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City of Charleston Community Development 3/11/2021
B
B
B
B
This
is
about
using
the
friends
in
a
structured
partnership
to
achieve
something:
wonderful
for
the
city,
something
that
builds
resiliency
in
stormwater
handling
and
improved
mobility,
recreation
and
social
enrichment,
all
of
which
can
strongly
support,
affordable
housing
and
help
build
equitable
opportunity,
with
the
very
promising
prospect
of
federal
and
private
sector
help
every
dollar
the
city
puts
in
now
could
leverage
another
five,
perhaps
even
seven
dollars
timing.
This
start
putting
shovels
in
the
ground
sooner
rather
than
later
is,
in
my
opinion,
critical
you've
heard
it
before,
but
it
bears
repeating.
B
A
A
C
Is
megan
mills
good
afternoon
city
council,
mayor
teklenberg,
public
outreach
for
the
lowline
project
is
critical.
I
know
you
all
have
heard
from
me
about
the
extensive
amount
of
outreach
we
have
already
done
to
date.
We
are
very
proud
of
the
work
we
have
done
in
the
past
year
and
are
proud
of
the
partnerships
we
have
established.
We
have
created
relationships
with
multiple
organizations
and
community
leaders
and
I'm
happy
to
share
that
list
with
anyone,
but
we
also
acknowledge
and
take
in
that
there's
a
large
segment
of
the
community
that
hasn't
had
a
voice.
C
Yet
we
are
listening
going
forward
once
the
true
design
portion
begins.
We
will
do
everything
to
ensure
that
the
people
who
haven't
had
a
voice
in
this
will
have
one.
We
will
not
only
take
their
feedback
but
incorporate
it
into
the
project
and
in
the
programming.
Because
of
that,
we
are
confident
that
everyone
will
take
ownership
of
the
park
and
feel
welcome
and
included.
We
appreciate
the
partnership
we
already
have
created
with
the
city
of
charleston
and
look
forward
to
growing
that
and
defining
it
as
we
move
forward.
C
The
charleston
community
is
ready
for
a
park,
so
we
fully
support
tonight.
The
presentation
for
the
equitable
low
line
document
that's
been
created
by
city
staff
and
we
appreciate
their
hard
work.
We're
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
the
discussion
here
tonight
thanks
so
much
thanks
for
letting
me
do
that.
D
D
E
B
Yeah
maybe
megan
and
I
both
can
share
a
little
bit.
First
of
all,
we
have
a
meeting
with
with
mount
matt
fountain
next
week.
We
are.
We
are
really
aware
of
the
cro,
the
intersection
between
our
efforts
and
the
city's
efforts,
and
we
realize
that
when
we
get
really
get
engineering
underway,
we
we've
got
a
lot
of
coordinating
to
do
with
with
stormwater
so
megan.
If
you
have
anything
to
add.
C
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
we'll
move
on
down
to
our
new
businesses
now
and
we'll
have
requests
from
the
approval
for
20
21
22
community
development
block
grant
and
I'm
going
to
call
him
is
gianna
johnson
and
to
share
us
with
that.
We
have
already
approved
it
looked
at
it,
so
ms
johnson
would
go
back
over
it.
I
don't
think
we
have
to
go
through
the
whole
list.
I
think
everyone
have
received
a
copy
of
the
list
of
the
changes.
F
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
councilmember
mitchell
and
members
of
the
committee.
I
want
to
start
by
sharing
with
you.
The
change
in
funding
amounts
that
we've
seen
so
from
the
prior
year.
This
budget
that
is
before
you
now
will
be
for
the
2021
2022
program
year
that
effectively
begins
june
1
of
this
year.
We
saw
a
decrease
in
cdbg
of
32
721.
F
We
saw
an
increase
in
our
home
allocation
of
nine
thousand
five
hundred
and
forty
dollars,
and
then
we
saw
an
increase
in
our
hot
water,
which
is
housing
opportunities
for
persons
with
aids
of
one
hundred
thousand
three
hundred
and
forty
two
dollars.
So
just
so
you're
fully
aware
that
we
did
see
some
increases,
but
we
also
saw
some
declines
or
decreases
in
our
allocation
and
the
community
development
advisory
committee
met
several
weeks
ago
to
review
this
budget
along
with
staff.
F
And
what
you
see
before
you
today
is
that
budget,
along
with,
of
course,
those
requests
that
come
from
our
non-profit
partners
who
help
us
to
achieve
the
goals
as
outlined
in
our
consolidated
plan.
And
so
I
would
ask
your
approval
of
the
budget
for
both
housing
opportunities
for
persons
with
aids,
home
investment,
partnership
program
funding
and
community
development
block
grant
funding
is
presented
to
you
in
your
packet.
