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Commission on Equity, Inclusion and Racial Conciliation 3/16/2021
A
Not
yet
jeremy,
you
can
go
ahead
and
put
us
on
youtube.
B
We're
up
and
running,
I
know
the
mayor
is
going
to
join
us
so
when
he
comes
on
it,
I
certainly
want
him
to
to
say
a
few
words
to
get
us
started,
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
our
march
16th
special
commission
on
equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation
meeting
started.
B
I
do
know
our
minutes
were
deferred
right
for
the
february
25th
to
2021..
Certainly
don't
need
to
go
into
the
group
norms
and
agreements,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
jump
into
it.
It's
my
understanding
crystal.
You
need
to
go
first,
correct
all
right.
So
the
floor
is
yours.
A
A
Of
course,
our
committee
members
include
melissa,
barrett
who's,
a
teacher
radia
baxter
who
works
with
the
sheriff's
department,
mr
elise
davis
mcfarland,
who
is
a
part
of
kgm
chris
johnson
who
works
with
the
river
dogs
audrey
lane,
who
does
education
consulting
and
a
founder
of
e3
vgor,
a
student
and
myself,
I'm
our
city
staff,
we're
supported
by
eduardo
curry,
mindy,
sturm
and
jennifer
gorham,
as
mentioned
in
prior
meetings.
A
Although
our
city
staff
serves
as
support
to
us,
we
also
include
them
in
all
of
the
conversations
and
suggestions
that
we
have
outlined,
as
I've
mentioned
in
prior
meetings.
The
way
that
we
decided
to
go
about
streamlining
our
information
is
to
focus
on
the
kellogg
logic
model
so
that
we
can
identify
inputs
and
resources
figure
out
how
these
inputs
and
resources
can
feed
into
strategic
outcomes
and
measurements.
A
The
four
areas
of
focus
that
we
focused
on
was
culturally
sustaining
curriculums,
which
of
course
goes
beyond
culturally
relevant
curriculums
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
Further
in
our
presentation,
family
and
community
engagement,
reducing
school
suspension
rates
and
anti-racism
and
equity
trainings.
A
So
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
did
was
identify
different
groups
and
organizations
that
have
done
or
focus
on
different
areas
of
work
within
the
four
foci
that
we
had
selected
within
those
local
inputs
and
resources
include,
of
course,
charleston
county
school
district,
charleston,
county
council,
the
citadel
college
of
charleston,
trident
technical
college,
the
avery
institute,
low
country,
youth
services,
city
of
charleston,
recreation,
department,
charleston
area,
justice,
ministry,
father,
the
father,
charleston,
hope,
kids
on
point
wings
for
kids,
carolina,
youth
development,
center,
e3,
social
justice,
racial
equity,
collaborative
and
I
would
stop
reading.
A
But
because
I've
already
started.
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
include
everyone
who
we
have
on
our
list.
E3
social
justice,
racial
equity,
collaborative
sc
mentors
be
a
mentor
big
brothers,
big
sisters,
halos
low
country,
orphan
relief,
r3
laundry
matters,
enough
pie,
green
heart,
charleston,
county
library,
black
voters,
matter,
south
carolina,
education,
association,
low
country,
black
parent
association,
a
philip
randolph
institute
of
greater
charleston
national
council
of
negro
women,
bethune
leonard
section,
local
fraternities
and
sororities
local,
faith-based
organizations,
community
solutions,
transformative
teaching,
collective
mayor's
office
for
children,
youth
and
families,
jack
and
jill
of
america.
A
In
charleston,
national
action
network
ymca,
ywca
girl,
scouts
of
america.
We
are
family
and
2020
athletes
and
that
list
pretty
much.
It's
not
exclusive,
but
those
are
the
groups
that
we
identified
amongst
our
collective
calls
and
individual
sub
calls.
A
So
as
far
as
our
recommendations,
we
had
a
few
I'll.
Just
read
through
those
and
then
also
connect
them
to
the
areas
of
focus
that
they
align
with
the
first
one
recommendation
is
for
the
city
of
charleston
to
take
a
step
back
and
revisit
the
process
of
incorporating
the
special
commission
for
phase
one
we
had
educate
in
doing
the
groundwork,
which
included
commissioner
training
in
the
area
of
rei.
A
A
few
meetings
back.
The
next
recommendation
that
we
had
was
to
amend
the
current
ordinance
regarding
the
special
commission
on
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
Two
one
extend
the
time
for
an
action
plan
number
two
require
racial
equity,
training
of
all
commission
members
and
city
council
members.
Three
require
an
equity
audit
for
all
divisions
within
the
city
of
charleston
and
four.
Have
the
special
commission
on
equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation
remain
a
standing
commission
for
the
city
of
charleston.
A
A
The
next
recommendation
is
to
provide
additional
mental
health
support
for
students
through
community
programming.
A
few
of
the
things
that
we
have
listed
is
the
charleston
dorchester
mental
health
center
with
telemedicine
charleston
center,
musc
and
roper.
I
have
that,
in
parentheses
with
drug
and
alcohol
abuse
the
star
program
with
musc
and
then
also
I'm
figuring
out
a
way
to
support
additional
mental
health
counselors
within
schools.
A
The
next
recommendation
that
we
had
was
developing
in
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
the
charleston
county
school
district,
which
includes,
of
course,
nine
areas
of
focus.
A
A
Number
six
particip
participate
in
restorative
practice,
training
to
be
implemented
in
all
city
of
charleston
programming;
number;
seven,
full
implementation
of
restorative
practices
in
charleston,
county
schools,
number
eight
establish
and
support
community
schools
throughout
charleston
to
better
provide
wrap-around
services
that
incorporate
equitable
practices
and
number
nine
work
collaboratively
to
develop
outcomes.
Measures
for
assessing
the
impact.
A
A
Under
that
bullet,
we
had
utilizing
the
gear
survey,
results
to
develop
measurement
tools
for
groups
and
individuals
who
take
part
in
rei
and
then
number
two
focus
on
organizational
attitudinal
changes
that
moves
towards
systemic
change
and
the
reason
that
we
had
those
two
bullets
is
because
we
often
take
part
in
trainings,
and
we
also
do
a
lot
of
webinars.
A
However,
collectively
we
don't
do
a
really
good
job
of
taking
what
we've
learned
and
measuring
the
impact
on
a
continuous
basis
and
what
needs
to
be
changed
or
implemented.
So
that's
one
of
the
main
reasons
why
we
have
that
listed
as
a
recommendation.
A
The
next
recommendation
was
to
implement
listening
sessions,
and
this,
of
course,
is
something
that
was
recommended
under
phase
two,
our
initial,
which
was
our
first
recommendation
to
better
understand
the
youth
and
educational
landscape
in
charleston.
A
The
proposed
idea
was
to
have
youth
listening
sessions,
family
listening
sessions
and
then
also
overall
community
organization
sessions,
and
we
were
made
aware
that
that
tri-county
cradle
to
careers
actually
already
engulfed
in
doing
community
listening
sessions
and
perhaps
partnering
with
them,
would
be
a
good
idea
so
that
it's
you
know
we're
not
working
in
silos
as
it
pertains
to
gathering
the
information
that
we
need.
A
A
This
would
include
increased
partnerships
with
black
and
brown-led
organizations,
partnerships
with
ccsd
with
faith-based
organizations
and,
of
course,
with
cdf
freedom,
schools
that
already
has
a
family
and
community
engagement
component
within
the
entire
curriculum.
So
that
would
be
a
plus
the
curriculum
that
they
utilize
includes
culturally
relevant
curriculum.
A
I
don't
most
of
you
probably
don't
know,
but
I
started
doing
work
with
children's
defense
fund
back
in
2004
and
while
it
was
not
only
life
changing
for
me,
I
saw
the
the
longevity
and
the
impact
it
had
on
the
students
that
I
worked
with
in
the
community
and
not
only
with
their
own
academics
and
grades,
but
overall
self-esteem
and
understanding
of
self.
