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City of Charleston Community Development Meeting 11/17/22
A
He'll
catch
up
we'll
go
right,
real
startups.
Everybody
else
is
here
so
I
like
to
call
the
community
development
committee
meeting
to
order,
and
that's
in
the
time
now
is
I.
Think
it's.
Let
me
check
my
walk
check
my
time
now.
It's
303
and
the
first
thing
on
the
agenda
is
invocation
I'm,
going
to
ask
everyone
just
about
their
head
for
silence
the
meditation.
C
A
D
We
have
nobody
signed
up
to
speak,
but
we
did
have
One
online
comment
submitted.
Yeah
I
saw
that
yeah.
So
in
summary,
we
have
a
comment
by
Anthony
Bryant
of
Cortland
Avenue,
saying
according
to
Robert's
Rules,
the
mayor
of
the
City
of
Charleston
can
interrupt
speakers
to
get
information
about
a
point
of
information
about
the
rules
on
last
city
council
meeting
after
making
public
comment
regarding
the
redistricting
plan
regarding
the
2020
census.
D
If
the
City
of
Charleston
claims
tourism
creates
10
billion
dollars
in
Revenue,
why
can't
the
City
of
Charleston
tax
and
fees
that
money
to
apply
to
the
planning,
programming
and
budgeting
systems
to
meet
cost
of
living
for
all
citizens
within
the
City
of
Charleston
to
mitigate
the
impacts
of
so-called
growth?
And
that's
the
only
comment
that
we
had.
A
F
Christopher,
yes,
sir
Mr
chairman,
Chloe,
stuber
and
I
are
here
on
this
issue.
You
all
have
the
ordinance
in
your
packages,
I
believe
yes
correct,
and
you
know
this
is
just
a
further
clarification
within
our
kind
of
convoluted
zoning
ordinance
that
we're
working
to
upgrade
and
we'll
have
upgraded
soon.
But
this
is
a
interim
solution
to
make
accessory
dwelling
units
a
little
bit
easier
to
achieve
in
our
various
zoning
districts.
A
F
B
B
Rear
setbacks,
there's
an
exception
to
that.
If
the
accessory
unit
structure
is
600
square
feet
smaller
than
600
square
feet,
the
footprint,
then
it
can
I
think
go
within
three
feet:
set
setbacks.
I
can
utilize
three
feet
set
back,
so
it
has
to
have
that
smaller
footprint
and
currently
it
can
only
go
up
to
one
and
a
half
stories
which
would
prohibit
anything
like
a
garage
apartment,
which
is
a
really
common
style
for
accessory
dwelling
units.
A
A
E
Sir
good
afternoon,
councilmember,
Mitchell
and
members
of
council
a
few
months
ago,
we
presented
a
PowerPoint
presentation
to
you
regarding
the
108
Loan
Fund
tool,
and
it
is
just
that
a
tool
by
which
we
can
build
or
construct
affordable
and
Workforce
housing
or
attainable
housing
as
well
as
acquire
housing.
And
so
what
we
wanted
to
do
this
afternoon
is
bring
back
to
you.
What
we
are
proposing
to
do
should
we
approve
or
should
Council,
approve
us
seeking
approval
of
this
108
loan
application
Patrick.
E
Can
you
put
up
that
one
slide
that
I
gave
you
basically
council
members?
We
can
borrow
4
million
in
two
hundred
and
eighteen
thousand
dollars
under
the
108
loan,
based
on
our
annual
allocation
of
City
BG
dollars.
Our
goal
would
be
to
utilize
these
dollars
to
construct
10
Town
Homes
at
1555,
Juniper
Street,
my
staff
and
I
have
worked
with
Bello
and
Garris
local
Architects
to
actually
design
the
units
and
have
basically
what
they
call
a
shovel
ready
project.
E
A
few
months
ago,
we
sent
out
a
bid
to
through
our
procurement
office
to
secure
a
contractor
to
build
these
units
and
that
bid
came
back
at
3
million.
Eight
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
actually
a
little
bit
over
that.
So
we
are
going
to
rebid
this
in
the
first
quarter
of
2023.
But
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
continue
to
pursue
funding
and
in
order
to
facilitate
this
development
happening.
Part
of
the
requirements
or
the
requirements
for
the
108
loan
are
as
located
or
Illustrated
on
the
screen.
That
is
before
you.
E
It's
the
full
faith
and
credit
of
the
City
of
Charleston,
the
pledge
of
current
and
future
Community
Development
block,
grant
funding
and
then
a
lien
on
the
property
owned
by
the
City
of
Charleston.
In
our
discussions
with
our
Budget
Finance
and
revenue
collections
leadership,
they
would
prefer
to
stay
away
from
the
full
faith
and
credit
of
the
City
of
Charleston.
So
the
goal
would
be
is
that
we
would
pledge
our
future
a
portion
of
our
cdbg
dollars
towards
the
repayment
of
this
loan.
