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City of Charleston Committee on Public Safety 6/14/21
B
We're
live
all
right,
I'll,
wait,
one
more
minute,
just
101.
According
my
watch.
C
B
All
right,
it
is
102
on
monday
afternoon.
The
14th
of
june
today
is
a
flag
day.
Hope
baby
has
a
flag
nearby
to
recognize
the
adoption
of
the
american
flag
in
its
current
form.
Councilmember
sheila.
If
I
could
call
on
you,
please,
sir,
to
either
lead
us
in
a
moment
of
silence
or
an
invocation.
D
All
right,
thank
you.
Let
us
pray
our
heavenly
father.
We
thank
you
for
the
blessings
of
this
day,
lord,
the
blessings
that
you
give
us
every
day
and
lord.
We
ask
that
you'll
watch
over
our
meeting,
lord,
that
what
we
do
will
be
acceptable
to
you
and
we
ask
that
you'll
continue
to
protect
those
who
protect
us
every
day
for
it's
in
your
holy
and
precious
name.
We
pray,
amen.
B
B
Is
there
a
second
second
all
those
in
favor
any
opposition?
The
minutes
are
approved,
mr
rumlin,
I
you
give
us
a
little
bit
of
information
beforehand.
We
do
not
have
a
copy
of
the
letter
from
musc.
B
We
were
waiting
to
get
that.
So,
if
our
next
council
meeting
is
not
until
july
20th
do
we
have
time
between
now
and
then
to
defer
this
motion.
This
request.
F
Yeah,
like
I
said,
the
the
actual,
this
is
a
letter
of
support
for
a
program
that
muc
is
doing
with
with
violence
and
kids,
and
so
basically,
our
sros
are
going
to
help
identify
families
where
violence
might
be
an
issue
and
refer
them
to
musc
they'd,
be
working
out
of
that
gatson
green
community
center
that
that
housing
has
and
we'd
like
to
participate
in
that
program.
There's
no,
no
commitment
of
any
kind
of
money
or
resources
just
basically
that
we
would.
We
would
participate
by
referring
families
to
the
program.
So
we
could.
F
We
can
either
go
through
with
that
now
or
we
can.
We
can
pull
it
off
of
this
agenda
and
put
it
on
next
month
for
after
the
fact
we
just
wanted
you
all
to
know.
You
know
what
we're
doing
with
that
and
that
we'd
like
to
participate
in
that
program.
C
Mr
chairman,
I
think
we
know
enough
about
this
good
program
and
there's
no
financial
involvement
with
the
city
to
indicate
our
support
for
their
program
without
having
to
take
it
to
the
next
meeting.
With
all
due
respect,
I
would
move
we
approves
this
letter,
a
proposed
letter
of
support
for
their
application.
B
You
right,
I
think
we
know
enough
about
it.
I
just
hate
to
sign
off
on
something
I
haven't
seen.
So
what
is
the
flavor
of
the
rest
of
the
committee
members
on
this?
You
can.
We
can
definitely
motion.
E
D
I
was
just
going
to
ask
steve
if
he
knows
if
they
would
be
able
to
get
something
to
cancel
tomorrow
or
before
tomorrow,
night.
F
Again,
we're
relying
on
on
musc
they're,
the
ones
that
have
the
letter
we
can
call
over
there
and
see
if
we
can
get
it
I
can
make.
I
can
try
and
make
that
happen,
but
I
can't
promise
you
they'll
they'll
give
it
to
me
so.
B
E
Just
really
quickly,
I
think
councilmember
sheila
and
the
mayor
both
sit
on
the
health
and
wellness
advisory
committee,
and
we
got
a
presentation
about
this
whole
program
from
the
director
and
it's
an
incredible
program.
I
don't
see
any
letter
that
they
can
write
for
the
city
and
support.
That
would
be
anything
but
completely
acceptable
to
this
committee.
So
I
would
just
authorize
the
mayor
when
that
letter
comes
along
to
sign
it
if
he
needs
to
edit
it
have
at
it.
B
Of
you
before
anything,
but
I
understand
so,
the
motion
is
to
go
ahead
and
prove
engineer
number
three,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Any
item
number
four
is
a
presentation
proposal
by
lynn's
foundation,
who's
going
to
cover
that
for
us,
please.