A
And,
of
course,
when
you
have
an
understanding
of
self,
your
statistics
show
that
you're
you're
you're
more
than
likely
to
do
better
overall,
the
next
recommendation-
and
I
only
have
one
more
after
this-
so
you
guys
are
lucky
and
mou
with
tri-county
cradles
to
career,
to
collect
data
and
track
progress
towards
racial
equity,
provide
training
to
parents
and
community
members
about
the
achievement
gap,
assist
in
facilitating
listening
sessions
and
data
collection,
to
inform
best
practices
and
needs
of
our
constituents,
provide
support
to
the
city
of
charleston
commission
on
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
A
You
know
provide
support
to
the
city
of
charleston
equity
inclusion,
racial
conciliation
manager
amber,
I
could
have
just
said,
amber
in
the
implementation
of
recommendations
related
to
youth
and
education
and
then
the
last
recommendation
that
we
had
is,
of
course
to
ensure
that
all
city
of
charleston
offices
and
departments
implement
an
equity
plan
within
their
policies,
procedures
and
framework.
A
Now
I
know
I've
said
a
mouthful,
so
I
will
add
this
document,
which
most
of
you
already
have
in
the
chat
as
well,
just
in
case
you're,
a
visual
learner
and
not
auditory,
and
that's
all.
I
have
any
questions.
C
D
Yeah
great
report,
however,
my
question
is:
have
you
come
up
with
any
recommendations
that
would
dismantle
a
structure
that
has
systemically
discriminated
against
our
children
for
for
tons
of
years
I
mean,
and
when
I
I
mean
structural
changes
to.
A
Right,
I
feel
you
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
had
to
learn
and
remember
like
with
this
work,
because
I
want
things
to
change
like
two
years
ago,
three
years
ago,
38
years
ago,
but
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
had
the
initial
recommendation.
The
way
we
stepped
into
our
subgroup
as
a
percentage
of
youth
in
education,
we're
all
coming
from
different
aspects
of
working
with
youth
in
education.
A
So
when
it
comes
to
that
it
it's,
it
can
be
very
specific
or
very
broad,
and
the
only
way
to
figure
out
exactly
what
we
want
to
pinpoint
as
a
city
is
to
take
a
step
back.
Do
the
research
actually
talk
to
the
individuals
who
it's
in
not
only
who's,
making
the
decisions,
but
also
the
individuals
who
it's
impacting
so
that
we
can
figure
out
what
the
best
recommendations
are.
So
all
of
the
recommendations
that
we
have
listed
would
feed
into
that.
D
A
D
And
I'll
tell
you
I'm
talking
and
I'm
talking
basic
things
like
the
physical
plant
has
an
unbelievable
effect
on
learning,
creating
the
kind
of
environment
that
is
conducive.
I'm
talking
to
the
choir.
I
know
crystal
I'm
sorry.
D
A
Well
I'll
tell
you
this,
and
this
has
been
an
ongoing
conversation
with
not
only
our
subcommittee
but
with
other
individuals
within
the
commission.
One
of
the
things
that
we
that
I
was
very
surprised
by
returning
to
charleston
in
2016
is
learning
that
you
all
had
cdf
freedom
schools
for
a
couple
of
years
and
no
longer
had
them
or
their.
A
I
don't
know
what
the
situ
I
know
there
was
a
conversation
about
there,
not
being
additional
funding
or
what
whatever,
but
knowing
the
impact
that
that
program
has
on
racial
equity,
empowerment,
family
engagement,
suspension
rates
and
overall
education,
progress
for
black
and
brown
children.
To
me
that
I
mean
to
me
it's
a
no-brainer,
because
I
know
how
it
works
not
only
in
local
areas
but
nationally.
A
So
that's
why
we
had
that
listed
as
one
of
our
recommendations
and
the
other
thing
that
I
do
want
to
share.
Is
I
mean
just
listening
to
what
you
were
saying:
councilman
gregory,
I
think,
back
to
septema
clark
when
she
had
her
citizenship.
A
Schools
on
the
islands
and
one
of
one
of
the
reasons
that
was
so
impactful
and
caught
traction
and
ended
up
spreading
across
other
areas
of
the
south
is
because
she
spoke
to
the
people
to
figure
out
what
it
is
that
they
needed
and
figure
out
what
it
is
that
they
knew
in
order
to
best
help
and
support
them
right
now,
because
we're
all
you
know
either
professionals
or
have
worked
in
the
educational
realm.
A
A
One
of
the
other
things
that
I
wanted
to
also
stress
is
making
sure
that,
with
this
special
commission
work,
it's
not
just
a
special
commission
to
put
together
recommendations,
but
also
a
commission
that
is
a
space
where
these
initiatives
or
recommendations
are
held
accountable
because
a
lot
of
times
we'll
say
things
and
incorporate
things
and
suggest
things
that
sound
good
and
look
good
for
the
moment.
But
don't
want
to
do
the
long-haul
work
that
it
takes
to
make
sure
it's
successful.
E
B
And
so
so
I
I
think
for
me
as
a
district
employee,
you
know
one
of
the
questions.
I
ask
crystal
all
the
time
and
I
think
we
need
to
differentiate
between
programs
and
systems.
B
I
personally
would
like
to
see
some
recommendations.
Push
the
status
quo,
a
little
bit
more
in
terms
of
not.
B
About,
let's
think
about
alternatives,
to
offering
high
quality
education
downtown
to
to
parents
downtown.
I
think
the
data
is
out
there
to
dudley's
point
that
it
has
been
a
year
year
after
year,
achievement
gap.
That's
been
getting
worse
opportunity
app,
that's
been
getting
worse,
so
I
think
that
that
is
out
there.
All
I'm
asking
is,
as
a
you
know,
co-chair
is.
I
would
like
to
see
some
some
recommendations
that,
quite
frankly,
get
some
of
the
charleston
county
school
board
members
attention.
A
So
I
had
a
good
good
point.
I
guess
my
question
to
you
is
of
the
recommendations
that
I
shared
I'm
trying
to
figure
out,
which
ones
already
fall
within
the
system.
That's
already
in
place,
because
I
mean
when
you
when
you
mention
that
I
was
puzzled
because
in
mentioning
community
schools,
that
is
not
something
that
is
implemented
because
you
know
I
work
with
charleston
county
school
district
as
well
as
far
as
freedom
schools.
That
curriculum
is
totally
out
of
the
box.
A
It's
totally
different
from
what
they
have
now
when
visiting
in
different
classrooms
and
speaking
to
different
administrators
and
teachers
who
are
trying
to
meet
certain
benchmarks.
A
The
entire
curriculum
itself
do,
I
feel,
needs
to
be
uprooted
and
redone.
Yes,
however,
we
had
our
commission
group
had
to
switch
our
focus
from
that,
because
this
is
not
a
special
commission
under
charleston
county
school
district.
It's
a
special
commission
under
the
city
so
as
it
pertains
to
the
city
and
working
in
collaboration
with
ccsd.
A
Yes,
the
mou
can
go
beyond
that
spectrum,
but
at
the
same
time
you
have.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
have
people
not
only
on
the
board
but
who
are
making
decisions
for
charleston
county
school
district
who
are
ready
to
think
outside
of
the
box,
and
does
that
mean
that
some
changes
need
to
be
made
at
the
leadership
level?
Oh
yeah,
I
I
do
wholeheartedly
believe
so,
but
at
the
same
time
it.
A
What
happens
is
we
know
that?
But
we
have
parents
and
families
who
are
intimidated
by
the
current
system
as
it
stands.
So
what
one
of
what
that's?
Why
that
is
so
heavily
within
our
recommendations,
hearing
from
the
people
who
are
impacted
the
most
because
that's
not
happening,
we
always
hear
that
they
get.
You
know,
there's
feedback
from
surveys,
there's
feedback
from
this,
but
it's
not
the
least
of
them
that
we're
getting
the
feedback
from.
F
A
F
Yes,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
putting
in
space
to
actually
learn.
