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City of Charleston Committee on Public Works and Utilities 2/8/2021
A
I'm
always
happy
to
do
that:
councilman
we're
wearing.
So
let's
have
your
attention
for
a
few
seconds.
We
gather
this
afternoon
to
look
for
the
betterment
of
our
citizens
for
the
betterment
of
our
community
for
the
veteran
of
our
state
and
country.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
We've
got
the
minutes
for
approval
for
the
october
12
and
26
meetings.
26
meetings
is
there
motion.
A
B
C
Yes,
sir,
mr
chairman,
we
want
to
take
a
few
minutes
here.
Matt
altop,
our
superintendent
for
environmental
services,
is
going
to
give
you
guys
and
ladies
a
brief
presentation.
B
Why
don't
we
do
this,
mr
mcqueeny?
Why
don't
we
take
a
motion
to
go
in
executive
station
I'll.
E
B
E
E
Could
I
suggest
we
just
defer
this
presentation
to
a
future
meeting
and
let
matt
and
tom
and
legal
just
think
a
little
more
about
what
gets
included
and
what
doesn't,
because
it's
it's
really
if
they
take
care
of
those
privacy
issues.
It's
certainly
something
I'd
love
for
the
public.
I
agree.
D
B
C
We'll
put
it
in
a
form
where
we
won't
hurt
anybody
and
make
sure
we
do
that
for
y'all.
The
next
time.
D
More
than
anything,
mr
chairman,
I
just
don't
want
anybody
to
get
the
wrong
perception.
Anybody
can
look
at
our
zoom
call
and
and
not
understand
what
we're
talking
about
and
say.
Well,
this
person's
got
98
percent
done,
and
this
person's
got
this
or
this
person
reached
this
speed
and
this
person
didn't-
and
I
just
don't
want
there
to
be
a
perception-
then.
B
Thought
well
all
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say
aye
the
first
I
I
indian
pools.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
autop,
and
and
mr
o'brien
on
that,
one
that
I
guess
it
has
some
good
stuff.
I
look
forward
to
you
coming
back.
B
No,
I
don't
think
so
so,
mr
brian,
any
anything
on
temporary
encroachments
that.
B
D
F
B
Thank
you
any
any
more
discussion
on
that
motion.
Hearing
that
all
in
favor,
please
say
hi
all
right,
indian
pool.
Thank
you.
Stormwater
update
mr
phelp
update.
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
we
have
a
number
of
updates.
I
guess
is
starting
to
be
usual
this
this
month,
which
is
good
a
lot,
a
lot
of
construction
work
going
on
in
the
area,
so
I'm
gonna
try
to
juggle
bouncing
between
about
four
different
screens
as
we
as
we
do
this
and
hopefully
that'll
add
some
interest
to
the
the
updates.
Okay.
So
let's
see
I'm
going
to
start
us
with
the
spring
fishburn
project.
F
Project
update,
which
is
going
to
show
a
different
project
because
that's
the
end
of
the
presentation:
okay,
so
here's
our
a
little
bit
of
updated
project
work
actually
before
I
jump
into
spring
first
branch.
I
want
to
give
you
a
quick
update
on
where
we
are
with
some
of
the
kind
of
the
less
glamorous
projects,
the
the
more
the
rehabilitation
side,
so
our
infrastructure
rehabilitation
work
we've
been
working
through
our
we
talked
about
this
number
of
times
at
committee.
F
I
think
it's
always
worth
kind
of
giving
an
update
on
where
we
stand
with
it.
A
roadside
open,
ditch
system
rehabilitation-
and
this
is
where
we're
going
back
and
actually
going
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
and
base,
basically
digging
out
to
the
ditches
back
to
their
original
design
grade
blowing
out
all
the
driveway
culverts
fixing
any
buried
pipe
sections
where
people
have
piped
in
their
front
yards
under
encroachment
permits
right
away,
permits
basically
kind
of
restoring
the
neighborhoods
drainage
to
the
the
best
that
it
can
be
based
on
the
original
designs.
These
aren't
the
enhancement
projects.
F
Yet
these
are
just
the
restoration
projects.
We
do
all
this
work
for
the
open,
ditch
systems
with
our
in-house
forces.
We've
got
114
road
miles,
typically,
there's
a
system
on
either
side
of
the
road,
so
it
ends
up
being
228
actual
ditch
miles,
but
about
114
road
miles.
To
date,
we've
we've
gotten
through
40
road
miles.
That's
a
little
bit
less
than
two
years.
We've
actually
accelerated
our
pace,
a
little
to
where
we
are
working
at
about
20
road
miles
per
year.
F
F
How
much
sediment
has
accumulated
how
much
open
ditch
versus
pipe
system
there
is,
but
that's
that
program
showing
real
progress,
we're
making.
I
think
significant
improvements,
we've
put
together
a
better
notification
system
where
we
give
residents
information
about
it,
it's
not
perfect
and
that
we're
still
working
in
what
people
kind
of
feel
like
is
their
front
yard.
F
Sometimes,
even
though
it
is
within
the
public
right-of-way.
But
I
think
the
the
combination
of
notification
and
seeing
the
whole
neighborhood
being
reworked
has
has
led
to
far
more
positive
comments
than
negative
comments.
So
it's
a
it's
a
good
place
that
we're
getting
to
the
closed
systems
is
sort
of
our.
A
Yeah,
just
I
just
wanted
to
comment
about,
but
matt's
last
comment
was,
and
so
we've
been
going
around
apparently
through
the
neighborhoods
and
it's
created
a
little
bit
of
a
stir,
quite
frankly,
matt
and
I
may
be
calling
on
you
for
some
remedial
work.