H
F
H
All
right
so
so,
thank
you.
Everyone,
and
so
this
update
tonight
is
for
your
information
and
input
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
share
our
staff's
current
thinking
around
the
issues
of
gentrification
and
displacement
and
equity
around
the
future
low
country
low
line,
so
we're
all
excited
about
the
benefits
of
the
low
line.
H
We
also
understand
the
challenges
that
bringing
forward
a
significant
public
improvement
can
have
on
its
surrounding
communities.
We've
seen
it
play
out
at
the
high
line
in
new
york
city,
the
beltline
in
atlanta,
and
our
goal
is
to
prevent
as
much
as
we
can
a
recurrence
of
that
at
the
low
line.
The
low
line
should
be
a
park
for
the
people,
and
we
also
need
to
work
to
ensure
that
its
neighbors
can
live
and
thrive
in
their
communities
nearby.
H
So
we're
interested
in
capturing
broader
input
to
make
this
stronger,
including
here
today
and
into
the
future.
I
also
just
want
to
commend
the
housing
and
mobility
subcommittee
of
the
commission
on
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation
for
for
their
focus
on
these
issues
specific
to
the
low
line.
They
understand
both
the
opportunity
and
the
threat
that
a
project
like
this
can
entail
for
its
neighbors.
H
There
are
also
approximately
300
units
of
additional,
affordable,
affordable
housing
that
are
planned
for
this
area
within
a
quarter
mile
of
the
low
line,
so
so
moving
on
into
the
strategy
section,
and
we
can
start
with
the
area
of
community
building
and
outreach.
The
first
item
is
around
increasing
racial,
gender
and
age
diversity
on
the
board
of
the
friends
as
the
entity
entrusted
by
the
city
to
partner
in
shaping
the
future
of
the
low
line.
H
D
H
So
an
engaged
community
advisory
council
should
help
to
ensure
community
needs
and
input
are
at
the
forefront
at
each
stage
of
the
low
line.
The
friends
have
begun.
The
process
of
forming
a
community
advisory
council
and
the
city
should
be
working
with
the
friends
in
this
effort
to
make
sure
that
it's
inclusive.
G
H
H
H
H
Yes,
let's
just
share
this
map
posted
on
the
post
and
courier
that
shows
the
locations
of
the
developments
that
previously
rezoned
to
mu
that
maximized
their
site
density
and
opted
out
of
building
any
affordable
units-
and
you
know
this-
this
is
essentially
the
route
of
the
low
line.
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
that
that
policy
change
could
have
implications
for
housing
ins
in
this
area.
H
We
also
want
to
explore
utilizing
a
state
put
fund,
there's
a
lot
of
detail
around
the
parameters
of
what
this
could
look
like,
but
a
state
fund
would
basically
compensate
nearby
property
owners
for
increases
in
their
property
taxes
resulting
from
reassessment.
This
is
an
idea
that
came
out
of
a
previous
statement
fund
that
was
about
a
magnolia.
H
And
then
last
section
development
and
preservation,
so
we've
discussed
the
low
line
housing
site
at
the
last
cd
meeting.
As
you
know,
we've
selected
to
develop
a
developer
to
build
55
units
of
affordable
rental
housing
on
the
site,
and
so
we're
excited
about
partnering
with
them
and
recognize
that
this
is
an
important
piece
to
the
puzzle
in
terms
of
delivering
additional
affordable
units
near
the
low
line.
H
Housing
staff
has
been
monitoring
the
area
surrounding
the
low
line
for
additional
acquisition
for
affordable
housing
development
and,
as
you
all
know,
this
area's
really
throughout
the
peninsula
has
become
more
and
more
pricey.
So
there's
there's
challenges
for
us
and
acquiring
properties,
but
it's
something
that
we
continue
to
monitor
and
rounding
out.
This
section
city
will
continue
to
advocate
for
increased
density
on
rental
assistance.
Demonstration
sites
explore
opportunity
funds
as
a
vehicle
to
support
additional,
affordable
housing.
H
We've
engaged
with
an
opportunity
fund
had
some
discussions
with
them
about
potential
investments
specifically
for
affordable
housing
on
the
peninsula
and
those
are
ongoing
and
then,
lastly,
identifying
city-owned
sites
for
affordable
housing
development.
So
if
we
have
properties
that
can
meet
this
need,
we
should
be
looking
at
those.
J
H
J
J
Well,
let
me
let
me
tell
you
what
I'm
I'm
thinking.
I
know
we,
we
have
the
objective
anyway
and
there's
on
the
line
now
we're
trying
to
find
an
alternative
spot
for
our,
maybe
our
recreation
department.
You
know
coca-cola
plant
and
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
it's
alternative
site
we're
found,
this
is
something
maybe
we
need
to
look
into
the
legality.
