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City of Charleston Community Development 4/21/22
A
Time
is
now,
I
think
it's
three
o'clock
a
little
after
three
I'd
like
to
call
the
community
development
committee
to
order
and
it's
customary
less
power
ahead
in
silence,
and
I
remember
people
in
ukraine
who's
having
so
many
problems,
who's
losing
a
lot
of
likes
over
there.
Let's
remember
them
in
our
prayers.
A
C
My
name
is
robert
lewis,
I'm
with
the
rogers
lewis
law
firm,
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
about
the
abandoned
building
certification
resolution
that
we're
seeking
for
11
and
a
half
st
phillips
street.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
proper
time
to
speak
or
not,
but
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
I'm
here.
If
there
are
any
questions
when
that
comes
up
all
right.
Thank
you.
A
A
E
Hello,
so
this
amended
ordinance
before
you
clarifies
the
affordability
requirement
on
accessory
dwelling
units
as
a
quick
refresher.
Currently,
there
are
affordability
restrictions
that
require
any
adu
that
is
rented
out
to
a
household
to
be
limited
to
those
at
or
below
80
of
the
area.
Median
income
there's
no
end
date
for
when
that
affordability
requirement
would
expire,
which
effectively
means
that
it
is
restricted
as
affordable
in
perpetuity
based
off
of
prior
discussion.
E
E
So
that
is
essentially
what
the
ordinance
does
provides.
Those
two
paths
and
a
couple
other
quick
items
to
note.
Since
our
last
meeting,
we
did
some
additional
research
to
see
if
we
could
learn
more
about
what
income
brackets
are
being
served
by
adus
rented
out
around
the
country
and
there's
been
limited
research
done
on
this
topic,
but
we
did
find
studies
completed
in
the
pacific
northwest
and
in
areas
throughout
california.
E
A
study
from
the
sacramento
area
council
of
governments
found
that
a
majority
of
adus
were
rented
to
low
and
moderate
income
households
with
rough
with
roughly
20
percent,
rented
to
those
at
the
extremely
low
and
very
low
income
categories.
And
then
another
study
from
the
southern
california
association
of
governments
showed
similar
results
to
sacramento's.
E
In
addition,
I'll
remind
everyone
that
housing
and
community
development
has
been
preparing
to
launch
a
pilot
program
to
support
the
development
of
affordable
adus
in
charleston,
and
we
have
reserved
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
support
approximately
10
households
with
their
construction
and
the
affordability.
Requirements
in
this
ordinance
would
apply
to
those
developments
and
any
others
in
the
future
that
receive
a
financial
subsidy.
E
F
F
E
E
E
30
is
is
typically
what
we
have
done
for
for
most
affordable
housing
developments
in
the
city.
It's
it's
so
that's
kind
of
the
standard.
So
that's
we
think
is
a
reason,
reasonable
time
period
for
a
homeowner.
Who
is
you
know
putting
their
own
capital
into
the
project
to
to
not
have
that
be
extended?
E
E
G
We've
had
a
number
a
great
deal
of
interest
in
the
adus.
The
challenge
that
we
encountered
and
that
folks
were
hesitant
on
is
first,
that
the
ordinance
initially
refer
to
us
having
the
adus
in
place
for
perpetuity
many
residents
that
called
and
interested
parties
that
called
did
not
want
to
do
perpetuity.
G
G
We
can
certainly
try
it,
but
what
we've
heard
and
seen
from
those
who've
made
inquiries
and
called
is
that
seems
longer
than
what
would
traditionally
or
to
typically
be
in
place,
and
so
that's
why
we
try
to
find
if
you
will
common
ground
relative
to
the
30
years
and
because
it
was
closely
associated
with
what
homeowners
typically
see
in
a
mortgage
that
they
have
on
their
primary
residence.
So.
F
G
G
That
would
would
certainly
delay
the
construction
of
these,
and
so
that's
why
we
wanted
to
utilize
our
unrestricted
funding,
but
that
funding
is
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
wiggle
room
there
and
we
will
bring
to
you
at
the
next
meeting
of
the
cd
committee
of
city,
council
and
understanding
of
how
we
have
allocated
those
dollars
and
right
now
we
don't
have
a
great
deal
of
extra.
If
you
will
in
that
budget,.
F
I
mean,
and
generally
speaking,
though
I
mean
we're
going
to
have
to
find
money
for
your
department,
because
your
budget
is
slowly
becoming
depleted,
even
with
the
fee
in
lieu
of
I
mean
even
with
the
federal
subsidy
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
I
mean
it's
getting
to
the
point.
If
we
don't
identify
additional
resources
for
you
to
be
able
to
leverage
as
you
do,
okay,
it's
going
to
be
awful,
not
we've
got
to
find
additional
resources.
F
So
I
think
it
is
very,
very
important
for
this
body,
especially
the
community
development,
to
start
thinking
about
bonding
issues.
However,
we
can
to
try
to
keep
building
and
partnering
for
affordable
housing.
Otherwise,
I
think
that
our
housing
division
will
only
be
overseeing
existing
and
there'll,
be
very
little
new
stuff
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do,
and-
and
I
I
know
we're
remotely
folks-
but
this
is
a
very,
very
serious
issue
to
me,
especially
as
we
face
this
affordable
crisis.
A
Thank
you
for
that
councilman.
I
think
we
needed
to
look
at
that
very
seriously
and
looking
at
more
money
to
put
into
the
community
development
office,
and
I
think
this
was
a
long
time
coming.
We
we
should
have
been
doing
this
long
time
ago,
but
we
know
this
was
going
to
happen
sooner
or
later
when
things
come
down.
So
we
need
to
look
back
at
that
seriously
and
bring
more
money
into
the
community
development
office.
If
we
are
serious
about
affordable
housing,
I
think
councilman
pal
has
his
hands
up.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
just
want
to
say
I
support
this
ordinance
as
amended.
I
think
that
this
we
had
a
very
interesting
debate
about
adus
and
affordability
restrictions.
I
think
it
was
the
last
time
we
met
and
councilman
gregory
has
a
perspective.
I
have
a
perspective
on
it
if
you're
interested
in
that,
you
can
go
to
youtube
and
listen
to
it,
I'm
not
going
to
regurgitate
it,
but
the
current
ordinance
reflects
both
of
our
perspectives
and
I
think
that
that's
great
we
can.
H
We
can
try
both
approaches.
We
can.
We
can
try
the
more
free
market
approach,
as
you
may
want
to
refer
to
it,
and
you
can
also.
We
could
also
try
the
affordability
restrictions
city.
You
know,
partnership,
public-private
partnership
approach
and
you
know-
hopefully
they
both
work
in
their
own
ways
and
the
net
effect
is.
H
We
have
more
housing
units
that
are
available
on
the
peninsula
and
elsewhere
in
the
city
that
will
have
the
net
effect
of
driving
down
prices
and
allowing
more
and
more
regular
people
to
afford
living
in
the
city
of
charleston,
and
I
think
that's
what
this
ordinance
does.
Adus
are
not
going
to
solve
all
of
our
affordability
problems.
It's
not
a
one.
Size
fits
all
deal,
but
this
is
something
that
can
make
a
difference
and
move
the
needle
in
the
right
direction.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
ordinance
as
amended.
H
H
I
think
that
when
we
released
that
we
were
going
to
see
not
only
you
know
more
of
these
units
being
built,
but
actually
businesses
being
created
in
the
city
of
charleston
building
adus
managing
adus
marketing
ad.
You
know
the
whole
thing
I
mean
we're
helping
to
facilitate
an
entire
new.
You
know:
division
of
the
development
industry
here
in
charleston,
so
this
is
very
exciting.
H
A
Hey,
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
even
with
the
adu
that
we're
going
to
really
focus
on
affordability
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
trying
to
do
with
affordability,
with
people
living
in
this
peninsula
living
in
the
city
of
charleston,
and
that's
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
that
we
have.
We've
been
talking
about:
affordability
for
people
to
stay
in
this
peninsula,
that's
working
in
this
peninsula
and
don't
have
to
drive
it
and
coming
from
other
from
elsewhere.
A
D
Thank
you
chairman.
I'm
certainly
supportive
of
this.
I
think
the
dual
track
is
the
right
way
to
go.
The
question
I
have.
Maybe
this
is
putting
the
horse
before
the
card,
but
have
we
talked
to
county
council
or
anyone
over
at
tax
assessors
office
about?
I
think
councilman
waring
mentioned
this
last
time.
D
G
F
A
A
second
second,
okay:
it
was
proven,
second,
that
we
move
on
with
the
adus
that's
outlined
with
the
audience
that
was
before
us
all
in
favor
book
by
saying
aye,
aye
aye
opposed
this
nation
always
have
it
so
we'll
move
on
we're
going
to
the
second
part
of
the
agenda.
We
move
down
now
to
new
businesses.
The
first
on
the
new
business
is
update
on
the
homelessness
and
the
strategy.
It's
going
to
electronic
presentation
he's
using
this.
I
Hi
everybody.
Can
you
hear
me
okay,
so
my
name
is
emily
beck.
I'm
the
community
liaison
and
homelessness
coordinator
for
the
city
of
charleston
giana
has
just
asked
that
I
share
a
little
bit
about
the
mayor's
commission
on
homelessness
and
affordable
housing
and
some
other
homelessness
initiatives
that
are
going
on
in
charleston.
I
So
underneath
the
mayor's
commission
there's
four
different
subcommittees
the
executive
committee,
housing
subcommittee,
integrated
services
and
resource
they
each
have
different
initiatives
that
they're
going
to
be
working
on
this
year.