We
need
to
be
doing
on
some
of
these
neighborhoods,
but
I'm
glad
that
we're
doing
this
work.
I
mean
this
really
is
important
work
which
which
we've
been
doing,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have.
Maybe
some
constituent
outreach
a
little
bit
more
detail.
A
F
You
I'm
happy
to,
and
we
do
generally,
each
neighborhood
generally
has
on
the
order
of
one
or
two
residents
out
of
any.
You
know
50
to
100
residents
who
are
kind
of
unhappy
because
their
their
particular
property
doesn't
flood
and
they
see
the
damage
to
the
the
front,
ditch
system
until
the
grass
revegetates.
There
is
some
frustration
I
think
we've
been
trying
to
tell
people
it's
a
really
good
place
when
you
feel
like
your
city,
is
doing
too
much
drainage
maintenance,
rather
than
not
enough
drainage
maintenance,
which
is
our
typical
complaint.
F
F
So
it's
it's
something
that
I
think
we're
a
little
less
invasive,
maybe
than
d.o.t
tends
to
be,
but
it's
still
a
pretty
significant
change
when
you
come
you'll
leave
for
work
in
the
morning
and
come
home
in
the
evening
and
see
the
difference,
but
we're
certainly
happy
to
reach
out
and
talk
to
any
residents
about
it.
B
F
So
systems
that
have
have
completely
failed,
where
we've
seen
you
know
pipe
separations
or
collapse,
it's
blocking
the
water
we'll
remove
those
sections
of
the
system
and
restore
it
to
open.
Ditch.
We
haven't
seen
as
much
of
that
or
if,
if
they're
on,
when
there
are
properties
like
that,
typically
those
are
the
properties
that
are
flooding
badly,
because
the
underground
system
is
actually
causing
the
water
to
basically
come
up
out
of
the
ditch
and
into
their
yard.
F
So
we
haven't
had
as
much
complaint
with
those
as
we
have
with
sort
of
the
higher
points
of
the
neighborhood,
where
people
generally
don't
have
a
lot
of
water
or
the
property
upstream
of
them
has
enough
damage.
That's
blocking
the
water
from
their
property.
Those
are
sort
of
the
major
complaints
we
have
or
the
you
know
the
few
people
in
each
neighborhood
who
don't
have
any
drainage
issues,
but
still
have
to
have
their
ditch,
reworked
to
make
the
overall
neighborhood
work.
B
F
Yeah,
the
other,
the
counterpoint
to
the
open,
ditch
or
the
the
closed
system,
so
these
are
somewhat
ironically,
both
the
the
newest
neighborhoods
and
the
oldest
neighborhoods
in
the
city
generally
with
the
peninsula
and
then
many
of
the
newer
subdivisions.
This
is
the
pipe
systems
in
the
peninsula.
F
F
We
have
a
little
over
400
road
miles
of
a
pipe
system,
we're
estimating
from
a
series
of
different
project,
work
that
we've
done
with
drainage
assessments
that
we
have
about
100
miles
that
need
heavy
inspection
and
within
those
we
think
a
portion
of
those
somewhere
around
30
or
40
miles
probably
needs
significant
cleaning.
F
That
position
is
getting
started
now
going
through
and
trying
to
allocate
priority
priorities
for
pipe
cleaning,
and
we
do
estimate
getting
through
our
targeted
pipe
cleaning
work
by
2028.
So
that's
not
the
entire
system.
This
time,
it's
really
targeting
it
at
the
major
blockage
areas
within
the
peninsula
and
within
the
newer
subdivisions
again,
and
that
really
is
just
getting
started
in
large
part.
F
The
other
kind
of
the
third,
the
third
tripod,
I
guess,
of
our
our
ditch
and
pipe
conveyance
system-
are
the
rear
and
side
yard
system.
So
these
are
the
ones
that
are
hand,
cleaned
generally
they're,
the
ditches
that
run
along
the
side
of
the
home
or
behind
the
homes
and
much
of
west
ashley
or
james
island,
especially
these
are
again
in-house
forces,
typically
working
with
weed
eaters.
F
So
we
did
work
to
obtain
a
walking
excavator,
which
is
sort
of
a
smaller,
more
flexible
piece
of
equipment
that
can
get
into
some
of
these
stitches.
That'll
that'll
come
in,
hopefully
in
april
april,
to
may
this
year
and
be
able
to
clean
out
some
of
the
areas
where
we're
still
having
some
challenges,
but
it's
again
much
better
than
it
used
to
be
we've
rehabilitated.
All
these
we're
currently
cutting
all
of
them
once
per
year.
Doing
a
veg
heavy
vegetative
cutback
once
per
year.
F
We're
looking
to
get
to
with
the
walking
excavator
over
the
next
couple
of
years,
get
to
being
able
to
get
every
ditch
maintained
twice
per
year
would
be
our
goal
so
too
heavy
vegetative
cutbacks
through
the
growing
seasons.
Basically.
F
That's
sort
of
this
long,
skinny
section
you
see
on
the
left
picture
that,
where
the
eventual
box
culverts
will
lay
to
bring
the
water
out
into
the
river
we've
completed,
our
all
our
excavation
installed
the
foundation,
and
then
you
can
see
kind
of
the
small
brown
squares
at
the
bottom
of
those
rock
are
actually
h-piles,
which
are
basically
look
like
giant
I-beams
being
driven
into
the
ground
to
support
the
eventual
box
culverts.
Those
are
about
50
percent,
complete
on
the
right.
You
see
the
wet.