You
know
that
alternative
site
probably
will
not
be
within
that
tif
district.
J
So
I'm
wondering
if
somehow
monies
for
affordable
housing
could
be
used
as
a
property
swap
where
the
folks
at
the
coca-cola
plant
can
acquire
another
site,
and
this
property,
hopefully,
is
close
or
very
close
to
the
fifth
district.
I
hope,
or
some
tif
district
in
exchange
for
the
alternative
site.
Then
this
site
becomes,
you
know
all
affordable
housing
with
but
affordable
with
a
coca-cola
bottling
plant.
Is
it
two
situations
like
that?
J
If
we
combine
that
with
the
sc
g
site,
it
may
be
very
well
be
large
enough
for
our
people
over
at
the
coca-cola
plant
to
move
operations
over
there
and
then
that
coca-cola
site
become
affordable,
housing
which
would
be
and
man
you
can
hop
and
skip
and
get
to
the
low
line
from
there.
That's
one
because
you're
right
matt,
the
property
is
very
expensive.
It's
not
getting
any
cheaper.
J
The
second
one
is
councilman
mitchell
in
your
district.
You
know,
right
off
of
I
think,
is
grace
street.
Where
the
town
houses
right
now
is
being
used
for
parking,
mr
the
gentleman
with
the
old
cigar
factory
could
get
his
name
coswell.
I
believe
a
very
good
out
of
the
box
think
I
had
a
conversation
with
him
and
obviously
he
needs
a
the
least
on
that
parking
is
he'd
like
to
extend
it,
and
I
asked
him.
J
So
those
two
potential
exchanges
are
out
there
and
I
I
wanted
to
know-
and
this
we
can't
get
an
answer
on
this
now,
but
if
monies
can
be
used
from
a
tiff
account
to
buy
an
alternative
site
that
would
gauge
until
swap
so
throw
those
two
out.
Those
two
examples
out
for
affordable
housing
around
the
around
the
low
line.
J
A
A
G
You're,
the
wrap-up
mayor,
thank
you
chairman,
and
I
I
love
watching
councilmember
waring's
wheels
turning
in
his
head,
it's
like,
which
makes
me
think
that
maybe
we
should
use
this
opportunity
as
a
bigger
committee,
to
form
a
little
sub.
You
know
subtask
group
a
wheeling
and
dealing
task
group
that
can
rally
around
mr
jalla's
wonderful
report
and
especially
focus
on
the
real
estate
section
of
it.
I
so
that
that
I
would
volunteer.
I
think
that
would
be
a
really.
G
It's
smacks
of
collegiality,
collaboration,
public,
private
partnerships.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions
and
you
know
sort
of
the
tapestry
still
is
coming
together
and
and
big
chunks
of
threads
that
need
to
be
woven
in,
but
I
do
feel
like.
We
have
a
sense
of
a
framework,
as
the
low-lying
friends
have
been
telling
us
all
along.
This
is
not
their
project.
G
This
is
truly,
you
know
the
poster
child
of
a
robust
public,
private
partnership
with
investors
that
we
don't
even
know
exists
yet,
and
the
and
the
players
that
you
know
have
been
pouring
themselves
out,
like
the
friends
and
several
of
their
supporters
have
done
for
a
long
time.
So
I
I'm
very
excited
to
see
that
the
city
has
contributed
our
thinking
and
our
you
know
understanding
of
topics
that
might
not
be
that
familiar
to
our
private
partners.
G
A
E
E
It's
right
across
the
street
so
and
I
think
that's
okay,
particularly
councilmember,
wearing
an
awesome
idea
for
that,
eventually
to
be
affordable,
housing
number
one,
it's
not
in
this
district.
So
if
we
build
affordable
housing
there,
we're
not
missing
out
on
the
big,
you
know
bonus
of
the
extra
property
tax.
We
keep
it
on
the
city.
E
You
know
ownership
if
we
like,
and
the
transit
stop
for
lcrt
will
be
right
across
the
street,
so
it's
just
it's
much
more
suited
for
affordable
housing
than
it
is
to
for
a
warehouse
for
our
maintenance
and
parks
department.
With
all
due
respect
to
mr
kronsberg
and
everyone
it,
it
really
makes
a
lot
more
sense,
long
term,
just
what
you
recommended
councilmember
wearing.
I
just
want
to
go
ahead
and
say
I
think,
that's
an
awesome
idea.
A
E
A
D
I
thought
the
city
owns
it.
Well,
maybe
we
can
talk
to
the
citadel,
but
I
think
it's
not
used
it's
very
rarely
used.
It
is
used
for
a
baseball
practice
now
and
then,
but
it's
an
unbelievable
sight
right
in
the
middle
of
the
city.