E
E
I
would
say
to
you
such
that
you're
aware
and
borrowing
this
level
of
funding
we're
looking
at
a
possibly
a
15-year
term,
and
those
payments
would
be
two
hundred
and
eighty
one
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
and
our
goal
would
be
to
utilize
a
portion
of
the
proceeds
from
the
sales
of
the
homes,
as
well
as
allocate
a
portion
of
our
cdbg
dollars
towards
ensuring
that
this.
This
loan
is
paid
back
or
repaid
to
the
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban.
Development
I
can
answer
any
questions.
Councilmember
Mitchell.
A
C
G
E
Sir,
and
then
we
also
instituted
one
I,
don't
know,
maybe
seven
plus
years
ago,
when
we
started
with
the
first
time
home
ownership
initiative,
we
had
a
one
1.5
million
108
loan
that
we
paid
back
Steve
Bedard
Bob
Miracle
were
the
CFO
and
assistant
CFO
at
the
time
so
we've
had.
This
would
literally
be
the
third
108
loan
that
we
would
use
for
a
said
purpose
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
Okay,.
G
E
Sir
241
is
the
estimated
payment
amount
that
we
came
up
with.
We
have
to
confirm
that
with
the
Department
of
Hud,
so
my
goal
is
to
get
feedback
from
you
all
today
submit
a
Draft
application
to
the
Department
of
Hud
for
them
to
review
once
they've
reviewed
it
bring
back
the
full
application
to
city
council,
and
then
we
move
forward
with
submitting
that
after
that
time.
So.
G
E
E
So
we
get
approximately
890
860,
so
we
would
have
a
little
over
600
000
to
allocate.
That
does
not
include,
of
course,
the
fact
that
we
also
have
approximately
200
a
little
over
200
000
each
year
in
program
income,
so
we
would
still
literally
be
at
our
same
allocation
level
because
we
do
have
program
income
that
comes
in
on
an
annual
basis.
Okay,.
I
G
G
E
This
is
true.
Hopefully
we
would
have
paid
a
substantial
amount
of
it
back
by
then
I
know.
In
the
with
the
most
recent
or
the
last
108
loan,
we
paid
it
back
early
Advanced
payments
in
order
to
ensure
that
the
the
loan
was
taken
care
of
appropriately
and
we've
seen
council
member
fluctuations
in
the
cdbg
allocation,
more
reductions
than
increases,
but
basically
really
based
on
what
we've
seen
over
the
last
10
years.
This
868.90
is
the
average.
If
you
will
of
the
allocation
that
we
will
receive
and
continue
to
proceed
and.
G
This
may
not
be
a
question
for
you,
but
maybe
it's
a
question
for
the
mayor.
Are
we
lobbying
Congress
at
all
to
stop
this
reduction
in
cdbg
I
can
remember
mayor
Riley,
going
up
and
actually
testifying
before
Congress
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we
save
as
much
as
cdbg
as
possible?
Are
there
any
national
efforts,
local
state
efforts
to
try
to
go
to
Congress,
to
try
to
restore
the
cdbg
program,
which
is
the
most
flexible
program?
I?
Think
we
have
in
the
federal
government.
J
J
J
G
J
A
G
I
I
I
think
I
think
that's
correct,
which
would
which
would
apply
to
me
that
the
current
Administration
is
open
is
probably
looking
more
favorably
on
this
program.
That
may
have
happened
in
in
in
the
past
and
and
I
do
think.
The
conference
of
Mayors
would
really
advocating
that
the
cdbg
formula
or
definitions
be
used
to
define
the
city's
con.
The
city's
allocation
under
Opera,
but
we
can.
We
can
check
on
that.
Councilman
Gregory
in
in
ironically,
a
lobbyist
is
in
town
tomorrow
and
I'm
meeting
with
him.
G
I
I
I'm
with
you
in
terms
of
of
the
formula
and
and
and
and
and
things
are
different
in
this
city
than
they
were
15
years
ago.
I
mean
a
part
of
what's
going
on.
Is
that
we
are.
We
are
raising
things
to
a
point
where
we,
the
form
the
formulas
now
works
against
us
right
and
I.
Just
don't
know
what
we
could
do
to
make
sure
that
that
formula
does
not
sort
of
deny
us
the
ability
to
consider
to
continue
to
build
our
affordability
inventory.
But
that's
for
another
discussion.
G
A
A
Okay,
exactly
that
I
would
ask
the
mayor
to
to
seek
into
that,
even
with
our
lobbyists
to
see
what
else
we
can
do
to
even
to
bring
that
up
to
the
table
that
we
can
access
more
if
they
can
do
something
pertaining
to
the
CBG
money,
and
maybe
maybe
something
might
you
know,
come
out
of
it.
You
know.
If
you
don't
see
anything,
then
nothing
is
going
to
be
done.
A
So
if
it's
pushing
from
the
the
mayor's
Council
I
think
we
can
something
might
come
more,
that
you
might
see
it
a
little
differently,
since
all
these
things
are
happening
now
and
all
but
the
couple
of
covert
and
everything
else.