The
executive
committee
is
going
to
explore
ways
to
do
local
advocacy.
I
The
integrated
services
subcommittee
is
working
on
standing
up
a
non-profit,
a
charleston
branch
of
a
national
nonprofit
called
family
promise
that
will
allow
community
members
to
mentor
those
who
are
at
risk
of
becoming
homeless.
And
finally,
the
resources
subcommittee
is
working
on
fundraising
for
the
hope
center.
I
So,
in
addition
to
the
mayor's
commission,
then
there's
several
other
things
that
the
city
is
involved
with
to
advocate
for
the
homeless
and
at
risk
of
becoming
homeless.
We
put
on
several
different
meetings.
The
first
one
is
the
current
state
of
homelessness
that
brings
together
a
bunch
of
providers
to
tell
about
the
organizations
and
share
updates
about
what
resources
are
available.
I
I
Different
providers
that
we're
a
part
of
and
the
city
supports
them
in
any
way
that
we
can
the
west
ashley
team
combating
homelessness.
We
work
with
homeless
court
criminal
justice,
coordinating
council
extending
branches
in
the
safety
net
assistance
network.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
good
things
in
the
works.
There's
a
lot
of
people
who
are
working
on
this
initiative
and
excited
about
helping
the
homeless
in
charleston,
just
a
matter
of
bringing
them
together
to
collaborate,
make
sure
everybody's
on
the
same
page
and
work
as
efficiently
as
possible.
I
I
Yeah,
so
the
the
chair
of
the
of
the
mayor's
commission
is
robert
clement
and
then
jack
little
is
the
vice
chair.
Some
of
the
other
members
we
have.
We
have
leaders
of
the
faith
community
like
jen
cameron
and
pastor
eric
at
st
matthews
reverend
kylon
middleton
is
a
part
of
the
mayor's
commission.
Sorry.
G
So
the
commission
itself,
council
member,
does
not
manage
funding.
We
work
with
palmetto
project
to
oversee
the
funding,
which
is
the
organization
that
steve's
garden
heads
up.
So
the
members
of
the
commission
are
appointed
by
the
mayors
from
the
various
jurisdictions
so
mayor,
sammy,
mayor,
haney,
mayor
waring
from
somerville,
each
of
them
appoint
six
members
to
the
commission.
If
you
you
all
may
recall,
some
of
y'all
are
too
young
to
remember.
G
G
We
expanded
it
included
membership
from
across
our
community
so
that,
as
we
look
at
best
practices
and
as
we
strategize,
we
hopefully
garner
a
greater
leverage
and
greater
opportunity
to
help
solve
the
issues
that
are
before
us.
So
it
is
simply
a
commission.
It
does
not
have
a
treasurer
or
secretary
other
than
those
who
have
agreed
to
act
in
that
capacity.
G
D
D
F
G
In
fact,
councilmember
there
is
six
million
dollars
going
to
180
place
for
the
construction
of
573
meeting
street.
Three
million
of
those
dollars
are
coming
from
our
bond
funds.
That
was
approved
several
years
ago,
and
then
three
million
came
from
the
lbc
settlement
funds,
and
so
investment
consistently
goes
to
that
organization.
G
G
So
we
anticipate
that
we
will
have
a
second
person
in
this
role
in
by
the
by
the
end
of
may
of
this
year.
So
we're
excited
about
that.
Currently,
we
are
continuing
to
work
with
our
local
partners
and
soon,
as
you
all
know,
we
will
have
the
hope
center
that
we
will
house
initially
at
the
529
meeting
street
address,
which
is
what
we
originally
referred
to
as
the
navigation
center.
It
will
be
called
the
hope
center
and
we
are
working
pretty
diligently
to
get
that
up
and
running.
G
There
is
a
great
deal
that
has
to
be
done
with
the
building
itself.
The
non-profit
that
currently
resides
there
will
be
relocating
out
of
that
building,
and
so
we
are
working
towards
having
that
building
ready
for
occupation
with
our
non-profit
partners
by
june
1.,
and
so
thank
you
all
for
that
staff
support.
G
In
addition
to
that,
we
will
have
an
mou
presented
to
you
all
next
week
during
the
council
meeting,
we
will
enter
into
memorandums
of
understanding
with
all
of
the
organizations
that
provide
services.
They
will
be
providing
services
on
a
rotating
basis
at
the
center.
So,
in
addition
to
the
staff
from
the
city
of
charleston,
we
have
a
number
of
organizations
that
will
also
help
us
to
facilitate
and
provide
the
services
to
those
residents
that
are
unsheltered
and
briefly
a
week
or
two
ago
you
all
met,
I
think
latasha
jenkins
flood
latasha.
G
G
You
mean,
as
far
as
being
able
to
lease,
so
you
get
a
lease
agreement
soon
as
well,
so
we
have
been,
as
you
all
know,
on
a
month-to-month
lease
the
owner
has
agreed
to
continue
to
allow
us
to
lease
at
least
for
another
year.
When
I
spoke
to
them
a
week
ago,
they
were
preparing
at
least
to
submit
to
our
corporation
council.
G
They
are
interested
naturally
long-term.
They
want
to,
as
I
think
I
shared
with
you
all
previously
developed-
that
building
they
also
own
the
cobleston
cleaners
building,
which
is
right
next
door,
but
they're
not
quite
ready
to
jump
yet,
and
so
they
are
allowing
us
some
additional
time
to
locate
there
until
we
can
build
a
new
center
and
so
one
other
bit
of
information.
I
want
to
share
much
of
what
we
are
doing
other
than
the
mayor's
commission,
because
they've
existed
for
some
time.
G
G
We're
in
the
midst
of
amending
that
plan
currently
and
are
working
with
a
hud
technical
assistance
provider
in
order
to
do
that,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
focusing
on
heavily
is
looking
at
the
numbers
that
can
stay
down
there,
looking
at
the
numbers
in
relation
to
homelessness
and
what
the
needs
are,
and
so
just
for
a
moment.
I'll
share
with
you.
I
don't
know
on
the
screen
or
not.
G
G
G
These
areas
are
part
of
what
we
call
the
continuum
of
care
area.
They
have
a
seven
county
area
that
they
address.
So
these
are
the
initial
number
of
units
that
are
needed
to
help
to
address
the
number
of
units
that
are
needed
for
our
homeless
neighbors,
and
I
know
it's
pretty
stark.
But
yes,
yes,
sir.
J
G
G
F
G
A
E
So,
as
you
know,
our
city
plan
recently
found
a
need
for
an
additional
16
000,
affordable
units
to
address
affordability
gaps
by
the
year
2030.,
that's
a
big
big
number
for
charleston,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
meet
that
number
to
meet
that
goal,
we
need
tools
in
place
to
help
us
understand
how
we're
succeeding
or
how
we're
failing
so
the
affordable
housing
dashboard
is
one
of
those
tools.
That'll
allow
us
to
track
our
progress
and
to
better
analyze
and
understand,
affordable
housing
in
our
city
and
just
some
a
little
bit
of
background.
E
This
project
is
two
years
in
the
making,
with
a
lot
of
hard
work
from
folks
like
chloe
stuber
sandy
gognay,
tracy,
mckee,
marla,
jackman,
florence,
peters
gianna,
working
together
to
compile
a
lot
of
information,
build
up
the
backend
processes
to
allow
us
to
be
able
to
have
this
functional
tool
and
be
able
to
better
track,
affordable
housing
going
forward,
and
also
we
built
this
tool
with
some
key
stakeholders
in
mind.
Really
our
public,
our
development
community,
our
staff
and
our
decision
makers.
E
So
here
is
the
affordable
housing
dashboard.
It
is.
We've
captured
some
some
screenshots
for
this
presentation,
sandy's
on
the
zoom
in
case.
We
want
to
bring
it
up
and
you
know
play
around
with
it.
But
basically,
what
you
can
see
here
is
an
affordable
housing
dashboard
that
documents
all
of
the
existing
affordable
housing
in
our
city.
E
E
K
K
It'll
tell
you
the
address
the
number
of
expected
units
which
is
subject
to
change,
because
these
are
influx
remember,
and
so
some
of
these
details
may
change
as
the
as
the
project
moves
through
the
approvals
process
again
it'll,
say
rental
or
for
sale,
product
multi-family,
single
family.
It
will
give
the
affordability
period.
So
if
it's
in
perpetuity
it'll
say
yes
or
it'll
provide
the
years
of
affordability
period.
If
it's
not
in
perpetuity
this
one's,
not
showing
that
you
can
see
that
the
scroll
bar
on
the
right
has
room
to
go.
K
So
there's
more
information
there
if
it's
a
litec
project,
if
the
city
has
provided
land
funding
sources
that
are
going
into
it
and
how
much
from
each
of
those
funding
sources
and
then
finally
committed
when
we
have
planned
unit
developments
that
have
committed
a
certain
percentage
of
their
units
to
be
affordable.
Housing
we've
also
captured
that
in
this
dashboard,
but
because
those
timelines
are
are
so
uncertain
and
we
don't
know
what
that
final
build
out.
Count
will
be
for
the
units
total
residential
units
and
planned
unit
developments.
K
K
So
we
are
capturing
all
development
that
has
any
number
of
affordable
units
in
it.
As
it
comes
through
our
approvals
process,
they
have
to
fill
out.
Developers
have
to
fill
out
a
registration
form
if,
even
if
they
have
just
one
unit
of
affordable
housing,
we
then
enter
that
into
our
permitting
and
plan
software.
