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City of Charleston History Commission 1/4/22
A
B
C
B
B
Just
on
some
other
reasons-
and
you
know,
we
at
the
college
have
lent
materials
to
museums
and
they
generally
do
send
that
type
of
paperwork
with
it
basically
saying
that
they
are,
you
know
they
meet
temperature
and
humidity
specifications.
The
travel
is
a
certain
way,
and
that
kind
of
thing
it
is
my
understanding
that
these
have
already
been
accepted.
Yeah.
C
B
Think
the
city,
just
you
know
the
city
wants
us
to
say
yay
or
nay,
on
the
possibility
of
lending
the
Francis
Marion
portrait,
which
is
in
the
old
Exchange
building
to
the
Florence
art
museum,
for
this
particular
exhibit
I,
do
believe.
It's
similar
to
things
that
we've
done
before
city
council
will
take
our
recommendation
into
consideration.
I,
don't
think
the
buck
stops
here.
D
Okay,
well
I
was
impressed
by
the
the
package.
The
the
institution
had
to
complete
to
essentially
ask
for
the
loan
and
justify
their
their
terms
of
receipt
and
care.
I
had
never
seen
an
application
of
that
type,
but
it's
exhausting
and
I
I
don't
want
to
I,
don't
have
to
fill
one
of
those
out.
That's
incredible
and
the
that
format
sounds.
It
looks
like
an
association
type
other
other
institutions
can
use
to
make
sure
they
cover
all
their
bases.
Is
that.
B
Right
right,
so
museums,
you
know,
are
that
you
know
there
to
be
accredited.
So
you
know
museums
like
the
Gibbs
and
the
Florence
Art
Museum,
you
know
have
a
standard
level
of
accreditation
like
schools.
Do
they
have
to
have
a
certain
maintain
a
certain
you
know,
type
of
temperature
and
relative
humidity
Etc,
and
there
are
vaults
and
they
have
to,
and
there
are
standards
about
how
to
move
art
and
I'm,
assuming
that
all
of
those
attachments
you
know
are
showing
that
they're
following
pretty
much
typical
protocol
and
standard
operating
procedures.
B
You
know
because
we
aren't
unsure
I
do
think.
You
know
that
if
someone
did
want
to
make
a
motion
we,
the
motion
could
be
made
that
we
approve
of
this.
If,
indeed,
all
of
those
other
ins,
all
of
those
other
pieces
of
artwork
have
been
accepted,
you
know,
and
they
and
those
other
institutions
are
sending
it
as
well
again,
not
trying.
B
Right
I
think
that
was
it,
it
does
I
mean
I
do
think
they
were
saying
you
know.
February
14th
actually
seems
to
be
frank,
that's
actually
a
fairly
quick
turnaround
to
get
a
piece
of
art,
even
though
within
the
state
of
South
Carolina
from
one
institution
to
another
through
a
certified
art
mover
oftentimes.
You
know
an
item
actually
is
it
gets
into
the
museum,
then
it
is
actually
observed
and
they
do
a
conservation
report
on
it
when
it
is
received,
so
that
you
know
so
when
it
goes
back.
B
They
know
that
it's
in
the
exact
same
condition
and
I'm,
assuming
that
they
can
do
this
with
the
turnaround
it
was
submitted,
just
December
2nd.
So
it
looks
like
they're
comfortable
with
dealing,
although
it
does
say
2021
and
I'm,
assuming
that
so
I
don't
know
if
this
has
been
sitting
in
the
city
for
a
year.
I
just
don't
know.
D
B
D
It
may
have
been
prepared
to
proposal
may
have
been
prepared
for
one
of
the
other
institutions
where
Andrew
Stout
is,
and
that's
not
so
important
to
us,
and
that
date
is.
We
can
Overlook
that.
But
within
the
document
itself
there
is
a
set
of
dates,
the
dates
when
the
exhibit
would
occur
and
they're
not
2023
they're
2022.
I
didn't
print
that
page
nor.
B
A
D
B
Vote,
it
is
my
understanding
when
it
was
emailed
to
us
that,
although
there
is
you
know
as
many
of
you
all
on
this
commission
know,
this
was
our
10
history.
It
has
been
split.
You
know
the
Arts
has
been
split
off.