So
maybe
this
is
something
that
we
probably
need
to
kind
of
to
work
on
so
I'm.
Actually,
the
mayor
and
the
staff
there's
the
staff
to
go
and
seek
into
it
even
with
our
lobbyists.
Yes,.
A
G
Okay
and
have
we
collected
any
of
those
dollars
that
we
could
use
to
sort
of
buttress
our
limited
resources
for
affordable,
affordable
housing?
And
if
we
are
not
collecting
those
dollars,
then
someone
is
in
violation
of
an
ordinance
and
that
we
should
be
enforcing
it
accordingly,
because
I
think
there
are
resources
that
are
we
getting
any
money
from
that.
E
G
And
why
I'm
bringing
it
up
is
you
know,
as
we
go
for
108
we've
got
to
find
out
where
there
are
resources
that
we
should
legitimately
be
getting
that
we're
not
getting
and
I.
Think
Council
was
very
clear
that
a
fee
and
Lua
should
be
tied
to
hotel
construction
and
and
if
we're
not
getting
those
dollars,
this
should
be
a
considerable
amount
of
dollars
out
there
that
we
need
to
be
collecting
to
help
our
community
development
office.
Do
what
they're
supposed
to
do
so.
E
A
A
A
E
Council,
member
Mitchell
I
don't
see
council
member
wearing,
but
he
did
ask
us
after
the
last
City
Committee
of
city
council
meeting,
to
bring
to
you
all
the
consideration
of
the
Esau
Jenkins,
affordable
housing
development
that
is
occurring
on
John's
Island
and
Leon
Burton.
Who
is
the
executive
director
for
the
Sea
Island
Development
Corporation
and
Ray
Nix?
Who
is
his
consultant
working
with
him
on
this
development
or
on
the
zoom
meeting?
So
I
will
ask
Leon
you
or
Ray
to
maybe
speak
to
the
project.
E
G
If
I
may,
since
council
member
wearing
may
not
be
an
on
the
call
I
thought
that
the
bottom
line
was
that
there
are
some
Gap
financing
that
this
project
needs
and
this
project
will
be
providing
permanent,
affordable
housing
and
I.
Think
we're
talking
about
something
like
1.4
1.5
million,
maybe
1.7,
mil
and
I
thought
that
the
question
was
whether
or
not
we
can
find
that
Gap
financing
to
develop
permanent,
affordable
housing
on
the
island.
Now
I
go
back
to
I.
Go
back
to
my
initial
thought.
G
With
respect
to
C
in
lieu
of
okay,
of
which
I
know,
we
don't
have
any
any
money
in
that
right
now,
but
my
argument
is,
we
may
have
enough
money
and
the
fee
and
lieu
of
as
it
relates
to
hotels,
to
at
least
assist
this
project.
I
mean
very
rarely.
Do
we
have
the
opportunity
to
fund
affordable
housing
that
will
be
permanent,
affordable
housing,
so
with
that
I
mean
I.
Think
that
that's
you
know
what
what
councilman
wearing
would
articulate.
G
K
Good
afternoon
good
afternoon,
Mr
chairman
good
afternoon,
council
members
mayor
and
the
staff,
my
name
is
Leon
Burton
I'm,
with
Sea
Island,
comprehensive,
Healthcare
Corporation,
as
administrator
as
you
know,
see.
Allen
has
been
one
of
the
projects
that
has
been
a
pioneer
of
affordable
housing
for
the
last
40
years.
K
So
we've
been
in
business
for
quite
some
time
and
approximately
three
years
ago,
Sea
Island
Healthcare
Corporation
was
the
initial
focus
on
trying
to
develop
an
additional
Florida
housing
on
approximately
2.7
Acres
on
our
nine
acres,
Nine
Acre
campus
here
at
the
housing
at
the
Seattle
Seattle
comprehensive
complex.
We
currently
have
a
nursing
home.
We
currently
have
an
administrative
building
on
that
complex.
K
K
L
Good
afternoon,
mayor
and
members
of
council,
and
especially
City
staff,
just
a
quick
shout
out
if
I
can
I
just
want
to
thank
Miss
Johnson
and
her
team
they've
been
incredibly
supportive
to
this
project
and
to
our
our
partnership,
and
you
know
in
the
many
cities
that
I
work
in
you
know.
This
is
to
me
a
model
of
of
what
a
public-private
partnership
should
be
about.
So
just
wanted
to.
L
Thank
you,
and
you
know,
Leon
gave
you
obviously
the
history
and
the
Genesis
of
of
how
the
project
came
to
light.
You
know
this
is
no
different
than
any
other
project.
That's
that's
involving
mixed
finance
and
mixed
layers.
You
know
it's
very
challenging
and
complicated
and
usually
doesn't
happen
overnight,
but
we
have
made
incredible
strides.
L
You
know
in
the
face
of
covid
in
the
face
of
increased
cost
and
construction,
you
know
in
the
face
of
interest
rates,
as
you
know,
you
know,
and
issues
with
supply
chain
materials.