Okay,
that
we
can
be
very
cr,
I
think
john
song
can
be
very
creative
with
john
sonmez
is,
is
gianna.
D
I
know
just
just
to
throw
it
out
there
if
we're
going
to
have
this
little
subcommittee
start
talking
about
alternative
sites
for
creating
affordable
housing.
While
I
know
we're
talking
low-lying,
I
just
think
that
we
can
expand
the
focus.
I
mean
keith
and
mitchell,
and
you
put
your
name
in
there
right.
We've
been
we've
talked
about
that
many
times
as
we
sit
at
moe's,
and
I
just
think
that
it's
now
time
for
us
to
sort
of
look
into
that
matter
and
see
whether
or
not
we
can
get
that
site.
A
A
F
I
A
I
J
Let
me
tell
you
what
let
me
tell
you
some
good
news
on
that
there's.
There
has
been
some
talk
already
with
I've
mentioned
it
as
a
result
of
what
councilman,
gregory
and
mitchell
with
all
of
mitchell
didn't
lose
to,
but
we
do
we
we
used
to
anyway
go
to
move.
Sometimes
after
city
council
meeting
you're
right,
we
would
talk
about
affordable
housing
there.
So
we,
I
pitched
the
idea
to
a
couple
of
prominent
citadel
alumni
who
have
touched
base
with
the
pres,
the
new
president.
J
E
J
F
D
J
J
Well
right
now
they
can't
use
this
college
park
to
put
housing
there,
because
then
they
have
to
come
back
to
the
city.
I
see
supposed
to
be
using
a
baseball
field.
That
kind
of
thing,
so
you
know
if
we
can
work
out.
You
know
something
there
I
mean.
Maybe
we
can
go
up.
How
many
stories
in
that
district?
Can
we
go
up
there?
I
don't
know
four
stories,
maybe
yeah.
J
Housing
component
for
them,
as
well
as
some
affordability
for
the
city,
but
again
it
opens
up
underutilized
land
variable
land
for
the
citadel
and
then
gets
what
is
a
blight
quite
frankly,
because
the
citizen
never
going
to
make
that
thing.
Look
too,
it's
always
going
to
look
kind
of
rough
over
there
yeah
right,
so
we
you
know,
killed
it
I'll,
say
that
say
what
it's
worth
exploring
that
I
agree.
Definitely,
and
so
I
agree
and
and
that
idea
that
council
jackson
had
about
putting
together
a
little
out-of-the-box
thinking.
A
A
F
F
A
J
Okay,
I'm
looking
to
be
recognized,
I'm
looking
at
my
notes
all
right
thanks
who
owns
the
low
line,
I'm
thinking
it's
the
city,
but
look
at
the
city
all
right.
Let
me
tell
you
one
reason
when
we
had
that
discussion
at
not
last
meeting,
but
maybe
this
city
council
meeting
before
that,
while
I
waged
and
when
I
heard
the
piece
about
drainage,
you
know
seven
million
dollars
worth
of
drainage
for
the
low
line
or
something
like
of
that
effect.
J
J
D
Karate
you're
coming
on,
we
did
have
a
discussion
with
regard
to
drainage
right
and
the
need
for
coordination
with
mad
and
all
everyone.
So
we
did.
We
did
have
a
discussion
on
that
earlier
and
the
low
line
folks,
mag
and
bradford
clearly
said
that
they
realize
it
is
something
that
the
city
would
have
to
be
intricately
involved
in
okay,.
J
Great
okay,
so
when
it
comes
to
the
actual
improvement
to
the
low
line
itself,
I
see
it
as
a
capital
project
with
the
city
public
private.
Very
much
like
the
guild
yard
very
much
like
international
african
american,
but
our
capital
projects,
people
oversaw
broke
both
of
those
projects
and
obviously
was
involved
with
the
bidding.
J
Does
this
draft
bring
any
clarity
to
that
when
it
comes
to
making
the
improvements
along
the
low
line?
Is
it
going
to
be
our
capital
projects
department,
handling
the
bids,
or
is
it
going
to
be
friends
of
the
low
line
handling
the
bids?
That's
the
kind
of
transparency
that
I
hope
we
can
address
through
this
draft
process.
So
when
it
comes
to
counsel
those
questions
would
be
vetted
out
and
answered.
E
Andy
gowder
are
working
on
a
new
version
of
that
agreement
between
us.
That
would
outline
who
does
what
what
the
city's
oversight
would
be,
what
the
role
of
the
low
line
would
be
accountability
and
all
like
that
so
they're
working
chip.
What
do
you
think
we're
a
few
weeks
away
from
being
able
to
bring
that
forward?.
K
E
J
E
J
Well,
that's
the
kind
of
information
I
like
before.
