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City of Charleston Committee on Public Safety 12/14/2020
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B
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B
D
B
B
A
B
E
B
F
B
G
H
H
We
do
have
a
few
other
issues
on
the
exterior,
though,
that
we
are
waiting
on
finishing
painting
of
the
tower.
They
still
need
to
regrade
for
positive
drainage
that
we
commented
on
last
time.
We
have
not
seen
the
landscaper,
and
I
have
asked
from
update
from
will
as
of
this
afternoon
and
still
have
not
received
it.
H
So
we
we
do
have
some
big
issues
that
are
still
outstanding,
but
they
are
working
towards
verbs,
making
some
positive
progress
in
the
interior.
We
have
smaller
issues
that
are
being
addressed,
punch
list
for
the
painting,
drywall
the
base
and
touching
up
some
of
the
cabinetry
is
occurring
right
now,
as
well
as
some
of
the
electrical
work.
That's
just
again,
maybe
a
light
switch
here
and
they
are
not
functioning
properly.
H
We
are
moving
forward
with
a
product
that
is
a
flex
system.
It
is
a
resinous
flooring
that
is
applied
with
an
applicator
in
a
not
really
a
paint
on,
but
it's
more
of
a
squeegeone
product
that
then
has
several
surface
sealants
on
it
as
well
as
again
kind
of
like
the
garage
fleck
that
you'll
see
that
will
help
cover
up
a
lot
of
the
patches
and
discolorations
that
were
in
the
concrete.
H
B
B
Are
also
not
just
a
matter
of
they're,
not
looking
nice,
it's
also
another
issue
dealing
with
with
the
building
and
the
whether
or
not
they
can
inhabit
it
and
have
the
building
as
well.
So
none
of
these
are
small
ticket
items.
They
may
be
price
loss
to
some
extent,
but
they
really
are
serious
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed.
B
K
K
K
K
I
I
must
say
that
I
agree
completely
with
robert
bear's
article
about
this
this
facility.
Yesterday,
in
yesterday's
paper,
it
really
makes
a
statement
for
our
department
for
our
city
for
west
ashley.
It's
we've
got
these
kinks
to
work
out
and
beth
are
doing
a
great
job,
but
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
building.
We're
all
going
to
be
proud
of.
Thank
you.
Beth.
B
Yes,
I
just
want
to
echo
the
mayor's
comments
on
that
as
well.
You've
really
been
on
on
top
of
this
game
for
us,
the
mayor
and
I
took
a
tour
of
the
last
week
of
the
new
training
facility,
and
it
really
these
two
projects
unless
actually
are
top-notch
projects
and
the
folks
who
have
been
engaged
with
the
development
of
that
is
something
we
need
to
be
very
proud
of
and
excited
about.
So
a
lot
of
good
things
happen
over
the
west
actually
from
the
public
safety
side.
B
F
B
B
Committee
members,
any
questions
about
the
legal
standpoint,
otherwise
I
don't
see
we
need
to
go
into
an
executive
session,
okay,
based
on
your
muteness,
we
will
finish
up
with
that
back
again.
Thank
you
for
that
update
jared
thanks
for
being
available
the
rest
of
the
team.
Thank
you
all
for
being
around
and
we'll
just
get
an
update
in
about
a
month's
time
on
this
issue.
Okay,
thank.
B
There
was
a
federal
case
that
came
out
regarding
the
city
about
restricting
the
size
of
cormex,
so
susan,
if
I
could
put
you
on
the
spot
a
little
bit
and
sort
of
give
us
a
quick
primer
on
that
issue.
For
us
about
permitting
and
shift,
I
may
ask
you
to
sort
of
chime
in
after
susan
gives
us
a
little
update
on
that.
Okay,.
F
Yes,
sir,
so
I'm
just
gonna
give
a
little
bit
of
a
background
in
my
understanding
of
what
you
were
looking
for
today
and
then
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
steve
rumlin
who's,
who
has
probably
the
most
recent
experience
with
our
permitting
process.