I
think
so
often
we're
making
decisions
and
we're
not
looking
at
the
data,
we're
not
figuring
out
the
stats,
and
it's
so
often
that
when
you
hear
those
startling
stats
and
facts,
it
empowers
you
to
do
something
different.
So
thank
you
for
outlining
that.
F
I
agree
with
councilman
dudley
that,
although,
when
we
go
back
to
do
our
final
drafts,
I
would
like
to
see
those
concrete
steps
of
what
an
ideal
school
district,
our
ideal
city
and
school
relationship
would
look
like,
because
I
don't
want
us
to
just
stop
on
the
education
right
where
we're
just
having
conversations
or
we
get
into
analysis
paralysis
where
we're
just
looking
at
the
data
but
no
one's
moving.
But
I
do
appreciate
that
you
guys
thought
about
presenting
those
thoughts
and
facts
to
the
people,
because
we
don't
hear
them.
F
We
live
them,
but
we
do
not
hear
them
and
we
often
need
to
know
and
be
validated
to
know
that
those
experiences
are
real
and
they
show
up
in
numbers
and
then
the
second
thing
I
may
have
missed
it.
But
I
did
some
work
with
richland
county
school
district
2
and
they
have
started
talking
about
how
they
can
incorporate
edi
training
from
k-12.
F
So
what
could
that
look
like
in
charleston?
What
does
it
look
like
to
start
teaching
our
kindergarteners
about
the
same
types
of
constructs
that
we're
trying
now
to
teach
adults?
We
know
that
children
are
sponges
right,
and
so
we
start
in
kindergarten,
then,
hopefully,
by
the
time
they
become
30
year
old
adults
that
are
leading
our
city,
we're
on
2.0,
hopefully
4.0.
But
you
know
2.0
at
least,
but
starting
young,
hopefully
will
start
to
change,
not
only
our
schools
but
our
communities
and
our
families
and
our
lives
for
the
greater
good.
A
Thank
you
kim
mr
harris.
G
Thank
you
crystal.
Thank
you
for
your
your
work
in
the
committee's
report.
As
a
number
of
you
know,
in
2019
I
was
involved
with
the
actual
2018
and
2019.
I
was
involved
with
the
charleston
freedom
school,
the
mayor's
office.
G
G
we
got
through
20,
18
and
19
and
ran
into
funding
challenges
as
well
as
school
facility
challenges,
and
everything
that
crystal
indicated
about
the
efficacy
of
the
program
at
multiple
levels
is
true.
It
being
infused
as
part
of
the
dna
of
the
charleston
school
system
could
be
transformative
and
in
a
way
that
addresses
the
question
that
councilwoman
gregory
raised.
G
In
addition,
a
systemic
issue
that
is
not
addressed
in
the
report
and
I'd
like
to
give
you
guys
a
little
bit
more
work
crystal
you.
Don't
really
you
tangentially
addressed
in
the
restorative
justice
aspect,
the
notion
of
the
school,
the
prison
pipeline,
but
specifically
I'd
like
you
to
take
a
look
at
the
police
department's
general
order,
40,
which
has
to
do
with
juveniles.
G
That
specifically
speaks
to
the
relationship
of
the
police,
how
they
deployed
and
the
reporting
related
to
youth
and
on
the
school
system,
and
that's
an
area
where
our
two
subcommittees
can
work
and
share
some
information.
I
think
councilman
that
could
be
some
low-hanging
fruit
in
the
in
the
area
of
systemic
attacking
systemic
basis
of
racism
in
the
system.
D
Can
can
I
just
just
you
know,
I
love
this
conversation
by
the
way,
I
think
I
think
it's
really
necessary
as
a
commission
to
have
this
kind
of
dialogue
and
not
just
on
education,
but
all
of
the
committees,
this
one,
this
one's
really
really
good
in
terms
of
data.
Okay,
I
think
the
data
is
already
there.
D
D
As
for
the
the
the
distinction
between
the
school
board
and
the
city
as
a
council
member
borders,
don't
count
because
the
children
and
the
parents
associated
with
those
schools
are
my
constituents
so
as
a
result
of
that.
Okay,
I
think
that
gives
me
the
responsibility
as
a
councilman,
regardless
of
the
institution,
to
be
forthright
with
constructive
criticism
and
to
hopefully
do
something
different
something
out
of
the
box.
A
I
have
a
quick
question
and
you,
those
with
doctoral
degrees,
can
probably
answer
better
than
I
could
when
it
comes
to.
I
know
matter
of
fact.
Our
first
second
and
third
meetings
focused
a
lot
on
the
avery
study,
because
we
reviewed
all
of
that
data
and
that
that
data
was
covering
was
that
2010
to
2015.
D
A
Okay,
I'm
wondering
because
it's
2021
and
we
we
have
a
lot
of
families
who
are
coming
out
of
or
still
dealing
with,
the
recent
pandemic
if
it
would
make
sense
to
collect
additional
data
because
things
have
shifted
and
changes,
especially
when
it
comes
to
learning
loss
after
the
children
being
out
so
long
last
year,
so
collecting
additional
data.
I
I
know
using
the
avery
institute
as
a
base
was
our
foundation
for
the
recommendations
that
we
implemented
but
collecting
additional
data.
I
don't
think
it.
It
ever
hurt
nobody,
and
especially
especially.
D
A
B
D
A
B
H
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
comment
as
crystal
great
report
and,
as
you
were
talking
and
dudley,
as
you
were
talking
how
much
the
overlap
here
is
and
that
a
child
in
school
who
lives
in
poverty
and
a
child
who
is
hungry
at
home
and
a
child
who
doesn't
have
internet
access.
H
H
How
is
their
morning
going
to
be
it
all
overlaps
and
all
the
different
issues
we
see
in
the
city
around
all
of
those
issues,
and
you
know,
I
think
that
we
talk
about
these
things,
but
there
are
different
boards
and
oversight
groups
that
control
it
and
unless
we're
calling
into
those
board
meetings
we're
addressing
some
of
those
issues,
they
don't
really
have
to
face
it.
So
I
don't
have
a
specific
answer.
H
I
just
really
feel
that
it
is
so
overlapping
and
that
it
does
involve
doing
some
things
that
make
people
uncomfortable
and
may
make
us
a
little
uncomfortable.
But
that's
all.
B
Thank
you,
tracy,
any
other
additional
questions
on
crystal's
report
and
then
mayor
we'll
after
the
next
report.
We
can
just
kind
of
touch
upon
the
discussion
we
had
today
just
about
next
steps,
so
we're
all
on
the
same
page.
I
know
we'll
have
questions
about
next
steps
and
the
final
reports
and
all
that
so
we'll
get
to
that
after
the
next
report.
That's
is
that,
okay,
with
your
mayor,
okay,
I'm
not
sure
amber
who's.
Who's
lead
enough.
F
B
F
All
right
well
crystal
did
such
a
good
job,
condensing
her
report.
I
will
try
to
do
the
same
so
hello,
guys
again,
kim
butler-willis
and
representing
the
health
disparities
and
environmental
justice
subcommittee.
F
The
purpose
of
our
committee,
just
to
remind
you
guys,
is
to
explore
issues
related
to
health
and
environmental
equity,
determine
which
issues
are
most
salient
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
to
identify
those
key
priorities
that
would
produce
the
greatest
impact
and,
lastly,
to
present
these
priorities
to
you
guys
for
evaluation
and
facilitation.
F
We
have
four
priorities
and
they
touch
on
four
major
groups:
social
determinants
of
health,
healthcare,
access,
covet
testing
and
vaccination
and
then,
lastly
flooding.
I
will
say
that
we
have
a
heavy
health
group.
We
do
have
some
environmental
justice
warriors
on
our
subcommittee,
but
please
know
that
we
do
have
a
heavy
health
group.
So
please
I
encourage
you
to
lean
into
the
environmental
knowledge
that
you
have
and
please
share
that
with
us
all
right.