We
get
to
the
point
of
voting
on
this
because
that
kind
of
transparency,
obviously
we're
putting
taxpayers
dollars
in
this.
We
need
to
be
able
to
have
that.
So
what
you're
talking
about
mr
miss
sounds
good,
but
hopefully,
if
we
got
that
and
have
clear
understandings
on
that,
yeah
she'll
be
ready
to
vote
on.
E
B
A
Okay,
all
right
any
other
questions
we
can
move
on
along
to
okay,
we
have
number
three
and
four
we
can
take
those
together.
Both
of
those
are
on
consider
resolution
certifying
the
property
located
at
2221's
in
phillips
street
and
223's
in
phillips
street,
and
we
can
take
both
of
those
together
if
the
sole
committee
so
see
it.
K
K
But
it
it
just
requests
us
so
they're
asking
for
income
tax
credits
from
dor,
and
we've
done
this
before
with
this
committee.
But
there's
a
process
through
which
the
city
can
city
council
adopts
a
resolution
basically
certifying
that
they
qualify
as
abandoned
building
sites
and
therefore
that
portion
of
the
of
the
test
for
income
tax
credits
is
satisfied
and
what
I
typically
do
is
require
them
to
submit
an
affidavit
showing
that
it's
abandoned
by
under
the
legal
definition,
which
is
more
than
66.
K
At
least
66
of
it
has
been
unavailable
for
income
producing
purposes
and
vacant
for
the
last
five
years
and
that's
what
happened
in
this
case.
The
gentleman
who
submitted
it,
I
think,
lived
around
the
corner
and
said
neither
property
has
been
used
for
income
producing
purposes
over
the
last
five
years
and
submitted
this
request.
So
no.
A
Second,
okay,
it's
moving!
Second,
all
of
what
by
saying
aye,
aye,
aye,
aye
aye,
the
eyes
have
it
and
the
only
only
we
have
one
more
on
the
old
business
and
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
taken
up
by
city
council.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
really
have
to
do
a
big
discussion
on
that
rural
bridge
redevelopment
area
to
increment
finance
finance
allocation.
F
Council,
member
mitchell,
you
are
correct,
I
put
that
on
the
agenda,
because
it
was
my
understanding
that
we
were
going
to
cover
it
again
under
cd,
but
there
is
a
meeting
proposed
for
the
25th
of
this
month
to
have
a
more
exhaustive
discussion
with
regard
to
the
tif
allocations
and
what
we
did
want
to
mention
tonight.
However,
since
it
is
under
old
business,
there
is
one
other
project
that
we
would
want
to
include
and
want
your
consideration
of.
When
you
come
to
that
discussion.
F
It
is
a
minority
and
women
business
zone
incubator
that
would
possibly
be
located
in
the
james
lewis,
jr
ground
floor,
the
ground
floor
of
that
building,
and
so
several
team
members
are
on
the
call
who've
been
working
with
the
mayor
working
with
our
finance
team
to
discuss
this
matter,
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
ruth
just
to
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
project
to
the
city
committee,
so
that
you
can
be
aware
of
that
process
and
and
what
the
thought
process
is
behind
that.
As
you
make
those
considerations
later
in
the
month,.
L
We
understand
that
over
at
the
james
lewis's
buildings,
building
that
this
was
an
area
that
was
located
with
african
american
businesses
and
housing
and
they
were
displaced
as
a
result
of
the
bridge
and
so
creating
a
business
opera
opportunity,
an
incubator
to
establish
businesses
back
on
peninsula.
This
particular
incubator
is
approximately
7
600
square
feet.
L
It
will
also
have
office
space
similar
to
the
lumber
yard,
similar
to
other
incubator
space,
co-working
space
conference
rooms.
Private
offices
also
an
opportunity
for
retail
space,
approximately
200
to
300
square
feet,
retail
space,
where
we're
looking
at
possibly
putting
in
fortify
those
again.
That
will
be
there
with
african-american
businesses
and
minority
women-owned
businesses.
L
The
developer,
as
I
said
earlier,
plastic
and
flat
iron,
is
prepared
and
they're
putting
together
the
legal
documents
with
the
intent
to
give
that
property
to
the
city.
However,
they're
delivering
that
currently
in
a
dark
shell
space,
however,
we're
hoping
that
they
can
provide
that
to
a
warm
shell,
but
we
do
need
to
have
funding
for
the
design
because
they
have
to
have
the
result.
L
The
design
built
out
before
moving
on
and,
as
you
know,
the
james
island
housing
complex
james
lewis,
housing
complex
is
about
to
break
ground
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
and
I
do
believe
that
they
found
some
money
amy's
on
the
phone.
The
taco
talk
about
where
we
can
possibly
get
some
money
money
for
design
and
I'll
stop.