K
Not
only
does
it
populate
the
affordable
housing
dashboard
map
that
the
public
can
access,
but
it
also
allows
staff
to
track
the
progress
of
the
project
as
it
moves
through
the
approvals
process,
and
it's
essentially
provides
a
stamp
saying
that
this
is
a
priority
project.
This
is
helping
us
to
streamline
the
approvals
process
and
make
sure
that
we
are
giving
that
much
needed
priority
to
affordable
housing.
K
K
This
is
showing
that
pie
slice
that
we're
trying
to
get
down
so
the
yellow
piece
we're
trying
to
get
that
as
low
as
possible.
That's
the
gap
that
we're
trying
to
meet
these
numbers
will
automatically
update,
based
on
what's
coming
from
our
permitting
and
plan
software
and
as
projects
are
completed
and
move
into
our
existing,
affordable
housing
database.
K
K
K
F
F
And
I've
been
wanting
to
get
to
you
for
some
time
now,
because
you
and
I
talked
initially
about
it.
But
to
me
if
you
did
that
as
a
graduate
student
for
the
city
of
north
charleston
and
councilman
pal,
we've
been
talking
about
zoning
issues
and
looking
at
all
of
our
zoning
laws
and
all
that
stuff
for
a
while,
which
could
take
some
time.
F
F
Just
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
we
have
the
expertise
in-house
to
do
it,
and
I
think
that
we
should
really
utilize
that,
as
opposed
to
waiting
for
a
year
or
two
year,
study
of
all
of
our
zoning
laws.
I
think
that
if
we
can
get
a
head
start
on
that
now
and
start
making
recommendations
for
changing
those
laws
to
make
sure
that
affordability
is
achievable,
I
think
that
we
should
do
that
now.
F
The
other
question
that
I
had,
can
you
overlay
the
equity
mapping
system?
Okay
on
your
dashboard,
particularly
the
mapping
that
you
show
in
terms
of
where
affordable
housing
are
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
It
would
be
great
to
see
whether
or
not
we
can
overlay
the
equity
mapping
that
was
done
by
you.
I
think
you
were
one
of
the
people
that
helped
with
that,
along
with
melody
and
and
amber
to
sort
of
make
great
use
of
that,
especially
when
we
start
talking
about
affordable
housing.
F
F
A
J
Can
you
all
tell
me
which
program
we
have
that
incentivizes,
the
private
sector?
I
understand
the
nonprofit
community,
you
know
humanities
of
the
world,
but
with
a
private
sector
developer
comes
in
and
because
of
whatever
incentives
we
put
together
says
I'd
like
to
build
some
affordable
units.
I
mean
it's
not
going
after
tax
credits
and
things
like
that.
Do
we
have
a
program
that
does.
E
You
know
it's
their
challenges
because
and
as
you
see
on
on
the
dashboard
most
of
these
affordable
housing
developments
are
you
know
through
the
li-tech
program
supported
through
you,
know,
our
our
bond
funding
or
our
fee
and
loot
funding,
that's
sort
of
been
the
structure
that
we
have
to
get
new.
You
know
larger
density,
affordable
housing
in
the
city,
so
there
are
other
tools
out
there
that
we
can
explore.
F
F
I
don't
know,
but
I've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
while,
because
there
are
some
cities
in
this
country
that
has
a
housing
linkage
to
every
development
that
they
build.
I
think
dc
is
one
of
them.
Okay,
that
could
really
fill
the
coffers
pretty
quick
and
help
us
get
to
the
sixteen
thousand
something
dollars
now.
This
is
something
that
I've
been
talking
about,
and
it's
really
relevant
to
the
question
the
councilman
waring
just
posed.
F
How
do
we
get
the
private
developments
in
this
city,
especially
those
where
their
employers
are
going
to
need
affordable,
housing?
Okay,
so
somehow
I
think
we
have
to
have
to
research
that
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
legislatively
state
legislature
will
restrict
us
in
any
way.
I
don't
know,
but
I
don't
think
so.
D
Thank
you
chair.
I
had
the
opportunity
this
morning,
I'm
not
sure
if
erica
harrison
is
there.
If
you
are
thank
you
for
the
tour.
This
morning
I
went
and
visited
8586
line
street,
which
is
basically
a
30
unit
micro
unit
apartments.
There
are
roughly
350
375
square
feet.
Try
to
get
a
sense
of
you
know
the
project
that
we
are
going
to
eventually
talk
about
putting
out
by
jeff.
What's
his
last
name,
I
can't
remember
his
last
name:
jeff
roberts.
D
D
Is
there
an
opportunity
for
us
to
increase
str
potential,
and
maybe
a
few
of
those
units
are
str
which
would
help
offset
some
of
the
costs
and
then
also
require
a
affordable
requirement
on
the
unit
to
make
it
beneficial
or
make
it
financially
feasible
for
the
developer
to
build
that,
so
it
was
just
some
some
conversation
we
had
this
morning.
I
believe
the
mayor
had
had
had
a
similar
conversation.
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there,
maybe
for
our
future
cd
committee
meeting.
D
F
I
mean
it's
unbelievable,
the
recommendations
that
are
in
there,
which
I
think
has
replaced
our
sort
of
fair
housing
plan.
Really
it's
really
a
great
piece
and
some
of
the
suggestions
in
there.
I
just
think
it's
time
for
us
to
start
following
through
on
it.
I
mean,
I
know
that
we're
trying
to
deal
with
deal
with
stuff
with
the
inclusionary
zoning
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
we've
got
people
trying
to
work
on
that.
F
A
G
Yes,
sir,
we
have
done
that
it's
been
about
a
year
and
a
half
since
we
brought
you
all
an
update
because
we
are
close
to
being
having
completed
what
was
suggested
and
recommended
there
and
what
we
will
do
when
we
bring
you
back
the
budget
relative
to
the
fee
in
lieu
and
the
projects
that
the
fee
and
loo
are
funding.
We
can
also
bring
forth
our
recommendations
relative
to
other
funding
sources.
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
a
council
member
or
respond
to
councilmember
waring's
question.
G
We
do
have
putt
amendments
where
10
percent
of
those
provide
affordable
housing.
We
do
not
provide
any
funding
for
those.
That's
a
part
of
the
additional
density
that
they
receive
within
that
pud.
So,
typically,
the
one
incentive
that
we
have
that
we've
been
able
to
use
is
the
fact
that,
and
when
you
allow
a
certain
level
of
density,
we
can
sometimes
get
a
return
of
units
from
that.
Thank
you.
J
J
About
you
know,
we
created
this
zoning
change
where
minimum
lot
sizes
doesn't
have
to
comply
to
the
50-foot
frontage,
which
allows
more
lots
to
be
created,
in
particular
an
infield
project,
and
I
just
don't
think
when
I
speak
to
some
of
the
engineering
firms
they're
not
even
familiar
with
it.
I
mean
design
engineering,
friends
you're,
not
even
to
me
that
we
made
that
that
change
and
if
somebody
were
to
say
if
private
landowner
were
to
say
I
support
affordable
housing
in
particular,
affordable
owner
occupied
housing
and
wants
to
instead
have
50-foot
frontage
lots.
J
I
want
to
have
40-foot
frontage
lots,
so
they
can
get
more
slices
of
the
pie
so
to
speak
and
they
came
to
the
city.
How
could
the
city
financially
help
with
that?
The
city
has
a
wonderful
piece
with
you
know
for
affordability,
if
you,
you
is
deed,
restricted
for
what
90
years
or
99
years,
which
I
think
is
awesome,
but
I
think
putting
together
some
of
the
pieces
we
have
with
some
of
the
zoning
change
that
we've
created.
J
J
But
I
think
if
we
get
the
private
sector
out
there
saying
if
I
get
more
units,
I
can
hit
the
economy
of
skills,
and
if
I
get
the
some
help
offsetting
the
cost,
then
I
don't
mind
indeed
restricting
it.
You
know
for
the
90-year
period
or
whatever
period
right
now.
What
we
do
is
we
use
all
our
efforts
to
find
properties
to
buy,
and
then
we
try
to
put
the
deal
together.
J
G
And
we
agree
council,
member
and
we've
done
some
of
that,
and
I
think
jeff
roberts
could
probably
speak
to
that
better
than
any
of
us
can,
but
again
one
of
the
incentives-
and
you
mentioned
incentives
we
have
found
even
with
our
private
sector
organization.
We
do
need
a
level
of
capital
in
order
to
incentivize
that
as
well
an
excellent
suggestion.
But
again
it
does
come
back
to
capital,
the
zoning
and
some
of
the
other
incentives
as
a
matter
of
fact,
we're
refining
our
packages
or
our
list
of
tools
right
now.
G
F
G
B
Good
afternoon,
chairman
committee,
so
this
is
an
application.
Pursuant
to
the
abandoned
building,
revitalization
act
of
2013.,
the
owner
is
85
and
87
wentworth
llc
and
the
building
is
at
11
and
a
half
st
phillips
street
a
pursuant
to
this
act.
We
need
to
run
the
application
by
council
for
resolution
certifying
that
it
does
qualify
as
a
an
abandoned
building.
B
A
J
A
G
Yes,
sir,
approximately
two
years
ago,
council
members,
you
all
approved
funding
for
the
low
line,
affordable
housing
project.
At
the
time
when
we
presented
the
low
line,
affordable,
housing
ground
lease
agreement,
the
developer
did
not
need
the
full
amount
of
the
1.5
million
that
we
had
allocated
to
the
project.
