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City of Charleston Committee on Community Development 8/27/2020
A
So
I
believe
we
do
have
a
quorum.
B
Okay,
keith
is
counseling
wearing,
is
not
here
yet
right.
A
B
All
right,
I'm
going
to
call
the
community
developing
community
committee
meeting
to
order
it's
now
approximately
4
31.
B
C
Thank
you,
lord.
We,
we
ask
your
presence
here
today
with
all
of
these
fine
people.
I
look
forward
to
the
the
work
that
is
being
done
in
the
service
of
our
community.
C
Thank
you
for
all
of
the
hands
and
the
feet
where
we
are
not
able
to
go,
especially
in
these
days
of
the
virus
and
the
expectations
that
people
have
and
and
legitimately
to
be
cared
for
and
served
in
ways
that
we
would
appreciate
your
assistance
to
allow
us
to
do
that.
We
ask
these
things
in
your
name,
amen,.
B
Amen,
thank
you
very
much,
but
we're
gonna
move
right
along.
We
have
a
coup,
quite
a
few
things
on
the
agenda
and
we're
gonna
try
to
keep
it
moving
as
possible,
but
giving
everyone
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
if
we
have
it
so.
The
first
thing
we
have
is
the
rental
assistance
demonstration,
which
is
the
right
program
that
would
be
by
mr
john
cameron,
who's,
the
executive
director
of
city
housing
authority.
B
Then,
second,
we
have
the
friends
of
the
low-lying
community
outreach,
education
and
that
will
be
by
mr
tom,
thomas
bradford
and
megan
mills.
And
thirdly,
we
have
the
laura
island
development
by
robert
clements
and
his
staff,
so
we're
gonna
move
it
right
in
that
order.
So
we
can
keep
it
just
keep
it
moving
as
quickly
as
possible.
We
possibly
can
so.
Your
first
album
is
to
don
cameron
with
the
rental
assistance
program.
D
Maybe
rental
assistance
program
is
the
only
program
that
hud
has
to
sustain,
affordable
housing
and
that
is
taking
public
housing
developments,
moving
it
to
a
financial
platform
whereby
they
will
contract
with
housing
authorities
to
support
people
who
are
the
low-income
character
equal
to
the
number
in
public
housing,
same
methodology
for
20
years,
renewable
at
the
local
option
for
a
further
20
year
period.
So
it's
kind
of
besides
being
the
only
ball
game
at
the
federal
level,
it
is
the
best
game
that
is
currently
available.
D
The
other
thing
I
would
add,
is
currently
public
housing
is
funded
by
appropriations
directly
from
the
congress.
We
have
not
been
funded
at
100
for
operating
or
capital
for
the
past
10
years.
So
this
is
the
first
time
we're
going
to
have
an
assurance
of
funding
under
contractual
obligations
so
that
we
can
plan
off
into
the
future.
The
other
part
that's
important
is
until
we
go
to
the
rad
program.
D
We
are
prevented
from
mortgaging
or
using
any
of
our
public
housing
assets
as
collateral
or
liens,
to
borrow
money
to
renovate
or
to
extend
the
useful
life
of
the
current
properties.
So
that's
kind
of
the
60
000
foot
overview
and
I'll
be
happy.
If
y'all
contact
me
to
give
you
more
information
at
any
time,
but
an
update
is
on
october
24th
hud
notified
us.
D
They
had
accepted
our
application
and
approved
us
to
go
forward
with
the
development
of
a
actual
process,
and
that
process
involves
looking
at
all
the
public
housing
sites
that
we
own,
making
a
determination
whether
or
not
they
should
be
preserved
as
good,
affordable
housing,
often
to
the
future.
And
if
the
answer
is
yes,
how
are
we
going
to
do
that?
If
the
answer
is
no,
which
is
called
repositioning,
then
hud
wanted
to
know.
D
How
are
we
going
to
reposition
that
particular
asset
to
both
protect
the
people
who
currently
live
there,
but
also
increase
the
amount
of
affordable
housing
in
the
community
december
of
2019?
The
housing
authority
had
a
workshop
with
his
consultants,
its
board
and
senior
staff.
Out
of
it
came
a
number
of
priorities,
the
first
priority
being
a
finalization
that
kiawah
homes,
which
is
61
units
in
the
wagner,
terrace
neighborhood
meeting
street
manor,
which
is
201
units
on
the
upper
east
side.
D
So
we've
been
moving
on
those
three
to
finalize
in,
in
a
manner
the
performers
and
the
structure
of
how
to
preserve
those
houses,
how
to
invest
forty
to
sixty
thousand
dollars
in
renovation,
and
that
is
something
we're
working
on
I'll
explain
more
as
we
move
forward
in
february
of
2020,
we
had
a
second
workshop
with
the
board
and
with
senior
staff
we've
refined
the
process.
D
D
Five
and
six
and
seven
story
buildings
on
both
eugene
street
and
also
adjacent
to
it
and
around
it
on
yuja
street
by
palmetto
brewery.
Coming
back
to
what
will
be
the
development
of
573
for
180
ministry,
and
also
that
we
should
look
at
coop
river
courts,
which
is
216
units
east
and
west.
Now,
north
and
south,
I'm
sorry
of
sanders,
clyde
boarded
by
morrison
drive
where
morrison
yards
is
being
built
and
america
street,
but
it
also
makes
a
left-hand
turn
and
comes
up
stewart
street
behind
taco
boy.
D
The
flooding
issue
has
gotten
worse
and
is
actually
coming
up
south
street
and
involving
more
buildings
and
going
up
down
drake
street.
So
again,
that's
another
one
for
consideration
and
all
of
the
other
assets
that
we
have
still
have
to
be
assessed,
but
those
are
the
ones
in
the
immediate
view
of
the
board
and
the
staff.
D
From
that
we
decided
there
were
a
number
of
actions
we
needed
to
take
the
the
first
was
we
needed
to
engage
underwriters
and
investment
partners
for
kiawah
homes
that
was
accomplished
in
june
of
this
year
that
we
needed
to
retain
borrowers
council
that
was
done
in
june
of
this
year.
We
currently
have
under
consideration
a
e
services
for
kiawah
homes
to
be
finalized
within
the
next
two
weeks.
D
D
D
We
also
have
recorded
that
and-
and
we
should
have
that
up
on
our
website
within
the
next
two
weeks
and
available
to
all
the
residents
who
could
not
attend
people,
the
12
families
living
at
ug
street.
D
The
201
families
at
meeting
street
manor
should
get
a
similar
type
of
notice
before
the
end
of
september
and
with
both
the
ug
street
residents
and
the
201
at
meeting
street,
we
will
begin
setting
up
meetings
during
the
month
of
september
and
october
again,
small
numbers,
but
also
try
to
get
information
out
as
well.
As
answer
your
question
and
answer
period
and
again,
the
information
will
be
posted
on
our
website
so
that
people
will
be
able
to
access
it.
D
I
wanted
to
emphasize.
I
guess
that,
even
though
coveted
hit
shortly
after
we
had
a
meeting
with
the
mayor
and
the
planning
department
back
in
march
about
all
the
sites
and
about
studying
them
with
regard
to
zoning
height
restrictions,
changes
in
the
neighborhood
that
we've
not
paused
the
rad
process,
which
I
think
is
for
your
benefit,
very
important-
that
we
haven't
sat
around
and
waited
for
kobe
to
get
better
before
moving
forward
on
all
these
things,
I'm
trying
to
remember.
I
think
that
really
brings
you
in
a
quick
and
dirty
sense.
D
Oh,
there
is
one
other
thing.
The
housing
authority
on
the
developments
to
be
preserved
had
had
made
the
decision
that
we're
going
to
be
our
own
developer
that
we're
not
going
to
turn
it
over
to
development
partners.
D
At
the
same
time,
last
fall
the
state,
housing,
finance
and
development
agency
published
its
qualified
action
plan
for
2021
and
in
that
it
required
for
development
experience
to
have
low
income
housing
tax
credit
experience
within
the
last
several
years.
Housing
authority
has
a
tremendous
amount
of
affordable
housing
development
experience,
but
not
tax
credit
experience
locally
and
not
in
the
last
several
years.
We
and
a
lot
of
other
people
with
support
ask
the
state
to
amend
its
qap
to
consider
our
development
experience
and
that
of
other
housing
authorities
like
greenville,
colombia
and
spartanburg.
D
D
We've
been
so
notified
at
the
end
of
july
that,
based
upon
our
submission
and
with
the
experience
of
our
consultants,
that
they
would
look
favorably
upon
that
submission,
which
is,
I
think,
a
major
accomplishment
to
us
moving
forward.
Having
said
that,
on
properties
that
we
reposition
like
ug
street,
the
housing
authority
will
not
be
the
developer,
we
will
have
an
ownership
interest,
we
will
retain
ownership
of
the
property.
D
D
B
I
want
to
ask
a
quick
question:
first:
are
you
adding
any
units
to
those
developments,
that's
going
to
be
proposed.
D
The
they
one
on
ug
street,
we
expected
to
add
between
38
and
48
units
and
in
the
draft
rfq
we're
putting
together.
There
are
no
market
rate
units,
they're
all
affordable
and
we're
stating
in
what
income
groups
are.
We
would
have
as
goals.
We
will
see
what
developers
come
back,
but
we
definitely
want
it
all
to
be
affordable.
B
Anyone
who's
got
any
questions.
Yes,
chairman
excuse
me,
I
miss,
I
miss
we
well.
We
have
a
conference
jackson.
Then
council,
member
sacrum,
you
have
a
question
right
after
I'm
concerned.
Oh
okay,
councilwoman's
accent
go
right
ahead.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
cameron.
It's
really
good
to
have
you
and
I
would
definitely
support
you
coming
more
often,
especially
as
you're
in
the
you
know,
momentous
that
your
that
your
board
has
been
so,
I
think
you
know
very
doing
their
due
diligence
and
careful
to
be
putting
together
as
an
action
plan,
and
I
that
you
I
took
my
call
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
allowed
me
to
ask
some
more
detailed
questions.
I
I
just
I
was
writing
too
fast.
C
D
C
07.,
and
so
when
you,
when
you
apply
to
the
rad
just
to
clarify
for
people,
are
you
required
to
put
all
of
those
1400
units
into
red
eventually,
or
would
you
be
able
to?
You
know,
keep
some
in
the
current
framework
of
the
contract
you
have
with
hud
just
so
we
know
the
parameters.
D
It
it
is
to
that
we
start
out
with
1407
end
with
14-7
now,
within
that
I
have
to
say
part
of
that
could
be
one
option
that
people
have
who
leave
with
us
right
now
is
they
can
take
a
housing
choice,
voucher,
section,
8
and
if
they
choose
not
the
housing
card,
but
if
they
chose
that
they
wanted
to
move
to
another
location.
D
C
And
then,
and
then
what
I,
what
I
didn't
write
down
correctly,
I'm
sure
was
you
were
talking
about
the
the
contract
that
now
you've
successfully
achieved
with
hud
to
deliver
your
properties
under
the
rad
program.
Let's
just
call
it,
it
has
a
20-year
retention
of
the
affordable
units
with
a
20-year
to
extend,
or
can
you
just
verify
those.
D
That's
correct:
this
is
the
first
time
hud
has
done
that
made
a
significant
long-term
contractual
obligation.
D
Don't
know
I
I
would
I
I
would
hope
that
the
local
community
would
want
to
maintain
it
as
affordable
housing,
and
hopefully
the
federal
government
still
has
an
interest
in
supporting
that
effort,
and
I
should
mention
too
that,
on
these
a
lot
of
these
properties
as
we
develop
them,
we
will
use
four
percent
tax
credits.
So
when
we
use
four
percent
tax
credits,
investors
will
provide
a
lot
of
the
equity
that
we
use
for
the
rehab
when
those
tax
benefits
expire
in
general,
investors
of
tax
credits
want
to
get
out
from
under
that.
D
At
that
time,
the
housing
authority
will
be
positioned
to
buy
out
the
interest
of
these
equity
partners,
which
will
again
re
return
it
to
public
stewardship.
So
that
the
point
being,
is
that
number
one
it
will
return
to
public
stewardship
before
that
20-year
and
40-year
period,
but
also
when
that
20
and
40-year
period
come
up,
the
federal
government
will
be
dealing
with
the
housing
authority,
a
public
entity
not
with
a
partnership,
which
I
think
will
be
helpful.
C
Well
whoever's
younger
than
me,
ms
jones,
and
everyone
on
the
call
is
basically
younger
than
I
am.
I
want
you
to
put
a
calendar
day
of
40
years.
I'm
gonna
go
for
it
to
support
the
charleston
housing
authority
right
chairman
mitchell,.
B
I
don't
know
I
got
some
reservation
bill
anyway,
even
with
all
the
home
yeah,
even
all
the
housing
that's
going
on,
I
got
to
be
very
careful
with
it
because
all
the
housing
most
of
the
complexes
are
in
the
district
I
represent,
which
is
meeting
street
manor
steward
street
and
all
over
the
east
side.
B
And
you
know
I
got
to
look
at
very
seriously
of
what's
going
to
be
happening
and
what's
going
to
be
happening
to
the
people
and
how
it
generates
that
the
people
that's
leaving
if
they
have
to
leave
and
what's
going
to
happen,
if
they're
going
to
be
just
diversity,
there
you're
not
going
to
have
it
anymore,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
energy.
That
really
looked
at.
B
Look
at
that
in
looking
at
all
of
this-
and
I
know
hud
is
changing
a
lot
worked
with
them
all
33
years,
and
so
I
know
they
have
changed,
but
we
still
have
to
look
at
people
how
they're
going
to
have
this
diversity
in
the
community
when
we
get
rid
of
all
these
people
that
have
to
leave,
and
so
that's
that's
something.
That's
kind
of
mind-boggling
to
me
and
I'm
I'm
looking
at
that
seriously.
I
think
cos
mcgregor
you
had
you
had
your
hands
up.