There.
D
D
Hey
ruth,
I
mean,
mr
chairman,
I
really
I.
I
really
think
we
have
to
take
our
hats
off
to
miss
jordan
who
negotiated
this,
because
the
city
went
in
thinking
that
we
would
have
to
pay
for
that
space.
But
it
was
miss
jordan.
Who
said:
why
should
we
have
to
pay
anything
and
as
a
result
of
that-
and
I
don't
know
what
she
did-
they
came
back
and
said
okay,
so
I
really
think
we
need
to
take
our
hats
off
to
miss
jordan
and
the
work
that
she
has
done
in
that
regard.
A
D
E
E
Y'all
have
heard
those
terms
either
dark
coal
space
or
warm
vanilla
in
either
case,
we've
got
to
pay
for
the
improvements
and-
and
the
other
issue
is
that,
particularly
since
we're
looking
at
doing
some
restaurant
space
and
and
you
it'll,
be
on
the
ground
floor
of
this
building
that
they've
already
designed
and
have
a
building
permit.
We
need
to
go
ahead
in
very
short
order
to
go
ahead
and
get
an
architect
and
figure
out
where
the
pipes
are
going
to
come
up
and
all
through,
like
that.
E
E
So
we
talked
about
this
this
morning
and
it
is
in
a
tif
district,
but
amy
believes
we
have
some
reserve
funds
from
2018
or
2019
that
that
we
could
do
the
design
portion,
then
we'll
come
back
later
next
year
and
figure
out
whether
we'll
use
tiff
funds
or
not
for
the
build
out,
because
we
need
to
kind
of
move
pretty
quickly
on
on
getting
the
design
done.
So
that's
kind
of
oh
and
one
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention.
E
F
A
G
I
just
yeah.
I
want
to
definitely
thank
the
the
good
good
good
cop
women,
bad
cop
women.
However,
you
need
to
do
your
job
just
keep
doing
it.
I
I
I
know
many
of
us
have
set
in
on
the
variety
of
the
commission
on
equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation
subcommittees,
but
the
economic
empowerment
committee
has
has
especially
I
mean
ruth-
has
been
a
faithful
staff
representative
to
that
committee,
along
with
meg
thompson
chris,
and
I
think
you
know
they've
known
that
this
has
been
in
the
works.
G
G
O
A
Okay,
all
righty
in
that
area
I'll
be
working
with
mr
benjamin
and
tnt
so
far
as
the
parking
is
concerned,
because
we
had
some
problems
there
and
I'm
working
on
with
him
now,
but
we'll
work
on
it.
Some
more
in
that
area
to
see
what
we
as
a
city
can
do
to
contain
that
particular
area,
because
we
had
that
area
contained
before.
But
now
we
have
people
just
from
the
other
buildings
parking
in
that
area,
taking
it
over
and
be
so
we're
going
to
be
working
on
that.
D
D
But
it's
already
been
drafted
by
our
legal
department
and
I
think
it's
ready
to
come
to
us
for
a
review.
Okay
and
perhaps
at
our
next
meeting,
are
the
following
cd
meeting,
which
is
probably
better
because
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
small
document,
guys
okay
review
yeah.
So
I
just
wanted
everybody
to
know
that
that
is
coming
for
this
committee
to
review
and
make
recommendations
to
the
committee
of
the
whole.
F
A
G
G
G
We
began
to
look
at
the
east
river
bridge
tiff
list
and
at
that
time
the
mayor
and
ms
wharton
educated
us
that
there
were
still
you
know
several
hundred
thousand
dollars,
not
millions
by
any
stretch
but
but,
as
I
recall,
like
550
000
or
in
the
ballpark
there
out
of
the
existing
tif
that
that
is
not
designated
for
anything
and
we,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
that
could
potentially
be
awarded.
Or
you
know.
G
However,
we
would
do
it
to
the
low-lying
venture
getting
off
the
ground
in
terms
of
knowing
that
they've
got
a
lot
of
engineering
costs.
They
need
to
start
working
on
we're
going
to
get
serious
about
helping
them
put
a
shovel
in
the
ground
by
the
end
of
the
year
as
they
as
they've
been
promising
their
investors
and
their
supporters.
G
So
I
I
was
hoping
maybe
I
could
make
a
motion
to.
I.
I
think
the
mayor
said
at
the
time
that
we
can't
have
the
the
lowline
couldn't
have
the
whole
500
and
some
thousand,
but
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
authorize
or
ask
the
mayor
in
the
finance
office
to
establish
a
an
mou
or
an
extension
of
our
mou
or
whatever
legally.
