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City of Charleston Committee on Public Safety Meeting 6/16/22
A
Mayor
all
right
well
welcome
everybody
here
to
this
meeting.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
the
approval
of
our
may
9,
2022
and
I'll
entertain
a
motion
for
some
changes.
Second,
all
those
in
favor
aye
the
eyes
have
it
all
right.
I've
asked
our
new
head,
honcho
judge
that
showed
you
exactly
the
title
we
should
be
bestowed
on.
You
judge
rodina.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
You
and
judge
morrison
have
been
the
leaders,
the
new
leader
of
the
municipal
court
system
and
so
I've.
A
I
know,
there's
been
some
changes
with
our
court
administrator
and
some
other
changes
that
you
and
I
have
discussed,
and
our
two
guests
who
are
here
with
us
today,
former
judge
mcfarland
and
jerry
harris
and
I've
had
several
conversations
about
some
of
the
concerns
that
we've
expressed
with
the
court
system.
So
I
thought
it'd
be
appropriate
for
either
you
or
judge
morrison
to
lead
us
with
what
has
occurred
in
the
past.
I
guess
six
months,
or
so,
with
the
with
the
administration
of
our
court
system.
D
D
The
presentation
also
with
me
today
are
joanne
hayes
and
james
moody,
who
are
people
who
have
been
part
of
the
core
team
for
a
while
number
of
years
and
have
recently
been
promoted
to
management
positions,
and
I
would
like
to
say
that
they
are
doing
an
amazing
job,
so
I
know
we
need
to
move
quickly
this
afternoon.
Our
time
is
limited.
D
I
did
hand
out
to
everyone,
a
packet
of
information
that
may
give
you
more
detail
than
you're
asking
for,
but
I
thought
this
would
be
a
good
opportunity
for
the
court
to
come
before
this
committee
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
the
year
in
review.
What
we've
accomplished,
what
our
challenges
were.
I
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
court
organization.
D
D
The
responsibilities
of
the
court
are
obviously
to
support
the
judges
and
to
properly
administer
the
activities
of
the
court,
and
that
is
everything
from
the
day-to-day
docket
in
courts
in
court
operations,
management
of
finances
and
everything
in
between
and
if
I'm
going
too
fast
at
any
point
in
time,
just
please
raise
your
hand
or
jump
in
joanne's
doing
a
great
job
so
far,
so
good.
So
far
so
good,
I
told
her,
I
couldn't
chew,
gum
and
walk
at
the
same
time.
So
so
what
were
our
goals
of
2021
and
2022?
D
And-
and
I
had
the
good
fortune-
thank
you
to
the
mayor
and
city
council
of
joining
the
court
in
september
of
2021
and
but
was
familiar
with
the
court
activities
before
that
time
because
being
in
the
legal
department,
the
court
operations
did
report
directly
to
the
legal
department.
So
I
was
familiar
with
the
status
of
the
court
activities,
so
our
goals
were
really
to
reduce
the
backlog
of
cases,
improve
the
communications
with
defendants,
jurors
and
our
citizens
improve
the
court,
software
and
technology.
D
A
A
D
That's
correct
and-
and
I
should
have
started
out
by
and
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
second
in
the
organizational
structure,
but
I
am
the
full-time
administrative
judge,
but
also
sit
on
the
bench
several
times
a
month,
so
we
were
able
to
convert
to
a
new
computer
software
system
which
is
cms.
It's
called
it's
a
system,
that's
being
used
by
other
municipal
courts
and
state
courts
and
county
courts
throughout
the
state.
I
will
tell
you
that
there
have
been
some
hiccups
and
bumps
in
integrating
the
software
into
our
system.
D
D
But
again
we
needed
to
make
this
change
because
the
old
system
was
outdated,
would
not
be
renewed,
and
so
that
was
a
major
improvement
and
project
for
us
this
year
and
we
implemented
at
the
end
of
february.
We
now
our
cases
can
be
accessible
through
the
charleston
county
website.
I
went
and
checked
today
and
there's
a
as
of
today.
A
And
let
me
know
at
this
point
because
those
of
us
who
are
lawyers
in
practice
regularly
we're
familiar
with
both
the
the
federal
system
of
online
access
to
records
in
the
state
had
implemented
a
system.
I
guess
just
about
maybe
three
four
years
in
the
making
and
so
charleston
county
has
what's
called
court
plus
as
the
access
to
public
records
are,
you
are?
Are
we
hooked
up
to
that
court
plus
system,
or
is
this
a
separate
system
on.
D
E
D
We
changed
the
time
for
when
jurors
could
come
to
court.
We
had
originally
summoned
them
at
nine
o'clock,
they're
now
coming
at
10
o'clock,
and
the
point
of
that
was
we
found
that
they
were
waiting
an
hour
for
the
prosecutor
and
the
defendants
to
basically
get
their
act
together
and
it
was
causing
some
disgruntled
jurors
or
potential
jurors.
So
we
moved
the
time
back
and
I
think
that
has
caused
us
to
be
more
efficient,
as
well
as
the
jurors
being
more
accommodating.
D
D
D
We
promoted
two
of
our
staff
members
to
senior
management
positions.
We
also
initiated
a
rotation
system
for
our
bailiffs.
We
have
three
bailiffs
and
we
found
that
they
were
not
all
cross-trained
so
now
we're
rotating
them
in
and
out
of
the
courtrooms
with
both
jury
trials
and
bench
trials
so
that
they
understand
how
the
court
works
better.
D
We
hired
a
second
part-time
dui
public
defender
because
well,
it's
actually
our
first
public
defender
for
dui
exclusively,
because
we
found
that,
with
the
number
of
dui
cases
that
there
was
a
a
need
for
that
part-time
public
defender
and
we
finally
installed
new
cubicles
in
the
court.
It
was
something
that
the
court
had
been
asking
for
for
a
number
of
years.
They
were
the
court
shut
down
for
one
week
in
this
past
june
and
we
repurposed
the
cubicles
we
had
and
they're
now
at
the
hope
center.
D
A
In
can
I
interrupt
you
again
judge,
so
I,
with
the
coveted
middle
options
for
the
public
to
know
the
court
was
pretty
much
shut
down
and
then
court
was
also
held
only
remotely
in
certain
circumstances.
