►
From YouTube: City of Charleston Committee on Public Safety 10/28/2020
Description
City of Charleston Committee on Public Safety 10/28/2020
A
B
B
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
Good
afternoon,
everybody.
This
is
october,
28
2020.,
I'm
calling
to
order
the
public
safety
committee
meeting.
I
welcome
everybody.
Who's
listening
in
and
participating
in
this
committee
meeting
we're
going
to
take
out
this
one
item
of
business.
This
is
the
charleston
police
department.
B
After
action
report,
you
will
notice
that
the
chief
and
heather
malloy
and
I
can't
make
out
who's
actually
behind
them,
but
several
members
of
the
chief's
team
who
were
instrumental
in
the
preparation
of
the
action
after
action
report
are
with
him
in
the
charleston
police
department,
training,
room,
they're
armed
with
their
own
computers.
I
believe-
and
I
also
notice,
in
addition
to
our
regular
standing
committee,
members
councilmember
seeking
shili
and
saccharin
in
the
mayor.
Obviously
we
also
have
listening
in
councilmember
de
chapo
and
councilmember
appel.
B
I
do
not
recognize
or
see
any
other
council
members
besides
the
ones
I
have
I
have
mentioned
so
several
weeks
ago
we
received
this
after
action
report.
There
was
a
preliminary
report
prepared
by
the
charleston
police
department.
B
Members
of
the
committee
received
the
a
copy
of
it
or
had
an
opportunity
to
review
it
prior
to
the
meeting.
I
have
gone
through
it
in
from
cover
to
cover
it
was
been
released
to
all
members
of
city
council
and
has
been
released
to
the
to
the
public,
and
I
have
disseminated
it
to
members
of
within
my
council
member
district
as
well.
So
we
want
to
have
this
opportunity
to
go
over
the
report.
B
D
B
Thank
you
chairman
shade.
Thank
you
for
that
councilmember.
I
believe
we
did
receive
our
minutes
from
october.
The
8th
2020
committee
member.
B
You
not
okay.
I've
got
so
many
minutes
bethany.
I
can't
remember
what
I've
read
and
haven't
read
sometimes,
so
thank
you
for
bringing
that
out.
So
we'll
dispense
with
that.
B
At
this
point,
I'm
going
to
ask
if
any
members
of
the
city
council,
who
are
members
of
the
public
safety
committee
have
any
questions
comments,
observations
anything
that
they
wish
to
talk
about.
Regarding
the
report
and
a
normal
order
of
business,
I
always
go
with
start
with
our
vice
chair,
mr
seekings,
and
then
go
around
the
room
to
mr
sheeley
and
then
mr
sacrament
and
the
mayor.
So
if
I
can
do
that
in
that
order,
councilmember
seeking
his
comments,
questions.
F
Just
one
very
just
one
very
quickly,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
all
for
participating
and
gang
over
police
headquarters.
I
I
just
want
to
know
where
we
are
in
the
continuum
in
terms
of
the
report
that
we
have
currently
is
it
completed
in
its
first
round
and
phase
from
your
perspective,
or
is
there
still
some
more
work
to
do.
B
And
I'll
jump
in
on
that
council
messages,
I've
met
with
heather
and
been
on
the
phone
with
our
susan
medina
and
heather,
and
with
the
chief
we
have
given
them
a
task
to
gather
more
information
concerning
business
loss
and
information
regarding
collecting
more
data.
So
I've
asked
them
to
wait
until
after
this
meeting
to
take
that
information
and
complete
that
component
of
it
for
us.
Thank
you.
B
G
Please,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
don't
really
have
any
questions
just
again
want
to
thank
captain
thompson,
brooder,
cortela,
miss
malloy
and,
of
course,
chief
reynolds
for
the
work
that
you
put
into
this
detailed
report,
and
I
I
know
it
hadn't
been
an
easy
task
and
but
from
what
I
can
see,
you've
been
very
transparent,
identifying
you
know,
shortcomings
and
areas
where
we
can,
and
I
can
see
that
we
will
improve
so
anyway.
Just
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
and
just
let
you
know.
G
D
Thank
you
chair,
not
much
for
me.
I
just
want
main
question
I
I
would
have
just
for
folks
listening
and
kind
of
general
public,
and
maybe
this
is
directed
to
to
chief
just
some
key
takeaways
in
plain
english,
that
folks
in
the
public
can
can
hear
from
us
about
what
we
could
have
done
differently
and
hindsight
is
2020,
but
are
there
one
or
two
things
that
that
you
could
kind
of
distill
down
just
for
folks
that
are
listening
or
folks
in
the
public,
because
that
is
a
that
is
an
in-depth
report.
D
It's
very
lengthy,
very
detailed,
and
I
appreciate
everyone
working
on
it,
but
just
some
key
takeaways.
If
anyone
could
could
speak
to
that.
B
H
Door,
I
think,
there's
a
lot.
One
of
them
would
be
intelligence
gathering
working
with
our
partners
around
the
country,
working
with
our
partners
in
the
state,
federal
and
local
areas,
closely
on
following
intelligence
and
just
making
sure
that
we're
talking
to
each
other
and
there's
a
lot
of
areas
that
I
think
a
lot
of
people
learn
a
lot
from
with
this
event
in
charleston
on
may
30th,
as
well
as
events
around
our
state
and
around
our
country.
H
So
we've
been
in
contact
with
all
of
our
partners
around
the
country
around
the
state
and
regionally
talking
very
closely
about
that
topic,
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
great
detail
about
areas
for
improvement.
But
that's
something
that
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
and
I'll
just
mention
two
others
and
there's
there's
actually
a
lot
of
takeaways.