E
I
did
yes,
okay
yeah.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
don
and
if
we
can
use
hugh
g
street
as
an
example
to
set
275
hugey
street
yeah
sure
currently
12
units
it
will
be
repositioned
is
what
we're
calling
it.
E
E
E
Right,
they
won't
be
subsidized,
but
you'd
be
able
to
net
at
least
one
unit.
I
think
I
heard
you
say
that
would
be
section
8
from.
D
E
Okay,
all
right,
so
those
units
will
totally
be
demolished.
How
will
we
use
the
shelves.
D
D
E
D
D
Manner
no
meeting
street
will
be
preserved,
we'll
invest
between
40
and
60
thousand
dollars
per
unit
in
that
in
those
renovations,
but
they'll
be
so
substantial
that
the
people
cannot
live
there
during
the
renovation
period.
E
Okay,
so
there
will
be
and
I'm
getting
back
to
the
chairman's
point
there
will
be
and
I
hate
to
use
the
term
massive
relocation
potentially.
D
E
D
E
B
Okay,
I
want
next
to
ask
another
quick
question,
mr
cameron.
I
remember
the
the
275
history
was
built.
B
It
wasn't
to
me
that
long
ago,
because
I
moved
and
then
I
stayed
in
there
for
one
year,
and
that
was
one
that
was
part
of
the
scattered
cycle
for
me
when
we
first
started
that
huge
street
line
street
and
couple
of
others
when
we
came
up
with
the
scattered
sites
to
try
to
put
units
in
the
community
and
to
me
it
was
what
that
was
built
back
in
what
in
the
80s,
83,
83
and
so
to
me
was
a
young.
B
D
F
Go
ahead
chairman
and
thank
you
don
for
coming
today
and
giving
us
the
update-
and
you
kind
of
alluded
to
this
when
you
were
responding
to
councilmember
gregory,
but
I
was
going
to
ask
you
just
to
take
kiowa
homes.
As
an
example,
I
mean
you
you're,
apparently
getting
ready
to
start
on
the
renovation
you've,
given
notices
started
having
meetings.
So
it's
is
that
a
case
where
you
say
a
lot
of
relocations.
D
Yeah
kayla
homes
is
61
families,
they're
all
two
and
three
bedroom
units
on
the
site.
There's
no
ones
there's
no
force.
We
probably
will
have
to
move
10
families
empty
five
buildings
for
the
construction
phasing,
those
10
families.
Their
first
option
will
be
a
section
8
voucher
again,
that's
their
choice.
D
D
After
those
five
buildings
are
completed
or
as
they're
being
completed
and
accepted
each
building.
At
a
time,
families
who
live
in
space,
two
phase,
three
phase
four-
will
move
hopscotch
around.
If
you
will
phasing
in
staying
on
the
property
when
we
get
down
to
the
very
last
stage.
D
Those
first
families
will
have
the
option
to
move
back
in
if
they
chose
not
to
move
back
in
that
will
free
those
units
up
possibly
for
people
from
mating
street
or
from
hoop
river
court
or
ut
street
or
some
other
site
to
move
in
some
people
would
will
take
the
option
of
the
section
eight
assistants.
I
mean.
F
Right
so
you're
you're
in
effect,
gonna,
have
this
rolling
inventory
of
units
that
will
be
under
renovation
and
and
even
though
over
time
it
might
be
a
lot
of
relocation
at
any
one
time.
It
shouldn't
be
a
lot.
It
should
be
a
reasonable
number
and
those
folks
would
always
have
the
opportunity
to
come
back
after
the
units
are,
are
improved
and
read
correct.
D
That
that's
correct
and
I
think
that's
a
good
way
of
doing
it.
You're
saying
it
is
that
at
any
one
time
we
shouldn't
have,
let's
just
use
the
number
50.,
maybe
it'll
be
20
or
30
families
at
any
given
time
that
will
be
moving,
but
it
shouldn't
be
a
massive
number
as
a,
for
instance,
just
looking
ahead.
B
One
more
question,
mr
cameron,
even
when,
if
these
people
decide
to
take
the
the
voucher
program
that
go
into
the
section
8
voucher,
I
don't
know
how
to
change,
but
it
used
to
only
be
60
days
to
go
out
and
find
another
dwelling
place
and
to
me,
but
I
know
as
well.
You
know,
while
working
mr
cameron
and
I
go
way
back,
but
people
couldn't
find
places
for
what
the
voucher
or
sexually
was
for
so
that
you
know.
B
It
kind
of
scares
me
that
these
people,
if
they
lose
their
sex,
mate
certificate
about
her
and
because
that's
what
they
accept.
B
What's
going
to
happen
to
them
in
the
in
the
interim,
because
they
already
accepted
that
and
they
are
coming
back,
they
want
to
take
the
section
8
certificate,
our
voucher,
wherever
the
case
may
be,
and
they
don't
find
a
place
in
60
days,
they're
out,
they're,
homeless,.
D
To
me,
yeah,
let
me
mention
on
the
voucher.
It's
really
two
components.
The
first
component
is
initial
relocation,
so
the
renovation
or
the
demolition
or
whatever
it
is.
The
work
can
be
done
that
time
period
is
90
days
instead
of
60
that
they
either
find
some
place
where
they
go
to
the
public
housing
unit.
If
they
decide
that
they
want
to
permanently
relocate
someplace,
they
have
180
days
on
that
bathroom
and
also
one
of
our
staff.
B
D
B
B
E
Generally,
don
folks
don't
go
back.
Am
I
correct
in
most
of
these
instances
I
mean
what
and
I'm
talking
about
a
national
trend
that
generally,
when
people
relocate
this
place,
they
don't
go
back
to
the
unit,
that's
not
to
say
that
the
need
is
we
have.
We
have
hundreds
and
hundreds
on
the
waiting
list
in
order
to
have
that
have
a
need
that
could
also
go
in
those
units,
but
generally
people
don't
come
back.
Am
I
correct.
E
E
D
E
What
is
our
turnover
rate
and
will
you
be
able
to
squeeze
in
any
wealth
creation
opportunities
for
folks?
Will
any
of
them
be
able
to
get
a
choice,
voucher
and
perhaps
use
their
section
8
subsidy
to
to
buy.
E
The
first
question
is
the
wealth
creation
question
for
me.
Okay,
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
that
we
do
enough
of
that
through
the
public
housing
authority
process
and-
and
I
know
why-
one
affordability
on
a
lot
of
units
out
there-
that
people
could
use
their
choice
voucher
for
to
buy.
E
But
I
guess
I'm
asking
whether
or
not
we
will
have
the
opportunity
through
the
rad
program
through
some
type
of
subsidy,
perhaps
working
with
the
city,
to
make
some
of
the
home
ownership
opportunities
affordable,
like
we've
done
as
a
city
in
other
places.
I
just
think
it
is
very
important
if
we
do
this
kind
of
massive
redevelopment
that
something
has
to
come
out
of
it
to
make
sure
that
the
people
have
an
opportunity
to
own
a
home
and
using
their
federal
subsidy,
okay
to
help
them
to
buy
the
unit.
D
Yes,
we
we
have
two
programs,
we
have
a
section
of
homeownership
program,
we've
got
about
18
families
involved
in
it,
and
we've
got
a
family
sufficiency
program
where
we've
got
about
62
families
involved
in
it,
and
we
have
a
staff
person
dedicated
specifically
to
that
that
that
would
include
these
families
if
they
chose
to
take
a
voucher.
Yes,.
D
Well,
I
I
believe
most
people
gonna
do
that
because
they
like
where
they
live.
They
like
the
neighborhood
location,
transportation,
everything
about
it,
but
under
the
hunt
program
it
is
an
option
that
people
have
to
know
they
have.
Okay,
truthfully,
I
don't
think
a
great
number
of
people
will
take
advantage
of
it
just
because
of
the
costs
in
our
area.
I
Questions
yeah,
mr
chairman,
this
keith
wearing
I'm
gonna
speak.
B
I
Trying
to
come
on
the
zoom
link,
but
I
guess,
can
anybody
answer
this
question
of
the
city's
program
that
we
used
in
ashleyville
to
help
people
buy
home
the
subsidy
that
we
put
in
canape
match
with
the
voucher
program
that
mr
cameron's
talking
about
to
help
people
with
you
know
down
payment
and
the
like
to
acquire
the
house.
B
I
can
let
my
miss
johnson
answer
it,
but
I
believe
it's
going
to
be
pertaining
to
their
income
wise.
What
they're,
making
and
credit
wise
just
still
have
to
go
through
the
same
procedures,
but
they
still
have
to
meet
that
income.
Guideline
too,
and.
I
D
D
J
It
does
not
so
the
only
challenge
I
see
in
getting
folks
into
those
homes,
councilmember
wary
would
be
to
make
sure
they
can
qualify
for
a
mortgage.
The
home
initiative
program
literally
starts
at
50
percent.
Am
I
up
to
120
percent,
but
they
will
have
to
be
able
to
qualify
for
a
mortgage
permanent
subsidy
that
we
leave
in.
That
house
would
be
available
to
them
to
reduce
what
they
have
to
finance.
I
E
And,
and
and
councilman
wearing
the
family
self-sufficiency
program,
of
which
the
the
housing
authority
has
is
a
program
that
helps
them
to
get
credit
worthy
help
them
to
try
to
save
some
money
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
don
save
some
money
toward
the
down
payment
as
well
as
assuring
that
they
have
employment
right.
So.
H
Thank
you
chairman,
miss
johnson.
You
mentioned
having
to
go
through
a
bank
or
mortgage.
Is
that
just
a
normal
bank,
and
is
that
something
that
we
could
help
navigate
that
through
for
for
these
potential
customers?
Or
is
there
a
special
bank
that
folks
are
applying
through.
J
No
sir,
we
have
banking
relationships
established,
of
course,
but
these
individuals
may
have
a
banker
that
they
deal
with
on
a
regular
basis
and
if
so,
they
can
certainly
pursue
them.
But
we
do
work
with
a
number
of
banks
in
our
community.
So
we
will
refer
those
clients
and
they
can
pursue
a
first
mortgage
from
a
bank
that
we
refer
unless
they
have
a
an
established
relationship.
H
J
So,
literally,
what
we
do
a
member
of
my
team
walks
them
through
what
we
call
a
pre-application
process
where
we
look
at
their
credit,
we
look
at
their
debt
to
income
ratio.
E
When
are
we
going
to
look
at
the
gadsden
green
community
for
rad.
D
F
D
B
K
A
Okay,
great
well,
thank
you
guys
so
much
thank
you
for
the
community
development
city,
council
and
the
mayor
for
having
us
today.
This
is
an
exciting
step
to
start
talking
to
present
to
you
today
and
also
start
this
dialogue.
A
I
my
name
is
megan
mills
and
I'm
a
board
member
of
the
lowline
and
also
the
outreach
chair
for
the
friends
of
the
lowline,
founded
in
2012
by
mike
messner
and
tom
bradford.
The
friends
of
the
lowcountry
low
line
are
working
alongside
the
city
of
charleston
to
put
together
a
plan
for
the
space
that
highlights
surrounding
neighborhoods,
addresses
city-wide
flooding
and
gives
pedestrians
and
bikers
a
safe,
dedicated
path.
A
This
future
park.
This
future
park
runs
north
south
along
the
spine
of
the
peninsula
for
the
former
railroad,
but
over
the
years
in
the
acquisition
and
planning
it
has
become
so
much
more
than
that.
It
has
the
potential
of
becoming
the
second
largest
park
on
the
peninsula
at
40
acres
and
can
be
a
space
for
bike
and
pedestrian
safety
working
with
the
development
side
of
the
lowline.
We
are
moving
forward.
A
We
have
completed
many
steps
to
show
the
importance
of
this
park
and
the
potential
it
has
with
the
help
of
scott
parker
of
design
works
and
alan
davis
of
the
civic
design
center.
We
have
completed
an
opportunity
plan.
Then
we
worked
with
kimley
horn
to
produce
studies
on
stormwater
in
a
cost
estimate,
and
then
alan
davis,
again
with
the
civic
design
center,
is
currently
working
on
an
implementation
plan
that
gives
us
a
roadmap
on
how
this
project,
when
broken
into
bite-sized
pieces,
can
really
come
together.
So
all
of
this
is
really
amazing.
A
Work
they've
done
an
amazing
job
showing
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
this
project
coming
together,
but
I
want
to
talk
about
the
people
who
will
use
the
park.
The
people
are
the
heart
of
every
park
and
the
lowline.
We
see
it
as
an
important
space
that
accommodates
everyone.
We
see
this
as
a
space
that
invites
co-creation,
meaning
that
people
from
all
different
backgrounds,
races
socioeconomic
status,
can
enjoy
and
make
their
space
their
own.
A
Since
I
have
joined
the
board
in
2016,
my
focus
has
been
the
neighborhoods
adjacent
to
the
low
line
and
making
sure
that
this
is
not
only
for
a
charleston
of
the
future,
but
for
its
current
residents
as
well.
Sorry,
so
in
the
past,
we've
done
a
few
tabling
events.
We've
done
a
few
trash
pickups
to
drum
up,
excitement
to
build
initial
awareness
and
they
were
pretty
successful.
A
But
now,
after
the
amazing
work
that
we
have
with
the
opportunity
plan
with
the
design
works
of
kimberly
horn
and
the
civic
design
center,
we
are
ready
for
a
new
type
of
engagement,
and
this
is
where
our
grassroots
comes
in.
So
this
is
a
small
snapshot
of
what
we've
been
doing
for
community
engagement,
we're
currently
at
518
surveys
completed.
We
are
passing
out
flyers
to
being
distributed
around
to
local
shops.
We
have
250
plus
door
hangers
going
out,
and
I
mean
we
have
more
going
for
that.
A
We're
also
working
on
partnerships,
so
that
is
really
huge
and
I'll
talk
about
that
a
little
later,
but
we're
partnering
and
we're
presenting
to
the
urban
land
institute.
The
lowcountry
local
first
charleston
promise
neighborhood
wagner
terrace
the
day
foundation
has
partnered
us
with
a
four-part
video
series.