F
I'm
sorry,
I
thought
I
heard
someone
okay,
so
our
rationale
behind
this
is
that
this
priority,
the
social
determinants
of
health,
allows
us
to
not
only
place
emphasis
on
the
individual,
but
the
entire
population
in
the
community
level,
because
we
know
that
when
we
can
improve
the
lifestyles
of
the
least
of
us
quote
unquote,
then
we
know
that
we
will
improve
lifestyle
and
quality
of
life
for
all
of
us.
F
So
these
are
some
things
that
we're
recommending,
based
on
the
2019-22
tri-county
health
improvement
plan
that
was
developed
by
healthy
tri-county,
which
is
a
collaborative
that
the
city
has
been
heavily
involved
in
first.
Things
first
is
to
mandate
a
health
and
equity,
not
health
and
equity,
but
health
and
equity
and
all
policies
approach,
not
just
for
the
city
departments,
because
I
know
that's
something
that
you
guys
are
already
tackling,
but
all
city-sponsored
programs.
F
We
also
want
to
encourage
healthy
eating
and
physical
activity
by
incorporating
some
obesity
prevention
tactics
like
sidewalks,
green
spaces,
even
senior
activity
areas
and
low
price
farmers
markets
in
the
city,
expansion
and
event
planning
efforts.
We
know
that
people
make
choices
based
on
the
choices
that
they
have,
and
so
we
want
to
provide
some
healthier
options
for
the
people
within
the
city.
F
I
will
tell
you,
as
a
leader
at
roper,
st
francis,
we
have
a
phenomenal
culture
of
collaboration
here
in
the
tri-county
and
one
that
we
will
continuously
need
support
from
senior
leadership
to
foster,
because
in
the
healthcare
space
alone
we
have
people
that
are
routinely
working
together,
but
we
need
that
continued
juice
and
fire
to
make
sure
that
we
can
continue
to
make
the
plans
that
we
have
work.
We
also
want
to
explore
the
synergy
with
dhec
and
the
department
of
health
and
human
services,
the
managed
care
with
goals
and
incentives.
F
So
these
health
insurance
agencies,
they're,
built
or
they've
started
to
incorporate,
are
considered
full
wellness
for
patients
and
they
have
programming
that
patients
can
use
case
managers
and
other
initiatives
that
really
encourage
full
wellness
and
healthy
eating.
How
are
we
promoting
that,
or
even
encouraging
that
from
the
health
care
neighbors
in
the
city
and
even
the
residents?
And
then?
Lastly,
under
that
initiative,
we
want
to
also
implement
the
office
of
minority
health's.
15,
national
standards
of
cultural,
culturally
and
linguistically
appropriate
services
are
class.
F
Is
what
you
may
often
hear
within
the
city
of
charleston
departments
and
promote
its
use
as
a
roadmap
for
improving
equity
among
organizations
that
are
serving
citizens
in
the
physical,
mental
and
socio-economic
health
ecosystem
in
which
we
live,
but
not
just
again
limited
to
the
traditional
partners
of
the
health
care
facilities
and
health
insurers
in
schools.
We
want
to
think
broader
than
that
of
our
non-traditional
partners,
mostly
those
business
partners
and
even
those
that
we
know
tend
to
hire
the
underserved
community.
I
made
up
an
acronym
this
week.
F
F
F
We
know
we
don't
even
have
a
dhec
clinic
on
the
peninsula
right
now
and
that's
a
shame
so
essentially,
uninsured
folks
are
folks
that
are
don't
have
access
to
health
care
outside
of
peninsula
are
stuck
with
fetter
and
I
shouldn't
say:
stop
because
federer's
been
doing
a
phenomenal
job
providing
care
and
they
have
been
blowing
it
out.
F
The
community
health
needs
assessment
that
was
conducted
by
healthy
tri-county
show
that
nearly
a
quarter
of
the
people
in
charleston
county
cited
work
schedules
or
lack
of
health
coverage
or
even
lack
of
income
as
barriers
that
are
preventing
them
from
routine
doctor
appointments,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
have
options
non-traditional
hours
in
order
to
make
sure
that
they
are
taking
care
of
that
very
critical
need.
So
four
action
items
that
we're
suggesting
is
to
recruit
more
subsidized
healthcare
providers
and
our
services
in
the
city
to
include
dhec
bring
them
back.
F
The
people
look
to
dhec
as
a
healthcare
as
a
healthcare
source,
it's
a
traditional
healthcare
source
and
we
need
to
have
them
back
on
the
peninsula
b.
We
also
want
to
offer
public
transportation
waivers
for
medical
and
social
support
appointments.
F
We
always
we're
we're
chronic
for
labeling
patients
as
non-compliant
in
the
healthcare
world,
but
have
we
considered
all
the
barriers
that
they're
confronting
in
order
to
make
those
essential
health
care
appointments?
F
And
I
can
answer
any
questions.
You
have
about
z
codes
after
I'm
done,
presenting
all
of
the
priorities.
The
third
of
the
fourth
priority
is
covet
testing
and
vaccination
right
on
the
nose.
We
are
in
the
thick
of
it
right
now
and
I
want
to
shout
out
fetter
again
because
they
have
been
doing
a
phenomenal
job
getting
to
those
rural
and
underserved
pockets.
F
But
we
know
that
there's
still
a
great
need,
in
fact
crystal,
and
I
were
talking
ahead
of
the
call,
we're
hosting
a
monks
corner
clinic
because
we
knew
that
75
of
the
population
that
65
and
older
amongst
corner
I
mean
in
berkeley
county
still
weren't
vaccinated.
Despite
all
of
these
efforts,
so
there's
still
a
lot
of
coordination
and
collaboration
that
needs
to
happen
to
make
sure
we're
getting
to
the
right
people.
F
So
first
things.
First,
we
want
to
increase
that
covert
prevention,
testing
and
vaccination.
Education,
education
leads
to
empowerment
and
when
people
feel
empowered,
they're
more
engaged
in
their
health
care.
We
talk
so
much
about
vaccine
hesitancy
among
african
americans,
but
have
we
stopped
to
consider
vaccine
hesitancy
among
our
white
folks?
White
folks
are
dying
too
from
covet,
and
we
know
that
conservative
white
folks
are
denying
the
vaccine.
F
We
will
not
reach
herd
immunity
if
we
are
not
considering
all
populations,
not
just
hyper,
focusing
on
black
and
brown
folks
when
it
comes
to
this
vaccine,
so
we
have
to
expand
our
reach
in
our
education
efforts.
Secondly,
we
want
to
host
and
post
simultaneous
testing
and
vaccination
locations
with
varying
hours
and
testing
options.
We
know
that
a
rapid
test
works
for
some.
F
Some
may
need
that
standard
test,
but
there
is
not
a
central
location,
unfortunately,
here
in
the
low
country,
where
you
can
go
to
one
site
and
learn
where
all
the
testing
and
vaccination
sites
are,
so
that
not
only
the
resident
can
determine
where
they
need
to
go
and
what
best
suits
their
life,
but
even
healthcare
providers.
How
do
we
best
coordinate
so
that
we're
not
being
duplicative
are
over
saturating
a
community
and
then
third,
we
want
to
offer
free-
or
at
least
subsidized
disinfected
cleaning
products,
toiletries
face,
masks
for
families
and
individuals
in
need.
F
I
know
that's
a
big
ass,
because
lysol
is
like
a
hot
commodity
right
now,
but
if
you
need
those
types
of
cleaning
supplies,
how
do
you
get
it
if
you
aren't
able
to
actually
purchase
it
on
your
own,
given
the
spike
in
prices?
So
how
do
we?
How
do
we
work
with
our
local
vendors
to
make
sure
that
that's
still
attainable
for
those
who
need
it
most
and
then
the
last
priority
we
had
is
flooding
and
that's
to
invest
in
strategies
that
mitigate
flooding,
prioritizing
strategies
that
address
racial
equity
and
environmental
justice?
