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City of Charleston Community Development 11/18/21
A
First
presentation
is
the
presentation
on
economic
development.
I
mean
empowerment
strategies
from
the
report
of
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
C
Good
afternoon,
chairman
and
city
council
members,
my
name
is
mike
thompson.
I'm
the
director
of
business
and
neighborhood
services
for
the
city
of
charleston.
C
C
All
right,
but
before
we
get
into
it,
the
chair
of
our
subcommittee
unfortunately
wasn't
able
to
join
us,
but
I
do
want
to
do
a
big
thank
you
to
this
group
of
citizens
who
dedicated
their
time
to
putting
together
these
recommendations.
I
know
every
subcommittee
was
passionate
about
their
work,
but
this
group
in
particular
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
and
amber,
can
back
me
up
there
for
a
while.
They
were
meeting
every
single
week
to
talk
about
these
ideas.
C
C
So
this
was
kind
of
the
basis
for
the
work
that
the
subcommittee
did
with
also
a
key
intention
of
addressing
the
business
success
of
minority
owned
businesses
by
developing
a
strong
entrepreneurship
ecosystem
in
communities
of
color.
So
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
they
came
up
with
were
centered
around
minority-owned
businesses,
black
owned
businesses.
C
All
right
so
how
I've
kind
of
structured
this
because
I
know
it
is-
it
is
a
lot
in
that
report.
What
I've
done
is
pulled
out
the
long-term
goal
and
then
each
of
the
strategies
that
we're
working
on
around
that
goal
and
kind
of
have
a
list
of
things
that
are
in
progress
around
that.
So
one
of
the
long-term
goals
of
their
recommendations
was
improve
access
to
capital
for
blackline
business.
C
The
strategy
around
that
was
to
create
a
database
of
black
owned
businesses
because
you,
the
idea,
was,
you
can't
really
make
sure
you're
improving
access
to
capital.
Folks,
if
you
don't
know
who's
out
there,
now
there's
a
few
different
efforts
around
this.
The
picture
I'm
showing
here
is
actually
the
metro
chambers,
new
minority
business
directory
that
they've
developed
kenya
dunn
was
a
fellow
with
the
chamber
and
she
was
on
our
subcommittee,
so
this
was
an
effort
that
she's
kind
of
been
working
on
with
them.
C
I
also
want
to
mention
that
we
do
have
a
database
of
mwbes
that
ruth
manages,
through
her
certifications,
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
later
about
how
we're
improving
that
database.
But
that's
something
that
the
city
has
had
for
quite
a
while,
and
then
I
do
want
to
turn
it
over
to
amber
to
talk
about
a
grant
through
the
national
league
of
cities.
That
is
helping
us
kind
of
collect
and
analyze.
This
data
so
amber.
D
D
D
Our
goal
for
the
project
is
to
build
out
the
data
system
that
we
have
that
incorporates
quantitative
and
qualitative
data
that
can
be
desegregated
to
identify
the
needs
of
our
residents
and
our
black
owned
businesses.
D
So
we've
been
working
to
build
out
that
that
system
that
will
let
us
know
how
many
blackboard
businesses
we
have
and
to
also
pull
the
data
so
that
we
we
know
what
our
what
our
needs
are
as
far
as
workforce
wages
and
so
forth,
and
I
think
christina
can
kind
of
give
us
more
details
about
our
data
that
we're
collecting.
E
Thanks
amber
and,
like
meg,
said
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
kinds
of
businesses
we
have
in
our
area,
so
we're
also
working
with
our
business
licensed
folks
to
get
demographic
information
on
our
business
licenses,
be
able
to
pull
that
and
add
that
to
this
equitable
economic
mobility
work
we're
partnering
with
this
software
company
called
my
sidewalk
that
pulls
data
from
a
bunch
of
different
sources
from
the
census
other
sources.
We
can
also
upload
our
own
data
and
kind
of
have
a
gis
mapping
function
and
pull
reports
with
it.
C
All
right,
so
another
long-term
goal
in
the
report
is
to
create
a
mechanism
to
ensure
blackline
businesses
have
the
opportunity
to
to
pursue
and
secure
government
contracts.
So
really
obvious
strategy
under
there
is
to
improve
government
contracting
and
we're
doing
several
things
around
this
area.
So
I'm
actually
going
to
turn
it
over
to
ruth
jordan
to
talk
about
how
we're
improving
our
certification
requirements
looking
at
tracking
our
procurement
spending
and
also
how
we
want
to
improve
procurement
overall,
so
ruth
go
ahead.
F
So
again,
my
name
is
ruth
jordan,
I'm
with
the
city's
office
of
women,
minority
business,
I'm
the
manager
in
1980
city
council
passed
the
ordinance,
that's
audience
162,
section
2-264,
and
it
stated
that,
in
furtherance
of
sound
procurement
practices
that
all
business
entities
be
accorded
a
real
and
equitable
opportunity
to
participate
in
the
city
of
charleston's
procurement,
it
also
specified
city
control
dollars
must
provide
an
opportunity
for
qualified
mwbes.
That's
women
and
minority
business
enterprises
to
compete
and
be
awarded
opportunities.
F
Our
current
participation
goals
are
20
and
construction,
20
percent
in
services
and
12
and
supplies
the
city's
office
of
women
minority
business.
The
primary
mission
is
three
things:
mwbe
certification,
business
development
and
technical
assistance
and
advocacy
and
connecting
businesses
to
business,
and
so
that's
what
the
ordinance
set
out
to
do.
In
2019,
we
had
an
external
review
of
our
current
program.
F
We
have
a
current
database
that
has
nearly
400
mwbes
on
it.
Our
database
is
used
throughout
the
region
how
the
airport
uses
our
database.
F
F
Next
live.
Please
here
are
our
current
certification
requirements.
Currently
we
accept
businesses
who've
been
in
business
for
at
least
two
years.
They
must
meet
the
criteria.
The
federal
standards
of
being
a
women
or
minority-owned
business
must
own
51
ownership
substantially
involved
in
the
day-to-day
management.
F
They
must
provide
the
following
documentation:
two
years
of
federal
taxes,
a
business
license
owner
id
deed
or
lease
agreement,
and
so
what
we're
proposing
going
forward
is
to
be
in
line
with
the
county
and
the
state
that,
instead
of
making
business
be-
and
this
is
for
two
full
years
that
we
require
them
to
be
in
business
for
one
plus
four
years
and
then
in
addition
to
that,
we
never
had
any
written
guidelines
for
businesses.
F
So
we've
worked
with
mallory
over
in
our
legal
division
and
to
help
us
practice.
Language
as
well.
Owners
must
meet
the
federal
requirements
and
be
socially
economically
disadvantaged.
F
Have
a
network
work
not
to
exceed
1.3
million
dollars
and
gross
revenues
not
to
exceed
7.5,
and
then
that
does
not
include
their
equity
and
their
value
of
their
business
and
then
out-of-state
businesses
must
provide
a
reciprocal
certification,
federal
or
from
their
home
state,
and
they
must
again
meet
all
the
other
requirements
by
the
city.
Someone
asked
the
question:
why
do
you
put
a
certification
clause
about
reciprocal
out
of
states?
Well,
one
of
the
complaints
that
we've
gotten
is
that.
F
G
F
So
again,
the
state
as
well
as
the
county,
requires
the
two
years
tax
returns,
because,
as
you
see
on
the
other
side,
the
net
worth
of
the
business
cannot
be.
Oh,
the
owner
can't
exceed
1.3
million,
and
the
gross
revenues
cannot
exceed
7.5
million,
and
so
that's
where
we
get
those
numbers
and
being
able
to
substantiate
and
document
that.
F
G
F
G
So
I
just
think
there's
a
oh.
I
just
think
there's
I
think,
that's
an
unfair
requirement.
We're
not
they're
not
applying
for
a
loan
from
us
you're,
not
we're
not
trying
to
certify
that
they
can
pay
us
back.
We
advance
their
money
or
something
like
that
and
they
got
the
cash
flow
to
pay
us
back.
Normally,
through
tax
returns,
you're
trying
to
figure
out
well
a.
G
F
G
F
Wants
to
be
certified
as
a
as
a
minority,
disadvantaged
certified
company,
and
so
we
must
have
income
limitations.
F
Business
business
returns
or
personal
because
sometimes
they
have
small
companies,
sometimes
do
their
personal
inc
income
taxes
and
have
a
schedule
c
attached
to
it
or
a
k1
or
k2
form
or
m1
m2
forms
in
terms
of
business
taxes.
F
Thank
you,
but
those
are
great
questions,
councilmember,
okay,
next
slide,
and
so
currently
we
do
not
have
a
great
way
of
tracking
how
much
money
we're
spending
with
mwbes
overall,
and
so
over
the
past
18
months,
I've
been
working
with
tracy
mcgee
and
with
our
capital
project
departments,
as
well
as
procurement,
to
come
up
with
a
system
to
track
our
mwbe
spin.
F
It
was
the
mayor's
prop
number
one
priority
is
to
see
how
much
money
are
we
really
spending
towards
our
mwbe
goals.
So
currently
we
implemented
this
document
here
called
the
mwbe
participation
report
started
this
year
for
every
project
here
in
the
city
of
charleston,
that
this
must
be
provided
so
take.
For
instance,
this
is
the
vendor
street
park
project.
F
The
original
contract
amount
is
91
million,
967
thousand
five
hundred
thirty
two
dollars,
and
then
we
have
a
mbe
gold
of
21
21.7
and
that
amount
is
428
and
then
it
also
currently
lists
who
are
the
subs
on
that
particular
contract
that
makes
up
that
21.7
percent.