So
when
you
mentioned
covet,
it
was
a
real
issue
of
having
the
ability
to
have
in-person
or
even
remote
court
hearings,
the
other
challenge-
and
you
may
be
getting
into
this
a
little
bit
later.
A
D
But
there's
a
good
ending
to
that
story,
so
organization
chart.
Obviously
we
have
our
our
judges
over
there
on
the
right
chief
judge,
morrison
judge
maloney,
who
handles
livability
and
sc
str,
judge
byrd,
who
also
handles
homeless
court,
which
he's
going
to
speak
about
in
a
second
and
judge
ferguson
who
handles
the
dui
court.
D
D
All
right
types
of
court,
I
think,
just
to
remind
everybody-
we
do
have
seven
different
types
of
courts
operating
throughout
the
week
and
and
at
different
times
during
the
month.
I
think
you're,
all
familiar
with
the
criminal
court
traffic
livability,
str,
dui,
homeless,
court
judge
byrd
is
the
one
who
helped
put
that
court
together
and
it's
very
it's
a
really
interesting
and
unique
court,
and
I
thought
it
would
be
helpful
if
she
could
just
speak
to
that
court
for
a
few
minutes.
E
At
the
end
of
the
program.
The
goal
is
permanent
housing.
However,
the
support
that
we
have
from
180
place
in
assisting
us
with
this
court
program
provides
above
and
beyond
housing.
They
help
people
obtain
necessary
job
skills,
get
job
interviews,
help
them
with
disability
benefits
and
any
other
facets
of
their
needs.
That
can
help
them
put
together
a
a
more
successful
lifestyle.
E
So
they
not
only
finish
this
program
with
housing,
but
usually
with
a
lot
more
resources
than
what
they
had
when
they
came
in.
Unfortunately,
the
inability
to
a
whole
court
in
person
during
the
coveted
closures
really
stifled
a
defendant's
access
to
the
homeless
court
program.
We
have
found
that
that
program
is
most
successful
when
it
is
done
in
person
when
we
can
kind
of
have
one-on-one
routine
contact
with
our
participants
checking
in
with
them.
E
Court
was
so
well
known.
Amongst
the
community,
they
would
actually
go
to
180
place
on
their
own
and
request
an
application
they
were
coming
to
us.
We
were
not
having
to
refer
them
and
that's
where
we
like
to
get
back
to
so.
What
we're
doing
at
this
time
is
we're
working
very
closely
with
emily
beck
who's
in
the
housing
department.
A
B
Good
work
keep
it
up
and
thank
you
for
working
with
emily
and
our
other
new
staff
we've
reopened
the
hope
center,
as
you
know,
and
look
to
provide
even
more
services
there.
So
I
think
we
have
a
real
opportunity
over
the
next
six
months
to
a
year
to
really
get
back,
as
you
say
where
it
used
to
be.
Thank
you
judge
bird.
A
Thank
you
mayor,
and
now
I
just
want
to
add
on
to
that.
The
the
idea
of
a
homeless
court
was
brought
to
our
attention.
When
I
was
on
the
charleston
county
bar
association
executive
committee.
It
was
a
new
concept,
quite
frankly,
several
years
ago
to
to
do
this
and
it
was
to
really
address
what
joshua
has
mentioned.
It's
a
unique
situations
and
neat
issues,
and
I
remember
my
early
days
as
a
public
defender
as
we
would
address
homelessness
it
would.
A
It
was
mainly
a
matter
of
people
being
arrested,
so
they
would
have
a
warm
place
to
stay
on
a
cold
night.
It
was
a
inhumane
way
of
handling
it,
but
they
thought
that
was
just
the
only
alternative
we
had
at
the
time
was
to
get
people
off
the
street
for
their
own
safety,
and
we've
come
a
long
way
from
from
that
back
in
the
80s
and
90s
and
we're
addressing
this
in
a
much
more
humane
nanowrim.
I
think
so.
Thank
you
all
for
your
work
on
that.
It's
very
important.
A
D
D
We
had
originally
scheduled
in
the
beginning
of
the
year.
The
first
dui
jury
trials
were
supposed
to
be
held
in
october
of
2020,
and
that
was
postponed
due
to
the
supreme
court
order.
In
july
of
2021,
the
supreme
court
allowed
jury
trials
to
resume
and
we
sent
out
summonses
for
75,
jurors
and
eight
appeared.
D
So
we
could
not
conduct
any
jury
trial
that
month.
The
second
month
august
of
2021,
we
upped
the
number
of
summonses
sent
out
and
there
were
150,
jurors,
summoned
and
only
13
appeared,
and
the
majority
of
the
jurors
who
responded
and
asked
to
be
excused
during
that
time
were
either
because
they
had
coveted
a
family
member
had
coveted
a
or
somehow
they
had
a
work
related
issue
that
during
covid
would
not
allow
them
to
come
in
to
the
court.
D
D
A
Let's
just
expand
this
a
little
bit
the
public
understands
in
municipal
and
magistrate
level
courts.
We
generally
have
six
jurors
and
one
or
two
alternates,
I
think,
judge
mcfarland.
That
would
be
you
know
no
more
practice.
One
judge
morrison,
so
you
you
have
to
have
enough
jurors
available
so
that
each
the
the
city
and
the
defendant
had
enough
for
a
strike,
or
somebody
had
to
be
excused
for
a
particular
reason
for
one
term
to
to
another.
A
Exactly
so
that
was
the
strike
for
cause
would
also
reduce
that
number
down.
So
for
the
numbers
that
you're
all
showing
you
just
can't
have
eight
jurors
show
up,
and
you
take
those
eight
and
go.
That's
your
jury.
That's
not
fair
to
the
defendant,
not
fair
to
the
to
the
city
as
as
well
as
a
prosecutor,
so
in
in
courts
cannot
function
unless
jurors
show
up,
and
sometimes
it
takes
the
presence
of
a
jury
to
help
the
case
get
moved
along
because
you've
got
a
panel
of
folks
there
ready
to
hear
a
case.