F
Mr
chairman,
I
have
that
I
had
actually
invited
a
couple
people
onto
the
call-
and
I
don't
see
them
here
so
I'll-
go
ahead
and
explain
it
and
answer
any
questions
best.
I
can.
F
The
lens
foundation
is
set
up
by
a
gentleman
by
the
name
of
george
wreath
and
he
he
came
down
from
new
york.
He
has
some
some
money
that
he
would
like
to
use
for
charitable
purposes,
and
the
idea
of
the
lens
foundation
is
is
that
the
police
department
through
being
out
in
the
community
would
identify
community
needs
either
individuals
or
organizations
that
could
use
a
charitable
donation
for
whatever
sort
of
need
there
is
and
that
the
lens
foundation
would
then
provide
that
that
that
money
and
the
police
department
would
then
you
know
be
present.
B
F
That's
correct.
We
wanted
to
let
you
know
and-
and
I
just
found
out
that
mr
jimmy
bailey,
who
also
is
involved
in
the
police
foundation,
has
been
talking
with
the
lens
foundation.
I
believe
he's
going
to
serve
as
a
board
member
for
them,
so
there
will
be
some
connection
between
the
lens
foundation
and
the
and
the
police
fund.
C
I
can
provide
a
little
more
background
and
big
thanks
to
mr
wreath,
who
was
introduced
to
me
by
a
friend
of
mine,
and
he
had
indicated
he
had
interest
in
helping
the
police.
He
had
already
just
founded
this
lens
foundation,
which
that
stands
for
law
enforcement,
neighborhood
support,
law
enforcement,
neighborhood
support
lens
and
so
as
chance
would
have
it
independently.
C
I
had
asked
jimmy
bailey
to
help
lead
an
effort
to
start
a
new
charleston
police
fund
effort.
We
had
one
created-
I
guess
10
or
15
years
ago,
and
to
be
honest
with
you,
their
board
had
gone
kind
of
defunct
and
they
weren't.
They
had
some
money
over
the
coastal
community
foundation,
but
they
weren't
there.
Wasn't
anybody
actively
raising
money
or
doing
anything
anymore?
So
jimmy
was
all
ready
to
was
taking
on
that
task,
and
then
george
came
along.
C
So
now
they've
talked,
and
so
I
think
the
decision
is
that,
rather
than
recreate
the
wheel
since
george
already
had
his
501c3
set
up-
and
you
know
approved
and
all
like
that-
that
they're
just
gonna
merge
efforts
and
that
our
effort
going
forward
to
help
our
police
department
with
community
efforts
and
other
other
good
things
that
they
need
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
support
through
our
regular
budget
that
the
lens
foundation
will
be
that
venue
or
that
avenue
by
which
we
can
support
our
police
department.
C
So
I
think
this
is
all
good
and
hats
off
to
both
jimmy
and
to
george
and
and
and
others
that
have
now
volunteered
to
be
on
this
board
and
you'll
be
hearing
more
from
them
as
the
year
rolls
out.
I
understand
that
that
mr
wreath
has
agreed
to
kind
of
seed,
the
the
effort
with
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
donation
and
that's
remarkably
generous
on
his
behalf,
and
so
it's
it's
all
good
and.
B
C
We
we
looked
at
a
model
that
I
think
the
district
of
columbia.
D.C
police
has
a
pretty
perfect,
pretty
well
perfected.
They
do
a
lot
of
community
outreach.
They
do
mentoring
programs
where
officers
become
mentors
to
to
kids
in
the
community
and
just
it
might
be
a
basketball
program.
It
might
be
some
extra
bicycles
for
the
police
department
if
they
need
them
for
our
officers
and
they're,
not
in
our
budget.
B
This
this
sounds
very
similar
to
a
program
I
observe
being
implemented
in
los
angeles
in
the
watts
area.
They
would
talk
about
something
very
similar
to
this
when
I
think
councilman
sheila,
you
were
out
there
with
me
in
los
angeles.
B
I
don't
know
if
you
took
that
tour
with
me,
though,
on
when
we
went
out
in
the
watts,
but
this
sounds
very
similar
to
that
kind
of
non-profit
assisting
the
police
in
the
community.