We've
done
something
with
ohm
radio,
so
we're
really
trying
to
get
the
word
out,
and
so
in
march
of
2020,
we
were
ready
to
start
public
meetings,
but
obviously
2020
had
other
plans
as
we
encourage
people
to
stay
home
and
socially
distance.
A
We've
had
a
new
and
renewed
importance
of
park
space
and
being
outside.
So
we
launched
a
survey
to
capture
the
feedback.
We've
we've,
as
I've
said
before,
we've
only
had
about
508
18,
but
with
the
current
small
scope
we
have.
We
are
hearing
major
things
of
what
charleston
residents
want.
They
want
a
safe
space
with
lighting.
A
So
out
of
the
518,
we've
had
60
from
the
29403
zip
code
when
they
prompt
that
they
live
in
either
the
29403
and
the
29401.
Then
we
ask
follow-up
questions
so
64
of
them
own
their
houses
and
then
how
long
have
they
lived
in
the
peninsula?
So
it
ranges
from
about
one
to
five
years.
To
six.
A
To
ten
years
is
what
we're
mostly
seeing
the
average
age
there
is
we're
seeing
a
lot
from
the
25
to
34
age
group
majority
are
female
and
and
majority
are
white,
but
so
also
one
of
the
first
questions
that
we
ask
and
I
feel
like
this
is
most
important,
so
we
we
gave
them
ten
things
and
we
asked
them
to
rank
them
from
one
to
ten,
one
being
the
most
important
for
them.
A
This
was
all
of
these
are
obviously
important
markers
for
the
park,
but
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
highlighting,
which
one
is
really
most
important
for
them.
So
lighting
and
safety
is
obviously
a
clear
number
one
followed
by
bike
and
pedestrian.
Then
you
kind
of
see
the
middle.
You
know
they
all
have
different
kind
of
in
the
middle
flooding.
A
Improvements,
obviously,
is
is
one
f
and
b
options
are
somewhat
there,
but
one
thing
that
we
did
see
is
that
pet
focus
activities
are
not
a
priority,
so
that
was
good
to
know,
and
so
then,
when
you
break
up
this
park,
so
it
is
a
linear
park.
So
we've
broken
it
up
into
three
major
sections:
it's
called
the
urban
core,
the
park
area
and
then
the
the
north
central
corridor.
Each
of
them
are
going
to
have
their
own
personality.
A
We
don't
want
anyone
to
think
that
from
marion
square
to
mount
pleasant
street
is
going
to
be
the
same
park,
they're
going
to
look
and
feel
a
little
different.
So
when
we
we've
shown
each
picture
in
the
survey
and
then
ask
them
what
they
see
in
in
each
photo
or
in
each
section
of
the
park,
so
this
is
the
urban
core,
it's
from
marion
square
to
line
street,
so
this
obviously
was
very
high
of
alternative
route
to
king
street.
A
So
again
that
transportation
bathrooms
were
another
major
one
with
dining
and
gathering
space
right
behind
it.
But
people
were
strong
that
they
did
not
want
retail
shopping
there,
so
that
was
one
that
they
put
an
x
by
when
they
did
not
want
it.
Then
we
go
to
the
parks,
so
the
parks
is
pretty
much
from
line
street
all
the
way
to
grove
street.
These
have
two
big
parks.
Newmarket
creek
will
be
a
huge
space
for
storm
water
management.
We're
very
excited
for
that
and
then
also
the
low
line
park.
A
That's
going
to
be
the
widest
area,
so
the
most
most
green
space
we're
going
to
be
able
to
have
on
this
park.
So
obviously
we
heard
from
the
neighborhood
that
or
from
the
surveys
that
nature
trails
open
space
were
a
priority
large
event
space.
It
kind
of
you
know.
Some
people
did
not
want
that,
while
some
people
did
and
then
the
beer
garden
got
got
a
pretty
heavy.
No,
so
so
we've
we've
taken
that
feedback
and
then
finally,
the
north
central
corridor.
A
A
We
did
hear
obviously
strongly,
as
you
can
see,
that
access
to
public
transportation
is
pretty
important
for
everyone
and
that's
really
exciting,
because
it
does
match
up
to
the
mount
pleasant
street
park
and
ride
that
just
got
approved
and
we're
really
excited
to
be
partnering
with
a
low
country,
bus,
rapid
transit
in
the
future.
We
we
see
ourselves
as
partners
and
then
also
the
open
air
markets
that
looks
pretty
along
the
lines
of
what
we've
offered
in
the
opportunity
plan.
So
we're
really
excited
that
people
responded
well
to
that.
A
So
they
are
allowed
to
leave
comments
in
this.
We
are
getting
a
wide
range
of
comments,
but
when
we
we
dissect
them
into
plantings,
transportation,
water
and
recreation
and
we're
able
to
to
really
I
mean
we
go
through
all
of
these
things
and
we're
going
to
be
able
to
incorporate
this.
Take
this
from
the
opportunity
to
plan,
hopefully
to
a
master
plan
and
really
listen
to
the
the
neighborhood
in
the
community
when
they're
when
they
give
us
this
feedback.
A
But
when
talking
about
the
community,
we
cannot
steer
away
from
their
concerns
in
2017
realtor.com,
put
out
put
out
a
report
which
ranked
charleston
as
the
number
one
on
the
list
of
the
fastest
gentrifying
cities
in
the
u.s.
So
as
charleston
is
dealing
with
gentrification
on
the
peninsula.
Already,
we
have
learned
from
other
linear
parks
around
the
country
that
these
can
expedite
this
process.
Throughout
this,
the
city
of
charleston
and
the
friends
have
been
keenly
aware
of
this
issue.
A
There
are
two
parcels
adjacent
to
the
low
line
slated
for
affordable
housing
and
in
2020
the
city
of
charleston,
as
you
guys
know,
published
the
housing
for
affair
charleston,
which
maps
out
tools
like
funding,
education
planning
and
zoning
and
capacity
tools
that
can
help
use
our
current
neighbor
neighbors.
Excuse
me
again.
This
park
is
only
as
strong
as
its
our
partnerships
will
be
key,
we're
only
as
strong
as
our
neighbors,
so
we
need
to
work
with
many
organizations
as
possible
to
get
involved
in
this
project.
A
Another
concern
was
the
group's
already
using
the
underpass.
The
charleston
skating
community
has
a
diy
park
under
the
underpass,
which
has
huge
community
support
for
it
to
remain.
We
did
hear
that
very
strongly
throughout
the
surveys,
but
these
are
the
conversations
oh
and
so
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
show.
This
is
the
concerns
question
that
we
ask
on
the
the
surveys,
so
obviously
safety
seems
to
be
a
main
concern
for
everyone:
the
changing
neighborhoods.
It
really
did
range
between
being
a
main
concern
or
being
the
fifth
funding
is
in
there.
A
But
these
are
the
conversations
we
have
to
make
this
park
for
everyone.
We
want
a
high
level
park
that
is
equitable
for
all
people
and
in
the
times
we
are
in
now
we
should
have
a
greater
responsibility
to
make
the
best
park
for
charleston.
We
can
approach
development
with
the
acknowledgement
of
past
injustices
and
find
value
in
news
stories
and
in
the
past
ones
too.
A
A
Excuse
me,
we
are
hitting
the
ground
running,
so
we
are
doing
you
know,
passing
out
flyers
we're
going
door
to
door,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
things
working,
but
we
can
also
activate
the
space,
so
the
pictures
you're
seeing
of
the
low
line
these
are
stellar.
You
know
images,
but
we
can
be
using
this
space
right
now,
so
we
will
have
to
have
a
series
of
trash
pickups
to
pick
up
the
debris.
That's
that's
under
the
low
line
at
this
point,
but
then
we
can
activate
the
space.
A
So
we
can
do
we
can
do
markets,
we
can
do
food
trucks,
fitness
classes,
basketball,
hoops.
We
can
also
highlight
the
things
that
are
already
there
so
like
our
skating
community
and
there's
a
bike
polo
community
down
there,
so
the
people
are
ready.
People
are
emailing,
us
they're
excited
to
get
involved
in
this
process.
A
As
we
are
growing,
we're
really
excited
because
we'll
be
able
to
determine
a
great
volunteerism
program
and
then
get
people
really
activated
in
the
space,
we're
also
launching
a
new
logo.
So
another
little
thing
that's
exciting
for
us
is
we
have
new
images
we're
doing.
We
worked
with
obviously
a
local
firm,
so
we're
really
excited
about
this.
We
excuse
me,
I
went
too
fast.
A
We
are
looking
at
new
way
finding,
so
we
we
wanted
really
vibrant
colors,
something
that's
new
and
different
for
the
for
the
community,
so
this
is
kind
of
the
way
finding
we
were
looking
for
and
then
oh
and
then
merchandise.
So
we
see
this,
you
know
on
hats
and
bags,
so
we're
very
excited
to
get
started.
A
We
are
going
to
be
hosting
a
trash
pickup,
so
with
keep
charleston
beautiful
jamie
over
there
at
the
city
we
are
partnering
and
also
a
community
member
reached
out,
and
she
actually
is
kind
of
leading
this.
So
on
september,
23rd,
it's
where
simmons
streets
dead
ends
to
the
low
line
we'll
be
out
there
passing
out
information
and
then
we'll
be
cleaning
it
up
as
well.
So
we're
really
excited
for
that.
So
thank
you
guys
so
much.
I
will
pass
it
to
tom.
B
Okay,
before
you
go
before
you
pass
the
tom.
Let
me
ask
a
quick
question.
I
know
we
have.
You
have
the
wagner
terrace
area
down
there,
but
all
this
where
the
low
line
is
coming,
it's
all
in
the
district
I
represent.
Everything
is
the
district
I
represent
and
you
have
between
the
north,
central
and
east
central
east
central.
This
is
where
the
low
line
is
coming
through.
B
So
really,
I
need
everyone
to
really
contact
the
individuals
of
east
central,
north,
central,
the
east
side
and
zeke
ragsboro,
because
you're
going
off
to
marin
square.
A
Yes,
so
all
of
them
yeah
so
so,
just
to
be
clear,
all
of
them
have
received
the
email,
the
information
I
have
requested
to
speak
at
their
neighborhood
associations.
No,
the
north
central
neighborhood
president,
has
shared
it
with
her
people.
East
central
we've
had
great
conversation
about
things
that
she
can.
We
we
can
be
doing
and
then,
when
I
started
the
door-to-door
tags
we
talked
about
that.
So
we
are
in
contact
latonya
at
the
east
side.
We
are
also
in
contact,
so
everybody's
received
it.
A
I
just
haven't,
had
any
they
say
they're,
you
know
some
of
them
aren't
doing
their
neighborhood
meetings
right
now,
so
wagner.
Terrace
was
the
only
one
I
could
get
in
front
of
at
this
point.
B
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
because
I
don't
want
to
be
coming
after
me
and
say
you
know.
Oh,
we
didn't
know
anything
about
it.
All
we
don't
know
and
that's
what
he'll
do.
So,
that's
why
I
want
to
make
sure,
because
it's
really
in
between
those
two
neighborhood
there's
that
the
low
line
is
coming
east
central,
north,
central.
A
It's
called
the
north
central
corridor,
so
you
know
we
need
their
involvement
so
yeah,
I
I
I
am
a
resident
of
north
central,
so
I
understand
how
important
that
is-
and
so
yes
and
also
the
west
side,
because
what
they're
calling
the
pinch,
which
is
that
little
skinny
way
between
the
parks
like
that
will
be
huge.
I
mean
it's
going
to
be
huge
for
the
entire
residential
peninsula,
but
it's
definitely
in
these
in
these
corridors.
So
I
completely
agree.
B
Of
it,
you
know
make
sure
you
make
sure
that
they
understand
exactly
what's
going
on,
because
I
want
them
to
come
back
later
on
and
come
back
to
the
city
and
say:
oh
wow,
we
don't
want
this,
we
don't
know
what's
going
on,
but
I
know
what's
going
to
happen
because
they're
all
african-american
that's
live
along
that
corridor,
where
the
no
line
is
coming
and
they
were.
You
know
some
people
were
there
a
long
time,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
instant
and
they're
buying
into
this
process.
A
So
when
we
did
the
door-to-door
and
I'm
sorry
and
then
I'll
take
these
questions,
but
so
when
we
did
the
door-to-door
tags,
we
dropped
them
at
everywhere
that
that
dead
ends
first,
just
because
that
that
is
our
number
one
concern
and
we
added
phone
numbers,
email
addresses
any
way
that
they
can
contact
us
just
to
get
more
information.
If
they're
not
able
to
fill
out
the
survey
readily,
we
did
receive
a
few
calls.
A
You
know
questions
about
easement
where
the
property
starts,
so
so
we
are
starting
to
to
start
that
dialogue
and
I
do
as
a
you
know
as
a
neighbor.
I
know
once
you
see
the
cranes
it's
too
late
for
public
comment.
You
know
this
is
really
crucial.
Now,
because
you
know
the
the
low
line
is
is
excited
and
we
have
a
lot
of
partners
that
are
excited,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
these
neighbors
understand
what
this
looks
like
and
understands
what
this
is
going
to
be
prior
to
to
getting
this.
So.
E
Yeah
you're
megan.
First
I
love
your
energy.
E
I
love
it.
My
question
is:
why
are
we
calling
it
the
low
country
low
line
the
low
country
is
much
bigger
than
charleston?
Why
isn't
it
the
charleston
low
line?
Why
isn't
the
holy
city
low
line?
I
mean
when
we
come
up
with
low
country
low
line
as
the
name
of
it.
K
Councilman
this
is
tom
bradford.
If
I
could
take
that,
you
know
when
we,
when
we
began
this
whole
effort,
there
was
a
question
as
to
what
the
this
ought
to
be
called
and
we're
looking
at
the
high
line
in
new
york,
which
is
elevated
and
we
thought
low
line
and
having
something
to
go
with
it.
E
K
Listen,
I'm
excited,
I'm
excited
to
tell
you
about
a
new
low-lying
initiative
back
when
my
friend
ray
huff
pointed
out
that
other
people
had
observed
this,
that
there
at
mount
pleasant
street
that
used
to
be
the
gateway
to
the
city,
look
down
the
low
line
from
mount
pleasant
street.