C
C
A
A
If
you
told
me
it
was
five
percent
of
10.
That's
not
that
big
of
a
deal,
but
you
got
after
a
quarter
of
a
jurors,
are
still
being
ignored
and
you
take
that
into
account
the
numbers
who
are
undelivered,
plus
the
numbers
that
are
actually
to
be
excused
for
reasons
you
don't
want
to
get
back
into
that
that
situation
where
you
can't
hold
court.
D
So,
even
in
spite
of
all
this,
I
wanted
to
give
you
some
information
on
what
the
court
has
been
doing,
and
I
asked
staff
to
look
at
the
period
from
may
31
2021
to
may
31
2022,
because
I
felt
like
in
may
of
2021.
We
again
were
starting
to
come
out
of
covid.
We
were
having
more
bench
trials
and
and
more
cases
were
being
moved.
So
during
that
one
year
period
we
had
2801
criminal
offenses
that
were
resolved
and
that
would
have
been
either
through
a
dismissal.
D
As
far
as
livability
goes,
livability
has
been
very
active.
Also
in
the
last
year,
899
livability
offenses
were
resolved.
187
str
offenses,
probably
not
surprising,
to
anyone.
The
largest
number
of
cases
that
were
resolved
in
livability
court
were
the
failure
to
wear
a
face,
mask
and
judge
maloney.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
comment
on
liveability
court
at
this
point
at
all.
Well,.
F
A
large
number
of
people
did
not
post
bond
and
we
have
to
try
those
cases,
those
mask
cases,
so
it
took
a
lot
of
resources,
but
fortunately
we
were
able
to
get
through
most
of
it
without
a
lot
of
political
discourse
in
the
courtroom.
I
made
sure
that
wasn't
going
to
happen
and
we're
down.
We
finished,
we
got
rid
of
them
all.
It
was
an
aberration,
something
I've
never
seen
before
and
I
don't
think
the
city
has
ever
gone
through
anything
like
that
before.
F
F
F
I
want
to
make
one
quick
comment
too.
Susan.
I
made
a
note
one
of
our
bale
of
speak
spanish
and
I've
noticed
this.
I
also
serve
as
a
judge
on
another
in
another
city
here,
seeing
a
very
large
number
of
hispanic-speaking
defendants,
especially
in
traffic
court,
and
it's
very
helpful
to
have
somebody
right
there.
I
could.
I
can
struggle
to
get
through
spanish,
but
james
parlor
speaks
spanish
and
he's
a
retired
officer
from
california.
A
D
Okay,
then
dui
court
just
briefly
touch
upon
it.
We'll
get
some
more
statistics
on
this
in
a
little
bit
later.
That
are,
I
think,
favorable
basically
during
this
period
of
time,
again
hands
tied
behind
the
back
as
a
result
of
covet
restrictions.
But
during
the
one
year
period
of
may
31
2021
to
may
31,
2022
309
dui
cases
were
resolved.
D
So
let's
talk
about
our
pending
caseload
right
now
there
are
857
criminal
offenses
pending,
and
that
includes
both
livability
and
str.
There
are
a
thousand
and
ninety
seven
traffic
offenses
pending.
In
addition,
there's
a
hundred
and
sixty
criminal
traffic
offenses
on
the
jury,
trial,
docket
and
there's
189
criminal
traffic
offenses
on
the
pre-trial
docket
livability.
There
are
73
pending
offenses
30
livability
offenses
on
on
the
jury,
trial,
docket
and
judge.
Maloney
will
tell
you
that
that's
not
a
good
figure
as
of
june
right
judge.
That's
right!.
F
D
So
one
thing
that
came
up
at
the
last
meeting
was
trying
to
compare
what
had
happened
back
in
2019
to
where
we
were
six
months
ago,
and
I've
done
a
rough
comparison
here.
I
shouldn't
say
rough:
I
think
it's
a
good
comparison,
but
we
don't
have
apples
to
apples
because
in
19
we
were
working
under
a
gem
system.
D
D
And
so
sometimes
these
numbers
can
be
misleading,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
work
going
on
behind
a
case
to
try
to
get
a
defendant
in
the
best
position
possible,
but
at
the
same
time
protect
the
citizens
through
the
prosecutor.
So
but
going
on
continuing
in
20.
In
2018,
there
were
44
cases
on
the
criminal
jury
trial
docket.
We
now
have
10
in
2019
there
were
214
and
right
now
we
have
21..
D
So
there's
been
a
good
effort
to
get
those
aging
cases
taken
care
of.
However,
you
can
see-
and
this
is
sort
of
the
cobit
bubble
hitting
right
now
for
2024,
there's,
94,
jury,
trial
or
pretrial
cases
from
2021,
there's,
175
and
so
for
the
first
and
for
the
first
part
of
2022,
there's
46.,
so
those
those
are
the
cases
that
we
really
need
to
be
focusing
on
going
forward.
D
D
There
were
four
four
cases
that
were
dating
back
to
2017
those
have
been
cleared
out.
There
were
28
2018
cases,
those
have
been
cleared
out.
There
were
151
cases
in
2019
and
our
records
now
show
their
three,
so
he
he
has
organized
his
docket
in
a
way
that
puts
the
older
cases
first
and
basically
pushes
those
cases
forward.
Again,
you
can
see
the
covet
bubble
here,
hitting
158
cases
from
2021,
and
so
far
this
year
we've
got
55.
D
D
D
We
also
have
difficulty
on
cases
locating
victims
and
they
have
victims
rights,
very
serious
victims,
rights
in
south
carolina
that
we
need
to
make
sure
are
being
protected
and
enforced.
Of
course,
we
have
conflicts
with
other
courts.
General
sessions,
court
court
of
appeals
other
places.
So
you
know
we
we
don't
always
get
lawyers
to
show
up
on
their
court
dates
because
they
have
conflicts
with
other
jurisdictions
who
have
more
seniority
than
we
do
so
so,
but
nonetheless
this
is
a
goal
we
need
to
keep
working
on
this.
D
We
need
to
keep
our
eye
focused
on
it.
