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City of Charleston Committee on Public Safety 12/20/21
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Of
course,
if
I'm
using
my
phone,
I
get
people
call
in
so
that's
another
problem,
but
that's
okay,
all
right!
We'll
call
to
order
the
public
safety
committee
meeting
of
december
20
2021.,
I'm
gonna
call
on
councilmember
seeking,
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
leading
us
in
either
a
moment
of
silence
or
a
prayer.
Please,
sir,.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
in
this
day
of
celebration,
holiday
and
reflection,
let
us
all
think
of
and
put
a
prayer
in
for
those
who
are
less
fortunate,
those
who
are
struggling,
those
who
don't
have
loved
ones
to
turn
to
in
their
times
of
need
and
recognizing
that
each
one
of
us
is
an
avenue
of
happiness
for
somebody
and,
let's
all,
do
our
best
to
reach
out
to
someone
over
the
course
of
this
holiday
season.
We
normally
wouldn't
have
done
so
make
us
and
everybody
else
better
for
it.
In
god's
name,
we
pray,
amen.
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A
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F
F
The
high
level
with
this
is
that
very
similar
to
the
police
department
and
how
they
embed
somebody
with
the
joint
terrorism
task
force.
The
fbi
office
out
of
columbia
approached
us,
and
they
want
to
have
a
fire
department
person
on
an
as
needed
basis
support
their
efforts
with
the
joint
terrorism
task
force,
either
through
training
of
their
personnel
or
through
some
intelligence.
F
Sharing.
This
wouldn't
be
a
full-time
position
and
by
the
fbi's
own
design.
The
overtime
that
is
generated
is
not
to
be
paid
back
to
the
municipality,
but
we've
partnered
with
them
over
the
last
year
on
various
activities,
mostly
related
to
paramedic
response
for
warrants,
and
the
overtime
is
not
much
at
all.
D
A
Chief
corey,
I
just
assumed
we
had
something
like
this
already
in
place
quite
frankly,
and
it
makes
this
good
common
sense.
The
more
we
coordinate
with
our
other
partners,
the
better
off,
I
think
we're
all
going
to
be,
and
hopefully
we
never
have
to
use
this
mou.
But
thank
you
for
that
report.
All
those
in
favor
by
saying
aye
hi
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
habit.
Thank
you,
chief
courier
and
don't
go
anywhere.
I've
got
to
have
another
question
for
you
later
on
on
the
agenda.
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The
second
item:
the
next
item
is
approval
to
apply
with
to
the
rotary
club
of
charleston
a
leadership
grant
for
an
amount
of
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
training.
This
is
an
after
the
fact
approval
the
mayor,
and
I
are
both
members
of
this
rotary
club,
I
think,
and
also
councilmember
carl
brady
as
well
and
mike's
councilman
seeking
didn't.
You
join
our
club
recently.
C
A
B
A
G
Dot
crabb
who's
the
agent
that
was
given
the
presentation
I
emailed
him
last
week
after
we
rescheduled
only
to
find
out
that
he
was
off
last
week,
didn't
get
my
email
until
today
and
he
was
not
available
to
give
the
presentation.
So
there
was
a
little
bit
of
a
miscommunication
and
I
think
that
the
chief
had
indicated
to
him
that
we'd
get
to
him
in
the
new
year.
So
if
we
could
defer
this
and
then
reschedule
and
I'll
make
sure
that
we
have
him
and
all
the
tech
technical
issues
are
worked
out.
A
A
B
H
H
It
gets
a
little
ambiguous.
I
think,
moving
forward.
As
far
as
the
noise
origin
is
concerned,
I
think
it's
important
that
that
legal
and
all
I
guess,
departments
that
that
are
applicable
to
the
ordinance
can
meet,
maybe
streamline
it
to
make
it
more
clear,
especially
for
evidentiary
and
prosecuting
or
prosecuting
reasons,
but
I'll
tell
you
I
I
know.
Lounge
grove
has
always
been
an
issue.
H
H
H
It
is
more
of
a
zoning
issue
with
that
particular
location
and
and
what
we've
looked
into
councilman
and
I
think
julia
would
like
to
maybe
convene
a
meeting
with
them
going
forward.