You
know,
and
we've
gone
from,
having
a
balanced
budget
and
the
ability
to
actually
move
forward
to
being
hit
with
these
repeated
incidents
which
has
caused
us
to
have
the
Gap
that
that
Leon
discussed
earlier.
L
Just
a
couple
of
things
to
note
you
know
of
the
72
units,
you
know
we're
talking
about
two
mid-rise
buildings
with
a
separate
detached
resident
amenity,
Center
there'll,
be
a
fitness
center,
open
open
for
plans
with
modern
finishes
and
new
washer
and
dryers
energy
efficient.
All
of
the
modern
amenities,
but
at
an
affordable
cost,
I
mean
this
is
going
to
be
for
elderly
seniors
that
are
independent.
L
This
is
not
an
assisted
living
facility
and
there'll
be
a
combination
of
both
one
and
two
bedroom
mixes
and
as
council
member
Dudley
said
earlier,
this
is,
you
know,
affordable
housing
in
perpetuity.
We
are
extremely.
You
know
proud
about
that.
The
structure
of
the
finance
is
it's:
a
four
percent
lightec
deal
with
tax-exempt,
Bond
financing
and
we
just
came
after
the
state
had
instituted
the
newly
state
tax
credits.
L
You
know
we
received
approval
from
South
Carolina
for
the
tax
credits
in
2020
and
approval
from
the
Charleston
housing
authority
to
serve
as
the
local
issuer
of
the
taxes
and
bonds.
The
permanent
financing
is
going
to
come
through
the
HUD
221
D4
product.
We
chose
that
because
it
has
a
40-year
term,
but
it
also
provided,
for
you,
know
the
HUD,
insurance
and
and
more
aggressive
interest
rates,
at
least
at
the
time
they
were
more
aggressive
and
the
equity
syndication
through
both
the
federal
and
the
state.
L
Tax
credits
is
going
to
evolve
from
PNC.
You
know
one
thing
to
note
that
the
when
I
talk
about
public-private
Partnerships
we're
extremely
excited
about
the
relationship
that
we've
developed
over
these
past
three
years
with
your
team
at
the
Housing
Authority
they've
agreed
early
on
and
now
we're
going
through
the
final
stages
of
Hud,
of
getting
approval
for
project-based
vouchers
to
provide
for
rental
assistance
and
the
affordability
which,
as
you
know,
helps
us
reach
a
deeper
level
of
affordability
within
the
housing.
L
So
you
know
kind
of
where
we
are
now
is
that
the
development
team,
in
order
to
get
to
the
two
million
dollar
Gap
we
deferred
up
to
50
of
our
developer
fee,
which
is
the
maximum
that's
allowed
by
SC
housing,
Sea
Island
and
the
board
has
been
gracious
enough
to
forego
some
of
the
upfront
payment
for
acquisition
costs
and
put
that
in
the
form
of
a
subordinate.
Take
back
note.
We
know
that
we're.
L
You
know
we
don't
want
to
be
in
a
position
where
we've
got
a
gap,
but
the
reality
is.
Is
that
where
we
are
right
now,
squared
away,
is
you
know
we
have
a
gap
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions?
Talk
about
any
challenges,
any
innovative
ideas,
but
again
I
do
want
to
thank
you
and
the
City
of
Charleston
for
at
least
being
open
to
having
this
conversation
very
helpful.
G
L
No
sir,
you
may
be
thinking
of
the
202.
Well,
let
me
back
up.
Let
me
answer
your
question.
It
is
not
the
the
221
D4
program,
the
HUD
insured.
It
serves
as
a
40-year
loan
and
it
you
know
it
only
provides
for
a
portion
of
the
capital
stack
in
our
situation.
Our
Capital
stack
is
22
million
and
the
221
D4
loan
is
about
8.7
ooh.
L
L
L
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
so.
I
mean
we,
we
HUD
has
been
gracious
enough
to
so
we
originally
were
approved
by
the
we.
Our
subsidy
Land
review,
as
you
know,
was
approved
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
but
we
were
a
2020
application
to
the
state.
So
we
had
20
20
rents
now
we're
in
2022
looking
to
place
in
service
in
2024.
L
G
A
J
J
Oh,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
Mr
councilmember,
so
councilmember
Gregory
I've
already
sent
off
a
message
and
we'll
get
a
report
back,
but
that
that
fee
hadn't
been
in
in
in
effect
so
long
and
believe
it
or
not.
Even
though
the
per
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
hotels
have
been
built
since
that
time,
they're
not
a
lot,
but
we
will
find
out
we'll
find
out
exactly
how
many
dollars
we
we
have
due
to
us
from
that
I
I
would
just
ask
Mr
Burke
and
Mr
Nix.
J
L
Leon
you
want
me
to
jump
in
yes
right,
okay,
so
I'll
I'll
answer
those
questions.