F
Well,
that's
the
very
large
hole
in
the
ground,
basically,
where
the
pumps
will
eventually
sit
to
pump
out
the
water
from
the
project,
and
you
need
a
you
need
a
large
container
like
that
for
cycle
times
on
your
pumps,
your
pumps
don't
burn
out
from
cycling
on
and
off
during
different
storm
events.
F
We've
we've
completed
most
of
the
excavation
the
wet
wall,
though
there
is
still
some
excavation
continuing
we're
starting
to
lay
in
the
rock
foundation
as
sections
of
the
wet
well
are
completed,
and
then
you
see
those
pieces
of
circular
rebar
sticking
up
in
the
in
the
wet
well,
those
are
basically
the
the
existing
pipe
piles
that
have
been
excavated,
concreted
and
now
rebar
tied
to
eventually
tie
into
the
slab
that
we're
preparing
now
for
the
the
pour
of
a
basically
a
base
foundation
for
that
wet.
Well,
so
again,
significant
contraction
progress
there.
F
F
F
You're
just
trying
to
test
my
my
zoom
capabilities
now,
yeah.
A
I
I
yeah
I
am,
I
am
stretching
a
little
bit
here,
so
just
just,
if
you
don't
mind,
can
you
just
go
back
to
this
a
little
bit
slower?
The
the
the
parallel
construction
looks
like
going
on
is
one
just
the
the
oh.
F
Sure
yeah,
so
so
this
this
is
what
we
call
the
outfall
section.
If
you
can
see,
if
you
can
see
my
cursor
or
not,
but
right
yeah
moving
through
this
is
where
we're
digging
out
to
put
the
eventual
box
culvert.
So
there's
three
like
10
foot
by
12
foot,
wide
box
culverts
that
will
come
in
here
and
act
as
pipes
to
convey
the
water
out
into
the
river
this
platform.
Next
to
it
is
actually
a
temporary
trestle
built
in
the
marsh
for
the
cranes
to
operate
on
to
do
the
work.
F
It's
about
a
million
pounds
of
steel
sitting
in
the
river
to
be
able
to
do
the
work
to
install
the
outfall
here.
The
picture
to
the
right
is
actually
a
close-up
of
what
is
back
here
between
the
two
bridges,
where
all
the
cranes
are
sitting
right.
That's
the
that's
the
wet
well,
which
is
where
the
the
deep
tunnel
comes
up
to
the
surface,
then
there's,
basically
a
very,
very
large
hole
excavated
there
for
that
water
to
come
up
into
eventually
that
will
all
be
concreted
and
encased
and
the
pumps
will
sit
inside
that.
F
Well
and
basically,
you
you!
Let
water
flow
in
there.
You
turn
the
pumps
on
the
pumps,
pull
down
the
water
level
towards
near
the
bottom
of
the
the
concrete
structure
the
pumps
turn
off.
They
have
a
chance
to
cool
down.
While
the
water
fills
back
up,
the
pumps
turn
back
on
again
and
one
of
the
things
of
pump
design.
Is
you
can't
you
can't
have
pumps
turn
on
and
off
quickly.
It's
called
cycle
time.
They'll
burn
out,
they'll,
basically
fry
themselves,
from
not
having
cooling
during
the
consistent
run.
So
for
a
big
storm
event.
F
It
doesn't
matter
that
much
your
pumps
can
turn
on
just
keep
running.
They
cool
themselves
very
well,
if
they're
running,
but
during
a
very
small
storm
event,
you
need
where
the
water
isn't
coming
into
the
well
fast
enough
for
the
pump
to
be
running
all
the
time.
You
need
a
very
large
container,
basically
to
let
the
pump
pump
down
that
water
with
a
long
enough
amount
of
time
that
it
doesn't
burn
itself
up.
F
It's
all
it's
all
automatic,
it's
all
on.
It's
all
on
a
scada
system
where
it's
basically
computer,
controlled
off
of
different
level.
Sensors.
There
are,
there
always
are
manual
backups
in
case
something
goes
wrong,
but
it's
all
computer
controlled.
F
Yes,
yeah,
so
that's
phase
five
of
the
project
that
we've
talked
about.
We've
got
the
contract
in
place
right
now
to
update
the
design
of
phase
five
phase.
Five
is
the
pumps
themselves,
the
the
primary
pumps,
the
dewatering
pumps,
actually
go
in
in
phase
four,
but
the
main
primary
pumps,
the
pump
station
that
will
sit
above
ground
between
the
two
bridges,
which
will
look
like
a
mid-sized
building,
control
room
diesel
generators
to
run
the
pumps
kind
of
a
whole
system
to
operate
that
eventual
outfall.
A
I
gotta
tell
you:
this
is
just
really
fascinating
to
see
how
all
this
is
gonna
work
and
the
amount
of
of
construction
and
design.
This
is
really
entailing,
and
that's.
A
Of
the
money
details
of
that
matters,
I
I
just
think
this
is
going
to
have
such
a
huge
impact
on
on
the
peninsula
once
we
complete,
even
just
this
particular
phase
of
the
work
and
then
when
you
like,
it
looks
like
something
out
of
the
future
to
some
degree
when
we
get
to
full
completion
with
the
full
project
completed
before
phase
five.
So
thanks
for
spending
some
time
on
that
with
us
and
explain
that
a
little
bit
more
in
more
detail,
that's
really
quite
interesting
work.
We're
doing
here.
F
Yeah,
absolutely
I'm
going
to
show
you
briefly
the
website,
because
I
agree
it
gets
it's.
It's
confusing
it's
hard
to
understand.