G
We
have
to
do
in
order
to
transfer
350
000
out
of
those
existing
remaining
undesignated
funds
from
the
current
tif
the
current
bond
and
and
make
sure
that
it's
dedicated
exactly
to
what
we
all
know
are
those
first
engineering
functions
that
they
need
to
undertake.
I
recall
a
survey
and
I
I
don't
know
what
else,
but
I
that's
my
motion.
The.
A
Conference
comes
from
jackson,
we
were
going
to
this
was
coming
up
in
the
in
the
big
council
coming
up
coming
up
with
the
no
with
the
with
that
pertaining
to
that
at
council,
but
even
that,
looking
at
that,
I'm
gonna
carry.
You
know,
call
for
the
motion,
but
looking
at
that,
we
also
have
the
the
smoke
stack
that
we
still
have
to
deal
with
with
780,
whatever
the
figure
it
is.
A
So
that's
what
they
were
looking
at
too
to
see
if
we're
going
to
have
all
that
money,
because
we
still
have
to
come
with
that
money
with
for
the
the
interior
of
the
smoke
stack
and
that's
a
big
portion
of
money
coming
from
the
tif
you
see.
So
I
don't
know
if
we're
gonna
have
that
money,
the
three
hundred
thousand
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
and
just
throwing
it
out
there.
I
don't
know
if
the
mayor
would
have
anything
to
say
about
that.
But
I'll
carry
the
motion.
A
A
G
Yes,
that
that
that
the
cd
committee
recommend
use
of
the
undesignated
portion
of
the
of
the
current
east
east
river
bridge
tiff
redevelopment
area
tiff
to
be
awarded
to
the
friends
of
the
low
line
or
whoever
we
would
hire
as
part
of
an
agreement
to
begin
the
engineering
work
so
that
they
can
get
started
with.
I
know
it's
a
survey,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
other
engineering
work
needs
to
be.
J
I
J
But
when
we're
there,
then
we
can
ask
those
specific
kind
of
questions.
If
the
little
line
belongs
to
the
city,
our
capital
projects
department
should
be
having
those
bids
on
engineering
services.
Okay,
they
need
to.
They
actually
need
to
be
sending
the
bids
out.
For
that.
How
do
we
know
that
the
bids
are
competitive
matter
of
fact?
How
do
we
know
that
the
prices
are
competitive?
We
haven't
even
seen
any
bids
our
people
who
are
trained
to
do
that.
J
Hadn't
seen
those
bits
I
just
want
to
be
able
to
get
the
work
done
at
a
competitive
means
above
board,
so
everybody
can
have
a
clear
fluid
understanding
on
it
when
these
dollars
flow
from
the
taxpayers.
In
conjunction
with
the
friends
of
the
loan
line,
those
bids
are
being
brought
in
on
a
competitive
basis
and
hopefully
overseen
by
a
capital
projects
department
by
the
city.
J
We've
got
the
experience
to
do
something
like
that.
So
now
we're
going
to
make
a
motion
to
spend
money
and
we
don't
even
know
the
exacts
of
what
the
money's
going
to
be
used
for,
and
we
don't
know
whether
the
objective
or
the
smoke
stacks
are
going
to
be
fulfilled
or
not
just
too
many
unknowns,
so
I'll
be
voting
against
it.
E
So
so
I
was
going
to
kind
of
say
the
same
thing
I
mean
if
you
want
to
add,
subject
to
an
acceptable
memorandum
of
understanding
between
the
two
of
us
and-
and
you
know,
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
long
time,
so
I
hate
to
use
the
expression,
maybe
the
carts
a
little
before
the
horse.
I
mean
we're
almost
there
he's
going
to
send
the
agreement
next
tomorrow
or
next
week,
and
I
don't
know
how
long
it'll
take
chip
and
them
to
figure
it
out.
E
But
those
are
exactly
the
kinds
of
things
councilmember
waring
is
mentioning
that
should
be
outlined
in
this
agreement
and
and
I'm
all
for
empowering
the
friends
of
the
lowline
to
do
a
good
bit
of
this
design,
engineering
and
construction.
As
long
as
we're
comfortable,
you
know
that
they're
following
our
practices
and
we
have
authority
of
decision
making
and
all
those
kinds
of
things-
and
I
know
they
don't
they
don't
object
to
all
that
kind
of
thing.
E
But
I
I
think
we
do
need
that
in
place
and
that's
tom
says
he's
got
it
coming
to
us
soon.
Now,
just
as
a
practical
matter,
I
I
do
agree
with
that
outstanding
question
mark
about
the
what
might
be
needed.
In
addition
for
the
first
part
of
the
smokestacks
that
we
we
should
use
this
balance
of
of
the
first
bond
in
order
to
get
the
design
and
engineering
go
going.