So
I
think
what
we'd
like
to
do-
and
this
is
actually
an
idea
of
judge
ferguson-
is
that
he
would
like
to
try
out,
which
is
right
now
in
dui
court
we
have
one
month
pre-trial
the
next
month.
Jury
trial,
the
next
month's
pre-trial,
and
what
he's
finding
is
the
lawyers
understandably
respond
more
to
being
called
up
for
a
jury
trial
than
a
pre-trial,
and
so
we
are
talking
about
eliminating
in
a
certain
number
of
pre-trials
and
substituting
jury
trials
for
that.
D
D
So
that's
one
thing:
we
also
have
a
fifth
month,
three
times
a
year
which
right
now
where
the
court
isn't
being
totally
utilized,
and
so
we
think
that
there's
some
time
there
that
we
could
possibly
schedule
what's
called
tias
trying
your
absence
cases
jury
cases
where
a
defendant
has
asked
for
a
jury
trial
and
has
disappeared.
But
you
still
need
to
try
that
case
and
so
therefore
we're
looking
at
that
real
quickly.
Our
goals,
that's
up
there.
D
D
A
I
was
very
exhausted
and
thorough,
but
we
need
to
have
this
review
because
our
backlog
was
was
so
dismal,
particularly
while
we
hired
a
dui
judge
and
prosecutor
and
public
defender,
because
the
number
of
pending
cases
were
just
getting
out
of
control-
and
I
know
kova
was
a
big
part
of
all
that,
but
we
appreciate
the
upgrade
on
that.
I
would
just
want
to
go
back
very
quickly
to
the
organizational
chart,
because
my
conversations
with
judge
mc
mcfarland
and
mr
harris
had
dealt
with
the
issues
dealing
with
that.
A
A
A
We
do
have
a
major
concern
in
making
sure
that
our
citizens
who
are
being
charged
with
a
crime,
no
matter
if
it's
a
traffic
violation
or
a
livability
issue,
whatever
level
of
offense,
that
we
are
addressing
those
fairly
and
accurately
as
as
well
so
organizationally
you
sound,
like
y'all,
are
doing
a
great
job.
I
mean
it's
just
with
these
numbers
that
you've,
given
us
and
the
staff
y'all
have
done.
A
D
Well,
I
I
did
talk
to
joanne
and
and
james
earlier
about
the
question
and
wanted
to
get
their
input,
and
I
had
an
opportunity
to
now
observe
the
court
for
what
nine
months
or
whatever
you
know.
My
opinion
is
right.
Now
I
think
things
are
working
well,
I
think
there's
areas
that
we
can
focus
on,
that
we
haven't
had
time
to
do
yet
and
we
probably
could
use
someone
to
assist
with
court
special
projects.
D
But
and
again
we
need
to
see
our
our
main.
Our
main
needs
are
in
the
staff
in
the
courtroom,
that's
where
we
really
need
help,
and
particularly,
if
we're
going
to
be
expanding
a
little
bit
and
and
using
the
fifth
week
of
the
month
three
times
a
year.
We
really
that
is.
That
is
the
place
where
right
now
I
see
we
have
the
staffing
needs.
A
B
A
So
you
can,
you
can
direct
it
towards
me
and
then
we'll
we'll
figure
out
how
you
want
to
direct
this
but
but
authority.
I
d
you've
been
a
municipal
judge
for
more
years
and
you
want
to
say,
but
that's
right,
so
you
have
different
insight
on
this
and
I
know
that
y'all
have
been
very
much
involved
and
concerned
about
the
workings
of
the
court
staff.
So.
G
Yeah,
so
the
committee
would
know
how
jerry
harris
and
I
got
involved.
We
were
part
of
the
commission
on
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
and
so
there
was
a
criminal
justice
reform
subcommittee
as
a
part
of
the
commission,
and
I
served
on
the
sub-sub
committee
for
criminal
justice
and
the
courts,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
was
came
out
of
along
with
condon
attorney
conden
and
one
of
the
two
other
people.
I
was
named
skating
right
now.
G
There
were
four
of
us
on
this
particular
subcommittee,
dealing
with
the
the
criminal
justice
aspect
of
the
city
and
the
courts,
and
one
of
the
issues
that
came
up
primarily
was
you
know,
looking
at
the
court
from
a
constitutional
standpoint.
That
is
that
there
are
three
branches
of
government,
executive
branch,
legislative
branch
and,
of
course,
the
judicial
branch
and
whether
the
city
of
charleston
at
the
time
had
a
truly
independent
judicial
system
into
its
municipal
court
and,
of
course,
the
organization.
G
At
that
time,
I
believe,
was
the
fact
that
the
administration
of
the
court
was
really
under
the
executive
branch
and
through
corporation
council.
So
one
of
the
recommendations
that
we
had
what
we've
been
discussing
with
councilman
shaheed
is
the
fact
that
there
needed
to
be
some
independence
of
the
of
the
court
and
looking
at
the
organizational
chart
as
it
stands
today.
G
It
appears
that
there
has
been
a
return
to
that,
because,
during
the
time
that
I
served
on
the
court,
the
court
was
basically
a
department,
and
so
it
was
independent
of
the
executive.
And,
of
course
the
city
council
sets
budgets
and
it
sets
the
rules
and
the
terms
for
the
judges
and
that
sort
of
thing.
I'll
just
make
one
comment
about
the
about
the
numbers
in
1982..
G
But
the
what
I,
what
I
see
in
terms
of
the
organization
really
is
an
expansion
of
the
role
of
the
court,
and
I
think
that
is
the
important
thing
here,
because
in
addition
to
the
staffing
and
the
judges,
you
also
have
what
had
been
implemented
as
a
public
defender
system.
So
while
they're
private
attorneys,
who
represent
folk
but
there's,
also
the
important
role
of
a
public
defender,
because
we
have
so
many
people
who
are
indigent
defendants
whose
rights
are
protected
through
the
court.
G
So
that's
a
major
part
of
how
you
keep
an
independent
judiciary,
because
the
judge
doesn't
have
to
decide
whether
I'm
favoring,
the
police
officer,
are
favoritely
defended
but
being
that
neutral
party.