What's
going
on
between
the
river,
we
actually
get
a
lot
of
questions
if
we're
building
the
west
ashley
bike
head
bridge
because
of
the
causeway
that
extends
out
so
for
the
cranes
to
operate
on.
But
so
this
is.
This
is
our
our
kind
of
updated
spring
fishburn
website
we've
been
trying
to
go
through
and
start
updating.
F
Our
all
of
our
project
website
work,
so
it
includes
kind
of
walking
you
through
all
the
different
phases.
You
can
see
this.
This
kind
of
slightly
subdued
highlighting
is
the
area
of
the
peninsula
that
is
actually
improved
for
drainage
by
the
project.
So
it's
a
huge
chunk
of
the
the
flooding
areas
in
the
peninsula.
F
F
It
has
the
years
of
when
it
was
built,
phase
four,
which
of
course,
we're
building
now,
which
is
the
wet
well
coming
in
and
being
constructed
in
the
outfall
and
then
phase
five
which
we're
just
discussing
is
when
you'll
see
eventually
the
the
pump
station
superstructure
and
the
pumps
go
in,
and
we
have
that
kind
of
work
through
the
information
there.
F
It
kind
of
has
some
quick
facts
about
how
the
project
works
and,
as
you
were,
asking
councilman
shade,
like
how
much
improvement
is
there
at
low
tide
versus
high
tide
in
the
different
phases?
Some
kind
of
nice
background
pictures
of
what
the
deep
tunnels
look
like
and
how
they
work.
Some
of
the
costs.
F
You
know
how
much
money
was
going
into
local
businesses
and
things
during
the
construction
and
then
at
the
bottom,
which
is
kind
of
the
fun
part
for
the
engineers
at
least,
is
all
the
pictures
of
all
the
cool
stuff
that
was
built
during
the
project.
We
have
some
project
videos,
you
know
showing
different
components:
drone
shots,
there's
kind
of
a
whole
extensive
gallery.
F
You
can
get
into
and
really
sort
of
see
the
history
of
the
project,
because
it
is
it's
all
below
almost
all
of
it
is
below
ground
other
than
the
traffic
disruptions
from
the
first
couple
phases
on
us
17
and
some
of
the
beautification
elements.
So
it's
easy
to
not
necessarily
know
what's
been
happening
for
the
last
five
or
six
years
realistically
of
heavy
construction
work.
F
So
low
battery
phase
one
this
project
phase,
one
is
now
substantially
complete.
We've
hit
that
contract
milestone
with
the
contractor.
These
are
pictures
from
over
the
weekend
or
late
last
week.
Basically,
the
s
is
a
little
bit
earlier
than
that.
This
is
this
is
the
final
paving
of
the
speed
table
going
in
which
is
sort
of
the
traffic
control
feature
for
bike
pad
safety
in
the
middle
of
the
inner,
the
intersection.
F
Here
you
can
see
the
new
wall,
the
new
veil
wall,
the
rip-rap,
the
all
the
new
asphalt
new
landscaping
and
then
the
top
corner
is
kind
of
a
detail
of
the
the
curve
of
the
wall
here
which
one
of
the
more
complex
elements
little
pocket
park,
both
at
the
curve
and
then
there's
another
pocket
park
at
the
speed
table
here
with
bench
bench
seating
and
some
other
information
there.
F
Phase
two
will
be
getting
underway
with
a
little
bit
of
setup
this
week
and
then
more
major
traffic
control
movements
and
things
next
week.
You
can
see
some
of
the
historic
pictures
and
updates
from
the
project
here.
There's
some
really
neat
things
like
there's
a
brief
time
lapse.
F
Video,
let's
see
if
we
can
get
to
work,
I'm
not
responsible
for
the
music
choices
on
the
time-lapse
video,
but
you
can
see
I'm
going
to
accelerate
this
because
even
on
time
lapse,
it's
a
long,
complicated
project,
but
you
can
see
that
the
kind
of
watch
the
project
occur
and
see
all
the
major
work
that
went
on
and
kind
of
get
a
sense.
Because
again,
it's
a
project
that
you
see
the
beginning
and
you
see
the
end
and
it
sometimes
is
hard
to
find
all
of
what
occurred
during
the
project.
F
F
You'll
see
now
they're
removing
the
old
wall
reinstalling
the
new
wall
and
platform
coming
in
with
the
pedestrian
platform
building
back
as
they
come
around
the
curve
again,
which
is
a
really
complex
piece
of
concrete
work
there
coming
around
the
curve,
and
this
this
only
takes
us
up
as
they
come
back,
install
railing
and
kind
of
the
surface
components
of
all
that
until
where
you
can
see
the
drainage
pipe
being
lined
up
for
all
the
new
drainage
installation
that
occurred
on
that
project
and
we're
going
to
update
that
now
to
take
us
through
the
rest
of
the
project
with
that
drainage,
that
drainage
installation,
as
well
as
paving
and
surface
restoration
work.
F
D
Yes,
sir,
hey
you
know
what
I
was
thinking.
Matt
is
why
you
were
going
through
all
this
stuff,
and
this
is
really
really
great
stuff.
I
feel
like
sometimes
when
we
get
to
our
council
meetings
and
we've
got
so
much
stuff
going
on
and
we
get
to
to
this
part
of
it.
It's
so
important,
but
it
seems
like
we're
always
dog
tired
by
the
time
we
get
to
it.
D
Because
I
feel
like
these,
these
slideshows
that
you're
doing
are
so
important,
but
by
the
time
we
get
to
council
and
we
try
to
run
through
them,
everybody's
you
know,
brains,
hurting
and-
and
I
just
don't
see
it
feel
like
we
ever
really.