F
Now
this
is
an
excel
spreadsheet,
but
actually
it's
not
even
a
spreadsheet.
It's
just
a
form
that
we
are
currently
using
at
this
particular
time.
So
what
we're
currently
using
is
this
and
tracy
mckee
is
putting
an
internal
software
program
together
to
be
able
to
hopefully
digitize
this
and
make
it
electronically
that
we
can
aggregate
all
these
numbers
and
be
able
to
bring
counsel
a
quarterly
report
of
our
mwb
spin.
F
What
we
would
like
to
get
to
is
this
next
kind
of
program,
which
is
called
a
bg2
now
this
is
on
the
african-american
museum.
This
is
turner
brownstone.
This
is
a
standardized
tracking
system
called
bg2.
Now
it
would
go
even
further
what
it
would
do.
It
would
be
able
to
tell
you
by
categories
what
percentage
mwbes,
what
percentage
went
to
white
women?
What
percentage
went
to
african-american
businesses,
what
percentage
went
to
hispanics,
disadvantaged,
asian-americans
and
so
forth,
and
so
on,
and
so
on?
F
F
H
The
first
question
is:
there
are
instances
where
someone
can
bid
on
a
contract
and
say
they're
going
to
do
it
all
themselves.
Correct.
H
And
when
they
say
that
is
there
any
way
that
we
can
sort
of
look
at
their
employment
as
opposed
to
their
use
of
mbe
wve
vendors
as
subs.
H
You
see
where
I'm
going
with
it,
I
mean
because
there
there
are
many
that
come
through
and
it's
almost
like
so
sourcing
it
and
as
a
result,
there's
no
no
competition
and
perhaps
because
of
the
uniqueness
of
what
they
can
provide,
is
sometimes
a
reason.
But
it
would
be
good
to
sort
of
just
not
check
it
off
and
so
to
just
get
a
sense
of
what
the
employment
record
might
be.
F
There
was
a
change
in
the
south
carolina
procurement
code
that
will
allow
a
a
state
agency
or
division
to
be
able
to
award
directly
to
mwb
contracts
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
without
any
competition,
provided
that
they
are
highly
qualified
and
can
do
the
work
and
that's
a
change
in
the
south
carolina
code
in
order
to
help
meet
mwbe
goals,
and
so
we're
going
to
look
at
all
those
kinds
of
policies
and
the
changes
that
have
occurred
in
the
south
carolina
procurement
code.
What
again
with
what
ccsd
is
doing?
H
In
terms,
I'm
sorry
in
terms
of
technical
assistance,
we'll
talk
about
de-bundling.
G
H
And
would
we
also
at
some
point
especially
if
it's
an
up-and-coming
mbe
wbe
identify
capital?
Maybe
I'm
I'm
I'm
getting
into
our
incubator
stuff,
but
you.
H
F
And
so
those
are
all
strategic
strategies
that
can
be
used
in
order
for
us
to
meet
the
goal.
So
it's
one
thing
to
have
established
an
ordinance
but
not
have
a
strategic
plan
to
meet
those
kinds
of
meet.
The
goals
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
you're
talking
about
deep,
bundling
that
that
could
be
easily
done.
F
Sometimes,
you
know
it
takes
a
little
bit
extra
work,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
some
of
our
new
project
managers
over
at
capital
project
that
that's
what
they're
doing
now.
You
know
they
know
it's
a
little
bit
extra
work,
but
the
bundling
is
a
way
to
get
some
of
those
smaller
firms
into
the
process
so
that
they
could
cut
their
teeth.
Sometimes
I
oftentimes
tell
them
you're,
not
gonna,
cut
your
teeth
on
the
five
million
dollar
project.
F
However,
if
it's
de-bundled,
where
there
are
some
scopes,
that
some
of
these
smaller
companies
can
do,
whether
it's
landscaping
or
whether
it
is
carpentry
electrical,
so
those
kinds
of
the
bundling
pieces
where
they
can
get
some
experience,
I'm
not
gonna
get
some
experience,
but
they
may
not
be
able
to
maybe
get
a
surety
bond
for
five
million
dollars,
but
they
can
be
bonded
bonded
for
350
000.
F
So
those
are
all
again
strategies
that
we
want
to
look
at
going
forward
and
that's
why
we're
going
to
put
together
that
work
group
and
I've
already
spoken
with
gary
cooper
and
edmond
most
and
they're
very
open
to
putting
together
this
work
group
next
slide.
Please.
C
Thank
you
ruth,
so
another
strategy
under
this
idea
of
helping
minority
business
secure,
government
contracts
is
actually
to
expand
our
own
mwde
office
and
what
we're
able
to
do
so.
I
want
to
share
with
you
a
couple
grants.
C
One
christina
is
going
to
talk
about
that
we're
in
the
process
of
applying
for
one
from
the
economic
development
administration
that
we
received
last
year
and
are
in
the
process
of
executing
and
then
councilmember
gregory
kind
of
teased.
This
already,
but
we
want
to
talk
about
our
first
kind
of
big
capital
project
for
our
office.
Is
our
mwbe
incubator
slash
entrepreneur
center
slash?
We
could
use
some
help
coming
up
with
a
name
for
this
thing
in
the
end,
but
we're
very
excited
about
it.
So
I'm
going
to
go
to
christina
first.
E
Thanks
meg,
so
another
national
league
of
cities
grant
like
she
said
we're
in
the
process
for
is
to
map
different
small
business
resources
in
our
area,
we'll
be
able
to
kind
of
identify
gaps,
look
at
different
stages
of
entrepreneurship
in
our
area.
This
will
kind
of
serve
as
a
roadmap
for
us
to
provide
services
from
our
office,
while
also
giving
us
some
ideas
of
our
target
audience
for
our
mwbe
incubator.
That
ruth's
going
to
talk
about.
F
And
so
last
year,
well,
this
year
earlier
this
year
we
received
a
grant
for
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
that
grant
was
specifically
to
help
businesses,
be,
I
guess,
prepared
to
do
business.
We
develop
what
we
call
the
business
development
lab,
and
so
with
this
grant
is
to
help
prepare
businesses
to
scale
and
grow.
It
also
was
to
help
startup
businesses
as
well
as
well
as
legacy
businesses.
So
over
the
past,
I
guess
seven
months
or
so
we
have
been
going
full
force
with
our
business
development
lab.
F
We
started
in
april
april
of
this
year,
2
30
september.
We
have
reached
over
464.
F
Our
businesses
have
attended
our
webinars.
We
were
able
to
pivot
during
this
covet
to
do
a
100
zoom
platform.
We
actually
presented
20
presented
nine
actual
workshops
where
over
464
businesses
attend
attended.
We
had
279
youtube
views,
we
partnered
with
14
resource
partners
as
well
as
four
panel
experts.
F
We
actually
were
awarded
some
eda
funding
and
that
out
of
the
850
000
in
pda's
funding,
we've
made
those
loans,
and
now
we
have
about
178
000
dollars
left,
but
a
lot
of
that
is
already
spoken
for,
and
that
was
from
public
relief
for
women.
Minority-Owned
businesses,
specifically
with
the
city
of
charleston.
H
H
I
mean
how
about
and
I'm
not
being
facetious
I
mean.
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
get
if
we
haven't
gotten
the
rose
kids
together
to
participate
in
some
of
this.
F
So
all
of
these
particular
webinars
were
webinars
that
was
open
to
the
public
and
we
definitely
would
like
to
have
any
of
those
kids
to
participate
and
because
they
were
all
virtual,
I
will
tell
you
we
had
everything
for
yb
certify.
Are
you
legal
how
to
win
the
contract,
which
was
a
four
part
series?
We
call
it
the
hour
of
power
every
wednesday
night
and
the
entire
month
of
september
contract
compliance.
F
We
got
the
contract
now
what
how
to
bid
understanding
the
scope
of
work,
because
sometimes
people
don't
know
and
don't
don't
understand,
even
how
to
get.
We
had
federal
contracting
101.
We
had,
you
know
again,
are
you
legal?
Then
we
we
ended
up
in
november
and
I
think
it's
the
first
week
in
november
meet
the
lenders
in
order
to
make
sure
that
they
have
access
to
capital.
F
So
working
with
sva,
we
had
six
lenders
from
small
lenders,
all
the
way
to
large
lenders,
whether
they
were
looking
to
borrow
five
thousand
dollars
or
five
million
dollars,
and
so
we
had
over
200
people
registered
for
meet
the
lenders,
webinar
and
so
we're
looking
at
those
results.
F
Hopefully,
within
the
next
couple
months
to
see
how
many
people
actually
were
able
to
get
funding,
so
we
had
big
banks,
all
the
way
down
to
office
bank
and
beacon
bank
and
the
climb
fund
were
just
a
few
of
the
businesses
or
banks
that
were
there.
A
I
I
heard
that
councilman
gregory
asked,
but
I
think
we
have
a
new
person.
That's
over
the
rose
program
now
yeah,
so
maybe
he
should
be
contacted
so
he
can
get
involved
if
you're
made
to
attend
to
attend
some
of
these
workshops
and
meetings.
So
if
something
can
be
materialized
from
that,
maybe
it
can
happen
right.
G
F
May
know
that
has
been
outsourced
to
another
community
agency.
A
H
Oh
I'm.
The
reason
why
I
brought
it
up
is
that
mr
baker
assembled.
H
Somebody,
okay,
somebody's
knocking
my
door,
I'm
sorry,
mr
baker
assembled
a
group
of
people
and
had
a
community
lunch
and
the
the
focus
was.