But
yes,
you're
right,
just
as
a
first
of
all,
the
only
thing
we're
gonna
be
talking
about
today
are
permits
that
are
issued
by
the
police
department
in
connection
with
protests
demonstrations,
things
of
that
matter.
F
You
know
we
have
another
permitting
process
for
special
events
which
are
more
in
tune
with.
You
know,
food
and
wine
and
seaweed
and
those
things.
So
it
was
my
understanding
that
we
would
just
be
talking
about
those
ordinances
dealing
with
the
police
permitting
situation.
You're
correct
is
that
right,
yeah,
okay
and
you
are
correct.
There
was
a
case
a
number
of
years
ago.
F
Actually,
even
before
I
came
to
the
city
and
where
the
city
police
department's
parade
permitting
system
was
struck
down
by
judge
norton
in
federal
court,
because
the
number
of
participants
in
a
protest
that
triggered
the
permit
process
was
very
low,
and
I
can't
remember
exactly
the
number,
but
it
was.
It
was
very,
very
few
under
under
10.
L
19-3,
which
talks
about
the
standards
of
ish
for
issuance-
and
these
are
the
considerations
that
the
the
chief
looks
at
in
deciding
whether
to
issue
the
permit
and
that's
whether
the
conduct
of
the
parade
and
when
I
say
parade
the
definition
of
a
parade,
includes
a
protest
or
a
demonstration.
So
I
know
a
lot
of
people
think
of
parades
as
a
procession
down
the
street.
This
also
includes
stationary
demonstrations
and
protests
by
definition,
under
our
ordinance,
conduct
of
the
parade
will
substantially
interrupt.
The
safe
and
orderly
movement
of
traffic
require
diversion
of
police
officers.
L
If
a
permit
is
denied,
there
is
an
appeal
process
that
actually
goes
to
city
council
for
consideration,
and
there
also
is
a
provision
that
provides
for
an
alternate.
So
if,
on
a
particular
weekend,
some
group
wants
to
have
a
demonstration
in
a
particular
area,
but
there's
already
another
group
that
is
occupying
that
area,
the
police
will
offer
well,
you
can't
do
it
on
that
weekend,
but
you
could
do
it
on
the
next
weekend
or
a
month
from
now
or
something
so.
L
Is
he
or
someone
from
his
unit
will
reach
out
to
someone
who
has
submitted
an
application
and
kind
of
go
over?
What
the
expectations
are?
What
the
group
is
planning
to
do
and
how
the
police
can
accommodate
that,
while
still
ensuring
the
safety
of
the
public
and
as
little
disruption
to
services
as
possible,
and
then
that's
all
put
in
writing
in
a
permit
which
the
organizer
is
supposed
to
have
with
them.
And
then
the
department
is
made
aware
of
the
event,
so
officers
know
about
it
and
can
and
can
address
it
accordingly.
L
B
This
may
be
a
good
stage
way
for
you,
chief,
but
the
idea
of
the
permitting
process
is,
we
know
who
the
folks
are.
We
have
a
contact
contact
person
to
go
to
the
issues
arise,
and
so
we
do
encourage
the
permitting
part
of
all
this
so
that
we
know
who
we're
dealing
with
and
who
to
have
contact
with
in
case
there's
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed
so
with
that
chief
I'll
sort
of
turn.
This
back
over
to
you
with
any
comments
or
suggestions.
M
D
So,
mr
chairman,
just
very
briefly,
if
you
don't
mind,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
chief
and
staff
for
keeping
us
informed
as
the
applications
that
are
coming
through
and
all
the
parades
and
and
protests
everything
else.