I
thought
that
this
was
more
appropriate
to
go
to
the
Arts,
but
I
was
told
that
the
that
the
mayor
Etc
wanted
to
see
if
the
historical
commission
would
approve
of
it
as
well
too.
I
do
not
know
if
it's
going
to
Arts
as
well.
D
B
See
that
in
here
right
and
yeah,
yes,
I'm
assuming
and
I,
just
don't
know
if
the
text-
that's
you
know,
that's
attached
to
these
images
would
be
similar
to
the
ones.
You
know
that
they
are
too
just
artists
and
size
and
medium,
but
again,
I
think,
since
we
I
think
we
will
be
guiding
city
council
and
not
making
the
decision
ourselves.
I
think
we
can
make
any
kind
of
motion
with
any
kind
of
caveats
that
we
want
so
I'm
encouraging
people
to
do
that
and
turn
on
your
microphone.
Please
Robert.
B
B
B
Any
discussion
call
for
the
vote.
Everyone-
everyone
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye.
Anyone
opposed
I
think
it's
unanimous
okay.
So
the
order
of
business
that
we
have
here
today
is
this
marker
from
the
state
archives
for
the
Charleston
Riot
of
1919
and,
as
we've
done
it
before,
if
we
want
to
take
it
side
by
side,
if
people
have
significant
or
have
any
kind
of
issues,
questions
comments,
let's
open
the
floor
for
discussion.
C
C
Technically,
that's
correct,
because
the
sailors
happen
to
be
here
in
Charleston,
but
Sailors,
weren't
charlestonians,
and
if
the
document
it
was
included
with
the
proposal
which
I
understand
is,
is
a
really
interesting
document.
Yeah
exactly
yeah.
He
specifically
on
two
occasions
makes
and
as
I
understand
it,
this
was
not
for
public
consumption
until
it
was
printed.
So
this
is
his
product.
Journals
makes
a
strong
point
on
two
occasions
that
the
local
white
charlestonians
did
not
do
this.
This
was
I,
don't
want
to
say
they
were
all
Yankees,
but
they
were
nines.
C
They
were
no,
they
were
from,
they
were
from
off
exactly
so.
Consequently,
it
seems
to
me-
and-
and
that
goes
into
a
couple
of
other
comments
I'll
have
later
on-
then
maybe
it
ought
to
not
be
named
the
Charleston
Riot
of
1919,
but
maybe
1919
race
right
implicitly
by
the
fact.
It's
going
to
be
erected
in
Charleston,
it
has
something
to
do
with
Charleston.
That's
just
that.
That's
one
comment.
The
other
relates
to
that
in
the
I.
C
B
B
I
mean
I'm
going
to
be
I,
see
your
point
but
I'm
going
to
be
Devil's
Advocate,
but
then,
since
we're
specifically
saying
that
they
are
black
residents,
I
think
we've
always
tried
to
write
these
facts
assuming
and
I.
Think
in
Angela's
words
that
the
people
reading
them
know
absolutely
nothing
about
U.S
history
and
we
have
to
do
it
for
them.
That's
good
people.
Could
people
have
assumed
that
the
Navy
was
integrated
at
that
time?
You
know
if
you
say.
C
B
B
But
again
right,
but
we
you
can't
be
sure
that
someone
reading
one
side
is
going
to
read
the
other
side.
That's
just
my
thought,
but
I'll
throw
it
open
to
other
people
for
I,
mean
I,
think
the
point
of
1919
race
riot.
You
know
it
puts
it
in
context
because
it
was
a
United
States
issue.
It
was
not
just
a
Charleston
issue
and
you're
right.
The
fact
that
it's
sitting
there
in
Charleston
would
assume
that
it
is
a
Charleston
event.
C
Yeah
and
it's
particularly
when
now
I'm,
assuming
because
I
do
have
a
question
about
this
because
of
the
disparity
with
regard
to
injuries
and
all
which
I
will
wait
until
we
get
to
the
second
one
but
I'm.
Assuming
that
does
anybody
I
wish
Nick?
Would
you
know,
because
Nick
wrote
a
really
good
article
about
this
on
his
time
machine?
The
problem
is
his:
his
article
was
in
1990
initial
in
the
published
until
2021
and
so
I.
C
B
Right
I
mean
he
I'm,
you
know,
Dr
mcfaul
was
in
as
far
as
I
you
know,
I
dealt
with
his
niece,
the
niece
who
got
this
published.
You
know
I.