But
again
we
need
to
also
regroup
as
city
staff
and
take
a
deep
dive
into
the
current
noise
ordinance.
Because
I'll
tell
you
it's
all
over
the
map
and
it
really
needs
to
be
clear
and
concise,
which
will
help
the
police
and
us
when
we
have
to
enforce
it.
But
I'll.
Let
julia
pick
up
and.
A
Julia
before
you
get
on
dan,
we
we
had
other
discussions
dealing
with
noise
ordinances
and
those
went
before
the
public
works
committee
that
we
dealt
with
that
it's
been
over
a
year,
but
we
were
dealing
with
things
with
construction
noise.
I
think
or
work
work-related
noise.
So
your
point
is
well
taken.
There
seems
to
be
more
than
one
ordinance
dealing
with
quote-unquote
noise.
A
H
Correct
and
the
construction
noise,
your
ordinance
you're,
referring
to
is
under
public
service
under
the
building
code
because
of
the
nature
of
the
construction,
whether
being
a
private
citizen
versus
your
contractor
and
then
it's
cur
is
further
defined
as
larger
projects,
construction
projects
and
days
and
hours
of
operation.
But
I
think,
honestly,
to
be
more
clear,
going
through
both
ordinances,
particularly
2116,
loud
noise
and
really
doing
a
comprehensive
view
is
important
at
this
time.
H
A
E
Sure
I'm
happy
to
I'll
make
it
brief.
I
mean
the
noise
ordinance
is
very
subjective
in
nature,
and
this
apparently
has
always
been
a
topic
of
heated
conversation.
Do
we
want
to
keep
it
subjective
or
do
we
want
to
turn
it
into
like
savannah
or
berkeley
where
it's
rated
by
decibel
level,
and
then
that
would
require
the
purchase
of
new
equipment
to
help
police
measure?
E
Make
it
a
bit
more
scientific
when
citing
people?
So
that's
you
know
a
conversation
that
council
is
going
to
have
to
have
and
a
decision
council's
going
to
have
to
make
if
they
want
to
make
these
kind
of
significant
changes
with
the
noise
traveling
over
the
water
councilman
shade,
our
nor's
ordinance
allows
amplified
music
up
until
11
o'clock.
So
it
really
depends
on
the
hour
that
your
constituent
was
complaining
about
the
noise.
E
A
I
I
just
think,
perhaps
if
we
look
at
our
other
ordinances,
dealing
with
noise
and
dan
brought
out
to
one
dealing
with
construction,
and
we
have
a
consistent
policy,
that's
going
to
make
it
easier,
for,
I
think
the
police
and
our
code
enforcement
folks
and
for
council
as
well,
and
judges
too.
I
would
suspect
so
where
do
we
go
from
here?
Is
this
something
that
your
department
is
going
to
take
to
lead
on
and
and
just
go
through
these
various
ordinances
and
see
what
what
we
need
to
tweak.
E
A
D
You
know
this
topic
came
up,
mr
chairman,
when
the
hotel
task
force
in
its
later
days
met
about
the
issue
of
rooftop
bars
and
we
discussed
the
noise
coming
from
rooftop
bars,
and
then
we
discussed
the
fact
that
it
wasn't
just
hotels.
It
was
just
noise
in
general,
and
so
there
was
the
intent
of
both
legal
and
planning
department
to
take
a
a
review
to
do
a
review
of
our
existing
noise
ordinances
or
ordinance,
as
as
dan
pointed
out,
it
hadn't
been
updated
since
2011.
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D
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
the
mayor
sort
of
touched
on
most
the
points
I
wanted
to
make,
but
I
think-
and
I
know
that
dan
will
back
me
up
on
this
ever
since
I
first
got
elected
now
almost
13
years
ago.
This
has
been
a
topic.
That's
come
up
every
couple
of
years
and
we've
tried
to
get
our
arms
around
it
and
mr
mayor,
one
of
the
big
issues
has
always
been.
C
It's
just
it's
very
difficult
to
find
that
number
and
then,
when
I
got
elected,
steve
snyder
got
rest.
His
soul
called
me
and
said:
there's
three
things
you
need
to
be
aware
of.
As
you
enter
city
council,
I
forget
what
the
first
two
were,
but
the
third
was
noise
and
the
noise
ordinance
and
it
was
surrounding
the
governor
bennett
house.
