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City of Charleston Committee Community Development 1/28/2021
A
B
B
C
D
A
D
C
A
G
Yes,
sir
chairman,
thank
you.
Let's
pray,
we
we
lift
you
up
today.
We
ask
your
favor
for
this
body
of
decision
makers
and
presenters
and
the
business
of
of
your
city
and
especially
as
we
choose
and
are
trying
to
be
as
vigilant
and
persistent
and
ever
mindful
of
serving
the
community,
and
especially
the
least
so
help
us
to
have
that
goal
in
mind.
As
we
do
your
business
in
your
name,
we
pray,
amen,
amen.
A
B
A
I
F
A
D
Well,
mr
chairman
and
committee
members,
if
I
may
just
looking
at
the
agenda,
could
could
we
go
ahead
and
allow
the
folks
who
signed
up
to
make
a
public
comment
to
proceed?
They
they?
That
was
the
first
thing
on
our
agenda
and
I
think
that's
right.
They
wanted
to
make
a
short
few
comments
and
then
we'll
could
proceed
with
alan's
presentation,
which
is
a
the
first
item
of
new
business
on
the
agenda.
The
cooper
river
bridge
redevelopment
area.
J
K
H
K
K
K
So
I
know
that
you
all
all
understand
the
very
profound
social,
environmental
and
economic
benefits
of
the
low
line.
One
of
the
things
that
we
don't
talk
a
lot
about
is
the
last
one,
which
is
the
economic
benefits.
So
I
want
to
touch
on
that.
Just
briefly,
some
of
you,
some
of
the
council
members,
participated
in
the
the
session
learning
about
the
beltline
in
atlanta
and
I
think,
if
we
look
at
other
projects
like
the
beltline,
like
the
high
line
like
the
606.
K
K
I
want
to
talk
about
is
that
we
have
identified
a
phase
one
construction
project
and
that
construction
project
is
what
we
call
low
line
park
and
I
think
megan
has
a
an
image
that
we
can
look
at.
So
low
line
park
is
located
just
north
of
line
street
and
we
chose
that
location
for
a
number
of
reasons,
but,
most
importantly,
it
will
directly
serve
the
west
side
neighborhood
and
the
east
side
neighborhood.
K
It
will
also
serve
the
new
low
country,
low-lying
public
housing
project.
That
is
on
your
agenda
for
discussion
later
this
evening.
So
that's
where
we'll
start
it's
centrally
located.
It
serves
some
neighborhoods
that
traditionally
haven't
not
seen
a
lot
of
investment.
So
we're
very
excited
about
that.
We
see
our
phase
one
extending
all
the
way
to
hugey
street.
K
The
next
point
I
want
to
make
is
that
we're
ready
to
start
now.
We
have
made
a
commitment.
One
of
our
board.
Members
has
challenged
us
to
start
construction
in
2021,
so
we're
prepared
to
break
ground
this
year
and
what
that
means
as
well
is
that
the
ribbon
cutting
for
phase
one
would
happen
next
year.
K
K
No
sir,
a
couple
more,
I'm
the
only
one
talking
so
if
I
can
have
their
their
minutes,
then
we'll
be
good.
The
next
one
is
that
the
friends
is
prepared
to
handle
the
project
so
we'll
take
it
from
beginning
to
end,
which
means
we're
not
going
to
place
any
additional
burdens
on
city
staff.
We've
worked
very
closely
with
with
the
city
on
this,
and
we
know
how
busy
everybody
is
so
we'll
be
able
to
take
this
on
and
make
it
happen.
D
So
was
there
any
public
comments,
so
if
we
could
ask
alan
davis
to
share
some
work
of
staff
and
I'll
just
give
a
quick
preface,
mr
chairman,
that
we
have
a
lot
of
demands
in
the
cooper
river
bridge
district
district,
but
fortunately
the
the
district
is
performing
and
allows
us
to
to
to
issue
an
additional
bond
this
year,
and
so
what
I
did.
I
knew
that
the
low
line
that
this
could
be
a
potential
funding
source
to
kind
of
jump,
start
it
and
get
it
started.
D
But
with
all
fairness,
of
course,
we
have
to
look
at
our
other
needs
in
the
district.
Of
course,
this
wouldn't
be
the
only
potential
funding
source
for
us
to
help
get
the
low
line
jump
started
but
and
and
alan
I
don't
know-
do
you
have
also
the
figures
of
the
first
issuance
of
the
bond
just
to
remind
the
committee
members,
what
we've
done
to
date,
I
think
the
first
issuance
a
year
and
a
half
two
years
ago
was
12
million
dollars.
J
D
J
D
D
So
so,
while
they're
pulling
that
up
broad
categories
under
affordable
housing
of
the
initial
12
million
dollar
bond,
we
issued
about
a
fourth
of
it
or
three.
Just
a
little.
Over
three
million
dollars
went
to
affordable
housing
projects,
and
most
all
of
that
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
gianna,
is
firmly
committed
and
and
will
be
spent
shortly.
If
it
hadn't
been
spent
already,
isn't
that
correct.
D
That's
right,
so
the
next
big
category
was
drainage
and
storm
water
and
total
various
projects
were
four
million.
Seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
now
to
be
honest
with
you,
we
have
a
balance
so
to
speak
for
future
construction.
It's
almost
like
we're
saving
a
little
money
like
we
did
for
the
low
battery
seawall
until
matt
fountain
and
his
team
complete
the
recommendations
and
design
and
engineering
of
specific
projects.
D
But
we've
got
that
aecom
just
completed
their
survey
of
the
area
and
so
that's
a
work
in
progress,
but
that's
money
that
probably
won't
get
spent
for
another
year
or
two.
The
next
category
was
pedestrian
safety
of
about
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
We
started
the
brigade
stream
project
this
week
and
the
morrison
drive
project
should
be
starting
relatively
soon
and
then.
D
D
The
district
is
performing
very
well
and
we've
had
independent
estimates
that
over
the
next
six
years,
or
so
that
the
the
district
could
could
generate
35
to
40
million
dollars
for
infrastructure
improvements
in
this
district.
So
some
good
things
to
come
so
alan
take
it
away
for
the
potential
projects.
J
J
We
need,
on
a
regular
basis
to
implement
projects
in
the
area,
focus
on
design
in
the
area
and
there's
a
lot
a
lot
of
other
projects,
as
this
committee
is
familiar
with
that
that
this
that
that
team
is
responsible
for
bringing
to
fruition.
You
know
as
part
of
my
work
with
the
lowline.
It's
been
great
working
with
them
to
produce
the
lowline
master
plan.
J
So
we
we
undertook
a
prioritization
exercise
just
to
familiarize
everyone
and
anyone
in
the
public
who
is
watching
the
cooper
river
bridge.
Tiff
district
is
located
generally
north
of
the
east
side.
In
fact,
it
contains
part
of
the
east
side
and
it's
sort
of
in
the
middle
of
the
peninsula
near
the
ravenel
bridge.
A
lot
of
the
prioritization
that
we
went
through
was
actually
turned
out
to
be
very
extensive
and
and
had
categories
relative
to
the
original
tif
goals,
from
the
from
the
original
ordinance.
J
The
ability
to
implement
projects,
whether
or
not
we
have
existing
or
potential
stakeholder
buy-in
equity
was
a
big
component
of
these
of
this
prioritization
and
then
planning
adoption
isn't
mentioned
or
endorsed
in
an
adopted
plan.
For
example,
I
mentioned
the
cross
sector
collaboration
team
and
these
are
really
the
four
main
departments
that
that
represent
that
or
that
team
represents.
So
you
have
every
again
everyone
that's
involved
with
the
built
environment.
J
J
We
also
allocated
a
cost
estimate.
This
is
a
ballpark
cost
estimate.
We
did
not
have
time
to
to
get
the
detailed
cost
estimate
for
each
of
these
projects.
We
think
we
hit
it
pretty
close
to
the
mark.