G
We
wanted
to
bring
it
to
you
all
first
and
then
it
will
also
go
to
the
ways
and
means
committee
of
city
council,
so
they
are
for
your
for
a
reminder
for
you
producing
55
units
of
rental
housing,
literally
from
30
percent
of
the
area,
median
income
up
to
80
percent
of
the
area,
median
income
and
so
they're
doing
a
spectrum
of
housing
within
the
development.
Making.
Excellent
progress
have
worked
very
well
with
outreach
to
the
community
and
they
are
requesting
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
that
original
allocation.
G
F
C
G
There
is
a
requirement
by
state
housing
that
they
have
a
certain
amount
of
developer
fee
in
their
project
and
if
they
go
below
that,
then
they
risk
not
getting
credits.
State
housing
requires
that
they
be
able
to
have
that
developer
fee
included
in
their
budget
at
a
certain
level,
and
that
may
be
what
you're
re,
what
you're
referring
to
and
the
pages
are
not
numbered,
but
I
think
that
spoke
to
deferring
approximately
50
percent
58
of
their
fee
versus
50
of
their
fee.
Okay,
yes,
sir,
okay.
A
Please
move
and
move
in
second
request
for
tip
funding,
be
approved
any
other
questions
all
in
favor,
but
by
saying
aye
aye
was
the
snake
we're
moving.
Now.
Okay,
we
have
on
number
five.
We
have
discussion
command:
chapter
54
of
the
code
of
city
of
charleston
zoning
ordinance
and
land
use,
regulation
and
workforce
housing,
districts,
opportunity,
zone
and
regulation;
part
4
of
off-street
parking
requirements,
small
equipment
dwelling
units,
so
we
have
all
that
in
one
all
right.
Chris.
C
G
A
L
But
we
do
have
allowances
for
sufficient
parking,
but
they
could
walk
across
the
street
to
work.
They
can
take
public
transit,
they
can
have
bicycles,
they
are
near
a
supermarket
and
these
units
really
allow
somebody
to
walk
in
on
a
on
a
price
approachable
unit,
as
probably
from
a
free
market
point
of
view
of
85
percent
of
ami
without
a
subsidy
or
a
restriction,
and-
and
this
just
gives
it's
one
solution-
it
is
not
a
cure-all.
We
need
20
solutions
and
thank
you
for
the
kind
words
miss
director,
johnson
and
councilman
gregory.
L
We
just
gave
a
nice
presentation
to
the
planning
commission
on
february
16th
about
free
market
solutions
and
potential
collaborations
with
the
with
the
public,
with
the
with
the
private
market
sector,
on
coming
up
with
really
innovative,
interesting
solutions,
how
we
can
involve
the
private
sector,
because
we
can't
subsidize
our
way
totally
out
of
a
housing
crisis.
So
we
came
up
with
a
solution
where
people
can
get
a
class,
a
type
of
apartment
that
would
qualify
somewhere
between
80
85
percent
of
ami
on
up.
This
is
by
no
means
student
housing.
L
M
M
The
more
you
show
up
to
these
type
of
venues
and
the
more
you
get
a
true
resident
and-
and
you
know
the
the
idea
that
this
does
it-
that
this
couldn't
possibly
function
in
this
part
in
any
parts
of
the
city
is
absolutely
incorrect,
because
the
the
mere
fact
that
you
can
walk
to
a
grocery
store.
The
mere
fact
that
you
can
walk
to
your
work.
It
starts
to
reduce
your
actual
footprint
of
where
you
actually
travel
and
and
we've
got
all
those
resources
within
less
than
a
mile.
M
L
They're
only
for
mu
districts,
the
fee
and
lou
and
the
and
the
workforce,
housing
requirements
apply
like
anything
else,
but
these
are
primarily
on
arterial,
roadways
on
medical
district
and
meeting
and
and
morrison
drive
corridors
where
the
transit
is
there,
where
the
walkability
to
work.
Is
there
where
the
walkability
is
shopping
and
that's
where
this
is
and
that
those
are
the
best
things
and
and
this
type
of
typology
is
uniquely
suitable
for
sites
that
are
a
third
of
an
acre
to
a
half
an
acre.
L
So
there
are
little
pockets
of
places
that
can
be
done
on
these
arterial
roadways
and
even
larger
sites
like
the
regis
milk
factory
or
the
or
the
longshoreman's
property,
where
the
developers
are
trying
to
over
mass
it
and
they're
not
succeeding,
and
these
masses
have
to
be
broken
up.
This
typology
is
uniquely
suitable
for
breaking
up
certain
masses
and
having
different
different
type
of
typologies
on
the
site
instead
of
an
over
mass
two
or
three
acre
site.
L
So
we
view
it
as
just
one
tool
in
the
toolkit
that
can
provide
a
missing
middle
that
converges
in
a
market
rate
rent
very
close
to
what
is
a
subsidized
rent
from
gianna's
workforce
housing,
and
for
that
we
don't
believe
that
people
who
want
to
live
there
will
always
need
an
automobile.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we
think
liberally
from
parking
one
one
one
car
for
every
three
residents,
as
opposed
to
one
car
for
every
four
for
a
workforce
unit.
L
We
think
that
is
more
than
generous,
especially
for
the
location
and,
as
erica
says,
the
person
who
would
live.
There
is
not
auto-centric,
they
want
to
walk,
they
think
they
need
to
go
to
target.
They
can
take
an
uber
for
twenty
dollars,
but
the
young,
lady
or
young
man
who's
gonna,
live.
There
gets
to
save
five
hundred
dollars
from
that
car
payment
and
insurance
payment
and
everything
else,
and
they
just
don't
need
to
center
their
life
around
it.
A
J
L
J
L
Trying
to
find
a
conversion
today,
respectfully,
we
feel
that
the
car
would
be
accommodated,
because
not
all
tenants
would
require
a
car
which
is
costly.
They
can
park
it
on
site
where
they
can
look
to
locate
and
park
the
car
in
a
garage,
and
we
also
have
part
of
the
ordinance
that
they're
not
that
a
parking
decal
is
not
available
to
them
for
that
neighborhood,
and
that
would
be
in
the
lease
and
part
of
the
rule
that
they're
not
eligible
for
parking.
No.
J
L
Well,
first
of
all,
they're
restricted
in
the
lease
from
even
obtaining
a
parking
detail.
They've
agreed
in
advance
that
they
can't
be
parasitically
parking
on
a
city
street
and
most
people
who
who
are
automobile-centric
would
not
necessarily
want
to
live.
The
purpose
of
these
units
is
very
close
to
walking
and
shopping
and
not
necessarily
auto-centric,
but
we're
providing
a
fair
amount
of
spaces
there
and
restricting
anybody
from
even
applying
for
a
parking
decal
in
elites
see.
J
Right
on
lee
street,
you
wasn't
going
to
have
you
got
affordable
housing
and
you
got
market
rate
housing
and
they
got
a
terrible
parking
problem
over
there.
Okay,
the
reality
is,
people
have
cars,
and
when
I'm,
I
support
what
you're
trying
to
do,
but
to
create
a
parking
problem.
We
have
to
try
to
find
an
answer
to
that
and
and
you've
thought
about
it
probably
bet
most
and
better
than
most
of
us,
I'm
just
trying
to
find
out
the
reality.
J
Is
people
show
up
with
cars,
because
america
loves
car
still
in
love
with
their
cars.
It'd
be
great
if
two
out
of
three
showed
up
with
bicycles,
okay,
the
problem
is
when
they,
when
they,
when
they
get
in
there,
and
they
show
up
with
a
car,
then
the
neighborhood
suffers,
and
that's
the
part
that
we're
trying.
L
So
we're
looking
at
sort
of
an
enforcement
issue
in
a
lot
of
parking
complaints
come
from
a
lot
of
homeowners
who
don't
park
in
their
driveways,
who
have
two
cars
and
a
golf
park
and
often
try
to
park
on
the
street.
So
I
think
what
we
have
here
is
significantly
an
enforcement
issue
on
parking
and
in
our
proposed
ordinance.
We
have
strongly
put
some
enforcement
mechanisms
where
don't
even
think
about
getting
a
parking,
decal
you're,
not
getting
it.
These
type
of
units
really
cater
to
from
a
demand
point
of
view.
A
F
One
in
three
hundred
units-
34
parking
spaces,
okay,
released
up,
got
a
hundred
units
leased
up,
but
we
still
have
a
hundred
people
that
have
cars.
Now
I
understand
the
disincentive
of
the
you.
Don't
have
look
the
cal
okay,
our
parking
permit,
someplace,
it's
gonna
be
pretty
expensive
for
you
to
park
on
the
street,
because
you're
gonna
get
ticketed
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
but
there's
nothing
in
the
lease
agreement.
F
F
L
L
L
No,
I
I
understand
that
it's
a
great
question.
Furthermore,
from
a
development
point
of
view
for
the
cost
of
building
a
building
and
10
million
dollars
in
eight
years
downtown-
and
you
know,
250
to
300
square
foot,
building
with
the
va
all
rules
and
84
thailand,
any
sensible
developer
would
never
build
it
into
market
obsolescence
because
they
would
never
rent
it
or
they
would
never
get
a
renewal.
L
So
these
are
sort
of
numbers
that
are
even
more
liberal
than
other
districts
who
are
doing
other
cities
like
austin
and
san
francisco
and
washington.
But
I
agree.