It's
been
very,
very
helpful
to
at
least
give
people
some
advance
notice
of
what's
going
on,
so
I
think
the
permitting
process
is
one
thing:
just
keeping
information
flowing
between
what
you
all
know
through
permitting
and
others
and
getting
it
into
the
community
has
been
a
bonus.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
K
Well,
I
do
think
councilmember
saccharin
makes
good
a
good
point
chief,
and
I
happen
to
be
on
that
central
business
district
list
distribution
list
as
council
members
seekings
is-
and
so
I
think,
it'd
be
fine
chief
if
we
just
include
all
of
council
on
that
distribution
that
we
send
out
every
friday
that
that
lists
all
the
permit
applications
that
have
been
approved
for
the
weekend
or
anytime
for
that
matter.
So,
let's,
let's
include
everybody
on
that
email
and-
and
mr
chairman,
I
I
did.
K
We
kind
of
shut
down
and
we
obviously
learned
that
we
needed
to
get
back
in
business
of
the
police
department
issuing
these
permits
and
monitoring
them,
because
it
was
very
helpful.
Having
communication
with
whatever
group
was
wanting
to
gather
and
express
themselves
in
our
city,
we
we
certainly
allow
that
and
it's
constitutional
right,
but
it's
it's
very
helpful
for
us
to
have
that
communication
going
with
the
organizers
of
these
events,
and
since
we
got
the
permit
process
going
again
when
was
that
achieved
back
in
mid-june,
I
think
it
was.
K
B
C
K
B
N
N
Obviously,
my
my
inspiration
about
this
was
the
events
of
saturday
december
5th,
and
maybe
in
using
that
as
sort
of
a
case
study.
I
I
know
that
we
cannot,
you
know,
evaluate
based
on
our
own
values,
the
first
amendment
content
that
might
be
out
there
in
public
with
people
who
want
to
gather
under
some
sort
of
permitting
rule.
N
But
I
I
don't.
I
also
don't
know.
To
what
extent
are
we
able
to
refuse
to
give
a
permit
to
a
group
that
that
basically
layers
on
to
itself
another
group?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
control
what
actually
happens
when
we're
we're,
given
a
permit
request
by
some
couple
of
local
residents
who
have
a
group
in
their
that
they've
named
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
were
were
inundated
by
by
people
that
we
would
not
choose
to
invite
into
our
community
streets
for
the
kinds
of
activities
that
they
were
perpetuating
on
december
5th?
N
We
can't
predict
happen
ahead
of
time
if
people
are
submitting
a
piece
of
paper,
that's
the
permit,
but
I
do
think
that
you
know
we're
we're,
also
very
cognizant
of
groups
that
are
forming
in
this
era.
Current
polarizing
events
that
we
do
not
want
to
have
the
potential
of
any
sort
of
violence
or
confrontation
that
could
have
occurred
if
the
police
hadn't
been
called
out
that
day.
So
that's
you
know
I.
N
F
B
Have
other
folks
joining
in
the
original
permit?
Who
were
not
part
of
that
application
process,
or
you
may
have
folks
who
we
sometimes
just
label
as
being
counter
protesters
counter
rattles?
They
may
not
have
gotten
a
permit,
but
they're
coming
out
in
response
to
know.
Group
b
shows
up
because
groups
a
showed
up
and
they
want
to
show
their
support
as
a
counter.
B
M
It's
kind
of
all
the
above
and
I'll,
actually
call
on
the
lieutenant
bradley
who's
on
the
call,
just
briefly
between
george
and
steve.
They
can
talk
about
this,
but
what
you're
articulating
is
our
challenge
in
2020,
really
almost
since
may
every
weekend
throughout
the
week.
These
are
all
great
questions.
There's
no
simple
way:
we,
it
goes
back
to
what
steve
covered.
Here's
the
it
has
to
be
consistent.
M
M
If
there's
only
a
few
people,
they're
not
required
to
have
a
permit,
as
susan
said
earlier,
if
there's
a
certain
number
of
them
and
they're
over
that
number,
which
requires
a
permit
and
they
choose
not
to
get
a
permit,
then
we
do
enforcement.