We
also
added
some
general
time
frames
in
terms
of
the
project
readiness.
We
reported
that
to
you,
sir.
As
you
know,
this
is
the
resultant
prioritization
in
terms
of
the
ranking.
I
got
60
million
dollars
at
least
worth
of
needs
in
the
entire
area.
J
So
certainly
a
lot
more
work
left
to
do
in
the
district.
We
I
just
for
everyone's
reference.
I
do
have
a
map
available,
I'm
not
going
to
go,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
that
now,
but,
as
you
can
see,
just
generally,
most
of
these
projects
fall
within
the
actual
cooper
river
bridge
tiff
district,
and
that
includes
phase
one
of
the
low
line
falls
within
the
district
and
then
mayor,
are
you
ready
for
me
to
show
the
summarize
prioritization
from
today's
exercise?
D
J
Sure,
yes,
sir,
and
I'm
happy
to
explain
any
of
these
projects
to
the
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge.
They
come
from
a
variety
of
of
departments,
and
you
know
so
so
I
I
I'll
call
on
my
colleagues
to
explain
if
I
can't
fully
explain
them.
Would
you
like
me
to
go
item
by
item
or
just
allow
people
to
take
the
time
to
read
them.
A
Once
I
think,
once
the
everyone
is
looking
at
it,
they
can,
if
they
have
a
question
about
my
particular
item
they
can
go
through,
is
to
go
through
one
by
one.
I
think
they're
going
to
be
here
all
day.
I
think
we
just
need
to
look
at
it
very
carefully,
because
it's
a
lot
of
money,
60
million
dollars
and.
A
G
Thanks,
thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you,
mr
davis.
It's
really
great
to
you
know,
try
to
jump
into
y'all's
brains
about
the
prioritization
strategy,
and
I
I
I
would
think
it
would
be
very
educational
for
us
to
see
a
little
more
detail
about
that
as
you
could
send
it.
Just
you
know
your
point
categories
and
things
like
that,
because
I
think
this
is
a
tool
that
we
really
do
need
to
use,
because
we
have
so
much.
G
You
know
to
be
deciding
about
all
over
the
city
and
the
region,
but
I
I'm
just
looking
at
the
two
different
major
investments
in
stormwater
and
and
water
management
improvements.
Let's
call
it
so
you
lump
together.
I
guess
general
stormwater
improvements
as
a
very
high
priority
with
a
long,
a
long
shelf
life
essentially
and
I'm
wondering
it
and
then
and
then
the
dialogues,
water
management,
open
space
east
of
america
street
is
called
out
as
its
own
separate
improvement.
G
J
Absolutely
that's
a
really
good
question
and
they
really
should
be
merged
because
we
think
holistically
about
all
of
the
stormwater
needs
in
the
entire
district.
The
the
stormwater
department
has
undertaken
a
study
with
aecom
to
study
the
cooper
and
jackson
drainage
basins,
which
encompass
the
majority
of
this
area,
they're
starting
to
come
up
with
a
collection
of
projects
right
now,
they've
done
a
lot
of
modeling
on
that,
and
and
so
what
they're
showing?
J
Is
that
and
not
not
necessarily
15
million
dollars,
but
potentially
up
to
25
million
dollars
worth
of
needs
in
the
area?
And
so
we
don't
quite
know
exactly
where
that
number
is
going
to
fall.
But
we
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
stormwater.
Work
is
still
needed
in
the
district,
and
that
was
widely
mentioned
in
the
original
ordinance.
J
The
dutch
dialogues
open
space
east
of
america
street
is
a
standalone
project
because
simply
it
came
from
a
different
department
and
division
that
came
from
from
my
shop
as
a
way
to
implement
the
recommendations
of
the
dutch
dialogues
in
that
area.
That's
currently
composed
of
surface
parking,
so
it
really
just
matt
fountain
and
I
work
more
closely
together
and-
and
you
know,
you
know
just
categorize
those
projects
a
little
bit
differently.
That's
the
only
reason
why
that
one's
called
out
differently.
D
J
No,
it
doesn't
that's
a
great
question
also
that
that
portion
of
the
dutch
dialogue's
recommendation
was
essentially
just
a
diagram,
but
a
very
illustrative
and
telling
diagram
about
how
we
need
to
manage
the
low-lying
areas
in
the
district.
The
humanities
foundation
parcels
are
are
west
of
america
street,
so
this
would
be
east
of
america
street.
A
L
Thank
you
chair
just
two
quick
questions
just
to
to
piggyback
on
and
councilwoman
jackson's
question
about
the
prioritization
I'd
like
to
understand.
For
example,
you
know
the
low
line
phase
two
and
the
phase
1a
that
have
scored
at
504
480,
respectively
how's,
that
different
than
in
the
cooper
street
extension
that
scores
773.
L
J
I'll
take
your
last
question
and
I
I
I
feel
free
to
any
of
my
colleagues
feel
free.
But
to
add
to
this
you
know,
mr
sacrament.
I
can't
walk
down
the
street
of
this
city
without
thinking
and
seeing
of
something
that
needs
to
be
fixed,
and
so
you
know
this
is
certainly
not
an
exhaustive
list.
I
mean
you
know.
J
This
is
just
city
staff
getting
together
and
saying
you
know
what
are
the
big
things
that
are
in
the
ordinance
business
left,
undone
things
that
we
know
about
that.
The
neighborhood
may
have
asked,
for
you
know
a
sidewalk,
for
example,
that
is
incomplete,
so
yeah.
There
are
certainly
more
projects
that
we
could
add
to
this
list,
but
this
is
a.
This
is
a
pretty
good
one.
J
So
far
on
the
first
one,
I'm
happy
to
share
how
we
put
how
we
actually
ranked
and
prioritize
these,
but
it
is
not
overly
scientific.
You
know
these
projects
have
are
widely
ranging
in
the
level
of
detail
that
we
have
about
them.
So
you
know
the
low
line,
for
example,
as
scott
was
saying
earlier,
they've
done
an
extensive
cost
estimation
and
phasing
and
I've
been
part
of
that
project,
and
so
they
are
pretty
far
along
in
terms
of
the
readiness.
J
J
The
meeting
needs
some
help
and
so
because
there's
they're
so
different
from
one
another
in
terms
of
their
readiness
and
and
preliminary
study
and
and
they've
gone
out
to
different
members
of
the
cross
sector,
collaboration
team-
it
was
really
just
based
on
where
they
think
they
rank
according
to
these
criteria
and
the
criteria
were
weighted
only
slightly
differently.
I
I
can
look
into
how
they
were
weighted
and
give
you
a
more
specific
answer
on
that.
A
The
east
side
tip
could
only
be
used
for
projects
on
the
east
side,
east
side
of
the
city
and
when
we
started
talking
about
the
east
side
to
be
added
into
the
drink
added
the
drainage
in
there,
because
it
was
mostly
trying
to
get
more
affordable
housing.
If
you
made
in
that
particular
area
and
with
the
flooding,
it
was
happening
on
the
east
side
with
american
street
columbus
street
line
street
and
all
the
others
in
the
area.
Then
we
kind
of
added
the
flood
and
storm
water
into
that
part
of
the
tip.
A
Also,
so
that's
what
taking
a
lot
of
money
and
then
they
extended
the
trip
down
on
huge
street
at
50
may
a
little.
So
all
that's
a
part
of
what
they
call
the
east
side
character
because
of
money
can
only
be
used
for
that
particular
area.
It
cannot
be
used
outside
the
area
like
on
the
west
side
anywhere
else,
so
you
have
so
much
projects,
that's
that
was
on
the
east
side.
A
Anyway,
you
know
when
we
first
started
with
the
tiff
and
trying
to
get
the
tip
to
try
to
get
the
money
to
be
able
to
solve
some
of
these
problems
that
they
have
on
the
east
side
of
dma,
that
just
a
little
kind
of
little
quick
little
background
of
some
of
the
things
that
we
started
when
we
first
came
up
with
it
chairman.
