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City of Charleston Committee on Public Safety 2/7/22
A
All
right,
we've
got
a
quorum
present
and
we
have
a
pretty
full
agenda.
A
A
This
morning
you
I
received
a
text
and
a
phone
call
that
we
don't
want
to
receive
early
in
the
morning.
That
was
a
major
fire
had
broken
out
at
the
palms
apartments
off
of
orange
grove
road
mayor
teckerberg,
and
I
went
out
there
this
morning
early
on
it
was
a.
I
don't
know,
chief
courier,
what
what
level
a
four
hole
on
fire
or
how
you
would
classify
it,
but
we
had
firemen
from,
of
course,
from
the
city
police
department.
A
A
They
were
there
for
several
hours
and
the
work
they
did
was
just
top
top
notch,
and
I
know
the
mayor
and
I
were
busy
trying
to
help
coordinate
some
relief
efforts
for
those
families
who
were
displaced
in
finding
them
a
shelter
and
getting
some
some
food,
and
I
know
chief
courier
before
we
get
into
the
meat
of
our
meeting
today.
Is
there
anything
that
I'm
missing?
B
Yes,
yes,
thank
you
and
one.
I
have
to
apologize
to
everybody.
I
just
hopped
in
my
car,
I'm
just
leaving
the
scene.
That's
why
my
video
isn't
on,
but
you
know,
all
I
can
say
is
it
was
an
incredibly
challenging
fire
and
it
seemed
as
though
balls
were
being
thrown
at
the
firefighters
every
time
they
turned
around
and
everything
that
was
was
thrown
at
them.
They
they
dealt
with
and
they
dealt
with
it
very
admirably.
B
This
this
fire
went
to
a
third
alarm,
which
is
incredibly
rare
to
have
that
many
resources.
So
we
had
26
pieces
of
apparatus
over
100
firefighters.
We
really
we
really
stripped
out
of
the
city
of
charleston,
st
andrews
and
most
of
north
charleston
helped
with
this
fire,
but
that's
really
the
benefit
of
the
automatic
aid
that
all
our
neighbors
in
charleston
share.
So
I
couldn't
be
more
proud
and
I'm
sure
the
next.
A
I
know
you've
been
up
several
hours;
they
actually
put
you
to
work
today.
I
understand
as
well,
so
just
so
grateful
for
your
leadership,
fire
department
and
mayor
anything
else
that
you
may
want
to
add
about
the
days
of
this
morning,
events
and
the
work
of
our
fire
department.
A
C
I
I'm
sorry
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
It
was
a
remarkable
effort
by
our
all
of
our
public
safety
officials
also
want
to
shout
out
to
the
red
cross
and
the
other
community
support
we've
already
received.
I
know
you
went
to
publix,
I
went
to
harris
teeter
and
they
filled
my
suv
up
with
food
coffee.
C
You
know,
and
I
was
running
it
back
and
you
know
everybody
has
just
been
very
responsive,
but
having
said
that,
56
individuals
and
families
have
been
dislocated
from
their
apartments
and
you
all
know
that
affordable
housing
is
limited.
C
These
families
are
really
going
to
need
some
assistance
red
cross
handles
that,
but
we
need
to
support
the
red
cross
and
the
other
service
providers
we're
calling
in
the
united
way
to
help
and
other
service
agencies
who
can
be
of
assistance
to
these
56
families.
Some
are
just
individuals,
but
many
are
families
as
well.
So
we
we're
going
to
have
their
back
and
and
and
thanks
to
the
effort
so
far,
but
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
relief
effort
for
the
next
couple
of
months
to
kind
of
get
them
re-situated.
C
A
There
was
one
gentleman
that
the
mayor
and
I
talked
to
elderly
man.
I
think
he
had
been
living
in
that
apartment
since
his
70s
mayor.
I
can't
remember,
but
everything
that
he
owned
went
up
there
and
smoked
all
gone.
So
that's
right
overall
moment
of
silence.
Let's
just
let's
keep
our
thoughts
and
our
prayers.
A
Those
families
have
been
displaced,
our
thoughts,
our
prayers
to
the
brave
men
and
women
of
our
first
responders,
and
just
give
a
moment
of
silence
for
thanks
for
the
lack
of
loss
of
life
and
lack
of
loss
of
any
injuries
to.
A
Thank
you
all
right.
We
have
our
december
20th
2021
minutes
I'll,
entertain
a
motion
to
adopt
our
minutes
for
approval.
Is
there
a
second
second
all
in
favor,
signified
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
eyes?
Have
it
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
for
the
day
is
to
hear
from
our
legal
counsel
and
our
one
and
only
dan
riccio
on
information
they
can
give
us
regarding
noise
ordinances.
A
I
brought
this
up
to
our
attention,
particularly
regarding
noise
that
travels
across
the
river
from
lounge
grove
area,
to
literally
my
backyard
and
a
lot
of
complaints
from
some
residents
about
that.
So
I
asked
dan
and
julia
to
look
at
what
sort
of
the
state
of
where
we
are
with
these
various
noise
ordinances
and
information
purposes.
Just
give
us
an
update
where
we
are
with
all
of
that.
D
Great
thank
you
councilman,
shade,
chairman
members
of
council,
so
yeah
several
weeks
ago,
you
asked
us
to
put
together
just
a
presentation
to
show
you
what
our
neighboring
jurisdictions
are
doing
with
regard
to
noise
and
how
they're
handling
it
by
their
ordinance.
D
So
melissa,
cruthers
is
our
newest
lawyer
who
has
joined
the
team,
so
I
thought
what
better
way
to
torture
our
newest
lawyer
by
giving
her
this
fun
task
of
providing
an
overview
for
you
to
see
and
then,
of
course,
dan
and
we've
got
dustin
here
as
well
to
answer
any
questions
when
it
comes
to
enforcement
and
what
they're
going
through
with
the
city.
So
if
the
clerk
has
allowed
us
to
share
I'll
pass
this
off
to
melissa,
cruithers.
E
Hi
everyone
thank
you
for
letting
me
join
your
team.
Yes,
this
was
the
very
first
assignment
julia
gave
me
so
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
So
what
I've
done
is-
and
I
think
some
of
you
have
received
it-
I've
given
you
a
short
comparison
of
noise
ordinances
from
the
city,
the
county,
mount
pleasant,
berkeley,
columbia,
savannah
it's
hard
to
do
a
side-by-side
comparison
of
these
because
they're
so
different.
E
So
I
tried
the
best
that
I
could
with
what
I
had
just
as
a
side
note.
I
did
not
include
the
city
soundtrack
ordinance
because,
as
you
can
see,
it's
unwieldy
enough
as
it
is,
and
that
would
have
just
made
it
worser
right.
That's
an
official
word
right.
E
E
Can
everyone
see
that
or
yes
all
right,
so
we're
just
a
table
of
contents?
Real
quick
on
the
left
side
is
kind
of
a
capsule.
Julia
asked
me
to
focus
on
two
areas
really
amplified
sound
and
motor
vehicles.
That
seems
to
kind
of
be
where
a
lot
of
the
complaints
come
from.
E
So
that's
going
to
be
on
in
the
capsule
summary
and
then
I
also
included
most
major
other
ordinances
and
they
have
just
some
general
prohibitions,
some
music
and
then
just
some
case
law
at
the
very
end,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
those
but
they're
there
if
you
want
them.
E
So
if
we
look
at
sounds
the
the
city,
you
know
we
have
ordinances
that
cover
amplified
sound
non-ample,
sound,
sound
and
clamorous
sounds
which
disturbs
the
peace
and
quiet
other.
You
know,
localities
have
you
know,
ordinances
that
don't
specifically
cover
amplified
sound,
but
it's
included,
it
doesn't
say
the
words
amplified
sound,
but
it's
included
in
the
overall
noise
ordinance.
E
So
you
know
there's
a
couple
of
ways
to
skin
this
cat,
and
one
of
them
joey
asked
me
to
look
at.
Is
you
know,
do
any
of
these
localities
measure
in
decibels
with
a
sound
meter
and
do
officers
have
to
make
any
judgment
calls
in
an
enforcement?
And
so
that's
what
this
first
table
is
it's
for
amplified
sound.
Only
so
not
you
know,
comparing
any
of
the
other
noise
ordinances
just
amplify
sound.
E
E
The
officers
don't
have
to
make
any
judgment
calls
on
the
amplified.
Sound.
It
just
is
what
it
is.
Charleston
county,
no
decibel
measurements
officers,
don't
have
to
make
any
judgment
calls,
but
then
you
see
in
mount
pleasant
and
berkeley
and
columbia.
The
officers
do
have
to
make
some
judgment
calls
so,
and
it
seems
that
savannah
is
the
only
one
that
has
decimal
measurements
for
amplified.
Sounds
of
these
that
I've
looked
at.