It
will
cite
a
person
who's,
leading
that
effort,
and
we've
cited
many
people
this
year
and
we
don't
pick
and
choose
who
we're
going
to
cite.
We
don't
pick
and
choose
who
gets
the
permit.
M
J
B
J
You're
exactly
right,
I
mean
we.
We
try
to
make
these
permits
to
where
we
can
have
interaction,
communication
not
only
up
until
the
point
of
getting
that
permit,
but
through
the
process
and
the
event
itself,
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
can
make
it
safe
for
everybody
that
there-
and
that
is
our
number
one
goal-
is
just
making
sure
that
everybody
can
can
have
their
first
amendment
rights,
their
freedom
to
assemble
and
make
sure
that
everybody
can
do
it
safely.
L
And
I'll
just
add
one
thing
there:
there
is
in
the
ordinance
a
provision
that
allows
the
police
to
revoke
a
permit
where
the
conditions
of
the
permit
are
violated.
So
if
you
get
in
a
situation
where
you
have
issued
a
permit
and
the
permit
holder
is
not
following
the
conditions
of
the
permit,
you
can
break
that
assembly
up
and,
of
course,
any
other
laws
that
we
have
in
the
city
or
the
state
are
certainly
applicable
throughout
the
course
of
any
kind
of
demonstration.
B
B
Okay.
I
I
just
think
that
exactly
what
the
mayor
has
said,
these
things
are
really
very
defined
for
the
public
safety
officials
that,
in
the
particular
19
environment
that
they're
in
and
we
do
have
to
protect
first
amendment
right
to
speech
and
assemble
along
the
same
time.
We
need
to
protect
our
citizens,
our
community,
and
for
these
things
not
to
be
disruptive,
that's
the
concern.
I
think
we
all
have
with
this
and
then
the
counter
protest
is.
B
B
I
I
related
to
telstra
jackson,
one
of
our
conversations
several
years
ago
with
sea
portals
two
prior
predecessors,
that
the
city
permitted
a
ku
klux
klan
while
and
there
was
a
photograph
taken
of
chief
greenberg
standing
in
the
face
of
the
the
grand
dragon
fella,
and
it
was
just
you
know
you
can
come
here
because
the
law
makes
me
have
you
here,
but
you're
in
my
town
and
you're
gonna-
abide
by
the
law.
It
was.
F
B
We
balanced
that
out
and
that's
that's
part
of
our
constitutional
rights,
obviously,
but
we
do
need
to
make
sure
our
community
is
safe
and
protected
with
all
of
us,
and
I
appreciate
the
discussion
on
it.
Thank
you
for
bringing
it
back
to
our
attention.
I
think
the
community
just
needs
to
know
what
our
rules
and
restrictions
are,
that
we
need
to
enforce
and
make
sure
our
community
is
safe
and
all
right.
So
all
of
you
all
thank
you
for
your
comments
and
team.
B
B
B
L
B
M
Yeah
I
had
a
brief
conversation
with
councilmember
sheila
earlier
today
about
this
and
I'll
just
say.
Just
generally
to
me,
it's
important
to
explore
partnerships
with
the
research
community.
One
of
the
things
that
make
us
a
better
agency
is
blending
between
the
researchers
and
the
practitioners
and
looking
for
evidence-based
practices.
Hate
crime
obviously
is
a
significant
issue.
It's
something
that's
very
important
to
our
communities
and
the
more
that
we
can
explore
these
partnerships
just
in
general,
the
better.
M
M
The
idea
is
good
and
then
usually
you
have
more
opportunity
to
kind
of
look
more
closely
at
what
you're
willing
you
can
kind
of
negotiate
what
your
commitment
levels
are.
There's
no
fiscal
impact.
One
of
the
concerns
would
be.