What
can
we
do
for
minority
youth?
H
Jimmy
bailey
was
there
and
he
did
a
presentation
on
the
rose
kids
and
at
the
time
I
didn't
know
that
you
know
we
had
gotten
someone
specifically
to
deal
with
that,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
interest
because
there
was
this
again
discussion
and
this
is
not
new
to
uruz
in
terms
of
trying
to
develop
a
cottage
industry
for
pulling
them
all
together
and
try
to
develop
a
multi-million
dollar
corporation.
H
So
that
was
put
on
the
table
and
I
think
that
jimmy
was
supposed
to
contact.
Whoever
is
responsible
for
it
now
to
have
some
discussion.
Okay,.
F
Around
and
so
we'll
definitely
mindy
stern
is
the
contact
here
for
the
city
and,
of
course,
she's.
The
director
of
youth
and
family
services,
here
in
in
the
city.
G
F
And
so
our
next
big
project
that
we're
doing
is
the
james
lewis.
We
don't
know
what
we're
going
to
call
it
yet
it's
the
mwbe
incubator,
retail
space
and
corner
store.
It's
going
to
be
located
at
the
james
lewis
apartment
complex
at
91,
hannover
street.
We
are
excited
about
this
particular
incubator
or
accelerator.
F
We're
going
to
be
open
for
names.
What
we
want
to
name
this
building
on
I've
talked
with
the
south,
carolina
commerce
and
they
said
incubators
is
best
safe.
So
we
need
to
call
it
something
else,
and
so
I
will
be
open
to
getting
your
input
on
this,
but
this
is
where
we
are
the
developer
there
at
the
james
lewis,
apartment
complex
has
agreed
to
provide
the
city
of
charleston
with
this
8
000
square
feet
of
space.
F
On
the
first
floor
of
the
james
lewis,
apartment
complex
on
the
first
floor
is
where
we're
going
to
have
an
incubator,
as
you
can
see
on
one
side
will
be
our
traditional
office.
Co-Working
spaces,
training,
spaces,
resource
spaces,
conference
rooms,
a
data
center
all
will
be
in
this
space,
then
also
what's
unique
too.
Is
this?
F
F
Well
one
of
the
things
is
this:
we
have
so
many
businesses
who
are
purveyors
of
products
or
supplies,
but
cannot
necessarily
afford
a
space
here,
downtown
charleston
and
so
being
able
to
have
this
retail
space
for
businesses
to
to
provide
them
access
opportunity
to
sell
their
products,
and
in
this
retail
space
is
one
of
the
ideas
we
have.
F
As
you
know,
there
is
a
food
desert
there
I
like
to
call
it
in
the
middle
town
there
that
we
don't
have
a
grocery
store,
that's
very,
very
close,
and
so
we
have
all
these
apartments
and
affordable
housing
complex.
That
are
coming
up
and
around
that
area
and
we
thought
having
a
corner
store.
A
real
nice
corner
store
with
fresh
vegetables,
reasonable
costing
food
would
be
there
at
the
corner
store,
and
so
this
incubator
will
help
reconnect
the
community.
F
This
is
in
a
space
that
was
subdivided
when,
when
they
brought
in
the
new
arthur
ravenel
bridge-
and
they
you
know-
divided
the
community-
we're
looking
at
this
space
to
be
a
connect,
a
connectivity
of
the
community,
of
bringing
it
back
together.
Even
some
of
the
residents
that
will
be
up
in
the
apartment
may
want
to
be
able
to
utilize,
even
the
incubator.
Maybe
somebody
want
to
think
about
starting
a
business,
so
we
want
it
to
be
community
for
focused,
as
well
as
creating
new
businesses
and
helping
existing
businesses
within
this
space.
F
And
so
these
are
some
of
the
key,
essential
programming
and
resources
that
we're
looking
at
that
the
the
incubator
will
provide
mentorship
and
advising
education
and
training,
support
and
accountability,
a
co-work
space
and
tools
for
success
and
then
also
keeping
in
mind
access
to
capitalism,
as
all
of
these
will
be
the
key
components
and
the
focus
of
this
incubator,
and
so
we're
working
with
this
with
the
subcommittee
to
determine
who
are
going
to
be
our
target
market
in
terms
of
businesses
that
will
be
will
have
access
to
this.
What
kind
of
membership?
F
A
I
don't
have
a
question,
but
pretty
soon
the
south
carolina
state
community
center
will
be
open.
A
And
maybe
we
need
to
even
get
with
them
to
see
what
type
programs
that's
going
to
be
there
too.
A
So
maybe
we
wouldn't
have
to
be
a
duplication
if
you
may
that
if
this
can
work
in
conjunction
with
one
another,
because
they're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
different
programs
in
there,
that's
going
to
be
staffed
by
south
carolina
state
university
and
some
of
the
people
from
the
community.
So
I
don't
know
exactly
what
type
program
is
going
to
be
in
there
yet
because
I
spoke
with
dale,
but
we
haven't
come
up
with
that.
F
And
so
that's
part
of
that
mapping
piece
that
christina
talked
about
looking
at
what
resources
are
available
and
who's
doing
what
within
the
ecosystem,
because
we
don't
want
to
duplicate,
we
want
to
be
able
to
provide
access
and
we
have
resource
partners
that
we'd
like
to
partner
with,
and
so
that
might
be
another
organization
that
we'd
like
to
partner
with,
because
we
have
so
many
community
partners
such
as
the
crime
funnel
svdc,
the
women's
business
center,
all
a
part
of
our
partners,
and
so
we
definitely
would
like
to
partner
with
the
south
carolina
alumni,
as
well
as
trident
tech,
which
is
right
around
the
corner
as
well.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you
ruth
I
I
haven't
wanted
to.
You
know
really
like
interrupt
your
excellent
recap
of
a
lot
of
these
things.
So
just
just
building
on
what
you
just
said
in
terms
of
the
you
know
likely
partners,
do
you
have
a
short
list
of
the
people
that
you
are
are
inviting
to
be
on
the
planning
task
force
or,
however,
you
described
it
for
the
I
and
I've
heard
the
word
jump
start
is
a
popular
way
of
talking
about
the
incubator.
I
You
know
industry
right
now,
so
I
throw
that
one
out
there.
I
think
it's
very
high
energy
and
easy
to
remember,
but
do
you
do
you?
Have
you
all
created
a
short
list
of
the
people
that
you're
gonna
you
know,
look
to
to
not
duplicate
and
and
and
be
the
force
multipliers,
which
would
be
another
way
of
talking
about
this
you're
you're,
multiplying.
I
J
I
Particularly
interested
in
and
your
in
your
conversations-
and
you
know
hopefully
meaty
discussions
with
low
country
local
first
and
the
ywca,
who
have
each
and
they've
joined
forces
to
to
a
big
extent
in
educating
and
preparing
women
in
business
and
minorities
in
business.
So
I'm
hoping
that
you've
got
some.
You
know
very
ongoing,
thorough
connections
to
be
determining
for
that.
I
My
also
my
my
you
know,
I
guess
advice
or
or
or
questions
would
focus
around
staffing
for
this
facility
and
again
I
do
think
that
you
could
be
bringing
in
the
groups
that
are
already
better
prepared
to
provide
that
kind
of
ongoing
staffing
than
the
city's
budget
you
know
was
was
probably
going
to
allow
in
the
short
term.
So
I'm
hoping
that
you'll,
you
know
you've
got
a
lot
of
those
irons
in
the
fire.
I
I
I'm,
I
don't
know
how
much
time
you've
allotted
to
the
whole
report
meg,
but
I
I
do
have
some
other.
You
know
more
holistic
comments
about
the
focus
of
that
of
the
goals
and
strategies
that
you've
put
in
front
of
us
today.
So
I'm
I'm
happy
to
sit
back
and
wait
for
that
opportunity.
In
a
minute.
F
And
so
councilmember
jackson,
we
are
putting
together
a
short
list
currently,
but
the
list
is
open.
We're
going
to
have
a
a.
I
guess
what
we
like
to
call
it
a
retreat
matter
of
fact.
F
Over
at
low
country
first,
I
mean
low
country
first,
we're
going
to
be
using
their
space
to
do
an
incubator
retreat
on
december,
the
11th
to
talk
about
these
programmatic
strategies
and
identifying
our
resource
partners,
and
so
some
of
the
agencies
that
you
talked
about
is
at
the
table
to
have
this
discussion
around
and
so
on
december
the
11th
we
will
be
having
a
a
three-hour
retreat
over
at
low
country
first
on
that's
a
saturday
and
you're
welcome
to
attend
and
we'll
send
you
an
invite
as
well
and
and
we're
open
to
any
partners
that
you
think
that
we
need
to
have
at
the
table.
F
F
However,
we
have
to
be
responsible
for
finishing
out
the
construction
and
furnishing
the
incubator
and
we're
looking
at
an
estimation
of
1.5
million
dollars
and
we're
only
going
to
be
paying
a
dollar
a
year
for
the
space,
but
we're
responsible
for
finishing
out
the
construction
and
the
furniture,
because
they're
going
to
deliver
to
us
a
warm
vanilla
shell,
which
is
going
to
have
the
walls,
the
ceilings,
the
electrical,
but
the
light
fixtures
won't
be
in
the
furnishings,
won't
be
in
and
we'll
be
responsible
for
that.
H
Have
you
have
you
identified
a
source
yet
for
the
1.5
million.
F
H
G
I
I
G
K
So,
if
I
may
add,
we,
we
did
include
this
on
our
list
for
the
state
of
funds
that
the
south
carolina,
senate
and
house
will
be
considering
when
they
reconvene
in
in
january,
and
senator
kimson
has
has
made
this
a
high
priority
for
for
us
to
to
advocate
for
this
funding.