I
also
think
that
the
amount
of
departments
with
this
type
of
unit
located
in
the
districts
that
these
are
promulgated
for
and
who
they
appeal
to
is
a
sufficient
amount
from
a
time-tested.
F
That
responsible,
if
you
have,
I
don't
know,
would
pick
a
number
50
60
folks
in
there
that
have
cars
okay
period,
regardless
of
what
the
restrictions
and
all
that
stuff
we
have.
There
fact
that
you
know
they
don't
get
a
decal,
it's
gonna
be
much
more
expensive
for
them
to
park
and
even
find
a
place.
Okay,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
to
to
howl
as
a
city.
Okay,
we
make
sure
that
we
don't
exacerbate
the
limited
parking.
F
We
already
have
that's
public
okay,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
the
developer
are
the
owner
exceeds
x.
Okay,
I
don't
know
what
we
say
would
happen,
they're
greater
minds
than
mine
that
can
determine
that.
But
to
me
there
needs
to
be
something
to
make
sure
something
to
make
sure
that
if,
if,
if
you've
got
80
of
your
occupants
all
having
cars,
what
kind
of
effect
is
that
going
to
have
on
the
community.
L
L
If
you
and
a
place
had
a
hundred
units
and
and
34
parking
spots,
it
would
be
logical
for
the
leasing
office
to
say,
don't
even
think
about
leasing
here,
if
you
have
a
car
you're
not
having
a
permit
but
respectfully
here's
where
it
gets
a
little
dicey
and
there's
probably
a
way
to
work
through
this
and
a
nuance
in
dealing
with
with
the
management
of
it.
If
you're
in
the
medical
district,
medical
residents
have
the
use
of
the
musc
garage
as
a
free
parking
spot.
L
So
if
they
have
a
car
they're
parking
in
a
free,
musc
garage,
even
though
they
may
not
use
it,
because
they're
working
18
hours
a
day
doing
that
so
again,
it's
it's
an
interesting
concept,
but
we
wouldn't
have
built
it
into
any
developer,
would
not
have
built
it
into
obsolescence
and
we
feel
a
lot
of
these
districts.
The
excess
part.
The
parking
issues
are
a
function
of
enforcement
and
not
caused
by
these
type
of
buildings
and
and
again
enforcement
from
people
who
who
are
going
there
to
work
and
parking
on
the
street.
H
Thank
you,
chairman
mitchell,
and
I
I'm
sorry
I'm
not
with
y'all.
Today
I
I
over
looked
the
email
that
said
it
was
gonna,
be
hybrid.
So
I'm
sorry
I'm
hanging
out
on
on
zoom
here,
but
just
a
couple
thoughts
to
add
to
the
discussion
here.
You
know
we
we
were
talking
a
minute
ago
about
looking
at
our
zoning
ordinance
to
find
ways
that
our
current
regulations
not
intentionally
perhaps
but
you
know,
nonetheless
have
an
adverse
effect
on
affordable
housing.
H
H
H
You
know
zoning
practice,
which
are
extremely
inimical,
unique,
affordable
housing
and
you
know
minimum
parking
requirements.
We
talked
about
this
when
we
did
away
with
minimum
parking
requirements
on
king
street
last
year
to
to
great
success.
I
might
add
you
know
these.
These
are
not
rules
of
nature
that
came
from.
You
know
the
heavens,
on
on
tablets
of
stone.
I
mean
minimum
parking
requirements
you
know
were
were
put
into
place
downtown.
H
You
know
in
the
60s
right
there
weren't
minimum
parking
requirements
for
the
first
half
century
of
the
automobile,
and
you
know
the
sky
didn't
fall.
You
know,
you
know
the
sun
didn't
burn
out.
I
mean
you
know,
there's
ways
that
this
can
work
and
in
terms
of
you
know
what
will
happen
if
people
bring
their
cars
anyways.
H
If
people
park
their
cars
where
they
shouldn't
park,
whether
it's
in
a
residential
zone
where
they
need
a
sticker
and
they
can't
get
a
sticker
because
of
how
we've
set
this
whole
thing
up,
then
we
should
annihilate
them
through
our
parking
enforcement.
Okay
make
it
so
onerous
boot
them
tow
them
find
them.
H
I
mean,
let's
just
turn
up
the
dial
to
a
10
so
that
you
don't
park
where
you're
not
allowed
to
period,
and
you
know,
let's
use
that
money,
that
we
generate
to
fund
additional
enforcement
and
just
create
an
extremely
aggressive
parking
enforcement
regime
right.
That's
how
we
address
people
not
doing
what
they're
supposed
to
be
doing,
but
we
don't
we
shouldn't
you
know
in
the
interest
of
like
I.
H
I
don't
want
people
parking
in
neighborhoods
where
they
shouldn't
be
parking,
but
you
know
the
the
answer
to
that
is
not
to
put
handcuffs
on
developers
to
prevent
them
from
bringing
to
market
units
to
solve
our
affordability
crisis.
It's
it's
to
enforce
the
set
the
rules
about
where
people
can
park
where
they
can't
and
go
after
them
hard
if
they
break
the
rules,
and
so
I
think,
there's
ways
to
address
all
these
issues.
H
If
we
need
to
maybe
put
an
item
on
tnt
to
talk
about
ways
we
can
toughen
up-
and
you
know
let's
put
this
way,
if
you're
renting
a
unit
for
1300
1500
a
month,
then
you
get
a
parking
ticket
for
your
month's
rent.
Perhaps
if
we're
allowed
to
do
that,
I
don't
know
I'm
not
an
expert
in
parking
enforcement
law.
You
know
you
can
start
seeing
how
the
economic
incentives
of
bringing
a
car
and
not
doing
what
you're
supposed
to
be
doing
can
have
a
backwards.
H
You
know
you
know
people
people
operate
based
on
incentives
and
we
have
to
just
you
know,
set
the
system
up
right
where
people
are
incentivized
to
do
the
right
thing
and
not
do
the
wrong
thing.
So
I
think
there's
ways
we
can
do
this.
This
is
an
example
of
loosening
or
zoning
restrictions
to
foster
affordability
through
the
private
sector,
which
I
think
to
councilman
waring's
point
from
earlier.
H
There's
just
absolutely
no
way
we're
getting
16
000,
affordable
units
on
the
peninsula,
through
fees
and
regulations
and
all
those
kind
of
things
it's
just
never
going
to
happen.
We
have
to
find
a
way
to
expand
the
vision
of
how
we
make
affordability
happen,
and
this
is
one
of
the
ways
we
do
it,
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
great
proposal
and
I
think
you
know
if
we
can
tweak
some
of
these
parking
rules
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
negative
externalities
associated
with
this,
I'm
all
for
it.
D
Thank
you
chair.
Sorry,
you
got
zapped
off
a
couple
things
I.
I
would
really
encourage
councilman,
waring
and
and
gregory
and
mitchell
to
go.
Look
at
him
if
you
haven't
85
and
86
line
street
today
eric
is
smiling.
I
I
think,
there's
some
there's
it's
it's
visually!
You
see
what
you
can
put
into
a
small
space,
and
I
mean
I
just
will
say
in
terms
of
the
parking
they
do
have
a
somewhat
of
a
parking
solution
back
there.
It's
not
it's,
not
a
silver
bullet,
but
they
have
a
parking
carousel.
D
Believe
it
in
our
city.
These
things
you
see
in
dc.
You
see
them
in
new
york.
You
see
them
in
atlanta.
You
know
it's
as
expensive
and
there's
probably
a
upfront
cost,
but
that
parks
erica
you,
you
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
that
parks
15
to
20
vehicles
vertically
29
vehicles
vertically,
that
that's
the
perfect
solution
to
park
a
maximum
number
of
cars
in
a
small
space.
D
D
D
People
are
going
to
have
vehicles,
we
need
to
figure
out
a
system
in
a
way
to
either
incentivize
them
not
to
have
vehicles
or
mitigate
the
fact
that
they
will
have
vehicles,
which
is
my
point
around
the
carousel
and
into
councilman
paul's
point.
Maybe
we
relax
some
of
these
standards,
but
just
to
assume
all
these
folks
are
not
going
to
have
vehicles
is
good,
in
my
opinion,
is
going
to
do
a
disservice
to
the
neighborhood.
J
J
J
It's
no
requirement
on
the
developer,
but
it
is
a
full
warning
that
they
sign,
at
least
with
a
warning
in
there
saying
that
if
you
gonna
be
non-compliant
in
parking,
your
car
you're
going
to
be
subject
to
rigorous
enforcement.
In
this
case,
I
guess
by
the
city
of
charleston,
I
mean,
could
something
like
that
be
done?
It's
not
it's
not
a
requirement,
it's
just
informing
them
before
they
move
in
of
something
that
could
happen.
B
I
don't
necessarily
know
if
we
could
force
the
the
landlord
to
insert
something
like
that.
What
you
suggested
makes
a
little
more
sense,
because
it's
not
necessarily
a
requirement
on
the
tenant
to
not
have
a
car,
or
else
it's
just
a
warning
or
just
educating
the
tenant
that
if
you
do
bring
a
car,
you
will
be
subject
to
the
parking
enforcement
provisions
of
the
city
and
that's.
C
B
L
L
I
think
this
amendment
for
mixed
use,
citywide
that
would
go
into
the
spirit
and
intent
of
the
micro
unit
and
I
as
a
developer
and
like-minded
colleagues
who
would
be
so
inclined
to
do.
This
would
have
no
issue
putting
something
in
there
and,
as
councilman
appel
says,
turn
the
dial
up
to
a
10..