Anyhow,
that's
not
a
good
program.
It
doesn't
need
our
approval.
It's
just.
This
is,
for
information,
only
purposes
correct,
correct
all
right.
Okay,
maybe
anybody
have
a
question
as
to
item
number
four,
before
we
proceed
to
the
two
other
issues
on
our
agenda:
okay,
susan
you're,
going
to
take
up
or
julia
who's
going
to
take
up
items.
B
Four
five
and
six-
and
now
are
these
just
for
information
purposes
and
discussion.
Are
we
ready
to
vote
on
both
of
these
ordinances?
Mr
mayor.
C
If
I
may,
re
respectfully
make
a
suggestion,
I
think
number
five,
since
our
discussion
at
city
council
last
time
and
and
amendments
there
too,
for
your
consideration
today
would
be
ready
to
to
move
along
to
city
council
tomorrow
night.
However,
I
I
I
believe
on
number
six.
We
we
should
engage
in
discussion
of
this
matter,
but
but
wait
until
we
also
come
back
with
the
proposed
changes
to
our
late
night,
ordinance
and
kind
of
bring
them
forward
together.
C
Maybe
our
next
meeting,
but
maybe
it'll,
take
two
more
meetings
until
we're
ready
to
do
that.
I
I
think
that
would
be
a
a
little
more
comprehensive
approach.
You
could
argue
we'll
just
wait
for
all
of
it,
but
I
I
would
say
I
would
suggest
that
we
move
forward
with
number
five,
since
we
we've
already
had
some
pretty
good
discussion
about
that.
B
And
this
is
an
amendment
to
that
street
ordinance
anyhow.
So
we've
had
this
already
pretty
much
on
the
books,
so
julia
you're
going
to
lead
us
through
this
discussion.
G
Yes,
sir,
for
number
five
susan
was
going
to
lead
number
six.
Okay,.
E
Just
a
matter
of
procedure
we
gave
I
I'm
just
trying
to
refresh
my
recollection
here.
Am
I
not
correct
that
we
gave
first
reading
to
that
part
of
the
ordinance
that
dealt
with
the
street
vendors?
Correct,
that's
correct!
So
so
I
guess
we're
gonna
get
advice
today
from
some
amendments
to
that.
I'm
not
sure
that
do
we
need
to
vote
on
that
or
that
just
go
back
to
city
council
as
an
amendment,
because
it's
already
gone
out
of
this
committee's
hands
and
got
on
the
city
council
for
first
reading.
G
All
right,
fair
enough
I'll
go
ahead,
then.
So
what
do
you
have
in
front
of.
G
I
will
do
my
level
best,
so
what
we're
starting
with
is
the
base
is
what
council
adopted
for
first
reading
and
after
that
meeting
we
met
with
staff,
particularly
the
chief
fire,
marshal
mike
jalazida
who's
on
this
call,
if
you
have
any
questions
for
him,
and
so
these
are
some
recommended
changes
from
coming
from
staff
level
to
you,
and
the
first
is
an
easy
one,
removing
reading
material
from
the
section
b,
the
other
one
is
where
we
left
the
hundred
foot
proximity
requirement.
G
G
We
included
some
requirements
that
they
satisfy
the
noise
ordinance
for
the
late
night
entertainment
provisions,
and
then
we
also
put
in
here
a
requirement
that
they
have
a
10-foot
setback
from
the
right-of-way
and
they're,
also
responsible
for
crowd
control
for
people
waiting
to
purchase
things
from
their
vehicle,
and
those
are
the
five
suggested
revisions
that
are
coming
out
of
staff.
B
So
when
I,
when
I
look
on
the
very
last
page
of
this,
I
think
it's
on
the
section
d,
it
should
be
the
responsibility
of
the
mobile
food
vendor
to
position
their
operation
vehicle
equipment
in
such
a
manner
to
reduce
or
eliminate
interruptions.
That's
that's
what
you
talked
about
as
the
major
addition
to
this
thing
right.
This
is.
G
Our
control
correct,
correct
the
10-foot
setback.
It's
trying
to
keep
crowds
that
are
waiting
in
line
from
blocking
the
sidewalks
essentially
and
forcing
people
to
walk
into
the
street
to
get
around
them
it's
to
require
that
they
so.