We
haven't
done
a
workshop
for
for
these
projects
and
in
a
little
while
you
know
maybe
it'd
be
worth
doing
that.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
interested
in
that.
But
I
think
I.
B
Think
I
think
that
certainly
has
merit,
but
let
me
why
don't
we
maybe
take
it
a
step
further
on
something
like
this,
mr
mayor,
if
you
will
can
that
be,
I
guess
put
up
on
the
agenda
justice
in
this
case
this
one
item
and
then
maybe
next
month
you
do
the
you
know
the
wet
well
presentation
that
you
did
with
the
with
spring
fishburn,
but.
B
The
battery
battery
now
being
completed,
you
know,
right
after
you
open
up
the
meeting
and
does
and
recognize
anybody
with
a
resolution,
or
something
like
that.
B
Can
we
find
a
spot
you
and
the
clerk
to
put
a
presentation
like
this
for
mr
fountain
to
make
a
presentation
on
with
powerpoint,
and
then
we
can
report
the
remainder
of
public
works
later
on
down
on
the
agenda
where
it
normally
is,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
every
meeting
that
we're
going
to
have
a
project
like
this
this
you
know
we
cut
the
ribbon
on
so
to
speak
and
now
moving
on
to
phase
two,
but
I
think
it'd
be
great
for
the
public
to
see
that
I
mean
we
just
saw
this
now
I
mean
a
little.
B
I
don't
know
three
minute
presentation
on
that.
What
do
you
think,
mr
man.
E
Well,
I
I
think
that's
a
good
idea,
particularly
with
the
projects
like
these
two
we've
just
covered,
that
are
multi-year
projects
and
and
even
with
the
low
battery
sea
wall.
E
For
five
more
years,
you
know
before
we
get
it
all
done
and
to
keep
people
updated,
that
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
E
I
I
do
think
that
you
know
part
of
what
councilmember
griffin
is
requesting,
though,
is
what
we're
doing
right
here
in
this
committee
is,
is,
is
you
know,
take
a
piece
of
the
city
at
a
time
like
we're
doing
this
afternoon
this
evening,
to
talk
about
the
peninsula
and
and
go
into
some
detail
these
these
meetings,
these
committee
meetings
are
recorded,
so
they
could
be
replayed,
but
anyway
I
I
like
the
idea
of
highlighting
a
project
every
now
and
again
and
putting
it
up
front.
E
I
I,
I
think,
that's
a
good
idea.
I
think.
B
B
We've
got
that
many
I'm
going
on
well
for
this
meeting,
which
is
tomorrow,
this
would
be
reported
out
technically
on
the
public
works
committee
report,
but
this
particular
slice.
I
don't
know
what
we
have
to
do
to
move
it
up
for
a
special
presentation
like
that,
mr
murphy.
We
have
to
take
a
vote
of
council
or
something,
but
if
mr
fountain
is
prepared,
he
can
do
it
and
then
again
do
the
remainder
of
the
report.
F
Right
and
one
option,
mr
chairman,
if
you
don't
mind,
is,
is
maybe
for
next
council
meeting
that
would
give
us
a
chance
to
kind
of
polish
it
up
a
little
bit
if
we
want
to
do
it
as
a
sort
of
tight
abbreviated
meeting.
B
E
B
Yeah
so
mr
fountain
continue.
F
Yeah,
thank
you.
Sherman.
The
other
ones
will
be
a
little
bit
quicker.
Those
are
kind
of
two
very
large
projects,
one
of
which
is
kind
of
wrapping
up.
So
I
wanted
to
spend
a
little
more
time
on
those
but
phase
phase.
Two
of
the
little
battery.
I
briefly
mentioned.
We
did
issue
the
notice
proceed
contractors
working
to
modify
their
traffic
control,
the
shift
into
phase
two,
it's
the
it
happens
to
be
the
same
contractor
for
phase
one
and
phase
two,
which
should
make
that
turnover
much
easier
again.
We've
we've
provided
notice.
F
The
community
and
the
adjacent
residents
be
basically
getting
straight
into
major
work
on
that
project
shortly.
King
and
yugi
phase
one
so
that
project
has
also
been
awarded.
F
King
yugi
phase
two
we're
continuing
on
the
design
and
permitting
work
for
that
pump
station
and
outfall
the
forest
acres
project
att
is
continuing
their
utility
relocation
work.
F
The
city
is
working
through
finalizing
our
last
few
drainage,
easement
acquisitions
on
the
project
which
will
be
coming
to
real
estate
over
the
next
couple
months,
then
we'll
be
basically
we'll
start
building
the
drainage
improvement
component
of
the
project
with
the
city
contractor
following
the
end
of
att's
utility
relocations
around
the
end
of
2021,
the
market
street
project
we've
been
working
back
and
forth
with
dominion
to
try
to
coordinate
some
options
for
underground
in
power
on
that
project
that
the
timeline
is
a
little
bit
uncertain.
F
On
that
one
I
mean
that
our
streetscaping
streetscaping
component
of
that
project
obviously
is
funded
out
of
hospitality,
accommodations
tax
work
and
that
that
fund
is
a
little
more
uncertain
right
now,
so
we
don't
have
a
hard
start
date
on
that,
but
that
does
does
give
us
a
lot
of
time
to
work
through
any
issues
with
with
dominion
on
the
undergrounding,
the
cooper-jackson
drainage
improvements.
This
is
the
the
east
side
area.