H
But
another
key
takeaway
is
communication
with
our
communities,
as
we
have
protests
as
we
have
pop-up
events
as
we
have
people
showing
up
from
other
areas
and
and
having
different
events,
making
sure
that
we
have
close
contact
with
our
residential
business
and
other
community
groups
make
sure
that
we're
talking
and
and
that
we
have
advanced
communication
that
they
understand
what
kind
of
a
footprint
maybe
we're
going
to
have
on
given
days
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
protests
since
may
30th
and
the
31st
and
our
communication
has
been
enhanced
and
much
more.
H
H
This
event
happened
very
quickly,
and
so
since
then,
we've
had
a
lot
of
repetitions,
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
do
better
internally,
focusing
on
communications
with
our
people,
command
and
control,
and
just
making
sure
that
we
have
more
clarity
about
our
plans
when
other
jurisdictions
come,
for
example,
from
outside
of
charleston,
which
we've
been
very
blessed
to
have
a
lot
of
great
partnerships,
there's
not
a
single
jurisdiction
that
has
not
assisted
us
when
asked
throughout,
not
not
just
on
the
30th
or
the
31st.
H
But
since
then,
on
many
occasions,
and
when
they
come,
they
need
clarity
about
what
we're
going
to
do,
how
we're
going
to
do
it,
what
their
role
is,
what
their
assignments
are
who's
in
charge,
and
so
we
we've
strengthened
a
lot
of
that
communication
internally
externally
and
intelligence
gathering
and
just
a
lot
of
our
strategies
and
how
we
deal
with
these
events.
H
B
You
thank
you
chief,
thank
you,
sac
house
of
second,
any
other,
follow
up
on
that
or
anything
okay.
Thank
you
so
much
for
both
of
y'all
mayor.
Is
there
a
comment
at
this
point
before
we
get
into
the
public
comment
period.
A
A
A
I'm
thankful
that
we
are
in
the
mood
to
use
this
whole
review
as
a
learning
experience
to
improve
ourselves
and
and
better
connect
with
our
community
and
be
able
to
do
a
better
job.
That's
that's
what
this
is
all
about,
so
I'm
gonna
be
quiet,
now
open
up
my
ears
and
ready
to
listen.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I'm
I'm
just
here
to
listen
as
well
and
to
show
my
support
not
only
for
our
police
department,
but
for
this
entire
process,
which
I
think
speaks
for
itself.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
It
was
warm,
but
it
was
great
to
see
west
edge
celebrated.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity.
I
would
join
myself
to
my
colleagues
who
are
not
on
the
committee
officially.
I
I
set
in
on
the
original
explanation
of
the
report
and
I
am
looking
forward
to
hearing
what
the
community
has
to
say.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
all
right,
madam.
J
B
B
Okay,
all
right
so
the
ladies
and
gentlemen.
I
know
we
received
some
online
comments
that
we
have
been
have
been
shared
among
us
already.
So,
madam
clerk
are
you
going
to
you?
Have
a
list
of
people
who
have
called
in
or
any
other
online
comments.
E
I
do
yes,
sir,
we
have
14
people
that
have
signed
up
to
speak,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
set
a
time
limit.
Just
let
me
know
what
you.
B
Want
to
see,
I
think
that
our
custom
for
this
has
been
about
two
minutes
and
unless
there's
some
general
objection,
I
don't
mind
extending
it
to
three
minutes.
This
is
an
important
phase
of
what
we're
doing.
We
only
have
14
people
talking.
B
I
don't
want
to
preclude
anybody,
but
so
let's,
let's
see
if
we
can
keep
it
to
three
minutes
unless
there's
a
strong
objection
from
anybody.
Mr
mayor,
not
okay,
okay,
all
right!
So
madam
clerk,
you're
gonna
call
each
person
name
out
one
at
a
time
and
then
we'll
go
time.
B
You
folks
please
and
we're
being
a
little
bit
more
generous
than
we
normally
do
for
public
comment,
but
I
do
want
to
give
everybody
an
opportunity
to
talk
we're
going
to
listen
at
this
point,
take
notes
and
it's
being
recorded
on
youtube
as
well,
so
we'll
have
a
court
reporting
of
this.
B
Please
state
your
name
as
well
anything
else
bethany.
We
need
them
to
do
besides
their
name.
E
State,
their
name
is
great.
When
I
call
their
name,
they
can
press
star
six
to
unmute
themselves
and
then
they
can
begin
with
their
comment.
B
Okay,
all
right
so
bethany
our
first,
our
first
person
who
wants
to
speak,
go
ahead
and
announce
them
and
go
from
there.
E
K
Justice
reform
can
I
just
make
sure
that
you
guys
can
hear
me
right
now.
B
B
L
Okay,
great,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
having
these
meetings
and
for
the
transparency
with
looking
into
these
issues,
especially
with
the
after
action
report
in
this
committee
in
general.
You
know
looking
into
not
only
the
right,
as
some
have
called
it,
but
also
the
protesting
from
the
summer
as
a
result
of
george
floyd
at
south
carolina
for
criminal
justice
reform.
L
You
know
our
goal
is
to
make
our
system
our
criminal
justice
system
and
south
carolina
better
through
creative
and
smart
reform,
and
I
think
that
we
all
have
seen
a
crazy
year
in
2020
one
of
the
many
crazy
things
that
have
happened.
You
know,
of
course,
is
continuing
police
brutality
against
minorities,
and
we
are
no
stranger
to
that
here.
In
charleston,
we've
seen
that
with
walter
scott,
which
happened
a
few
years
ago
and
again,
unfortunately,
in
minneapolis
this
past
summer,
with
george
floyd.