So
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
what
I've
heard
here
today,
especially
with
the
expansion
to
the
homeless
court,
and
that's
it
just
so
that,
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
charleston
has
always
been
a
leader
in
the
operation
of
municipal
court.
G
Of
the
municipal
court,
it
has
set
the
standard
and
continues
from
what
I
see
here
today
to
set
that
standard
and
so
that,
as
at
the
the
organizational
standpoint
from
an
independent
judiciary,
standpoint
and
judge
morrison
was
there
when
certainly
he's
he
survived
longer
than
than
I
did.
But
you
know
the
the
importance
of
judges
being
able
to
come.
Have
cases
prepared?
G
You
know,
staff
is
there
and,
of
course,
the
operation,
so
you've
got
a
the
the
setup
in
terms
of
the
administrative
judge.
So
you've
got
a
judge
who's
responsible
for
the
court.
The
director
who
basically
kind
of
takes
care
of
day-to-day
management
of
staffing
because
you've
got
a
judge,
who's,
also
an
administrative
judge,
but
sits
on
the
bench,
so
somebody's
got
to
mine
the
store.
While
you
know
the
judge
is
judging
and
so
to
have
a
full-time
judge
is
really,
I
think,
a
tremendous
move
and
one
that
had
been
advocated
for
some
time.
G
C
And
one
additional
comment:
the
one
of
the
recommendations
during
the
deliberations
of
the
the
90
120
day,
deliberations
of
our
committees
had
to
do
with
the
data
collection
system,
and
it's
very
good
to
see
that
that's
being
addressed.
One
of
the
concerns
associated
with
that
system
is
the
data
collection.
Was
the
ability
to
see
whether
or
not
there
were
disparities
that
occurred
as
a
result
of
who
was
moving
through
the
system,
timing
and
the
light.
C
So,
as
you
begin
to
think
about
the
backlogs
and
things
to
be
addressed
and
how
you're
making
adjustments
to
the
system,
whether
or
not
the
changes
that
are
being
made,
or
in
fact
making
the
system
more
more
just
that
people
are
getting
procedural
justice
people
might
have
now
with
under
the
prior
data
system.
There
wasn't
a
real
situation.
C
People
having
anecdotal
comments
right,
but
you
may
now
may
be
in
a
situation
that
you
can
actually
report
back
to
the
public
safety
committee
to
get
a
sense
of
where
we
are
in
terms
of
racial
disparities
or
other
disparities
in
that
in
that
regard,
in
terms
of
systems.
Since
the
justice
system
is
not
only
the
police
all
right,
it
is
the
courts
as
well.
A
If,
if
we
don't
have
these
safeguards
that
you
have
just
mentioned
about
the
public
defender
being
engaged
in
this
because
some
of
these
lower
liberal
crimes
like
a
dui
or
a
driving
under
suspension
or
a
drug
offense,
if
they're
convicted,
if
a
person
is
convicted,
those
lead
to
what
can
be
enhanced
sentencing
further
along
down
the
road.
For
instance,
a
person
is
convicted
of
a
drug
offense
and
then
subsequently
they're
arrested
again
for
a
general
sessions
or
a
federal
offense.
A
That
conviction
serves
as
a
predicate
offense
that
can
elevate
that
person's
sentence
to
a
minimum
term
of
imprisonment.
Even
if
it
says
simple
possession
of
marijuana
charge
likewise,
if
a
person
is
arrested
for
a
dus,
a
second
or
third
time,
it
goes
into
general
sessions
court
and
you
start
accumulating
minimum
fines
or
minimum
suspensions
or
minimum
jail
time
for
duis
or
dus.
A
So
we've
got
to
be
cognitive
of
the
responsibility
that
the
whole
court
family
staff,
from
every
aspect
of
this
from
the
victims
aspect
to
the
defendant's
aspect,
to
the
court
staff
aspect,
to
judges
to
prosecutors
or
witnesses,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
that
we
run
a
system
that
is
not
only
efficient.
But
it's
it's
fair
and
I
think
we've
been
doing
that.
I
think
we've
been
very
cautious
of
it,
but
the
questions
that
y'all
have
raised
and
the
concerns
the
only
way
to
do
that
is
to
maintain
a
level
of
independence
with
this.
A
So
that
the
folks
who
recharge
to
do
this
can
do
their
job
without
interference
and
we're
here
we
are
with,
like
you
mentioned
earlier,
the
public
safety
committee
to
sort
of
take
a
step
back
every
now
and
then
to
make
sure
that's
what's
taking
place.
That's
our
role
in
all
that,
so
we've
got
more
work
to
do.
Y'all
have
been
talking
to
me
about
it.
A
I
don't
want
to
say
howdy,
but
we
I
appreciate
the
conversations
that
we've
had,
but
we've
got
to
continue
the
conversation
and
we've
got
to
continue
the
dialogue
and
making
sure
that
we're
implementing
these
things
so
judge
dina.
Thank
you,
judge
morrison,
thank
you
for
being
here
and
anything
that
we
can
do
to
help
will
take
into
consideration
in
the
budget
process.
Some
of
these
concerns
that
you'll
have,
I
think,
they're
very
valid,
and
we
need
to
move
on
back.
A
Getting
texts
from
our
clerk
saying
I
need
to
move
on
a
little
bit
faster.
So
thank
you
all
all
for
being
here
and
thank
you
all
for
the
comments
on
that.
I
did
want
to
get
an
update
on
our
emergency
management.
I
know
that
shannon
had
just
retired,
not
necessarily
on
a
timely
basis.
Hurricane
season
just
began
so
I
just
wanted.
If
someone
could
comment
about
where
we
are
with
our
emergency
management,
with
what
is
going
on
with
that,
I
didn't
know.
If
anybody
was
available
to
talk
about
that.
C
C
I
C
D
A
Met
with
him,
shannon
told
me
he
met
with
the
mayor
and
he
met
with
me.
He
wanted
to
give
me
an
exit
update.
He
did
have
specific
recommendations.
I
think
I'm
sure
you've
talked
to
the
mayor
about
that,
and
hopefully
you
guys
one
of
the
things
that
he
mentioned
to
me
was
sort
of
where
this
all
fits
organizationally
with
the
city,
and
this
may
be
an
opportunity
to
look
at
that.