He
did
obviously
write
it
after
the
fact
whether
he
made
it
on
whether
you
have
to
diary
at
the
time
we
don't
know
I
think
this
is
composed,
probably
in
the
40s.
Sometimes
his
memory
seems
to
be
amazing.
You
know,
I
I
will
say
that
you
know.
B
I
have
read
the
book
called
red
summer
that
came
out
about
five
or
six
years
ago
about
the
national
right
right.
Thanks
and
you
know,
and
I
did
question
Edwin
Breeden
about
this
at
the
state
archives
you
know,
did
he
want
and
again
sorry
it's
a
second
time
did
he
want
to
put
in
how
many?
Because
there
aren't
there
are.
There
is
information
about
how
many
white
people
were
injured,
et
cetera,
Etc
and
anyway.
So
you
know,
I
did
again.
Devil's
Advocate
tried
to
talk
to
him
about
that.
C
C
First
of
all,
right
I
think
it's
pretty
much
fun
I
agree
with
David
about
it,
I
hate
to
call
him
Charleston
Riot,
particularly
since
it
was
started
by
people
who
really
weren't
from
Charleston,
but
on
the
other
hand,
Nick
really
wrote
a
very
long,
very
comprehensive
article,
which
is
online
so
I,
I,
guess
what
I
was
hoping.
Nick
was
going
to
be
here,
because
if
he
puts
his
stamp
of
approval
on
it,
then
it's
fine
with
me
so
I
I
guess.
Has
he
opined
about
this.
B
C
I
guess
my
question:
I
I,
you
know
I
think
it's
generally
accurate.
It's
and
the
problem
is
these
things
you
can't.
You
only
have
this
tiny
little
number
of
words,
so
you
can't
really
I
mean
here's
Nick's
article,
you
know,
which
is
15
pages
or
whatever,
but
I
would
really
like
the
Nick
to
tell
us
whether
he
disagreed
so
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
making
a
motion
I'm.
Just
saying
that's
my
only
concern
about
it.
Thanks.
A
Hi
Peg:
this
is
really
piddly,
but
you've
got
black
capped
and
you
have
white
and
lower
case
and
I've
seen
it
with
white
being
capitalized
now
and
wouldn't
for
consistency
sake,
you
wouldn't
you
like
to
have
black
and
white
capitalized
I
mean
I,
don't
really
care
I'm.
Just
talking
about
consistency
again,.
B
I
did
ask
I
noticed
that
and
I
asked
Evan
Breeden.
You
know
because
it
is
the
state
archives,
as
we
all
know
that
you
know
that
submit
this.
He
said
that
some
of
the
standards
that
they
cleaved
I
told
them
newspapers
seem
to
capitalize
both
black
and
white,
and
he
did
say
I
mean
again
it's
completely
our
Province.
To
do
this
I'm
just
saying
that
I
did
ask
him
that
question
and
he
said
at
a
style
sheet
that
they
cleave
to
they
have
not
capitalized
White.
D
Dale
well,
in
this
case,
they're
both
used
as
adjectives
black
residents
White
sailors.
So
what
what?
What
grammatical
or
English
speaking
reason
is
there
to
capitalize
one
and
not
the
other?
Or
is
there
some
other
reason
which
I
take?
It
must
be
in
the
minds
of
the
archives
folks,
and
then
the
point
was
made
about
well
at
that
time,
probably
I'm,
not
sure,
but
I,
probably
all
Sailors
were
white
and
it
begs
the
point:
why
use
the
word?
D
But
at
the
same
time
you
if
you
believe
that
people
are
reading
to
learn
and
they
don't
know
these
things?
What
what
can
we
can?
We
use
something
other
than
white.
It
gives
the
point
of
segregation
or
segregated
racial,
racially
segregated,
that's
longer
and
maybe
Congressman,
but
at
the
same
time
it
does
away
with
this
problem
with
black
and
white
being
adjectives,
not
nouns.
B
I
mean
I,
think
we've
got
the
you
know
the
the
ability
to
say,
capitalized
white,
you
know
I
mean
we
can
certainly
recommend
that
right,
you
know.
So
again
we
can
do
that
and
and
again
I
I.
You
know
I
do
always
clean
back
to
the
point
that
we
cannot
assume
that
people
are
as
familiar
with
history
as
we
are,
and
you
know
if
you're
calling
it
a
race
riot,
it's
a
race
ride
between
black
and
white
people.