The
intent
here
is
not
to
parasitically
choke
city
streets.
L
Everything
we're
big
on
disclosure,
disclose
everything
so
you
park
here
and
you,
if
you
are
warned
if
you
park
on
the
street
you're
getting
a
level
10.,
I
don't
think
any
developer.
Who
is
similarly
minded?
Who
would
do
this
creatively
would
have
any
issue,
disclosing
that
in
the
lease
and
and
having
some
type
of
amendment
in
that
lease
saying
you
cannot
park
on
the
city.
If
you
do,
you
are
going
to
be
subject
to
these
draconian
fines
and
penalties
and
whatnot.
I
I
don't
see
that
as
an
issue.
J
B
J
F
C
So
the
neighborhood
voted
on
this
years
ago,
when
it
came,
came
folks
to
our
community
and
believe
me,
when
I
say
have
boots
on
the
ground.
I
watch
what's
happening
in
the
in
the
medical
district,
and
now
this
will
be
a
fantastic
opportunity
for
people
to
live.
There
walk
there
and
the
developer
dot
the
eye
and
cross
the
t,
because
they
follow
all
the
ideas
and
recommendations
that
we
was
in
the
city
plan.
D
My
question
is
for
mr
roberts,
if
you
could
just
briefly
talk
about,
you
know
why
the
concept
of
a
carousel
would
work,
wouldn't
work
financially
the
space
too
small,
too
big.
Can
you
just
address
that
because
I,
I
do
think
that's
a
legitimate
solution
to
to
part
up
to
address
part
of
the
parking
problem.
M
So
thank
you
for
giving
me
your
your
time,
and
I
I'm
not
answering
the
question
for
mr
roberts,
but
I
do
want
to
just
kind
of
explain.
The
carousel
piece
is
that
this
ordinance
didn't
exist
at
the
time,
and
so
we
had
to
comply
with
the
current
regulations.
Now
would
we
have
had
to
make
that
significant
investment,
not
necessarily
because
we
had
to
find
a
solution
to
a
problem
which
was
there
was
no
option
to
do
as
much
density
on
that
site
on
a
per
acre
using
an
mu?
M
Now,
when
you
look
at
the
entire
map
of
properties
that
are
zoned
in
you,
there
are
not
a
lot
of
those
properties
that
are
going
to
fit
into
this
type
of
matrix
of
this
ordinance,
there's
only
very
few
that
are
going
to
be
within
a
quarter
of
a
mile
of
a
grocery
store
and
near
a
job
center.
Very,
very
there.
It's
it's
it's
very
small
number
of
opportunities
and
a
lot
of
those
sites
that
are
zoned
in
you
are
already
have
plans
of
development
on
them
that
currently
exist.
M
The
reason
why
ours
works
is
because
we
made
the
investment,
knowing
that
there
was
there
was
be
a
fine
balance
between
providing
affordable
and
doing
our
market
rate,
but
also
the
issue
about
the
question
about
the
one-to-one
parking
about
100
people
being
on
the
site.
Is
that
there's
a
presumption
that
people
are
not
shrewd
enough
to
be
able
to
figure
out
how
to
navigate
the
peninsula
without
a
vehicle?
M
So
the
concept
that
there's
a
100
percent
100
that
every
occupant
in
that
building
will
have
a
vehicle
I
think,
makes
it
makes
the
presumption
that
it
can't
function
that
someone
cannot
function
without
a
vehicle
if
they're,
if
they're
sold,
if,
if
they're
within
this
kind
of
a
one-mile
radius
of
everything
that
they
need
to
to
have.
But
mr
robert
I'm
going
to
let
you
answer
that.
L
L
You
have
a
commercial
activated
storefront
and
a
straight
front,
because
these
are
all
at
city,
centers
and
the
buildings
have
to
architecturally
be
congruence
and
that
particular
device
that
erica
had
uniquely
it
works
for
for
that
particular
site
before
this
was
invented,
and
to
to
create
that
that
particular
devices
is
actually
inefficient
to
build.
What
we
need
to
build,
especially
on
sites
that
are
in
commercial
corridors
on
arterial
roadways.
L
L
So
if
something
was
created,
you
know
on
a
site
that
that
one
of
the
many
sites
that
we
would
have
planned
to
do
something
like
this.
In
an
mu
district,
we
had
a
previous
plan
prior
to
the
city,
comprehensive
plan
that
came
out
with
119
bedrooms
with
each
with
individual
bathrooms,
but
it
was
classified
as
30
units,
so
we
would
have
had
close
to
120
residents
with
only
30
parking
spots
and
because
the
comprehensive
plan
came
out
and
we
were
so
enamored
with
it
and
said
we
can
create
this.
L
F
F
F
I
hope
the
members
of
the
committee
has
done
their
homework
and
reviewed
the
proposed
fair
housing
law
proposed
draft
law,
and
I
think
it's
very
important
for
us
to
clearly
understand
that
when
we
talk
fair
housing,
okay,
we're
talking
fair
housing
for
everyone,
because
everyone
in
this
room
is
protected
under
the
fair
housing
act.
Every
single
person
in
this
room
is
protected
under
the
fair
housing
act,
and
I'm
saying
that
to
make
sure
that
my
colleagues
clearly
realize
that
when
we
talk
fair
housing,
it
is
not
race-based.
F
Okay,
it
has
protective
classes,
sexual
orientation,
race,
religion,
color.
What
are
some
of
the
other
familial
status?
Persons
with
disabilities,
all
of
us
fit
under
one
of
those
categories
and
will
at
some
point
so
when
we
talk
fair
housing.
I
just
want
everybody
to
be
clear
that
we're
talking
about
protections
for
all
charlestonians.
F
F
I
find
this
piece
to
be
more
action-oriented
and
one
may
say:
well,
this
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
the
ordinance
that
we
pass
well.
It
does
because
if
you
read
the
ordinance,
the
ordinance
clearly
talk
about
harc
looking
at
the
non-discrimination
requirements
that
are
applicable
to
the
city
of
charleston,
so
there
is
a
linkage.
F
F
F
Some
may
argue
that
the
infrastructure
is
not
in
place
for
us
to
take
this
on,
and,
I
would
argue
just
the
opposite.
The
city
of
charleston
has
been
working
with
the
charleston
urban
league
for
years
to
do
marketing
and
outreach,
and
more
recently,
the
united
states
department
of
housing
and
urban
development
gave
our
urban
league
a
fip
grant,
which
is
the
fair
housing
initiatives
program
grant
in
the
amount
of
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars.
F
F
F
F
F
F
I'm
submitting
legislation,
councilman
saccharin,
okay,
it's
not
coming
from
the
administration,
but
it's
coming
from
me.
Okay,
so
we
do
have
the
ability
to
do
that
as
long
as
we
work
very
closely
with
our
legal
department,
in
addition
to
the
legal
department,
comparing
our
draft
with
the
federal
requirements.
F
I've
done
that
as
well,
and
there's
only
one
line
in
there
that
we've
got
to
take
out
and
that's
the
line
dealing
with
gifts.
Okay,
there's
something
in
there
about
gifts
that
doesn't
belong
in
there.
Okay.
The
second
thing
is
that
where
we
have
hark,
let's
put
human
affairs
commission,
okay,
so
I'm
asking-
and
I
hope
that
everybody
did
their
homework-
that
everybody
read
this
rule
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
through
deferment.
F
F
All
this
is
going
to
do,
I
think,
is
give
the
city
the
kind
of
enforcement
authority
to
make
the
fair
housing
act
real.
Yes,
we
have
one
on
the
books
now,
but
the
highest
penalty,
I
think,
is
a
thousand
dollars
or
something
like
that.
That's
it
I
mean
people
who
have
violated
the
fair
housing
act
of
title
vi
have
been
held
responsible
in
some
cases
for
26
million
dollars
in
damages,
and
I
think
of
the
walker
case
in
east
texas,
and
there
are
a
number
of
other
cases.
F
With
those
adjustments
that
I
just
articulated
like
changing,
where
we
have
hark
to
human
affairs
and
again,
I
guess
you
want
to
know
well
who's
going
to
do
all
this
work.
You
subcontract
it
out.
Folks,
okay,
our
legal
department,
okay,
does
not
have
the
capacity
to
do
all
of
what
it
would
be
required
if
this
law
becomes
substantial
equivalent.
F
A
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
you
know
I
fully
support
us
having
a
fair
housing
ordinance.
I
fully
support
us
having
a
robust
enforcement
mechanism
because
I
agree
with
councilman
gregory.
If
you
have
an
ordinance
on
the
book
and
you're
not
enforcing
it,
that
that
is
performance,
that's
not
that's
not
being
real
about
it.
H
I
mean
look
at
what
we
do
with
short-term
rentals,
for,
for
goodness
sake,
I
mean
you,
you
run
a
unlawful
airbnb
in
canon
borough,
elliott,
borough,
you're,
getting
popped
by
the
city
of
charleston,
okay
and
if
we're
a
city,
that's
enforcing
short-term
rentals
more
aggressively
than
we
are
discrimination
on
the
basis
of
race,
sexual
orientation,
etc.
That's
not
that's
not
a
good
place
to
be.
I
think
we
can
enforce
all
of
our
ordinances.
We're
gonna
have
an
ordinance
on
the
book
we
we
ought
to
enforce
it.