A
Those
suggestions
and
see
how
to
implement
them,
just
like
we're
doing
doing
with
the
municipal
court,
become
more
efficient
if
everybody
understands
their
roles
and
responsibilities
and
how
it
interplays,
with
the
fire
department
and
the
police
department
and
other
agencies.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we're
on
top
of
that
we're
looking
at
it
and
reassure
the
city
at
the
same
time
that,
while
we're
just
beginning
hurricane
season
that
we
got
somebody
at
the
helm
and
it's.
C
Yeah,
absolutely
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
Dale
morris
will
be
overseeing
that
that
division
that
office,
the
the
two
remaining
staff-
people,
shannon
whitehead
and
daniel
flaces-
are
there
meeting
with
dale
on
a
if
not
a
daily
basis,
on
a
weekly
basis,
and
then
the
fire
department
is
ready
to
fill
in
if
we
truly
truly
have
an
emergency
to
provide
that
kind
of
leadership,
and
we
are
looking
at
all
the
recommendations
that
shannon
has
made.
C
Exactly
and
and-
and
that
was
one
of
his
concerns-
I
think
to
be
frank
with
being
in
the
in
the
fire
department-
is
the
competing
budgetary
needs
and
demands,
and
that
that
often
he
did
not
feel
that
maybe
his
demand
rose
to
the
top
with
all
the
other
demands
the
chief
is
facing,
so
we're
looking
in
that
pretty
carefully.
Okay.
A
All
right,
thanks
for
the
update
and
we'll
probably
bug
you
a
little
bit
more
as
much
go
by
to
see
where
we
are
but
hiring
that
you
director.
Thank
you
all
for
doing
that
mayor.
If
you
don't
mind,
I
know
we
want
to
get
to
the
update
on
the
registry,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
get
this
one
thing
taken
care
of
with
this
ordinance
being
passed
and
julia.
A
A
All
right,
all
those
in
the
discussion
on
item
number,
six
cnn,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
aye
in
the
opposite,
the
eyes
have
it,
and
probably
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
to
get
done
today
and
I
wanted
to
before.
We
ran
out
of
time
that
we
we
got
that
that
squared
away.
Thank
you,
julia
for
and
chief
courier
for
working
on
that
making
sure
we
weren't
in
compliance.
I
Sir,
so
good
afternoon,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
public
safety
committee,
so
I'm
gonna,
be
very,
very
brief
and
just
give
a
quick
overview
of
the
status
of
the
rental
registry
program.
We
will
have
a
much
more
in-depth,
detailed
presentation
in
at
the
july
cd
committee,
when
we
actually
have
more
details
about
the
program
ironed
out
across
the
groups.
I
would
just
start
out
by
reminding
everybody
that
rental
registries
are
have
been
around
for
quite
a
while
they're,
actually
pretty
prevalent
here
in
south
carolina.
I
Oftentimes
you'll
see
these
in
college
towns,
but
you
do
see
them
also
in
a
lot
of
places
with
a
lot
of
hospitality
and
tourist
energy
as
well,
and
they
can
run
the
gambit
so
again
at
their
base,
they're,
usually
about
providing
up-to-date,
relevant
contact
information
for
the
property,
so
that
in
case
there
is
any
situation
that
may
occur.
It
allows
for
our
livability
folks,
our
public
safety
folks
to
be
able
to
contact
the
responsible
party
and
and
and
try
to
quickly
address
the
situation
that
may
be
happening
at
the
property.
I
At
its
farthest
end,
they
can
include
safety
inspections,
usually
their
annual
or
every
couple
year,
safety
inspections
that
can
occur
and
other
services
that
may
go
along
with
the
registry
program
for
the
city
of
charleston.
We've
been
actually
looking
at
the
concept
of
a
registry
program
since
2013..
In
fact,
they
did
some
early
work
in
2013
on
creating
a
rental
registry
program
that
did
not
end
up
going
anywhere.
I
However,
as
a
part
of
the
city
plan
work,
in
addition
to
other
conversations
that
were
just
generally
happening
in
the
community,
particularly
here
in
the
downtown
area
we
did
hear
during
those
outreach
sessions
and
data
gathering
sessions,
a
concern
for
absentee
landlords
and
tenant
accountability
is
one
of
our
quality
of
life
issues
again,
particularly
in
downtown,
but
not
exclusively
to
downtown.
We
did
hear
about
it
in
other
areas
of
the
community
as
well.
I
I
Livability
issues
when
you
have
a
high
rental
occupancy
area
and
then
also
in
2020
staff,
began
some
just
early
drafting
of
some
ordinance
language
in
2021
and
into
this
year
the
team
has
taken
that
draft
language
and
has
been
working
to
refine
that
in
an
internal
working
group,
that's
included
folks
from
planning
department,
specifically
becca
hopson
and
the
team
in
business
and
neighborhood
services
in
the
neighborhoods
group.
It's
also
involved
dan
riccio
and
the
livability
team,
as
well
as
folks
in
livability,
most
recently
magaly
from
julia's
team
we've
been
working
on.
I
How
would
the
the
workflow
for
the
permitting
system
work?
What
would
the
application
look
like?
What
kind
of
information
do
we
want
to
capture
on
that
application,
as
well
as
what
would
be
the
budgetary
impacts
of
creating
and
implementing
a
registry
program,
and
then
further
we've
done
some,
particularly
in
the
last
the
last
little,
while
we've
done
some
community
and
neighborhood
outreach,
specifically
around
conversations
around
a
rental
registry
program.
I
Becca
has
had
conversations
with
neighborhood
presidents
and
neighborhood
leaders
about
that
concept
and
how
we
might
deploy
it
in
the
city.
So
as
of
right
now,
the
pilot
is
looking
to
do
to
start
with
just
one
neighborhood.
We
need
to
really
get
the
kinks
out
of
whatever
process
we
move
forward
with.
I
We
had
two
candidates,
the
east
side
and
the
west
side,
they're
the
two
smallest
of
the
the
neighborhoods
that
we've
been
able
to
identify
what
the
the
rental
unit
impact
in
is
on
those,
and
so
we
had
those
both
those
neighborhoods
as
candidates.