F
We've
we've
completed
our
field
survey
work,
we've
cleaned
most
of
the
ten
thousand
feet
of
pipe
that
we
were
cleaning
out
as
part
of
our
survey
and
some
short-term
drainage
improvements
we're
putting
together
the
existing
conditions
model
right
now
with
aecom.
So
we
can
evaluate
basically
recommended
improvement
projects,
the
barbary,
woods,
drainage,
diversion
project.
We've
got
our
preliminary
design.
Work
has
been
going
well,
we've
finished
all
of
our
basically
wetland
and
initial
topographic
survey.
F
Work,
do
we're
developing
our
property
acquisition
plans
and
we
should
have
a
25
complete
set
of
plans
and
that's
basically
we're
not
not
the
only
half
25
percent
of
your
plans,
but
the
overall
plan
set
is
kind
of
at
a
stage
that
we
call
about
25,
complete
of
the
work
sometime
in
the
next
month
or
so
and
that'll
start
to.
Let
us
get
a
sense
of
what
the
project's
going
to
look
like
what
the
costs
are
going
to
be
the
property
we
need
to
acquire,
and
so
we
can
keep
moving
forward
with
that.
F
F
Work
has
just
kind
of
finished,
reviewing
work
from
the
city's
vulnerability
study
and
the
city's
comp
plan
work
with
the
the
wagner
ball
team
for
the
water
side
of
the
comp
plan,
taking
that
data
and
now
incorporating
it
with
their
own
analysis
of
john's
island
to
start
developing
their
plan
for
where
which
drainage
ways
need
to
be
preserved,
which
needed
to
be
rehabilitated
again.
On
kind
of
that
natural
systems
approach,
we
are
starting
up
a
technical
advisory
group.
F
Invitations
for
that
group
went
out
last
week
for
basically
bringing
in
some
technical
stakeholders
in
the
area
to
represent
some
of
the
different
constituencies,
we'll
be
discussing
the
the
path
forward
with
those
those
residents
which
will
help
those
sorry,
those
technical
staff
which
will
then
help
us
turn
into
the
the
next
stage.
The
project,
which
also
includes
a
residential
outreach
component,
to
try
to
get
gather
more
input
from
the
island
on
what
we're
doing
as
we
move
forward
the
windermere
range
improvement
evaluation
survey.
Work
is
continuing.
F
We're
currently
one
of
the
challenges
we
had
is
there's
a
section
of
pipe
along
folly,
road,
that's
in
kind
of
much
more
heavily
sedimented
than
we
expected
it
to
be,
so
we're
actually
coordinating
right
now
with
dot
where,
basically,
the
city
is
going
to
use
its
contractors
and
clean
out
that
section
of
pipe
while
d.o.t
provides
traffic
control
and
our
surveyors
come
back
through
with
the
thomas
nuttin
team
to
collect
all
of
the
drainage
information.
F
So
that's
kind
of
again,
hopefully
a
bunch
of
different
agencies
working
well
together,
and
that
we
should
provide
some
short-term
drainage
improvements
by
cleaning
out
some
pipes
that
are
clearly
having
drainage
issues
but
receiving
some
reduction
in
cost
on
our
side
from
dot,
providing
very
challenging
traffic
control
along
folly,
road
and
helping
us
shut
down
lanes
and
work
that
they
can
do
well.
Dot,
obviously,
is
receiving
the
benefit
of
the
city,
helping
them
with
their
infrastructure
in
the
area.
So
it's
another
good
kind
of
collaborative
style
of
project.
F
What's
going
on
on
the
windermere
project
and
how
that
works
in
that
neighborhood
and
kind
of
help,
us
have
a
main
focal
point
for
for
neighborhood
outreach
and
discussion
on
that
project,
as
well
as
it
progresses
the
let's
see
the
dupont,
wapu
improvement
projects,
so
our
aecom
field
survey
teams
have
been
working
for
the
last
month
or
so
on
the
project
areas
one
through
four
and
are
continuing
to
collect
data,
basically
at
a
design
level
of
survey
on,
especially
on
the
pipe
system.
F
The
buried
pipe
system
out
there
so
they'll
be
moving
to
take
that
data
update
their
existing
model
stormwater
model
they
built
into
the
preliminary
design
work
that
they've
done.
So
we
can
start
putting
together
some
construction
plans
for
the
improvements
on
those
four
projects
and
that
one
again
is
collaborative
with
charleston
county,
where
they're
they're
funding,
25
percent
of
that
work.
Matt.
F
So
I
would
say
we'd
be
ready
to
start
construction,
probably
probably
in
early
2022,
on
most
of
the
projects.
There
might
the
section
that
goes
through
epic
center,
the
citadel
mall
property
that
that's
one
of
the
ones
that'll
be
a
little
more
challenging
to
probably
coordinate,
because
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
going
on
on
that
property
all
at
the
same
time.
F
F
But
that
was
that
one
is,
you
know
we're
at
a
point
now
where
we
should
be
hitting
the
ground
and
kind
of
rolling
and
gathering
momentum
and
working
our
way
through
those
projects.
So
I'm
excited
to
see
things
actually
getting
built
out
there,
because
we've
done
a
lot
of
studying
in
that
area
and
it'll
be
good
to
see
improvements
going
in
it's
very
complicated.
It's
a
very
large
complicated
system
which
is
what's
been
the
the
challenge
similar.
B
We
created
that
new
outfall
into
into
what
is
now
we're
still
referred
to
the
duck
pond,
and
we
got
to
do
better
with
that,
but
anyway,
so
that
retention
area
could
had
extra
capacity.
We
created
a
ditch
to
get
some
water
into
it.
This
is
over
the
ardmore
area.