H
I'm
I'm
even
not
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
hark,
having
a
role
in
reviewing
what
we're
doing
and
providing
feedback
and
input,
and
you
know
things
of
that
nature,
but
but
I
do
think,
as
the
ordinance
is
drafted
and
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
councilman
gregory
is,
you
know
open
to
a
modification
here.
I
do
have
a
an
issue
with
a
citizen
appointed
board
having
enforcement
powers
to
this
degree,
issuing
subpoenas
holding
administrative
hearings
initiating
lawsuits
things
things
of
that
nature.
H
You
know
we
don't
we
don't
let
the
citizens,
police
advisory
council
go
and
arrest
people
and
carry
guns,
and
things
like
that.
You
know
citizens
commissions
having
a
very
important
role
in
this
city,
but
they're
there
to
review
and
provide
input
and
and
be
a
resource
for
us.
So
as
long
as
we
can
invest
the
enforcement
powers
in
a
city
entity,
that's
that's.
You
know
professionalized,
and
you
know
made
up
of
attorneys
and
professionals
that
we
hire
to
do
this
enforcement
work,
I'm
all
for
it.
H
If
we
can
get
the
federal
government
to
pay
for
it,
I'm
double
supportive
of
it.
So
I
just
think
that
I
want
to
applaud
councilman
gregory
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
think
that
this
is
what
legislating
looks
like,
and
you
know,
let's
just
make
sure
that
the
enforcement
provisions
are
are
appropriate
here
and
I
think
we'll
be
in
in
a
good
position.
So
I
appreciate
you
all
hearing
me
out
on
that.
D
Yes,
thank
you
chairman
councilman
gregory.
Can
you
just?
Can
you
just
explain?
Obviously
you
all
know
you
know
you
personally
know
where
I
stand
on
this
and
echo
ross's
his
comments.
I
guess
my
question
is,
to
what
extent
does
hark,
have
the
ability
to
execute
or
initiate
some
of
these
things
that
are
outlined
in
the
ordinance.
F
If,
if
our
law
is
found
substantially
equivalent
to
the
federal
law-
and
this
is
under
our
human
affairs-
flash
heart
commission,
then
that
commission
would
then
have
the
responsibility
finding
and
identifying
the
kind
of
expertise
to
make
things
happen.
Under
no
circumstances
am
I
saying
that
we
are
not
going
to
be
working
with
corporation
council
on
this?
F
It's
a
no-brainer
we
would
have
to,
but
when
it
comes
to
investigations
when
it
comes
to
complaints
when
it
comes
to
making
sure
that
those
complaints
have
standing
or
whether
or
not
those
complaints
can
be
closed,
administratively,
all
of
that
will
be
done
at
a
sub
contracting
level
through,
hopefully,
the
urban
league.
I've
already
had
some
discussions
with
other
meadows,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
the
urban
league
and
in
our
conversations
he
clearly
said
that
hud
would
look
very
well
upon
them.
A
The
motion-
emotion,
okay,
I'm
gonna-
have
to
know
something
for
you.
So
far,
the
fair
housing
is
concerned.
A
lot
of
my
colleagues
might
not
be
so
familiar
with
the
fair
housing
act
so
to
speak,
but
the
fair
housing
act.
I
worked
in
that
fair
housing
act
for
almost
30
years,
doing
the
fair
housing
for
the
total
three
counties:
berkeley,
dorchester,
charleston,
county
and
myrtle
beach,
hilton
at
buford
and
walter
bar.
I
did
it
all
under
fair
housing
when
I
was
working
as
a
heart.
A
A
A
F
F
So,
in
addition
to
working
with
corporation
council,
we
would
also
have
to
work
with
the
program
area
which
is
responsible
to
make
sure
that,
when
the
city
certifies
to
the
non-discrimination
requirements,
that
is
in
fact
carried
out
and
not
just
the
fair
housing
act,
title
six
section
three
and
I
can
go
on
and
on
so
and
again.
This
is
back
to
councilman,
appel
and
councilman
sacrament.
It's
not
something
that
can
be
worked
on
in
isolation
and
it
will
be
coordinated
through
corporation
council
and,
of
course,
the
office
of
housing
and
community
development.
H
H
H
H
C
F
Correctly
yeah
for
transparency
purposes
and
I
need-
and
I
and
I
think
that
council
member
appellate
spot
on
call
it
what
it
is
and
it
is
hark
and
hark,
has
a
human
affairs
function
so
call
it
what
it
is.
I'm
where
you
are.
You
don't
have
to
agree
with
that
amendment
and
the
reason
that
can
we
talk
offline
regarding
this
issue,
but
I'm
willing
to
take
that
amendment
off
and
leave
it
as
hark.
F
That's
based
on
law,
that's
based
on
us
being
able
to
to
subcontract
with
an
entity
that
is
experienced
in
this
area,
because
if
you
read
the
fair
housing
law
federal
law,
you
will
see
that
the
the
kinds
of
requirements
in
order
to
get
from
point
a
to
point
b
is
just
not
a
little
citizen
advisory
group.
Saying
hey:
let's
do
a
subpoena!
F
No,
you
have
to
determine
first
of
all
before
you
even
get
there.
Okay,
whether
or
not
the
complainant,
okay
has
standing.
If
it
doesn't
have
standing,
then
it'll
be
closed
administratively,
but
that's
not
decided
by
by
the
citizenry.
That's
decided
by
the
operation
that
we
put
in
place
to
do
the
screening
and
to
make
the
determination,
and
that
will
be
done
by
people
who
are
professionals
in
this
area.
F
F
F
H
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
I'm
looking
at
section
8
of
the
proposed
new
ordinance
subsection
a
it.
This
is
what
it
says
it
says
in
conducting
an
investigation,
the
heart
shall
have
access
at
all
reasonable
times
to
premises,
records,
documents,
individuals
and
other
evidence
or
possible
sources
of
evidence
and
may
examine
record
and
copy
the
materials
and
take
the
record
and
testimony
or
statements
of
persons
who
are
reasonably
necessary
for
the
furtherance
of
the
investigation,
provided
the
heart
first
complies
with
the
provisions
of
the
state
constitution
relating
to
unreasonable
searches
and
seizures.
H
H
H
H
If
this
is
not
substantially
remedied
again,
let's
establish
a
department
of
the
city
like
we
do
with
short-term
rentals,
like
we
do
with
other
types
of
enforcement
issues
and,
let's
professionalize
it
and
let's
fund
it.
The
heart
can
review
what's
going
on
and
make
recommendations
and
things
of
that
nature
all
day,
but
don't
tell
me
the
heart
is
going
to
be
having
subpoena
power
and
the
ability
to
come
to
initiate
hearings
and
to
file
lawsuits
and
to
contract
with
people.
H
That's
what
this
ordinance
is
presented
says,
and
I
just
some
warning
this
is
going
to
not
go
over
well
with
the
with
the
community
and
the
public.
I'm
just.
I
want
this
to
succeed.
This
is
not
the
right
way
to
go
about
the
enforcement
mechanism.
Again
it
just
comes
down
to.
We
can't
have
citizens
groups
enforcing
municipal
ordinances,
it
just
that's.
That's
not!
That's
not
gonna
go
over
well.
F
F
Absent
a
complaint
there's
nothing
to
review,
but
if
a
complaint,
let's
say
the
complaint
comes
to
the
heart:
okay:
where
would
that
go
okay?
I
mean
the
first
place
if
that,
if,
if
something
comes
to
the
heart
that
would
go
to
whatever
subgroup
whatever
partner
we
have,
that
has
the
kind
of
investigative
skills.
F
To
take
a
look
at
the
complaint
just
remember,
this
is
complaint,
driven
okay
to
look
at
that
complaint
through
the
eyes
of
professional
people
who
understands
the
law
and
make
a
determination
as
to
on
its
face.
There
may
be
a
violation
of
the
law
now
if
there
is
a
violation
of
the
law.
Okay,
that's
when
everything
else
kicks
in
in
terms
of
investigations,
because
you're
going
to
have
to
investigate
it.
Somebody's
going
to
have
to
investigate,
determine
whether
or
not
the
complaint
has
any
legitimacy.
H
I
mean
I
think
that
our
ordinances
should
be
enforced.
You
know
in
a
universal
standard
way
across
the
board.
I
mean
it's,
it's
our
legal
department,
it's
my
understanding
that
enforces
our
ordinances.
We
have
different
sort
of
divisions,
I
mean
don't.
We
have
an
attorney
that
just
prosecutes
short-term
rental
violations
under
rstr
regulations.
I
mean
I'm
again,
I'm
not
opposed
to
enforcement.
I'm
just
saying
we
can't
let
a
citizen's
appointed
group
do
this.
It's
it's!
It's
just
not!
There's
just
no
way.
That's
legal!
H
Put
aside
whether
it's
good
policy,
I
don't
think
it's
good
policy.
I
don't
think
it's
legal!
You
cannot
give
a
group
of
people,
we
just
select
executive
powers
like
this
in
judicial
powers.
Like
this
I
mean
under
this
ordinance.
The
heart
is
getting
executive
powers,
legislative
powers
and
judicial
powers.
They
have
the
authority
to
contract
under
section
16-24-019.
H
H
More
powerful
than
council,
we
don't
have
judicial
powers,
we
don't
have
executive
powers.
I
mean
this
is
an
enormous
amount
of
authority,
that's
being
granted
to
a
entity
that,
as
my
understanding
was
a
is
an
entity,
that's
designed
to
review
policies
by
the
city
and
provide
us
with
recommendations
which
is
fine.
F
But
I
think
we
can,
I
think
we
can
short
circuit
this.