F
Please
don't
go
hard
on
me
on
this
because
my
environmental
folks
are
not
on
the
line
right
now,
but
I
will
tell
you
they
are
passionate
about
it
and
there
are
some
valid
concerns
so
of
the
four
recommendations
we
want
to
provide
elevation
grants
in
low-income
neighborhoods.
We
want
to
create
open
spaces
that
can
function
as
water
storage
spaces.
F
We
want
to
continue
to
invest
in
drainage
projects
outlined
by
the
city,
providing
routine
updates
to
the
public.
I
think
that's
essential
again.
Getting
back
to
the
education
leads
to
empowerment
and
then,
lastly,
we
want
to
increase
marketing
and
promotion
of
existing
environmental
initiatives
like
your
adopt
the
drain
and
charleston
rainproof
program.
That's
already
existing
and
then
last,
but
certainly
not
least,
is
climate
change,
so
acknowledge
and
proclaim
climate
change.
F
As
a
public
health
crisis,
we
want
to
first
review
and
revise
the
charleston
climate
action
plan,
ensuring
that
recommendations
are
provided
with
consideration
of
race
and
so
and
social
economic
status.
We
want
to
negotiate
a
population
control
measures
with
the
city's
major
commercial
polluters
like
carnival
cruises.
B
B
You
are,
I
have
a
couple.
B
Cam
cam
is
that
all
right
call,
you
kim
absolutely
who
else
is
on
your
subcommittee.
You
said
you
had
some
environmental,
some
of
our
environmentalists,
yeah.
F
And
I
wish
I
had
the
full
name-
I
actually
put
it
in
the
chat,
because
I
don't
want
to
miss
anyone,
so
I
will
put
all
the
names
in
the
chat,
but
we
do
have
a
few
city,
folks,
city
officials,
our
city
workers
that
are
helping
us
to
build
this
plan
outside
of
paul
weeder's
who's,
our
city
of
charleston
health
guru.
We
also
have
let
me.
B
Pull
why
you
do
that
and
it
just
ring
it
rings
the
bell
for
me.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
to
to
the
mayor
and
amber
about
the
support
that
some
of
the
subcommittees
have
from
city
staff
dudley-
and
I
were
talking
about
this
earlier.
We
have
seen
a
maturation
and
a
lot
of
the
staff
members
embrace
the
work
that
we're
doing
talk
about
it
at
council
meetings.
B
F
So
also
from
the
city
we
have
katie
mccain
who's
been
helping
us
on
the
environmental
front,
marcus
mcdonald
who's,
a
strong
advocate
in
the
community.
I
believe
he's
from
downtown
who's,
very
passionate
about
environmental
justice
and
also
from
the
city
on
our
committee.
We
have
mike
wack,
and
this
committee
also
consists
of
ariana
kiels
who's,
a
member
of
our
who's,
a
teammate
of
par
and,
of
course,
I
said,
paul
weeders
and
then
samaj
fielding
who's.
Also,
a
community
member
and
dr
rivers
from
musc.
F
Isn't
this
name
chris
kim?
Oh
chris
welch?
Who
is
a
former
employee
for
an
insurance
company?
I
want
to
say
molina,
but
it's
not
molina
select
health.
I
want
to
say
I
want
to
say
yeah.
G
So
kimberly
fantastic
work
on
the
part
of
your
committee
thought-provoking
and
I
think
some
systemic
related
stuff.
Two
things
I
raised
one
in
the
area
of
mental
health.
There's
a
discussion
going
on
between
our
work
group
and
and
marcus
at
least
to
come
up
with
some
ideas
and
recommendations,
specifically
about
how
the
city's
first
responders
on
to
situations
are
not
necessarily
the
police
but
others,
and
how
we,
how
we
do
that.
G
That's
a
specific
area
that
overlaps
with
the
work
that
we're
doing
and
I'm
wondering
whether
or
not
there's
been
any
discussion
about
utilizing
crime
prevention
through
environment,
environmental
design
as
an
approach
to
making
the
city
safer
on
straight
away
through
all
communities,
for
example
the
rehabilitation
that's
being
done
in
the
public
housing
projects,
whether
or
not
the
design
that
is
being
used
is
anticipating
how
you
know
the
heights
of
the
hedges.
G
The
setback
and
those
kinds
of
things
are
important
in
terms
of
reducing
the
possibility
and
opportunity.
Prime,
so
I'm
just
wondering
whether
or
not
that's
part
of
the
discussion
that
you
guys
have
been
having.
F
It
was
not,
but
I
love
that
you
raised
that,
because
that
proves
a
great
point
of
the
intersectionality
that's
possible
between
these
subcommittees,
but
I
just
made
a
note
of
it
to
take
it
back
to
our
group
to
see
how
we,
what's
our
part
in
that
development
and
hopefully
that
we
can
build
some
bridges
with
the
other
subcommittee
who's.
Looking
at
just
that.
G
Yeah
and
tracy
and
tracy
in
terms
of
the
discussion
about
mobility,
the
the
the
low-lying
design
aspect.
Again,
it's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
incorporate
that
to
be
helpful
to
get
make
the
police
jobs
easier
and
perhaps
have
the
perception
of
lowering
over
the
perception
of
over
policing.
H
Up,
yes,
I
had
it.
I
stepped
away
for
just
a
minute
and
you
may
have
addressed
it
in
the
beginning,
but
I
was
wondering,
did
you
did
you
include
telehealth
telemedicine
in
your?
You
did
okay.
F
I
did
not
no
I'm
nodding
to
say
that
was
certainly
a
conversation
for
us,
but
we
we
weren't
sure
where
to
place
it
with
the
healthcare
access.
We
were
hoping
that
with
expanding
those
hours
and
creating
non-traditional
options
that
telehealth
would
be
included.
I
think
it
has
forever
changed
how
healthcare
looks
and
we're
hoping
that
some
of
the
some
of
the
changes
actually
become
sustainable,
but
we
should
explicitly
say
telehealth
to
make
sure
that
that's
incurred.
H
Yeah
I
mean
we
have
humanities,
foundation
has
partnered
with
medical
university
and
we
have
in
all
of
our
senior
properties
and
a
good.
A
good
majority
of
our
residents
are
of
color
so
and
low
income
and
the
nursing
schools
in
different
markets
participate
and
they
use
it
as
a
learning
model,
and
so
they
come
through
as
part
of
their
their
education.
H
F
You
for
that,
thank
you
for
that
and
crystal
just
mentioned
that
that's
something
that
they
can
include
it
so
again,
another
intersection
that
we
could
probably
leverage
in
order
to
see
some
real
change.
So
crystal
I'm
making
that
point
too
and
thank
you,
miss
doran
for.
E
That
so,
mr
chairman,
just
a
comment,
if
I
may-
and
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
in
my
office
where
I
pull
this,
I
keep
this
little
map
near
my
desk
at
the
office
because
it
seemed
so
powerful
to
me
kim-
and
I
know
you're
familiar
with
it-
I've
I've
kind
of
egged
d-heck
on
to
drill
down
and
make
it
a
little
more
accurate
per
smaller
areas,
and-
and
I
mean
we're
all
about
addressing
disparities
here
and
that's
why
we
separated
in
these
different
groups,
because
these
disparities
are
pervasive
right,
but
the
one
that
hit
me
like
a
ton
of
bricks
was
about
a
year
ago.
E
I
first
saw
this
map
that
shows
life
expectancy
in
different
parts
of
our
city,
and
I
know,
there's
the
old
expression.
You
know
different
sides
of
the
track
and
this
side
different
sides
of
the
river
on
the
on
the
charleston
peninsula
side,
the
upper
peninsula
and
lower
part
of
north
charleston,
the
life
expectancy
of
citizens.
There
is
about
66
years,
I'm
I'm
speed
66
this
year.
I
hope
I
live
a
little
longer.
E
You
know,
and
if
you
go
just
across
the
river
to
west
ashley,
to
those
neighborhoods,
of
course
over
on
the
charleston
side,
they're,
mostly
low
income,
mostly
african-american
and
across
the
river
and
they're,
mostly
white,
mostly
moderate
or
higher
income,
and
the
life
expectancy
is
81
years.