He
said
this
should
be
the
gateway
to
the
city
and
then
a
couple
of
years
later,
I
was
bumping
across
the
tracks
that
were
still
under
the
the
asphalt
on
mount
pleasant
street
with
mike
messner.
K
I
must
say
that,
as
we've
studied
this
and
appreciated
it
and
talked
to
people,
it
is
profoundly
more
more
complicated
and
more.
You
know
more
beneficial
to
the
city
than
we
ever
imagined
back
at
that
time,
so
megan.
If
you
would
take
back
the
screen
and
we'll
begin
the
the
next
little
section.
K
K
I'm
very
I've
been
very
committed
in
working
very
hard
on
this,
and
we
think
it
is
going
to
become
a
major
reason
for
building
the
low
line
next,
as
most
of
us
probably
understand
that
railroad
was
built
largely
with
the
labor
of
enslaved
people,
so
the
low
line
can
help
them
and
the
people
who
still
live
there
now
step
out
from
the
shadows
of
past
reveal
the
stories
the
families
everything
that's
happened
there.
Next.
K
K
Another
one
was
to
the
two
buildings
on
the
other
side
of
the
the
track
were
warehouses
associated
with
the
low
line
down
south
of
columbus
street,
where
piggly
wiggly
is
now
located
is
the
round
house
now
the
turntable,
I
think
I've
heard
is
still
under
the
piggly
wiggly.
Next
there
is
the
sanborn
map
showing
the
rent,
the
the
the
roundhouse.
K
K
There
is
an
actual
picture
of
the
roundhouse
that
I
stole
from
the
historic
charleston
fountain
foundation's
website.
It's
fascinating
to
see
that
text
again.
Tantalizing
clues
road
and
company
grist
and
hominy
mill,
george
hacker
and
son,
the
guy
by
name
of
jim
road
redid,
our
kitchen
I'll
bet
you
jim
road,
is
a
relative
or
a
descendant
of
this
road
across
the
street.
You
probably
can't
you
can't
see
it
here,
but
there
was
a
police
station
right
across
king
street.
K
Go
ahead,
please
more
recently
and
more
tragically,
for
the
neighborhoods
was
the
construction
of
I-26
every
one
of
these
little
boxes
on
this
map
represents
a
home
or
a
business
that
was
destroyed
to
build
the
low
line.
This,
too,
is
part
of
the
history
of
the
low
line
part
of
the
stories
that
have
to
be
brought
back
to
life
and
the
low
line
can
reconnect
the
neighborhoods
that
were
severed
by
I-26
next.
K
This
is
a
this
is
a
shot
of
one
of
the
homes
that
was
taken
down
to
make
way
for
for
the
for
I-26
next-
and
this
is
a
new
acquaintance
of
mine,
andrea
hazel,
a
charleston
african
american
artist.
Doing
a
series
of
these
wonderful
watercolors
based
upon
these
forensic
photographs
of
homes
that
were
taken
down
by
I-26
she's,
got
a
whole
series
of
these
lovely
paintings,
showing
people
where,
in
the
other
photographs
there
were
no
people,
no
people
anymore,
because
the
bulldozer
bulldozers
were
moving
in
so
she's.
K
Bringing
this
back
to
life
the
same
way,
we
hope
to
bring
it
back
to
life
next,
so
the
low
line
can
give
voice
to
the
people
whose
stories
were
never
heard
by
telling
their
stories
give
them
shares
in
the
ownership
of
the
low
line.
Next,
the
low
lane
will
be
a
walkable,
bikeable
history
lesson,
a
real-life
extension
of
our
museums
and
institutes
and
an
affirmative
declaration
of
racial
equity
and
inclusion.
K
Next,
so
changing
gears
here,
you
know
the
new
priorities
of
the
city:
flooding,
affordable
housing
high
on
the
list,
both
of
which
we
address
on
the
low
line
next
here
is
a
here
is
a
shot
of
taken
from
a
presentation
by
the
developer,
just
north
of
line
street.
It's
a
lifestyle.
You
can
see
the
buildings
the
way
they
kind
of
envision
the
site
that
they're
going
to
build
and
you'll
notice
right
there
already
in
the
picture,
is
the
low
line,
so
this
has
taken
root
among
the
developers.
K
It
is,
is
a
serious
factor
in
every
all
the
discussions
and
planning
next
yep.
So
that's
it.
You
know-
and
I,
as
I
told
the
mayor
recently
coming
out
of
covid
and
with
the
new
discussion
about
racial
equity
and
black
lives
matter,
we
we
think
that
the
the
low
the
time
to
build
the
low
line
is
upon
us.
We
think
that
it
can
help
help
generate
the
the
kind
of
excitement
and
economic
activity.
K
They
can
lift
the
city
help
it
financially
help
businesses
help
people,
and
we
also
think
that,
with
the
emphasis
on
equity
and
inclusion,
that
it
will
be
a
major
statement
by
the
city
of
charleston
in
this
conversation
anyway.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time,
we're
here
to
answer
any
further
questions.
B
E
Yeah,
I
think
it
was
a
a
great
presentation
and
I
think
getting
into
the
equity
and
inclusion
is
great
because
I
think
most
of
us
know
that
the
majority
of
the
people
who
were
displaced
as
a
result
of
I-26
as
a
result
of
the
septum
o'clock
parkway
and
I
can
go
on
and
on
african-americans,
because
during
that
time,
african
americans
were
the
majority
on
the
peninsula
and
so
to
look
at
us
now.
So
I
think
that
your
you're
you're,
placing
that
into
this
I'm
I'm
quite
grateful
for.
Thank
you.
K
B
Only
right
councilman
wary.
F
Well,
I
think
councilman
warren
had
his
hand
up
first,
but
I
wanted
to
comment
and
thank
tom
and
megan
for
the
presentation
and
all
the
work
that
they
and
their
team
have
been
doing
along
with,
and
they
mentioned.
Alan
alan
davis
on
our
staff
has
been
a
partner
arm
and
arm
with
with
the
team
on
this,
and
they
really
brought
this
thing
a
long
way,
a
lot
of
remarkable
work.
So
thank
you.
I
Husband,
weary.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Listen
I'm
on
board
with
this
low
line,
and
I
agree
with
councilman
gregory
mr
bradford,
something
better
than
low
country
should
go
in
front
of
the
low
line.
H
I
Sounds
sounds
great
to
me,
but,
but
that
said,
I
think
the
in
conjunction
with
the
research
in
your
history
on
this
one.
I
think
it's
incumbent,
mr
may,
upon
us.
You
me,
as
a
councilmember,
as
all
our
colleagues
on
council,
to
somehow
coordinate
the
affordable
housing
as
being
a
lead
component
of
this.
I
know
they
can't
the
friends
of
the
low
line
can't
do
that,
but
somehow
we're
gonna
have
to
coordinate,
believe
it
or
not.
I
I
got
a
call
from
a
constituent.
I
don't
know
whether
it's
councilman,
saccharin's
or
councilman
gregory
this
morning.
My
ears
should
be
like
an
elephant-sized.
I
I
was
a
good
listener
this
morning
I
won't
call
her
name,
but
she
lives
on
san
susie
street,
so
whoever
district
that
is
she's
fired
up
and
ready
to
go
against
the
low
line,
and
I
keep
telling
her
listen.
There's
some
strong
components.
I
told
about
the
outposts,
mr
mia,
that
we
bought
for
affordable
housing,
but
for
this
low
line
to
kind
of
get
going,
the
city
has
to
have
its
dominoes
in
line
to
miss
shaw
johnson.
On
that
parcel
that,
I
think,
is
it
vacillates.
I
I
don't
know,
I
think
that's
been
somewhat
put
back
on
the
burner,
but
I
think,
as
we
showed
the
pictures,
mr
bradford
of
the
areas
north
of
line
street,
we
got
to
get
an
elevation
on
what
that
affordable
housing
is
going
to
look
like
and
how
many
of
those
units
are
there,
because
we
all
know
how
hard
we're
working
on
this
affordable,
housing
piece
but
you'll
be
shocked
at
how
many
affordable
housing
we've
had
a
very
good
last
two
three
years
in
particular
in
creating
affordable
housing
on
the
peninsula.
I
I
mean
in
the
city
of
charleston,
we've
done
a
poor
job,
getting
that
that
word
out,
in
particular
in
the
african-american
community,
that
these
units
are
being
created,
the
the
units
that
mr
cameron
and
his
team
are
doing
right
there
on
lee
street.
I
I
have
to
explain
the
number
of
people
that
those
are
affordable
housing
units.
They
actually
think
those
are
market
rate,
housing,
news
on
the
bridge
site
that
came
down
same
lady.
I
told
her.
You
know
the
councilman
mitchell
in
south
carolina
state
building
has
actually
got
his
roof
on.
She
said
man
I
gotta
ride
over
there
and
take
a
look.
She
didn't
even
know
the
construction
had
started.
I
So
that
tells
me
we
got
to
get
that
word
out
a
little
bit
better,
mr
man,
fellow
council
members
and
obviously
the
friends
of
the
low
line
we
all
in
this
together,
so
that
coordination
of
the
before,
as
megan
said
before
the
cranes
get
going,
it'd
be
really
good
to
get
some
affordable
housing
going
at
the
very
least
simultaneously.
So
we
can
say
displacement.
I
Let
me
tell
you
we're
putting
back
I'm
going
to
split
the
difference,
50
units
here
or
whatever,
how
many
units
there
and
all
of
a
sudden
it
it's
a
it's
a
much
more
palatable
conversation
when
people
come
up
and
say
what
we're
not
doing,
and
let
me
tell
you,
we
got
a
good
story
to
tell
what
we
are
doing
so
so
want
to
throw
that
one
out
there
kudos
to
mr
bradley
and
megan
for
and
you're
right.
You
got
that
high
energy
me.
You
can
share
some
of
it
with
us.
B
C
C
I
understand
we've
had
to
take
a
you
know,
an
environmental
timeout
on
the
actual
property,
where
we
intend
to
build
the
affordable
housing
community,
but
to
show
it
if
you're
going
to
be
showing
you
know
all
the
visuals
that
go
around
marion
square
and
the
other
in
the
post
and
courier
building,
and
all
of
that
I
think
that
that
would
definitely
tell
an
illustrated
story
that
that
will
be
true.
C
C
Is
the
chronicle
a
good
place?
I
mean
I.
I
know
that
you
know
we
we're
not
we're
not
having
a
lot
of
faith.
Community
gatherings
and
you've
got
the
neighborhood
communities
on
your
list,
but
it
seems
like
if,
if
we're
hearing,
you
know
sort
of
the
myths
that
are
that
are
being
talked
about,
that
are
not
accurate
or
need
need
more
accuracy
that
surely
we
could
think
of
some
avenues
of
communication
that
that
megan
and
her
her
teammates
could
take
advantage
of.
So
I
don't
know
what
they
are,
but
you
all
do.
B
That's
the
grassroots,
that's
the
best
way
to
do
it
right
now.
It's
take
a
little
time,
but
that's
the
best
way,
because
some
people
are
not
going
to
read
paper
it's
their
choice.
Some
people
are
not
going
to
look
at
the
television,
their
choice,
but
that
grasp
with
what
she
is
doing.
I
think
that's
marvelous,
mr
mr
bradford.
Oh
yes,
one
second,
mr
brad,
but
let
me
let
me
get
comes
from
the
sacrum
first.
B
I'll
get
him
after
consummate
sacrum
and
then
I'm.
H
Going
to
cheer
up
I'll
be
very
brief.
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
to
tom
and
megan
for
another
overview,
I'm
very
supportive
of
it.
Two
things
I
just
want
to
just
mention
to
piggyback
and
councilman
waring
in
addition
to
the
affordable
housing
focus.
You
know,
as
I
see
this
get
built
out
over
the
years,
I
do
see
nodes
of
opportunity
for
small
business
enterprise
all
along.
So
we
need
to
be
very
intentional
about
reaching
out
to
to
our
black
community
to
figure
out
what
opportunities
are
we
providing
and
those
nodes?
H
And
not,
you
know
repeating
you
know
the
history
that
we
have
and
making
sure
that
we're
intentional
about
carving
out
spaces.
So
I'm
not
sure
who's
in
you
know
that's
the
city
or,
if
that's
you,
know,
friends
of
the
low
line
and
how
that
works.
But
I
do
think
there's
opportunity,
for
you
know
that
relationship
between
affordable
housing
and
making
sure
that
we
create
small
business
nodes,
and,
as
I
see
it,
you
know
we
will
see
an
additional
commerce
through
that
through
that
low
line,
correct.
A
Yes
and
yeah,
and
just
to
jump
in
before
it's
like.
Yes,
that
is
kind
of
the
next
frontier
that
we're
really
hearing
from
and
we
are
really
excited
to
pursue.
We
talked
to
low
country,
local
work,
you
know
low
country
local
first
about
you
know
how
to
prioritize
small
businesses.
You
know
when
we're
talking
about
these
markets.
A
You
know
we
could
be
really
strategic,
I
mean
we
have
open
air
that
has
an
overpass,
so
you
know
no
weather
conditions,
so
that
could
be
really
exciting
and
also
with
the
with
the
development
you're
seeing
on
the
upper
peninsula.
You
know
a
lot
of
them
are
approaching
us
they're
very
excited
about
the
project
and
why
not
challenge
them
to
be
more
open
for
first-time
business
owners,
or
you
know
we're
creating
a
space
that
that
will
bring.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
megan
and
tom
great
job,
great
presentation.
L
When
y'all
are
done
downtown,
you
got
to
come
over
to
west
ashley
and
help
us
take
the
greenway
greenway
to
the
next
level,
maybe
in
2030
or
so,
but
very
exciting,
and
I
think
that
councilmember
waring
had
some
very
good
points
about
how
we
can
put
together
a
sort
of
more
comprehensive
story
here,
so
that
we're
not
unintentionally
sending
the
wrong
signals
and
wrong
messages.