So
if
you
see
any
of
our
representatives
or
state
senators
between
now
and
the
first
of
the
year,
keep
plugging
forward
thanks.
F
Thank
you
mayor,
so
you
can
see
that
these
are
things
that
we've
already
been
working
towards
even
before
the
report
came
out,
and
so
everything
that
we're
doing
is
again
headed
in
the
right
direction
in
terms
of
increasing
women.
Minority-Owned
businesses
here
in
the
city,
as
well
as
developing
into
growth,
existing
businesses.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
and
I
have
one
more
slide
for
you
all
before.
I
turn
this
over
to
some
guest
presenters
that
we
have
so
one
of
the
final
things
that
the
subcommittee
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
was
access
to
capital
and
getting
funds
into
the
hands
of
business
owners.
We
here
in
our
office.
That's
that's
not
something
that
we
do.
We
don't
have
a
lending
arm
and
the
city
currently
now
the
client
fund
is
its
own
independent
organization.
C
We
don't
really
do
small
business
lending
in-house.
So
if
we
were
to
do
that,
we
would
have
to
work
with
the
partner
organizations
and,
as
we
were
talking
about
coming
to
you
all
to
do.
This
report
amber
mentioned
that
she
is
part
of
another
group
that
has
been
looking
at
these
recommendations
and
how
to
actualize
them.
So
I
am
actually
going
to
turn
it
over
to
amber
to
introduce
that
group
and
they
are
going
to
give
you
guys
a
presentation
of
what
it
would
look
like
if
we
were
to
actualize
some
of
those
recommendations.
D
Thanks
meg,
so
tess,
martin
from
the
coastal
community
foundation
reached
out
to
councilman
tacker,
and
I
about
this
opportunity.
She
is
the
finance
officer
at
coastal
and
she
oversees
her
place
based
impact
investment
investing
program.
D
She
thought
that
this
program
was
in
alignment
with
the
economic
empowerment
committee,
and
so
we've
been
participating
with
her
in
a
program.
That's
sponsored
by
the
philadelphia
federal
reserve
called
reinventing
our
communities
and
tess
is
going
to
present
on
the
project
in
the
whole
cohort
that
we've
been
participating
in
with
philadelphia
reserve.
J
Well,
let
me
just
begin
by
taking
a
moment
to
thank
mayor
teclenberg
as
well
as
members
of
council.
I
appreciate
you
guys
have
taken
the
time
to
hear
what
we've
been
doing
with
the
charleston
reinventing
our
communities
program.
As
amber
mentioned,
she
and
councilman
sacrament
have
been
participating
in
what
is
known
as
reinventing
our
communities.
It
is
a
philadelphia-sponsored
program
we
are
actually
charleston.
J
City
of
charleston
is
participating
on
behalf
of
the
richmond
federal
reserve,
so
richmond
overseeing
north
and
south
carolina,
and
we
were
approached
with
this
opportunity
in
may
of
this
year
to
really
dive
into
a
10-month
racial
equity
training.
The
first
half
was
was
to
go
through
racial
equity
and
then
for
the
last
six
weeks,
or
so
we've
been
meeting
every
other
week
to
discuss
technical
assistance,
support
training
for
small
businesses.
J
Again,
so
the
the
focus
of
this
year's
reinventing
our
communities
program,
or
we
just
been
calling
rock
for
short
because
it
does
have
a
long
name-
is
to
build
back
our
local
economies,
with
a
focus
on
equitable
support
for
minority
owned
businesses,
post
pandemic
postcode
19..
J
J
We
looked
to
the
economic
empowerment
recommendations
from
the
special
commission
to
ensure
that
we
were
building
upon
the
work
that
had
been
done
for
the
last
year
and
and
really
looking
to
those
recommendations
and
how
we
can
support
the
goals
and
the
conversations
that
were
had
in
that
committee,
as
well
as
the
efforts
of
the
city.
J
One
of
our
cohort
members,
bernie
mazique,
was
on
the
special
commission
or
the
economic
empowerment
subcommittee
and
was
able
to
lend
you
know
additional
insight
into
what
the
conversations
that
were
had
in
that
group.
So
it
has
really
been
a
robust
discussion
over
the
last
couple
of
months.
We've.
You
know
not
only
with
the
the
racial
equity
training
but
with
the
technical
assistance.
We've
also
been
meeting
every
other
week
as
a
cohort
to
discuss
our
recommendations
in
ways
that
we
can
build
and
support
minority
businesses
in
our
community.
J
So
we've
also,
you
know
additionally
met
with
the
chamber,
had
conversations
about
the
minority
business
accelerator
program.
That's
recently
been
committed
with
the
dollars
the
grant
support
from
bank
of
america
with
adrian
and
kenya
to
discuss
ways
that
we
can
all
support
all
of
the
efforts
in
this
space
and
that
we're
not
recreating
the
wheel
here
or
duplicating
we're
just
working
together
to
ensure
the
the
success
of
minority
and
businesses
in
our
community
next
slide.
Thank
you.
J
So
the
the
ultimate
goal
that
the
cohort
has
really
chosen
to
focus
on
is
to
empower
and
support
a
network
of
thriving
minority
businesses
in
charleston
surrounding
area.
As
you
all
know,
many
there's
gentrification
that's
happened
within
charleston
pushed
many
small
businesses
out.
You
know
a
report
released
from
stanford
economic
policy.
Research
last
year
stated
that
41
percent
of
black
women
businesses
closed
between
february
and
april
of
2020,
which
was
a
rate
higher
than
any
other
demographic.
J
So
we
are
really
focused
on
ways
with
this
cohort
that
we
can
support
the
minority
businesses
in
our
communities
as
you'll
see,
there's
nine
members
that
have
been
participating
in
this.
You
know
cohort
of
cohorts
ranging
from
across
the
country
there's
actually
three
cities
in
pennsylvania,
florida
charleston
las
vegas
minnesota.
So
we
really
have
been
sort
of
immersed
in
this
conversation
with
hundred-plus
participants
to
discuss
ways
that
all
of
our
our
all
of
our
communities
have
been
impacted
and
ways
that
we
can.
You
know,
share
best
practices.
J
What
our
individual
organizations
are
doing
to
to
really
lift
up
and
support
the
businesses
in
our
community
with
a
focus
on
minority-owned
businesses.
J
So
today,
I'm
really
here
to
discuss
an
opportunity.
You
know
I
amber
johnson
is
a
cohort
member
and
we've
been
having
these.
You
know
conversations
around
the
initiatives
in
in
order
to
support
the
thriving
minority
business
ecosystem
and
think
that
there's
really
a
two-fold
approach
for
us
to
receive
funding
an
opportunity
for
us
to
receive
funding
and
then
a
three-pronged
approach
for
us
to
sort
of
build
out
our
plan.
So
I
just
wanted
to
you
know
briefly
give
an
overview
and
then
go
into
detail
in
the
next
couple
of
slides.
J
But
you
know,
ideally
in
order
to
support
the
efforts
of
the
rock
cohort
we'd,
be
able
to
leverage
capital
and
arpa
funds
to
to
have
numbers
that
we
can
work
with
as
we're.
You
know
we're
getting
together
over
the
next
couple
of
months.
J
We
actually
present
at
the
end
of
march
for
the
final
cohort
presentations,
our
racial
equity
toolkit,
which
is
being
used
to
build
out
those
six
steps
in
ways
that
we
can
support
minority
owned
businesses
and
create
success
from
you
know,
startup
to
succession,
so
2.25
million
dollars
up
to
is
being
asked
of
the
arca
funds
to
seed
and
sustain
small
businesses,
and
that's
a
request
of
500
000
to
750
000,
which
would
look
like
small
business
grants,
as
well
as
scaling
for
success,
which
is
a
request
of
1.25
to
1.5
million
for
minority
owned
business
investments.
J
I
I'm
sorry,
can
you
are
you?
When
do
you
say
the
arpa
funds?
Are
you
talking
about
the
cities
delivered
arpa
funds,
the
20
million?
Okay,
not
not
not
what
we're
applying
for
directly
to
the
governor
or
to
the
legislature.
G
J
The
the
what
is
left
of
the
second
chance
of
available
arpa
dollars
for
the
city
of
charleston,
thanks,
so
that
first
initiative
the
way
the
cdn
sustaining
small
businesses.
This
would
really
inspire
and
support
startups.
J
So
this
500
to
750
000
of
small
business
grants
would
be
early
access
to
capital
for
those
entrepreneurs
that
are
looking
to
launch
new
business
initiatives.
So
I
know
as
part
of
the
recommendations,
one
of
which
was
the
creation
of
300
new
businesses,
and
so
looking
at
you
know,
putting
a
dollar
on
what
up
to
a
five
thousand
dollar
new
business
grant
would
look
like
that
could
potentially
support
a
hundred
new
minority
owned
business
on
enterprises.
J
So
these
would
you
know
these
five
thousand
dollars
up
to
would
be
a
one-time
early
stage,
access
grant
that
we
would
actually
partner
with
sub-grantees
such
as
low-country
local,
first
spaced
crime
fund
to
get
these
dollars
into
the
hands
of
entrepreneurs
that
are
looking
to
launch
a
business.
This
could
be
anything
from
marketing
costs.
You
know
purchasing
equipment,
creating
a
website
accounting
services,
but
that
really
early
access
to
capital.
J
Many
small
businesses
don't
don't
always
go
through,
especially
minority
owned
businesses.