Does
this
take
away
from
what
we're
doing,
obviously
right
now
fighting
things
like
violent
crime
and
the
safety
in
our
communities
of
paramount
importance?
M
E
Said
to
us
and
she
received
us
yeah.
Well,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
yeah.
He
he
answered
the
question
that
I
had.
I
just
you
know
I
was
just
wondering
how
time
consuming
this
is
going
to
be.
Is
it
going
to
pull
us
away
from
you
know,
doing
other
jobs,
I
guess,
and
if
it's
valuable
to
the
chief
and
everyone,
then
I'm
certainly
for
it.
You
know.
Thank
you.
I
B
L
Right
so
we
have
a
in-house
full-time,
professional
mental
health
counselor
that
works
with
our
families
that
are
involved
in
cases
of
domestic
violence,
the
victims
of
domestic
violence-
and
this
is
a
person
we've
had
here,
at
least
as
long
as
I've
been
here.
I
think
it
started
in
2016.,
so
this
is
just
basically
a
renewal
of
that
contract.
We
had
been
doing
it
by
different
amendments,
but
now
we've
run
out
of
amendments,
so
this
is
just
a
reiteration
of
the
old
contract
and
it's
at
a
cost
of
twenty
thousand
dollars
per
year.
L
Basically,
it's
it's
kind
of
both
it's
basically
renewing,
but
the
price
hasn't
changed
that
we're
paying
for
the
counselor
and
the
basic
the
duties
that
the
counselor
performs.
Hadn't
hasn't
changed
if
there
may
be
some
some
different
wording
in
there.
That's
a
possibility,
but
the
gist
of
it
remains
the
same
from
the
previous
four
to
five
years.
B
A
M
M
M
So
I
think
this
is
an
area
where
we
have
partnership
with
mental
health
professionals
that
are
doing
jobs.
That
are,
I
think,
yielding
good
outcomes.
There
are
things
that
we
need
to
be
talking,
probably
more
about,
and
so
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
I
would
welcome
that
and
we'll
be
ready,
we'll
put
that
on
the
agenda
for
next
time.
B
I
think
we're
saying
councilman
that
the
number
of
cases
with
cbd
I
think
across
the
county
has
have
increased,
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
related
to
october
19
or
enough,
there
are
more
that
I've.
I've
noticed
than
creeps
overnight
here
so
glad
to
have
these
professionals.
They
do
add
a
lot
to
the
community
into
the
victims.
B
One
of
the
things
that
the
general
assembly
did
on
the
cbd
statute
is
the
opportunity
if
a
minor
is
present
or
perceived
the
abuse,
the
verbal
or
the
physical
component
of
that
so
having
a
professional
deal
with
minor
children
who
are
maybe
not
the
target
of
the
cbd
but
involved
by
their
presence,
does
have
an
impact
on
all
that.
So
support
that
address
that
issue
with
you
as
well.
Mr
man,
do
you
have
something?
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
mean
to
cut
you
off.
Yes,
sir,
mr
mayor.
K
K
F
B
No
ma'am,
we
didn't
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
allies.
Had
it
all
right,
thanks
for
keeping
me
straight
bethany
all
right
item
number:
seven
is
the
agreement
with
the
daniel
allen,
town
association
and
cpd
about
white
suicide
reading
and
who's
going
to
take
it
all
for
us
today.
L
I
have
that-
and
this
is
basically
the
daniel
island
town
association
has
agreed
to
pay
for
the
installation
and
the
lease
payments
for
two
years
for
three
automatic
license
plate
readers
on
daniel
island
and
then,
after
that
period
of
time,
we
would
take
over
the
lease
for
an
additional
two
years,
provided
we're
satisfied
with
the
service
and
the
information
we're
receiving
from
those
license
plate.
Readers
is
beneficial
to
the
department.
L
J
M
C
C
B
Well,
thank
you
for
your
work
on
that
and
bringing
it
to
our
attention
yeah
and
we
we
do
have
an
opt-out
provision.