E
So,
just
literally
less
than
a
mile
away
across
the
ashley
river,
a
difference
of
15
years
in
life
expectancy,
I
mean
that's,
that's
getting
real
y'all,
I
mean
15
years
of
someone's
life
differential,
it.
It
just
seems
so
powerful
to
me
and
you
you
mentioned
up
front
life
expectancy.
But
and
maybe
it's
just
a
picture-
it
says
a
thousand
words,
but
but
but
I
find
that
to
be
very
powerful
and
a
motivating
story
to
to
help
get
us
all
addressing
this
health
and
wellness
and
equity
in
our
community.
F
Mayor,
thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
out
that
stat
and
and
now
we
know
that
covet
has
even
exasperated
that
and
added
an
additional
three-year
deficit
for
people
of
color
right
nationally,
so
we
are
really
struggling,
and
so
when
we
look
at
mandates
like
the
phase
1a
say
we're
going
to
vaccinate
people
that
are
75
and
older.
Well,
that
doesn't
consider
black
folks
because
we're
not
even
living
the
75.
F
But
yet
still
we
are
the
people
that
are
dying
disproportionately
of
covet.
So
that's
what
we're
talking
about
when
we
say
health
and
equity
in
all
policies
because
had
those
that
rolled
that
down
considered
the
life
expectancy
of
black
and
brown
folks,
I'm
sure
that
age
would
have
been
lower
and
we
wouldn't
have
been
prioritizing
only
those
long-term
care
facilities
where
we
know
those
are
70
white
or
those
health
care
workers
are
the
75
and
older
we
would
have
been.
F
D
Good
point:
a
question
for
you:
any
focus
on
the
homeless
population.
I
know
you
talked
about
the
uninsured
and
and
making
sure
that
dhak
is
re-established
here
and
access.
But
do
you
have
any
particular
focus
on
that
population
alone?.
F
We
did
not
explicitly
lay
out
a
plan
for
the
homeless
folks,
lumping
them
again
under
the
uninsured
folks.
We
know
that
180
places
really
been
a
major
driver
for
our
aid
and
assistance
with
homeless
folks,
but
maybe
it's
worth
adding
in
parentheses,
to
really
call
out
these
high-need
high-priority
groups,
because
we
know
on
the
palestine
on
the
peninsula
that
homelessness
is
a
chronic
and
very
serious
issue.
F
Even
when
we
I
keep
going
back
to
covet
y'all,
I'm
sorry
because
I'm
in
covet
world,
but
even
when
we
consider
vaccinated
our
homeless
folks,
it's
two
doses
before
johnson
and
johnson.
It
was
two
doses.
You
know
how
hard
it
is
to
find
a
homeless
person
the
second
time
around,
especially
if
they
haven't
deemed
a
place
to
be
their
permanent
home,
their
permanent
home.
You
know
what
I
mean
so
again,
considering
equity
in
all
spaces
and
all
rollouts.
F
B
But
I
really
wanted
to
close
out
with
the
mayor
to
just
talk
briefly
about
our
schedule
kind
of
what
to
do
on
our
plates
over
the
next
month
or
so,
and
then
also
reaffirm
the
the
commitment
about
the
work
that
we
have
ahead
of
us.
So
I'm
going
to
let
mayor
just
kind
of
take
it
over
from
here.
E
Well
well,
thank
you,
councilmember,
and
I
met
with
council
members,
sacrament
and
gregory
today
to
kind
of
discuss
our
our
path
forward
a
bit
first.
So
I
want
to
thank
everybody
on
the
commission
here
for
the
awesome
work
you've
been
doing.
I
I
admit
I
didn't
attend
a
whole
lot
of
the
early
meetings,
but
I've
I've
attended
the
last
three
while
the
presentations
have
been
made
and
I've
been
impressed
and
uplifted
and
inspired
for
us
all
to
continue
this
work
together.
E
Now
it's
interesting
that
crystal
had
a
number
of
recommendations
on
her
list
tonight
about
the
future
of
of
this
commission
and
what
that
should
look
like,
and
I
I
do
want
to
remind
everybody-
that
the
origin
original
charge
from
city
council
for
our
commission
was
simply
to
gather
and
make
recommendations
back
to
council.
E
Of
course,
one
of
those
recommendations
can
be.
What
are
we
going
to
do
as
a
commission
going
forward?
Will
it
continue
to
exist
and
all
like
that,
so
that
that
very
apropos
crystal
that
you
included
those
tonight
as
as
part
of
of
your
report,
both
reports
tonight
were
terrific,
so
I
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
think
about
the
transformation
of
this
commission
from
one
that
just
is
done
solid
work,
research
and
more
all
that
needs
to
be
done
and
and
many
sub
areas.
E
Many
topics,
I'm
sure,
and
that
can
be
part
of
the
work
going
forward.
But
to
transform
us
from
making
recommendations
go
ahead
and
get
that
done.
Make
those
recommendations
but
transform
us
to
to
a
group,
that's
action-order,
oriented
and
intentional
about
steps
that
need
to
be
taken
and
accountability.
E
That
should
be
added
to
our
community
to
see
that
real
change
occurs
over
time,
and
so
I
would
like
to
I
know:
there's
been
a
good
bit
of
discussion
about
how
formal
the
reports
need
to
be
and
format
and
whether
we
ought
to
hire
somebody
in
to
to
you
know,
make
it
look
nice
and
complete
and
all
like
that
with
y'alls,
with
all
due
respect,
I'm
ready
for
us
to
bring
this
on
forward
to
council
in
terms
of
our
recommendations.
E
One
though
important
recommendation
was
on
on
crystal's
list
tonight,
as
I
mentioned,
and
that's
to
empower
this
commission
to
continue
to
exist
and
to
move
forward,
transforming
its
role
to
be
one
of
more
implementation
and
action
and
accountability.
E
So,
and
I
I
know
it
would
be
nice
I
talked
to
amber
about
you-
know,
writing
up.
You
know
a
good
summary
of
our
work,
how
many
meetings
we
had,
what
our
purpose
was
and
all
like
that,
but
go
ahead
and
get
our
reports
on
in
and-
and
I
know,
we've
moved
the
goal
posts
a
few
times,
but
I
really
would
like
for
us
to
get
that
done
by
the
end
of
april
by
april.
E
Two
council
meetings
in
april
it'd
be
nice,
perhaps
to
do
it
on
april
20th,
but
the
other
thing
that
I
would
consider
after
consulting
with
my
council
members,
is
maybe
we
have
a
separate
workshop
meeting.
Sometimes
we
do
that
when
we
focus
on
one
issue,
sometimes
when
we
have
city
council
meetings,
you
know
and
there's
20
different
things
to
talk
about,
so
it
might
be
better
for
us
to
schedule
a
special
meeting
of
council
to
make
this
presentation
to
talk
about
the
recommendations
going
forward.
E
I
would
have
each
of
you
come
forward
and
be
a
part
of
that
meeting
to
share
with
the
entire
council
and
and
that
will
set
the
stage,
I
believe
for
us
to
transform
our
work
and
to
continue
our
work
kind
of
on
a
on
a
new
pathway
that
will
get
some
things
done
and
the
other
thing
that
I
I
get
anxious
about
getting
going.
You
know
when
I
hear
good
ideas
and
and
and
we're
not
pausing
by
the
way.
E
If
we
see
an
opportunity
like
we,
we
talked
to
council
just
the
other
day
about
a
minority
business
incubator.
We
have
opportunity
coming
up
with
the
construction
of
a
new
building
on
lee
street.
We've
talked
to
the
developer
that
we're
partnering
with
us
with
the
city,
and
we
we
can
take
the
ground
floor
of
that
building,
about
8
000
square
feet
and
go
ahead
and
we're
we're
moving
forward
to
make
plans
to
have
a
minority
business
incubator.
That
was
one
of
the
recommendations
of
this
commission.