B
Most
of
these
guys
that
I
observed
are,
are
one
person,
maybe
a
two-person
operation.
So
is
this
going
to
be
dictated
more
by
the
position
that
they're
located
in
more
so
than
they're,
actually
going
out
there
to
shoot
people
around?
I
guess
that's
that's
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish.
F
D
A
A
They
would
have
time
to
move
their
equipment
away
and
and
basically
close
up
shop,
and
it
would
help
with
the
disbursement
of
the
people
who
would
be
leaving
the
bars
in
the
restaurants
at
1,
30
or
2..
That
was
a
proposal
council
member
sheila,
maybe
either
the
mayor
or
somebody
from
the
police
department
can
speak
to
that
directly.
But
it's
my
understanding,
that's
why
we
were
looking
at
the
one
o'clock.
1
a.m,
closure
time,
as
opposed
to
a
2
a.m.
Closure
time.
A
B
And
also
there's
a
little
bit
something
different
about
a
mobile
vendor.
I
mean
they
literally
have
to
shut
down
and
pick
things
up,
whereas
a
brick
and
mortar,
they
just
have
to
lock
the
door
and
they're
they're
closed.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
different
sort
of
physical
setup
with
a
mobile
vendor.
I'm
presuming
these
guys
pick
up
and
move
out.
Don't
they
they
leave
the
premises
completely.
They
don't
hang
around
overnight.
B
I
B
So
the
because
sheila's
question
was:
why
are
we
closing
these
guys
down
an
hour
ahead
of
the
brick
and
mortar
folks
in
the
discussion.
E
One
reason
is
one
reason,
mr
chairman:
is
we
took
this
up
at
our
last
committee
meeting.
We
debated
it
at
some
length
and
on
council
member
mitchell's
motion.
We
moved
it
from
1
30
to
1
o'clock.
I
mean
it
was
some
input
from
everybody
on
this
committee
and
it
all
surrounded
exactly
what
susan
has
explained
to
us
was
just
the
whole
idea
of
wrapping
activities
up.
So
everything
ends
at
about
the
same
time.
I
I
would
agree
with
what
councilmember
seeking
just
described,
I
think
that's
the
background
how
we
got
here.
I
don't
think,
there's
a
perfect
solution
to
this.
I
think
it's
a
balanced
discussion.
It's
a
balanced
approach.
I
I
think
that
we
are
trying
to
get
some
of
the
I'll
just
call
it
low-hanging,
fruit
and,
and
some
of
the
things
that
are
gonna
have
the
biggest
impact
positive
on
mitigating
some
of
the
challenges
that
we've
had
and
having
the
least
amount
of
negative
impact
on
on
on
businesses
and
others,
and
I
think
this
was
kind
of
the
balance
that
we
found
through
discussion
through
our
process
and
through
the
law.
I
Frankly,
that
I
know
susan
did
a
lot
of
research
on
and
and
and
there's
what
we
need
to
do
is
de-escalate
or
kind
of
slow
things
down
at
a
certain
time,
and
I
think
that's
where
we
came
up
with
this
time
and
and
kind
of
a
stepping
process,
almost
if
you
will
and-
and
this
is
kind
of
that
balance
that
we
had
talked
about.
B
Councilman
sheila
does
that
help?
Yes,
sir?
Thank
you
all
right.
So
from
from
a
procedural
standpoint,
as
councilmember
seekings
pointed
out,
we
can
vote
to
recommend
this
proceed,
that
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
have
this
committee's
approval.
This
is
going
to
go
for
a
second
reading
tomorrow,
so
correct,
correct,
councilman
seeking
said:
do
you
have
any
further
questions
or
input
on
this,
and
are
you
ready
for
it
to
go
forward.
B
We
could
take
a
formal
vote
to
if
y'all
wish,
or
we
can
just
express
ourselves-
I'm
certainly
in
favor
of
it
going
forward
on
tuesday
before
full
council.
With
these
changes
on
it.
C
Mr
chairman,
I
would
move,
we
recommend
the
amended
version
to
city
council
for
its
approval
tomorrow
night.
