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City of Charleston Committee on Public Safety 8/11/20
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I
need
a
second
somebody
I'll
second,
that
okay,
any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
hi
many
opposed
eyes
have
it,
so
the
minutes
are
approved
as
written
and
we'll
call
on
chief
courier
and
jason
konsberg
to
give
us
an
update
on
fire
stations,
number
eight
and
number
11..
So
chief,
you
want
to
kick
that
off
or
yeah.
G
Certainly
good
afternoon
everybody
so
with
the
with
the
updates,
I
think
the
the
detail,
work
about
the
the
renovations
and
repairs
and
whatnot
would
fall
to
jason,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
fire
station
8
on
hugey
street-
I
think
I
may
have
mentioned
it
before.
We
have
a
significant
roof
issue.
That
parks
made
us
aware
of
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
while
it's
serious,
the
guidance
from
parks
was
for
us
to
make
plans
to
vacate
the
building
so
that
they
can
get
in.
G
They
can
determine
the
extent
of
the
damage,
and
then
we
can
come
up
with
a
longer
range
plan
for
either
repair
or
just
vacating,
the
firehouse
until
it
gets
renovated.
The
complicating
factor
for
us
is
that
fire
station
six
on
canon
street
is
already
vacant
undergoing
a
total
renovation,
so
that
puts
neighboring
fire
districts
without
primary
fire
coverage
in
the
district
and
from
the
fire
department's
perspective.
G
That's
that's
a
pretty
serious
issue
so
to
address
that,
we
became
aware
that
charleston
county
ems
has
a
facility
that
they
rent
at
musc
it's
in
the
parking
garage
and
as
they
change
their
deployment
model
over
the
last.
Several
months
the
facility
is
currently
vacant,
so
we
approached
charleston
county
ems
about
potentially
renting
that
facility.
G
A
G
I
think
that's
that's
the
great
unknown
and
jason
can
probably
elaborate
more
on
that.
Our
hope.
The
fire
department's
hope
is
that
we
can
move
the
fire
company
out
of
hugey
street
for
a
couple
of
weeks,
but
parks
and
whatever
experts
need
to
be
in
there.
Let
them
get
in
to
have
a
look
and
if
we
can
do
some
kind
of
a
repair
that
will
get
us
through
to
the
first
or
second
quarter
of
next
year,
when
cannon
street
opens
up
again,
we
can
shuffle
the
deck.
G
H
H
H
Roof
goes
through
a
gutter
downspout
through
the
building,
so
there
were
some
leak
issues.
We
knew
there
were
some
leak
issues
and
over
time
there
were
some
some
temporary
fixes
that
were
made
the
leak
kind
of
got
a
little
bit
worse
so
about
a
month
or
maybe,
two
months
ago,
we
climbed
up
in
the
roof.
First
of
all,
we
found
a
ball
in
the
drain
that
was
blocking
the
drain,
but
you
have
to
climb
up
through
a
closet
through
a
porthole
and
kind
of
shimmy
back
around
to
see
where
this
damage
is.
H
What
we
found
was
some
some
some
old
termite
damage
some
actually
some
dead
termites,
but
we
don't
think
they
were
active,
but
they
were
floating
around
us,
some
water
up
there
and
some
significant
rot.
So
these
unreinforced
masonry
buildings,
the
roof,
is
actually
supported
by
these
unreinforced
walls.
H
The
rot
was
so
severe
back
there
that
that
roof
was
really
not
being
held
up
by
anything.
So
the
plan
right
now
is
working
with
the
fire
department
as
soon
as
they're
able
to
get
out
of
the
building
for
a
short
term
to
start
is
to
have
an
abatement
contractor
or
some
abatement
specialist
come
in
work
with
us,
get
rid
of
the
lead
and
asbestos
material.
H
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G
Yes,
sir,
their
their
facility
is
set
up,
for
it's
basically
set
up
like
a
firehouse
where
they
expected
to
have
24-hour
ems
crews
staying
in
there.
So
there's,
there's
kitchen,
there's
a
dormitory
area
adequate
room
for
our
apparatus.
It's
basically
like
a
smaller
fire
house
and
then
charleston
county
ems
switched
their
deployment
model
to
12-hour
ships
which
negated
the
need
for
a
24-hour
facility.
A
Anybody
any
other
council
members
have
a
question
or
any
for
the
comment.
So
it
looks
like
what
we'll
just
have
to
do
is
wait
and
see
what
the
assassin
just
looks
like
if
we
can
literally
put
a
band-aid
on
this
building.
I
my
guess
was
jason,
as
you
were
talking
that
I
had
an
idea
that
the
building
was
at
least
100
years
old.
I've
been
by
the
gazillion
times,
and
it
looks
like
one
of
those
old-fashioned
firehouses
that
I'm
sure
was
built
in
the
early
part
of
the
20th
century.
A
H
H
H
Those
are
kind
of
you
know
all
relate
to
getting
through
the
the
fema
and
the
south
carolina
emergency
management
division
grant
process,
but
we've
presented
the
plans
to
the
fire
department
and
the
mayor,
leolios
the
design
team
and
they're
doing
a
great
job.
So
basically,
what
happens
then?
Is
the
entire
roof
comes
off
and
an
entire
new
building
gets
built
inside
of
that
facility.
A
H
H
He
provided
another
schedule
with
a
late
august,
substantial
completion.
We
are
not
confident
in
that
date,
knowing
that
he
actually
indicated
an
august
18th
date.
Well,
I
went
out
there
today
did
another
walk
through
there's
a
lot
of
work
still
to
be
done,
mostly
site
work,
paving
the
finish
surface,
a
lot
of
curb
work,
a
lot
of
sidewalk
work,
some
minor
landscaping
and
then
a
lot
of
interior
punch
list
type
work.