Is
there
any
other
capacity
issues
like
that
that
you
think
can
can
help
out
in
this
yeah?
We.
F
Have
we
have
looked
at
some
some
areas,
kind
of
down
on
the
edge
of
councilman
appel's
district
as
you're
you're
at
the
air
harbor
neighborhood?
I
think
you're
familiar
with
that
too
councilman
warren
they're
sort
of
it's
right
on
that
drainage
divide
between
the
two
basins
trying
to
see.
If
there's
anything,
we
can
do
to
help
move
water
sort
of
down
the
greenway
and
out
in
that
area
to
keep
water
from
coming
into
the
dupont,
wapu
right
basin.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
other
area.
F
We've
seen
that
it
probably
needs
a
little
bit
more
analysis
and
we've
we've
got
another
collaborative
project,
we're
trying
to
lay
out
actually
with
the
county
in
that
area,
because
there's
a
lot
of
overlapping
watersheds
where
we
might
see
if
the
the
county
can
help
us
with
a
little
bit
of
extra
survey
work
and
some
heavy
maintenance
work
in
return,
for
maybe
a
small
project
that
we're
looking
at
we'll
be
looking
at
this
year
with
public
works
utilities
for
one
of
the
larger
townhome
complexes
in
the
area.
F
B
On
the
other
side
of
this
call
out,
I
mean
I'm
meeting
I'll.
Give
you
a
call
on
that
same
point
that
I'll
maybe
keep
it
on
on
the
other
side
of
the
greenway,
as
opposed
to
re-entering
you
know
not.
F
Concord
street
station
upfit
we've
been
going
through
our
concept,
design,
evaluation
to
upfit
the
basically
that
more
than
20
year
old
pump
station,
we're
we're
about
60
on
our
concept
report
and
we'll
be
hopefully
getting
a
kind
of
a
finalized
set
of
recommendations
in
the
spring
to
be
able
to
start
designing
the
the
actual
upfit
work,
the
church,
creek
flood
storage
projects,
basically
the
contractors
on
board.
F
So
we're
on
a
we're
on
a
again
a
really
fast
project
approach
out
there
because
similar
to
dupont,
wapa
we've
done
a
lot
of
work.
Studying
we've
done
a
lot
of
work.
Looking
at
options,
we
want
to
start,
you
know
getting
to
where
we
can
get
into
construction.
On
projects
in
that
area,
as
well,
the
limehouse
brick
arch
rehabilitation
pilot
project,
so
I'm
another
mouthful.
F
I
gotta,
I
gotta
find
a
shorter
way
to
phrase
my
my
project,
titles,
but
this
is
where
we're
basically
trying
to
again
rehabilitate
the
existing
brick
arches
to
improve,
tie
them
better
into
the
stormwater
system
and
improve
drainage,
especially
on
the
kind
of
the
older
portion
of
the
peninsula.
F
We
basically
are
setting
up
right
now
with
our
idc
contractors
for
lining
from
the
limehouse
basically
limehouse
arch
up
to
about
trad
street.
We
think
that's
gonna
be
the
first
kind
of
the
first
mini
phase
of
the
project.
We're
setting
up
our
schedules
right
now,
working
that
through
we'll
get
that
piece
knocked
out
and
then
we'll
basically
start
doing
the
design
work
on
the
next
section.
While
we're
doing
the
construction
work
on
the
back
section
kind
of
work.
F
Our
way,
you
know
500
feet
at
a
time
or
so
through
the
arch
system,
the
medical
district
tunnel
extension,
that's
the
earhart
shaft.
The
basically
only
thing
left
on
that
project
at
this
point
is
the
is
the
grant
funding
that
we're
waiting
on
to
hear
from
both
hud
cdbg
and
the
fema
brick
project,
and
then
the
easements,
the
actual
conveyance
of
the
easements
to
the
city
by
musc,
we've
kind
of
gone
back
and
forth
a
few
times
between
the
attorneys,
the
easements
are
currently
being
reviewed.
F
F
We
did
work
with
the
parks
department
and
the
county
again
to
all
three
of
us
kind
of
collaboratively,
provide
information
to
the
green,
the
green
belt
for
the
parcel
at
the
end
of
howell
avenue,
to
look
at
potentially
purchasing
that
that
parcel
and
turning
it
into
a
some
sort
of
stormwater
detention
facility
to
help
move
some
of
the
flooding
off
of
howell
avenue
and
down
onto
that
low-lying,
parcel
we'll
see
how
that
that
application
goes
as
it
moves
forward
again.
F
I
think
really
nice
project
where
the
city
is
basically
applying
for
a
greenbelt
project.
The
county
has
agreed
to
do
most
of
the
construction
work
associated
with
the
project,
and
then
the
city
would
basically
maintain
and
operate
it
as
sort
of
a
passive
park
space
moving
forward,
which
is
sort
of
again
a
really
nice
way
to
leverage
different
types
of
projects
all
together
for
funding
purposes.
F
The
kind
of
moving
into
slightly
smaller
projects,
the
the
mueller
drive
drainage,
easement
we've
been
working
to
modify
the
ditch
flow
to
the
northwest.
Instead
of
the
original
concept
of
moving
more
towards
the
south
east,
we
have
a
pretty
good
path
forward
that
we're
just
coordinating
with
some
hand,
clean
hand,
clean
crews
to
kind
of
go
in
and
do
the
last
parts
of
that
work,
and
then
we've
set
up
with
the
contractor
to
clean,
actually
the
pipe
system
that
flows
to
the
northwest,
basically
beyond
the
edge
of
that
project.