Do
we
have
any
questions.
J
M
J
J
H
H
Yes,
sir,
I
was
only
gonna
add
when
we
thought
about
equity.
We
thought
about
fairness
for
the
community
in
particular,
and
making
that
community
whole
one
of
the
things
that
we've
done
over
many
years
and
looking
at
the
east
side
and
collaborating
with
that
community
is
heard.
The
concerns
of
the
residents
that
live
there
and
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
make
sure
of
when
we
were
looking
at
these
various
activities
and
projects
that
needed
to
be
implemented
in
this
community
that
one
allen
identified
some.
C
And
I
think,
and
I
think
that
I
think
that's
a
great
way
to
to
look
at
it
and
I
think
as
a
city
as
we
move
forward
and
we
include
equity
and
something
that
we're
going
to
look
at.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
consistent
across
the
board
and
that's
why
I'm
saying
I
think,
there's
a
need
for
a
discussion
with
amber.
E
E
Take
some
of
the
run
of
the
blame
of
pressing
for
this
piece
to
be
in
here
in
terms
of
its
measurement.
These
are
conversations
I've
had
with
amber
many
times,
but
you
know,
at
least
in
in
part,
in
terms
of
statements
that
have
been
made,
the
outlining
of
equities
definition
and
otherwise
I
think
it
has
been
outlined
in
a
number
of
different
ways,
including
in
the
city-wide
transport
plan.
C
B
A
A
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
to
ask
a
question
here.
So
one
of
my
questions
about
the
matrix
and
the
ranking
system
is:
are
we
getting
any
consideration
to
how
a
specific
redevelopment
project
will
lead
to
further
growth,
further
development
which
will
further
kind
of
feed
the
tif,
in
other
words,
something
that
has
like
a
a
roi
with
respect
to
tax
base?
So,
for
example,
the
low
line
like
one
of
the
big
benefits
with
that
project
is
the
development
that
it'll
help.
N
O
Yo
I
got
back
on
the
line,
I'm
having
trouble.
I
got
a
brand
new
computer
and
I
don't
know
whether
it's
got
a
short
or
something
in
it.
So
I
apologize
for
this
went
dark
on
you
guys.
The
last
time
I
was
on
the
line
here,
we
were
being
told
how
the
priority
list
was
put
together,
but
mister
tim
I
had
a
couple
of
is
this:
just
for
information?
Are
we
supposed
to
be
voting
on
something
today.
O
Well,
well,
maybe
before
we
get
to
that
next
line.
Let
me
at
first
glance,
when
I
looked
at
this
information,
a
couple
of
things
popped
up
to
me.
I
you
know
they
got
a
priority
waiting
things
here,
but
I'm
going
to
tell
you,
let's
just
say
from
an
individual
standpoint.
When
I
look
at
the
overall
city,
I
think
affordable
housing
is
one
and
I
think
drainage
is
1a,
so
you
can
have
1a
being
affordable
housing,
one
and
one
a
being
drainage,
but
they
almost
interchangeable.
O
Well,
we
just
got
through
talking
about
a
little
more
than
one
acre
site.
That's
not
too
terribly
far
from
this
district
for
12.5
or
12.6
million
dollars.
For
one
acre
of
land
and
we're
talking
in
five
to
eight
years,
when
our
area
will
still
continue
to
appreciate
we're
not
going
to
get
much
for
five
million
dollars
and
when
I
look
at
the
drainage
until
we
make
a
decision
on
this,
I
think
the
cooper
jackson
basins.
We
need
to
know
some
numbers
on
that
before
we
commit
dollars.
O
The
way
I
see
this,
I
see
the
spending
as
being
low-lying
and
then
somewhat
affordable,
housing
and
then
drainage,
and
I
think,
for
those
who
are
new
to
council,
we
prior
to
being
able
to
get
that
additional
money.
From
the
step
on
september
17
o'clock
spring
fish
burn,
we
had
to
commit
potentially
five
years
of
stormwater
monies
that
would
have
been
spent
west,
ashley,
james
allen
and
john's
island
to
complete.
O
September
spring
fishbring,
so
it
was
a
glorious
day
when
there
was
that
22.5
million
came
in
and
this
tif
was
going
to
have
helped
some
with
some
of
that
now.
Fortunately,
we've
got
more
tiff
money,
but
it
showed
you
the
priority
that
drainage
had
to
the
point
to
where
all
resources
was
going
to
go
to
finish
a
200
million
dollar
project,
and
rightly
so.
It
was
that
major
that
major
of
arctic
artery
running
through
town.
O
But
when
you
look
at
the
cooper
and
jackson
basins,
I
mean
you
literally,
have
people
sloshing
through
water
up
to
their
shins,
if
not
higher,
approaching
their
knees.
So
how
can
we
move
forward
on
a
spending
list
on
this
and
we
don't
even
know
what
cooper
the
estimates
were
as
much
as
25
million
dollars
so
and
that's
before
we
even
look
at
any.
I
really
think
we
need
to
have
a
full
handle
on
every
drainage
project
that
could
possibly
secure
some
funding
out
of
this
particular
tiff
before
we
now.
O
This
is
just
for
information,
then
I'm
taking
up
everybody's
time,
but
if
we're
going
to
have
a
vote
on
a
priority,
we
need
to
have
more
time
and
more.
I
think
information,
because
I
don't
understand
the
the
scoring
system
here,
because
I
don't
really
I
mean
to
me
housing,
drainage
and
then
obviously
low
line
and
that
priority
not
low
line,
housing
and
drainage,
because
the
housing
is
woefully
underfunded.
O
So
now
I'm
going
for
we're
going
to
have
to
have
a
pot
of
money
to
go
out
and
acquire
land
which
is
going
to
be
very
arduous
process,
so
we're
kidding
ourselves
over
over
five
to
eight
years
from
now
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
get
any
serious
locations
with
with
five
million
dollars.
So
that's
my
take
on
that.
If
it's
for
information,
I'm
sorry,
I
took
too
much
time,
but
if
it
is
for
a
vote
today,
I
would
not
vote
on
this
not
on
this
spending
priority.
A
O
Don't
know
if
this
would
qualify,
but
we
need
to
see
the
6.9
that
we
committed
to
king
huge,
that's
not
the
entire
bill
for
that
to
be
fixed
entirely.
That's
not
the
100
percent
fixed
on
that
they're
going
to
be
additional
costs,
even
after
that's
done
that
I
don't
know
that
we
have
a
handle
on
so
I
I
would
be
intimidated
on
voting
on
something
like
this
without
so
much
information
that
we
don't
have.
C
Because
I
think
we
have
to
go
back
to
councilman
appel's
question
and
that
question
is
what
kind
of
developments
may
occur
as
a
result
of
these
these
projects
and
the
the
second
thing
is,
while
I
agree
with
housing,
drainage
I'd
like
to
also
know
how
many
jobs
are
going
to
be
created,
we're
talking,
equity,
how
many
jobs
are
going
to
be
created
for
the
residents
in
the
area,
and
I'm
not
talking
about
temporary
job.
I'm
talking
about
permanent
job
to
me,
jobs
has
to
be,
and
it
may
be.
C
We
need
to
go
back
to
the
factors,
but
I
think
it
needs
to
also
be
a
factor,
especially
when
we're
discussing
equity
I
mean
equity
goes
beyond
housing.
Okay,
it
also
goes
towards
being
intentional
with
regard
to
developments
that
will
assist
those
folks
that
are
in
need-
and
I
think
it's
a
very
important
factor
in
making
decisions.
Now
I
understand
that
a
lot
of
this
is
based
upon
who
may
be
shovel
ready
people
who
are
ready
to
go
right
now,
which
of
course,
I'm
sure
should
be
a
factor,
but.
D
Well,
I
appreciate
all
of
those
comments
and
I
I
think
staff
has
tried
to
look
at
this
very
broadly
councilmember
gregory,
and
this
is
a
wide
variety
of
needs
and
so
yeah.