Don't
always
go
through
your
typical
financial
institution
to
access
capital
we'd
like
to
avoid
entrepreneurs
considering
you
know
credit,
putting
a
substantial
amount
on
their
credit
cards,
or
you
know,
reaching
out
to
payday
lenders
and
and
racking
up
debt.
That
is,
you
know
at
a
incredible
interest
rate.
So
these
you
know
there
would
be
certain
requirements
in
order
to
be
eligible
to
tap
into
these
grand
dollars,
but
they
would
be.
J
And
then
the
second
initiative
would
be
scaling
for
success
and
this
would
look
like
a
revolving
loan
fund,
so
this
request
is
1.25
to
one
and
a
half
million
for
minority
owned
business
investments.
J
Ccf
has
launched
our
place
based
impact
investment
portfolio
as
meg
mentioned
icon.
I
oversee
those
initiatives
that
was
launched
in
2018,
and
so
we
have
experience
getting
those
dollars
out
the
door
and
into
the
hands
of
businesses
to
support
economic
empowerment.
J
We
would
partner
with
cdfis
and
local
banks
to
invest
in
and
offer
borrower-friendly
loans
to
blackboard
businesses.
These
would
really
be
targeted
to
businesses
that
are
looking
to
scale
more
mature,
ready
to
potentially
grow
their
efforts,
hire
additional
employees
with
loans
ranging
from
550
000
to
250
000.
J
You
know
the
another
recommendation
that
was
made
as
part
of
the
economic
empowerment
subcommittee
was
black
business
building
ownership,
so
thinking
about
an
infrastructure
fund
so
that
we
can
encourage
black
business
owners
to
think
about
building
ownership
and
and
that
long-term
succession
planning
and
ensuring
that
their
you
know,
their
businesses
are
in
it
for
the
long
term.
J
You
know
we
all
know
that
rents
are
continue
to
increase,
and
so
we
want
to
ensure
that
these
businesses
that
are
currently
operating
and
existing
within
the
city
have
an
opportunity
to
to
stay
in
the
space
that
they're
operating
out
of
and
don't
get
priced
out
and
pushed
out
to
you
know
outer
boroughs
or
outer
outer
bands
of
north
charleston
or
outside
of
the
you
know.
The
city
just
to
you
know,
provide
a
couple
of
investment
success
stories
from
coastal
community
foundation.
J
This
will
be
actually
opening
next
month,
which
is
exciting
to
announce,
and
I
failed
to
mention
my
two
of
my
colleagues
on
this
call,
and
I
apologize
for
that.
But
abigail
darlington
is
our
community.
She
oversees
all
of
our
communications
efforts
for
coastal
community
foundation
as
well
as
dorothea
bernie,
who
is
also
a
cohort
member
and
is
the
ed
of
increasing
hope
and
they
provide
technical
assistance,
financial
literacy
and
will
be
one
of
the
four
non-profit,
tenants
and
partners.
This
is
a
forever
home
for
them,
including
stacey
and
center
for
airs.
J
J
So
you
know
one
of
the
requirements
for
our
impact
fund
was
to
provide
and
report
out
on
social
impact
measurements
as
well,
not
only
being
a
minority
owned
gc,
but
also
he
hired
three
subcontractors
and
18
employees
with
an
82
minority
employment
rate,
so
providing
capital
for
him
to
take
on
additional
projects
and
work.
In
the
you
know,
the
construction
of
the
hospital
a
few
years
ago
further
provided
for
job
growth
and
opportunities
for
employment
at
18
an
hour
for
those
employees
as
well
as
job
skills
and
training,
while
working.
J
So
it
is
equal
parts,
financial
as
well
as
social.
You
know
we
partner,
we've
partnered
with
cdfis
at
a
low
interest
rate
for
this
to
you
know,
so
those
dollars
can
subsequently
be
invested
in
the
communities
that
need
the
access
to
capital
desperately
and
at
a
lower
lower
cost
of
rate.
To
borrow
than
you
know,
higher
lending
oftentimes
traditional
financial
institutions.
J
And
I
did
you
know,
I
did
want
to
note
that
there
is
a
consideration
for
an
administration
fee.
So
while
ccf
would
be
the
the
partner
organization
to
get
these
funds
out
the
door,
we
would
really
be
there
to
run
the
program,
ensure
reporting
standards
and
that
the
dollars
are
are
being
used
for
what
they
you
know
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
the
dollars
as
expressed
in
any
art
restrictions
or
the
city
of
charleston,
as
well
as
a
loan
loss
reserve.
J
Important
to
note
for
the
you
know
the
scaling
for
success
while
they're
always
you
know
you
hope,
for
a
100
success
rate.
You
know
speaking
with
my
peers,
especially
cindy
rourke
from
the
climb
fund.
She
is
also
a
member
of
the
cohort
and
it's
important
to
make,
maintain
and
make
sure
that
there's
a
percentage
for
loan
loss
reserve
for
those.
You
know
in
case
of
failure.
J
And
then
next
slide,
please
so,
then,
just
to
see
full
circle.
The
third
initiative
that
the
rock
is
really
focused
on
is
building
out
a
small
business
ecosystem.
J
So,
as
I
mentioned
skates
at
an
increasing
hope,
two
partners
of
the
cohort
they
you
know
very
excited
to
share
that
they
were
recently
awarded
an
eda
grant,
as
well
as
an
sba
community,
navigator
pilot.
C
J
Grant
to
sustain
their
efforts
around
technical
assistance
training.
So
while
we
are
not
asking
as
part
of
this,
you
know
the
art
of
funds
asking
for
dollars
to
support
this
initiative.
J
I
did
think
it
was
important
to
share
with
you
all
how
we
sort
of
will
see
this
full
circle
in
the
safe,
the
seating
and
sustaining
scaling
for
success
and,
ultimately,
building
a
small
business
ecosystem,
so
those
grant
dollars
that
our
partner,
our
cohort
partners
were
awarded
towards
the
goals
of
their
organizations
and
technical
assistance
will
also
leverage
into
our
ultimate
plan
of
the
the
entire
build
out
of
the
rock
recommendations.
J
You
know
this
could
look
like
program
support
staff
contract
services.
You
know
we've
had
discussions
in
depth
about
what's
missing,
potentially
money
management,
credit
repair
who's
at
the
table.
J
You
know
like
like
was
discussed
in
the
last
the
last
presentation,
with
ruth
and
meg
who's
at
the
table
and
who's
doing
what
and
we're
making
sure
that
there's
equitable,
you
know
representation
that
people's
voices
that
all
the
people
that
are
doing
this
work
are
really
being
brought
into
the
conversation
that
we're
not
necessarily
duplicating
our
efforts,
but
that
we're
we're
there
to
ensure
that
we
do
have
enough
assistance.
J
And
you
know
dorothea
if
you
can
speak
to
this,
but
I
know
her
serving
as
the
increasing
hope
there
is
a
long
queue
and
a
long
wait
list
of
individuals
that
are
looking
to
receive
that
one-on-one
assistance
and
that
training.
So
I
think
there
is
room
at
the
table
for
additional
individuals
to
be
there
to
provide
that
technical
assistance
to
ensure
success
for
these
businesses.
J
J
We
want
to
make
sure
that
they
have
access
to
become
successful
and
then
thinking
about
the
longevity
of
their
business
and
how
they
ensure
that
they're
successful
long
term
in
their
in
their
plans
for
succession
planning
and
and
how
we
can
ensure
that
you
know
they
have
a
place
in
our
community
access
to
the
funds
and
the
capital
that
is
needed
and
continue
to
grow
their
efforts
so
that
they
can
provide
additional
jobs
to
community
members.
J
With
this,
you
know,
with
this,
ask
we're
we're
continuing
to
build
out
the
the
rock
cohort
plan
and
our
recommendations.
While
we
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
so
and
build
the
plan
regardless
we
want
to.
It
would
be
incredibly
helpful
and
beneficial
to
understand
and
know
what
access
to
capital
we
might
have
in
order
to
actually
fund
those
projects
that
we're
making
those
those
three
initiatives,
there's
three
real
goals:
those
seating
and
that
early
access
to
capital.
J
That's
scaling
for
success
as
well,
as
you
know,
not
part
of
the
rps,
but
the
the
technical
assistance.
So
we're
one
third
of
the
way
there
and
we'd
really
like
to
be
able
to
to
you
know,
come
to
you
all
with
a
and
ask
of
how
we
could
potentially
tap
into
the
city's
arpa
dollars
to
support
these
efforts,
building
upon
the
economic
empowerment
subcommittee
and
just
taking
those
recommendations
running
with
them
and
getting
them
putting
them
to
work.
J
And
with
that,
I
welcome
any
questions
and
appreciate
your
time.
J
I
Said,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
sorry
that
councilmember
saccharin
wasn't
able
to
be
on
the
sea
committee
as
he
normally
would
today.
So
I
just
texted
him
I
said
he's
been
hiding
his
rock
light
under
a
bushel
because
I
didn't
know
anything
about
this.
We
communicate
regularly
about
our
goals
for
economic
development,
especially
in
the
minority
business
community
and-
and
so
this
is.
This
is
a
very
happy
surprise
to
me,
as
I'm
ending
my
term
on
council.
I
I
I
I
guess
in
looking
at
the
the
actual
details
of
the
economic
empowerment
set
of
recommendations,
and
I
appreciate
that
the
report
that's
being
given
to
us
today
is
you
know,
sort
of
building
from
the
executive
summary
section
of
the
report
and
and
staying
more
at
a
high
level,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
know
in
in
being
a
witness
to
all
of
the
good
work
ongoing.