E
If
you
look
at
the
city
of
charleston
ordinance,
the
the
conduct
that
you're
regulating
is
when
someone
is
playing
a
radio
or
an
amplified
musical
instrument
or
other
amplified
device
and
then
where
it's
occurring
right,
so
are
they
playing
it
in
a
private
outdoor
area
or
from
an
open
window
or
door
opening,
or
is
it
transmitted
through
a
speaker
or
mounted
on
exterior
restructure?
E
Is
it
occurring
between
11
pm
and
7
am,
and
can
it
be
heard
on
a
public
street
or
public
right-of-way?
That's
what
you're
looking
at
it's
pretty
simple
mean
just
check
the
boxes,
the
county.
You
know
it's
it's
a
little
simpler,
but
it's
basically
the
same
thing:
can
it
be
heard
within
a
residence?
E
So
that's
that's
a
little
different
than
audible
on
public
street
and
then
mount
pleasant
is
cannot
be
heard
in
a
inside
anywhere
in
a
a
house
or
a
hotel,
and
there
is
some
discretion
there,
because
does
it
annoy
or
disturb
the
reasonable
quiet,
comfort
or
repose
of
someone
colombia
is
just
basically
can
it
be
heard
in
the
vicinity.
E
E
And
berkeley
county
just
enacted
a
brand
new
ordinance,
it
is
very
discretionary,
so
the
conduct
is,
you
know,
are
you
making
a
loud
or
boisterous
or
unpleasant
or
unreasonable
or
disturbing
the
public
peace?
Is
it
excessive?
Is
it
a
nuisance?
Is
it
unnecessary?
Is
it
a
natural?
So
that's
a
lot
of
judgment
calls
officers
have
to
make
and
in
savannah
it's
decimal
measurement
and
where
it
can
be
heard
there
you
go.
E
So
that
is
kind
of
amplified
sound.
Do
we
want
to
take
questions
now?
If
we
want
to
take
questions
at
all,
or
do
we
want
to
move
on
to
motor
vehicles
chairman
once.
E
E
Is
it
loud
and
necessary
and
does
it
disturb
the
peace
and
quiet
they
also
have
to
look
at
where
it
occurs
the
hours
it
occurs
and
where
the
sound
can
be
heard
in
charleston
county
there's,
no,
no
discretion,
but
they
have
decimal
measurements
for
large
vehicles,
which
I
think
is
over
ten
thousand
dollars
and
same
kind
of
things
in
in
colombia
and
savannah
berkeley
county
in
mount
pleasant.
They
don't
have
anything
specific
to
motor
vehicles,
just
kind
of
encompass
all
into
their
one
noise
ordinance.
E
So
the
motor
vehicles
in
the
city
is,
are
you
operating
it
in
it
emits
loud
and
unnecessary,
or
long
continued
noise
that
disturbs
the
peace
and
quiet
of
the
city?
And
yes,
I
do
know
how
to
spell
quiet.
I'm
sorry,
and
so
you
know
in
the
time
the
conduct
occurs
daytime
or
night
time.
So
really
there
is
no
parameter
there
and
does
it
occur.
Is
this
sound
occurring
on
a
public
street
on
private
property
or
within
enclosure,
so
basically
anywhere
the
county
it?
E
Actually,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
discretion
there
in
the
county,
savannah,
there's
no
discretion,
it's
it's
kind
of
what
it
is,
I'm
not
going
to
read
it
to
you.
I
always
hate
you
when
professors
did
it
for
me,
I
read
the
slide.
Columbia
is
you
know
not
a
whole
lot
of
discretion?
There
you've
got
all
these
decibel
measurements
and
then
so
that's
so
what
we
have,
what
we've
just
ran
through
is
the
amplified
sound
and
the
motor
vehicles.
E
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
the
rest
of
these
just
general
prohibitions
in
detail,
but
just
you
know
other
than
the
soundtracks.
The
city
does
have
other
noise
ordinances
without
amplified.
Sounds
you
got
this
clamorous?
You
know
no
hollering
out
there
watch
out
for
that
and
then
just
all
the
other,
all
the
other
things.
So
I'm
going
to
stop
sharing
my
screen,
that's
kind
of
where
it
leaves
us
that
just
was
very
quick,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
C
So
it
it
seems,
you
know
two
routes
that
definitely
diverge
between
taking
decibel
readings
and
not-
and
you
know
things
have
changed
a
lot
since
the
city
last
considered,
I
mean
I
think
you
can
download
an
app
that
gives
you
a
bonafide
decibel
reading,
assuming
it's
a
lot
easier
than
it
used
to
be.
I
I'd
just
be
interested
to
hear
from
chief
thompson
or
anybody
else
or
or
dan
riccio
how
they
feel
about
from
enforcement
point
of
view,
whether
whether
you'd
like
decibels
or
whether
you
wouldn't.
A
D
Do
you
thank
you.
Well,
to
be
honest
with
you
mayor.
My
experience
with
decibels
is
more
complicated
than
the
ordinance
now
it's
hard
to
get
a
sustained
measurement
within
a
certain
period
of
time,
believe
it
or
not,
because
my
past
experience
with
just
testing
that
type
of
device
is
outside
norses
other
than
what
you
are
hearing
if
you're
focused,
for
example,
if
it's
a
venue
on
king
street
and
it's
loud
and
you
know
where
it's
coming
from,
you
start
the
readings
if
a
car
backfires
it
distorts
your
reading.
D
G
And
I
would
agree
with
that.
You
know
from
the
police
department's
standpoint
that
we
want
compliance
with
these
noise
calls.
You
know.
Normally
it's
we
go
over
there,
one
time
and
the
situation
is
resolved.
The
ongoing
complaints
is
what
we
have
the
most
problems
with
and
those
are
tickets,
especially
in
the
downtown
area.
So
there
are
some
places
that
we
go
to
now
and
it's
pretty
much
almost
an
automatic
ticket,
because
we've
had
issues
there.
G
G
There
have
been
some
like
businesses
where
bands
are
playing,
and
things
like
that,
we'll
note
those
and
pass
them
on
and
normally
live,
availability
will
get
involved
and
support
us
on
that.
To
try
to
work
out
a
resolution,
there's
been
some
pretty
significant
bars
with
loud
music
in
the
central
business
district
that
we've
been
able
to
work
with
to
resolve
that
issue.
A
It
seems
to
me
that
when
I
initiated
this
discussion,
that
with
the
music
traveling
across
the
river
that
it
was
outdoor
music
was
a
complaint
and
then
the
hours
of
operation,
and
so
what
I'm
hearing,
particularly
from
dustin
and
dan,
is
that
if
we
make
any
adjustments
on
this
ordinance,
it
should
be
something
that
has
a
little
bit
less
of
a
lack
of
discretion
and
something
more
clear-cut
addressing
outdoor
and
what
other
parameters
we
may
or
may
not
be
able
to
put
on
outdoor
amplified
music
and
re-examining
the
hours
of
of
operation.
A
Do
we
scale
it
back
from
11
to
10
o'clock
and
what
other
kind
of
types
of
restrictions
that
we
can
to
do
with
the
amplified
music?
But
I
think
what
I
hear
from
historically
and
anecdotally
is
when
you
try
to
enforce
decimal
levels
and
too
much
discretion
just
makes
it
too
difficult
to
enforce
if
it's
a
bright
line
restriction
that
just
makes
it
very
easy
to
kind
of
might
say
that
correctly
dan
does
that.
D
I
I
agree-
and
I
agree
the
easiest
solution
here-
to
make
a
determination
would
be
the
time
and
the
location
being
outdoors
so
to
be,
if
you
set
the
standard
at
10
pm
and
it's
1005,
that's
very
easy
to
prove
right.
You
know
other
than
you
have
to
get
three
readings
of
the
decimal
of
this
level
within
two
minutes
or
whatever
that
that
would
be
the
the
most
expedient
and
easy
to
prove
way
would
be
the
time
and
location.
D
C
A
It's
this
is
mainly
doing
the
the
weekends
fridays
and
saturdays
a
little
bit
on
sundays
as
well.
That
becomes
a
popular
time
frame.
It's
also.
H
A
Know
it's
a
venue
and
having
those
places
open.
So
that's
I
seem
to
be
the
main
issue.
I
don't
have
heard.
People
complain
about
the
middle
of
the
week.
We
date.
Mr.
H
H
So,
mr
chairman,
if
I
might
jump
in,
I
think
what
we
saw
in
the
books
works.
I
think
when
it
talked
when
we
talked
about
amplified
music,
I
think
that
dan
and
dustin
and
their
teams
do
a
pretty
good
job
at
it.
I
I
don't
know
that
this
is
an
endemic
problem.
A
I
I
can
tell
you
councilman
seeking
is
that
last
week
somebody
decided
it
was
pretty
cool
to
be
driving
up
and
down
broad
street
with
a
loud
speaker,
yelling
obscenities
that
he
did
it
whatever.
That
person
was
in
it
several
times,
and
I
you
know
I
have
talked
about
that
issue
with
vehicles
traveling
and
loud
noise
coming
from
from
vehicles
right
now,
councilman.