They
are
currently
working
on
their
own
punch
list.
H
Once
we
get
the
contractor's
request
to
perform
our
punch
list,
we
will
walk
through
and
do
the
punch
list
and
that
will
probably
be
about
a
week
and
then
the
contractor
by
contract
has
14
days
to
remedy
any
punch
list
items
that
have
been
that
have
been
noted
in
our
punch
list.
I
know
at
the
meeting
two
council
meetings
ago.
There
was
a
request
for
where
we
are
in
the
contract,
liquidated
damages
and
and
what
fees
we
anticipated
are
damages.
H
H
I'm
I
mean
mid,
it's
hot,
you
know
I
I
talked
to
the
contractor
today
and
I
and
I
and
I
explained
to
him.
I
was
like
listen
every
time
we
give
an
update
on
this
thing.
We
give
him
a
date
and
then
the
following
update.
We
give
them
a
new
date,
and
you
know
he
says
I
all
I
can
give
you
now
is.
It
are
excuses
that
aren't
going
to
amount
to
anything
again.
He
said
the
18th
was
substantial
completion.
H
You
know,
there's
still
a
couple
more
weeks
worth
of
work,
I'm
thinking
end
of
september
here
you
know
it's
close
and
it's
just
lots
of
that
last
15
percent
or
that
last
10
percent.
If
you're
really
good,
you
knock
it
out,
but
right
now
we're
struggling
with
it.
You
know
getting
everything
done.
I'll
say
that
you
know
walking
through
the
facility.
It's
beautiful,
it's
very
nice,
but
there's
you
know
all
the
little
dings
and
scratches
that
still
need
to
be
fixed.
A
H
Correct
we're
we're
still
holding
over
a
million
dollars
right
now
and
they're
they're
about
228
days
into
liquidated,
damages
at
1200
per
day.
So
in
the
retainage
you
know
we're
fully
covering
ourselves
on
with
any
damages
that
we're
experiencing,
whether
it's
professional
service
fees
from
our
design,
team
and
or
the
rent
we're
currently
paying
beyond
the
december
the
original
december
substantial
completion
date.
So
we're
fully
covered
in
in
our
our
damages
in
our
retainage.
A
A
Okay,
well
we're
this
far
along
and
we're
very
close.
80
percent
does
not
seem
like
a
lot,
but
I
think
we
got
the
the
interior
work
mostly
done,
which
you
just
mentioned.
Some
landscape
and
site
work
needs
to
be
completed
until
we
get
our
co
so
we'll
you
know
our
next
meeting
within
them
in
september
early
part
of
september,
we'll
have
another
update
and
see
where
we
are
just
keep
on.
I
think
we
got
to
keep
our
foot
on
the
accelerator
with
these
guys.
H
G
But
then,
when
we
turn
around
and
have
to
order
the
furniture
again
once
we
are
confident
that
the
firehouse
is
going
to
be
complete,
there's
going
to
be
those
delays
just
getting
beds
and
sofas
and
stuff
into
charleston.
So
I
think
that's
that's
going
to
be
a
logistical
issue
that
we
have
to
deal
with
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
A
A
I
did
want
to
get
an
update.
I
know
we
had
sort
of
a
I
hate
to
say
a
dry
line,
but
a
practice
run
with
the
the
strollers
name.
I
cannot
pronounce
properly.
Thank
you.
I
don't
know
so,
chief
reynolds
or
chief
cory.
Anything
you
all
want
to
add
on
on
that
part
of
it,
and
maybe
next
meeting
we'll
have
a
better
making
sure
we
get
everybody
on
board
to
give
us
an
update
on
how
we
came
from
parents.
J
Mr
chairman,
if
I
may
yes,
sir,
I
apologize
if
shannon's
calf
would
normally,
I
think,
make
a
response
here.
I
don't
I
talked
to
him
earlier
today.
I
know
he's
on
duty,
but
maybe
he
didn't
get
the
message
to
be
a
part
of
the
meeting.
I
didn't
ask
him
so
could
could
I
just
request
she
come
back
to
your
next
meeting.
A
E
I
think-
and
I
and
I'll
reach
out
to
the
council
people
here
in
the
mayor
about
the
biggest
the
biggest
concern
I
have,
I
guess,
or
what
I'm
seeing
out
there
or
and
I'll
give
examples
like
a
tour
guide,
not
reinforcing
to
the
the
the
guests
that
you
know
this.
This
mask
ordinance
is
mandatory
and
it's
it's
important
and
so
I've
reached
out
to
the
tourism
committee
or
the
tour
guide
association.
E
And
if,
if
you
have
contacts
in
the
restaurants
or
the
cbb,
I
know
we've
contacted
before,
but
we
need
to
reinforce
it
because
I
think
if
people
are
shopping
in
the
stores
on
king
street
and
it's
reinforced
to
them
by
the
shop
owners,
I
guess
long.
The
short
is,
we
need
their
help
to
make
this
work,
and
I'm
really
not
seeing
a
lot
of
that.
So
far,
the
more
we
can
hit
home
with
that
with
with
the
people
that
are
serving
the
patrons
and
tourists,
it
could
really
help
us.
E
E
A
G
A
This
is
a
mandatory
face
covering
ordinance
if
you're,
if
you're
in
the
public
domain,
if
you're
walking
the
streets
of
charleston
with
a
few
exceptions,
you
must
wear
your
your
mask.
If
you're
at
a
restaurant
or
retail
establishment
or
a
hotel,
you
must
wear
a
mask,
and
that
includes
employees
as
well.