This
is
just
for
your
consideration
today
and,
of
course,
we
don't
have
60
million
dollars
to
spend
right
now.
This
is
something
we're
projecting
over.
You
know
an
extended
period
of
time.
We
will
have
12
million
dollars
to
spend
this
year
from
from
the
60.
You
might
say,
that's
what
miss
wharton
has
projected.
D
It
could
be
more
than
that,
once
we
get
to
april
when
we
get
our
numbers
from
the
county
and
we
we
see
what
the
real
assessments
were
for
for
2020.
By
the
way,
some
some
folks
have
estimated
that,
rather
than
12,
we
might
be
able
to
garner
15
or
16
million
from
this
district
this
year.
So
this,
I
wouldn't
say
it's
a
moving
target,
but
these
are
just
considerations
for
your.
D
You
know
for
what's
to
come
out
of
this
district
now,
there's
also
the
the
gateway
district
and
that's
the
district
councilmember
waring
was
referring
to
that.
We
had
dedicated,
basically
all
of
our
future.
Remaining
years
to
the
spring
fish
burn
tunnel,
so
so
we
do
think
we'll
get
some
extra
income
out
of
that
tif
district
as
well,
once
now
that
we've
secured
that
22
million
dollar
grant
from
the
state.
So
so
this
is
all
good
news.
D
So
so
just
thinking
this
year
about
the
12
million
dollars-
and
this
is
just
a
suggestion
at
this
point-
but
alan
if
you'd
share
the
next
screen.
What
we
did
was
we
we
took
the
the
the
kind
of
higher
priority
items
that
also
were
a
more
shovel
ready
that
we
think
we
can
move
forward
and
I'll
I'll
share
again.
Maybe
council,
member
waring,
I
don't
know
if
you
were
on
the
line.
D
But
before
when
we
were
talking
about
what's
left
in
the
initial
12
million,
I
mean
we
got
3
million
sitting
there
for
drainage
that
you
know
we
hadn't
spent
that
it'll
probably
be
next
year
before
we
even
spend
that
money,
because
we
haven't
designed
and
developed
the
projects.
Yet
so
you
you
do
get
in
a
matter
of
timing
and
and-
and
so
this
is
just
suggestion-
these
eight
kind
of
broad
categories-
and
I
think
allen
put
a
few
of
them
together.
The
first
one
is
mostly
roadway.
D
D
I
did
include
a
recommendation
that
we
fund
some
additional
money
for
the
smokestacks
based
upon
our
report,
the
other
day
from
that
committee
to
get
us
from
the
700
000
or
so
a
budget
project
budget
that
we
now
have
up
to
a
million
and
a
half,
and
I
would
propose
that
we
take
400
from
the
new
instruments
and
we
we've
got
550
in
the
old
issuance.
So
we
could
do
that
short
term
and
get
that
inner
liner
removed.
Another
million
dollars
for
stormwater.
D
That
is
really
just
going
in
the
piggy
bank,
a
portion
of
the
low
line
phase
1a
to
come
from
the
next
issuance
of
four
million
dollars
of
the
seven
and
a
half
that
they're
requesting
another:
a
million
for
right
now
for
affordable
housing,
acquisition,
improvements
to
martin
park
and
others,
and
then
additional
sidewalk
repairs
and
there's
some
parking
issues,
apparently
that
council
member
mitchell
knows
about.
So.
These
were
the
staff
recommendations
for
us
to
consider.
D
You
know
we
wouldn't
be
doing
this
by
the
way
until
probably
may
or
june,
at
the
earliest.
So
we've
got
plenty
of
time
to
think
about
it.
But,
but
I
do
want
to
give
our
friends
at
lolan
some
assurance
that
that
we're
going
to
make
a
commitment
to
move
forward
in
partnership
with
them.
It
is
shovel
ready.
They
are
willing
to.
As
mr
parker
describe
basically
step
up
to
the
plate
and
manage
this,
we
will
bring
we're
working
on
an
agreement
with
them.
D
That
would
specify
terms
of
them,
and-
and
you
know
it's
it's
one
of
those
things
you
think
about
economic
recovery
coming
out
of
kova
19.
If
there's
something
that
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
the
shovel
in
the
ground
in
the
next
year
to
18
months.
I
think
it's
very
positive,
so
this
is
just
for
your
consideration.
D
There'll
be
no
vote
taken
on
it
today
or
at
the
council.
Frankly,
we
wouldn't
approve
specific
spending,
as
you
know,
until
we
bring
any
kind
of
contract
to
to
council
to
ways
and
means,
but
this
is
a
beginning
of
conversation
about.
I
think,
the
good
news
of
us
having
some
resources
to
be
able
to
spend
in
this
district
and
and
to
support
our
friends
at
the
low
line
and
get
this.
What
what
everyone,
I
think
agrees
will
be
a
transformational
project
to
be
able
to
get
off
the
ground
later
this
year.
O
H
Council,
member
waring
we've
looked
at
a
few,
and
quite
honestly,
there
are
just
a
few
that
remain.
Some
of
the
sites
that
we
have
seen
are
quite
costly
now,
so,
basically
we're
trying
to
balance
literally
the
cost
to
what
can
be
produced
and
then
who
you
know
considering
and
thinking
about
our
end
user,
our
end
clients.
So
naturally,
when
we
look
at
some
of
the
costs,
900
000
here
a
million
one
here,
we're
thinking
more
on
the
rental
end.
H
At
this
point,
we've
looked
at
three
or
four
parcels
that
remain
on
the
peninsula
close
to
this
area
and
the
costs
are
phenomenal.
So
we
are
looking
at
those
having
those
discussions
to
see.
In
fact,
if
we
can
make
this
work,
it
will
likely
require
more
than
what
we
see
here
or
what's
been
allocated
here.
O
C
I
C
C
There
will
be
businesses
created
and
again
I
go
back
to
equity,
okay.
With
regard
to
that.
Lastly,
mr
mayor,
you
know
that
there
have
been
discussions
in
our
economic
empowerment
subcommittee
of
the
commission
to
develop
the
james
lewis
business
development
center
in
the
building.
That's
going
to
be
named
in
his
honor,
and
I
would
like
for
us
somehow
I
mean
if
we've
got
a
half
million
dollars
left,
we
consider
okay,
what
we
may
need
in
order
to
to
pay
for
that
proposed
center.
It's
not
come
before
council
or
anything.
H
H
Looking
at
similar
projects
across
the
country,
we
realize
that
can
be
a
result
of
this
type
of
project
if
it's
not
handled
properly
before
it
starts,
and
so
we
met
last
year
with
internal
staff,
some
other
mem
friends
of
the
low
line,
other
members
of
the
community,
some
of
which
I
think
have
served
on
racial
equity
task
force
from
the
various
task
force
to
begin
to
put
together
a
strategy.
So
we're
refining
that
now,
hopefully
in
the
next
month
or
two
we'll
be
able
to
present
a
draft
of
that
to
the
cd
committee.
H
But
we're
looking
at
that
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
all
of
the
appropriate
considerations
going
in
so
that
we're
not
chasing
our
tails
later
but
literally,
are
making
sure
that
we
are
advancing
this
in
the
appropriate
way
such
that
we
don't
cause
the
level
of
gentrification
and
displacement
that
we've
seen
in
other
parts
of
the
country.
Thank
you.
G
Hey,
thank
you.
Yes,
I
I,
I
really
do
just
want
to
give
my
my
thoughts
about
the
low
line
as
as
sort
of
the
poster
child
of
what
we
are
talking
about
here.
I
I
do
feel
like
there
are.
There
are
investors
waiting
to
come
into
a
place
like
charleston
that
that
should
have
the
opportunity
to
attract
equity
development?
G
I
I
I
was
introduced
to
a
non-profit
organization.
That's
been
in
place
since
1993,
it's
called
green
lining,
it's
the
counter
action
to
redlining,
and
they
have
some
amazing
resources
and
tools,
and
the
one
that
I
was
introduced
to
yesterday.