A
So
yeah,
the
only
the
only
tweak
I
would
have
is
exploring
reducing
that
from
11
to
10,
making
that
simple
adjustment
on
on
that.
So
all
right,
well,
melissa.
Thank
you
for
the
hard
work
on
that
we
may
be
circling
back
with
you
on
this
and
I'll
do
a
little
follow-up
with
the
with
fellow
council,
and
they
really
did
give
us
a
good
overview
of
the
status
of
these
ordinances.
A
It's
something
we
just!
I
don't
want
to
go
by
the
wayside
and
not
take
any
other
action,
but
we
do
have
some.
I
A
Things
we
need
to
be
taken
care
of
right
now,
so
keep
that
memo
handy
and
I'll
be
back
with
with
y'all
a
little
bit
later.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
well
done
appreciate
dan
and
dustin.
Thank
you
all
for
your
input
on
this
as
well.
All
right,
next
up
on
our
agenda,
is
approval
of
a
contract
renewal
in
the
amount
of
eighteen
thousand,
sixty
nine
dollars
julian.
You
could
take
care
of
that
discussion
for
us.
A
B
Yeah
this
this
is
our
low
country,
youth
services
contract.
We
actually
started
this
program,
it's
a
mentorship
program
for
youth,
and
we
started
this
back
in
december
with
help
from
the
lens
foundation
and
that
that
contract
has
ended.
We're
asking
to
pick
that
up
where
we
left
off
with
that
program,
but
this
time
it
would
be
funded
by
the
city
and
not
by
lens.
A
Okay,
any
further
discussion
on
item
number
four,
all
right:
cnn,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
all
right.
Next
item
on
our
agenda's:
approval
of
a
memorandum
of
understanding
between
the
city
and
the
department
of
veterans
affairs,
for
approaches
for
coordinating
law
enforcement,
response
to
the
things
that
happen
at
the
ralph
johnson
va
system
steve,
is
that
you
as
well.
B
Yes,
sir,
this
was
presented
to
us
by
the
va.
We've
signed
this
agreement
in
the
past
that
basically
delineates
what
our
responsibilities
are
with
regards
to
assistance
at
the
va
property,
it's
for
limited
circumstances,
hostage
situations,
robberies
and
traffic
control;
otherwise
they
have
jurisdiction
over
all
other
criminal
offenses
that
occur
at
the
va
and
apparently
this
is
something
that
is
required
and
they
send
this
to
local
law
enforcement
across
the
country.
A
B
I've
I've
got
some
news
on
this
here,
so
I
received
a
I've
been
in
contact
with
mr
crabb
from
homeland
security.
We
talked
last
week.
We
we've
been
in
contact
today.
I
just
got
a
call
from
from
dc
walker,
but
he
sends
an
email.
He
says
it's
as
if
a
higher
power
doesn't
want
me
to
do
this
briefing.
B
My
system
just
crashed
logging
back
on,
but
getting
proxy
air
and
he
said
he'd
keep
on
working
on
it,
but
I
I
don't
know
if
he's
in
the
lobby
trying
to
be
admitted,
but
he
hasn't
been
able
to
to
get
on
the
the
meeting.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
with
the
next
item
and
see
if
he
comes
on,
but
otherwise
he's
he's
not
able
to
get
on.
At
this
point.
A
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
gonna,
be
the
answer
this
thing,
but
we're
we're
just
bitten
on
this
one,
I'm
afraid.
Okay,
all
right.
Well,
thank
you
stay
on
top
of
that
steve
and
just
let
us
know
in
the
update,
if
he
somehow
pops
in
we
will
do
our
annual
update
from
the
municipal
court
system
and
we
see
three
of
our
judges
and
I
think,
judge
ferguson
euron
and
am
I
missing
somebody
I
see,
judge
morrison,
judge
medina,
judge,
maloney,
judge
ferguson.
A
So
former
lawyer
for
the
city
judge
herdina:
are
you
going
to
take
the
lead
on
this.
K
Good
afternoon,
everyone
actually,
I
sent
out
a
real
short
agenda
and
we're
going
to
try
to
keep
this
moving
along.
But
I've
asked
chief,
the
chief
judge,
judge
morrison
to
just
give
us
a
quick
overview
of
what
has
been
transpiring
in
the
court
during
these
coveted
times.
Some
of
the
challenges
we've
had
and
then
judge
maloney
and
we'll
try
to
keep
them
to
under
an
hour
is
going
to
talk
to
us
about
some
of
the
liveability
court
achievements.
K
Judge
emanuel
is
going
to
report
briefly
on
his
progress
on
dui
cases
which,
as
you
recall,
recreated
the
court
to
do
that.
Judge
byrd
is
unavailable
but
might
have.
I
might
have
a
few
things
to
say
on
her
behalf
and
then
I
also
just
want
to
update
the
the
committee
on
a
couple
of
really
positive
things
that
are
happening
in
the
court
that
are
coming
up
in
the
in
the
spring
and
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions.
So
I
guess
we'll
let
our
chief
judge
lead
it
off.
F
Thank
you,
I
think.
As
most
of
you
know,
in
2020,
when
the
chief
justice
shut
us
all
down,
everything
was
stopped.
However,
our
employees
never
stopped.
They
came
to
court
to
the
courthouse
every
day
and
did
their
jobs
they.
Unfortunately,
unlike
some
other
city,
employees,
could
not
work
from
home
what
they
did
required.
Their
presence
at
the
courthouse.
F
The
clerk
would
know
that
and
they
would
immediately
send
out
a
letter
to
that
person
telling
them
of
a
new
court
date,
because
the
chief
judge
had
shut
us
down.
It
said
there'd
be
no,
no
court,
no,
no
especially
traffic
court.
Well,
you
had
a
lot
of
people
coming
in
and
we
couldn't
do
anything
for
so
for
a
long
period
of
time.
F
Everyone
came
into
court.
If
it
was
my
week
to
come
in,
I
came
in
every
day
if
it
was
just
this
week,
he
came
in
so
we
all
came
in
every
day
when
we
were
supposed
to
and
we'd
go
over
the
dockets
with
our
clerks
and
try
to
keep
everything
going
and
keep
everything
in
order
so
that
when
the
time
came
and
the
chief
judge
opened
us
up,
we
would
be
able
to
start
court.
So,
finally,
the
chief
judge
did
say
we
could
go
in.
F
We
could
open
court,
but
we
had
to
socially
distance
everyone
silver
in
our
courtroom.
All
the
ventures
had
x
marks
on
them
six
feet
apart,
so
we
can
handle,
handle
the
cases
that
came
in,
but
he
shut
us
down,
definitely
on
jury
trials
and,
as
you
know,
a
lot
of
lawyers
will
come
in
and
they'll
ask
for
jury
trials
and
a
lot
of
individuals
come
in
and
ask
for
jury
trials
and
it
just
kept
the
dock.
F
It
just
kept
getting
bigger
and
bigger,
and
we
we
were
unable
by
the
chief
judge's
order
to
dispose
of
those
things.
So
that's
one
reason
the
docket
got
so
big,
then.
F
Finally,
they
said:
okay,
if
you
submit
a
plan
to
the
to
the
court,
how
you
plan
to
do
jury
trials,
we
will
open
you
up,
so
we
did
and
they
approved
our
plan
and
then
because
things
were
supposedly
supposed
to
be
getting
better,
then
they
approved
our
plan
and
then
they
shut
us
down
again
when
they
there
was
a
surge
in
cases,
and
so
when
that
finally
slowed
down,
we
had
to
submit
another
plan.
They
wouldn't
accept
our
old
plan.
F
We
had
to
submit
another
plan
so
that
we
could
have
jury
trials
and
that's
so
the
court
has
been
operating.
F
People
are
coming
in
social
distancing
and
we've
been
able
to
have
have
our
you
know,
bench
trials
and
and
fleas
and
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
we
were
unable
to
start
jury
trials
until
I
think
it
was
sometime
in
september
august
or
september
this
year
before
we
were
finally
able
to
start
doing
jury
trials,
and
so
that's
where
the
court
is,
but
all
our
employees
have
come
in
every
single
day
wearing
masks
and
they
could
not
work
from
home,
so
they
ought
to
be
commended
for
their
hard
work.
F
They
have
been
in
every
day
and
no
complaints
and
worked
hard
and
have
done
their
jobs
and,
and
they
have
been
loyal
employees
of
this
city,
because
you
know
and
and
like
I
say
if
they
had
children
at
home.
Unfortunately
they
they
had
to
come
in
and
somebody
had
to
look
after
those
children.
So
they
aren't
regarding
how
somebody
did.
But
anyway,
the
court
is
up
and
running.
F
We
are
having
jury
trials
now
when
we
can,
and
but
we
are
still
having
to
socially
distance
with
our
jurors
and
and
things
so
which
it's
not
perfect,
but
it
is
gradually
we're
automatically
making
some
headway
and
being
able
to
get
rid
of
a
lot
of
our
cases.
But
the
court
has
not
stopped.