That's
my
personal!
B
C
C
It
could
it
could
have
been
any
constant
and
I
think
it's
important,
particularly
since
there
was
a
differentiation
in
Dr
mcfaul's
about
who
really
caused
it
and
who
really
participated
and
who
didn't
is
to
make
sure
that
it
that
aspect
of
the
of
the
language
is
emphasized.
That's
all
right,
I
mean
and
I
know.
You
don't
want
me
to
say
it's
on
the
next
page,
so
to
speak,
but
it
is
on
the
next
page
and
I.
Don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
There.
B
C
B
D
A
C
D
B
B
C
Do
think
nobody's
explanation
was
the
record.
He
said
that
he
felt
it
was
all
these
were
you
all.
These
were
U.S
Sailors,
so
he
felt
it
was
his
patriotic
duty
to
try
to
to
try
to
help
him.
That's
what
he
said.
It
goes
back
to
being
the
Navy.
If
they
had
been
Greek
Sailors,
he
wouldn't
probably
have
to
go
speedy.
B
C
C
B
B
Summer,
so
red
summer
was
actually
coined
back
at
the
time
by
James
Weldon
Johnson
of
the
NAACP
red
I
think
so
in
the
books
there
are
books
published,
always
calling
it
The
Red
summer
and
I.
Think
that's
why
it's
in
quotation
marks
red
being
the
fact
of
the
violence
and
red.
Also
being
this
is
really
getting
into
the
weeds.
B
C
B
E
If
I
could
just
make
a
comment-
and
it's
a
little
way
coming
into
this
meeting
but
enjoy
the
discussion
we've
had
already
in
the
in
the
terms
red
and
black
and
white
in
naval
officers,
we
have
to
be
remindful.
My
very
simple
question
about
red
summer,
because
red
also
meant,
if
I
remember,
Indians
race
riots
did
not
always
contain
black
against
whites.
It
was
other
ethnic
groups
from
time
to
time
in
our
American
history.
E
D
Yeah
to
do
that,
okay,
I've,
learned
more
today
about
the
red
summer
than
I
have
ever
known.
So
if,
if
the
red
summer
was
very
robust
and
involved
a
lot
of
problems
in
a
lot
of
places,
Beyond
race
riots,
then
is
it
in
that?
That's
an.
If
is
it
proper
to
say
that
the
red
summer
was
a
wave
of
racist
or
included
or
involved
a
wave
of
racist
attacks,
or
was
it
simply
a
wave
of
racist
attacks
when
you
bring
in
international
politics
beyond
that
right.
B
I
mean
I
mean
people
are
my
reading
of
again
no
expert,
but
you
know
I
read
the
book
some
years
ago.
When
it
came
out,
you
know
it
was.
There
were
a
series
of
attacks.
Chicago
was
certainly
the
worst,
but
they
were
attacking
people
burning,
burning
businesses.
You
know
like
they
were
doing
in
Charleston.
They
didn't
burn
them,
but
you
know,
you
know,
broke
up
businesses,
but
you
know
they
were
not.
B
Historians
have
gone
on
the
record
of
basically
saying
that's
why
they
thought
they
were
caused
is
because
of
Labor
unrest
because
of
you
know,
returning
veterans
at
the
time
people
were
not
screaming.
As
far
as
I
know,
people
were
not
screaming
Bolshevik
at
each
other.
You
know
when
they
were
attacking
them.
You
know
it
wasn't
a
political
agenda.
Apparently
historians
have
come
and
said
that
this
is
why
they
did
it
so
you're
on
your
smartphone
yeah.
C
B
E
B
B
C
But
I
do
have
a
question
when
you
say
it
said
others,
and
this
goes
back
to
the
point
I
was
making
earlier
or
that
I'd
say
I
should
say:
Dr
mcball
was
making.
Who
are
the
others
I
mean
again?
Is
that
going
to
be?
We
know
there
was
one
other.
There
was
one
Charleston,
but
is
that
going
to
be
perceived
as
what
you're
talking
about
people
aren't
going
to
know
anything?
C
What
are
they
going
to
say
when
they
say
others
they're
going
to
think?
Oh
and
a
bunch
of
people
from
Charleston
joining
and
and
there's
no
evidence
of
that
as
far
as
I
could
tell
I
read
next
I
read
actually
Damon
forson,
but
it's
got
one
about
it.