Just
the
title
of
it
is
called
making
equity
real
in
mobility
pilot
projects,
and
it
has
a
whole
they're
they're.
G
There
are
four
steps
to
accomplishing
that
are
equity
considerations
know
what
your
goals
are
for
achieving
racial
equity
and
economic
equity,
community
engagement,
best
practices
and
then
clearly
define
a
pilot
project
that
can
take
on
all
of
the
goals
and
the
and
the
resources
that
you
pour
into
it
in
a
very
prescribed
way.
So
I,
I
think,
there's
great
examples
of
how
we
can
do
this
and
and
I'm
glad
to
see
it
on
the
list
of
your
12
million
dollars
mayor.
A
D
Yeah,
as
I
mentioned,
I
wanted
to
present
this
to
you
to
to
to
have
a
little
time
to
deliberate
and
think
about
it
and
in
the
meantime,
as
I
mentioned,
we
we
are
working
on.
We've
really
just
started
work
on
an
agreement
with
the
low
line
about
how
they
would
manage
the
project
and-
and
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
when
that
agreement
comes
from
the
council,
that
that
we
have
a
specific
amount
in
there
and
and
and
we
can
make
that
decision
at
that
time
firmly.
D
But
but
but
I
did
want
you
to
know,
you
know
what
what
our
recommendation
is
at
this
point,
it's
to
help
them
get
jump,
started
and
and
and
again
this
wouldn't
be
the
only
source
that
they
might
draw
from.
In
fact,
you
heard
mr
parker
say:
they've
already
put
four
million
dollars
themselves
in
it
so
far
at
this
at
this,
in
a
way,
we're
just
matching
what
they've
done
to
date
and
so
we're
catching
up
with
them.
D
Now
I
do
want
to
say
say
this
so
about
the
the
550
000,
that's
still
just
sitting
in
the
bank
unallocated
from
the
first
round.
I
I
would
like
to
hear
from
mr
parker.
He
doesn't
have
to
tell
me
right
now.
You
know
what
what
until
we
get
down
the
road
and
he
wants
to
get
going
on
the
engineering.
Of
course
this.
D
K
K
You
know
the
550
would
go
a
long
way
towards
making
that
happen
for
sure,
and
you
know
the
design
would
be
based
on
what
our
understanding
of
our
phase
one
project
is,
but
you
know
the
550
would
go
a
real
long
way
to
to
help
make
that
happen,
and
you
know,
if
you
all
could
could
see
a
way
to
make
that
available
to
us.
We
would
put
that
to
real
good
work
right
away
and
and
and
be
able
to.
K
D
A
H
Initially,
when
this
ordinance
was
proposed
and
as
it
is
now,
it
was
an
opt-in
zoning,
meaning
that
developers
had
to
request
this
particular
zoning
in
order
to
secure
it.
At
that
time,
we
required
that
if
they
chose
the
mixed-use
workforce,
housing
zoning,
they
provided
15
percent
of
workforce
housing
on
site,
15
percent
of
the
build-out
I.e
if
they're
building
a
hundred
fifteen
percent
of
that
had
to
be
affordable
and
the
affordability
period
that
was
attached
initially
was
10
years.
H
When
we
looked
at
that,
we
decided
that
we
needed
to
make
changes
and
amendments
to
that
particular
zoning.
And
you
all
some
of
you
who
were
on
council
would
likely
recall.
There
was
quite
a
bit
of
pushback
when
we
went
to
amend
this.
Particular
zoning
council
settled
on
the
amendment
of
changing
the
percentage
of
workforce
housing
to
20
percent
versus
the
15,
with
an
affordability
period
of
25
years.
We
also
added
a
few
options
and
that
option
was
providing
cash
in
lieu.
H
At
the
time
when
we
visited
this
proposal,
we
were
looking
at
three
dollars
and
forty
percent
times
the
gross
square
foot
of
the
building
as
a
fee.
If
they
weren't
entitled
before
2018,
they
could
stay
at
the
340
if
they
were
entitled.
After
that
time
frame
they
had
to
pay
five
dollars
and
10
cents
times
the
gross
square
foot
of
the
building.
The
proceeds
from
this
fee
in
lou
were
going
to
an
affordable
housing
fund.
Now,
council
member
mitchell
smile
because
he
remembers
the
multiple
meetings
we
had,
we
brought
in
experts
from
outside.
H
We
looked
at
california,
we
looked
at
colorado.
We
looked
at
best
practice
strategies
from
across
our
nation
to
one
come
up
with
a
fee
that
we
could
use,
that
we
felt
like
was
fair,
I.e,
meaning
it
would
help
us
to
build
additional,
affordable
housing
and
was
not
too
punitive.
Now.
What
we've
determined
is
that
literally
every
developer
that
has
opted
into
this
zoning
of
14
projects
or
developments
that
have
occurred
in
this
in
this
area,
and
let
me
step
back
for
a
minute.
This
mu2
zoning
is
only
allowed
in
the
urban
core.
H
We
have
been
talking
over
well
pre-covered.
We
started
talking
about
maybe
extending
this
zoning
to
other
areas
of
the
city
of
charleston,
but
we've
not
gotten
very
far
yet
because
covet
happened
and
it
kind
of
threw
some
things
in
through
wrenching
the
plans
but
anyway,
so
right
now,
it's
only
offered
in
the
urban
core
and
of
the
14
developments
that
have
been
that
have
started
that
have
gone
vertical.
H
To
date
we
have
collected
about
11.,
1
million
or
11.13
million
in
fee
and
lieu
funds,
and
we
have
about
two
million
that
is
coming
into
us
coming
into
us
here,
early
this
year,
at
least
in
the
first
quarter
we
have
expended-
and
I
believe
we
included
this
in
your
attachment
about
7.1
million
dollars
of
what
has
come
in
to
date.
So
we
have
close
to
4
million,
maybe
in
the
fund
right
now
and
I'll
tell
you
about
what
housing
we
will
use
that
on.
H
H
What
we
have
determined
is-
and
if
I
could
just
kind
of
sum
it
up
is
that
the
fee
in
lieu
amount
was
too
low,
no
surprise
there.
I
think
all
of
us
knew
that,
but
this
was
our
first
trial
run
if
you
will,
with
this
particular
type
of
development
and
particular
type
of
fee,
but
we
and
the
mayor
and
I
sat
in
his
office-
many
evenings
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
fee
to
apply
to
this.
H
We
have
since
learned
that
maybe
we
should
have
gone
a
little
bit
higher,
nonetheless
having
an
unrestricted
amount
of
funding
beyond
federal
dollars
to
contribute
and
invest
in
affordable
housing
is
awesome,
is
substantial.
Many
communities
do
not
have
that.
So
this
is
not
all
negative
things
relative
to
the
fee
in
lieu
because
it
has
served
us
well.
H
One
of
the
things
that
we
determine
is
that
we
as
the
city
of
charleston,
we
can
achieve
longer
affordability
periods
with
the
fee
option.
As
we
know,
that
was
one
of
the
things
we
looked
at,
usually
with
workforce
housing
you're.
Looking
at
the
80
percent
crowd
with
that
fee
money,
it
allowed
us
to
stretch
that
money
and
not
only
serve
80
percenters
with
60
percenters
and
50
percenters.
So
that
was
the
value,
if
you
will
one
of
the
values
of
having
the
fee
in
lieu.
H
H
What
kind
of
return
are
we
getting
on
our
investment?
So
this
report
literally
looks
at
unit
return
and
it
looks
at
dollar
return,
and
I
will
also
mention
leverage
to
you
here
in
a
moment
and
I'm
going
quickly
because
I
know
council
member
mitchell's
looking
at
me
like
hurry
up
gianna.
We
want
to
get
through
this,
but
it's
really
important
for
you
to
understand
both
the
pros
and
the
cons
of
this,
and
if
I
could
just
sum
it
up
for
us
fee
is
too
low.