F
As
I
said,
they
have
come
in
every
day
and
they've
done
their
work
and
they've
notified
people.
They
sent
out
notices,
and
so
they
they've
kept
the
public
informed
and
and
and
we
you're
doing
our
best
to
dispose
of
through
bench
trials
and
any
other
thing
as
much
as
we
can,
and
so
that
is
that's
where
we
are
today
and
that's
the
status
of
the
court.
So
I
think,
judge,
ferguson
and,
of
course,
judge
herdina.
A
J
Okay,
so
councilmember
shade
members
of
the
committee.
Mr
mayor,
I'm
pleased
to
report.
I
did
a
jury
trial.
Today's
first
jury
trial,
I've
done
in
probably
over
a
year
the
defendant
was
found
guilty.
We
had
probably
30
jurors,
show
up
for
livability
jury
trials,
and
I'm
also
very
pleased
that
our
docket
is
now
after
today
we're
down
to
22
pending
livability
jury
trials
that
are
out
there
and
hopefully,
on
thursday,
we'll
eliminate
two
more
and
wednesday
morning.
J
I
have
a
number
of
cases
that
were
removed
from
the
jury,
trial,
docket
and
put
on
the
bench
trial.
So
we
dock
it
so
we'll
probably
be
down.
I
don't
think
we'll
be
in
single
digits,
we're
going
to
get
pretty
close
to
it.
That's
my
goal
and
do
that
through
pre-trials,
which
I've
done
by
zoom
and
also
we
have
a
dedicated
prosecutor
to
these
cases.
J
One
thing
I
would
like
to
say
about
livability
jury
trials,
unlike
the
other
jury
trials,
if
you
have
a
dui
or
a
police
court
type
trial,
and
you
get
a
rule,
5
request
for
discovery,
all
the
all
the
police
need
to
do
is
or
the
prosecutors
need
to
do
is
just
really
deal
with
one
agency
in
liveability
court.
If
we
have
a
fire
prevention
or
power
code,
violation,
short-term
rental
or
any
of
that,
you
deal
with
multiple
state
city
agencies.
J
So
it's
a
lot
more
complicated,
getting
the
information
together
to
get
it
to
the
defendants
and
the
defendant's
council,
but
having
a
dedicated
prosecutor
has
been
very
helpful
with
keeping
the
jury
trial
dot
number
down.
Now.
Let
me
just
give
you
some
quick
statistics
on
where
we
are
in
2020.
J
J
That
ordinance
has
worked
very
very
well
and
and
on
top
of
that
this
for
statistics
purposes
we
had
attributed
to
the
revenue
from
those
cases
last
year
was
a
hundred
thousand
four
hundred
and
thirty
dollars
and
the
year
prior,
that
was
sixty
four
thousand
dollars
directly
attributable
to
the
fines
paid
for
short-term
rental
violations
and
the
other
good
thing
about
that
is
they're
written
on
city
summonses.
J
So
the
money
that's
collected
through
the
livability
court,
short-term
rental,
all
the
livability
court
cases,
the
the
majority
of
it
stays
with
the
city-
is
not
sent
to
colombia,
which
is
what
we
have
to
do
when
you
have
a
uniform
traffic
ticket.
So
overall,
we've
been
really
busy.
Obviously
the
big
the
big
bubble
we
had
when
we
had
almost
800
somewhat
cases
last
year
involving
the
emergency
ordinance
mask
cases,
we
were
finished,
we
got
rid
of
them
and
I
would
thank
you
the
next
time
you
do
it.
J
Please
don't
say
the
fines
shall
be
a
hundred
dollars,
make
it
up
to
whatever
amount,
you
think
is
appropriate,
because
some
cases
needed
a
dollar.
Some
cases
needed
five
hundred
dollars
the
maximum
fine.
I
can
levy
and
dan
can
tell
you
that
body
cam
the
officers
were
right
in
these
cases
are
not
trained
police
officers.
J
They
they're
on
the
street
and
they're
stopping
many
times,
tourists
that
don't
know
the
ordinance
is
in
effect
they
get
a
lot
of
goff
on
the
street,
a
lot
of
political
back
and
forth
interchanging
with
the
the
people
when
they're
writing
the
tickets.
So
I
I
I
would
like
to
have.
J
It
would
be
easier
for
for
me
to
have
some
discretion
in
terms
of
the
fine
amount
that
we
we
assess
and
also
the
vast
majority
of
these
tickets
are
assessed
by
people
that
don't
show
up
in
court
want
to
make
it
where
they
can
pay
the
fine
I've
had
several
people
tell
me
well,
a
hundred
dollars
is
a
glorified
parking
ticket,
it's
more
than
that.
It's
it's
all
about
safety,
public
safety
and
enforcing
the
city's
emergency
ordinance.
J
So
with
that
I'll
answer,
any
questions
anybody
might
have.
The
numbers
were
up
significant
last
year,
but
again
we,
the
mass
cases,
are
gone
and
the
short-term
rental
cases,
I
wouldn't
say
they're
gone,
but
they
are
very,
very
the
minimum.
The
minimum
part
of
the
outstanding
docket
livability
court.
A
Judge
maloney
don't
want
to
throw
you
a
curveball,
but
what
is
the
average
length
of
time
from
when
a
ticket
is
written
to
disposal?
What
are
you
looking
at
on
moving
these
cases
along?
How
quickly
are
they
done.
J
It
it's
fairly
quick.
We
don't
have
now
obviously
we're
at
the
bottom
of
the
food
chain
and
like
this
week
when
we
did
jury,
the
jury
was
in
this
morning
we
had
four
or
five
lawyers
in
general
sessions.
Court
one
was
well,
he
wasn't
one
of
the
lawyers,
but
one
of
the
council
members
was
involved
and
we
had
to
continue
that
case.
J
But
if
you
push
shows
out
of
the
way,
if
you
take
dan's
people,
the
livability,
writing
the
tickets
and
bringing
them
to
me,
it's
pretty
quick,
I
would
say
within.
I
do
love
ability
court
as,
as
you
may
know,
every
other
monday,
and
it's
usually
done
within.
I
would
say
four
court
dates.
So
two
months.
A
H
Mr
chairman,
thank
you,
judge
maloney,
it's
really
great
to
hear
on
the
short-term
rental
side
of
things
that
it
seems
that
our
ordinance
and
the
enforcement
mechanisms
that
dan
has
put
in
place
have
worked.
I
mean
that
seems
like
it
really
has
gone
well.
My
question
is
on
the
cases
that
you're,
seeing
how
would
you
describe
without
actually
quantifying
it?
The
recidive
recidivism
rate
on
the
short-term,
rentals.
J
Very
low
of
recidivism
on
the
short-term
rental,
very,
very
low,
the
smart
thing
that
the
the
city
did
in
addition
to
the
ordinance
being
well
well
drafted.
Is
you
hired
an
expert
witness
he
put
together
a
package
of
material?
So
if,
if
the
case
is
brought
to
me,
there's
a
nice
package,
bait
stamped
and
all
the
prosecutors
hand
it
to
the
defense
counsel
or
the
defendant,
and
it
has
all
of
the
information
in
there
the
advertising
and
that's
where
most
of
the
enforcement
is
taking
place.
Unlawful
advertising,
that's
kind
of
low-hanging
fruit.
J
H
A
D
No,
it's.
It's
worked
very
well.
We
initially
started
out
with
three
full-time
code
enforcement
specifically
assigned
to
those
cases
we
are
now
down
to
two
being
able
to
handle
it,
and
the
real
proof
in
the
pudding
will
be
when
I'm
down
to
one
officer,
but
I
really
see
that
within
the
next
year
or
so.
A
H
J
J
H
A
I
want
to
be
able
to
update
the
full
council
on
that
judge
maloney
as
well.
So
if
you
give
it
to
me
as
well,
it'd
be
helpful.
J
All
right
I'll
do
that
it's
a
little
difficult
to
read
on
this
sheet,
but
we'll
get
I'll
get
it
off
to
you.
Can.
J
Councilmember,
mr
chairman,
yes,
sir,
not
noise
don't
forget,
and
this
is
what
I've.
Obviously
I've
heard
a
significant
number
of
noise.
J
The
livability
court
and
most
of
the
cases
are
brought
to
me:
don't
forget
the
behavior
element
of
it,
and
by
that
I
mean
the
motorcycles.
It's
one
thing
for
a
motorcycle,
it's
another
for
the
motorcycle
to
sit
in
the
market
area.
J
Reviewing
ordinance
does
work
pretty
well
when
it
comes
to
vehicular
or
motorcycle
noise.
I
mean
we're
never
going
to
eliminate
it
completely,
but
it's
a
lot
of
this
is
just
behavior
that
I
see
I
dan
I'm
sorry.
A
J
No,
no,
no,
I'm
not
looking
for
compliments.