Mr
Mayor
in
Reverse
last
Friday
we
did
submit
a
application
to
Charleston
County's
Gap
financing
nofa
for
the
full
two
million
dollars.
You
know
it's
pending,
obviously
underwriting
and
it's
a
competitive
application,
so
I'm
sure
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
have
submitted
as
well.
L
L
I
I
will
say
that
for
because
this
unique
structure
with
the
tax
credits
it
all,
it
has
to
be
alone,
interestingly
enough,
but
we
would
prefer
it
be.
A
cash
flow
loan
as
opposed
to
a
must
pay
loan,
and
the
difference
is
is
that
a
cash
flow
loan
will
become
subordinate
to
what
the
property
Act
actually
how
it
actually
performs,
as
opposed
to
something
that
impacts
dead
service
and
because
the
development
team
is
willing
to
take
a
haircut
and
defer
50
of
our
fee
to
operations.
L
L
For
example,
if
the
City
of
Charleston
found
their
way
would
come
in
behind
the
Deferred
fee
payment
as
to
not
impact
negatively
the
tax
credits,
and
it
would
be
cash
flow
only
so
in
many
cities
we
have
loans,
like
that,
where
you
know
where
the
city
will
say,
look
we're
going
to
take
50
percent
of
any
net
cash
flow
after
your
deferred
fees
paid
or
at
75,
or
it's
30
percent.
It
just
depends.
L
J
L
I
J
H
H
L
L
Unfortunately,
in
a
a
lot
in
a
low
income,
housing
tax-
credit
program-
you
don't
refinance
until
the
tax
credit
period
has
been
completed,
which
is
15
years.
So
at
the
end
of
15
years,
then
you
could
go
back
to
SC,
housing
and
and
Leon
can
make
application
to
make
all
the
modern
updates
and
improvements
and
put
new
tax
credit
equity
on
the
property.
But
it's
not
a
conventional
financing
approach
where
you
can
refine
three
or
five
and
you
know,
retire
the
debt
and
put
on
new
debt.
L
J
K
L
So
what
they
do
in
this
situation
is,
is
that
you
know
the
depending
on
you
know
the
exact
mission
of
the
municipality
they'll
make
it
a
you
know:
a
cash
flow,
only
loan
that
balloons
in
40.
it
runs
with
whatever
the
longest
term
of
the
perm
debt
would
be
and
for
us
would
be
40
years.
It's
you
know,
it's
simple
interest.
Non-Compounding.
H
L
J
L
J
H
Wearing
thank
you.
Mr
chairman,
you
know:
Ms
Anna,
Johnson,
Mr
Mayor
was
heading
up
the
affordable
housing
piece
for
the
county.
Did
you
know
Miss
Johnson
did
win
re-election
right.
The
the
private
sector
committee
that
they
put
together
about
three
weeks
to
a
month
ago
was
basically
put
on
hold.
They
had
communication
problems
between
the
affordable
housing
committee,
which
was
I,
thought
a
pretty
good
committee
that
they
put
together.
They
had
communication
problem
between
that
committee
that
the
county
put
in
place
and
actual
County
council
members.
H
So
from
a
communication
standpoint
right
now,
I,
don't
know
how
proficient
the
structure
that
the
county
has
put
in
place.
It'd
be
great
if
you
can
find
this
out
in
30
days,
but
this
was
a.
This
is
part
of
a
putt
that
frankly
helped
to
resurrect
Sea
Island
some
years
ago
that
the
city
approved,
which
eventually
led
to
the
same
part
that
we
talked
about
with
it's
a
low
country,
open
Land
Trust.
H
Out
of
that
1.2
billion
dollar
half
cent
sales
tax
was
supposed
to
go
to
save
the
Angel
Oak
Tree.
Well,
when
the
money,
when
the
referendum
passed
and
the
money
went
to
Green
Space
the
last
place,
the
money
went
was
towards
saving
the
ancient
world
tree.
The
second
round
of
Green
Space
money,
which
you
offered
me
with,
which
was
what
four
years
ago,
something
like
that.
H
L
H
And
if
you
look
at
the
44
units,
Mr
Mill
that
Humanities
Foundation
had
an
accommodating
price
to
sell
to
the
City
of
Charleston.
What
was
it
just
before
covet
Ms
Johnson
that
the
city
bought
I,
think
for
four
million
or
so
from
Humanities
Foundation?
It
was
Sea
Island
that
sold
that
piece
of
land
to
Humanities
Foundation
to
build
those
44
units
years
ago.
H
So
when
it
comes
to
being
a
Starwood
and
a
stakeholder
and
creating
affordable
housing
on
John's
Island,
there
has
been
no
leaders
very
strong
or
better
history
than
Seattle
even
to
the
day.
50
years
later,
they
got
what
88
units
of
affordable
housing.
No
one
else
on
John's
out
has
488
units
of
affordable
housing
on
John's
out
and
you're.
Looking
at
trying
to
go
forward
and
create
how
many
units
70
71
72.
How.