H
Ultimately,
in
my
conversations
with
the
mayor
I
have
said
mayor,
we
need
to
look
at
increasing
this
feat.
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
not
do
when
we
were
going
through
this
process
back
in
late
2017
and
when
council
approved
it
in
2018,
is
put
an
inflation
factor
in
this
fee.
Thus,
as
inflation
has
increased
over
the
last
two
years
or
so
well,
now
three
we
haven't
included
an
inflation
factor
in
this
calculation,
so
part
of
us
trying
to
recapture.
H
If
you
will
some
of
the
dollars
that
we
left
on
the
table,
if
nothing
else,
we
need
to
consider
going
forward
and
have
included
in
this
an
inflation
factor
if
we
want
to
leave
this
as
an
opportunity
to
develop
additional
funding
for
affordable
housing.
So,
for
instance,
if
we
had
had
this
fee
at
a
7.65
percentage
or
amount
that
we
would
apply
to
the
gross
square
footage,
we
would
have
had
double
what
we
have
collected
to
date,
I.e
we
I
mentioned
11
million.
H
We
would
have
had
close
to
23
million
dollars
that
would
have
been
collected
in
this
fee
and
lieu
fund
if
that
small
increase
had
been
happening
for
us
over
the
last
several
years.
So
that
is
one
consideration.
I
want
you
all
to
think
about
of
the
projects
that
we
invested
in
for
this
development,
in
particular
the
maryville
property
we
invested
fee
in
lieu
of
seven
hundred
and
seventy
one
thousand
dollars.
We
got
back
about
six
hundred
and
fifty
four
thousand
dollars.
H
We
did
what
we
call
a
katrina,
cottage
project
where
we
invested
six
hundred
and
sixty
six
thousand
dollars
of
being
lou
funds.
We
got
462
thousand
dollars
of
that
back.
We
also
invested
in
the
fenwick
property
we
used
fee
and
lou
money
to
purchase
the
fenwick
property.
That
was
three
million
dollars.
H
H
We
invested
funding
in
the
acquisition
of
the
low
line
parcel
that
was
520
000
in
the
acquisition
of
that
site
and
I'll
mention
more
about
that
later.
We
should
see
a
nice
return
on
that,
because
the
estimated
cost
to
build
that
site
is
in
excess
of
13
million
dollars
vertical
construction,
not
talking
all
infrastructure.
H
We
also
invested
money
of
around
1.8
million
in
grace
homes
and,
as
most
of
us
know,
grace
holmes.
Vertical
construction
was
18
million.
Other
storm
water
infrastructure
was
around
1.8
million.
So
that
gives
you
a
sense
if
you
will,
of
the
small
investment
of
fee
and
lieu
money
and
what
we,
what
what
was
returned
or
the
leverage
that
we're
seeing
as
well
as
the
return
on
that
investment
we
made.
Can
we
do
better?
Is
the
question
we
pose
to
ourselves?
H
Absolutely
so
what
we
are
going
to
bring
back
to
you
all
such
that
it
can
hopefully
get
to
city
council
before
the
first
quarter
quarter
is
over
this
year.
Is
that
we
look
at
increasing
this
fee
and
lieu
fund?
And
I
always
tell
the
mayor
that
fee
and
lou
for
me
has
been
a
double
ed
sword,
because
we
lost
the
opportunity
for
the
units
themselves.
O
D
So
that
say
the
number
of
units
of
you're
doing
100
units
so
normally
under
the
the
program
mu
zoning
20
of
them
would
have
to
be
affordable
right
right
now
you
can
write
us
a
check
for
the
whole
20
and
and
do
none.
So
what
if
we
graduated
it.
So
that
say,
if
you
did
10
units
and
then
wanted
to
buy
the
10
out
at
least
you
provided
half
of
what
you
otherwise
would
have
done.
D
You
you'd
buy
out
at
the
regular
price
so
to
speak,
but
if
you
want
to
buy
all
20
units
out
that
second
10,
the
price
goes
up
dramatically,
so
it
would
provide
somewhat
of
an
incentive
for
the
developer
to
at
least
provide
half
of
the
units
that
he
would
have
under
normal
mu
conditions.
If
that
makes
sense,
I
can
probably
figure
out
a
way
to
explain
what
I'm
thinking
better.
O
O
Do
you
have
a?
Do?
You
have
a
specific
doll
amount
that
we
should
go
to
will
catch
up
with
call
inflation
I
mean,
should
it
be
based
on?
I
don't
know
consumer
price
index
or
whatever,
but
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
put
a
motion
on
the
floor
and
and
pass
that
today,
as
opposed
to
waiting
for
you
know
in
another
couple
of
weeks,
peace
with
mr
mayor.
O
That
was
talking
about
the
graduated
aspect,
but
we
can't
work
that
out
today,
then
maybe
that
comes
in
at
the
next
community
development
meeting,
but
I
agree
with
you:
some
inflationary
aspects
should
be
put
there.
I
do
agree
that,
given
the
level
of
development
we
have
going
on
it's
too
low
and
one
last
thing
I'd
like
to
ask.
O
O
A
K
D
Of
the
state
I'm
told
we
can't
make
that
happen,
so
the
the
other
way
to
approach
that
I
mean
you
get
into.
Maybe
a
taking
situation
in
a
sense
mr
repel
is
to
down
zone
the
number
of
units
that
are
allowed
on
a
parcel
then
force
people
who
want
to
do
those
dense
apartment
complexes,
force
them
to
ask
us
for
the
mu.
O
That's
a
great
idea:
that's
a
wonderful
idea,
because
I'm
telling
you
there's
so
many
other
areas
I
mean
you
know
west
ashley,
james
island,
johns
island
that
that
affordability
clause
would
be
if
we
can
somehow
get
that
working
that
seeing
lou
would
have
generated
so
much
more
money.
If,
yes
to
stand
it
and
all
those
apartments
now
and
john's
island
that's
been
built
and
continue
to
be
built
west
ashley
I
mean
that
I
mean
we
ought
to
put
a
high
priority
on
that.
O
That's
a
great
idea,
mr
miller
downs
on
the
units
and
and
they
get
ups
on
what
they
meant,
do
a
higher
number
than
the
fee
and
luke
kicks
in.
But
I
mean
that's.
We
got
a
priority
on
that.
All
those
are
great
ideas,
so
hopefully
we
walk
away
with
some
action
steps.
So
we
just
didn't
have
a
good
conversation
today
and
next
year
from
now,
we
wish
we
had
done
something.
D
Well,
gianna
wanted
to
give
everybody
the
report.
We
don't
have
a
specific
number
and
I
just
came
up
with
one
of
those
ideas
earlier
today.
So
so
let
us
come
back
to
you
the
next
meeting.
Maybe
I
could
ask
if,
if
community
development
committee
doesn't
mind,
if
we
come
up
with
a
recommendation
that
we
could
just
go
straight
to
council
and
not
have
to
wait
the
month
to
come
back
to
y'all
is
that
okay.
C
C
D
A
C
I
O
C
G
Yes,
thank
you
I'll,
be
really
quick.
I
I
salute
gianna,
especially.
This
is
a
a
very
good,
well
well
documented
report.
I
really
appreciate
you
wanting
us
to
understand
the
balancing
act
and
you
know
I
I
just
it
was
giving
me
deja
vu
this.
This
topic
was
the
reason
that
I
got
involved
in
city,
local
government
affairs.
If
you
recall
I,
I
bugged
the
heck
out
of
city
council
about
this
fianlu
and
the
terms
that
you
all
were
considering
that
were
way
too
easy
on
the
development
community.
G
As
as
a
private
citizen,
I
was
coming
to
citizens
participation
and
giving
you
examples
from
you
know
my
experience
in
in
northern
virginia
and
other
metropolitan
areas.
So
I
I
do
feel
like
we
do.
We
need
to
just
keep
going
with
this,
because
the
the
trains
are
still
moving
out
of
the
station,
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
opportunity
and
I
think
any
envelopes
that
we
can
push.