I
just
want
to
try
to
make
sure
that
if
we
do
make
any
changes
to
it
and
we
take
that
into
account,
you've
seen
how
many
toys
and
and
your
people
do
a
great
job
prosecuting
those
noise
cases
and
even
the
motorcycle
cases
I
mean
they'll
come
in
and
I
saw
people
on
the
street
but
their
hands
over
their
ears
and
children
were,
you
know,
upset
giving
me
that
type
of
evidence
makes
the
case
much
easier
to
deal
with.
A
All
right:
well,
it
sounds
like
clear-cut,
some
things
we
don't
want
to
mess
with,
but
other
things
we
may
want
to
be
thinking
about
down
the
line
with
the
noise
audience.
But
thanks
for
that
comment,
judge
maloney
sure
all
right,
judge
ferguson.
You
got
some
good
news
for
us
on
dui's
right.
I
I
think
so
good
afternoon,
councilman,
chairman
of
mr
mayor,
I
I've
been
pretty
proud
of
what
we've
been
doing.
The
dui
court,
if
you
remember
judge
morrison,
was
correct
that
we
started
doing
trials
in
person.
It
was
september
we
tried
in
july,
but
the
number
of
jurors
who
who
came
in
for
jury
duty
did
not
meet
the
threshold
to
to
have
a
trial.
So
we
had
to
wait
until
september
and
the
dui
court
was
the
first
court
to
to
have
a
full
trial.
I
I've
got
some
limited
numbers
here:
our
clerk
reports
that
in
2020
we
disposed
of
300
cases
in
the
dui
court
and
in
2021
we
dispose
of
279.
I
And
we
currently
have
107
dui
jury
trials,
pending
with
the
oldest
being
an
arrest
that
happened
that
occurred
in
october
of
2020,
so
our
oldest,
our
oldest
dui
case,
is
now
october
of
2020,
which
I
think
is
pretty
good.
I
I
don't
have
in
front
of
me
and
I
can.
I
can
get
the
numbers
on
how
many
pending
trials
we
had
prior
to
the
dui
court's
implementation.
I
I
think
ms
cofield,
that
provided
the
council
or
the
committee
that
when
she
first
reported
on
these
numbers,.
A
Let
me
just
go
back
over
your
numbers
in
2020,
we
you
dispose
of
300
in
2021,
you
dispose
of
279.
and
20.
The
oldest
case
you
got,
painting
is
october
of
2020,
and
the
number
that's
pending
is
how
much
107.
K
And
and
judge
ferguson,
if
I
can
add
to
that
in
2019,
there
were
151
dui
jury
trial
pending
so
you're
you're
chipping
away
at
that
no
question
about
it.
A
Which
means
that
you
you're
getting
rid
of
a
of
an
old
docket
while
cases
are
being
written
every
presume
every
day
every
week,
so
the
numbers
keep
on
going
up
by
new
cases,
but
you've
got
the
the
151
down
you're
doing
better
than
steady
being
steady.
This
is
that's.
That's
a
good
progress.
I
think
you're
making.
I
Right
and-
and
you
know,
I
guess
in
the
words
of
tony
romo-
take
what
they
give
you
you
know.
So
what
I
mean
by
that
is
the
court.
The
supreme
court
has
given
us
an
opportunity
to
plead
by
affidavit
so
we'll
take
that
opportunity.
Given
us,
the
opportunity
to
you
know
have
defendants
who
are
unable
to
physically
appear
in
court
appear
by
electronic
needs,
remote
technology,
we'll
take
that
and
we'll
use
what
we're
what
we've
been
given
to
to
to
move
those
numbers
and
progress,
the
dui
court.
I
So
I
think
we've
we've
taken
what
we've
been
given
and
you
know
accomplished
a
pretty
significant
goal
here,
just
to
update
the
committee.
I
What
I
think
is
effective
is
I
have
started
creating
a
dui
jury
priority
list
that
has
the
cases
by
date
listed
out
and
I'll,
send
that
over
to
all
attorneys
and
pro
se
litigants
who
have
a
case
that
could
be
called
for
trial.
That
month
in
the
dui
court
we
have
one
month
of
pre-trial
hearings
and
one
month
of
jury
trials.
So
out
of
the
12
months,
six
of
them
are
specifically
used
to
bring
a
jury
in
and
conduct
a
trial.
I
I
From
that
point,
we
identify
which
cases
are
the
oldest,
which
officers
are
available
to
testify
which
defendants
are
available
to
have
their
day
in
court,
and
then
we
create
the
priority
list
and
based
on
that
list,
we
just
go
straight
down.
I
If
your
number
is
called,
then
you're
expected
to
be
in
court
to
have
that
case
tried
or
or
resolved,
and
if
it's
done
so
we'll
move
to
the
next
list.
What
I
have
been
speaking
with
the
other
judges
and
the
court
staff.
My
concern
is
the
number
of
jurors
who
are
responding
to
our
juror
summons.
I
Like
I
said,
we
tried
to
have
jury
trials
back
in
july,
but
we
didn't
get
enough
jurors
up
here
to
meet
the
threshold
to
actually
pick
a
jury
we
send
out.
I
believe
I
could
be
mistaken.
I
believe
we
sent
100
notices
and
seven
jurors
responded
back
in
july.
I
Now
we
are
sending
out,
I
believe
it's
around
200
notices
and
we're
getting
the
threshold
number,
but
usually
around
and
correct
me
from
wrong,
but
somewhere
around
30
to
35
jurors,
responding
to
our
juror
summits.
A
lot
of
those
are
people
who
are
statutorily
exempt.
So
it's
not
like
all
the
other
people
are
just
outright
ignoring
our
juror
summons,
but
a
significant
number
I
believe,
are-
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
especially
if
we
want
to
continue
picking
jurors
and
having
jury
trials.
I
I
We
usually
just
allow
them
to
be
released
and
go
home
because
we
had
so
few
jurors
arrived.
I
had
to
ask
those
jurors
who
just
served
on
that
jury
to
re-enter
the
pool
and
potentially
get
picked
again
for
a
second
trial
that
same
week,
although
it
is
statutorily
accepted.
I
I
feel
that,
and
I
think
the
jurors
have
responded
that
they
felt
like
they
were
being.
You
know,
stretched
a
little
too
thin
by
requiring
them
to
sit
for
multiple
trials
in
one
week,
so
that
could
be
eliminated
if
we
get
a
large
enough
pool
in
order
to
allow
those
six
jars
to
be
released
after
they
sit
on
one
jury
trial.
I
A
Would
be
your
proposal
to
look
at
these
folks
who
are
not
statutorily
exempt
and
then
just
simply
and
plainly
just
ignoring
the
summons.
I
First,
on
the
immediate
side,
I
think
having
some
official
from
the
city-
maybe
not
a
police
officer
or
sworn
officer,
but
some
official
going
and
knocking
on
the
door
of
a
person
who
does
not
appear
for
true
duty
and
just
leaving
some
kind
of
notice
that
they
they
should
have
been
or
are
required
to
be
present
at
the
courtroom,
because
the
jury
summons
is
a
is
a
legal
order
on
the
long
looking
at
the
long
game,
it
would
not
be
a
bad
idea
to
consider
moving
to
electronic
juror
responses,
similar
to
how
it's
done
in
the
the
federal
court,
or
maybe
even
the
the
state
circuit
courts
to
where
jurors
can
respond,
that
they
receive
the
notice
and
add
their
information.
I
So
we'll
know
who
is
showing
who
is
going
to
show
up
prior
to
the
day
of
jury
selection?
The
way
it's
done
now
we
send
a
mail
paper
copy
and
you
don't
need
to
respond
until
day
of
the
that
you
need
to
show
up.
So,
on
the
short
end,
sending
someone
someone
over
to
knock
on
the
door
may
help
on
a
longer
end.
You
know
trying
to
find
a
way
to
get
this
process
in
line
with
with
with
using
the
internet
would
would
also
be
good.
I
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
judge.
I
agree
with
you.
I
think
if
we've
got
the
resources-
and
I
don't
want
to
give
anyone
a
heart
attack
if
we're
really
telling
resources
but
some
follow-up
on
juror
summonses
to
those
who
don't
appear
to,
let
them
know
we're
actually
paying
attention,
I
think
actually
will
will
work
and
and
pay
some
dividends.
H
A
As
a
civic
duty
and
usually
what
you
just
said,
judge
ferguson,
it's
just
a
one
day
trial
and
they
come
in
on
whatever
day.
It
is
that
you
hold
court
they're
done
by
the
by
the
end
of
the
day,
and
these
are
not
complicated
cases
and
y'all
usually
keep
them
and
get
it
resolved
in
short
order.
So.
I
That
is
correct
because
you
know,
but
nonetheless,
in
the
final
analysis,
I
I
do
think
the
dui
court
is
working.
I
think
we're
very
efficient.
You
know
having
a
a
an
october
2020
oldest
case,
even
in
light
of
what's
been
going
on
with
with
the
coronavirus,
speaks
volumes
to
this
court
and
its
staff.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions.
I
think
that
the.
A
Circuit
court
would
be
doing
flips
until
this
case
they
had
was
october
of
2020..