But
I
to
council
members
saccharin's
point.
L
I
do
think
that
there's
a
way
to
have
everybody
benefit
from
this
and
and
not
be
a
zero-sum
game,
and
I
think
that's
an
exciting
opportunity
and
look
forward
to
seeing
the
evolution
of
this
process
in
the
coming
weeks
and
months.
A
All
right-
and
I
just
want
to
comment
like
we
do
and
I'm
sorry
I'm
gonna
come
on-
is
that
we
just
we
do
see.
This
is
such
a
bigger
thing
than
the
parks,
so
that's
what's
so
exciting
to
partner
and
have
such
a
great
relationship
with
the
city
is
because,
like
you
know,
it
is
going
to
touch
on
so
many
important
parts
that
the
peninsula
is
having
storm
water
transportation,
affordable
housing
like
it's
so
much
more
than
a
park.
So
that's
that's.
What's
really
exciting.
E
A
E
To
I
heard
the.
E
B
All
right
who
was
next.
K
In
response
to
some
of
the
observations
about
coordinating
all
this,
you
know
with
liveability
livable
housing,
I
mean
affordable
housing,
equity
inclusion
and
everything
at
the
mayor's
direction.
There's
a
large
meeting
between
city
staff
and
friends
of
the
low
line
next
week
to
give
some
very
deliberate
thought
to
just
that.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
We,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
one.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
work
hard
to
engage
the
african-american
community
and,
secondly,
that
we
have
an
rfp
going
out,
probably
next
month,
pertaining
to
the
affordable
housing.
E
Could
you
include
our
chairman
of
economic
empowerment
of
the
commission
in
that
discussion
and
we
can
give
you
all
of
his
particulars?
E
B
E
I
Yeah
I
do
and
thinking
about
this
you
know
another
ally
to
this
process,
believe
it
or
not
a
charleston
water
system,
and,
mr
me,
I
think,
it'd
be
great
as
mrs
bradley
and
ms
mills
go
about
enhancing
the
plan.
I
Where
what
rule
I
don't
know
if
you
that
fall
down
the
road,
an
engineering
standpoint,
do
you
see
services?
You
talk
about
bathrooms
and
things
like
that.
Where
do
you
see
that
the
infrastructure
for
that
needing
to
be
put
in
place
in
the
water
sue
et
cetera,
okay,.
K
I'll
be
brief,
I'll
be
I'll.
Be
brief
in
the
cost
estimate
that
we
that
was
done
for
us
by
kimberly
horn,
approximately
one-third
of
the
projected
construction
expenses
go
into
storm
water
management
and
believe
me,
we've
been
looking
very
carefully
at
how
that
can
work
and
what
other
utilities
can
be
located
underneath
the
low
line,
and
that
would
obviously
include
include
water.
I
Well,
well,
what
I'm,
what
I'm
really
saying
some
of
those
services
I
like
to
know
where
the
main
sewer
trunk
lines
are
in
relation
to
what
some
of
the
areas
you
like
to
put
your
restrooms,
for
example,
or
some
of
the
other
areas
down
here.
So
I
I'm
telling
you
it
would
be
really
good
to
get
up
front
on
that
one
with
cws
short,
a
few
footsteps
for
you
guys:
okay,.
B
Well,
we
have
one
more
presentation,
so
I
don't
want
to
prolong
this
any
longer.
I.
A
B
Any
other
questions
we'll
move
right
along
and
thank
you
very
much,
mr
bradford
and
megan
for
coming
and
explaining
the
low
lines.
So
this
is
going
to
be
received
as
information
we
don't
have
to
have.
We
don't
have
to
take
a
vote
on
this
tonight.
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
Mm-Hmm
man,
moving
right
along
is
next
is
laura
island.
Mr
robbie
clements
he's
still
around
all
right.
Are
you
on
this
you're
in
the
hot
seat?
B
G
Well,
mr
mayor
member
of
count,
members
of
council,
thank
you
for
your
time
today
and
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
speak.
Let
me
introduce
my
team
in
this
room.
I
have
rhett
rodenbach
and
genelee
gucci
from
revere
and
then
eddie
bellow
with
bello
garris
is
remote
and
then
brian
hellman,
with
helmand,
yates
and
tisdale
is
also
remote.
G
G
One
point,
though,
I'd
like
to
make
it's
so
refreshing
to
hear
the
conversations
about
affordable
housing,
because
you
know
gianna
deserves
enormous
amount
of
credit
for
what
she's
been
able
to
do
in
the
last
three
to
five
even
longer
years
and
it's
been
an
uphill
fight,
and
so,
as
your
chair
of
the
mayor's
commission
on
homelessness
and
affordable
housing,
I
got
to
give
a
shout
out
to
gian.
C
B
G
K
G
Of
readapting
itself
to
our
community's
needs,
beginning
in
1827,
robert
mills
designed
the
armory
at
laurel
island
with
a
barracks
and
officers
quarters
and
nine
powder
magazines
in
1910
standard
oil
built
a
transportation
station
or
transport
station
way
out
in
the
marsh
and
1918
laurel
islands
marsh
was
dyked
and
it
became
a
dredged
spoil
area.
G
G
G
romney
beach
stopped
receiving
in
89
and
was
permanently
closed
in
1995
2003
louboutin
brought
the
property.
2008
bob
again
tried
a
resort
concept
there,
but
the
great
recession
killed
that
in
2010
to
2013
we
evaluated
port
uses
for
the
property,
but
by
2014
we
were
focused
on
mixed-use
concept,
for
the
property
development
was
moving
quickly
up
the
peninsula,
and
so
it
made
sense
in
2015.
G
G
Unfortunately,
they
wanted
too
much
retail
product,
which
required
a
four-lane
bridge,
mayor
teklenberg,
said
no
and
with,
and
that
was
the
end
of
that.
But
what
ensued?
What
went
on
at
that
time
was
a
tremendous
amount
of
public
outreach
where
we
learned
a
great
deal
about
what
the
public
wanted
later.
We
would
combine
that
research
with
our
recent
public
outreach.
G
G
In
2020,
we
contracted
to
buy
grow
locals
facility
from
the
coastal
conservation
league
for
the
balance
of
the
right-of-way
as
one
of
the
two
new
and
as
one
of
the
two
new
substations
that
we
are
going
to
provide
to
dominion
in
2019,
we
created
the
tax
increment
finance
district
eddie.
Can
you
give
me
one
move.
F
M
F
G
Right
all
right,
tax,
increment
finance
district
at
laurel
island.
Many
of
you
will
remember
this
because
it
was
a
very
big
deal.
We
had
to
take
193
acres
out
of
the
magnolia
tiff.
This
was
a
very
public
process
and
put
it
into
new
a
new
laurel
island
tip.
We
also
wanted
to
add
some
new
parcels
about
58
acres
to
the
tiff
and
restart
the
timing
on
the
tiff
to
regain
the
30
years
county
council
in
the
city
both
agreed
to
do
so.
G
Was
not
they
agreed
to
no
increment
on
the
new
58
acres,
which
you
see
here
highlighted
in
orange,
or
maybe
that's
texas,
red
or
something,
but
they
did
not
go
along
with
that,
and
so
we
also
only
get
the
increment
on
the
193
acres
of
laurel
island
proper
for
19
years,
and
that
goes
down
a
year.
At
a
time
the
school
board
accounts,
as
you
all
know,
for
half
of
any
tax
increment
on
a
property,
and
this
compares
to
say
a
magnolia
tif,
which
has
30
years
from
all
three
governmental
bodies.
G
G
This
year
we
started,
we
restarted
our
public
outreach
early
on
probably
at
the
end
of
december,
beginning
in
january,
having
virtual
meetings
with
the
east
side,
neighborhood,
east
central
north
central
wagner,
terrace
and
multiple
meetings
face-to-face
and
virtually
with
the
coastal
conservation
league,
the
preservation
society
of
charleston
and
historic
charleston
foundation.
G
We've
also
created
a
website,
and
I
would
recommend
that
if,
if
the
loan
line
hadn't,
which
over
a
thousand
people
have
accessed
in
the
last
60
days,
I
believe
and
from
which
a
number
of
comments
have
been
received.
This
research,
along
with
the
previous
meetings
in
2016,
2017,
2018
and
19,
gave
us
a
pretty
good
handle
on
what
people
wanted
on
and
off
the
island
which
were
public
access
to
the
water
with
docks
or
through
docks
using
docks,
piers
walkways
boardwalks
green
space,
water
taxis.
G
M
Thank
you,
robert,
and
thank
you,
mr
chairman
mayor
and
other
council
members
for
having
us
here
at
season
and
I'll
try
to
be
brief.
Sometimes
I
get
a
little
long-winded.
M
Talking
about
engineering,
but
I
know
it's
not
an
interest
to
everyone
on
the
call
but
I'll
the
first
thing
that
we're
showing
here
on
the
screen,
it's
kind
of
interesting
when
you
first
look
at
it
I'll
give
you
a
second
to
try
to
digest
it.
M
But
this
in
essence,
is
showing
you
what
the
existing
soil
conditions
are
on
laura
island
and
what?
Hopefully,
they
will
look
like
once.
We
finish
with
surcharging
and
prepping
the
site
for
infrastructure.
So
currently
the
existing
soil
conditions.
You
know,
have
some
significant
engineering
challenges,
but
they
also
provide
us
with
a
number
of
opportunities.
M
The
existing
site
that
you
see
out
there
has
a
one
foot
cap
on
top
of
11
and
12
feet
of
municipal
solid
waste
which,
which
is
important
to
know
robert
mentioned
earlier.
This
is
not
a
don't.
This
is
something
that
has
been
controlled.
It
was
measured
and
it's
something
we
really
have
a
lot
of
understanding
of
how
it's
going
to
react
over
time
and
how
it's
going
to
change
as
things
start
to
load
it,
and
we
start
to
put
buildings
infrastructure
in
place.
On
top
of
that
or
below
the
municipal.
M
So
because
of
the
spoil
and
the
municipal,
solid
waste
laurel
island
has
some
of
the
highest
elevations
in
all
charleston
that
one
foot
cap,
that's
currently
one
to
three
foot
gap
is
currently
in
place-
has
an
elevation
of
20
and
sometimes
a
little
bit
higher
in
the
center
of
the
island.
That
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
design
a
drainage
system
that
can
handle
some
of
the
biggest
rainfalls
that
we
design
for
and
be
able
to
outfall
at
elevations
that
are
significantly
above.
Even
where
we
predict
sea
level
rise
will
change
the
elevations
of
the
tide.
M
Got
a
15-foot
pile
of
dirt
that
we
call
surcharge
now
that
dirk's
been
sitting
there
for
a
number
of
years,
we've
been
able
to
measure
what
that
weight
does
to
the
municipal,
solid
waste
in
the
dred
spoil
and
predict
how
things
will
settle.
So
what
you're
seeing
here
is
what
we'll
do
during
before.
We
actually
start
development,
we'll
pre-load
this
island,
particularly
where
all
the
roads
and
water
sewer
drains
is
going
to
be
with
a
pile
of
dirt.
M
That
will
then
settle
the
msw
in
the
dredge
foil
and
we'll
have
a
clean
core
where
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
contamination.
M
We
have
to
worry
about
messing
in
with
the
municipal
sideways
below,
we'll
have
six
feet
of
material
minimum,
almost
every
place
that
we
have
roads
and
utilities
and
we'll
be
able
to
support
those
utilities
that
are
great
dependent
and
deep,
we'll
be
able
to
do
things
like
timber
cribbing
cribbing
in
order
to
keep
drainage
pipes
from
moving
around
and
we'll
be
able
to
design
water
lines
and
sewer
lines
that
can
work
within
normal
tolerances
of
settlement.
This
is
very
expensive.
M
We're
going
to
have
to
bring
in
a
lot
of
dirt
over
a
long
period
of
time
and
let
it
sit
for
a
long
period
of
time,
and
then
we
have
to
still
do
these
foundations
that
are
special,
we'll
have
to
do
special
materials
for
our
piping
to
make
sure
that
any
of
the
settlement
over
time
we
can
handle.
But
all
this
gives
us
a
great
opportunity
to
be
resilient.
M
M
Unfortunately,
it's
only
right
now
by
one
street,
which
is
romney
street,
but
this
this
image
represents
the
fact
that
we
have
great
access
to
the
cooperative
bridge
meeting
street
I-26
via
romney
brigade
and
mount
pleasant
street
morrison
drive,
which
will
lead
us
to
the
port
access
road,
and
we
can
see
highlighting
the
neighborhoods
that
are
around
with
wagner
terrace
to
the
to
the
to
the
west
north
central
on
the
other
side
of
I-26,
east
central
being
really
our
neighbor
in
the
east
side
being
just
just
to
the
south
of
us,
and
the
dash
line
that
you
see
around
this
exhibit
designates
the
traffic
study
limits
that
has
been
completed.
M
There's
been
over
30
intersections
that
have
been
studied
and
traffic.
That's
been
projected
out
of
2043
all
the
way
from
huntington
at
meeting
street.
M
To
ut
street
to
the
south,
so
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
we
get
great
connectivity
to
the
existing
transportation
network.
That's
available
to
us!
That's
why
romney
street
alone
really
won't
suffice
for
to
serve
the
development
adequately.
We've
got
brigade
street
to
the
north
with
a
really
short
little
section
of
road
that
needs
to
be
extended
into
the
island
that
will
have
connections.
M
It
will
allow
us
to
go
north
up
on
meeting
street
and
allow
us
to
connect
in
the
meeting
in
I-26,
but
we
needed
a
connection
that
had
a
great
separation
over
the
railroad
tracks.
Romney
street.
As
you
all
you
all
know,
experiences
a
number
of
train
movements
from
from
the
columbus
street
terminal
for
the
bmw
trains
coming
in
and
out.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
we're
connected
to
the
brt.
You
know
we
got
close,
stops
are
going
to
be
nearby
main
street
wanna
make
sure
we're
connected.