L
That,
I
think,
is
the
big
issue
here,
that's
before
our
country,
in
every
state
and
and
not
just
in
charleston
here,
and
that
is
what
spurred
this
natural,
this
national
uprising
and
and
demand
for
change
and
across
across
our
country,
including
charleston.
L
I
think
we
understand
that
the
national
level
of
protesting
was
perhaps
at
an
unprecedented
level,
at
least
in
recent
years,
but
our
country
is
no
stranger
towards
to
change
and
to
our
first
amendment
right,
we
have
south
carolina
for
criminal
justice
reform,
they're,
doing
a
lot
of
research
and
investigation
this
past
summer,
since
the
death
of
george
floyd,
not
just
into
you,
know
the
use
of
force
laws
when
it
comes
to
south
carolina
which,
by
the
way
south
carolina,
does
not
have
any
law
in
the
statute
regulating
police
officer
use
of
force.
L
That
is
something
we
hope
that
all
of
you
will
support
our
our
desire
to
change
that
in
the
future,
but
we've
also
been
looking
into
you
know:
police
contact
with
the
community.
You
know,
I
think
the
chief
has
reynolds
has
done
a
great
job
since
he
came
to
charleston
and
being
transparent
with
us.
He
is,
and
his
agency
is
the
only
agency
we
found
in
the
entire
state
that
makes
their
policies
and
procedures
public
on
their
website.
No
other
agency
that
we
found
does
that
and
we
love
that
we
love
the
transparency.
L
As
you
know,
the
aclu
and
our
organization
has
laid
out
in
our
detailed
letter
that
came
out
last
week
addressed
to
all
of
you,
and
specifically
it
lacks
transparency
when
it
comes
to
not
just
the
results
of
perhaps
lack
of
police
presence
when
it
comes
to
the
damage
to
businesses
from
the
30th,
but
the
damage
to
people's
liberties
on
the
31st
and
continuing.
Since
then,
we've
collected
several
videos
interviewed
several
witnesses
and
protesters
who
were
present
on
the
afternoon,
the
31st
in
marion
square,
who
were
met
with
excessive
use
of
force.
L
We
have
seen
videos
where
there
have
been
individuals
that
were
literally
trampled
by
lines
of
police
officers
and
detained
open
firing
with
tear
gas
and
pepper
ball
bullets
at
close
range
of
young
people
exercising
their
first
amendment
right
and
just
as
we
don't
want
the
damage
that
was
done
and
the
violence
that
was
done
to
businesses
to
ever
happen
again.
We
do
not
want
to
see
this
type
of
use
of
force
from
our
agencies
in
charleston
ever
again,
especially
against
people
that
were
peaceful
and
unarmed,
exercising
their
constitutional
rights.
I
L
B
Second
question:
you
know
who's
next
bethany.
E
Yep,
the
second
individual
is
cali
shell.
If
you
would
please
press
star
six
and
unmute
yourself.
O
So
what
I
experienced
in
marion
square
clearly
felt
like
a
violent
suppression
of
our
free
speech
and
a
blatant
use
of
excessive
and
clearly
unnecessary
for
force
against
a
peaceful,
socially
distant.
But
yes,
also
righteously.
Angry
group
of
people
protesters
were
literally
taking
the
knee
or
lying
on
the
ground
in
marion
square,
as
we
watched
a
military
vehicle
roll
into
the
square,
accompanied
by
a
contingent
of
heavily
armed
riot
police.
O
I
then
watched
as
police
proceeded
to
violently
tackle
people.
I
watched
one
officer
apparently
place
his
knee
on
the
back
of
a
young
man's
neck.
In
much
the
same
way,
the
world
watched
the
police
officer,
murder,
george
floyd.
I
watched
as
police
shot
people
at
very
close
range
with
pepper
bullets
and
then
used
chemical
weapons
on
people
as
they
tried
to
comply
with
police
orders
to
leave
the
square.
O
O
Furthermore,
the
mass
arrests
of
peaceful
citizens
during
a
public
health
crisis
directly
endangered
the
lives
of
everyone
involved.
I
was
arrested
for
simply
standing
there,
observing
police
and
then
was
left
handcuffed
and
without
my
mask
in
an
extremely
small
room,
with
five
other
people
for
probably
three
or
four
hours
when
I
was
eventually
released
the
next
day.
You
know
again,
this
is
the
height
of
the
coronavirus
pandemic.
O
So
at
every
turn,
I,
the
police
presence
that
day
in
particular,
made
everyone
less
safe,
not
more.
It
escalated
violence
rather
than
de-escalating
it
repressed
speech,
rather
than
protecting
it
and
it
utilized
excessive
force
rather
than
condemning
it.
As
the
report
says,
so
we
need
far
more
accountability
and
transparency
on
what
took
place
then,
and
what
has
continued
as
a
pattern
of
targeting
specifically
black
protesters.
P
Yes,
my
name
is
donna
white,
I'm
a
board
member
with
south
carolina
for
criminal
justice
reform,
I'm
also
a
licensed
professional
counselor
and
a
licensed
addiction
counselor
with
the
events
involving
racial
injustice
and
the
use
of
police
of
use
of
force
by
police
occurring
across
the
nation.
People
are
experiencing
a
lot
of
trauma
and
protesting
is
a
way
for
people
to
utilize
freedom
of
speech
and
express
their
emotions
and
trauma.
Responses
are
different
for
individuals,
and
incidents
like
the
ones
in
may
can
result
in
protest
related
trauma.
P
Requests
for
people
to
stay.