H
H
1981.,
that's
on
nine
acres
of
land.
Today,
let's
just
sit
at
nine
acres,
we're
we're
not
built
upon.
You
would
put
certainly
more
than
nine
acres
I
mean
88
units
09
Acres.
So
in
building
these
72
units
it
gives
the
flexibility
of
potentially
having
some
of
those
folks
and
88
units
come
over
into
the
new.
H
On
on
sea
Islands
matter
of
fact,
we
very
rarely
councilmember
Ross
Appel
Amanda
putt.
You
know
when
we
do
a
putt,
usually
some
custom
zoning.
You
agree
to
that.
We
actually
came
back,
we
as
a
city
in
a
minute
then,
but
where
these
properties
are
actually
going,
it
was
zoned
for
medical
office
open
to
attract
private
doctors
who
come
to
John's,
Allen
and
service
part
of
the
geriatric
population.
That's
in
the
nursing
home
that
for
10
years
didn't
material.
H
H
H
H
H
That's
the
organization
that
takes
care
of
indigent
people
and
people
in
general
from
newborn
all
the
way
to
senior
care
and
everything
in
between
and
I.
Never
he
said.
Normally
you
have
to
go
to
multiple
agencies
to
get
that
service.
You
know
the
health
care
clinic,
you
know
on
the
site.
Obviously
they
got
child
prenatal
care
and
all
that
out
of
there.
Okay,
with
the
senior
care
activities,
I,
never
realized
that
to
try
to
recreate
and
obviously
the
affordable
housing
initiatives
over
there.
H
You
have
so
many
Services
Under
One
Umbrella,
and
they
do
so
much
with
so
little.
Thank
you.
So,
as
a
volunteer
years
and
years
ago,
I
guess
McKinley,
Reverend
Washington
taught
me
about
the
goodness
that
this
organization
puts
back
into
community
in
particular
to
those
who
are
far
less
fortunate
than
we
are
so
I
wish.
The
county
can
turn
fast
on
that,
but
I'm,
not
I,
don't
have
a
lot
of
Hope
on
that
one.
A
J
Chairman
I
I
just
want
to
reiter
reiterate
our
100
support
for
Sea
Island
and
their
mission,
as
outlined
by
councilmember
Waring.
While
we've
been
talking
I've
been
on
the
email
and
I
do
believe
Mr
Nix,
even
though
they
hadn't
replied
to
you,
yet
that
there
are
still
some
loan
funds
available
at
the
climb
fund
that
we
helped
them
Pro
secure.
So
so
we
do
have
some
influence
with
that.
J
We
will
be
in
touch
with
them
Pronto
and
see
if
we
can
get
a
reply
from
them
on
that
and
and
we
are
committed
to
helping
you
get
over
the
hump,
it's
I
I,
just
I
hope.
You
understand.
We
made
a
lot
of
commitments
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and
every
dollar
matters
to
us
too,
but
we're
going
to
help
you
get
there
and
between
the
climb
fund
and
the
county
and
the
City
of
Charleston
we're
going
to
get
you
to
fill
this
Gap.
H
L
L
the
we
have
to
go
back
before
the
state
to
get
final
approval
on
our
bond
financing.
Most
likely,
we
would
be
on
the
February
calendar
date
which
require
us
to
submit
our
package
to
them
about
maybe
the
beginning
of
January,
maybe
the
second
week
of
January
I
think
they
need
20
something
days
so
at
a
minimum.
What
we
would
need
is
a
strong
commitment
with
blue
ink
and
then
try
to
figure
out
the
details.
While
we
get
everything
pushing
through
the
state,
but
you
know
we
would
have
to
go.
L
H
L
Yeah
well,
our
goal
would
be
to
try
to
get
on
the
February
sfaa
agenda
meeting
and
they
need
about.
They
need
close
to
20
to
25
days
of
their
the
Pat.
The
due
diligence
submitted
prior
to
to
get
on
that
agenda,
so
I
think
it's
fair,
we're
out
to
look
it
up,
but
the
goal
is
to
close
second
quarter
of
2023..
Okay,
so.
H
H
L
A
H
A
I'm
a
section,
the
mayor,
if
you
could
reach
out
to
the
client's
funding,
we
can
try
to
see
whatever
we
can
do
in
the
meantime
and
try
to
assist,
and
even
if
you
have
to
call
some
people
at
the
county
to
see
if
they
can
kind
of
piss
things
along
the
way,
I'll
try
to
make
some
calls
to
some
of
the
people
in
the
county
that
I
know
of
and
talk
with
them
and
see.
If
this
can
be,
if
they
can
move
this
along
too,
and
we
have
to
do
it
like
quickly.
H
Don't
know
if
we
have
anything
in
fee
and
Lou
I'll
be
right
with
you
and
fee
and
Lou
and
I
don't
know
what
we
have
in
the
real
estate
fund
and
we
also
can
look
into
the
real
estate
fund
with
the
city's
job,
not
asking
for
those
answers
today,
but
I
think
it'll
be
good
in
addition
to
climb
in
the
county.