If
you're
riding
on
a
back
of
a
carriage
on
a
tour,
you
must
wear
a
mask
and
that
it
really
is
just
that
simple,
and
I
know
we've
tried
to
simplify
this
as
the
prior
ordinance
that
we
had.
A
This
was
an
amendment
to
the
prior
ordinance.
We
got
rid
of
the
six
feet
kind
of
rules
on
here,
if
you're
in
the
public
domain,
some
exceptions
to
religious
beliefs
and
some
exceptions
to
health
issues,
but
it's
been
coming
up
on
all
of
us
to
make
sure.
I
know
that
in
the
paper
this
morning
our
numbers
have
dropped
a
little
bit
with
the
number
of
positive
cases,
which
was
good.
A
Charleston
county
is
not
in
the
top
tier
of
cases
being
reported,
hopefully
that
we
can
account
to
some
of
this
enforcement
in
ordinances
being
passed,
to
contribute
to
those
numbers
being
down.
More
awareness
is
always
important
and
I
think
the
goal
of
all
this.
I
want
to
reiterate
this.
The
goal
of
this
ordinance
is
to
educate
our
our
citizens
and
our
visitors
to
please
wear
this
mask
to
the
benefit
of
our
community.
A
So
thank
you
for
your
work.
I
know
this
is
difficult
and
going
up
to
people
and
telling
the
weather
mass
and
then
you're
getting
some
pushback
on
that.
So
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
with
that
chief
runs.
You
and
I've
had
some
limited
conversation
about
the
enforcement
of
these
ordinances.
B
D
E
But
no
I
I
I
get
it.
I
am
on
that
call
from
time
to
time,
but
I
you
know,
we've
sent
the
message
out
to
everyone.
I
think
it's
just
every
time
we
have
a
meeting
every
single
time.
We
just
need
to
stress
the
importance
of
them,
backing
us
and
get
you
know
getting
the
message
out
there,
just
the
more
they
help
us.
D
J
I
would
most
respectfully
say
that
it
would
have
been
easier
if,
if
there
was
a
statewide
order
in
place,
rather
than
being
encouraged,
we
were
encouraged
by
by
the
governor
local
jurisdictions
to
have
mass
ordinances
in
the
state.
And
in
fact
I'm
told
that
almost
50
percent
of
the
population
of
the
state
of
south
carolina
is
under
a
mass
ordinance
because
of
so
many
towns
and
cities
that
have
put
them
in
place,
but
even
so
and
having
a
a
kind
of
template
or
an
ordinance
from
the
municipal
association.
J
It
varied
a
little
bit
from
one
town
city
to
the
next
and
it's
mandatory
here
and
not
mandatory
there.
So
unless
you
were
a
citizen
that
was
pretty
attuned
to
this
kind
of
thing,
certainly
understandable,
you
know
they
might
not
be
up
on
what
the
latest
iteration
of
our
ordinance
is,
and
so
that's
why
the
continued
communication,
by
not
just
our
enforcement
folks,
but
us
as
elected
officials
and
everyone
we
can
engage
to
help
us
spread
and
spread.
The
message
is,
is
an
important
thing.
So
thanks.
A
And
mayor,
I
agree
with
you.
I
think
that
our
lives
would
be
a
lot
easier
if
there
was
a
statewide
mandatory
ordinance,
a
mandatory
statute
regulating
face
coverings
it
just.
I
think
that
a
lot
of
folks
are
confused
by
it.
I
give
them
the
benefit
of
it
and
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
support
dan
and
the
chief
on
this
we'll
pledge
that
to
you-
and
I
think
the
other
part
is
just
to
make
sure
if
we're
not
getting
the
word
out.
A
I
just
don't
know
if
we
need
to
do
more
of
that
sort
of
stuff,
because
the
idea
really
is
not
to
be
heavy-handed
in
this.
The
idea
is
to
just
have
compliance
right.
We
know
that
it
has
an
impact.
It
has
a
positive
impact
on
keeping
these
numbers
down
and
we
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to
protect
our
community.
A
Support
that
incorporation,
whatever
you
need
us
to
do,
to
make
your
jobs
a
little
bit
easier,
we're
here
to
help
do
that
with
with
the
goal
of
public
safety
in
mind.
So
if
we
need
to
write
letters,
if
we
need
to
do
public
service
announcements,
I'm
available
to
help
with
all
that
stuff,
so
anybody
else
you
need
me
to
contact
personally
I'll
go
out
and
make
those
contacts.
A
Thank
you
for
that
update
and
we'll
probably
every
meeting
just
keep
on
asking
you
for
a
update
on
where
we
stand
with
all
this.
Okay,
all
right,
I
know
we
have
two
other
items
on
the
agenda.
Chief
reynolds
has
got
he
and
I
talked
earlier
today,
so
I
get
a
preview
of
where
we
are
with
this
update
on
the
racial
bias,
audit
and
the
illumination
project,
and
I
know
you've
got
some
team
members
to
assist
you
with
that
chief
rentals.
B
A
B
A
lot
of
community
meetings,
a
lot
of
engagement,
a
lot
of
productive
listening
sessions,
okra
soup
dinners
and
a
variety
of
other
things.
So
what
you
have
in
front
of
you
now
is
a
slide
that
kind
of
articulates
the
illumination
project
and
some
of
the
strategic
plan
and
I'll
read
just
some
of
the
the
goals.
The
five
goals
of
the
illumination
project
had
gaining
a
better
understanding
between
citizens
and
police,
a
mutually
respectful,
trusting
relationship
between
citizens,
police,
developing
a
training
curriculum
to
enhance
citizen
and
police
understanding
of
each
other's
roles,
rights
and
responsibilities.