I
just
I
just
I'm
going
to
resolve
the
case
in
general
sessions
this
week,
just
2018.,
so
I
I
know
that's
dude
being
in
october.
2020
is
a
pretty
good
feathering
your
cat.
Thank
you
for
moving
us
along
judge.
Morrison
did
any
recap
you
want
to
give
us
or
or
susan,
miss
hodena.
K
If,
if
we've
got
a
few
more
minutes,
I
want
to
real
briefly
talk
about.
I
guess
what
I
call
the
the
potpourri
court:
it's
not
one
of
these.
It's
not
livability!
It's
it's!
It's
not
dui,
but
it's
the
court
that
judge
morrison,
chief
judge,
morrison,
judge,
byrd
and
I
are
usually
involved
in-
and
that
is
really
the
the
traffic
cases
and
everything
from
assault
and
battery
to
criminal
domestic
violence,
public
drunkenness
in
and
that
court
has
been
working
too.
K
Although
our
story
on
the
jury
trials
is
not,
as
is
as
good
as
judge
ferguson's
or
judge
maloney
I'll
get
to
that
in
a
second.
But
this
traffic
in
criminal
court
disposed
of
2282
cases
in
2020
and
2286
cases
in
2021
in
2019,
when,
when
the
court
was
last
year,
reporting
to
you
all,
there
were
191
jury
trial
cases
pending
2020.
That
number
was
148
2021.
K
That
number
was
128
and
and
now
in
2022,
our
pending
trials.
These
are
non-dui
non
livability
are
264
cases,
so
we
we
have
hit
the
post
coming
out
of
covet
bubble.
Where
you
know
everybody
is
asking
for
jury
trials
and
we
now
have
264
jury
trial
cases
pending
the
majority
of
those
cases.
I'm
happy
to
say,
are
20
20
cases,
2021
cases,
but
still
you
know,
I
don't
think
any
any
of
us
is
happy
about
that
statistic,
but
we
have
been
doing
a
couple
things
that
I
wanted
to
tell
the
court
about.
K
First
of
all,
and
and
and
julia
can
jump
on
this,
we,
the
prosecutors
office,
recently
hired
a
very
well-respected
former
solicitor,
todd
williams,
who
has
come
into
court
and
he's
a
expert
in
dui
cases,
but
he's
also
got
a
lot
of
experience
in
criminal
cases
and
he's
been
in
our
court
for
maybe
two
months
now.
E
K
Second
thing
is:
we
have
hired
a
part-time
public
defender
who's,
going
to
assist
jason
michael
in
having
a
second
public
defender,
I
think,
is
going
to
help
move
those
cases
where
our
defendants
qualify
for
a
public
defender
along
so
we'll
have
some
extra
resources
there,
and
we
have
been
also
working
with
the
police
department
to
make
the
day-to-day
cases
move
more
smoothly
and
also
it
being
a
less
inconvenient
process
for
the
defendants
and
and
by
that,
what
we've
done
is:
we've
worked
with
the
police
department
and
we've
moved
sometimes
around
when
officers
write
their
tickets.
K
For
so,
for
example,
we
noticed,
judge,
morrison
and
judge
vernon.
I
noticed
that
one
particular
day
of
the
week
was
extremely
heavy
and
we
would
have
people
waiting
for
hours
in
court
before
their
case
was
heard.
So
we
reached
out
to
the
police
department
into
steve
and
kelly
freshman,
and
we
asked
if
we
could
have
the
officers
start
writing
their
tickets
for
different
court
days.
We've
just
implemented
that
system
and
I
think
it's
been
very-
very
productive.
K
We've
been
able
to
move
through
cases
faster,
we've
been
able
to
get
defendants
out
of
court,
which
makes
them
a
little
happier.
Needless
to
say,
we
had
an
interesting
experience
today
again
trying
to
keep
cases
moving.
We
had
two
tracks
of
jury
trials
going
on
and
we
had
one
track
of
non-jury
cases
going
on
and
with
only
two
courtrooms.
K
That
was
a
challenge,
and
so
what
we've
been
doing
is
shifting
judges
and
defendants
and
lawyers
around
all
morning
and
afternoon,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
think
a
number
of
cases
were
disposed
of
both
non-jury
and
jury,
and
so
we're
continuing
to
look
at
different
ways
of
how
to
make
the
court
more
effective,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
when
we
sit
down
and
all
the
judges
get
together
after
the
months
that
we've
been
spending
together
talking
about
this
and
we
put
together
our
2023
calendar,
I
think
we're
going
to
have
some
some
good
changes
in
there.
K
I
will
add
before
I
forget.
We
did
add
three
livability
court
dates
in
the
afternoon,
which
was
a
request
that
was
made
by
the
police
officers
because
they
found
it
hard
to
write
a
ticket.
You
know
be
be
on
the
street
until
12
or
1
o'clock
and
then
show
up
for
8
30
court,
so
we've
instituted
this
year
for
the
first
time
three
afternoon,
livability
court
days
at
3
p.m,
for
officers
to
come
in
and
and
prosecute
their
cases.
So
that's
that's,
I
think,
been
a
been
a
big
help.
K
So
just
to
let
you
know,
while
you
know
nobody,
I
think
is
pleased
with
a
number
of
those
pending
cases.
It
really
is
a
coming
out
of
covet
and
the
impact
we're
seeing
for
that
again.
Today
we
were
double
tracking
these
trials
and
we
had
at
least
probably
35
jurors,
who
responded
to
the
liveability
court,
summonses
and
35
who
responded
to
the
criminal
court
regular
criminal
court
summonses.
K
So
we
had
set
potentially
70
jurors
walking
around
in
our
courtroom
outside
our
courtroom
today,
which
was
a
lot
of
activity,
but
very,
very
positive
and
quite
a
step
forward
from
the
days
when
judge
ferguson
talked
about
where
we
got
seven
seven
jurors
to
show
up.
So
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
any
questions
on
that,
but
I
would
like
to
just
move
on
real
quickly
to
the
next
issue,
which
relates
to
the
question
about
the
jurors,
and
that
is
we-
and
this
is
very
exciting
news.
K
We
are
getting
a
new
case
management
system
in
the
municipal
court.
We're
supposed
to
go
live
at
the
end
of
february,
and
I
wanted
to
spend
a
minute
talking
to
you
about
that
new
agreement.
So
just
to
give
you
a
little
background,
we're
currently
under
a
system
called
gems
which
the
court
has
used
for.
I
don't
know
100
years,
it
seems
like
at
least,
and
it
is
actually
expiring
in
may,
and
so
we
were.
K
K
That
would
step
in
for
the
gem
system
when
it
expired,
and
we
we
put
out
a
a
a
bid,
a
procurement
document
and
and
received
responses
that
estimated
we,
the
city,
is
going
to
have
to
spend
around
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
new
case
management
system
that
seemed
a
low
budgeted.
K
Thank
you
to
amy
and
others.
It's
just
seemed
somewhat
outrageous,
so
we
resumed
a
conversation
that
had
been
dropped
a
number
of
years
ago
to
somehow
get
involved
in
the
statewide
case
management
system,
which
is
a
system
that
is
run
by
our
supreme
our
court
judicial
branch,
and
it
is
the
system
that
the
supreme
court
is
on
the
court
of
appeals,
the
charleston
county
and
a
number
of
probably
about
50
other
municipalities
and
in
in
the
state,
long
story
short.
We've
investigated
it,
we've
done
our
due
diligence.
K
K
The
end
of
february
and
the
annual
fee
for
that
is
3
500
and
there
will
be
a
startup
cost
that
will
be
probably
a
conversion
cost
under
fifty
thousand
dollars,
but
it
there
are
many
many
benefits,
one
of
which
is
a
jury
management
system
that
I
think,
is
going
to
help
us
deal
with
the
issue
that
you've
all
just
talked
about.
K
I
don't
know
all
the
ins
and
outs
of
the
system
yet,
but
there
is
going
to
be
enhanced
ways
to
correspond
with
jurors
and
follow-up
and-
and
I
think
I'm
I'm
looking
forward
to
coming
back
in
six
months
and
reporting
how
the
new
case
management
system
is
working.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
update.
It's
pretty
exciting
we're
supposed
to
go,
live
on
february
22nd,
so
fingers
are
crossed.
K
A
lot
of
work
has
to
be
done
by
our
staff,
as
well
as
as
well
as
the
state
and
I.t
when
I'm
speaking
about
staff.
Also,
I
just
want
to
mention
joanne
hayes
is
on
the
line.
She's
helped
put
together
all
these
numbers
for
the
judges
and
for
me,
and
we've
got
a
number
of
other.
I
think
staff
members
who
are
listening
in
this
afternoon
wanted
to
hear
the
report
and
also
any
comments
that
you've
had.
The
only
other
thing
I
want
to
mention
is
something
that's
near
and
dear
to
your
heart
judge.