If
we
knew
all
potential
sources
try
to
make
an
hour
decision.
A
H
E
Yes,
sir
council,
member
myself,
what
I
wanted
support
from
from
the
city
committee
is.
This
is
a
technical
assistance
request
to
the
Harvard
Kennedy
School
government's
performance,
lab
for
the
homelessness
prevention
and
rehousing
accelerator.
You
all
have
this
information
in
your
packet
and
we
want
to
pursue
item
or
topic
number
three.
E
That
Collective
would
allow
for
incentives
to
be
paid
to
landlords
in
order
to
facilitate
their
commitment
of
housing
to
these
populations.
And
so
we
want
to
basically
submit
for
this
ta
request,
because
we
believe
that
these
folks
can
help
us
finalize
what
we've
started
and
been
working
on
over
the
last
year
and
a
half.
And
again.
E
E
Yes,
sir,
okay
and
I
would
just
add
councilmember
Gregory.
Thank
you
for
asking
that
we
also
the
others
that
would
follow
would
be
topic
four
and
five.
We
have
to
have
an
initial
one,
and
then
we
can
follow
with
two
others,
but
because
we've
been
working
on
this
rental
effort
with
the
Continuum
and
180,
we
thought
that
made
most
sense
to
get
us
moving
in
the
right
direction.
A
A
All
right
three:
this
is
approval
of
the
memorandum
of
understanding
between
the
South
Carolina
commission,
the
modern
military
Affairs
and
the
City
of
Charleston
mwbe
offers
to
work
in
Partnership
to
promote
and
disassemming
commission
information
and
resources
to
increase
the
number
of
SC
minority.
Small
businesses
that
do
businesses
with
the
City
of
Charleston
no.
G
A
A
J
C
We
do
a
lot
of
resource
training,
we'll
be
able
they'll
be
able
to
promote
our
resource.
Business
Development
training
they'll
also
be
able
to
promote
any
contractual
opportunities
on
a
Statewide
level
here
in
the
city,
as
well
as
we
promoting
what
we
have
here
in
terms
of
Contracting
throughout
the
entire
state.
So
the
bottom
line
is
increasing
minority
participation
in
and
around
Contracting
and
business
opportunities.
So
thank
you
for
allowing
me
a
two
a
couple
seconds
to
talk
council
member
Mitchell.
C
M
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
Miss
Jordan,
for
that
I
just
want
to
share
with
you.
We've
got
our
heart
commission
meeting
at
five,
so
I'll
make
sure
that
I
mention
that
to
our
commission
members,
because
that
aligns
quite
quite
well
with
the
work
that
we're
trying
to
get
done
on
on
the
commission.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
C
A
Now
we
go
to
I-4.
I
I
before
that's
a
resolution
requesting
that
the
gov
that
Governor
McMasters
in
the
state,
Housing
Finance
and
Redevelopment
Authority
Amanda
2023
qualified
allocation
plan
to
strike
the
provision
that
affordable
housing
development
in
urban
communities
within
one
mile
of
each
other
be
exempt
from
receiving
funding
from
the
low
low
income
housing
tax.
M
G
N
J
G
J
J
J
You
know
across
the
street
councilman
we're
wearing
is,
is
at
a
Parks
Department
property
that
we
own
and
then
the
the
Cog
owns
the
property
we
sold
them.
Where
the
station
is
going
to
be,
they
could
possibly
put
some
housing
on
top
of
the
station
and
then
across
the
street.
It's
a
Joseph
Floyd
Manor.
So
not
only
are
they
within
a
mile
within
a
mile,
they're
literally
three
properties,
almost
adjacent
to
one
other,
and
it's
good
public
policy
to
to
try
to
put
affordability
near
that
Transit.
Stop
right!
That's
what
we've
all
been
saying!
G
J
It
could
be
an
exception,
but
I
also
pointed
out
to
him
councilmember
that
most
of
at
least
most
of
the
developments
that
we've
been
doing
lately
have
a
mixture
of
percentages.
Anyway,
it's
not
all
below
30
percent.
You
know
you
have
some
30
and
some
60,
and
some
hundred
so
I
I
made
the
case
to
him
that
that
argument
about
concentration
really
is
different
in
today's
world,
where
you
have
all
these
developments
and
people
are
mixing
it
up
a
little
bit.
J
A
A
M
I
guess
my
question
ultimately
is:
is
it
possible
just
to
get
with
them
to
get
the
Mr
Broadway
and
basically
look
at
our
assets,
land
and
look
at
their
assets,
buildings
and
land
and
see
if
there's
any
overlap
anywhere
for
a
potential
partnership
seems
like
they're,
they're,
they're
interested,
which
is
probably
a
change
over
the
past
year.
So
I
think
they
are
interested
I'm
just
asking
if
we've
had
a
formal,
a
meeting
with
them
just
to
look
at
our
assets
and
their
their
assets
to
see
if
there's
opportunity.