B
Promoting
de-escalation
as
a
core
principle.
The
department's
training
program,
with
use
of
force,
creating
training
and
implementing
a
police
citizens
advisory
council,
which
we've
fully
implemented
in
the
last
couple
years,
and
we
actually
had
a
meeting
just
last
week,
was
very,
very
productive.
We
now
have
almost
a
full
council
and
it's
there's
a
lot
of
goals
and
objectives
and
work
groups
that
have
emerged
and
it
was
really
uplifting.
We
had
a
two-hour
meeting
last
week
that
was
very
full
agenda
and
and
very
productive.
B
B
So
this
is
the
final
report,
the
cover,
if
you
will,
and
if
in
2019
there
was
a
board
that
was
a
diverse
group
of
people,
not
the
least
of
which
is
some
of
the
people
on
this
call.
Council
members
and
others
who
worked
with
a
an
external
process
that
got
a
lot
of
input,
selected
cna
as
the
firm
and
they
did
their
audit,
which
included
75
meetings
with
all
levels
of
our
organization,
sworn
and
non-sworn,
and
people
in
the
community
to
understand
the
policing
problems
in
our
city.
B
B
This
is
just
kind
of
a
slide
that
that
that
we
want
to
memorialize
and
build
on
the
foundation
of
the
elimination
project.
All
the
input
that
was
received
has
been
incorporated
into
what
you
see
now
is
our
strategic
plan
for
2020
through
20
20
25.,
we
partnered
with
the
college
of
charleston
the
community
assistance
program,
the
riley
center
and
developed
strategies
that
will
move
us
forward
through
2025,
and
you
see
some
of
the
things
here.
B
Real
reform,
real
results,
both
the
out
the
audit
and
the
elimination
project,
contributed
to
what
is
now
our
our
strategic
plan
and
we're
actually
going
to
release
when
he's
been
working
on
it.
Since
she
got
here
a
final
report
for
the
elimination
project,
which
is
going
to
be
fairly
lengthy,
with
all
the
strategies
and
all
that
were
encompassed
in
a
part
of
the
illumination
project,
that'll
be
coming
out
next
month.
B
Real
outcomes
incorporating
this
into
our
culture,
incorporating
into
how
we
interact
with
our
communities
focusing
on
problem
solving,
which
is
the
office
of
community
oriented
policing
which
was
created,
and
then
the
director
of
that
is
captain
dustin
thompson,
who's
on
the
call
right
now
and
other
positions
that
were
a
part
of
the
audit
and
there's
external
input.
People
that
came
in
from
the
outside
for
the
research
and
procedural
justice,
director,
wendy
stiver
and
our
compliance
manager
to
not
only
make
sure
that
we
are
making
the
changes
that
we
talk
about
making
but
auditing.
B
B
I
think
it's
something
that
any
innovative
progressive,
responsible
agency
is
doing,
and
some
those
are
just
some
examples
of
the
things
that
we're
doing.
These
are
I'll.
Let
wendy
just
kind
of
touch
on
this
slide.
This
is
a
dashboard
that
we
have.
If
you
look
at
some
of
these
things,
you
ask
yourself
well
how
come
we're
so
far
behind
well.
This
is
a
five
year
plan
and
we're
not
going
to
check
off
anything.
That's
not
already
done
so.
B
A
lot
of
things
are
in
progress,
but
if
they're
still
in
progress,
they're
not
done
they're
not
reflected
on
this
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
started.
Even
when
the
audit
just
began
where
we
met
with
the
experts
we
met
with
the
audit
team,
we
actually
reviewed
a
lot
of
things
and
they
were
able
to
tell
us
things
that
we
could
fix
right
away,
low
hanging
fruit.
L
L
A
L
Yes,
yes,
yes,
sir,
the
so
the
you
know,
the
audit
calls
for,
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
audit
calls
for
is
an
annual
report
with
detailed
analysis
on
traffic
stops
and
specifically
looking
at
the
racial
disparity
in
everything
we
do.
Traffic
stops,
use
of
force,
arrests,
ticketing
and
so
a
big
part
of
really
doing
that
analysis
is
getting
the
tools
in
place
and
kind
of
learning
in
the
organization.
How
to
do
that
very
detailed
analysis.
L
L
Obviously,
I'm
not
I'm
not
a
highly
rated
phd
at
a
university,
but
I
have
some
friends
who
are
so
we're
going
to
bring
them
in
and
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
really
do
this
right,
we're
not
going
to
cut
corners
on
it.
So
it's
going
to
take
some
time
to
develop
the
tools
and
create
the
analysis
to
produce
the
reports
that
the
community
wants
to
see
when
it
comes
to
racial
disparity
and
everything
we
do
especially
traffic
stops.
A
M
Chaplaincy,
specifically
that
you
know
using
the
coastal
crisis
chaplaincy
to
meet
with
us
quarterly
to
go
over
what
we've
done
previously
in
that
quarter
and
what
we're
moving
forward
to
and
get
insight
from
an
outside
entity.
As
we
go
forward,
we're
all
about
making
change
with
the
coastal
crisis
chaplaincy,
they
want
to
be
out
there
boots
on
the
ground
over
the
last.
You
know
five
years,
we've
done
multiple
community
meetings.
We've
done
a
lot
with
the
audit,
with
community
meetings.
Now
we're
getting
some
boots
on
the
ground
and
and
doing
what
we
say.
M
We've
been
we've
been
wanting
to
do
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
So
that's
the
brief
on
the
partnership
project.
The
chaplaincy
has
multiple
chaplains
that
are
already
assigned
to
the
city.
We've
worked
out
different
rotations.
With
with
that
group
and
they've
already
started
working
with
us.