Silent
only
reinforces
these
feelings,
and
the
threatening
tone
of
these
messages
reinforces
the
trauma
and
sends
a
message
that
people
can
only
be
seen
and
heard
on
the
terms
that
you
all
allow,
as
it
relates
to
the
incident
in
may,
and
the
responses
from
the
police.
I
believe
considerations
to
the
impacts
of
trauma
related
to
the
excessive
use
of
force
and
unnecessary
attention
of
citizens
should
be
given.
P
Q
I
B
B
S
Yeah
all
right,
thank
you
so
much
tonight
I
am
speaking
as
a
concerned
citizen.
I
must
first
say
that,
while
the
words,
dignity
and
respect
are
used
several
times
in
this
after
action
report,
there's
there
was
nothing
dignified
or
respectful
about
how
the
police
department
and
other
agencies
responded
to
peaceful
protests
on
may
31st.
S
That
was
the
day
that
I
participated
in
peaceful
protests.
The
account
offered
by
cpd
of
the
events
that
afternoon
are
incomplete
at
best
and
irresponsible,
at
worst
from
east
bay
street
through
reed
street,
to
meeting
street
to
marion
square
fellow
citizens,
and
I
were
marching
peacefully
on
sidewalks.
S
I
should
add
in
protest
against
police
brutality,
while
a
military-style
tank
followed
in
pursuit
corralling
us
into
the
square,
surrounded
by
an
extreme
show
of
force
that
people
have
detailed
earlier
ordering
us
to
disperse
at
a
moment's
notice
and
then
quickly,
charging
towards
the
group
and
firing
tear
gas
and
pepper
bullets.
Where
are
those
details
in
the
report?
S
This
police-led
escalation
has
been
well
documented
by
written
and
photo
and
video
accounts
and
for
cpd
and
the
city.
I
would
add
to
disregard
that
evidence
in
the
after
action
report
and
through
media
interviews
and
public
comments
is
not
only
disingenuous
but
also
a
clear
breach
of
public
safety
and
law
enforcement.
Duty
simply
put
the
escalation
and
acts
of
aggression
on
the
afternoon
of
may,
31st
came
from
police,
not
protesters,
and
I'm
a
firsthand
witness
to
that
also,
I
would
add,
as
a
strategic
communications
advisor
to
public
and
private
sector
leaders
across
the
country.
S
Lastly,
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
did
not
address
the
fact
that
cpd's
consistent
framing
of
quote-unquote
riots
and
quote-unquote
unlawful
assembly
since
may
31st
distracts
from
the
central
issue
of
these
peaceful
protests,
which
is
that
black
lives
matter.
Thank
you
all.
For
the
time.
B
B
T
Definitely,
my
name
is
frank
knack,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
aclu
of
south
carolina
and
also
a
resident
of
james
island.
T
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
very
much
for
this
opportunity
to
testify
today
and
for
for
your
willingness
to
hear
and
take
public
comment
on
this
very
important
matter,
and
I
think
just
to
give
it
some
freeing
before
I
dig
into
our
concerns
with
the
report.
T
You
know,
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
remember
that
what
the
role
of
policing
around
protests
should
be,
and
that
is
that
the
role
of
police
is
to
protect
protesters
and
to
engage
in
de-escalation
when
necessary,
neither
of
which
happened.
That
day,
I
arrived
in
marion
square
that
day
around
3
30
as
a
legal
observer,
and
what
I
witnessed
couldn't
be
different
than
what
I
read
in
the
report
submitted
by
cpd.
T
I
wanted
to
touch
on
four
specific
areas
where
we
had
serious
concerns,
and
these
are
all
in
the
document
that
we
had
submitted
to
everyone
on
this
committee
last
week,
as
ali
mentioned
earlier,
one
is
serious,
factual
inaccuracies
and
emissions.
The
second
is
the
use
of
inflammatory
and
passive
language.
T
The
third
is
the
massive
amount
of
community
of
control
over
community
members
that
cpd
assumes
it.
It
maintains
that
was
present.
That
was
clear
from
this
report
in
the
fourth
area,
is
cbt's,
clear
violation
of
its
own
department
policies
and
to
dig
into
each
of
these
a
little
bit
regarding
the
factual,
inaccuracies
and
omissions.
T
The
report
talks
about
the
police
use
of
force,
beginning
after
protesters
threw
objects
at
them.
You
know
I
was
there.
When
this
began,
I
saw
no
such
objects.
I
had
a
very
clear
view
of
what
was
happening
at
the
time.
That
is
something
that,
at
least
from
what
I
could
tell
and
from
all
the
other
folks
we
have
spoken
with,
did
not
happen.
T
In
addition,
we
had
sent
numerous
letters
to
cpd
into
the
city
over
the
past
couple
months
to
specifically
addressing
our
concerns
with
what
happened
on
may
31st
and
have
not
received
an
adequate
response,
but
I
think
it
is
important
to
note
in
the
response
we
received
on
june
22
from
the
city
of
charleston.
T
There
was
no
mention
of
any
violent
actions
by
protesters
in
justifying
the
police
action,
so
I'm
curious
what
has
happened
between
june
22nd
and
now
to
all
of
a
sudden
have
as
a
justification,
something
that
they
didn't
talk
about
in
their
earlier
letter
to
us.
In
fact,
in
that
letter
it
seemed
to
imply
that
they
were
justifying
the
actions
on
what
had
happened
the
evening
before
which,
as
I'll
get
to
later
conflicts
with
their
own
internal
department
policies.
T
And
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
we've
heard
cpd
at
least
on
one
occasion,
if
not
more
talk
about
that,
they
have
not
heard
any
complaints
from
the
community
and
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
they
mean
by
that
when
we
know
that
there
have
been
numerous
complaints
made
by
folks,
including
us,
including
others
and
eastside
community
leaders,
in
particular,
about
the
violence
that
occurred
that
evening.