B
B
C
Would
I
would
respectfully
suggest
that
I'm
I'm
not
sure
this
is.
This
is
ready
for
prime
time
just
yet
it's
it's
a
unique
situation,
because
we
have
an
ordinance
that
was
originally
passed.
I
think
back
in
1976
that
disallows
the
service
of
beer
and
wine
not
liquor
drink,
but
beer
and
wine
after
1
30.,
and
we
were
not
enforcing
this
ordinance
and
and
so,
if
we
wanted
to
enforce
it,
it
needs
to
be
cleaned
up
and
the
definitions
improved
and
all
like
that.
C
But,
as
you
know,
we
had
a
meeting
with
certain
restaurant
owners
just
recently
and
we
we
advised
them
that
we
were
going
to
make
some,
that
we
were
going
to
clean
up
these
ordinances.
But
we
also
mentioned
the
late
night
ordinance
as
well,
which
we
have
not
really
dug
into
yet
so
so
I
kind
of
think
we
ought
to
get
input
on
both
of
these
and
bring
them
back
together
because
they
they
impact
our
brick
and
mortar
restaurants
and
and
and
establishments
not
just
on
upper
king
street.
B
E
The
ordinance
that's
on
the
books
for
those
of
you
want
to
look
at
is
3-16,
I
believe,
and
we
could
go
back
and
ask
but
back
in
1975,
this
ordinance
was
adopted
and
it
was
aimed
at
convenience
stores
not
at
bars,
because
if
you
go
and
look
at
it,
it
does
say
that
you
cannot
sell
beer
and
wine
after
1
30,
but
there's
an
exemption
for
anybody.
Who's
licensed
essentially
as
a
bar
in
the
state
under
the
state
law
back,
then
they
only
sold
mini
bottles.
E
So
it's
really
an
ordinance
that
was
aimed
at
stopping
beer
and
wine
carrying
out
of
stores
at
1
30
in
the
morning.
But
if
you
sold
pursuant
to
what
we
would
call
today,
our
late
number
cabaret
ordinance
that
state
statute
would
have
exempted
you
and
you
could
still
sell
beer
and
wine
till
the
hours
that
were
allowable
for
liquor.
So,
if
we're
going
to
take
up
this
whole
conversation
about
hours
in
operation,
I
think
mayor
after,
following
the
meeting
that
we
had
last
week.
E
We
wouldn't
reign
any
more
ordinances
on
their
head
until
we'd
had
a
little
bit
further
conversation
and
see
where
we
could
get
cooperatively,
and
I
don't
think
the
amendment
of
this
ordinance
really
accomplishes
any
of
the
objectives
that
we
were
looking
at
chief
and
I'm
certainly
willing
to
hear
differently
from
you.
But
I
agree
with
you
mayor.
I
think
this
needs
a
lot
more
discussion
and
some
more
thought.
B
And
what
I
understood
from
all
of
this
was
that
this
really
was
cleaning
up
because,
as
you
said,
councilman
seeking
back
when
it
was
passed,
there
were
liquor,
bottles,
mini
bottles,
I'm
sorry
were
still
in
effect,
and
this
is
post
mini
bottle,
and
so
there
was
a
state
law
that
kind
of
somewhat
preempted
what
we
could
and
could
not
do
with
the
sale
of
liquor.
I
mean
that
was
sort
of
the
discussion
we
had
on
this.
We
couldn't
touch
that
part
of
the
liquor
sales
on
here.
The
alcohol
salesman.
E
No,
no,
no,
that's
not
correct!
Mr
chairman.
We
were
just
trying
to
stop
sale
of
beer
and
wine
after
1
30.
we
could
have
stopped
the
sale
of
beer
and
wine
at
one
at
liquor
at
130
back
in
1975
too,
and
you
might
recall,
we
went
from
four
o'clock
till
two
o'clock:
we're
not
preempted
by
state
law
from
setting
hours
of
operation
and
the
sale
of
liquor
over
the
counter
in
bars.
E
This
ordinance
was
adopted
by
the
city
and
looked
back
to
state
law
and
allowed
for
the
continued
sale
of
wine
and
beer
in
bars
that
were
also
licensed
to
sell
alcohol
back
then,
the
only
way
you
could
do
it
was
through
mini
bottles.