You
know
if
they're,
if
they're
shades
of
gray,
let's
try
it.
I.
G
I
really
think
that
we
all
know
that
housing
affordability
is
is
a
main
priority
and
we
can't
get
there
because
we
got
to
spend
money
on
the
stupid
storm
water
improvements.
So
you
know
that
that
that
has
to
be
the
priority,
because
it's
our
lifeline,
but
housing
is
the
desirable
priority.
I
think
we
should
just
you
know
start
to
talk
about
it
like
that,
so
go
for
it.
A
A
N
Okay,
cool,
I'm
gonna,
try
to
make
mine
quick
as
well.
I
I
agree
with
everything
yeah
I
I
I
think,
there's
been
a
lot
of
great
ideas
put
out
on
the
table
today
from
from
gianna
from
the
mayor
from
councilman
gregory
from
everybody
and-
and
I
would
just
want
to
point
out
that
you
know
in
addition
to
all
these
inclusionary
zoning
techniques
fee
and
lou
things
of
that
nature.
N
We
need
to
keep
doing
it,
but
if
we
can
tweak
some
of
those
dials
at
the
core
of
our
zoning
ordinance
that
is
really
going
to
you
know
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
stop
talking
about.
You
know
a
dozen.
You
know
100
units
here
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
thousands
of
units
I'm
getting
under
the
market.
We've
got
to
find
ways
to
make
affordable
housing
profitable
without
the
government
subsidies.
If
we
can
do
that,
developers
will
make
this
housing
happen.
It's
what
they
did
for
many
many
many
many
years
before.
N
L
Thank
you
I,
I
think
just
to
add
to
ross's
that
was
kind
of
my
question.
I
understand
the
fee
in
lieu
is
a
disincentive
for
investor
for
developers
to
actually
build
the
units.
I
I
get
that
part,
so
the
current
rate
is
510
gianna.
Is
that
what
it
is
per
square?
Foot,
okay
and
then
the
other
side?
I
guess
this
is
more
to
ross's
point.
L
You
know
if
we
change
that
fee
and
loose,
so
it
hurts
them
a
bit
more.
It's
or
disincentivizes
them
to
to
do
it.
Is
there
anything
on
the
building
side
that
are
that
we
are
creating?
That's
not
incentivizing
them
to
actually
build
those
units.
So
maybe
this
speaks
to
ross's
point
about
some
of
our
zoning
changes.
L
I
just
don't
want
to
go
through
and
increase
the
the
fee
and
lieu
rate
and
not
really
think
about
the
other
side
of
the
ledger
of
what
could
happen
because
we
might
get
where
they
they'll
continue
to
pay
the
fee
in
lieu
and
we
might
increase
our
pot
of
funding
for
affordable
housing,
but
we
still
won't
get
those
units
built.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
both
sides
of
the
ledger.
H
So,
on
the
other
side,
councilmember
saccharin-
this
doesn't
answer
your
question
directly,
but
we
are
creating
and
mandy
just
came
on.
So
hopefully
she
can
add
to
this.
We
are
trying
to
make
it
easier
to
build
in
the
city
of
charleston,
regardless,
which
we
know
time
is
money,
so
we're
instituting
some
processes
to
expedite
the
construction
of
affordable
housing.
H
We've
looked
at
trying
to
develop
a
position
as
a
as
a
concierge
so
that
it
will
facilitate
faster
development,
which
ultimately
saves
money
and
to
the
mayor's
earlier
point,
if
we
can
secure
some
level
of
units
on
site
and
some
funding.
Naturally
that
is
the
best
of
both
worlds.
So
you
still
get
the
units
because,
in
addition
to
the
need
for
affordable
housing,
there's
the
need
for
housing
in
general.
So
I
think
if
we
get
the
affordable,
we
get
the
housing
that's
needed
in
general
and
a
level
of
fee.
C
So
I
think
that
you
know
I.
I
think
that
we've
got
to
think
of
it
in
that
vein,
in
terms
of
when
we
come
up
with
different
recommendations
in
terms
of
how
can
we
keep
the
affordability
okay,
when
if
we
use
the
mayor's
approach
of
10
and
10
okay,
how
can
we
make
sure
that
the
10
that
are
affordable
can
be
affordable
forever?
O
Yeah
yeah.
Thank
you
going
back
to
councilman
appel,
that's
a
couple
of
times
that
councilman
pal
has
referred
to,
maybe
not
on
at
these
meetings,
but
other
meetings
about
a
deep
dive
into
our
zoning
ordinance.
We
talk
about
a
task
force.
Can
we
put
together
something
real
small?
I
mean
obviously
even
being
chaired
by
it's
great
for
me
to
volunteer
his
time
of
being
chaired
by
councilmember
pal
on
that,
because
I
do
believe,
there's
a
wealth
in
our
zoning
code.
Just
that
just
needs
to
be
it's
just.
O
Things
we
need
to
clean
out
of
there,
but
but
again
great
ideas,
but
got
to
get
the
action
step
on
it.
You
know
we
did
the
piece
on
the
reduced
lot
size
which
works
out
great.
You
know
for
affordable
housing,
paid
benefits
already
and
limited
way
on
a
few
projects
that
the
city
is
doing,
but
I
think
there's
more
in
that
zoning
code
that
can
provide
benefits
like
that
as
well
so,
and
although
we
need
to
take
take
that
up
and
kind
of
move
forward
with
that.
C
I
just
hate
to
form
do
another
mechanism
when
the
commission
has
already
started
that
process
and
now
that
ross
is
a
commissioner
and
has
already
reached
out
to
the
chairman
of
the
housing
task
force
and
communicated
some
of
what
he
just
communicated
to
us.
I'm
I'm!
I
think
that
that's
going
to
grow
out
of
the
commission's
recommendations,
and
I'm
not
talking
about
two
or
three
years
from
now
either
I
mean.
M
Sorry,
just
just
quickly,
we
all
can
recognize
that
our
zoning
ordinance
needs
some
tweaking
and
some
amending
on
various
levels.
I'm
also
excited
about
this
conversation
because
I
think
the
work
of
our
planning
division,
christopher
morgan,
his
staff
and
the
comprehensive
plan
update
that
they're
working
on
and
the
data
that's
been
collected
from
our
consultants,
our
housing
consultant.
I
think
that
will
give
us
the
data
and
the
support
that
we
need
to
move
forward
with
some
of
these
housing
changes
and
zoning
ordinance
changes.
So
I'm
encouraged
by
this
conversation.
M
I
will
say
that
it's
going
to
be
a
heavy
heavy
heavy
lift,
but
we
can
do
it,
but
it
might
be
something
that
you
see
in
future
budget
requests
to
help
us
with
some
of
those
ordinance
amendments,
and
we
look
forward
to
that
and
also
council
member
waring
to
your
point
in
these
lots
of
these
new
housing
developments
in
in
housing
in
west
ashley.
In
the
past,
we
have
had
conversations
with
developers
saying
you
know
what
what
can
we
do
to
help?
M
You
provide
more
affordable
housing
in
your
development
on
your
property,
and
it
also
it
has
all
come
down
to
their
cost
of
construction.
So,
even
saying
you
know,
we
could
help
you
with
with
a
putt
or
are
there
ways
that
we
can
modify
our
zoning
ordinances
to
help
you
and
it
comes
down
to
their
cost
of
construction.
You
know
we
already
have
reduced
parking
requirements
and
we
were
trying
to
be
more
flexible
with
how
they
use
the
land
and
it
comes
down
to
this
those
financial
components.
M
O
In
this
comprehensive
update,
is
this
going
to
show
some
sort
of
reform
to
what's
required
for
a
variant,
for
example,
once
this
comprehensive
plan
is
updated?
If
somebody
needs
a
15
inch,
16
16-inch
bearings
to
build
a
house,
do
they
still
have
to
go,
get
go
in
front
of
the
bza?