E
So
you
know,
I'm
I'm
ready
to
start
trying
to
make
those
things
happen
as
we
as
as
they
become
available
and
as
we're
intentional
about
doing
these
things.
So
anyway,
I've
probably
talked
long
enough,
but
that's
where
I
would
like
to
see
us
move
to
wrap
up
the
recommendations
and
then
move
forward
with
a
continuance
of
our
fine
work
and
and.
E
That
that
could
involve
you
know.
Looking
at
the
number
of
members
on
our
commission,
maybe
changing
the
structure
a
little
bit
setting
term
limits,
I
mean
we
got
together
with
just
that.
E
One
purpose
to
make
the
recommendations
and
until
council
acts
that
we're
we're
out
of
work
so
to
speak
once
the
recommendations
are
made,
so
we
will
need
to
put
a
little
thought
into
what
the
structure
of
this
would
be
going
forward,
but
that's
that's
my
hope
and
intent,
and
I
think
it
is
of
our
co-chairs
as
well,
and
I
I
hope
that
resonates
with
all
of
you
as
well.
Thanks.
E
E
G
G
Yes,
the
I
think
the
concern
I
have
mayor
is
that
if
we
put
forward
recommendations
to
for
action
for
by
the
council-
but
we
don't
have
a
clear
understanding
of
how
we
want
the
commission
to
be
structured
going
forward-
how
we
haven't
had
the
opportunity
for
the
cross
fertilization
between
the
various
work
groups-
which
I
think
you
know
whether
we
talk
about
the
social
determinants
of
health
or
other
things,
there's
some
integration,
that's
missing
and,
quite
frankly,
I
thought
the
idea
of
having
a
expert
who
has
done
or
watched
these
kind
of
processes
go
forward
in
terms
of
best
practices,
taking
a
look
at
where
we
are
and
making
some
recommendations
about
how
to
make
the
recommendations
and
what
we
should
look
like
going
forward
would
be
beneficial
to
us
and
rather
than
us,
you
know
flying
flying
blind.
G
So
to
speak
and
with
all
due
respect
to
you
and
the
true
co-chairs.
This
is
not.
This
work
is
not
stuff
that
you
guys
do
as
your
your
day
job
and
there
are
people
who
are
there's
a
whole
industry
evolving
around
ddei,
and
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
do
this
and
do
this
right
and
I'm
just
not
certain
that
putting
forward
the
recommendations
without
having
kind
of
a
game
plan
that
kind
of
harmonizes
stuff
and
I'm
not
talking
about.
I
never
thought
we
were
talking
about.
G
Having
somebody
write
a
pretty
report,
it
was
a
question
of
how
we
processed
and
integrated
the
information
and
move
forward.
So
I'm
a
little
bit
uncomfortable
with
going
forward.
We
could
have
a
report
with
great
recommendations.
The
council
could
be
taking
taking
action,
but
we
really
not
have
a
framework
to
sell
to
the
broader
community
in
terms
of
how
they
can
become
involved
and
how
we
move
forward.
So
I'm
just
a
little
bit
uncomfortable
with
with
the
time
take.
E
All
right:
well,
you
know
we
started
with
a
90-day
timetable
and
we
started
last
summer.
So
I
I
think,
there's
been
apple
ample
opportunity
to
to
to
make
those
recommendations.
If
you,
if
you
have
some
to
add
to
what
we
got
here,
I
I
mean
I
I
hear
you
jerome
I'd,
certainly
hear
you
loud
and
clear,
but
at
some
point
we
got
to
move
on
and
how
long
you
know,
I
I'm
ready
to
get
some
things
going.
E
I
guess
maybe
I'm
impatient
sometimes,
but
you
know
sometimes
that's
a
good
thing.
Sometimes
it's
not.
You
can
swing
both
ways.
I
mean
if,
if
there's
some
one
that
can
give
us
some
advice
on
how
the
commission
should
be
structured
by
the
time
we
present
to
council,
I'm
all
for
it,
bring
it
on
what
what.
E
F
F
So
it
would
be
nice,
even
if
we
don't
hire
the
consultant
to
at
least
get
together
as
subcommittee
leaders
in
a
90-minute
meeting
to
to
kind
of
think
through
what
this
looks,
like
maybe
facilitated
by
amber,
to
bring
all
of
our
recommendations,
see
where
we
parallel
see
where
we,
where
there's
where
we're
intersecting,
so
that
we
can
synthesize
and
present
one
solid
document
to
the
council,
so
that
we
know
that
when
it's
time
to
operationalize
or
if
we
do
have
the
opportunity
to
hire
a
professional
who's.
F
A
I
agree
and
then
follow
up
to
what
ken
was
saying.
I
was
actually
texting
or
typing
the
exact
same
thing.
She
said
perhaps
amber
works
with
the
committee
chairs
to
actually
build
out
or
figure
out
what
that
framework
should
look
like.
I
think
that
would
probably
be
the
best
thing
to
do.
E
And
jerome,
let
me
just
reply
that
that
can
be
a
recommendation.
I
mean
we,
we
can't
spend
money
until
council
approves
it.
We
did
set
up
a
budget
for
this
year
that
we
have
some
flexibility
with.
I
guess
and-
and
we
were
thinking
about
using
those
funds
but
to
start
doing
things
and
spending
money.
We
need
councils
approval
on
those.
E
Things-
and
so
you
know-
maybe
one
of
the
top
recommendations
is
the
the
format
of
the
commission
hiring
someone
to
help
the
commission.
E
Do
this
what
you
just
said,
but
you
know
it
would
help
us
to
go
ahead
and
get
them
on
board
and
get
them
advised
where
we're
going
with
all
this
and
and
and
the
kinds
of
recommendations
we're
making.
So
again,
maybe
I'm
in
being
a
little
impatient,
but
I
I
I
want
to
I
want
to
do
this
thoughtfully.
I
I
hear
you,
but
but
let's,
let's
figure
this
out,
so
we
can
go
ahead
and
and
get
on
to
the
next
step.
H
I
know
we're
short
on
time,
so
I'll
be
brief,
but
I
think
that
it
would
be
helpful
as
well
to
go
through
our
recommendations
and
make
sure
that
the
commission
as
a
whole
is
pleased
with
what
we're
taking
forward
like.
I
know
we
had
seven
or
eight
things
that
the
commission
may
not
agree
with
everything
that
we're
taking
forward.
H
So
I
think
working
with
amber
to
sort
of
look
at
some
of
those
and
then
some
of
the
items
that
we
had
on
our
recommendations
have
already
been
addressed
by
like
the
fee
and
lou
and
the
low
line,
and
some
of
those
things
do
we
keep
those
on
there
or
do
we
take
those
off,
and
I
I'm
a
little.
I
don't
know
if
some
of
those
items
had
already
been.
B
E
Just
because
that's
that's
a
good
thing
to
have
a
box
that
gee
we're
already
working
on
this,
you
know
or
yeah
some
of
it
you've
inspired
us
to
action
already.
As
I
mentioned.
G
So
someone
in
in
the
context
of
the
april,
30th
kind
of
is
that
for
us
to
have
completed
our
exchange
and
conversation
amongst
us
to
have
a
document
that
would
be
presented
in
may
or
is
it
between
now
and
april
30th
for
us
to
have
these
conversations
complete
the
writing
and
and
get
the
report
out.
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
your
time.
E
Yeah
well
originally,
I
was
going
to
say
a
drop
dead
by
the
first
meeting
of
council
in
may,
which
would
be
may
11th.
That's
that's.
Two
months
come
on
that's
almost
two
months.
E
G
I'll
defer
to
my
my
colleagues,
you
know:
we've
got
you
know,
volunteers,
you
know
who
are
working
to
to
generate
their
work.
So
far.
If
I
had
a
staff
that
was
working
full-time,
I
said
that's
cool.
We
could
do
that
right,
I'm
just
not
sure
we
could
set
that
as
a
as
it's
a
reasonable
time
frame
understanding
we
need
to
show
productivity.
G
I
just
don't
know
whether
from
a
practical
can
get
it
done
pencil.