So
if
you
go
back
and
look
at
this
or
this
state
statute,
you
would
just
substitute
liquor
for
mini
bottles.
It's
the
same
thing,
but
we
we
are
not
preempted
and
I'll
stand
corrected.
If
susan
tells
it
differently
we're
not
preempted
from
setting
hours.
We
can
do
that.
E
We
just
didn't
do
that
with
this
ordinance
and
it
was
not
aimed
at
at
bars.
It
was
aimed
at
stores.
B
A
Clarify
this
for
us
well
since
this
time-
and
I
think
actually
the
ordinance
was
passed
in
2000,
but
since
that
time
a
lot
has
changed
on
the
state
level.
With
regards
to
the
regulation
of
alcohol,
you
know
many
volatiles
were
abolished,
local
options,
sales
tax
was
enacted
or
local
options,
sales
was
enacted,
and
so
basically
local
municipalities
do
have
the
authority
to
regulate
the
hours
of
sale
of
alcohol,
beer
and
wine.
If
you
would
choose
to
do
so,
okay.
B
C
So
so
two
points,
if
I
may,
that
some
of
that
same
group
of
owners
that
we
met
with
three
or
four
weeks
ago
indicated
that
that
they
welcomed
some
graduated
closing.
C
You
know
whereby
last
call
is
given
at
some
point
and
lights
out
at
another
point,
and
some
of
that
kind
of
thing
is
addressed
in
the
late
night
ordinance,
but
it
was,
I,
I
think,
presented
as
a
six-month
trial
period,
and
so
that's
why
I
think
this
whole
issue
goes
hand
in
hand
with
the
late
night
ordinance
and
we
need
to
clear
that
up,
but
but
I
do
agree
with
them
that
if
there's
some
way
we
can
structure
last
call
and
and
closings
to
where
people
have
more
of
a
a
window
of
time
at
which
they're
finishing
their
drink
and
then
they
can't
get
another
drink
they
got
to
leave.
C
You
know
you,
it
would
lessen
the
likelihood
of
a
you
know
big
exodus
when
the
door
gets
locked.
So
that's
one
point.
The
other
point
council
member
seeking
raises
an
interesting
point
as
to
why
this
316
was
originally
put
in
place,
and
in
fact
that
is
something
that
we
need
to
address.
C
I
remember
chief
reynolds
mentioning
that
after
two
o'clock,
when,
when
the
doors
were
locked
on
upper
king,
that
many
people
were
just
going
to
the
little
corner,
store
right
next
door
and
get
another
pack
or
another
bottle
of
wine,
and
the
party
was
continuing
right
there
on
the
street
in
somebody's
car
and
whatever
so
maybe
the
original
tent
council
member
seeking
of
this
ordinance
is
in
fact
what
we
still
need
today.
C
E
B
Well,
we
just
see
that
I,
I
think,
even
more
reason
than
ever
now
here
in
this
general
discussion.
Let's,
let's
bring
this
out
for
people
to
chew
on
some
more
hear
from
council
how
they
feel
about
it,
get
some
more
of
these
folks
out
there
on
the
street
to
tell
us
how
they
feel
about
it,
and
we
can
bring
it
up
for
more
further
discussion
in
july
councilman
sheila.
Anything
you
want
to
add
to
this.
Are
you
comfortable
with
where
we're
headed
with
this
so
far,
yeah.
I
There
are
some
businesses
that
are
not
adhering
to
what
the
mayor
just
described,
as
I
think
would
be
a
healthy
business
practice
of
of
last
call,
for
example,
at
1
30
and
turning
some
lights
on
and
doing
things
which
many
of
our
businesses
are
already
doing,
and
then
there's
some
who
have
chosen
to
violate
anything
that
I
would
describe
as
being
responsible
and
helpful,
and
we
need
to
deal
with
those
businesses
and
we
are
and
will
be
that
continue
to
violate
a
whole
variety
of
of
things.
I
And,
and
so
I
think,
what
we
agreed
is.
We
want
to
encourage
and
support
the
good
businesses
that
are
doing
the
right
things
and
then
effectively
deal
with
those
that
are
not
that
are
creating
significant
problems
that
are
contributing
to
frankly,
the
problems
that
that
we've
had
directly
and
indirectly
in
a
variety
of
ways.