I'm
not
sure
it's
because
they
haven't
gone
through
their
formal
cpd.
T
I
just
really
appreciate
this
process.
I
hope
you
all
will
take
a
deep
look
at
our
letter
that
we
submitted
and
recognized
that
the
image
and
reality
of
cpd
is
quite
different.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
U
What
I'd
like
to
say
is,
I
guess
my
opinion
differs
from
the
previous
speakers.
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
going
through
this
process,
and
I
want
to
also
thank
you
for
getting
what
unexpectedly
happened
on
may
30th
not
to
allow
it
to
happen
again
on
may
31st
and
also
without
the
loss
of
any
life
or
anybody
getting
hurt,
and
I
don't
even
me
I
mean
as
well
as
the
lost.
I
mean
the
police
lives
as
well.
I
want
to
thank
you.
I
fully
support
your
effort.
U
U
B
K
My
name's
kelly
goodlow
before
I
start
I
just
wanted
to
respond.
I
heard
the
chief
say
how
thankful
he
was
for
the
agencies
who
supported
charleston
police
department,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
note
that
the
help
charleston
police
department
received
from
sled
was
the
most
aggressive
and
violent
policing
I've
ever
witnessed
and
it
was
wrong
and
we
are
not
thankful
for
it.
L
K
On
august
29th,
I
stood
with
a
group
who
gathered
at
marion
square
to
remember
the
victims
of
police
silence
and
to
reiterate
the
following
goals
of
our
protest
to
prioritize
african
american
businesses
to
support
the
phillips
community
to
support
local
housing
trust
funds
to
fully
fund
public
schools,
to
revise
u.s
history
and
english
curriculum
to
accurately
portray
african-american
history
and
culture
to
have
parent
advocates
at
all.
Schools
for
statewide
police
department,
racial
bias,
audits
to
repeal
the
heritage
act
and
to
demilitarize
the
police
and
divest
funds
from
the
police
department
to
reinvest
in
the
community.
K
K
K
K
As
the
protest
moved
on
down
the
sidewalks,
we
found
ourselves
trapped
and
detained
between
two
lines
of
police
and
riot
gear.
It
was
confusing
and
it
was
scary.
I
asked
an
officer
parked
in
the
street
with
his
window
down
why
they
were
doing
this.
What
they
wanted
us
to
do
and
how
could
we
leave
safely?
K
He
ignored
all
my
questions
and
rolled
up
his
window.
Looking
right
past
me,
the
charleston
police
department
mission
states
that
the
police
department
wants
to
respect
all
peop
sorry
wants
to
serve
all
people
with
respect,
fairness
and
compassion.
This
wasn't
respect.
This
wasn't
fairness,
and
this
wasn't
compassion.
K
E
Q
Ma'am
hi,
my
name
is
madison
martinborough
and
I'm
a
student
at
the
college
of
charleston
and
I'm
speaking
today,
not
because
I
was
at
the
protest
but
because
I'm
speaking
as
a
concerned,
citizen
myself,
along
with
many
people,
I'm
sure,
have
all
seen
the
videos
with
a
protest,
including
the
video
of
a
woman
who
was
literally
being
walked
over
and
the
dozens
of
videos
showing
police
led
escalation
that
occurred
in
marion
square.
Q
Q
It
was
3
30
in
marion
square,
I
believe-
and
there
was
a
group
of
people
peacefully
protesting
and
then
a
large
large
group
of
law
enforcement
officers
from
multiple
departments
arrived
wearing
pads
gas
masks
and
helmets
and
were
accompanied
by
at
least
one
armored
vehicle
demanding
that
all
protesters
disperse,
not
only
were
they
arresting
people
and
firing
projectiles.
But
the
cpd
also
very
broadly
declared
the
protest
unlawful
and
arrested
people
for
disobeying
a
lawful
order,
even
though
there
were
no
underlying
crimes
that
took
place
that
day.
Q
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
about
that
and
also
recognize
that
the
act
of
declaring
a
protest
in
a
public
space
is
unlawful,
is
quite
unconstitutional,
especially
when
it
was
in
fact
peaceful.
Watching
these
protests
and
seeing
the
way
it
was
handled.
To
be
honest,
was
very
sad.
It
was
very
excessive.
Q
It
didn't
represent
our
community
well,
and
it
was
honestly
scary
to
see
that
this
is
how
trained
professionals
dealt
with
the
situation
that,
through
the
many
videos
and
personal
experiences
and
stories
that
I
heard
was
not
actually
a
violent
protest,
and
this
really
shouldn't
have
happened.
As
I
said
in
the
first
place-
and
there
does
need
to
be
more
transparency
with
law
enforcement
and
why
these
events
occurred,
the
way
they
did.
Q
The
report
was
really
filled
with
passing
references
to
the
violence
by
law
enforcement
that
weren't
specific
and
very
broad,
and,
as
someone
previously
mentioned
before,
you
know
this
was
a
group
of
young
college,
kids,
18
year
olds
and
19
year
olds.
This
should
not
have
occurred
the
way
it
did
and
there
needs
to
be
more
accountability,
and
I
really
quickly
want
to
comment
one
of
the
comments
I
read.
Q
While
I
was
signing
up
to
speak,
it
was
talking
about
how
we're
just
trying
to
politicize
this,
and
I
just
want
to
say
forever
watching
and
to
you
all
that
this
is
not
something
any
of
us
today
are
trying
to
politicize
politicize.
Q
It's
not
a
political
issue,
it's
100
bipartisan
because
it
affects
all
of
us
and
how
we
handle
situations
with
our
citizens.