K
I
mean
peter
shake
council
member
shane
excuse
me,
and
that
is
the
plaque
for
judge
fields
and
we
we
are
working
on
some
language,
I'm
happy
to
accept
any
suggestions
that
anybody
has
for
the
appropriate
language
for
the
other
councils.
Who
may
not
remember
this
council
members
who
may
not
remember
this,
you
all
approved
putting
a
plaque
in
the
courthouse
to
honor
the
work
of
judge
fields.
K
D
A
A
A
so
yeah,
so
we
we
want
to
work
on
this
as
soon
as
possible
and
judge
rodina.
I
will
circle
back
with
you
with
some
proposed
language,
and
I
would
ask
you
to
circulate
that
among
our
judges
to
get
their
input
on
this
as
well,
but
he
was
such
an
integral
part
in
the
early
days.
He
he
cut
his
teeth
as
a
judge
in
municipal
court
and
he
went
on
become
a
family
court
judge
and
circuit
court
judge,
but
he
started
off
in
in
municipal
court,
so
we
do
want
to
honor
him.
A
We
said
we
were
we'll
follow
up
on
that
judge,
medina
or
judge
morrison
would
y'all
make
sure
that
we
get
a
confrontation
of
all
these
numbers
that
I
was
trying
to
keep
up
with
this
report
on
what
you
just
reported,
judge,
bologna
and
judge
ferguson
had
given
us
number
ones.
If
somebody
can
consolidate
that.
A
For
us,
our
city
council
meeting
is
wednesday,
if
I
could
have
that
beforehand,
so
that
I
can
just
go
through
those
different
stages
with
you
and
then
I
think
what
you
just
said,
judge
bernina,
let's
touch
base
very
briefly
and
shortly
in
about
six
or
seven
months,
to
see
how
this
new
system
was
working,
because
I
am
concerned
about
what
judge
ferguson
said
about
the
number
of
jurors
not
showing
up,
and
if
this
new
system
was
working
to
address
that,
then
that's
great.
A
We
don't
need
to
do
anything
else,
but
let's
put
that
on
your
calendar
about
about
maybe
august
september
of
this
year
to
just
give
an
updated
progress
report
on
that
new
system.
That.
K
Sounds
fun,
mr
chairman,
if
I
can
raise
one
more
issue,
I'd
be
remiss,
but
if
I
didn't-
and
that
is
a
budget
issue
to
have
you
all
start
thinking
about
for
next
year-
and
that
is
this-
the
city
of
charleston
currently
play
pays
its
jurors
five
dollars
a
day.
Okay,
I.
A
Wish
I
could
say
that
publicly
judge
ford,
that's
that's
embarrassing.
It
is.
A
K
So
so
we
would
be
asking
next
year.
You
know,
when
you're,
considering
the
2023
budget
to
to
bump
that
up
to
10
a
day
for
jurors
and
and
we'll
give
you
some
figures
of
what
that
may
cost.
But
I
think,
among
other
things,
that
we've
talked
about
as
far
as
attracting
jurors.
I
do
think
it
would
make
a
difference
if
we
ended
up
paying
jurors
more
than
five
dollars
a
day.
A
H
A
Know
I
mean
we're
going
to
move
these
cases
along
and
just
y'all
are
doing
a
terrific
job.
Doing
what
judge
morrison
said
at
the
very
beginning
of
this.
Our
staff
is
dedicated.
They
came
in
kova,
not
kova.
They
showed
up
for
work.
A
This
is
not
a
position
that
you
could
do
remotely.
I
know
that
some
cases
can
be
disposed.
I've
seen
it
in
circuit
court.
They
were
moving
cases
remotely.
You
can
do
some
part
of
that,
but
not
our
staff.
They
they've
got
to
show
up
and
handle
these
things,
and
we.
A
Thing
the
way
to
move
a
case
is
to
set
it
on
a
a
trial
docket
and
tell
that
defendant.
Okay,
you're
up
for
trial
on
february
the
7th-
and
it's
amazing
what
happens
when
you
do
that
and
they
see
35
40
people
show
up
for
jury
service
and
they
look
over
there.
They'll
go
okay,
I'm
ready
to
dispose
of
my
case
now.
Right
I
mean
that's,
that's
how
it
works,
and
so
the
threat
of
a
jury
trial
is
the
most
powerful
tool
to
help
cases
get
getting
moving
on
so
judge
rodina.
A
I
would
be
a
little
more
aggressive
with
the
pay
increase,
not
you're
not
supposed
to
make
a
profit
by
being
a
juror,
but
at
least
let's
just
cover
some
of
the
other
pocket
expenses
they're
showing
up
for
that.
So
at
least
25
I
would
would
urge
you
to
be
looking
at
and
maybe
even
as
much
as
50
look
at
what's
being
paid
on
the
circuit
level
as
as
well
it's
what
they
get
paid
per
day
and
jury
services
jury
service.
K
A
Thank
you
all
right,
so
please
just
get
those
numbers
to
us,
somebody
if
y'all
would
someone
would
coordinate,
and
I
get
that
before
wednesday.
That
would
be
a
big
help,
so
I
can
make
a
full
report
to
the
council.
Anybody
else
on
the
committee
have
questions
for
any
of
our
judges.
Thank
you
all.
So
much
I'll
do
a
yeoman's
work.
It
does
not
go
unnoticed.
A
We
appreciate
it.
We
know
exactly
how
dedicated
y'all
all
are,
and
our
staff
and
our
those
who
work
in
the
system,
our
public
defenders
and
our
prosecutors,
everybody
who
is
part
of
this
courthouse
family.
Thank
you
all
very,
very
much,
and
we
appreciate
the
dedication
that
y'all
have
in
tackling
the
backlog
of
cases.
It's
moving,
it's
moving
in
the
right
direction
and
I
think
that's
the
message
we're
getting
from
y'all
on
that.
So
thank
you
for
your
service.
Thank
you.
A
Very
good,
so
steve
rumlin
before
we
sign
off,
is
our
guests
around
or.
A
He
was,
god,
are
you
there.
B
L
Sir,
I'm
here
I'm
major
technical
difficulties,
but
I
think
I'll
keep
my
camera
off
and
be
able
to
to
get
through
this
part,
but
I
appreciate
you
guys
patience
with
with
my
issues
on
my
end
but
yeah.
I
appreciate
inviting
me
to
be
able
to
come
and
speak
on
this
topic
of
human
trafficking
in
the
area
and
what
homeland
security
investigations
is
doing.
Just
for
those
that
don't
know,
I
am
the
assistant
special
agent
in
charge
for
homeland
security
investigations.
L
L
All
right,
it
doesn't
like
that.
That's
that's
gonna
work
for
me,
so
we'll
we'll
just
carry
on
for
those
that
don't
know.
Homeland
security
investigations
is
the
primary
investigative
arm.
The
department
of
homeland
security,
we're
tasked
with
pursuing
transnational
crime
and
organizations
that
impact
the
u.s
trade
travel
and
finance
system.
So
the
best
way
simplest
way
to
phrase.
It
is
any
person
thing,
finance
stream,
or
even
cyber
stream
at
times
could
fall
within
our
investigative
purview.
So
it's
a
very
wide
investigative
remit.
L
We
investigate
a
vast
amount
of
of
activity
and
then
here
in
charleston,
one
of
our
big
priorities,
we
put
a
lot
of
effort
into
are
crimes
of
victimization
and
exploitation,
and
that
is
probably
one
of
our
number
one
priorities
here
and
within
that
priority
falls:
child
exploitation
and
sex
trafficking,
forced
labor
investigations
and
violations.
L
Our
other
priorities
in
the
area,
just
to
give
you
an
overview.
Our
global
trade
investigations
and
due
to
the
seaport
here
in
charleston,
plays
a
major
role
in
what
we
do:
we're
looking
at
intellectual
property
rights
violations,
trade
fraud,
protective
equipment
frauds
that
are
coming
in
through
through
china
and
counterproliferation
investigations.
L
L
Community
service
providers,
the
public
sector,
so
your
or
your
private
sector,
so
hospitality,
your
hotels,
motels
industries
like
that
restaurant
industries,
your
transportation
sector.
All
of
these.
We
consider
extremely
viable
partners
in
this
effort,
because
each
human
trafficking
case
has
its
own
unique
set
of
circumstances.
L
We
have
to
look
at
both
the
victims
and
the
offenders
differently,
so
it's
not
always
about
using
the
federal
authority
could
be
about
using
state
authority
and
that's
why
those
partnerships
with
state
local
law
enforcement
are
so
important
and
one
of
those
key
partners.
Obviously
one
reason
why
I'm
speaking
here
is
the
city
of
charleston
police
department.
L
Our
mission
for
hsi
human
trafficking
investigations
is
twofold:
we
proactively
identify
and
disrupt
and
dismantle
human
trafficking
organizations,
but
we
also
employ
a
victim-centered
approach.
That's
whereby
equal
value
is
placed
on
the
identification
and
stabilization
of
victims,
so
we're
not
just
looking
at
going
and
finding
the
offender
and
putting
the
offender
in
jail
and
moving
along.