I
As
meg
said,
you
know,
weekly
work
of
the
economic
empowerment
subcommittee
was
the
idea
of
helping
business
owners
become
stakeholders
in
the
real
estate
game
in
the
city
as
well.
So
nothing
that
I've
heard
from
you
all.
You
know
addresses
that.
I
appreciate
that
you're
trying
to
be
you
know,
judicious
and
asking
us
for
money
that
we
actually
have
control
of
with
the
with
the
arpa
fund
delivery.
I
But
I
I
personally
resonate
with
the
the
education
that
I
received
from
the
former
ceo
of
what
wasn't
the
climb
fund
yen.
It
is
the
climb
fund
now
steve
saltzman,
and
I
know
that
mr
mazeek
was
also
equally
vocal
and
educational
to
all
of
us
about
the
the
idea
of
establishing
a
capital
portfolio
that
would
be
a
guarantee
for
business
owners
that
would
normally
not
be
worthy
of.
You
know
the
the
best
loan
terms
from
a
a
traditional
financing.
I
I
They
were
trying
to
accomplish
with
that
with
that
capitalization
and
if
we
had
a
guarantee
fund
that
could
make
that
more
of
a
90
loan
to
value
and
and
then
that,
because
the
whole
construct
of
that
is
when
you've
got
a
portfolio,
that
is,
that
is
being
spread
out
over
a
lot
of
borrowers,
that
that
would
be
eligible
to
get
that
extra
20
on
a
loan
as
a
as
a
guarantee
the
odds
of
losing
that
extra
20
on
any
one
business
owner.
I
You
know
going
out
of
business
or
not
being
able
to
pay
out
on
their
debt
are
very
low,
so
it
becomes
a
pretty
much
of
a
sure
thing
for
the
guarantor
to
be
able
to
use
those
monies
over
and
over
and
over
again,
and
that
builds
the
success
and
the
wealth
that
I
think
we're
all
truly
hoping
will
be
the
result
of
this
amazing
set
of
recommendations
that
you
know
the
the
special
commission
committee
members
worked
on
for
a
year,
so
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there.
I
I
know
this
not,
for
you
know
any
conversation
right
this
minute,
but
I
do
hope
the
coastal
conservation
foundation
will
take
or
because
I'm
sorry,
the
foundation
will
take
seriously
that
kind
of
recommendation
from
from
the
subcommittee,
as
well
as
the
city
and
again
go
to
the
private
sector
to
be
able
to
supplement
those
sorts
of
bigger
numbers.
So
if
we
had
to
vote
today,
I
would
support
your
ask
you're
not
asking
us
to
vote
today,
and
I
I
do
hope
that
it
goes
forward
thanks.
J
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
I
do
want
to
just
lift
up
and
and
share,
because
I
I
know
I
kind
of
probably
glazed
over
it,
but
they're
within
the
initiative.
Number
two:
that's
scaling
for
success.
There
actually
is
the
conversation
we
have
had
that
conversation
and
the
inclusion
of
the
infrastructure
fund
to
support
black
building
ownership.
J
So
that
is
very
intentional
in
our
efforts
to
make
sure
that
we
are
supporting
business
owner
or
black
business
owners
that
are
looking
to
actually
purchase
property
and
and
think
about
the
longevity
of
their
business,
and
there
are
different
types
of
types
of
credit
that
that
the
loan
you
know
if
it
was
the
one
and
a
half
or
the
one
and
a
quarter
to
one
and
a
half
could
potentially
look
like
you
know:
long-term
capital
guarantees.
J
So
you
know
you
mentioned
that
you
know
that
get
loan
guarantee
for
to
bring
that
to
a
90
10
line
of
credit
for
business
developers,
and
this
is
where
we
would
really
look
to
partner
with
our
financial
institution
partners.
To
be
honest,
so
whether
it's
client
fund,
you
know
south
carolina
community
loan
fund
we've.
You
know:
we've
worked
with
community
works
in
the
past
as
well,
they're
a
statewide
cbfi,
and
they
make
investments
in
in
all
areas
of
the
state
but
being
thoughtful
in
that
regard.
J
To
make
sure
that
we're
thinking
about
the
different
types
of
capital
that
can
be
actually
infused
into
the
the
community.
H
Yes,
the
banks
in
their
cra
community
reinvestment
act
to
kind
of
work
to
capture
some
of
councilmember
jackson's
issue
with
regard
to
guarantee,
because
they
would
they
they
would
have
the
resources
to
be
able
to
do
it
and
they
may
be
able
to
do
it
through
their
cra.
J
We
have
explored
cra,
especially
for
some
of
you
know.
Cf,
I'm
saying
we
I'm
speaking
from
ccs
perspective
here,
I'm
kind
of
taking
off
my
rock
hat
ccf
has
often
explored
opportunities
to
partner
with
with
banks
for
their
cra
funds.
In
a
you
know,
in
a
interesting
and
creative
way
to
to
tap
into
capital.
J
This
is
that
doesn't
necessarily
come
up
yet
with
this
program,
but
I
think
it's
an
excellent
point
and
you
know
I'll
note
that
ways
that
we
can
engage
with
local
banks,
whether
that's
you
know,
banks
located
on
the
peninsula
in
our
community
communities
that
have
made
commitments
to
to
you
know:
finance
specific
dollar
amount
in
our
communities
around
these
types
of
initiatives,
so
we'll
certainly
explore
that
as
an
opportunity
to
access
capital
for
these
types
of
projects,
especially
for
the
the
building
ownership.
H
And
I
think
that
one
of
the
banks
that
miss
jordan
mentioned
beacon
might
be
prime
to
participate
in
that
they
are
community
oriented.
I
would
like
to
be.
K
Well,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and,
and
I
apologize,
I
need
to
sign
off
from
the
meeting,
but
before
I
did,
I
I
did
want
to
ask
and
by
the
way
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
all
the
thoughtfulness
that
went
into
this,
and
I
think
the
goals
and
the
strategy
strategies
are
all
things
that
we're
aligned
with.
K
I
am
curious,
given
the
I
guess,
you'd
say
pressure
on
our
own
arpa
funds
that
we
have
had
to
use
most
of
our
arpa
funds
just
to
try
to
make
our
annual
budgets
balance
last
year
and
and
even
in
going
into
next
year.
Have
you
asked
for
funding
from
other
sources?
Other
parts
of
arpa
and
community
coastal
community
foundation,
I
think,
has
assets
over
a
couple
hundred
million
dollars.
K
Are
you
asking
for
these
to
kind
of
spread
the
wealth
so
to
speak
and
share
the
the
cost
of
of
these
programs
you're
proposing.
J
We
have
not
explored
arpa
funds
outside
of
the
city
at
this
point,
I
know
that
you
know
this
opportunity
to
to
consider
the
trump
the
city
of
charleston
arbor
funds
came
up
from
a
conversation
with
amber
meg,
just
exploring
ideas
of
capital
that's
available.
So
while
we
have
not
yet
tapped
in
or
made
a
formal
ask
or
consideration
outside
of
the
city,
certainly
we'll
potentially
consider
that
you
know,
given
that
this
the
focus
is
supporting
businesses
in
the
city
and
the
alignment
with
the
economic
empowerment
recommendations.
J
We
thought
it
would
be
beneficial
to
to
approach
this
committee
and
think
about
the
city
of
toronto
funds.
You
know
regarding
ccf
and
our
dollars,
we
most
of
our
dollars
are
restricted
to
donor,
advised
funds.
We
do
have
our
impact
portfolio
and
that
you
know
has
consideration.
We
have
had
an
influx
of
you
know,
or
an
investment
in
communities
around
economic
empowerment,
job
creation,
especially
for
our
first
round
of
investments
that
was
actually
all
charleston-based
ccf
does
have
a
nine
county
footprint,
so
we're
along
the
coastline.
J
So
we
also
are
making
sure
that
we're
equitable
with
the
distribution
of
our
capital,
so
that
three
million
dollar
pbi
portfolio
is
really
based
for
all
nine
counties
and
should
you
know
there
be
an
opportunity
to
tap
into
our
dollars
that
would
partner
with
the
pbi
portfolio
that
would
specifically
be
earmarked
for
city
of
charleston
initiatives
as
well.
As
you
know,
minority-owned
businesses
that
are
operating
for
this
specific
initiative
and
agenda.
K
A
Thank
you.
I
think
we
had
two
already
signed
off
already,
so
we
can
go
into
anything
else,
any
ques,
any
other
questions.
We
have.
C
That
was
the
end
of
our
presentation,
so
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
so
much
for
giving
us
the
time
to
present
and
share
all
of
our
work
and
again
big,
shout
outs
to
my
staff,
who
put
this
together
and
have
been
working
on
all
of
these
projects,
and
we
are
happy
to
come
back
to
give
updates
or
answer
any
additional
questions
that
you
all
have.
A
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
the
information
and
almost
not
at
this
moment,
but
we'll
be
getting
some
things
looking
over
it,
so
we
can
keep
abreast
of
it,
but
I
thank
you
all
for
coming
in.
Thank
you
all
for
enlightening
us
with
all
this,
because
I
have
to
get
my
head
around
me
too.
H
Mr
chairman,
mr
chairman
gregory,
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
thank
you
for
for
making
the
hard
work
of
the
commission
become
real,
and
I
mean
that
that
also
goes
for
our
housing
and
community
development
office
as
well.
I
I,
I
think,
the
kind
of
seriousness-
and
I
think
the
word
is
intentional.