M
So
one
of
the
big
controversial
issues
is
the
bridge
and
robert
mentioned
in
2015.
We
work
really
diligently
with
the
neighborhoods,
as
well
as
the
city
of
charleston,
to
look
at
all
the
options
that
were
afforded
in
the
existing
road
network.
We
looked
at
elevating
the
railroad
tracks.
We
looked
at
every
east-west
street
from
meetings
that
crosses
meeting
street
morrison
drive
all
the
way
from
brigade
down
to
cedar
street
to
see
if
there
are
ways
to
get
in
to
the
island.
There
are
kind
of
five
main
criteria
we
had
to
accomplish.
H
M
Over
morrison
drive
in
the
railroad
tracks
and
meet
the
engineering
criteria
to
to
make
sure
that
it
wasn't
too
steep
number
two
and
that
we
have
the
vertical
clearances
over
morris
and
the
railroad
tracks
number
two.
M
We
needed
to
get
back
the
grade
at
north
andover,
so
we
wouldn't
disconnect
the
existing
street
network
and
then
have
some.
You
know
inadvertent,
dead-end
cul-de-sacs
that
wouldn't
provide
for
good
mobility
in
the
neighborhoods
three.
We
had
to
make
sure
that
we
we
protected
the
existing
housing
that
was
in
the
area.
You
know.
Romney
street
and
conroy
street
were
looked
at
really
closely,
but
we're
concerned
about
the
impacts
it
would
have
to
the
housing
to
sit
there
at
mountain.
M
We
wanted
to
make
sure
we
protected
the
tech
incubator
like
robert
mentioned
earlier,
which
is
between
romney
and
conroy,
and
we
needed
to
have
a
traffic
signal
and
meeting
street
in
order
to
adequately
meter
the
traffic
and
make
sure
that
the
intersections
operated
properly
only
option
that
fit
that
criteria
was
cool
street
option
six
and
and
we
had
the
hurdle
of
having
to
secure
right
away
from
9.95
more
signatures
done
by
the
county.
Unfortunately,
we
were
lucky
enough
to
get
that
done.
So
we
talk
about
traffic.
M
We
talk
about
all
the
impacts
to
the
roads
that
are
around
us.
The
traffic
study
outlines
a
number
of
intersection
improvements
that
are
required
throughout
the
grid.
That'll
include
turn
lanes.
It
will
include
crosswalks
new
signals,
we'll
be
able
to
provide
new
streetscaping
drainage
improvements,
bikepad
pedestrian
connections.
M
It
really
focuses
on
traffic
defining
density.
This
plan
can
only
grow
at
the
pace
that
the
access
points
on
laurel
island
allow
it
to
and
the
grid
around
it
allow
it
to,
and
the
traffic
study
is
perfectly
clear.
It
shows
that
romney
street
only
about
30
percent
of
all
the
development,
the
density
and
land
use.
That's
written
in
in
the
pub
could
be
accessed
onto
romney
street
until
after
that
we
have
to
look
at
other
access
points.
We
have
to
expand
the
brigade.
M
So
the
two
major
things
that
really
kept
this
project
from
really
developing
over
the
years
have
really
been
how
to
handle
the
geotechnical
and
soil
conditions
which
we
think
we
now
understand
it
after
time
has
allowed
us
the
opportunity
to
study
it
and
really
get
a
handle
on
it,
and
then
the
in-depth
work
we've
done
with
the
neighborhoods
and
the
traffic
studies
to
figure
out
how
we
get
people
in
and
out
of
this
development
successfully.
So
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
eddie
who's.
N
Well,
thanks
fred
and
yeah
again,
I'm
eddie
bello,
I'm
an
architect
here
in
town
with
bella
gears,
architects
and
one
of
the
and.
G
N
Going
to
go
quick
quickly
on
this,
I
know
we're
we're
last
on
the
agenda.
Y'all
had
some
pretty
interesting
stuff
to
talk
about,
but
to
quickly
go
through
the
plan.
One
of
the
first
things
that
we
did
was
develop
some
guiding
principles
that
will
help
determine
how
the
island
has
developed
over
a
long
period
of
time.
These
were
developed
based
on
all
the
public
outreach
that
we
heard.
You
know
I've
only
been
involved
in
the
last
few
months,
but
rhett
and
robert
have
been
involved
with
this
project
this
island
for
over
a
decade.
N
So
we
have
a
a
wealth
of
information
and
robert
went
through
a
lot
of
those,
but
just
real
quick
one
of
the
first
ones
is
the
connection
to
the
environment.
We
are
on
an
island
that
makes
sense
that
we
would
want
to
have
as
many
opportunities
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
experience
the
waterfront.
N
N
Those
types
of
things
I'll
go
through
that
when
I
show
the
plan
in
a
minute
sustainable
and
resilient
practices,
any
kind
of
development
in
this
day
and
time
should
have
that
approach,
as
you
heard
from
rhett
it's
difficult
to
build
on
a
former
landfill,
but
you
know
our
utilities
will
be
very
resilient.
There'll
be
certainly
more
able
to
to
handle
climate
change
and
other
weather
events
than
our
the
rest
of
our.
N
You
know:
utilities
elsewhere
on
the
peninsula,
and
certainly
just
building
here
on
a
former
landfill
in
the
really
the
center
of
our
you
know,
upper
part
of
the
city
on
the
peninsula
is
where
development
should
occur.
That
in
itself
is
sustainable.
We
don't
want
to
have
more
development
outside
of
the
city
where
we're
going
to
induce
more
sprawl,
and
so
just
basically
using
a
landfill
site
is
a
is
something
that
I
think
most
people
understand
is
is
a
very
strong
positive
social
and
economic
diversity.
N
There's
two
things
about
that:
one:
we're
going
to
have
a
significant
amount
of
workforce
housing,
that's
required
for
this
project,
20
total
and
half
of
that
will
be
permanent
and
the
other
half
will
be
for
a
period
of
10
years.
I'll
go
through
that.
You
know
in
a
minute,
but
I
think
the
key
takeaway
there
is
there's
not
been
any
other
development
that
we're
aware
of
planned
unit
development
for
the
city
that
is
going
to
provide
permanent
workforce
housing.
So
we're
really
proud
of
that
and
the
other.
N
The
other
thing
about
social
and
economic
diversity
is
the
types
of
uses
we're
going
to
have.
As
robert
mentioned,
there
was
an
earlier
plan
that
was
just
a
big
giant
shopping
district.
This
will
have
commercial
retail
commercial
office,
multi-family
entertainment,
basically
all
the
things
that
the
peninsula
has
elsewhere.
So
this
will
be
a
very
diverse
mix
of
uses
and,
ideally
it'll
it'll
have
because
of
the
workforce,
housing
and
because
of
those
uses
we'll
have
a
mix
of
race,
income
and
age.
Just
like
the
rest
of
the
peninsula
quality
of
the
public
realm.
N
We
have
a
wonderful
public
realm
here
in
charleston,
so
this
plan
is
designed
around
the
experience
of
the
pedestrian
and
of
the
public.
The
buildings
that
will
be
built
here
are
will
have
to
be
responsive
to
the
public
ground
and
the
plan
is
again
based
based
on
that
idea
and
then
the
last
thing
is
authenticity.
N
We
have
again,
we
have
a
wonderful
city,
we
have
the
real
thing
here
and
this
plan
was
inspired
by
how
charleston
works
and,
and
also
we
have
some
historic
resources
on
the
site
that
we
want
to
celebrate
so
I'll
quickly
go
through
the
plan,
so
thinking
about
how
to
lay
out
the
island
and
what
the
key
elements
are
up
to
the
northeast
here
are
the
standard
oil
rooms
that
robert
mentioned
and
then
to
the
sort
of
the
left
here
the
west
are
the
robert
mills
ruin.
N
N
Here
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
very
sensitive
to
those
apartments
and
the
cemeteries
just
just
over
from
to
the
west
of
us
and
then
last
thinking
about
the
views
as
you
approach
charleston
from
mount
pleasant,
this
will
be
very
visible
from
the
bridge,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
was
taken
into
account
as
we
laid
off
the
island.
N
N
A
lot
of
focus
has
been
on
the
bridge
like
rhett
has
mentioned,
but
you
know
the
bridge
is
really
just
two
lanes
people
think
of
it
as
being
this
big
overpass.
N
It's
really
just
two
lanes,
just
like
romney,
just
like
brigade
just
happens
to
be
elevated,
so
we
want
to
take
that
grid,
that's
in
east
central
and
then
pull
it
into
our
street
grid
and
then
as
the
peninsula,
as
you
go
north
and
this
the
grid
turns
into
more
of
a
north,
south
and
east-west
oriented
grid,
not
unlike
how
the
lower
peninsula
grew
over
time,
and
so
what
this
is
done.
If
you
imagine
buildings
there,
this
allows
us
to
have
views
to
the
water
from
every
sin
just
about
every
single
street.
N
So
that's
a
key
element
of
the
plan.
Another
thing
to
to
take
note
of
is,
if
you
look
at
the
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
my
mouse
here,
but
all
of
the
streets
along
the
water
are
outboard
of
the
development.
So
that's
just
like
murray
boulevard
on
the
lower
peninsula.
N
You
know
one
side
will
have
buildings.
The
other
side
will
always
be
open
to
the
public
for
use
to
the
water.
So
again,
that's
a
that's,
a
big,
a
big
issue,
a
big
positive
for
the
plan
and
then
just
quickly
to
go
through
again.
One
of
our
key
tenants
is
that
connection
to
the
environment.
So
to
that
end
we
we've
established
a
park
here
at
the
northeast
end.
This
is
right.
Next
to
the
standard
oil
ruins.
N
We
have
another
open
area
right
around
where
the
robert
mills,
ruins
are
there'll,
be
an
interpretive
trail.
There
we
have
a
ferry
dock
again.
This
is
on
axis
with
east
romney
street.
This
would
be
a
significant
dock.
Think
of
just
like
waterfront
park.
A
ferry
could
eventually
have
service
there
at
the
lower
end
of
the
island.
We
have
we
have
another
park.
N
This
will
be
a
lower
scale.
More
low
country
feel
because
there's
really
a
smaller
creek
there
with
crabbing
docks
on
this
northwest
side.
We
have
set
aside
some
land
for
ball
fields.
You
know,
I
don't
know
I'm
trying
to
think.
I
think
the
nearest
ball
field
is
wagner
terrace
I
mean
and
I'm
sorry
hampton
park,
but
anyway.
So
that's
a
big
positive
again
that
was
done
to
help
soften
the
edge
from
bridgeview
and
from
the
cemeteries
singleton
park
is
not
technically
part
of
the
pud.
N
N
What
we're
doing
with
the
pud
is
providing
land
for
dominion,
services
to
be
handled
on
our
site
so
that
hopefully
singleton
park
will
be
turned
over
to
the
city
and
remain
a
public
park,
and
then
last
we
have
this
almost
two
mile
path,
a
pedestrian,
cycling
path,
all
the
way
around
the
island.
This
will
be
a
public
meeting.
All
of
these
are
public,
and
so
this
will
be
something
that
anyone
in
the
city
can
go
and
enjoy
throughout
the
life
of
the
project.
N
All
right
so
I'll
go
quick
here.
We
we've
established
some
streets
street
types,
the
key
takeaway
here,
I'm
not
going
to
bore
you
with
all
the
different
street
types,
but
the
main
one
is
this
romney
street,
which
is
a
boulevard,
and
I
just
want
to
point
out
on
this
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
too
into
it,
but
on
all
of
our
major
streets
we
have
a
dedicated
bike
lane.
It's
not
just
a
lane.
It's
actually
a
protected
lane.
You
can
see
here,
there's
a
raised
planted
area.
N
This
looks
like
it's
four
lanes
of
traffic.
It's
actually
just
two
with
parallel
parking,
just
like
most
of
our
neighborhood
streets,
but
the
point
of
that
I
want
to
make
here
about
the
cycling
lane
is
that
this
promotes
cycling,
not
just
as
a
recreational
activity,
but
it's
really
as
a
true
mode
of
transportation
to
get
to
to
and
from
work
or
shopping
or
whatever.
N
And
again,
these
are
showing
how
cycling
and
pedestrian
routes
are
on
the
island
very
quickly.
I've
we've
had
identified
where
the
heights
height
districts
would
be
so
the
light
blue
or
the
bluish
color.
Those
are
the
lowest
that's
two
and
a
half
to
three
and
a
half
stories
I
left
out.
I
always
forget
to
talk
about
this
entertainment
district.
We've
set
aside.
That's
only
two
stories
so
again.
H
N
The
lower
heights
are
are
basically
on
the
external
part
of
the
island
and
then
the
higher
heights,
the
red
is
12
stories
and
the
and
the
purple
is
eight
are
clustered
in
the
center
and
one
thing
you
know
we
just
made
a
presentation:
the
planning
commission.
Last
week.
This
site
is
currently
zoned
heavy
industrial,
which
means
any
kind
of
use
can
go
out
there
and
you
don't
have
to
do
any
kind
of
plan
you
can
just
start
building
and
the
height
district
is
the
tallest
in
the
entire
city.
N
Up
for
this
property
being
developed
just
like
the
state
ports
authorities
properties
just
to
the
south,
so
it's
set
up
to
have
those
giant
cranes.
So
what
we're
basically
doing
is
we're
lowering
all
the
heights
and
then
we're
putting
the
heights
the
taller
heights
in
the
areas
where
they'll
have
the
least
impact
from
external
areas.
N
This
is
just
a
super
quick
view,
looking
back
south
east
and
what
it's
just
showing
here
is
how
we've
set
aside
the
most
of
the
open,
a
good
portion
of
the
open
land
again
facing
bridge
view
and
facing
those
cemeteries,
and
you
can
also
see
the
heights
are
very
comparable
to
what's
been
built.
Just
up
and
down
more
morrison
drive
all
right.
So
open
space
is
a
big
issue
and
a
very
strong
element
of
this
plan
you
can
see
here.
N
N
But
the
real
important
aspect
here
is
the
actual
useful,
open
space.