When
we
look
at
calls
for
service,
we
did
see
that
the
east
side
did
have
a
slightly
higher
calls
for
service
than
the
west
side.
I
A
A
My
district,
the
palms
department,
would
be
part
of
that,
so
people
have
an
idea.
What
we're
talking
about
we're,
not
talking
about
41,
duplexes
or
single
family
residences,
we're
talking
about
apartments
from
that
have
100
units
to
200
units
or
what
to
whatever
number
we're
talking
about
as
well.
I'm
going.
I
To
look
at,
I
believe,
it's
the
property,
not
necessarily
the
the
individual
units.
This
is
properties
right,
so
we're
talking
41
000
properties
that
are
our
rental
properties,
so
in
the
instance
of
an
apartment
building
you
know
it's
that
apartment
complex,
that's
included
here,
not
necessarily
the
100
units
within
that
apartment,
so
so
to.
B
And
mr
chairman,
if
I
may
add,
I
believe
our
focus
is
not
on
the
large
apartment
complexes
because
they
normally
post
who
their
management
company
is,
and
we
normally
have
a
contact.
What
we're
really
seeking
is
those
properties
might
be
a
one-off
two-off
property
owner
an
llc
everybody
puts
their
property
in
an
llc
you're,
having
trouble
with
tenants
at
the
property
and
there's
a
llc
in
michigan.
You
don't
know
who
to
call
for
responsibility.
A
And
I
think
absolutely
at
that
point
that
also
reflects.
I
know
that
one
of
the
earliest
issues
that
we
had
dealing
with
short-term
rentals
were
that
they
were
folks
who
were
absentee
short-term
rental
owners
as
well,
so
that
I
don't
know
how
that
plays
into
your
your
statistics.
But
that
was
one
of
the
early
problems
we
had
back
several
years
ago.
Were
people
who
were
using
the
short-term
rentals
as
a
party
venue
right
location,
particularly
downtown,
so.
H
H
But
I'll
just
say
this
in
order
to
identify
who
needs
to
be
on
any
registry
that
we
do
it's
going
to
be
a
task
in
and
of
itself,
because
if
you're,
a
small
renter
of
properties,
meaning
you
don't
have
a
large
number
of
properties,
we
don't
require
you,
among
other
things,
to
get
a
business
license
and
and
and
today,
as
opposed
to
10
years
ago.
We
first
doing
this.
Renting
properties
is
big
business.
H
I
mean
if
you
have
one
or
two
properties:
you're
not
out
there
with
a
business
license,
but
you
are
generating
a
huge
amount
of
revenues,
and
so,
as
we
go
through
this
process,
I
think
we
need
to
really
think
about
what
we're
really
trying
to
do
here.
One
is
I
get
it
we're
trying
to
identify
people
who
own
it,
so
we
can
have
some
accountability,
but
what
does
that
accountability?
Look
like
day
in
and
day
out,
I
think
one
of
the
things
is
is
sharing
fairly
like
everybody
else,
who's
in
business.
H
Here
with
having
to
have
a
business
license.
I
mean
people
are
renting
out
houses
for
four
five
six,
seven
thousand
dollars
a
month
and
required
to
have
no
business
license
at
all.
That's
the
equivalent
of
a
lot
of
small
businesses
in
many
parts
of
the
city.
So
I
applaud
this.
I'm
also
not
sure
why,
mr
mayor,
we
need
to
do
this
as
a
pilot
program.
I
mean
we've
been
looking
at
this
for
a
long
time.
H
I
think
we
should
put
this
in
place
and
institute
it
and
if
we
have
to
phase
it
in
because
we
have
staffing
issues,
that's
fine,
but
I
I
think
once
you
put
it
in
place
in
one
part
of
the
city,
I
know
in
particular
some
of
the
areas
that
I
represent
they're
going
to
want,
want
it
almost
immediately,
if
not
immediately,
because
of
the
the
long-term
over
decade,
efforts
to
have
something
like
this
in
place,
so
I
applaud
it.
I
would
just
I
would
love
to
see
us
put
some
resource
to
it
towards
it.
A
B
I
We
will
expect
in
for
at
the
july
cd
committee
to
present
the
the
pilot
details,
or
maybe
it's
not
a
pilot
based
on
the
comments
that
we
heard
here.
Maybe
we
look
to
just
implement
phase
one
period.
Excuse
me
and
present
that
draft
ordinance
again
at
cd
committee
in
july
and
then
based
on
what
we
hear
from
that,
we
would
anticipate
that
in
august
we
would
begin
to
develop
and
roll
out
the
website
and
other
material
that
we
expect
needs
to
be
out
there.
I
So
community
members
have
a
lot
of
information
and
education
about
what
the
program
is,
how
to
be
compliant
with
the
program
and
what
properties
are
in
that
phase
one.
This
fall.
We
expect
to
work
with
between
planning
and
livability
on
budget
requests
for
supporting
the
pilot
phase
or
again
just
start
the
rollout
of
the
registry
program.
Additionally,
we
would
expect
council
with
the
support
that
the
public
safety
committee
has
stated
today.
A
Well,
just
to
echo
what
the
council
was
seeking
said.
I
know
this
has
been
something
the
city's
been
working
on
for
quite
some
time,
and
it
may
be.
A
distinction
may
have
made
a
comment
about
how
many
units,
but
there's
a
difference
between
a
property
owner
who
has
a
residential
unit
that
they
they
rent
out.
A
They
may
have
owned
the
house
and
inside
the
house,
got
too
small
for
them
or
they've
been
transferred
for
a
short
period
of
time,
and
they
want
to
rent
the
house
out
and
make
sure
it's
being
taken
care
of
that's
a
different
scenario
than
the
scenario
dealing
with
folks
who
create
a
a
legal
entity
like
an
llc
and
they
they're
running
the
house
out
for
a
pro
a
for-profit
measure.
It's
a
business
to
them
and
regardless
of
how
many
units
they
may
have,
or
how
many
units
that
that
property
may
have.
A
There
is
a
huge
difference
in
in.
In
that
I
certainly
had
a
townhouse
that
I
lived
in.