This
thing
is
not
working
the
way
we
think
it's
supposed
to
work.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
constitution
on
that,
so
I
think
that's
important
to
know
and
appreciate
the
your
association
picking
up
the
time
for
the
first
half
of
us.
Thank
you
for
the
thing
you
want
to
add
to
this.
M
M
If
you
look
at
the
amount
of
growth
that
has
occurred
in
that
area,
daniel
island,
clements,
ferry
road
is
just
exploding
and
we're
we
can't,
we
don't
have
the
staff
and
facilities
and
all
the
other
things
to
to
have
an
ideal
presence
in
all
the
areas
that
we
want.
So
we
have
to
utilize
certain
things
to
help
us,
like
marie
just
said,
with
our
investigations
and
other
things,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
thankful
for
it.
M
E
B
B
I
Sure
so,
basically,
this
is
an
agreement
to
work
with
dr
jeff
alpert
of
the
university
of
south
carolina
and
some
of
his
associates.
Dr
albert
is
an
expert
in
use
of
force
and
has
also
done
research
in
traffic
stops,
and
so
the
way
this
works
with
these
universities
is
we're
basically
buying
out
a
class.
I
I
B
M
I'm
not
sure
if
he
was
in
that
process,
but
he
has.
He
has
a
footprint
in
the
industry,
which
is
substantial.
Probably
one
of
the
most
renowned
respected
criminologists
in
the
country
does
work
internationally
nationally
he's
written
a
book
actually
just
recently
he's
written
many
many
books,
but
he
just
recently
released
the
book
on
use
of
force
and
these
types
of
investigations
we're
very
fortunate
that
he's
out
of
colombia
and
and
is
available
and
has
an
interest
in
helping
us.
M
I
think
he
has
an
affinity
for
the
city
of
charleston
in
this
region
and
the
state
and
has
a
lot
of
involvement
in
a
lot
of
things
and
very
independent
and
very
interested
in
looking
at
our
data.
This
is
no
small
thing
in
terms
of
the
audit.
I
think
it's
worth
mentioning
if
you
look
at
the
last
page
functions
to
be
performed
related
to
the
audit
traffic
enforcement
and
data
collection,
use,
of
course,
reporting
data
collection,
body-worn,
camera
compliance,
auditing
compliance,
internal
investigation
management,
recruitment
and
hiring.
M
B
Okay,
so
it
sounds
like
these
two
items.
Item
number
eight
and
item
number
number:
five
are
going
to
be
a
huge
benefit
for
the
police
department
as
those
projects
get
about
on
and
off
the
ground.
So
it
sort
of
ties
in
together
with
hank
looking
at
that
and
then
part
of
our
racial
bias
audit
as
well.
E
B
Any
opposed
the
eyes
haven't
appreciate
that
very
much.
Thank
you
all
of
you
for
your
work
on
that.
The
involvement
that
we
have
on
there
and
some
really
positive
things
that
we've
been
doing
to
close
out
this
calendar
year
on
our
public
safety
committee.
I
just
want
to
this-
will
be
our
last
reading
of
the
calendar
year.
I
just
want
to
go
back
and.
J
B
I
think
captain
thompson
is
involved
with
the
final
preparations
for
that
report,
so
the
program
will
have
a
update
about
the
final
conclusion,
but
it
was
an
update
at
a
january
reading
and
dealing
with
the
after
action
report
of
may
30th.
I
think
we're
all
anxious
to
get
that
that
final
after-action
report
being
completed
with
the
input
from
our
community.
On
that
I
just
want
to
thank
the
committee.
They
have
been
very
patient
with
me.
B
We've
been
working
very
hard
on
a
lot
of
extremely
important
issues,
and
so
thank
you
all
for
doing
that.
This
has
been
a
very
eventful
year,
not
exactly
what
we
intended
when
we
started
off,
but
y'all's
commitment
to
this
has
been
very
important
to
the
citizens.