C
I
think
councilmember
mitchell
probably
remembers
this
governor
governor
bennett
house
had
lots
of
parties
lots
of
loud
noise
and
they
got
hauled
into
small
claims
court
by
the
neighborhood
association
and
they
actually
entered
into
an
agreement
over
hours
of
operation
and
a
decibel
level,
and
the
decibel
level
lasted
literally
about
seven
seconds,
because
what
came
from
that
was
no
one
could
agree
how
to
calibrate
the
decibel
meter.
No
agree
where
to
take
the
decibel
reading
from
was
it
the
middle
of
the
street?
Was
it
the
edge
of
the
street?
C
There
was
questions
about
which
direction
the
wind
was
blowing,
was
it
east
or
west,
because
that
made
a
big
difference
in
the
neighborhoods,
much
like
it
does
across
from
wilds
grove
across
the
river.
So
I
would
be
interested
without
asking
our
legal
team
to
do
too
much
work.
What
other
jurisdictions
have
done
visa
via
a
more
objective
decibel
based
test,
but
I
I
think
word
to
the
wise.
It
comes
fraught
with
its
own
set
of
issues
and
for
certain,
mr
mayor,
the
motorcycles,
as
you
can
all
imagine
in
downtown
district
8.
C
The
motorcycle
noise
is
something
that
we
hear
about.
All
the
time,
and
if
there's
something
we
can
do
great,
but
I
think
this
one
is
a
little
thornier
than
you
might
think,
mr
chairman,
in
terms
of
finding
a
decibel
level
that
works
and
then
how
you
actually
take
that
reading
and
then
bring
it
forward
with
court,
it's
it's
it's!
It's
tough
for
sure.
Yeah.
A
Well,
I
I
don't
want
to
open
up
pandora's
box
on
this,
but,
as
dan
said,
it's
been
since
almost
10
years
since
we've
had
another
discussion
on
it,
so
it's
worthy
to
see
what
we
can
and
cannot
do-
and
I
appreciate
everybody's
weighing
in
on
on
this,
so
julia,
we'll
look
to
you
and
dan
to
come
back.
You've
heard
our
comments
on
this
thing
and
we'll
you
know
the
we've
got
the
holidays
coming
up
and
the
first
of
the
year.
A
C
A
The
other,
the
other
thing
we
probably
can
be
looking
at
is
containment
of
some
degree.
So
this,
while
they're
outside
in
the
open,
maybe
we
require
them
to
put
up
some
kind
of
sound
barriers.
I
don't
know
the
answer
right
now,
but
I'll
look
forward
to
a
healthy
discussion.
The
first
of
next
year,
councilman
shea,
can
ask
you
a
question.
Yes,
ma'am.
B
A
B
Okay,
well,
thank
you.
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
surprised,
we're
hearing
those
specific
things
when
you've
got
the
lagree
waring
house
and
you've
got
the
founders
hall
right
there,
almost
in
those
neighborhoods,
and
we're
not
hearing
that.
I
guess
when
you
say
specifically
about
these,
these
others,
but
I
would,
I
would
hate
for
that
to
affect
the
fireworks
that
go
on
at
the
river
dogs
game
as
well.
I
don't
know
if
that's,
if
that's
what
you're
talking
about
as
well,
but.
A
Well,
I
I
I
have
to
tell
you
councilman
shealy.
I
have
a
vantage
point
of
view
and
everybody's
welcome
to
come
to
my
house
on
friday
nights
doing
baseball
season,
because
I
can
sit
on
my
back
porch
and
I
have
a
bird's
eye
view
of
the
fireworks.
So
I
agree
I
don't
I
don't
want
to
take
away
from
the
fireworks
on
friday
night,
which
is
a
different
kind
of
noise.
I
mean
it's
just.
A
C
A
C
A
C
H
C
Julia,
if
you
don't
have
a
copy
of
that,
you
ought
to
take
a
look
at
it,
because
at
least
that
was
some
attempt
between
somebody
who's,
creating
the
noise,
the
court
and
the
private
sector
to
come
up
with
a
solution,
whether
it's
ideal
or
not.