This
is
what
would
be
parks,
the
ball
fields,
just
all
of
the
areas
that
you
can
actually
access
and
the
city
minimum
would
be
9.8
acres,
we're
providing
almost
40
acres,
so
we're
at
four
times
what
the
city
would
require.
So
that's
a
again
that's
a
strong
component.
We
pushed
all
the
heights
center
put
all
the
all
the
public
public
park,
areas
where
we
think
they'd
have
the
most
impact
which
is
outside
on
the
water
views
all
right.
I'm
about
to
wrap
up.
N
N
All
right
I
mentioned
that
we
went
to
the
planning
commission
last
week
and
we
had.
It
was
a
very
good
meeting.
As
you
can
imagine,
there
was
a
lot
of
public
comment,
but
really
in
all
of
the
public
comment,
all
the
meetings
that
we've
had
there
haven't
been
any
major
issues
with
the
plan
itself.
There's
been
some
nuances
with
some
of
the
language,
but
overall
we've
been
very
happy
with
the
the
comments
we've
received
and
I
think
that's
because
we
we've
met
with
so
many
people
and.
O
N
Won't
read
all
of
these,
but
the
first,
the
first
one
that
the
city
recommended
it's
just
setting
some
benchmarks
for
how
the
the
workforce
housing
would
be
incorporated
over
a
certain
period
and
again
to
stress
one
more
time.
You
know
we're
going
to
have
half
of
it
will
be
permanent.
N
The
second
one
is
just
laying
out
some
requirements
to
make
sure
that
it
is
truly
going
to
be
a
mixed
use,
development
that
we
don't
just
build
a
lot
of
housing
out
there,
and
so
that's
just
a
requirement
by
the
city
which
makes
sense
they
wanted
us
to
basically
guarantee
the
open
space,
that's
usable
and
then
the
last
there
was
a
concern
that
there
may
be
some
some
gates.
That
was
never
the
intention,
but
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
clarified.
N
So
this
will
always
be
a
public
space,
basically
an
extension
of
the
city,
all
right
so
very
quickly.
The
community
benefits
of
the
plan
again
we're
taking
a
former
landfill,
heavy
industrial
site
and
basically
having
a
new
community
extension
of
our
community.
Just
across
the
railroad
tracks,
there
will
be
significant
street
and
drainage
improvements.
N
N
I've
said
this
a
lot
of
times.
The
public
open
space
is
extensive
for
this
island.
It's
a
key
component
of
the
plan.
There's
ball
fields,
trails
parks.
We
have
two
docks
significant
and,
like
I
said
it's
four
times
what
the
minimum
would
be.
So
it's
a
lot
and
then
last
we
have
diverse
mix
of
uses.
This
is
not
a
giant
shopping
district.
I
remember
many
years
ago
there's
an
idea
to
have
a
golf
course
out
there.
N
This
is
just
basically
an
extension
of
the
peninsula
and
again
workforce
housing
is
a
significant
component
of
the
project,
all
right.
So
I
went
through
that
as
quickly
as
I
could,
but
that's
that's
the
plan
and
I
think
we're
ready
for
questions.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you,
chairman,
not
really
a
question
just
a
comment.
You
know
I
was
at
wagner
terrace's
neighborhood
association
meeting
two
weeks
ago
and
the
project
came
up
and
they
did
indicate
that
you
all
had
done
a
good
job
of
of
sharing
information
as
you
could.
H
In
terms
of
you
know,
they
were
worried
that
you
know
once
the
pud
gets
approved
or
if
it
does
get
approved,
it
is
if
it
is
approved
what
changes
can
be
made
after
the
fact,
and
they
did
also
mention
to
me
as
several
folks
wagner,
terrace
association
members
did
mention
that
they
they
did
want
to
see
more
engagement,
given
the
fact
we're
in
covid
and
they
felt
like
you've
all
have
attempted
it,
but
many
were
not
satisfied.
So
I'm
just
sharing
what
I've
heard
from
some
of
the
members
in
the
community.
N
Well
I'll
speak
very
quickly
and
I
think
mr
hellman
will
want
to
talk
about
some
of
the
language
I
live
in
wagner
terrace
and
I've
lived
there
for
27
years
and
I
appreciate
that
I
think
you
know
we've
we've
heard
some
again,
I'm
I
made
a
quick
speech
to
the
planning
commission.
Last
week
we
have
met
with
everybo
everyone
we
we've
we
could
and-
and
I
appreciate
you
know-
everyone
wants
more
public
engagement.
I
I
don't
ever
disagree
with
that,
but
the
one
thing
I
I
wanna.
N
N
D
N
Definitely
we
did
meet,
we
met
with
wagner
terrace,
there
weren't
many
comments.
Most
people
have
questions
about
the
street
improvements
down
the
road
and
and
how
traffic
might
be
hand
handled
I
mean.
Certainly
this
is
several
blocks
from
connecting
to
wagner
terrace.
N
H
O
Muted,
can
you
not
hear
me
now
yeah,
okay,
so
as
it
relates
to
the
pud
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
what
could
change?
That's
a
that's
a
that's
an
interesting
question
to
answer,
because
the
way
we've
drafted
the
putt
is
so
that
there's
a
lot
of
flexibility
in
some
parts
and
very
little
flexibility
in
others.
O
So
there
was
an
earlier
slide
that
that
eddie
showed
that
identified
a
mixed
use
area
and
that
mixed
use
area
is
an
area
in
which
all
all
the
uses
that
are
allowed
in
the
pud
can
exist
and
those
uses
are
residential
office,
commercial,
retail,
accommodations
and
there's
a
varying
number
of
those.
The
way
the
pud
works
as
as
red
had
mentioned,
traffic
divides
density
and
the
density
is
is
affected
by
what
our
traffic
allows.
O
So,
as
the
new
connections
are
built,
whether
it's
the
improvements
to
romney
or
brigade
or
to
cool
blow,
it
will
allow
more
density,
but
to
get
to
that.
You've
got
to
you've,
got
to
build
the
roads,
and
that
is
all
baked
in
so
where
we
have.
Flexibility
is
in
where
we
can
locate
the
uses
in
the
pud
where
we
don't
have.
Flexibility
is
in
the
park
space.
That's
that's
mandated.
O
We
don't
have
flexibility
in
reducing
our
our
workforce,
housing,
that's
mandated
and
and
of
course,
ten
percent
and
permanently
not
a
burn
off
like
you
would
see,
typically
in
the
mu
or
upper
peninsula
districts,
and
then
where,
where
we,
where
we
have
that
flexibility
again
goes
back
to
uses
where
we
can
locate
them,
whether
we
build
something
to
the
height
districts
are
fixed,
but
we
don't
have
to
build
an
eight-story
building
or
a
12-story
building.
We
can
build
whatever
height
up
to
that.
O
B
And
I'm
gonna
make
a
comment
on
this.
This
particular
project
there's
another
one,
another
another
project
in
the
district
I
represent
anyway,
but
what
it
is.
This
project
was
going
on
a
long
time
and
I
was
having
meetings
with
them
all
the
time.
Almost
over
a
year
past
a
year
I
had
them
to
visit
with
the
neighborhood
association,
which
is
east
central,
which
is
mostly
most
of
the
impact,
will
be
happening
with
east
central.
B
I
had
them
also
to
go
to
the
east
side
also
to
north
central
and
to
wagner
terrace,
because
the
area
is
just
the
area.
Let
them
know
what's
being
compromised
in
this
particular
plan,
but
the
plan
is
really
going
to
impact
mostly
east
central,
which
is
a
cool
blow
cedar
street
in
those
particular
areas.
That's
where
the
plan
is
going
and
if
you
look
at
the
map,
you'll
see
where,
where
wagner
terrace
is
located
from
this
project.
B
It's
way
over
the
other
side,
you
know,
but
I
just
wanted
them
to
be
aware
of
what's
happening
in
the
magno
in
the
laura.
I
am
island
project,
so
I
spoke
with
them
and
I
said
well
I
need
you
all
to
go
to
all
these
different
entities
which
they
did,
but
they
were
meeting
with
these
various
neighbor
associates
not
yesterday,
almost
two
years
now
having
meetings
with
east
central
having
meetings
with
the
various
neighbor
association
before
all
the
time.
So
this
is
it
happened
yesterday.
B
B
That's
coming
because
it's
going
to
want
to
be
one
of
the
major
largest
project
that
the
city
have
ever
seen,
and
this
is
why
I
had
them
to
go
to
these
various
entities
to
explain
to
them,
since
they
are
neighborly
budding
these
areas,
so
they
can
actually
know
what's
happening
and
with
this
particular
project,
this
project
is
going
to
be
a
long-time
journal.
I
probably
won't
be
around
when
this
project
has
been
completed
or
even
halfway
completed.
B
You
know
so
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
wherever
the
best
we
can
get
this
deal
now
it's
going
to
be
and
peop
and
even
with
the
affordable
housing
piece.
This
is
going
to
be
grant
for
the
affordable
housing
piece
that
we
never
had
before
we're
going
to
have
so
many
units
there
that's
going
to
be
there
for
perpetuity
on
under
this
particular
project.
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
explain
that
to
everyone
that
I
was
meeting
with
them
all
the
time
always
meeting
with
them
and
something
happened
in
the
area
that
I
represent
and
had
them
to
go
out
to
these
other
entities
just
to
inform
them.
That
was
what
happened,
and
even
the
planning
commission
came
behind
me
and
did
the
same
thing
and
say:
go
back
to
these
entities
just
to
explain
what's
happening
in
these
particular
areas.
So
that's
why
they
went
back
out
and
the
planning
commission
approved
it.
Mr
chairman,.
C
Mitchell,
yes,
as
your
vice
chairman,
as
your
vice
chairman,
yes,
I
ask
a
procedural
question:
are
we
going
to
be
asked
to
vote
on
anybody?
Yes,
yes,
what?
What
will
be
the
nature
of
our
vote?
Are
we
being
asked
to
talk
to
make
recommendations
to
the
full
council
about
the
community
benefit
features,
especially
the
workforce,
housing
and
the
impact
on
the
surrounding
neighborhoods,
or
are
we
going
to
be
asked
to
recommend
the
entire
pet
proposal?
C
I
guess
I
would
suggest
that,
maybe,
as
the
community
development
committee,
that
we
focus
on
the
things
that
the
full
council
relies
on
our
evaluation
and
analysis-
and
you
know
and
targeted
study
to
the
community
development
features
of
the
of
the
of
the
pad
proposal,
I
I
I
mean
I
I
look
forward.
C
I've
said
in
several
sessions
now,
and
I
would
really
like
to
talk
a
little
more
thoroughly,
for
example
about
the
the
the
features
and
the
amenities
that
that
I've
heard
the
community
members
speak
to,
and
I
understand
from
the
two
cool
blow
related
meetings
that
I
wasn't
able
to
attend
the
singleton
park
and
the
improvements
to
cool
blow
as
a
pedestrian
accessible.
C
You
know
multimodal
street
were
really
some
of
the
things
that
were
discussed
at
great
length
among
the
among
the
community,
so
I
I
I
feel
responsible
as
a
community
development
committee
member
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
under
some
of
the
things
that
they're
that
that
you
know
are
being
featured
in
the
in
the
plan
are
really
not
under
the
full
control
of
the
development
group,
and
I
just
wrote
down.
C
I
I
think
I
heard
this
for
the
first
time
that
I
actually
heard
it
that
mr
mr
revere
said
that
coal
blow
improvements
are
developer
required
in
order
to
handle
the
access
to
the
density
that
you
all
plan
on
building
out.
That
requires
that
street.
C
So
that
was
good
news
that
you
know
it's
going
to
be
a
self-fulfilling
prophecy
of
needing
to
improve
cool
blow,
obviously
for
the
bridge,
but
also
the
the
accessibility
and
the
safety
of
that
street
for
the
neighborhood,
so
that
that's
just
an
example,
I
don't
know
anything
about
the
future
of
singleton
park.
I
I
but
I
do
understand
that
that's
really
important
to
the
community-
and
I
I
do
want
to
sort
of
you
know-
make
sure
that
we're
all
understanding
and
in
agreement
of
the
workforce,
housing
elements
to
the
to
the
pud.
B
Focuses
for
our
committee,
I'm
gonna
explain
the
singleton
park
to
you
and
I'll.
Let
and
I'm
gonna
call.
Councilman
sacramento
saw
his
hands
up
and
I'll
go
over
the
next
question
the
singleton
park
came
about
years
ago,
when
I
was
on
council
as
a
young.
A
young
young
boy
died
because
he
was
playing
in
this
building.
That
was
bacon
was
a
tire
company
around
the
corner
of
michigan
cedar
street
and
the
big
tire
failed
on
him
and
he
died
because
they
didn't
have
any
place
to
play.
B
So
scng
had
owned
the
property
with
the
singleton
parkers,
which
they
still
do,
dominion
on
it
now
and
the
city
went
to
them
and
asked
them.
Could
they
use
the
departure
use
the
area
for
a
park?
Scng
told
the
city?
No,
it
was
a.
It
was
a
gentleman
that
was
on
the
board
of
directors
at
this
at
the
united
way,
where
I
was
employed
and
I
went
and
spoke
with
him.
B
Mr
cal
mack
meekin
and
I
said
mr
macm-
I
need
a
park,
I
need
a
park
for
these
young
kids,
the
place
where
they
can
have
some
place
to
go.
I
said
please
help
me
with
this:
he
went
to
columbia
with
scng
because
he
was
a
big
person
in
scng
and
he
went
to
them
and
explained
my
situation
to
them
and
they
came
back
and
said:
okay,
I'll,
let
y'all
use
the
park
and
that's
how
this
park
became
came
forth,
and
so
we
had
the
young
gentleman.
B
We
had
family
members
there
and
we
named
the
park
after
the
young
boy
who
died,
that's
how
the
park
came
about,
but
we
still
do
not
own
the
park.
But
what
they're
trying
to
do
now
is
get
possession
of
that
area
so
that
the
park
will
be
a
community
park
and
they
would
have
the
park
for
duration
and
that's
how
that
park
became
about.