H
Okay,
intention
that
you
you're
putting
into
this
is,
is
exactly
what
the
commission's
vision
was
is
so
again,
I
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
and
if,
if
all
of
them
go
as
well
as
the
last
couple
that
we've
had,
I
think
we're
definitely
on
the
right
track
as
a
city.
A
We
are,
we
are
pushing,
we
are
pushing
forward
with
this
and
we're
going
to
do
the
best
we
can
and
because
I
I
don't
want
to
see
all
the
hard
work
that
the
volunteers
did
going
down
and
that
was
my
take
on
it.
A
lot
of
work.
A
lot
spent
a
lot
of
hours
and
council,
we
as
a
council.
We
instructed
them
to
go
out
and
do
this,
and
so
so
I
couldn't
let
this
go
by
and
fall
in
the
way.
H
A
Okay,
we
can
go
and
we
can
move
right
along
and
miss
johnson.
You
have
anything
else
to
say
about
this
particular
presentation,
I'll
be
going
to
the
other.
B
But
I
thank
many
thanks
to
may
the
coastal
community
foundation
all
of
the
team
members
that
played
a
part
in
this.
I
see
dorothea,
bernice's,
name
critical
partners
that
do
amazing
work
on
a
regular
basis,
so
we
appreciate
their
efforts.
So
thank
you
all.
Council
member,
there
are
two
other
items.
Your
number.
The
number
two
item
on
the
agenda
is
an
update
on
the
accessory
dwelling
units
and
an
affordability
period.
Therein.
G
B
When
you
all
considered
this
ordinance
previously,
it
did
not
have
an
affordability
period
defined.
It
inferred
that
the
affordability
period
would
be
for
perpetuity.
B
We,
since
that
time,
we've
had
quite
a
bit
of
calls
emails,
since
the
newspaper
articles
on
the
many
folks
are
interested
and
want
to
play
a
part
in
this,
I
think
we
have.
There
are
three
to
five
folks
that
email
matter
myself
on
a
weekly
basis
regarding
the
adus.
The
concern
from
most
of
the
residents
that
have
reached
out
to
us
is
the
the
idea
of
having
an
80
unit.
Ada
accessory
dwelling
unit
for
perpetuity
is
of
concern.
B
So
what
we
are
recommending
this
evening
is
that
we
put
an
affordability
period
on
this
of
30
years
and
naturally
this
would
have
to
go
back
to
planning
commission
again.
Our
goal
would
be
to
get
it
before
them
in
december,
and
I
know
that
we've
struggled
with
longer
term
affordability
periods
in
our
community.
B
L
Yeah
one
second
and
this
this
was
a
draft,
so
we've
made
some
additional
changes
since,
but
it's
pretty
straightforward,
it's
just
adding
a
restriction
so
that
the
affordability
period
lasts
for
30
years
on
the
accessory
dwelling
unit.
That's
really
what
it
is
and
again
there
have
been
a
couple
of
changes
that
would
be
presented
in
the
finished
version
for
planning
commission,
but
we'll
send
that
to
you
once
it's
ready
to
go.
B
And
so
chair
mitchell,
we
wanted
to
present
this
to
cd
committee
this
evening
because
we
brought
it
to
you
initially
to
secure
any
feedback
here.
Any
concerns
that
you
all
might
have,
as
we
stretch
towards
sending
this
to
the
pla,
sending
it
back
to
the
planning
commission
again
the
goal
being
to
increase
the
tools
and
opportunities
in
our
community
for
affordable
housing
and
actually
engage
in
a
way
that
we
never
have
before.
B
One
of
the
things
I
would
also
share
with
the
city
committee
of
city
council
is
that
many
cities
that
have
adu
ordinances
do
not
have
an
affordability
criteria.
Therein,
when
matt
did
the
outreach
and
research
to
a
number
of
cities
across
our
nation
and
even
locally
in
mount
pleasant,
they
don't
require
affordability
at
all.
B
So
we're
stretching
ourselves
a
bit
wanting
to
do
this
with
the
affordability
requirements
attached,
but
I
think
we
have
to
be
reasonable
in
our
approach,
and
so
we
want
to
at
least
add
this
in
see
how
it
works
and
move
forward
in
that
vein.
So
we
would
ask
your
support
of
it.
I
can
answer
any
questions
that
the
committee
might
have.
A
B
Who
are
doing
this
for
the
first
time?
And
we
have,
I
would
say,
virgin
homeowners
who
are
coming
into
the
development
industry
having
to
say
to
them
that
this
is
into
perpetuity
and
causes
them
to
back
off
and
shake
their
heads.
B
B
H
B
Would
still
shake
their
heads,
I
I'm
not
sure
how
they're
going
to
respond
to
30
30
had
been
our
typical
go-to
with
many
of
our
deals
in
the
past.
We
could
certainly
try
that,
but
we.
H
B
Right
so
what
we
agreed
to
and
what
you
all
agreed
to-
I
don't
know,
maybe
three
or
four
months
ago,
when
we
first
proposed
this-
is
that
for
the
first
10
applicants
approved
applicants,
we
would
put
in
20
000
upon
co
as
a
as
an
incentive,
and
I
think
that's
really
what
drew
a
number
of
people
to
this
process,
and
so
that
was
the
commitment
that
we
made
toward
incentivizing.
If
you
will
getting
the
adus
in
charleston.
H
G
J
B
To
keep
this
forever
so
when
you
tell
someone
who's
entering
into
the
development
arena,
investing
their
money
because
they're
investing
a
larger
portion
of
their
money
where
they
have
not
before
when
you
say
this
has
to
be
an
adu
unit
forever.
B
That's
pretty
daunting
to
folks
who
have
not
done
this
before
and
so
we're
literally
asking
homeowners
who
are
entering
into
this
market
the
first
time
to
keep
a
unit
affordable
for
perpetuity
that
seems
overwhelming
to
them,
and
so
many
of
them
have
have
kind
of
backed
off
and
asked
us
to
reconsider.
B
L
Yeah
I
mean,
as
gianna
said
earlier,
city
of
charleston
really
took
a
bold
stance
by
making
the
adus
to
be
affordable
effectively
in
perpetuity.
L
L
I
think
it's,
it's
just
a
matter
of
fine-tuning
the
ordinance
until
we
get
it
right
and
that's
that's
what
we've
found
in
other
cities
like
in
portland
seattle
around
the
country,
other
areas
that
it
takes
some
years
to
get
the
ordinance
correct,
and
even
you
know,
with
the
city
of
charleston,
we
have
this
affordability
restriction,
so
we
have
another
layer
of
policy
making
that
we
have
to
fine-tune.
So
that's
why
we're
here
to
request
this,
this
defining
the
affordability
period.
B
Correct
and
that's
what
we
had
done
in
the
past
when
we
entered
into
agreements
with
non-profit
corporations
who
were
building
units
in
the
city,
we
were
using
that
as
a
basis,
because
30
years
is
typical
mortgage
time
frame
on
on
loans
that
you
secure
from
the
financial
institutions.
H
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can?
We
can
tie
an
incentive
of
affordability
for
a
for
someone
who
purchases
it
after
the
30
year,
after
whatever
period
of
time
we
put
on
there?
Is
there
a
way
for
us
to
come
up
with
some
incentive
that
would
allow
whoever
the
new
owner
might
be
to
keep
the
affordability
for
another
30
years?.
B
Possibly
we
haven't
looked
that
far
because
we're
simply
trying
to
get
it
started
and
so
wanting
to
define
or
put
a
term
on
the
affordability
period
to
draw
them
in
initially
because,
as
matt
said,
even
though
we
have
it
out,
there
folks
have
expressed
interest.
We
have
not
had
anyone
to
actually
move
forward,
and
so
hence
our
reason
for
bringing
it
back
to
you
all,
first
in
anticipation
of
going
to
getting
commission
in
december.
L
A
I
mean
I
would
I
would
look
at
if
I
would
look
at
go.
If
you
look
at
the
40
years.
Oh
look
at
the
30
years
and
then
end
up
10
years
behind
it
that
will
still
bring
up
to
the
40
years.
You
know
in
in
just
looking
at
that
one,
but
if
you're
looking
at
30
years
just
to
get
them
in
there,
but
if
we
can
have
this
caviar
for
another
10
years
and
whoever
purchased
it
again,
that
will
still
kind
of
keep
it
affordable.
A
I
I
I
mean
I
I
I
do
think
that
you
know
across
across
communities
in
metropolitan
areas
that
are
struggling
with
providing
housing
units
overall,
that
you
know,
I
think
the
trend
is
to
sacrifice
the
affordability
for
the
opportunity
to
have
more
units,
no
matter
what
I
know
that
we
had
this.
I
You
know
pretty
extensive
discussion,
as
I
recall
a
couple
of
years
ago,
when
we
were
first
talking
about
this,
that,
by
by
making
the
adu
the
affordable
unit
were,
were
sometimes
I'm
taking
away
the
option
of
you
know
a
homeowner,
that's
aging
in
place,
for
example
that
might
want
to
move
into
that
unit
and
then
rent
their
house
out,
and
I
don't
know
how
the
you
know.
I
You
know
adu,
I
I
know
I
know
people
personally
who
are
doing
that
in
other
parts
of
the
country.
As
far
as
the
length
of
time
I
mean
I,
I
think
we
have
to
also
look
at
the
realistic.
You
know
challenges
to
needing
to
enforce
and
police
the
affordability.
First
of
all,
if
it's
on
the
deed,
at
the
time
that
the
house
has
issued
a
certificate
of
occupancy,
then
that's
a
pretty
definitive.
I
You
know
clock
you
can
say.