It's
an
american
issue
and
nobody
that
I
know
at
least
is
trying
to
politicize.
This
people
are
simply
trying
to
have
their
first
amendment
rights
protected
without
being
grouped
in
as
writers.
E
E
N
M
D
Yeah,
there's
someone:
I
just
got
a
message
that
someone
is
on
by
the
name
of
kelly
shell,
who
tried
to
sign
up.
I
think
her
name
was
called
so
she
is
on
the
line
yeah.
B
V
Hi,
I
am
now
with
you.
Can
you
hear
me.
V
My
name
is
callie
shell
and
I
have
I
work
for
cnn
and
time
magazine
and
I
have
call
covered
political
unrest
for
35
years,
and
I
do
understand
that
everything
you
guys
are-
and
I
say
guys
I
haven't
seen
any
women,
but
you
know
what
you're
trying
to
do
is
hard,
but
I
have
read
your
entire
report
and
I
would
like
to
state
that
I
was
there
that
day
and
my
19
year
old
or
18
year,
old
son
at
the
time
was
also
there
taking
photographs
for
the
wando
newspaper.
V
So
I
have
gone
back
and
read
your
report
and
gone
through
all
of
our
images
and
what
kind
of
concerns
me
is
with
all
due
respect.
There
are
a
lot
of
inaccuracies
of
what
happened
on
the
day
of
may
31st
and
as
a
person
who
grew
up
in
charleston
and
stood
in
france's
marion
square,
I
was
pretty
horrified
so
quickly.
V
I
know
things
happened
the
night
before,
but
at
the
time-
and
we
have
photographs-
I
just
want
to
say
everything
I'm
talking
about
is
based
on
the
images
and
all
our
images
capture
the
time
at
the
time
that
police
officers
were
in
gas
masks
and
fully
armed
at
tier
three.
It
was
not
later
in
the
afternoon.
It
was
three
o'clock.
I
will
note
that
a
lot
of
our
images,
the
more
aggressive
officers,
were
definitely
the
sheriff's
sheriff's
department.
V
But
what
makes
me
nervous
about
the
report
is
the
inaccuracies.
So
I
just
a
couple
of
quick
things.
I'd
like
to
note
in
the
portion
of
one
to
three
pm
the
bridge.
Actually,
there
were
never
50,
there
were
less
than
50
people
there.
I
went
and
counted
every
single
person
in
the
photographs
and
the
lane
was
being
blocked
by
officers
and
a
large
vehicle
when
the
group
was
asked
to
disperse
and
they
were
asked
a
couple
of
times,
but
they
did
and
it
was
done
over
a
bullhorn.
V
V
And
I
don't
know
if
susan
anybody
would
like
to
see
them,
but
as
you
do
the
tick
tock
there
are
photographs
of
protesters
laying
on
the
ground
with
their
hands
on
their
back.
At
one
point
they
get
up,
they
are
greeted
by
fully
armed
officers
with
gas
masks
on
with
the
shields
down.
At
one
point,
when
you
look
in
the
photographs,
you
see
officers
sheriff's
deputies
approaching
these
young
people,
their
hands
are
in
the
air.
They
have
nothing
on
them.
Their
billy
clubs
are
out.
V
There
are
actually
photographs
of
officers
who
take
their
billy
clubs
around
the
backs
of
these
females
and
pull
in
to
their
backs.
There
are
other
photographs
of
officers,
shooting
rubber
bullets
into
an
another
woman's
chest
and
stomach.
Actually,
all
these
photographs
can
be
seen
on
instagram.
The
scary
thing
that
happened
during
this
part
is
there
are
also
photographs
of
a
is
that
two
minutes.
Okay,.
B
You
know,
let
me
just
tell
you
this:
if
there's
something
you
want
to
share,
we'll
give
you
an
email
address
or
you
can
drop
it
off
physically,
but
if
there's
something
you
want
to
share
with
photographs
or
other
documents,
we're
glad
to
receive
that
from
you.
B
Yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you,
bye-bye,
okay,
okay,
so
that
was
cali
shell,
and
that
was
actually
our
second
person
on
the
list
and
I'm
down
to
number
12.
bethany.
E
E
E
B
Stuart
are
you
available
please.
E
E
R
Hi,
can
everyone
hear
me
yes,
very
clear?
Okay,
great,
my
name
is
zachary
swanson
and
I
am
speaking
as
a
very
concerned
citizen.
The
charleston
police
department
made
the
following
statement
in
their
preliminary
report
regarding
the
may
30th
and
may
31st
protest
in
charleston
quote.
It
is
important
to
acknowledge
that
the
vast
majority
of
protesters
there
were
approximately
two
thousand
present
remained
peaceful
and
were
legitimately
exercising
their
first
amendment
rights.
R
Why,
then,
did
officers
engage
in
acts
of
violence,
deploying
chemical
weapons
and
rubber
bullets
against
these
same
peaceful
protesters?
The
answer
is
clear
as
day
it
was
an
act
of
revenge.
The
police
were
angry,
that
their
image
had
been
tarnished
by
property
damage
on
may
30th
and
so
on
may
31st.
They
responded
in
full
force
attacking
these
peaceful
protesters
for
absolutely
no
reason
their
reason.
Their
reasoning
for
declaring
the
protest
unlawful
is
asinine.
At
best,
the
report
mentions
isolated
instances
of
property
damage
and
water
bottles
thrown
at
police
officers.
R
The
police
then
decided
that
the
appropriate
response
to
these
minor
incidents
was
severe
collective
punishment.
Not
only
were
weapons
used
against
against
the
peaceful
protesters,
but
many
were
arrested
simply
for
being
there
and
exercising
their
first
amendment
rights
in
a
public
forum.