I
don't
know,
but
if
dan
says
it's
not
working
and
I
haven't
heard
a
lot
of
complaints
about
it
lately.
Although.
C
H
It's
basically,
it
sets
out
a
schematic
or
a
view
of
the
courtyard
and
where
the
bands
are
allowed
to
place
and
where
the
speakers
are
supposed
to
point
the
volume
that
it's
supposed
to
be
at
it's
very
destructive
and
that's
easier
to
to
enforce.
If
you
will
with
the
wording,
that's
in
that
that
court
order
agreement.
C
A
B
A
A
So
I
I
I
my
mistake.
I
I
told
you
I
was
going
to
prompt
you
about
tours
of
fire
stations
at
our
last
committee
meeting
and
as
councilmember
seeking
just
reminded
me.
Sometimes
you
sit
on
these
meetings
and
there's
nothing
on
the
agenda
for
you
and
we
need
to
recognize
you
and
give
you
the
opportunity
to
chime
in
on
something
that
may
not
be
on
the
agenda.
A
But
you
want
to
update
us
on
or
bring
to
our
attention
and
I'm
going
to
fix
that
coming
next
year
for
you
and
chief
reynolds,
if
you
don't
have
a
specific
item
on
the
agenda,
just
leave
that
as
a
standing
agenda
item
to
say
anything
from
the
fire
department,
anything
from
the
police
department.
So
we'll
we'll
cover
that.
But
you
you
did
have
you
and
I
have
had
some
discussions
about
fire
station
tours
and
did
you
want
to
talk
about
that
real
quickly
before
I
let
you
go,
sir.
F
Certainly,
thank
you.
After
the
conversations
that
you
and
I
have
had
the
mayor-
and
I
discussed
it
last
week
and
I've
got
four
fridays
blocked
out
and
three
of
them
are
in
january,
one
goes
into
february
and
just
trying
to
break
the
city
up
into
the
different
sections
where
we
could
go
and
look
at
the
firehouses
and
see
really
what
work
has
been
done
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
because
there
have
been
a
lot
of
projects
that
we
have
been
able
to
accomplish,
but
then
also
what
still
needs
to
be
done.
F
I
think
infrastructure
in
the
fire
houses
is
one
of
the
the
highest
priorities
that
the
mayor
identified
for
me.
When
I
came
in
a
couple
of
years
ago,
so
I'll
send
the
schedule
out
and
then,
depending
on
how
many
council
members
want
to
go
to
the
different
fire
houses,
then
I
can
line
up
transportation
or,
if
it'd
be
more
convenient
for
everybody
to
just
meet
at
one
central
location
and
travel
to
the
firehouses
in
separate
vehicles.
A
That
that'd
be
great.
I
just
wanted
to
learn
members
of
the
committee
about
that,
and
I
know
that
council
member
sheila
you've
raised
some
of
those
questions
before
as
well,
and
I
took
a
tour
of
some
of
the
fire
stations
firehouses
within
my
district
and
it
was
an
eye-opening
experience
and
I
thought
that
was
very
worthwhile
for
me
and
I
think
for
the
committee
and
for
other
council
members
as
well
and
the
mayor
to
take
advantage
of
this
opportunity.
So
chief
thanks
for
putting
that
together
and
for
creating
the
logistics
for
that.
F
And
could
I
add
one
more
thing?
Yes,
sir,
I
was
I
was
speaking
with
chief
jalazada
a
little
while
ago
and
he's
on
the
call,
but
it's
probably
about
time
for
the
fire
department
to
update
this
committee
on
our
efforts
with
diversity
and
inclusion
within
the
within
the
fire
department.
So
I
had
sent
every
council
member
an
email
back
in
july.
A
I
will
put
it
on
the
agenda-
maybe
not
the
first
meeting
in
january,
but
maybe
the
second
meeting
in
january
to
do
that
perfect.
Thank
you
thanks
chief
for
bringing
that
back
up,
and
I
do
remember
that
discussion
we
had
earlier
this
year.
So
thanks
for
the
reminder,
thank
you
all
right.
Any
other
item
we
needed
to
discuss
for
this
committee
meeting
all
right,
seeing
none.
We
will
be
adjourned
and
I'll
see
a
good
number
of
you
guys
in
about
30
minutes
or
so.
Thank
you.