As
of
like,
when
my
house
was
built
july,
21st
2015
is
the
beginning
of
the
30-year
clock
to
have
to
reset
it
every
time
the
house
would
sell
and
knowing
that
we're
never
going
to
have
enough
staff
to
really
you
know,
pay
attention
to
these
kinds
of
things.
I
think
we
would
be
setting
ourselves
up,
for
you
know,
potential
failure,
or
at
least
criticism
that
we're
not
able
to
regulate
that
the
you
know
the
ordinances
that
we're
establishing.
So
those
are
just
my
two
observations.
I
I
B
Sure
and
councilwoman
jackson
to
one
of
your
points
and
f1
on
the
ordinance
either
the
principal
structure
or
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
must
be
owner
occupied.
So
there
is
some
options
there
to
serve
as
the
owner's
primary
residence.
My
preference,
as
we
did
before
we
submitted
this
to
planning
commission,
was
to
move
forward
with
a
recommendation
from
the
city
committee
of
city
council.
So
yes,
I
would
like
to
garner
that
from
you
all
this
evening,
whether
it
changes
once
we
get
to
planning,
commission
or
not,
will
be
determined
at
that
time.
H
H
I
think
that
that's
the
way
to
go,
mr
chairman,
that
the
majority
of
us
supported
it.
We
just
didn't,
have
a
quorum
just
to
vote
on
it.
Okay,
we
do
that.
G
H
Can
we
do
that,
madam
clerk.
A
Well,
so
we
also
make
the
recommendation
from
the
cd
committee
to
support
the
40
years
with
the
adu
going
to
the
planning
commission.
B
Okay,
very
good
and
finally,
the
last
item-
and
this
is
really
just
for
information,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
you
all
to
be
reminded
of
everything
that's
going
on
in
light
of
the
tremendous
need
for
affordable
housing
in
the
community.
B
You
all
are
very
familiar
with
the
james
lewis,
jr
apartments
64
units
for
persons
earning
60
and
below
that
is
in
peninsula,
charleston,
that
is
underway
at
this
time,
archer
elementary
school,
which
is
a
220
nassau
that'll,
be
from
80
to
88
units
of
senior
housing,
rental
housing
they
have
gone
through,
are
going
through
trc
and
have
applied
for
funding
from
the
state
so
making
good
progress
there,
abington
of
charleston,
which
is
near
the
barefoot's
parkway
that
will
be
90
units
of
family
rental
for
60
percent
and
below
they
have
had
their
challenges.
B
B
They
do
now
have
a
gap
in
funding
as
a
result
of
some
of
the
requirements
from
the
arb,
and
so
we
are
working
with
them
to
try
to
fill
that
gap,
and
it's
about
a
1.5
million
2
million
gap
that
we
are
working
with
the
crc
and
the
client
fund
to
determine
who
can
best
help
them
meet
that
gap,
bulls
creek,
which
is
at
2235
ashley
river
road.
You
all
are
familiar
if
you're
in
the
west
ashley
community
please
go
by.
They
are
probably
40
to
50
complete
on
construction,
making
great
progress
again.
B
If
you
are
in
that
area,
I
encourage
you
to
drive
by
there
62
units
of
rental
housing
for
families,
orleans
gardens,
formerly
orleans
gardens
now
waters
of
west
ashley.
That
is
a
full
substantial
rehabilitation
of
all
of
those
units,
all
100
units
there.
They
are
making
great
progress
there,
probably
40
percent
in
putting
in
new
hvacs
putting
in
a
new
center
for
the
children.
B
We
should
see
them
beginning
their
construction
end
of
first
quarter
of
2022.
They
have
finalized
their
funding,
they're
literally
waiting
on
the
state
accountability
office
to
approve
the
bond
dollars
that
have
been
put
forth.
Homes
of
hope.
They
are
building
the
peer
point
for
sale
product
to
75
units.
They
have
gotten
through
drb,
so
we
should
actually
see
progress
towards
construction
in
2022,
3073,
murray,
wood
road
is
just
one
project.
That's
in
the
preliminary
stages
that
will
be
forthcoming,
26
reed
street,
another
peninsula
property.
B
The
city
gave
that
property
to
charleston
habitat
that
is
about
70
complete,
but
that
will
be
provided
to
a
single
mom
and
her
child
very
exciting
79
cooper
street.
Coupled
with
five
porters
court.
We
actually
have
the
full
designs
for
those
we
actually
backed
off
starting
construction,
because
the
construction
costs
were
so
high.
They
were
well
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
we
plan
to
re-bid
that,
along
with
two
others,
first
quarter
of
2022,
the
esau
jenkins
village,
which
is
on
john's
island
maybank,
highway,
that's
72
units
of
senior,
I
believe,
and.
B
They
will,
I
heard
a
yes
thank
you.
They
will
begin
construction,
hopefully
summer
of
2022
36
cooper
street.
You
approved
transfer
of
that
property
to
palmetto
cap.
They
have
engaged
an
architect
for
that
development
and
we
will
see
a
minimum
of
four
to
six
units
of
rental
housing
from
60
to
80
percent.
There
1555
juniper
street.
B
We
will
release
bids
for
those
10
town
homes,
that
is
a
four
cell
product
in
the
ardmore
subdivision
10
units.
We
will
release
those
bids
in
first
quarter
of
2022
and
you
should
see
the
finalization
of
those,
hopefully
less
than
a
year
from
when
we
released
those
bids.
195
romney
street,
that
consists
of
about
five
units.
The
pastor's
organization
is
doing
that
in
concert
with
new
israel
reformed
episcopal
church.
There
are
total
five
of
those
units.
B
Two
of
those
will
be
affordable,
also
working
with
the
tame
foundation,
which
is
trinity,
ame
church
on
meeting
street
they're
going
they're
slated
to
build
five
units.
Three
of
those
will
be
in
the
affordable
realm
continuing
to
work
with
reverend
barnes's
church
at
60
nassau
street.
B
They
are
finalizing
another
two
units
in
the
rear
building,
which
is
an
historic
building,
and
so
they
are
moving
forward.
In
fact
they
will.
They
are
looking
at
a
partnership
with
one
of
our
hotwood
providers
so
that
those
units
will
be
available
for
that
population.
67
america,
street
you're
well
familiar
with
six
for
sale.
B
B
B
B
I
knew
I
needed
a
higher
number
there.
That's
why.
Thank
you
matt
for
that
clarity.
Bermuda
point
is
a
new
development.
The
charleston
redevelopment
corporation
is
working
with
the
berry
company
to
build
40
townhouses
west
ashley
30
of
those
will
be
affordable
and
then
finally,
2319
berta
garrett
street.
The
crc
has
purchased
that
property
and
there
is
one
single
family
detached
home
being
constructed
there.
That
totals
about
a
thousand
six
hundred
and
eighty
two
units
total.
A
Yet
miss
johnson,
if
you
have
opportunity,
could
you
give
me?
Could
you
get
a
copy
of
that
for
me
normally
most
of
them?
That's
in
my
district
most
because
I
have
a
whole
lot
of
them.
That's
coming
forth
in
the
district
from
rosemont
go
down,
so
I
just
want
to
get
a
look
at
that.
A
A
Okay,
because
I
know
that
at
first
it
was
based
on
income,
but
it
considers
sex-made
housing
and
that's
what
it
was
doing.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
going
to
still
remain
the
same
way
based
on
income.
The
way
it
was.
I
don't
know.
I
Chairman
mitchell,
I'm
going
to
say
that
as
the
three
old
dog
council
members
that
are
on
this
meeting,
that
we
should
challenge
ourselves
to
click
on
the
link
and
do
this
housing
dashboard
in
real
time.
Just
like
matt
showed
us
how
to
do
that.
So
I
think
we
could
get
together
I'll,
be
happy
to
be
the
guinea
pig
and
we'll
learn
how
to
look
at
the
dashboard.
It's
really
fun.
The
stormwater
department
has
done
the
same
thing.
They
put
their
projects
on
a
map
like
this.
I
K
L
Members
thanks
for
for
mentioning
that
I
just
want
to
plug
really
quick.
So
this
the
affordable,
housing
dashboard
dashboard
is
still
in
progress.
We're
still
developing
it,
but
I
want
to
thank
sandy
gagne
from
gis
and
chloe
suber,
with
our
planning
department
for
working
together
to
to
get
all
that
information
with
our
existing,
affordable
housing
properties
and
those
that
are
proposed
into
this
dashboard.
And
it's
going
to
be
the
the
finished
version
will
have
a
lot
more
information.
H
One
thing,
mr
chairman,
the
one
thing
that
I
did
notice
is
the
term,
and
most
of
them
were
30
to
40
years
in
terms
of
affordability,
at
least
in
some
of
the
ones
that
I
saw
and
the
reason
I
I
bring.
That
up
is.
H
Does
that
mean
in
another
30
years?
The
crisis
is
just
gonna,
it's
gonna
continue
and
continue.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
I'm
happy
and
satisfied,
and
but
I'm
just
saying
just
being,
you
know
real-
that
in
30
years
you
know
the
crisis
will
continue,
particularly
since
most
of
those
may
go
market
rate.
B
B
At
that
point,
the
city
should
be
cognizant
of
that's
one
of
the
recommendations
that
constantly
comes
up,
naturally
with
the
crc.
Those
go
into
a
trust,
so
those
are
99
years,
certainly
anything
that
we
help
to
facilitate
from
housing
and
community
development-
that's
90
years.
But
that
is
something
to
keep
our
eyes
and
ears
on,
because
it
does
have
an
impact
on
overall
availability
of
units
in
our
community
and-
and
I
have
no
further
items
for
you,
council
member
mitchell,.