I
So
I
think
this
is
healthy,
though,
as
the
mayor
said-
and
I
think
all
of
you
have
said
this
conversation
is
really
important-
to
have
some
visibility
to
this
issue,
and
it
may
be
less
about
the
exact
time
that
things
close
and
and
more
about
responsible
business,
behavior
and
practices.
I
However,
I
think
that
this
conversation,
I
believe,
is
very
important
and
and
and
worthy
of
some
illumination,
so
that
we
have
positive
peer
pressure
and
and
and
and
frankly,
legal
support
from
our
team
here
and
a
variety
of
other
factors
to
deal
with
those
businesses
that
are
creating
harm
to
our
city.
B
And
chief,
I
agree
with
what
I
heard
from
that
group
when
we
all
when
we
met
with
them,
is
the
idea
of
uniformity
on
here
and
the
folks
who
are
embodied
by
this
and
are
very
responsible
for
this.
They
would
like
to
see
this
kind
of
uniformity
across
the
board,
with
with
everybody
for
those
who
don't
comply
with
the
spirit
of
of
these
the
end
of
sale
of
alcohol
liquor
and
that
it.
B
Sense
that
we
just
look
at
the
stuff
from
a
broad
perspective,
to
make
sure
that
all
these
audiences
are
consistent
in
supplementing
one
another
and
not
standing
in
contradiction
of
one
another.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
take
a
motion
on
this.
We
are.
We
just
accept
this
for
discussion
purposes
only
and
and
move
on
from
there
is
that,
okay
with
you,
I
would
just
you
know.
E
I
would
just
say
this,
mr
chairman:
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
ready
in
july
either.
I
think
we
need
to
go
through
the
summer
and
work
with
all
the
different
teams
that
are
out
there
and
bring
it
back
in
the
fall.
If
ever
to
talk
about
it,
I
just
don't
think
it
needs
to
keep
coming
back
up
every
month
until
we've
gone
through
this
entire
process,
because
it
will
add,
stress
and
workload
to
everybody
who's
on
this
call.
B
All
right
any
further
discussion
about
that
part
of
it.
Just
one
quick
question,
mr
dina,
before
we
leave
this,
as
this
ordinance
is
written
down,
are
we
are
non-consumption,
so
just
a
sale
of
beer
and
wine
is
that
prohibited
from
these
convenience
type
stores?
The
way
this
ordinance
is
written,
can
you
just
clarify
that
for
me
as
well?
Yes,.
A
I
council
member,
I
would
say
the
way
it's
written
yes,
okay,.
C
E
A
According
to
this,
according
to
this
ordinance,
if
they're
selling
after
130,
unless
they
have
some
special
exception
or
exemption
that
we
don't
know
about-
and
I
would
like
to
check-
I
mean
there
are
obviously
some
odd
zoning
rules
and
grandfathering
in
of
different
places.
But
I
I
would.
I
would
recommend
that
a
mayor
before
any
action
is
taken.
We
would
just
look
at
each
business
who
may
be
implicated
and
do
a
little
bit
further
research.
A
But
certainly
you
know
if
you
read
it
plainly,
it
would
apply
to
any
store
beer
parlor,
I'm
not
sure
what
a
beer
parlor
is
or
other
place
of
business
or
commercial
establishment,
sell,
give
away,
dispense
or
permit
consumption.
B
For
your
edification
councilman
mitchell,
the
the
the
two
ordinances
with
item
number
five
and
number
six.
We
there
was
some
changes
for
number
five
and
we
moved
forward
to
go
forward
to
council
full
recommendation
make
those
changes
and
item
six
was
just
for
discussion
purposes
only
so
this
will
let
you
know
where
we
stand
with
all
that
stuff:
okay
and
you're
muted.
So
we
can't
hear
words
you're,
saying.
B
H
H
B
All
right,
everybody,
I
don't
need
to
prolong
this
meeting
longer
than
necessary.
There's
any
other
business
that
needs
to
come
in
front
of
this
committee.
See
you
none!
We
are
adjourned
I'll
see
you
get
many
of
you
all.