They
were
out
at
our
roll
calls
yesterday
on
the
east
side
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with
them.
B
B
B
This
is
what
we
would
describe
as
a
pop-up
event,
where
we're
really
focused
on
building
relationships,
on
collaboration
on
partnering
being
presence
in
the
community,
not
just
because
there's
a
problem,
but
because
we
want
to
interact
and
work
with
the
community,
everybody
in
the
community.
So
hopefully
in
time
not,
hopefully
we
I
think
this
will
occur
and
it
did
yesterday.
B
People
will
begin
to
get
used
to
this,
we'll
we'll
do
a
good
job
of
announcing
it
ahead
of
time
for
people
in
the
in
the
local
government
partners.
The
mayor
was
out
there
yesterday,
he
stopped
by
I
I
went
there
in
the
morning.
We
had
a
roll
call
in
the
morning
and
we
had
an
overlapping
roll
call
in
the
evening
at
five
and
they
were
there
the
entire
day
and
a
lot
of
people
stopped
in
and
we,
of
course
are,
are
emphasizing
getting
out
on
foot
on
bicycle.
B
We
have
people
that
want
us
to
have
mountain
patrol
to
roll
our
windows
down
to
be
accessible
and
be
present
in
the
community.
One
of
the
examples
that
I'll
give
and
and
as
we
talk
about
recent
efforts
to
to
get
out
and
reduce
violent
crime,
we
actually
have
officers
and
it
was
their
idea
really
some
of
the
best
ideas
coming
from
the
bottom
up
who
have
pop-up
events
with
basketball
nets.
B
And
what
that
what
we've
taken
out
is
that
reflects
taking
out
the
the
numbers
specific
to
the
riot
so
that
it
doesn't
throw
off
our
year-to-year
comparisons.
So
there
was
about
a
day
and
a
half
where
we
anything
that
was
specifically
related
to
the
riot.
Those
total
numbers
are
still
accurately
captured
on
the
left
column,
but
then
there's
an
adjustment
and
and
those
two
from
2020
to
2019
are
compared,
and
if
you
look
at
that,
we
have
nine
homicides
here.
To
date,
we
had
five
year
to
date.
B
Last
year,
that's
a
significant
increase
in
numbers.
Last
year
we
had
140
118
aggravated
assaults
this
year
we've
had
143,
and
that
is
a
significant
increase.
And
if
you
look
at
the
rest
of
the
numbers,
there's
a
significant
decrease
in
crime,
and
this
is
citywide.
This
is
these-
are
our
total
numbers
for
the
entire
city,
and
that's
something
that
I
know
that
you
we
had
talked
about,
and
I
just
wanted
to
to
do
a
brief
snapshot
year
to
date
of
where
we're
at
and
what
we
announced
a
few
weeks
ago.
B
We
did
a
press
release
and
I've
had
to
talk
about
this,
a
lot,
because
the
way
that
we
wrote
it
the
wording
that
we
used.
I
regretted,
if
I
did
it
again,
I
would
do
it
differently
because
it
gave
a
lot
of
our
communities,
the
impression
that
we
were
going
to
go
in
with
a
military-style
approach
that
we
were
going
to
be
oppressive,
that
we
were
going
to
just.
There
was
a
lot
of
it
brought
back
a
lot
of
feelings
of
old
style
policing.
B
Where
officers
did
things
like
stop
and
frisk
where
they
stopped
everybody
on
the
corner,
where
they
wrote
tickets,
where
they
arrested
everybody
that
they
saw
and
cleaned
out
the
street
corners.
We
did
not
do
any
of
these
things.
What
we
did
was
our
top
tier
was
actually
to
get
out
of
our
cars
and
build
relationships
to
do
what
we
call
walk-in
talks
to
actually
get
out
and
make
contact
with
our
communities
to.
Let
them
know
that
we
were
present
that
we
cared
and
to
not
be
oppressive,
but
to
actually
build
relationships.
B
I
will
tell
you
that
we
have
gotten
a
lot
of
guns
out
of
the
communities
we
have
made
arrests
for
drug
distribution
and
some
other
things,
but
we've
been
very
selective
in
where
we
go
areas
where
we
have
a
very
high
level
of
violence
where
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
complaints-
and
I
will
tell
you
what
I
told
the
community
that
I've
met
with
over
the
last
few
weeks
since
we
sent
that
press
release
out
is,
please
judge
us
by
our
actions,
not
by
our
words
and
I've
gotten.
Only
compliments.
B
It's
been
very
positive.
People
are
thankful
that
we're
out
in
the
communities.
The
feedback
is
that
they
need
us
that,
because
of
these
shootings,
because
of
some
of
the
homicides
that
we've
had,
they
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
something
about
that,
but
that
we
do
it
right
that
we
treat
people
with
respect
and
dignity
and
that
we're
out
there
partnering
with
them
and
not
fighting
against
them
and
so
so
far
a
lot
of
positive
feedback.
B
A
A
I
B
Yeah,
that's
a
a
good
question,
so
there's
officers
who
are
leaving
our
profession.
I
I'd
be
lying
to
you.
If
I
didn't
tell
you,
this
was
the
most
difficult
time
I've
ever
been
through
in
my
entire
career
and
I've
been
on
more
than
most
people
in
the
department,
it's
a
painful,
difficult
time,
our
officers
in
general
nationally,
not
so
much
locally.
B
I
believe
it
was
since
june
16th
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
gads
in
green,
we
had
a
homicide.
We
had
two
in
hazelwood.
After
that
we
had
one
on
king
street.
We
had
one
at
the
radius
apartments
in
west
ashley
near
orleans
road,
and
then
we
just
had
one
last
week
near
drake
and
south
street
on
the
east
side.