Seemingly
aware
of
the
unlawfulness
of
these
arrests,
dozens
of
these
protesters
later
had
their
charges
drop
completely
dropped
months
later,
charleston
police
department
should
do
the
right
thing
and
dismiss
all
charges
from
may
31st
the
city
count.
V
B
All
right
so
bethany,
I
have
kyle
on
middleton,
nancy,
moore
and
stewart,
and
I
didn't
get
stuart's
last
name.
E
E
Yes,
sir
kylon
middleton,
if
you
are
on
the
line,
please
press
star
six
to
unmute
yourself.
E
W
B
W
W
We
look
at
flooding,
we
look
at
climate
change
and
now
we're
looking
at
civil
unrest
and
how
we
could
do
things
better
in
the
city
of
charleston.
So
I'm
proud
now
I
wasn't
proud
on
may
30th
or
may
31st,
but
I'm
proud
now,
because
once
again
you
guys
never
stop
looking
at
yourselves
to
make
sure
that
this
is
the
best
place
to
live
in
the
united
states.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
B
If
you're
not
talking
would
ask
you
go
ahead
and
mute
yourself
again
for
us,
please.
Thank
you.
So
just
a
couple
of
closing
comments
and
remind
everybody
that
the
report
that
has
been
released
is
a
preliminary
report.
Part
of
the
process
is
to
receive
input
from
the
community.
B
B
B
Captain
thompson
are
you
with
us.
I
can't
tell
if
you're
in
the
main
room
with
with
the
chief
and
heather
I
am
here.
Okay,
and
so
can
you
just
elaborate
as
a
quickly
as
to
this
email
that
we
received
a
copy
of,
or
are
you
encouraging
folks
to
respond
back
to
you
with
that
email
address
absolutely.
X
We're
just
looking
for
anyone
in
the
community
that
wants
to
a
little
bit
more
of
a
follow-up.
We
want
to
hear
their
story.
We
want
to
hear
how
we
can
improve
and
any
feedback
that
they
have
from
may
30th
and
31st,
so
just
one
more
step
to
we're
going
to
leave
it
open
for
30
days
and
so
to
give
city
council,
our
citizens,
advisory
council
and
several
of
them
other
members
in
the
community
to
identify
individuals
that
would
like
to
take
one
step
further
and
participate
in
this
after
action.
B
So
if
you,
where
can
they
find
that
email
address,
is
that
online
somewhere
at
cpd
website
or
is
it.
X
Yes,
sirs
under
the
police
page
on
the
city's
ema
website
and
listed
under
captains,
captain
dustin
thompson.
B
B
Thank
you,
sir
appreciate
that
so
folks,
if
you
have
something
that
you
want
to
officially
comment
on,
if
you
want
to
share
in
written
form
which
you
have
spoken
about
and
callie,
I
think
you
have
some
photographs
that
you
wanted
to
share.
Please
send
that
to
captain
thompson
we
received
that
heather.
I
will
call
on
you.
I
think
you've
got
some
other
information
that
you're
still
gathering
is
that
correct.
N
Yes,
since
our
last
meeting,
I
have
started
to
gather
some
property
damage
information
from
the
businesses
as
discussed
at
the
last
meeting,
and
we
have
additionally
started
the
process
of
collecting
other
information
from
the
public
which
dustin
just
referred
to.
So
we
are
in
that
process
right
now,
all
right.
B
U
N
B
Much
for
that
heather
out
chief
reynolds
any
further
closing
comments.
H
Sure
first,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
participating
in
this
evening
and
want
everyone
who
participated
to
know
that
the
charleston
police
department
values
and
appreciates
everyone's
comments.
H
H
Your
comments
will
assist
us
in
making
improvements
and
helping
us
adapt
and
helping
our
city
be
in
a
better
place,
and
I
know
that
one
of
the
things
when
you're
done,
I
think,
with
this
portion
that
you
had
asked
me,
was
to
speak
just
briefly
about
the
elections.
B
Yes,
sir,
and
I
will
come
back
to
that
in
just
one
second
chief
and
thanks
for
reminding
me
about
that
part.
So
mayor
is
any
closing
comments
you
wish
to
to
make
and
now
then
I'll
ask
any
of
our
city
council
members.
If
they
have
a
closing
comment.
A
Many
of
you
who
who
did
participate
tonight
may
know
someone
else
who
was
there
that
day
or
the
day
before
and
please
feel
free
to
share
captain
thompson's
address.
So
we
we're
we're
open
to
hear
additional
comments
and
experiences
that
happen
over
that
weekend
and
take
it
all
into
account.
So
just
thank
you
for
participating.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Many
members
of
our
on
city
council.
Excuse
me
any
members
of
city
council
wish
to
make
any
further
comments.
Members
of
the
committee
or
any
anybody
else,
okay,.
F
Just
very
briefly,
mr
chairman,
I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
members
of
the
community
that
took
time
out
to
make
comment
tonight
and
please
know
that
we
are
listening,
and
all
of
this
will
be
taken
into
account
not
only
through
this
report
but
as
we
move
forward
as
a
community.
So
I
think
this
public
input
has
been
very,
very
beneficial
to
all
of
us.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
sir
appreciate
that
any
other
council
member
okay,
I'll
close
out
in
a
few
seconds,
but
I
do
want
to
just
call
on
the
chief
I
have
received-
and
I
think
other
members
of
council
may
have
as
well
numerous
inquiries
as
to
what
to
expect
with
coming
up
with
our
election
next
week
and
I've
been
in
contact
with
the
chief.
I
think
this
is
something
people
are
concerned
about
with
the
election
next
tuesday
and
chief.