It's
about
also
caring
for
the
victim
we've
taken
just
a
whole
new
look
at
how
we
attack
these
investigations,
because
we
don't
have
the
witness
in
the
victim
to
be
able
to
hold
with
a
really
strong
prosecution.
L
Then
it
doesn't
allow
us
to
to
push
that
prosecution
to
where
sentencing
is
going
to
keep
those
offenders
off
the
street.
So
we've
really
prioritized
our
victim-centered
approach
and
to
the
point
here
in
charleston,
we've
we've
turned
one
of
our
interview
rooms,
a
typical
traditional
law
enforcement
interview,
room
into
a
victim-centered
soft
room
was
what
we
call
a
soft
interview
room.
L
So
it's
got
plush
couches
and
art
and
toys
for
children
if
they
happen
to
be
the
victim
and
it's
a
much
softer
approach
and
we
use
non-law
enforcement
interviewers
to
conduct
the
forensic
interviews
all
about
prioritizing
that
the
the
victims,
well-being,
timeliness
and
identifying
themselves
as
victims,
potentially
or
just
when
they're
ready
to
be
to
begin
that
process
of
healing,
and
we
will
then
utilize
that
information
from
forensic
interviewers
for
the
prosecution.
L
L
We
are
talking
to
the
trucking
industry,
truckers
that
are
on
the
streets
every
day.
That's
thousands
and
thousands
of
eyes
and
ears
they're
out
there
in
the
truck
stops
at
the
gas
stations
and
places
where,
instead
of
seeing
something
that
they
aren't
quite
sure
about,
we
give
them
just
sort
of
a
little
bit
to
say.
Okay,
maybe
I
need
to
report
this
and
call
this
in
to
the
hotline,
so
we're
out
doing
a
lot
of
that
training.
L
Charleston
county
was
the
number
two
ranked
reported
human
trafficking
indicators
so
through
the
hotline
not
necessarily
saying
that
there's
human
trafficking
occurring,
but
that's
the
reports
that
are
coming
into
the
hotline
this
year,
that
charleston
county
has
dropped
down
to
number
four.
L
We
can't
read
too
much
into
those
numbers
because
we
don't
know
necessarily
if
it's
charleston
has
come
into
the
number
four
spot
because
of
us
attacking
the
the
offenders
and
going
after
these
offenders
we've
identified
in
the
area
or
if
it's
just
less
reporting,
but
we
are
doing
much
more
awareness
out
there,
much
more
training
and
preventative
efforts,
so
by
any
indication
that
should
increase
the
amount
of
reported
offenses,
but
it
actually
went
down
so
we're
heavily
looking
at
how
how
those
numbers
are
going
to
play
out
for
hsi
here
in
the
charleston
metropolitan
area,
our
stats
for
human
trafficking.
L
Here
locally
last
year,
we
had
162
criminal
arrests
of
those
14
were
human
trafficking
related
with
14
rescues
of
child
victims
or
victims.
I'm
sorry,
not
just
child
victims.
There
were
some
children
in
there.
So
that's
substantial,
because
even
just
one
is
a
problem
and
that's
how
we
we
really
do
look
at
these
investigations
is
it's
a
life,
and
so
we
treat
it
as
as
such
and
we
will
take
everything
we
have
and
throw
it
at
it.
L
We'll
leverage
all
of
our
partners,
capabilities
and
authorities,
the
federal
authorities
as
well
to
pursue
to
pursue
these
criminals,
but
it's
all
about
that
rescue
in
the
end,
so
we'll
take
a
rescue
and
pass
on
a
a
conviction
if
we
have
to
that
is
sort
of
kind
of
the
basis
of
what
we're
kind
of
our
efforts
are
out
there.
We
ran
an
operation
last
summer
called
the
operation
lighthouse
and
that
was
heavily
reliant
on
the
city
police,
their
maritime
units.
L
L
We
had
really
good
outreach
efforts
and
training
with
us
with
other
state
and
local
law
enforcements,
but
we
we
utilized
a
lot
of
maritime
units
in
the
area,
but
the
city
really
came
through
and
and
provided
us
with
some
resources
in
that
in
that
arena
it
gave
us
a
good
kind
of
trial
effort
in
the
in
the
better
weather
time,
and
so
we
had
some
really
good
results.
L
Out
of
that,
we
had
seven
arrests
in
the
area
from
myrtle
beach,
all
the
way
down
to
beaufort
county,
and
we
had
two
human
rescues
of
sex
trafficking
victims.
So
just
during
that
operation
that
was
very
productive.
We
are
looking
to
continue
doing
those
operations
throughout
the
year,
so
there
will
be
land-based
also
maritime
based
efforts
for
us
to
get
out
there
and
and
partner
with
all
of
the
local
law
enforcement
in
the
area
and
all
the
resources
that
we
have
to
just
do
a
really
targeted
effort
throughout
the
year.
L
So
we
want
to
keep
these
offenders
on
their
toes
back
them
into
a
corner
so
that
we
can
really
push
them
out
of
the
area
and
and
help
protect
the
the
vulnerable
citizens
that
they're.
Targeting
with
that,
I
think
that's
essentially
the
the
gist
I
was.
It
was
all
supposed
to
be
visual,
so
you
could
see
this
stuff,
but
with
my
technical
issues,
I
apologize,
but
I
will
say
the
important
kind
of
piece
to
this
is.
L
If
someone
sees
something
and
they
report
it,
hsi
will
respond
and
we'll
respond
with
all
of
the
the
capabilities
and
resources
that
we
have
and
just
to
plug
sort
of
the
tip
line
phone
number
for
those
with
a
pin
that
want
to
write
it
down.
It's
one,
eight,
six,
six,
three,
four,
seven,
two,
four,
two:
three!
That's
one,
eight,
six,
six,
three,
four,
seven,
two,
four,
two:
three!
That's
the
hsi
tip
line.
L
A
You
especially
again
crowd.
We
appreciate
you,
your
persistence
number
one
and
the
report
that
you
just
ran
over
with
us.
I
see
chief
thompson's
back
on
line,
see
if
anything
you
want
to
add
on.
Let's
see
what
he
was
mentioning
with
the
coordination
with
the
police
department.
G
Yes,
sorry
and
we
appreciate
that
hsi
we
we've
got
a
task
detective
now
on
their
task
force
and
it's
just
opened
up
so
many
doors
for
us
being
embedded
with
them.
You
know,
as
as
everyone
probably
knows,
or
are
well
known
now
I
mean
these.
These
investigations
span
all
over
the
place,
so
being
a
part
of
this
federal
task.
Force
has
really
opened
up
some
opportunities
for
us
for
resources
and
and
everything
that
goes
along
with
that.
G
We'll
tell
you
that
back
in
2019,
the
mayor
had
this
vision
of
us
improving
our
response
to
human
trafficking
and
scott,
and
his
group
have
taken
it
to
the
next
level
we
went
out
mayor,
send
us
out
to
houston,
see
what
they
were
doing
out.
There
brought
some
some
best
practices
back
here
we
immediately
started
in
with
there
was
a.
It
was
also
called
a
task
force
for
the
tri-county
human
trafficking
task
force.
G
We
came
involved
with
sharing
information
and
it's
just
grown
from
there
I'll
tell
you
a
lot
of
it
started
with
our
own
women's
commission.
So
thank
you
to
former
councilman
jackson
for
that,
so
we
appreciate
it
scott.
Thank
you.
A
A
I
will
just
say
that
the
human
trafficking
is
one
of
those
silent
issues
in
our
community.
It's
just
something
we
would
not
have
not
historically
paid
enough
attention
to
I'm
glad
to
see
that
the
task
force
is
operating
very
efficiently
and
that
our
police
department's
fully
engaged
as
partners
with
the
federal
agency
dealing
with
us.
A
It's
a
huge
problem
and
we
need
to
be
paying
a
level
of
attention
that
we
haven't
paid
to
it.
So
thank
you,
chief
thompson
for
the
police
department's
cooperation
coordination
with
with
homeland
security.
On
that
any
updates
we
need
to
receive
from
that.
It
would
be
appreciated,
as
time
goes
on
as
I'll
see
fit,
and
I
know
how
these
task
force
work
chief
thompson.
You
said
it
the
the
collateral
benefits
with
our
local
agencies
being
involved.
That
opens
a
lot
of
doors
for
us
that
are
sometimes
immeasurable.
A
So
I'm
glad
to
see
the
partnership
is
working
well
along
those
lines,
all
right.
We
are
running
over
time
because
we've
got
another
committee
meeting
for
the
city
at
3,
30,
which
I
know
the
mayor,
and
I
are
both
members
of
any
further
business.
We
need
to
take
out
on
this
committee
councilmember
mitchell,
councilmember
sheila,
our
mayor
cnn,
will
we
will
hereby
adjourn.
Thank
you
all
for
hanging
in
there
a
wonderful
report
very
good
meeting
this
afternoon
and
I'll
see
you
guys
in
a
few
moments.