So
that's
one
entity,
but
I'm
going
to
let
councilman
sacrament
first
I
saw
his
hand
first,
then
I
go
to
councilman
gregory,
then
I'll.
H
H
I
think
that
their
concerns-
and
maybe
this
is
just
a
a
request
of
of
of
the
developers-
is
if
you
could
somehow
put
together
a
list
of
things
that
are
non-negotiable,
that
aren't
going
to
change
for
folks,
I
think
that's
their
concern
is,
and
I've
heard
this
you
know
verbatim,
you
know
the
number
of
affordable
housing
units
will
change.
The
number
of
parks
that
they're
going
to
provide
will
change.
H
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we
can
get
something
out
to
constituents,
it's
not
just
wagner
terrace
but
north
central
hampton
park
terrace,
and
I
and
I
and
I
do
have
to
take
issue
chairman.
You
know
this
is
a
project.
That's
a
large
project.
That's
gonna
be
on
the
peninsula,
certainly
in
your
in
your
neck
of
the
woods,
but
in
terms
of
scope
and
size
and
traffic.
This
is
going
to
affect
the
entire
peninsula.
H
B
For
five,
I
understand
what
you're
saying
council
member,
but
if
I,
if
it
wasn't
involved
in
it
in
years
that
I
was
involved
in
it
and
had
them
to
go
out
to
these
neighborhood
association
before
then
I
would
say
yes,
but
they
these
various
and
various
neighborhood
association,
was
informed
years
ago
before
you
got
on
council
about
this
plan,
which
was
going
to
be
until
the
plan,
and
then
you
have
new
people
moving
in,
so
they
want
to
find
out
some
differently
things,
but
this
was
already
done
a
couple
years
ago.
H
B
Essence,
that's
that's
it,
so
we
can
do
that
also
that'll,
be
something
that
is
to
be
informed,
because
I
want
them
to
be
informed.
The
other
communities
to
be
informed
what's
happening
because
it's
going
to
be
a
big
project,
a
lot
very
large
project,
and
so
that's
why
they
were
sent
to
these
neighborhood
association
to
make
sure
that
they
understand
what
was
coming
forth.
I
think
I
said
councilman
gregory
beef.
E
Agree
with
you
this
this
has
been
going
on
for
years,
and
I
do
think
that
you
said
something
key.
There
are
a
lot
of
new
people
coming
to
the
neighborhood
who
may
not
have
been
exposed
and
that's
gonna
happen
forever
guys.
I
only
got
one
email
from
a
wagner
terrorist
person,
one
email
and
that
had
to
do
with
the
the
total
number
of
units
that
were
being
built,
but
I
think
that
sometimes
we
go
beyond
the
the
I'm
trying
to
find
the
right
word.
E
I
think
that
we
could
be
going
through
this
if
every
time
someone
has
an
issue,
we
sort
of
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
I
think,
as
a
concept,
it's
very
clear.
E
What
we're
talking
about
really
is
a
new
town
in
town,
an
area
that
basically
to
me,
will
be
pretty
much
self-contained
work
live
play.
Everything
can
be
be
be
done
there,
so
I
am
going
to
support
it
in
its
totality
to
be
recommend
that
the
concept
to
be
recommended
to
council.
My
question,
though,
is:
can
we
put
a
price
tag?
When
I
say
not
a
price
tag,
can
we
put
a
cost
on
on
permanent
affordability?
B
J
Council
member,
this
is
gianna
we're
working
on
that
now:
okay,
we're
basically
looking
at
what
it
costs
for
an
average
unit
and
a
multi-family
development
just
based
on
what
don
cameron's
doing
and
some
of
the
other
partners.
The
mayor
asked
a
similar
question
a
few
weeks
ago
and
looking
at
how
we
do
that
proficiently,
because
we
certainly
assess
costs
currently
and
literally
attempt
to
multiply
that
cost
out
over
x
number
of
years
again,
because
this
is
perpetuity,
then
that
says
to
the
formula
there's
no
end
to
those
years.
E
I
mean
and,
and
the
the
last
thing
is
you
know,
I
do
think
that
this
is
something
guys
y'all.
Everybody
says
that
they're
not
gonna
live
to
see
this.
G
The
the
process
on
the
finishing
touches
of
kubla
are
handled
separately,
the
the
approval
of
that
is
handled
totally
separately
from
this
and
have
never
planned
to
change
the
width
of
cool
blow,
particularly
in
front
of
one
cool
blow,
and
it
actually
because
we
get
the
we
hope
to
get
the
such
the
old
substation
in
the
corner
food
blow
and
meeting
street
that
we
can
actually
widen
a
meeting
stream
and
but
that's
going
to
be
a
city
process,
a
public
process
and
sometime
in
the
future.
G
M
G
Did
agree
to
certain
stipulations
that
the
planning
commission
came
up
with,
which
were
some
of
the
things
I
think
that
council
member
sacrament
was
talking
about.
We
can
we'd
be
glad
to
get
you
a
list.
I
mean
that
that's
not
an
issue
we'll
get
that
councilmember
sacramento
and
send
it
to
you,
but
this
has
an
awful
lot
of
control
in
it
and
that
begins
with
the
height
that
begins,
but
for
the
first
time
ever
we're
using
traffic
generator
generated
as
a
limitation
of
density.
G
You
know,
in
other
words,
as
we
get
ready
to
build
something.
We've
got
to
do
another
traffic
study
to
prove
that
we
have
not
let
any
street
drop
below
right,
right
and
us
acceptable
levels,
accessible
level
and
service.
So
that
too
is
ongoing.
I
mean
that
it's
not
like
these
things.
Don't
come
back
up
for
discussion
because
d.o.t
is
going
to
force
you
to
do
it,
but
we
don't
want
to
blow
up
our
traffic
because
then,
who
would
want
to
live?
There
is
a
simple
answer.
C
Yeah
I
I
appreciate,
I
appreciate
that
mr
clement
and
I
I'm
just
trying
to
sort
of
manage
expectations,
especially
as
you
know
this.
This
committee
for
the
council
deals
with
public
interest
that
that
far
extends
or
exceeds.
You
know
what
what
often
we
can
provide
with
the
city's
actual
resources.
So
I
I
just
I
don't
want
it
all
to
be
identified
in
the
mind
of
the
citizens,
especially
those
people
who
have
come
out
to
the
community
meetings,
that
this
is
a
whole
package
that
that
they're
gonna
see
overnight.
C
So
I
maybe
a
a
good
example
of
that
is
I
I
understand
that
we
have.
I
don't
even
know
if
it's
an
actual
option
to
buy
the
property.
That's
now
known
as
singleton
park,
and
if
we
do
is
that
going
to
be
part
of
the
tif
funds
that
have
to
be
predicted
or
how
are
we
actually
going
to
manage?
I
think
I
heard
the
number
two
million
dollar
purchase
for
the
for
the
land,
where
we
would
want
to
put
a
public.
G
D
F
Well,
singleton
park
is
the
park
that
the
city
really
has
wanted
to
have
permanent
control
of
ever.
I
remember
ever
since
I
worked
in
the
90s
and
it
belongs
it
to
dominion,
and-
and
so
I
think
robert
described
it
well
that
you
know
when
I
was
looking
for
a
substitute
property
for
someone
else.
I
asked
dominion
about
that.
Little
worn
out
substation,
they
have
a
block
away
from
leading
street
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
danny
kansas
and
he
said
well
mayor.
F
If
we
moved
over
here,
we've
got
to
put
the
substation
somewhere
else,
and
the
only
other
property
we
have
is
is
singleton
park
that
y'all
rent
from
us
or
that
we
give
you
for
a
dollar
a
year
or
whatever.
It
is
so
that
led
to
this
whole
discussion
of
trying
to
find
some
other
sites
where
they
could
locate
their
infrastructure
so
that
we'd
have
the
opportunity
to
buy
the
property
one
day.
F
C
I
appreciate
all
of
that.
I
I'm
just
you
know
listening
into
what
the
community
is
is
thinking
about,
and
I
do
feel
like
it's
incumbent
on
all
of
us
and
especially
the
council,
to
manage
those
expectations
because
we
don't
want
to
you
know
we
don't
want
to
be
approving
something
that
we
know
is
going
to
have
other
phases
of
opportunities
and
and
improvements
that
we're
not
going
to
be
saying
yes
to
day
one.
So
that's
just
another
example.
What
well
I
have
before.
C
I
just
want
to
have
one
more
question
and
answer
about
what
is
in,
which
is
the
workforce.
Housing
percentage-
and
I
know
council
member
louis,
I
mean
mitchell.
So
sorry,
you've
done
an
amazing
job
of
keeping
your
own.
C
B
Instead
of
excuse
me
councilman,
but
councilman
is
wearing
put
your
phone
on
mute
because
we
can
hear
you
talking.
I'm
sorry
about
that
counsel.
Councilwoman.
C
No
problem,
so
I'm
almost
done
so.
Basically
what
I
understand
and
christopher
morgan
affirmed
this
to
me
today
was
that
at
the
end
of
the
planning
commission,
we
are
happy
to
accept
the
20
as
the
guaranteed
amount
of
workforce
units
split
into
the
two
components:
10
will
be
permanent,
10
will
be
for
10
years,
and
the
10-year
clock
will
essentially
ride
on
every
unit
as
it
receives
its
certificate
of
occupancy.
C
J
But
the
clerk's
office
wanted
me
to
clarify
the
fact
that
there
is
typically
an
endorsement,
a
vote
by
cd
committee
city
committee
of
city
council,
of
their
approval
of
what's
been
presented
today.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
clarity
and
thank
you,
councilwoman
jackson,
for
bringing
the
matter
out
relative
to
when
the
clock
started
in
relation
to
the
10-year
affordability
period.
That
was
one
other
item
that
was
changed
from
the
original
plan
at
the
planning
commission
meeting.
So
thank
you.
B
All
in
favor
paul
for
the
question
first,
mr.
L
Thank
you
all.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
appreciate
it.
I'm
not
going
to
hold
us
up
too
much
longer.
I
just
want
to
briefly
say
a
couple
things
number
one.
You
know
from
someone
with
a
zoning
and
land
use
background
I
mean
this
is
this
is
a
dream
you
know
of
urban
planning?
This
is
what
you
know.
This
is
what
smart
good
development
looks
like
it's
until
it's
mixed
use
its
affordable
housing.
L
It
hits
it
hits
up
all
the
it
checks,
all
the
boxes
and
what
I
would
also
say
to
the
questions
about
those
concerned
about
you,
know,
specificity
in
terms
of
land
use
and
things
like
that.
Zoning,
by
its
very
nature,
has
flexibility
built
into
it.
I
mean
think
about
how
many
parcels
we
have
in
the
city
of
charleston
today
that
are
zone
gb,
right,
general
business.
I
mean
the
list
of
what
can
go
into.
L
Gb
is
a
mile
long,
so
there's
always
going
to
be
some
flexibility
and
some
leeway
in
zoning
ordinances.
It's
inherent
in
the
process,
so
what
I
think
is
important
to
fixate
on
is
what
is
what
we've
heard
from
tonight
about?
What's
not
negotiable,
you
know,
what's
what
is
fixed?
It's
the
affordable
housing,
it's
the
it's!
The
open
space
park
elements,
it's
the
tying
development
to
traffic
and
transportation
infrastructure,
which
we
don't
do
elsewhere.
That'll,
be
a
major
improvement
for
this
development.
L
So
just
long
story
short,
I
mean
I
I
can't
be
in
favor
of
this
more
and
I
think
the
development
team
has
done
an
excellent
job,
shepherding
this
through
the
process
and,
frankly,
if
these
guys
haven't
done
enough
public
outreach,
I
I
don't
know
how
much
public
outreach
we're
expecting
of
people.
So
I'm
going
to
vote
in
favor
of
this
tonight.
B
Any
more
questions
before
we
constantly
wearing
maybe
a
call
for
the
question.
I
All
right,
you
know,
I
just
got
a
couple
of
questions.
I
guess
I
see
it
has
its
own
bar
in
the
event
that
you
know
10
years
down
the
road
you
get
a
dispute
with
a
zoning
issue,
a
developer
building
something
on
the
island
and
the
bar,
and
it
ends
up
in
litigation.
I
O
Can
council,
member
weary
that
that's
a
great
question
and
just
the
way
this
the
way
the
live
art
it's
called
laurel
island
board
of
architectural
review
will
work.
It's
a
five
person
body,
two
people
appointed
by
the
city,
three
people
appointed
by
the
laurel
island
community
association,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
public
meeting
that
the
city's
going
to
notice,
so
the
public
will
be
able
to
attend
it
just
like
they
can
attend
a
regular
bar
or
a
bza.
Or
what
have
you
meetings
if
there's
an
appeal
from
that
lie
bar?
O
It's
then
heard
by
the
city
of
charleston's
bar
large?
Okay.
So
then
it
goes
to
the
bar
that
that
we
all
know
and
it
it
acts
as
an
appellate
body.
Just
like
it
would
be
an
appellate
body
if,
if
when
dennis
dowd
was
the
city's
architect
and
he
made
a
staff
decision
or
even
when
mr
bellow
was
the
city's
architect
and
he
made
a
staff
decision
and
those
decisions
are
appealed
to
the
bar,
the
live
artists
will
be
appealed
much
the
same
way
to
the
city's
ear.
Large,
okay,.
O
I
O
O
I
don't
think
really
anything
in
our
pod
would
meet
the
minor
amendment
requirements
and
we
had
some
language
that
did,
but
we're
going
to
take
that
out.
So
really,
any
amendment
of
consequence
would
go
through
the
same
putt
amendment
process,
which
is
the
same
process.
You
have
to
do
to
get
a
putt
anyway,
it's
planning,
commission,
council
committees,
the
whole
the
whole
drill
all
over
again.
E
B
Clements
and
his
staff,
if.
G
G
Very
much
and
your
advice
and
council
member
sacrament
we'll
get
with
you
about
the
list
you
want.
Thank
you
I'm
going
to
do
the
wrong.
Thank
all
of
you.