We
outgrew
it
and
we
rented
it
out.
It
was
just
a
it
was
a
you
know,
month,
a
year-to-year
type
thing
with
college
students,
but
looking
back
on
that,
when
I
do
rent
out
property
as
an
llc,
I
put
myself
into
a
different
category,
I'm
turning
myself
into
a
business
as
opposed
to
I'm
just
trying
to
hold
on
to
a
piece
of
property
that
I
had
it
used
to
be
my
home.
So
there's
a
distinction
with
that.
A
A
six-month
rental
is
another
category,
and
a
building
that's
just
purchased
for
the
sake
of
raising
money
would
fit
into
another
category
as
well.
Then
the
other
things
I
know
we've
got
landlord
tenant
issue
rights
done
by
statute,
and
I
know
we've
got
code
issues
as
as
well
that
certain
buildings
have
got
to
reach
a
code.
A
But
this
is
an
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
basic
things
are
taken.
Care
of.
There
are
a
fire
escape
for
that
property
that
they've
got
a
minimal
amount
of
fire
represents
in
that
that
building
as
well,
so
it
may
transcend
beyond
just
a
nuisance
and
a
problem
when
someone's
misbehaving
in
that
unit
to
a
safety
issue.
Overall,
those
are
just
some
thoughts,
I'm
having
listening
to
this
discussion
that
maybe
we
ought
to
look
at
as
to
how
we
regulate
this.
A
But
I
would
just
ask
you
to
sort
of
look
at
this
one,
even
a
little
bit
expanding
it
out
a
little
bit
broader
to
just
beyond
making
sure
we
got
somebody
registered
making
sure
that
if
there
is
a
truly
a
business
that
they're
held
accountable
from
a
top
to
bottom
business
level,
to
just
we
know
who
they
are
and
where
to
locate
them.
If
a
problem,
pops
up.
H
H
I
I
think
you
got
some
we're
going
to
have
some
real
legal
problems
with
forced
addictions
where
we
have
our
hooks,
as,
as
you
know,
is
through
zoning
and
through
our
business
licensing,
and
so
I
really
think
we're
gonna
at
some
point
have
to
think
about
tying
this
into
business
licensing.
So
if
we
have
a
continuing
problem,
we've
got
a
real
way
to
attack
that
problem
and
not
by
bringing
an
action
that
may
or
may
not
be
constitutionally
infirm
to
have
forced
evictions.
H
We
can
do
it
through
the
business
licensing
pro
process
and-
and
you
know,
look
today's
day
and
age
in
charleston.
It's
not
10
years
ago.
Properties
single
properties
are
running
out
for
huge
amounts
of
money.
The
house
across
the
street,
for
me,
is
one
single
family
house
with
three
units
in
it,
and
I
can
assure
you
they
are
doing
business
over
there
I
mean
they're
doing
more
business
than
some
retailers
are
doing
in
west
ashley
and
they're,
paying
exactly
zero
dollars
and
zero
cents
business
license
fees.
H
H
I
just
think
that
we
have
to
really
think
about
in
the
end,
in
terms
of
the
goal
that
we
have
in
mind,
which
is
being
able
to
a
identify
people
who
are
owning
property.
So
we
can
have
a
conversation
with
them
if
the
need
occur
arises,
but
also
what
hooks
will
have
when
we
can
identify
a
problem,
and
I
just
think
a
simple
registry
is
not
going
to
give
us
the
hook
that
we
need
so
look
forward
to
seeing
what
this
ordinance
looks
like
and
certainly
support
the
effort.
H
A
B
Very
cool,
so
this
is
the
chairman
and
councilmember
seeking
that
that
is
exactly
what
staff
is
trying
to
do
be
very
thoughtful
about
this
and,
to
be
honest
with
you,
the
the
permit,
there
would
actually
be
a
permit
issue
to
to
rent
the
one
house,
and
so
it
acts
almost
like
a
business
license.
And
if,
if
you
have
a
certain
level
of
violation,
then
the
permit
could
be
revoked
which
would
disallow
you
from
even
renting
the
one
house.
B
So
when
we
get
the
full
ordinance
before
you
hopefully
shortly
I'd
like
to
in
advance
of
the
next
july
meeting,
so
y'all
can
have
a
chance
to
look
at
it
in
more
detail
and
and
make
any
comments
or
suggestions
you
that
you
like,
but
it
is
moving
along
in
exactly
the
direction
that
you're
proposing
and
they
they
have
been
pretty
thoughtful
about
that
there
there
are.
Can
some
considerations
about
bringing
the
business
license
all
the
way
down
to
to
one
and
there's
some
benefits
to
to
doing
this?
B
Permit
system,
with
the
point
system
that
I
mentioned,
that
you
don't
get
with
with
the
business
license
so
anyway,
we
we
they've
been
very
thoughtful
about
it.
When
you
all
see
the
details,
I'm
sure
there'll
be
more
good
recommendations,
but
we
we
we
are
trying
to
have
that
net
result
that
that
you
described
and
and
by
the
way
on
the
on
the
rollout
I
I
certainly
hope
we
can
do
the
pilot
this
year.
This
fall,
as
mr
summerfield
mentioned.
B
The
the
capacity
that
we
have
to
take
on
41,
000
potential
registrations
from
scratch
is
is,
is
large
is
voluminous,
so
so
we
really
believe
we
can
do
it
just
get
it
going
through
the
end
of
the
year
and
then
put
the
budget
in
request,
because
it
will
take
a
little
staff
to
to
do
this.
Of
course,
the
permit
fee
will
help
pay
for
that
staff.
B
A
A
Before
we
adjourn,
we
are
trying
to
set
a
date
for
the
dedication
of
the
richard
fields.
Courtroom
we've
got
the
plaque.
I've
heard
about
from
the
charleston
county
bar
association.
They'll
help
sponsor
a
reception
following
so
we'll
just
have
to
coordinate
a
date
with
your
office
mayor
with
the
court
staff
and,
of
course
our
honorary
judge
feels,
but
hopefully
we
can
do
that
in
some
time.
In
the
month
of
july
we
can.
We
can
do
that.