J
G
J
That
was
a
little
different
deal,
but
yeah
the
concept
was
the
same:
yeah
hey
did
y'all
see,
I,
don't
mean
to
go
off
the
reservation
here,
but
I
saw
in
the
paper
and
admittedly
they're,
a
financial
Powerhouse
500
pound
gorilla,
but
there
was
a
little
article
that
the
Disney
company
had
contracted
with
Michael's
company,
who
we
know
to
do
a
1300
unit.
Development
of
affordable
housing.
J
Acres
for
their
employees,
yes,
and
for
the
public
but
I
I,
don't
know
if
there's
like
a
percentage
to
their
employees,
so
I
think
you
know.
Private
employers
are
going
to
have
to
follow
that
lead
more
and
more
and
get
into
the
thinking
of
providing
some
housing
I
mean,
maybe
on
all
of
the
campus
that
Boeing's
bought
up
there
they'll
they
they
could
allocate
some
of
it
to
build
some
housing.
Just
for
an
example.
N
J
It
depends
on
how
much
you
earn
so
the
whole
HUD
formula
or
premise
is
that
folks
shouldn't
be
paying
more
than
30
percent
of
their
income
on
their
housing
costs.
So
it's
a
sliding
scale
based
upon
how
much
an
individual
earns.
If
you
earn
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
you
shouldn't
be
paying
more
than
thirty
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
housing
costs.
If
you
earn
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year,
you
should
be
at
fifteen
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
your
housing
costs.
That's
it's
a
sliding
scale.
N
E
E
Naturally,
more
recently,
we've
seen
higher
numbers
and
when
we
see
those
higher
numbers,
councilman
Parker,
it
simply
means
that
we
will
have
to
also
subsidize
or
provide
additional
funding
to
ensure
that
the
price
that
the
person
has
to
mortgage
come
down,
because
the
average
median
prices
for
housing
on
the
peninsula,
for,
inter
for
in,
for
instance,
as
well
over
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
But
with
programs
such
as
ours.
We're
able
to
offer
those
Homes
at
our
at
a
great
deal
less
than
what
the
average
meeting
house
price
is.
N
E
So
we
don't
build
anything
for
500.,
that's
well
over
what
our
clients
can
afford.
We
attempt
to
keep
anything
we
build
in
the
two
lower
than
the
300
000
range
recently.
Those
numbers
have
crept
up
a
little
because
of
our
Market,
but
again
when
we
even
see
them
at
the
300
level,
clients
are
bringing
funding
to
the
table,
we're
targeting
or
assisting
persons
at
the
120,
Ami
level
and
I'm
glad
to
send
you
a
chart.
E
N
G
I
E
That's
correct
council,
member
Gregory,
it's
so
that
HUD
says
affordable
as
80
and
Below.
We
are
considered
a
neighborhood
revitalization
strategy
area,
and
so
we
naturally
go
up
to
120
percent
because
we
learned
many
years
ago
that
there
was
also
a
gap
for
persons
in
that
income
range.
And
so
we
continue
to
do
that
to
this
day.
M
E
E
E
Now
I
was
just
gonna
say
to
the
mayor
and
council
member
Mitchell
I
did
an
email
introduction
to
Jeff
boroughly
from
the
school
district
to
Milton
Pratt,
who
is
one
of
the
Executive
Vice
Presidents
of
the
Michaels
company
this
week,
just
as
a
way
to
introduce
them
to
entities
that
are
actually
involved
in
developing
teacher
housing.
Student
housing,
affordable
housing
across
the
United
States.
G
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
If
I
may
I
mean
I
mean
this
really
goes
back
to
something
we
talked
about
a
while
back,
and
that
is
having
a
a
linkage,
a
housing
linkage
to
all
development
and
it
gets
at
the
person's
employing
people,
the
teachers,
everything
and
I
still
think.
That's
something
that
we
need
to
start
exploring
as
a
city,
I,
don't
know
legally
what
we
can
do,
but
I
just
think
that
we
have
a
housing
linkage
to
all
developments.
It
will
in
fact
help
us
increase
our
inventory
of
affordable
housing,
Mr.
A
J
So,
thank
you,
since
I
have
the
information
already
Mr
chairman.
If
you
don't
mind,
I'll
report
very
quickly
back
on
the
hotel
issue,
that
ordinance
was
effective,
October
8th
of
2019
about
two
years
ago.
The
fee
is
five
dollars
and
10
cent
per
square
foot
of
the
area
used
for
sleeping
units
and
the
hallways
adjacent
thereof.
J
It's
payable
prior
to
the
co
being
issued
the
certificate
of
occupancy
so
but
it
was
for
everything
going
forward
from
that
date.
Five
hotels
have
been
approved
since
that
date,
none
have
gotten
their
Co.
Yet
so
it's
not
that
we
hadn't
forgotten
to
Bill
anybody,
but
nobody's
qualified
gotten
their
CEO
and
had
to
pay
up
yet,
but.