B
You
want
to
comment
about
what
is
going
on
locally
and
statewide,
and
I
think,
even
nationally,
with
police
preparation.
H
Yeah,
so
we've
been
on
calls
and
spoken
with
our
counterparts
around
the
country.
We've
spoken
to
people
around
the
state.
I
participate
in
a
call
with
the
mayor's
office
with
the
mayor
and
the
board
of
elections.
H
The
sheriff
sheriff's
office
has
an
action
plan
for
the
county
and
we're
participating
in
that,
and-
and
I
think
that
the
biggest
point
I
think
that
I
would
make-
is
that
we're
all
working
together
we're
communicating
every
day
about
information
that
may
be
received
and
throughout
the
election
the
day
before
the
night
of
the
day
of
and
the
days
following,
we
have
a
staffing
plan
where
we've
modified
people's
days
off
and
have
a
high
level
focus
on
making
sure
that
we
have
a
safe
and
successful
election
and
that
we
work
closely
with
the
polls
and
if
there's
information,
that's
received
or
there's
a
threat
or
there's
an
event
that
needs
our
protection
and
our
response
that
we're
doing
that
appropriately
and
efficiently
and
in
conjunction
with
each
other,
we've
met
in
person
with
the
area
chiefs
and
and
staffs
with
me
tonight.
H
Actually,
jason
bruner
who's
actually
authored
an
incident
action
plan
for
the
charleston
police
department
and
he's
done
that
in
conjunction
with
all
the
other
agencies
in
the
region.
So
there's
a
lot
of
conversation.
H
There's
a
lot
of
preparation
and
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
questions
about
that,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
let
our
communities
know
that
we're
paying
close
attention
to
the
information
as
it
comes
out.
Some
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
about
even
just
basic
logistics
of
what
happens.
If
there's
not
a
clear
winner,
what
happens
with
the
mail-in
ballots?
What
happens
with
different
things
like
that?
And
how
does
that
affect
the
news
cycle
and
the
information
that
is
released?
And
so
whatever
we
do?
D
Thank
you,
sir.
Just
a
quick
question
chief.
Is
there
any
planning
or
effort
for
charleston
county
board
of
elections
to
send
some
information
out
just
for
boaters
to
feel
more
safe
when
they
come
out
to
the
polls
given
the
the
environment
that
we're
in
just
wondering,
if
there's
any
kind
of
concerted
effort
or
any
kind
of
communication
that
you
know
that's
going
out,
you.
H
Know
that's
a
good
question
mayor.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
speak
to
that
or
jason,
but
I
know
that
they
are
very
in
tuned
to
that
issue
and,
like
I
said,
we've
met
in
person.
We've
met
by
zoom.
We've
talked
about
that.
If
there's
an
issue,
for
example,
in
a
polling
place
outside
the
city,
we'll
be
immediately
aware
of
that.
H
If
there's
trends,
if
there's
a
concern,
if
there's
an
activity
who's
allowed
in
the
polling
places
who's,
not
how
their
logistics
work
mayor,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
speak
to
that,
but
I
know
that
we're
in
close
contact.
I
can't
speak
for
their
pio
and
and
that
information
that's
a
good
suggestion,
and
maybe
we
can
kind
of
connect
with
them
tomorrow
to
make
that
recommendation.
B
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
information
and
councilman
sankram
sacrament.
Thank
you
for
that
that
question
we'll
follow
back
out
of
that.
So
folks,
next
tuesday
is
election
day.
If
you
have
not
voted,
I
can
only
encourage
you
to
please
go
out
and
vote.
I
voted
at
the
charleston
library,
not
this
monday,
but
the
monday
before
it
was
easy.
It
was
fast,
it
was
well
run.
I
was
very
proud
of
our
county
delegation
how
they
operated
that
voting
process.
B
B
One
of
the
things
that
has
just
generally
impressed
me
is
that
this
is
part
of
the
most
purest
form
of
democracy.
When
we
get
to
hear
from
you
that
we
we
open
ourselves
up
to
hear
from
the
public,
this
is
critical.
We
we
do
this
on
some
things
that
we
consider
a
little
more
mundane,
I'm
dealing
with
issues
of
zoning
and
land
use
or
when
we
have
citizen
input
on
planning
things
from
projects
around
the
city,
but
we
try
our
best
to
open
ourselves
up
to
hear
from
you.
This
is
your
city.
B
As
captain
thompson
mentioned
to
you
a
few
moments
ago,
we
will
keep
this
process
open
for
another
30
days,
so
encourage
folks
to
send
emails
at
that
address
to
send
in
information.
So
we
can
make
this
report
as
complete
as
possible
and
as
transparent
as
as
possible.
That
is
important
to
all
of
us
once
that
information
is
received
and
we'll
be
a
little
pushy
and
try
to
get
the
department
to
complete
the
report
before
the
end
of
the
year.
B
That
may
not
be
feasible
because
there
may
be
more
information
that
comes
in
and
may
take
some
more
time
for
them
to
run
down
some
other
information,
but
that's
our
goal.
Our
goal
is
to
then
have
a
final
draft,
submit
it
to
council,
for
approval
and
for
us
to
to
move
on,
hopefully
be
a
better
city
and
a
better
police
department
and
a
better
community.
B
So
with
with
that
again,
I
thank
everybody
who
has
been
listening
into
this.
I
thank
everybody
who
has
called
in
this
is
important
for
all
of
us.
We
do
want
to
make
sure
our
community
is
safe.
We
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
balance
our
interests
with
folks
who
have
an
absolute
right
to
to
free
speech
and
assembly
that
is
important
to
us
as
well.
So
we
appreciate
the
comments.