The
paper
and
presentation,
even
with
amber
support
and,
however
much
support
from
you
know
the
the
city
staff
we
could.
We
can
get
that.
That's
all
and
I
defer
to
my
other
colleagues
in
terms
of
their
comfort
level.
H
C
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
good
evening.
Everybody
I'm
sitting
in
for
alvin
from
the
economic
empowerment
committee
in
in
subcommittee.
So
my
question
is:
is
the
intent
to
produce
a
road
map
of
sort?
Mr
mayor,
be
when
we
go
to
city
council,
because
two
words
that
come
to
mind
as
I'm
just
taking
in
the
dialogue
that
just
took
place,
is
strategy
and
prioritization,
and
so,
if
they're,
is
that
what
we're
trying
to
go
trying
to
accomplish
is
to
really
get
a
strategy
around.
C
What
are
the
priorities
like
because
this
work
is
going
to
span
years?
We
all
know
that
right.
So
this
isn't
something
that's
going
to
happen
overnight,
and
so,
if
it
is
a
longer
term
strategy,
then
I
think
to
present
this
work
in
a
in
a
time
frame
right.
So
in
the
first
in
the
one
to
three
years,
three
to
five
five,
seven,
whatever
works
for
the
city
is
really
important
so
that
when
we
go
to
the
council
as
you're
saying
on
may
the
11th
they
at
least
have
an
idea
of
what's
coming
first.
C
E
E
So
again,
it's
okay!
In
my
view
that
gee
one
of
the
recommendations
is
that
we,
you
know
here,
are
a
broad
list
of
recommendations
that
we've
come
up
with,
but
they're
not
prioritized
yet
maybe
in
the
next
first
three
months
of
the
commission's
work
is
to
prioritize.
You
know
what
what
whether
it's
a!
What
is
a
b?
What
is
a
c?
E
Well,
you
know,
and
and
and
and
continue
that
planning
to
get
you
to
full
implementation,
but
you
know
identify
in
the
first
three
months
what
what
of
all
these
things
are
really
easy
for
us
to
do
and
can
knock
out
the
way
or
take
10
years
to
get
done
or
they're
so
systemic.
You
know
it's
just
an
ongoing
process
forever
and
ever
right.
So
that
can
be
part
of
the
recommendations
is
that
we
still
need
to
refine.
E
You
know
the
strategies
if
you
will
and
that
in
the
prioritization
yeah
it
will
take
time.
There's
that's
an
excellent
observation.
We
we
we'd
would
suffocate.
Probably
if
we
thought
oh
we're
going
to
get
all
this
done
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I
mean
that's
not
happening.
You
know
that
we
know
that.
D
E
Yeah,
with
all
due
respect,
I
mean
I,
I
know
councilmember
gregory,
you're
and
I've.
I've
listened
to
you,
I
think,
quite
well
over
the
last
few
years
about
driving
things
to
committee,
but
if
we
take
it
to
the
council
as
a
whole,
I
I
think
we
we're
going
to
be
good.
I
mean
that
that's.
The
mission
of
this
commission
is
to
report
back
to
count
mayor
and
the
council.
D
D
F
Thank
you,
councilman
dudley.
You
intimidate
me
sometimes
so
that
means.
F
But
honestly
it's
the
testament
of
that
committee.
They
are
passionate
folk
and
so
I'm
excited
I'm
taking
notes,
as
you
guys
are
talking
because
they've
been
emailing
me
like.
When
do
we
get
back
to
work?
So,
although
volunteers
they
are
certainly
committed,
and
so
I
I
am
honored
to
be
able
just
to
be
their
their
mouth
for
tonight.
So
thank.
D
D
There's
one
aspect
of
all
of
this
mayor:
that's
sort
of
just
getting
started
and
that's
that
this
whole
zoning
piece
of
which
we'll
feed
into
the
comprehensive
plan
at
some
point
and-
and
I
think
that
ross
has
had
an
initial
meeting
on
that.
So
as
we
move
forward
at
some
point,
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
talk
about
zoning
issues
and
how
they
can
be
changed
in
order
for
there
to
be
equity.
D
B
All
right
great,
is
there
anything.
Do
we
have
anything
else
to
come
for
the
business
of
this
commission
meeting
this
evening.
I
I
Quick
comment,
real
quick
sure,
go
ahead.
Ross.
Thank
you
and
thanks
for
everybody's
reports
today.
This
is
this
is
very
informative
and
councilman
gregory.
I
appreciate
the
the
reference
to
the
issue
that
we
all
know
is
the
biggest
issue
and
the
one
that'll
solve
all
of
our
problems.
I
Zoning
and
land
use
issues,
and
I
had
a
great
hour-long
meeting
yesterday
with
darren
and
abraham
and
we
had
we
covered
a
lot
of
great
ground
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
that
discussion
because
it
because
I
really
think
it's
important,
not
just
a
super
important
issue,
but
it,
but
it
happens
to
be
the
issue
that
local
government,
the
city
of
charleston,
has
the
most
direct
control
over
right.
We
run
zoning,
we
don't
run
healthcare
in
the
united
states
or
in
the
state
of
south
carolina
or
in
the
city
of
charleston.
I
I
The
other
recommendation
I'll
have
and
is
that
you
know
when
we
talk
about
bringing
a
report
to
council.
I
I
think
the
more
streamlined
and
focused
this
thing
is
the
less
opportunity
we
have
for
friction
points
for
people
to
poke
and
take
and
and
grandstand
on
frankly,
and
derail
perhaps
some
of
the
great
work
we're
doing
so.
Perhaps
if
there's
a
you
know,
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
I
want
to
call
it
an
executive
summary
or
something
that
is,
you
know,
you
know
sort
of
a
distillation
of
the
of
the
high
points
and
the
things
that
we
we
know
have
the
most
consensus
on.
I
G
Jerome
so
I'll
remind
and
remind
us
that
one
of
the
hallmarks
of
the
conversation
that
we
have
is
that
it's
going
to
be
some
uncomfortable
kind
of
conversation,
so
councilman
I
with
all
due
respect
it.
It's
gonna,
be
hard.
It's
gonna
be
difficult
for
us
to
do
our
job,
okay
and
then
not
to
be
some
some
difficult
conversations.
G
Okay,
and
so
I'm
because
we're
concerned
about
that.
The
other
point
I
just
want
to
recap:
we're
shooting
for
a
may,
11th
presentation
between
now
and
may
11th
amber
will
lead
us
across
groups
to
to
meet
and
to
begin
to
put
together
the
document
that
will
result
in
a
presentation
on
the
11th.
So
that's
my
understanding
of
where
the
marching
orders.
B
That's
my
understanding,
I
think,
would
be
easiest
for
everybody
is
myself
dudley
and
amber
will
get
together
and
we'll
send
out
a
roadmap,
basically
a
timetable
over
the
next
two
months.
Okay
for
everybody
to
have
I
mean
I
do
think
to
ross's
point.
I
don't
you
know,
I'm
not,
I'm
not
going
to
speak
for
councilman
apparel,
but
I
think
he
was
talking
more,
not
less
less
about
the
content
and
more
about
the
process.
Things
do
get
bogged
down
and
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
us-
and
I
think
jerome.
B
This
speaks
to
your
idea
earlier
about
having
a
strategy
so
we're
moving
from
from
recommendations
to
strategy,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
amber
myself
and
dudley
can
talk
about.
We'll
share
that
with
with
certainly
with
the
commission
members
that
will
give
us
some
ammo.
B
So
it's
not
too
complicated
that
we've
really
thought
it
through,
but
to
your
point
jerome
I
hope.
Hopefully,
some
of
the
items
will
be
uncomfortable
and
if
they're
not,
then
we're
not
doing
our
work.
So
I'm
with
that
is
there
anything
else
for
for
the
good
of
the
order
tonight
or
anything
else
to
come
before
this
commission.
B
With
that
we
are
adjourned,
you
all
have
a
good
night.
Thank
you.