B
I
will
tell
you
that,
in
addition
to
those
six
homicides
in
a
fairly
short
period
of
time,
we've
had
our
sheriff's
shootings
and-
and
I
will
tell
you-
our
officers-
have
never
once
failed
to
answer
the
belt
when
the
bell
rings.
They
they
answer
it,
and
I
could
not
be
more
proud
of
the
men
and
women
on
this
police
department
and
I'm
sorry
for
for
for
elaborating
this
much,
but
I'm
passionate
about
it.
I've
never
worked
with
a
better
group
of
people
in
my
entire
career.
B
Some
of
them
are
so
strained
and
maybe
at
some
point
they
they
question
whether
they
wanted
to
be
in
this
profession
and
and
they
made
the
decision.
Some
are
making
the
decision
to
retire,
who
are
eligible
for
retirement
and
a
few
people
are
leaving
and
we
constantly
have
attrition
since
I've
been
here.
We've
lost
people
to
the
federal
sector.
We
just
lost
somebody
to
the
u.s
marshals
service,
which
is
really
kind
of
a
win-win.
It's
it's
really
a
compliment
to
our
agency
that
we
lose
people
to
federal
agencies.
B
We've
lost
people
to
sled,
but
some
people
I'll
tell
you,
the
stress
of
this
environment,
the
operational
tempo,
the
difficulty,
the
feeling
of
being
vilified
by
a
large
portion
of
the
community
talking
about
defunding
and
all
those
types
of
things
has
definitely
had
its
impact.
Now,
here's
the
positive,
that's
the
challenge,
the
the
positive
is
because
of
the
coveted
budget
and
the
impact
on
the
economy.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
people
looking
for
work.
B
There's
people
graduating
colleges
and
a
lot
of
people
want
to
come
to
charleston,
because
this
is
such
a
great
place
to
come
to
it's
a
great
destination.
Our
recruiters
had
geared
up
early
on
and
they
really
have
been
on
a
campaign.
I'll
say
for
the
last
six
months,
especially
and
really
the
timing
could
not
be
better.
So
our
pipe
is
filling.
B
We
have
seven
that
that
started
the
criminal
justice
academy.
They
were
supposed
to
start
in
april,
but
because
of
all
the
delays
at
the
academy
in
columbia,
they
just
started
this
month,
but
we
have
seven
coming
out.
We've
had
a
handful
of
laterals
that
have
come
here
from
other
agencies
and
they
can
just
do
fairly
short
period
of
training
and
go
out.
We
have
17
that
are
have
done.
B
Our
pre-academy
training,
they're
slated
to
go
to
the
columbia
in
november
and
we're
gonna
have
over
20
starting
in
september,
so
our
pipe
is
filling,
but
at
the
same
time
we
do
have
some
attrition.
So
it's
a
challenge,
we're
looking
very
closely
at
our
recruiting,
and
I
will
tell
you
I'd
rather
go
short
than
hire.
Somebody
who
does
not
belong
in
this
profession,
who
doesn't
have
integrity,
who's,
not
a
good
fit.
He
doesn't
belong
in
this
city.
We
have
a
fairly
high
standard
in
this
department.
B
So
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
because
it's
my
goal
that
we
get
at
complement
and
that
we're
hiring
for
future
vacancies.
That's
our
goal,
that's
my
stated
goal.
That's
the
pressure
that
we
put
on
our
hiring
and
recruiting
team
and
so
we're
working
hard.
We
we've
got
them
as
peter
said
in
the
very
beginning
about
I
think
the
fire
stations
the
tournament
used
was
we
gotta
keep
our
foot
on
the
accelerator.
B
B
You
look
at
other
competing
agencies,
there's
a
lot
of
factors,
we're
making
progress
and
it's
slow
and
it
takes
time
to
get
people
through
the
training
cycle
to
actually
get
them
out
in
the
field,
but
we're
we're
doing
good.
I
feel
good
about
who
we're
getting
in
we're
getting
some
really
amazing
recruits.
I.
I
It
was
a
good
answer,
though
it
was
a
very
good
answer.
You
know
free
covid,
you
guys
did
a
great
job
of
recognizing,
with
special
recognitions
with
promotions
and
things
like
that.
Is
there
anything
that
council
or
anyone
else
can
do
to
kind
of
bring
that
back.
I
mean
those
were
great
events
that
really
made
people
feel
good
about
the
accomplishments
they
had
done.
Is
there
anything
that
council
or
anybody
else
could
do
to
to
help
that
you
know
help
the
loss
of
that
right
now?
I
guess.
B
Yeah,
I
will
tell
you
that
businesses
ask
me,
and,
and
leaders
in
the
community
will
ask
me
hey
what
can
I
do
for
you?
We
we
want
you
to
know
that
we
support
law
enforcement.
It's
important
that
you
hear
that
and
I'll
tell
them
hey
buy
a
cop,
a
meal
or
some
of
them
have
actually
fed.
You
know
a
large
number
of
our
officers.
B
They'll
say
what
night
can
we
do
it
and
I
have
a
lieutenant
that
schedules,
those
for
us
a
singular
point
of
contact
and-
and
that's
been
really
important-
we
have
our
hallways
here-
are
lined
with
thank
you
cards
sometimes
they'll
bring
their
kids
and
they'll
write
a
bunch
of
thank
you
cards
from
the
neighborhood
and
we
put
them
up
on
the
hallways.
The
covet
is
making
it
difficult
because
we
can't
be
in
large
groups
in
one
singular
place,
we're
backed
up
on
promotional
ceremonies,
we're
backed
up
on
award
ceremonies.