E
So
I'm
totally
in
agreement
with
that
and
then,
when
we
issue
the
bigger
bond
later
this
year,
we'll
talk
about
how
that
gets,
prioritized
and
so
much
for
flooding
and
so
much
for
housing
and
so
much
for
parks.
You
know,
but,
but
I
think
we're
almost
there
respectfully
council
member
jackson,
and
I
would
ask
that
we
let
this
agreement
come
on
to
chip
and
and
and
and
and
and
make
a
definite,
more
definitive
motion
on
this
at
at
the
next
meeting
or
when
we
bring
it
to
council.
G
E
E
G
E
A
M
M
Would
have
been
a
record,
but
I
couldn't
help
myself
listen.
I
think
you
know
a
lot
of
great
points
have
been
made
on
this
issue.
I
think
that
it's
important
that
we
send
a
clear
signal
of
support
and
we
get
this
this
low
line
moving,
but
at
the
same
time
I
I
can't
argue
with
councilman
waring's
logic.
We
need
to
have
it
buttoned
up.
We
need
to
do
it
in
the
right
way.
It's
taxpayer
money.
We
need
to
do
it
the
right
way.
M
I
would
only
say
that
you
know
I
I
I
know
andy
and
chip
very
well
they're,
both
outstanding
lawyers,
if,
for
whatever
reason,
this
very
complicated
comprehensive
document
is
some
how
not
ready
for
prime
time
march
25th,
maybe
we
might
be
able
to
explore
a
more
maybe
a
skinnier
document
specifically
related
to
some.
Maybe
this
first,
you
know
use
of
funds
for
for
some
of
the
design
and
engineering
work.
In
other
words,
we
can.
M
We
can
take
a
bite,
size
approach
in
the
interest
of
time
and
the
interest
of
moving
things
forward.
Now,
hopefully,
the
agreement
gets
all
worked
out.
We
can
do
the
whole
thing
at
once.
I
think
that'd
be
ideal,
but
I
think
that
you
know
this
is
this
is
a
grand
project.
This
is
a
grand
effort,
it's
a
catalyst
for
the
tiff,
it's
a
big
deal
and
we
need
to.
We
need
to
show
that
commitment
to
this
effort
and
you
know
weather's
getting
warm
springs
here.
E
So
if
I
could
add
one
more
thought
than
mr
chair
on
that
to
follow
up
on
councilmember
rappel,
if
chip
gets
this
thing
next
week
and
says,
oh,
my
goodness,
this
is
going
to
take
us
a
while.
We
could
do
an
amendment
to
the
existing
agreement
that
we
have
with
them
just
to
cover
this
one
piece
to
get
it
going.
Does
that
sound
like
a
good
kind
of
compromise
or
idea.
M
A
G
G
I
agree
that
you
know
we
don't
want
to
have
any
any
shades
of
gray
on
this
issue,
but
I
do
feel
like
this
is
a
small
amount
of
money
in
the
big
scheme
and
we
need
to
give
give
at
least
that
kind
of
tangible
support
so
that
people
can
understand
who
are
watching
this
project,
hoping
that
they
can
be
players
and
participants
and
wanting
the
city
to
make
some
little
toe
in
the
water
move.
So
that
was
my
point.
I'm
happy
to
wait
and
I'm
happy
to
support
whatever
comes
forward
on
the
25th.
A
So
that's
what
I'm
saying,
because
I
don't
want
to
go
back
to
the
to
my
district
when
they
said.
Okay,
we
support
this
east
side
tip
for
this
district
and
the
thing
is
not
you
know
it's
not
being
used
where
it's
supposed
to
be,
then
I'm
going
to
be
in
a
real
trouble
and
the
city
going
to
be
the
real
trouble,
because
they'll
be
coming
fighting
fighting
fighting
back
and
beating
up
everyone
there.
So
I'm
trying
to
keep
this
thing
in
a
proper
perspective.
A
That's
all
I'm
doing
you
know,
since
the
east
side
tip
was
coming
because
the
east
side
tip
was
started
only
for
housing
when
we
first
voted
in
and
then
we
added
storm
water
to
the
drainage.
We
added
that
to
the
tip,
because
that
wasn't
a
part
of
the
tip
in
the
beginning.
So
now
we
are
going
further
and
doing
something
else,
and
I
know
the
low
line
is
gonna,
be
a
beautiful
project.
It's
gonna
be
a
project.
A
E
Mr
chairman,
I
do
want
to
respectfully
remind
you,
we
call
it
the
cooper
river
bridge
redevelopment
area
and
it
it.
This
is
where
the
cooper
river
bridges
used
to
be
right:
let's
go
over
to
the
east
side
to
pick
up
the
cigar
factory
and
that
new
development
down
on
east
bay,
but
that
was
intentionally
to
pick
up
those
commercial
developments.