I
think
it's
very
important
to
our
council
that
they
hear
from
us
on
on
these
participations.
B
J
M
F
B
D
Well,
I
just
have
a
comment.
I
went
back
and
looked
at
the
code
and
I
don't
think
this
is
part
of
the
public
safety
committee's
purview.
I
think
if
council
wants
to
adopt
certain
codes
of
conduct
for
council,
we
can
do
it.
I
think
boards
and
commissions,
which
are
generally
appointed
by
the
mayor
would
fall
under
his
purview
with
the
advice
and
consent
of
council,
but
in
looking
at
the
code
and
what
we
are,
what
we
have
responsibility
over.
B
D
Can
I
have
a
brief
moment
to
follow
up
on
that,
just
because
this
is
probably
our
last
public
safety
committee
meeting
of
the
year
one
of
the
things
that
may
be
under
the
purview
of
this
committee.
But
if
it's
not,
I
think
because
we've
got
the
police
chief
here
should
be
something
that
brought
their
attention.
I
think
the
mayor
probably
is
going
to
share
interest
in
this.
D
K
Well,
thank
you.
I'm
happy
to
address
that
when
I
first
heard
the
news
about
it,
attempts
member,
in
fact
I
called
the
county
and
advocated
for
the
restaurant,
because,
as
we've
all
agreed
in
the
last
months,
we
want
to
encourage
more
outdoor,
dining,
it's
safer.
It's
it's
helping
our
restaurant
businesses.
K
M
K
Read
in
the
paper
and-
and
mr
tooten
told
me
that
they
had
some
public
safety
concerns,
I
think
chief
reynolds,
if
he
hasn't
done
so
already,
we'll
be
checking
with
the
county
to
to
verify
what
those
concerns
are.
In
the
meantime,
we've
reached
out
to
the
ownership
of
the
restaurant
and
let
them
know
in
fact,
I
sent
meg
thompson
over
there
to
facilitate
their
full
utilization
of
of
of
the
broad
street
sidewalk,
which
is
our
right-of-way.
As
long
as
there
aren't
any
public
safety
concerns.
K
The
the
neighbor
next
door
has
a
little
wider
sidewalk.
The
duffy's
and
I
think,
councilmember
seeking's
in
the
next
property
is,
is
yours
still,
so
I
think
all
the
adjacent
property
owners
are
very
willing
to
let
the
restaurant
utilize
more
the
sidewalk
and
if
they
ultimately
lose
their
space
back
on
with
the
county,
we're
going
to
make
every
accommodation
we
can
to
expand
them
on
the
broad
street
side.
D
Well,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
It
just
seems
to
me
that
the
county,
announcing,
probably
it's
a
public
safety
concern,
but
not
elucidating
and
enumerating
what
those
concerns
are,
would
seem
to
me.
We
would
have
a
shared
interest
in
what
that
was
before.
We
could
sort
of
decide
whether
we
thought
they
were
making
a
wise
or
not
a
wise
decision.
B
B
Popular
at
night
on
council
on
the
secrets,
when
I
leave
my
office,
it
seems
to
be
a
healthy
crowd
of
folks,
a
hundred,
and
it
seems
like
a
just
a
natural
extension
of
what
they
would
want
to
do
this
open
area.
If
the
courthouse
is
closed
by
the
time
they're
out
there
in
any
numbers,
there's
a
whole
lot.
J
B
J
B
B
All
right:
well,
I've
got
you
a
lot
here
and
right
about
an
hour.
We
cover
a
lot
of
ground
again.
Thank
you
committee
members
and
thank
you
guests
at
councilman
jackson,
council
of
the
chopper
for
joining
us
this
afternoon,
and
I
will
join
the
meeting
and
see
a
handful
of
you
guys
at
real
estate.
In
about
30
minutes.
There
will
be
no
questions.
We
are.