B
I
mean
it's
amazing,
the
extra
effort,
the
extra
work
and,
at
the
same
time,
the
stress
that
our
people
are
under
right
now
and
the
good
job
that
they're
doing.
I
can't
I
I
can't
say
enough
about
it,
and
so
the
biggest
thing
would
be
to
say
thank
you.
A
card
I'll
put
those
out
on
emails
occasionally
and
anything
that
we
can
think
of.
I
think
the
number
one
human
need
is
the
need
for
affirmation,
and
I
will
tell
you
our
people
need
affirmation
right
now.
J
I
wanted
to
say
that
you
know
this
is
an
effort
of
self-improvement
that
the
city
has
been
our
department
and
those
individuals
in
it
have
been
working
on
for
years
now,
building
trust
between
our
department
and
communities,
and
it
was
very
interesting
I
just
wanted
to
share
with,
with
all
the
the
analysis
that's
been
going
on
since
the
death
of
of
george
floyd.
You
know
all
these
lists
of
best
practices.
That
departments
ought
to
be
doing
in
the
country.
J
You
know
eight
can't
wait
and
president
obama's
initiative,
my
brother's
keepers,
and
they
list
all
these
things-
that
police
departments
ought
to
be
doing
to
be
more
equitable
and
more
trusting
and
and
more
community
oriented
and
and
frankly,
I
go
down
the
list
and
I've
compared
notes
with
chief
reynolds
and
we're
doing
all
of
those
things
we
we've
been
doing
those
things,
and
so
I
couldn't
be
more
proud
and
thankful
of
the
chief
and
our
department
for
all
of
these
efforts.
Are
we
perfect?
A
B
Yeah
we
we,
we
got
a
lot
of
questions
on
that.
I'm
glad
you're
asking
that
it
it
that's
exactly
what
it
is.
It's
simply
where
they
show
up
in
the
beginning
of
the
shift
and
they
get
briefed
and
it's
just
a
way
of
of
being
present
where
a
supervisor
gets
to
meet
with
their
people.
The
team
leader
a
sergeant,
usually
a
corporal
to
actually
talk
to
them
about
what's
going
on
in
the
community.
What
are
the
plans
for
the
day?
B
B
A
Right
and
then
you
talked
about
the-
and
you
know
I
chatted
about
this
earlier-
these
pop-up
events
that
you're
having
and,
as
I
said
to
you
earlier,
I
just
would
encourage
to
to
carry
those
out
to
different
parts
of
the
city.
I
think
it's
a
very
effective
tool
for
people
to
see
you
out
there.
You
mentioned
you
know
getting
the
officers
out
of
the
cars.
A
I
know
it's
kind
of
more
of
a
difficult
process
when
you
get
into
the
areas
of
wes,
ashley
and
james
island
and
daniel
island
and
john's
island,
but
I
would
encourage
you
to
the
point
to
locate
some
of
these
areas
in
west
ashley
and
the
other
islands
to
think
about
doing
those
kind
of
pop-ups.
I
think
the
police
presence
throughout
the
city
is
just
so
critically
important.
B
M
I'll
just
add
that
you
know
we
had
these
plans
of
rolling
these
out
for
the
whole
year.
Back
before
kobe
did
I
want
to
blame
everything
all
coveted,
but
now
that
we're
getting
you
know
the
mask
and
all
and
get
a
little
bit.
I
don't
want
to
say
comfortable,
but
more
in
a
routine,
that
we
feel
comfortable
doing
things.
Yes,
we
we,
our
original
plans,
were
all
over
the
city
in
all
the
different
communities
out
of
businesses,
so
we're
getting
those
scheduled
and
we'll
make
sure
those
are
announced.
A
A
Thanks
councilman
sheila,
I
do
appreciate
you
asking
that
question
about
retention
and
recruitment.
I
was
on
a
call
on
radio
to
call
not
too
long
ago
that
question
came
up
and
I
passed
the
email.
I
got
from
that
individual
to
the
to
the
chief
about
what
we're
doing,
and
it's
always
so
important
that
we
take
the
temperature
of
our
our
men
and
women
in
both
the
police
department
and
fire
department,
I'm
very
proud
of
those
men
and
women
for
the
hard
work
that
they
do,
we're
very
supportive
of
them.
B
Can
I
just
say
too,
I
the
the
one
thing
that
I've
heard
in
the
past
is
we
don't
want
you
to
just
check
the
block
right?
I
can
assure
you
we
are
not
checking
the
block.
We
constantly
challenge
each
and
every
one
of
these
strategies,
discussions
and
say:
hey,
we
don't
just
want
to
say
hey,
we
had
x
number
of
meetings
or
we
did
x
strategies.
We,
we
have
a
new
policy.
B
The
question
is:
what
is
the
outcome?
Are
we
doing
the
right
things
for
the
right
reasons,
and
I
I
just
can't
emphasize
that
enough?
We
really
are
making
the
most
of
this
audit
of
these
positions
and
and
our
organization,
I
think
by
and
large,
has
embraced
it
it's
taken
time
to
help
our
members
and
the
community
understand
even
what
the
audit
is.
Those
of
us
that
have
been
involved
sometimes
take
that
for
granted.
B
A
K
A
O
Thank
you
all
right,
so
chairman,
this
is
real
simple.
This
ordinance
proposes
to
make
it
illegal
for
anyone
to
jump
or
dive
off
of
any
bridge
located
anywhere
in
our
jurisdiction,
and
the
question
is:
why
do
we
need
such
an
ordinance
and
it
really
comes
down
to
public
safety,
and
I
just
jotted
down
a
couple
of
notes
here.
You
know
most
of
our
waterways
here
are
tidal.