If
that's
problematic,
I
you
know,
I
think
that
it
could
go
to
our
legal
department
in
conjunction
with
with
the
office
of
community
development,
and
it
may
be
that
our
legal
department
may
we
may
have
to
allocate
dollars
to
our
legal
department
to
have
someone
specifically
for
this
issue.
Let's,
let's
make
it
simple,
I'm
with
you,
I
mean.
D
Already,
thank
you,
sir.
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
the
delta
between
ross
and
councilman
gregory's
proposal.
I'm
going
to
vote
to
pass
this
to
move
this
forward,
but
I
do
have
concerns
just
around
the
language
if
it
needs
to
be
more
clearly
articulated
about
what
hark's
role
is,
which
I'm
obviously
supportive
of.
Let's
do
that.
It
sounds
like
councilman.
Gregory
is
willing
to
to
move
that
to
another
part
of
the
city,
whether
it's
our
general
council
or
another
department.
J
J
H
You
know
I
personally,
I
think
that
this
may
need
another
scrub
by
legal
to
make
sure
that
the
right
authorities
are
put
in
the
right
places.
I
mean.
Typically,
a
municipal
attorney
doesn't
have
subpoena
powers.
Subpoenas
are
issued
typically
through
the
court
right
so
like
if
I
file
a
lawsuit
in
civil
court,
and
I
want
to
issue
a
subpoena-
I
signed
the
subpoena,
the
subpoena
is
issued
through
the
court
right.
So
it's
it's
really
a
tribunal,
whether
it's
you
know
judicial
or
administrative,
that
has
subpoena
powers.
H
H
You
know
if
we
establish
sort
of
an
administrative
complaint
review
and
adjudication
process
that
that
that
body
can
have
subpoena
powers.
Potentially
you
know
so
what
I
mean
by
like
an
administrative
body.
It
would
be
something
akin
to
like
the
administrative
law
courts
that
we
have
in
in
south
carolina,
but
it
would
need
to
be
like
a
neutral.
H
You
know,
judge
or
somebody
that
viewed
rules
on
this.
You
know
it
can't
be.
You
know,
with
the
kind
of
teeth
that
we're
talking
about
here,
you
can't
you
can't
place
that
in
the
hands
of
you
know
just
like
regular
citizens
like
we
see
with
the
bza
or
the
planning
commission
or
something
along
those
lines.
They
don't
have
the
kind
of
teeth
of
that
magnitude,
but
I
I
would
suggest
you
know,
we've
got
years
to
do
this.
H
Based
on
what
I'm
hearing,
I
I
think,
before
an
ordinance
gets
to
full
council,
I
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
a
scrub
of
this
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
a
legitimate
enforcement
mechanism
while
being
very
clear
about
the
various
roles
in
here,
because
I
just
I'm
concerned
about
the
way
the
ordinance
is
drafted
right
now
and
how
it
could
be
seized
upon
potentially
so
that
would
be.
That
would
be
my
request.
J
The
council
amendment,
I
think
you
have
a
common
ground
on
your
your
concern.
I
mean
this
is
where
the
sausage
gets
made
in
committee,
so
we
don't
have
to
do
this
on
the
floor.
Given
your
concern,
what
would
be
the
the
right
deposit
place
to
deposit
if
you
will,
when
complaints-
and
I
don't
know-
has
to
be
followed,
followed
up
upon?
It's
not
going
to
be
the
committee,
if
not
the
legal
department,
where.
H
Well,
I
mean,
I
think,
that
you
know
let's
analogize
it
to
other
types
of
ordnance
violations.
I
mean
if,
if
somebody
you
know,
is
operating
an
illegal,
short-term
rental
and
burns
downs,
and
I
get
a
complaint
about
it
that
goes
to
our
you
know:
livability
legal
department
for
further
action
and
maybe
code
enforcement.
H
I
don't
know
enough
about
this
area
of
the
law
to
say
what's
appropriate,
my
only
concern
is
we
just
can't
have
a
citizen's
appointed
group
having
any
you
know:
judicial
powers
or
executive
powers
in
terms
of
bringing
cases
and
enforcing
the
law.
I
just
think
that's
that's
problematic,
so
so
I
hope
I'm
being
helpful
here.
I
think
that
the
more
we
can
bring
this
in
line
with
the
way
that
we
currently
enforce
ordinances.
F
F
F
So
you
do
have
the
linkage
directly
in
the
mayor's
office,
because
that
staff
person
reports
to
the
mayor,
so
just
so
that
we
we're
both
on
the
same
page,
this
the
heart
is
a
little
different
from
some
of
the
other
commissions
that
we
had.
But
I
think
that
if
we
to
settle
your
concern
to
me,
the
only
way
we
can
settle
your
concern
is
to
change
heart
to
something
else,
because
anything
else
you
want
to
scrub
would
make
it
not
substantially
equivalent
to
the
federal
law
and
therefore
it
won't
be
approved.
A
D
I
don't
want
to
throw
the
baby
out
with
the
bathwater.
I
think
hark
has
a
place
in
this
ordinance.
I
just
think
we
need
to
be
very
clear
about
the
some
of
the
language,
I'm
not
an
attorney,
but
when
I
do
see
subpoena
in
some
of
these
this
language
it
does,
it
does
give
me
cause
pause
for
concern.
So
I
want
to
keep
heart
having
a
central
place
in
this,
but
being
clear
about
some
of
these
points.
D
So
we're
talking
about
subpoena
power
gathering
evidence
and
to
me,
that's
a
I'm,
not
sure,
that's
the
role
of
hark,
and
maybe
that
falls
on
council
general
counsel,
but
I
think
ross
made
a
good
point
earlier.
Maybe
maybe
hark's
role
is
to
review
some
of
these
issues
and
to
provide
recommendations,
but
getting
into
some
of
the
legalese
I
feel
like
we
are
going
to
open
up
a
can
of
worms.
That's
going
to
cause
concern
for
other
council
members.
F
G
C
G
B
B
G
B
I
am
getting
my
steps
in
thank
you,
so,
under
our
current
fair
housing
ordinance,
the
city
can
file
in
circuit
court
for
an
injunction
to
stop
any
inappropriate
behavior
or
we
can
issue
a
ticket
for
a
misdemeanor
under
our
current
code,
and
so
I
would
assume
the
legal
department
would
be
doing
that.
If
that
is
the
case,.
F
C
J
F
Speaking
of
writing
legislation
and
understanding
it,
there
was
a
purpose
to
put
that
piece
in
the
heart
ordinance
because
of
this
very
issue,
but
you're,
not
good
and
and
and
and
heart
will
be
doing
much
more
than
this.
By
the
way
I
mean
this
is
just
one
aspect,
but
I
see
heart
more
as
administrative
and
and
coordinating
with
our
legal
department
in
our
community
planning
and
development
department
on
issues
of
fair
housing,
affirmatively
further
and
fair
housing,
because
they
don't
have
the
kind
of
power
that
you're
talking
about.
H
You
know
I
need
to
see.
I
need
to
see
the
way
it's
drawn
up
to
to
understand
what
we're
doing
here
again,
I'm
not
opposed
to
enforcement
mechanisms
under
our
authority,
but
I
think
we
got
to
be
very
careful
about
how
we
are
communicating
about
hark
which,
by
the
way,
hasn't
even
been
formed.
I
mean
we
approved
this
thing
after
so
much
you
know
back
and
forth.
H
It
hasn't
done
its
first
thing.
You
know
we're
talking
about
getting
it
subpoena
power.
I
mean
I
I
I
think
really
hark
should
be
one
sentence
in
this
ordinance
that
they
have
the
opportunity
to
review
our
ordinances
and
our
practices
and
policies
and
make
recommendations
to
us,
but
hark
should
be
nowhere
near
any
enforcement
action,
any
investigation
any
subpoena,
any
administrative
hearing,
any
lawsuit,
I'm
telling
y'all
there
is
nowhere
close
to
seven
votes
for
this,
and
the
community
is
going
to
go
crazy
if
this
lands
on
a
city
council
agenda,
I
mean
weird.
H
Do
you
all
remember
that
I
sort
of
had
a
similar
line
of
warning
about
this
process
last
summer?
And
nobody
listened
to
me
and-
and
we
saw
what
happened-
I
am
pleading
with
y'all
to
be
mindful
of
what
you're
doing
here
and
what
signals
this
is
sending
to
the
community
the
whole
community.
This
is
a
warning.
I'm
warning
everybody
here
about.
What's
going
to
happen,.
H
F
F
The
only
issue
that
you
have
right
now
is
the
fact
that
park
is
there,
I'm
just
suggesting
let's
take
that
out
and
move
forward,
but
I
think
you
have
problems
with
not
just
hark,
but
the
fact
that
whoever
this
entity
is
will
have
these
powers,
be
it
our
legal
department,
be
community
planning
and
development,
the
urban
league,
whoever,
I
think
so
I
all
I'm
saying
is
before
we
get
this
to
the
body
behold,
let's
just
amend
it,
take
all
references
to
hark
out
of
it
and
put
our
legal
department.
There.
C
J
C
J
B
D
A
C
J
F
Council
now,
I'm
just
I'm
doing
make
sure
councilman
to
pay
we've
been
here
before
councilman.
Remember,
pal,
okay,
we're
making
this
change.
That's
only
changed.
Okay,
based
upon
your
concern,
okay
and
hark
does
not
need
to
be
mentioned
in
this
discussion
when
this
goes
before
the
body
of
a
whole.
Just
so
that
we're
clear,
okay.