I
read
about
six
or
eight
things
and
I
read
this
very
carefully
and
after
no
one
says
anything
in
that
regard,
that
any
appreciable
number
of
local
people
had
anything
to
do
with
it.
So
I
mean
I.
B
B
C
B
One
possible
way:
you
can
do
it
if
you
could,
if
it
would
accommodate
line
three,
you
could
possibly
add
the
word
sum
for
several
hours.
Hundreds
of
white
Sailors
and
others
moved
along
King,
Street
and
some
be
stabbed.
That's
not
that
saying
that
not
every
person
in
the
mob
beat
and
that
way
you
could.
We.
C
C
Yeah
but
I
mean
there
was
something
that
said
and
Pat
in
this
in
this
article.
That's
why
I
was
wondering.
Is
this
generally
considered
a
fairly?
You
know
reliable
source.
He
talks
about
that.
There
were
ships
and
harmer
and
that
the
offices
on
the
ships
allowed
the
sailors
from
the
ships
to
come
ashore
once
they
felt.
You
know
heard
about
what
was
going
on
and
that's
why
he
says
there
were
actually
thousands,
not
hundreds
well.
C
C
B
C
B
C
D
A
B
My
thought
would
be
is
if
13,
if
line
three
is
thrown
too
far,
if
we
could
use
another
verb,
others
moved
along
King
Street.
If
you
could,
if
you
could
say,
moved
along
or
you
could
say
you
know,
then,
instead
of
saying
moved
along,
if
you
could
figure
that
in
the
less
number
of
characters,
then
you.
B
C
C
B
C
B
B
A
B
B
I,
don't
think
at
the
time
the
paper
was
capitalizing
anyway,
but
we
can
double
check
on
that.
Many
defended
themselves,
including
some
who
took
up
weapons,
the
mob
overwhelmed,
City,
police
and
order
was
restored
early
May
11.
Only
after
and
I'm
assuming
Marines
is
capitalized
and
military
police
intervened.
Three
black
residents
were
killed
and
dozens
were
injured.
C
C
B
The
issue
didn't
have
space
I'm,
sorry,
I,
don't
remember
exactly,
but
I
did
raise
it
I
said:
do
you
want
to
put
that
in
there
and
they
basically
said
no,
for
whatever
reason
and
again,
you
know,
I
can't
make
him
change
it.
I
was
just
telling
him.
These
are
probably
questions
that
are
going
to
come
up
when
I
talk
to
him.
I
basically
say
these
are
issues
that
are
probably
going
to
be
raised.
Do
you
want
to
change
the
language
before
it
comes
to
us
and
I
always
try
to
give
him?
B
C
Well,
let
me
let
me
say
this:
let
me
look
the
whole
reason
that
that
we're
having
this
mindless
sign
is
we're
trying
to
correct.
You
know
we're
trying
to
talk
about
things
that
have
not
been
talked
about.
In
other
words,
I
mean
I,
didn't
even
know.
You
know
when
I
wrote,
a
short
history
of
Charleston
I
wasn't
even
familiar
with
the
1919
Riot,
because
it
wasn't
in
anything
ever
written
about
the
history
of
Charleston
that
I'm
aware
of
except
for
the
primary
sources.
I
mean
you
know
a
real
historian.
C
I
guess
you
go
read
all
these
things.
The
Navy
wrote
a
big
report
about
it,
but
it
was
certainly
a
minor
incident
to
to
the
minds
of
most
people
writing
about
the
history
of
Charles
prior
to
the
current
time.
So
we're
trying
to
correct
omissions
of
the
past
and
I
mean
we
just
can't
say
anything:
I
don't
disagree,
but
the
signs
only
gonna
be
so
big
and
yeah
I
mean
I.
Think
they've
done
a
pretty
good
job
really.
C
B
D
B
C
D
D
B
C
B
B
C
B
If
that's
the
case,
if
someone
wants
to
make
it
like,
but
we
can
go
over
so
if
there's
no
more
discussion,
I'm
just
going
to
recap
what
we've
and
you
can
see,
Phillips
done
it
with
underscoring
on
something
like
or
not.
No
well,
I
can
just
see
what
the
changes
are.
So
we
have
capitalized
White
on
line
two.
We
have
included
the
word
sum
on
line.
Three.