Creeks
they
come
in,
they
go
out.
The
the
heights
are
buried
throughout
the
course
of
the
day.
O
So
when
kids,
it's
mostly
kids,
there
are
some
adults
that
do
this,
but
it's
mostly
kids,
they
jump
off.
They
don't
know
what
they're
jumping
off
into
they
don't
know
the
height
of
the
water
depth
of
the
water,
which
obviously
could
cause
significant
injuries
up
to
including
death,
causing
back
injuries,
neck
injuries.
O
So
they
came
forward
to
us
asking
us
to
look
at
this,
and
this
is
the
proposal
that
we've
had
in
looking
at
some
research
on
it.
We're
not
the
only
ones
that
would
have
such
an
ordinance
or
a
statute.
The
state
of
florida
has
a
statute
south
dakota
and
michigan.
Just
in
some
real
quick
research
all
have
statutes
that
prohibit
this
based
on
a
safety
issue.
So
that's
kind
of
the
background
as
to
why
we're
proposing
there
being
an
ordinance
making
it
illegal
to
jump
or
dive
off
of
a
bridge.
A
A
A
This
ordinance
and
the
intended
purpose
for
it
seems
like
it
would
just
be
an
obvious
thing
that
I
was
kind
of
surprised
when
I
saw
it
come
across
our
agenda
that
we
needed
to
add
this,
and
I
just
assumed
that
it
was
illegal
to
jump
off
of
a
bridge.
But
you
know
that's
what
happens.
We
presume
the
obvious
sometimes
so
I
will
entertain
a
motion
that
we
recommend
to
full
council
that
we
adopt.
Is
this
ordinance.
I
J
I,
like
you,
having
grown
up
around
here,
jumped
off
a
bridge
or
two
in
my
life
and
it's
fun
and
it
can
be
I
I
has
anybody
been
hurt.
Do
we
have
I
hear
you
about
people
crawling
up,
maybe
on
somebody
property
and
there's
already
a
statute
against
trespassing,
but
have
there
been
any
any
injuries?
Do
we
know.
O
Mr
mayor,
not
to
my
knowledge,
there
haven't
been
any
injuries
in
the
city.
In
doing
some
research,
there
have
been
significant
injuries
from
individuals
jumping
off
of
bridges
across
the
country.
I
can
tell
you
a
personal
experience
that
I've
had
when
I
was
in
college
in
richmond
virginia.
It
was
a
writer
a
passage
for
us.
After
we
had
our
kind
of
initiation
formally
in
the
school,
we
would
cross
a
bridge
and
it
was
a
divided
co-ed
school.
But
the
males
lived
on
one
side.
The
females
lived
on
another
side.
O
So
after
the
males
kind
of
got
initiated
into
the
college
formally,
we
would
cross
a
bridge
back
to
the
male
side
and
one
of
our
football
players
actually
jumped
off
of
the
bridge
and
drowned
and
died
my
freshman
year
in
college.
So
while
there
are
no
known
instances
here
in
the
low
country
in
charleston,
there
are
documented
cases
across
the
country
and
again
I
can
give
you
a
personal
example
where
there
is
a
significant
injury
risk
to
individuals
where
they
they.
N
O
J
But
even
diving
boards
aren't
on
that
prevalent
anymore
as
it
were
when
we
were
younger,
I
mean,
but
this
this
seemed
a
little
obtrusive
to
me
I
mean
it
seems
like
folks
that
aren't
trying
to
hurt
themselves
would
take
enough
care
not
to
to
try
to
be
safe,
and
then
you
get.
Where
does
this
stop
I
mean,
would
we
give
a
ticket
to
clearance
when
he
was
jumping
off
the
bridge
to
save
mr
bailey
and
it's
a
wonderful
life.
J
J
This
is
something
that
the
scdot
who
owns
most
of
the
bridges
in
the
state
of
south
carolina
should
have
a
policy
on
rather
than
than
us.
I
don't
I
don't
know.
As
you
can
tell.
I
got
a
few
questions
about
this
and
I
I
mean
I,
I
totally
get
the
the
public
safety
aspect
of
it,
but
I
wonder
wonder
if
we
could
give
this
a
little
more
thought
before
we.
A
You
know
mayor
my
my
understanding
was
that,
as
I
said
earlier,
I
just
assumed
that
it
was
an
illegal
to
jump
off
off
of
a
bridge.
I
didn't
know
this
was
never
not
an
ordinance
or
a
state
statute.
Maybe
it
was
just
a
matter
of
what
state
law
requires
and
so
steve
I'm.
If
I
can
call
you
on
the
spot
a
little
bit.
Do
you
know
whether
or
not
there
is
a
state
law
that
addresses
state
bridges.
N
N
O
A
A
So
I
would
mayor
just
recommend
that
we
just
get
in
front
of
full
council.
We
need
to
defer
it
at
that
point
or
get
more
information
between
now
and
august
18th.
We
could
certainly
do
that,
but
I
think
I
ended
up
saying
some
of
the
concerns
and
questions
that
generated
this
several
months
ago
earlier
this
year,
and
with
that
in
mind,
I
would
recommend
that
we
go
ahead
and
recommend
to
full
council
to
adopt
this
ordinance.
A
A
A
A
Thank
you
all
again
for
your
hard
work,
incorporation
and
we'll
get
another
update,
we'll
get
an
update
on
hurricane
preparedness.
I
think
maybe
there
was
a
communication
issue
and
getting
those
folks
to
this
committee
meeting
everybody
have
a
wonderful
rest
of
the
week
take
care.
Thank
you
all
very
much
and
I'll
see
most
of
you
all
sometime
monday
or
tuesday
next
week,
take
care.