Is
that
going
to
be
a
staff
level
decision
to
accelerate
the
process
or
what.
M
Well,
the
company
sure
the
comprehensive
plan.
You
know
it's
going
to
be
much
more
high
level
than
that
and
from
the
high
level
comprehensive
plan
we
will
have
to
make
tailored
zoning
ordinance
amendments.
So
I
say
that's,
that's
that's
something
that
can
be
discussed
at
that
time.
The
comp
plan
is
not
perhaps
going
to
address
that
specifically,
but
the
larger
the
broader
recommendations
should
be
able
to
trickle
down
to
make
other
zoning
ordinance
revisions
and
christopher
hop
in.
If
I
haven't
addressed
that
appropriately.
O
People
west
actually
said
it
comes
down
to
they
cost
cost
of
construction.
The
people
on
the
peninsula
have
the
same
issue
with
cost
of
construction.
I
this
is
higher
on
the
on
the
peninsula
to
construct
versus
you
know
out
in
the
suburban
areas,
and
they
can
somehow
factor
in
you
know
the
fee
in
lieu
and
make
it
work.
I
don't
I
don't
see
why
they
can't
make
it
work.
You
know
in
the
suburban
areas.
A
F
I
I
So
within
the
the
toolkit
that
was
created
in
this
plan,
there
were
35
separate
tools
that
were
grouped
into
categories
of
zoning
and
policy
tools,
funding
tools,
education
and
empathy,
building
tools
and
capacity
building
tools,
and
I
won't
go
through
all
these
items,
but
hopefully
just
by
glancing
at
them.
You.
M
I
Get
a
sense
of
of
what
was
covered
and
considered
within
the
plan
and
as
an
example,
one
of
the
tools
considered
on
zoning
incentives.
Each
of
these
looks
at
what
the
tool
is,
what
the
city
is
currently
doing
on
it:
recommendations
to
strengthen
the
tool
and,
importantly,
looking
at
what
other
cities
around
the
country
are
doing,
what
are
their
good
ideas?
What
are
the
lessons
we
can
learn
from
them
and
how
do
we
learn
from
that
and
implement
that
here
in
charleston.
I
So,
with
this
plan
there
are
these
35
tools,
103
individual
recommendations,
but
not
a
but
no
implementation
roadmap
for
how
the
city
would
would
move
this
forward.
So
staff
worked
across
departments
to
evaluate
each
of
the
recommendations
and
tools
found
within
the
plan
using
the
prioritization
matrix
found
on
the
right
and
and
use
that
as
a
way
for
us
to
figure
out
which
items
we
should
be
working
on
in
the
near
term.
I
I
And
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
just
pull
out
some
of
the
examples
from
the
plan,
and
these
are
these
are
recommendations
that
scored
highly
among
staff's
evaluation,
and
you
can
see
it's,
I
group
them
in
three
different
categories:
those
that
have
been
completed,
those
that
are
in
process
and
those
that
scored
highly
but
have
not
yet
been
started.
So
you
can
see
here.
You
know
the
fee
and
lou
report
that
you
just
represented.
I
I
I
think,
following
up
on
the
discussion
you
all
just
had
I'm
looking
at
how
we
can
expand,
expand
zoning
incentives
to
more
districts
in
the
city
and
then
lastly,
comment
on
inclusionary
zoning.
That
was
also
mentioned
earlier
today.
That's
an
effort.
The
city's
been
undertaking
for
for
some
years
now
to
enact
state
enabling
legislation
that
would
allow
cities
the
option
to
enact
mandatory,
inclusionary
zoning
so
I'll.
I
H
H
H
H
H
Their
proposal
included
55
total
units
of
affordable
housing
on
the
low
line
site
that
the
city
has
purchased.
They
requested
probably
less
gap
financing
than
the
other
developers
that
proposed
and
again
all
we
had
some
very
strong
proposals.
The
committee
overwhelmingly
chose
this
one.
The
goal
is
to
have
an
option
to
lease
in
a
ground
lease
before
you
at
the
first
meeting
in
february.
H
We
are
following
the
directive
that
you
all
gave
a
few
years
ago
when
you
indicated
the
city
should
retain
the
properties
that
it
owns
and
so
versus
transferring
full
rights
of
that
property
to
this
development
team.
They
will
enter
into
a
ground
lease
an
option
to
lease
first
so
that
they
can
go
through
the
process
of
preparing
themselves
for
the
vertical
construction
and
then
a
ground
lease
is
the
exhibit
to
that
option
to
lease
that
would
then
be
executed
later
on.
H
D
A
That's
what
it
is
and
any
most
of
the
things
that
they
didn't
board
on
be
coming
back
again
to
us
at
another
meeting.
So
once
to
get
all
the
information
together,
then
we
will
contact
the
committee
and
have
an
meeting
as
soon
as
we
possibly
can
so
anything
else
to
bring
before
the
community
development
committee
before
jimmy.
O
I
do
have
a
question.
I
do
have
an
observation.
Mr
may
I
agree
with
you
totally
on
that,
but
I
think
you
need
some
credit
as
well
too.
I
mean
having
a
50
million
total
out
there
in
the
state
of
the
city.
Address
I
mean
that's
a
heck
of
a
challenge
and
we
know
we
can
do
it.
We
can
do
it,
you
know
we
can
do
it
so,
hopefully
all
the
cities
will
will
give
you
a
call
to
say
hey
how
you
doing
that.
O
Remember
we
had
an
initiative
to
add
three
percent
to
our
building
license
fee.
Somehow
that's
got
to
be
proved
through
the
state.
I
still
don't
understand.
Why
can
we
look
into
that?
Again,
I
mean
come
back
with
some
information
on
that
at
the
next
meeting,
in
particular
in
light
of
home
rule,
because
I
don't
understand
why
we
have
to
go
to
the
state
of
south
carolina
to
get
an
approval
on
a
business
license
fee
in
the
city
of
charleston.
I
mean
we
could
not
business
license.
O
O
I
think
that
needs
a
little
bit
more
push
on
that
because
you
know
the
the
state
adjusted
on
the
tif
funds.
That's
why
you're
able
to
see
some
tiff
funds
being
able
to
use
the
acquired
land
for
affordable
housing?
That's
a
recent
victory
for
affordable
housing
on
the
state
level,
so
we've
got
some
push
on
the
drainage
funds
with
to
with
accommodation
sales
tax.
We
still
need
to
push
on
the
state
side,
but
I
still
think
our
legal
department
needs
to
look
at
it
from
a
home.
B
O
Department,
because
you
know,
if
you're
in
esto
south
carolina,
if
you're
in
the
city
of
esto,
you
don't
have
an
affordable
housing
problem,
you
don't
have
affordable
housing
problem
in
walterbor,
so
I
can
see
the
state,
legislators,
senators
and
whatnot
around
the
rural
areas
of
states.
Saying
hey.
We
don't
need
another
tax
increase
as
such.
I
think
that's
a
home
rule
just
like
if
you
want
to
do
a
local
option-
sales
tax-
fine
do
it.
D
N
I
was
just
going
to
say,
unfortunately,
home
rule
stops
in
south
carolina
when
it
comes
to
taxes
and
fees,
and
it's
very
unfortunate
and
councilman
waring
hit
the
nail
on
the
head.
I
mean
you
know
I'll,
give
you
an
example:
city
of
miami.
They
had
a
little
thing
called
a
storm
water
and
a
sea
level
rise
problem.
They
passed
a
a
one
cent
sales
tax
and
were
able
to
bond
almost
a
billion
dollars
for
infrastructure
improvements.
We
can't
do
that.
N
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
20th
century
or
the
19th
century,
but
but
it's
got
to
get
with
the
times,
because
we
need
more
flexibility
to
solve
our
problems
in
the
state.
But
that's
way
above
my
pay
grade.
But
it's
it's
the
you're
hitting
the
nail
on
the
head
on
the
issue
and
we
should
explore
all
of
our
options
that
we
have
under
existing
authority
really.