F
F
As
we
talked
about
earlier
with
the
pipe
rehabilitation
program
and
use
this
as
one
of
our
test
case
neighborhoods
for
that
as
well,
the
culpepper
southgate
drainage
easement,
we
do
have
our
our
surveyor
hired
now
for
that
project
and
we'll
be
basically
waiting
for
that
surveyor
to
complete
survey
work.
So
we
can
go
in
and
examine
our
options
for
for
improvement
there
as
well
down
the
street
dryden
court.
Drainage
evaluation,
we're
continuing
the
field
survey
work
as
well
as
on
west
pawnee,
place
bamboo
area,
drainage
evaluation.
F
So
those
those
are
both
thomas
hunting
projects
that
they're
doing
basically
survey
work,
field
investigation
and
try
and
develop
what
some
options
are
for
improvement.
Then
we
need
to
circle
background
with
the
residents
once
we
have
that
that
information
together
to
discuss
what
those
potential
options
are.
F
So
this
one's
a
little
bit
different
in
the
broad
lockwood.
You
know
the
the
city
has
been
looking
at
a
kind
of
a
knee
wall
barrier
approach,
but
we've
also
been
coordinating
with
the
beach
company.
That's
been
looking
at
doing
improvements
to
the
actual
road
surface
itself
to
help
that
intersection
drain
off
the
city
design.
For
the
knee
wall,
section
will
probably
go
as
a
small
project
option
for
allocation
in
the
2021
funding
cycle
for
public
works
utilities
to
consider
the
beach
company
work.
F
I
think
they've
got
one
pipe
in
one
pipe
halfway
in
and
they
plan,
depending
on
whether
over
the
next
two
weeks,
they're
expecting
to
have
the
the
pipes
complete
and
some
of
the
road
elevation
in
in
the
next
two
weeks
to
help
shed
the
water
off.
So
basically,
their
their
project
would
help
the
road
drain
much
faster
and
not
flood
quite
as
frequently,
but
primarily
help
it
drain
much
quicker
after
a
flooding
event.
F
Hopefully,
for
that
that
area
as
well
to
improve
drainage
in
that
section
of
the
city
and
then,
if
did
have
the
other
items
on
the
agenda,
I
think
that
councilman
zachary
comes
when
gregory
had
asked
for
some
updates
on
a
couple
areas
on
the
yeah
heavy
rehabilitation
work
that
we've
done
in
the
west
edge
area,
so
I'll,
maybe
start
with
the
west
edge
one
really
quickly,
because
that's
a
little
bit
more
of
a
straightforward
if
anything,
a
straightforward
drainage
presentation.
F
So
this
is
a
a
map
that
kind
of
the
the
west
edge
group
and
thomas
hutton
used
to
describe
the
drainage
and
it
works.
It
works
pretty
well
to
give
a
sense
of
what's
going
on
out
there,
so
they're,
the
the
left
is
kind
of
what
the
existing
situation
is.
There's,
basically,
this
very
large
drainage
base
in
here
this
gaston
creek
peasant
street
basin.
F
It
all
sort
of
drains
tries
to
drain
down
through
the
gaston
creek
area
and
into
the
into
the
river
here.
So
the
the
green
and
the
red
are
showing
green,
showing
storm
water
and
red,
showing
tidal
water,
and
you
can
see
you
know
when
you
get
high
tides.
Obviously
the
water
comes
in
and
and
basically
floods,
gas
and
green
and
floods
some
of
the
streets
in
this
area.
F
When
you
get
heavy
rainfall,
you
get
the
same.
The
same
basic
situation,
one
of
the
areas
we
pump
from
is
is
down
in
always
street
when
we
see
the
crosstown
flooding
to
try
to
move
that
water
out.
What
is
being
proposed
for
west
edge
for
drainage
in
this
area,
see
if
I
can
move
my
okay
over
here,
is
to
basically
work
with
the
spring
fishburn
project,
the
deep
tunnel
project
again
to
separate
out
the
drainage
basins.
You
can
see
that
we're
changing
the
shape
of
the
basins
here.
F
F
The.
What
we're
looking
to
do
with
with
the
west
edge
coordination
is
that
west
edge
is
then
saying.
Okay,
we
are
going
to
take
this
section
that
is
sort
of
the
green
itself
and
modify
the
drainage
to
bring
that
water.
You
know
down
here
basically
and
then
up
and
through
stone
kind
of
the
backside
of
stony
field
into
the
marsh.
With
a
with
a
new
drainage
system,
they
will
tidally
control
that
with
check
valve
so
that
the
tide
can't
come
in.
That's
where
they're,
showing
the
red
arrow
kind
of
stops.
Here.
F
Doesn't
come
into
the
street
and
up
into
the
flooded
area,
so
that
would
be
their
outfall
for
that.
The
the
section
of
west
edge,
the
actual
kind
of
core
of
west
edge,
basically
gets
elevated
and
you
can
see
it
when
you
drive
out
there.
So
much
of
it
is
so
elevated
that
it
actually
cuts
off
the
tidal
inflow
through
the
existing
creek
area
and
basically
lets
that
water
flow
out.
F
So
the
the
concept
is
basically
elevating
to
avoid
tidal
flow,
bringing
certain
areas
into
the
deep
tunnel
pump
system,
because
now
you
have
more
gravity,
fall
to
be
able
to
get
to
those
areas
and
then
cutting
off
the
again,
the
tidal
inflow.
That's
that's
causing
a
lot
of
the
heavy
flooding,
that's
very
challenging
to
get
to
and
diverting
that
out
again,
it
doesn't
doesn't
fix
some
of
the
outlying
flood
areas.
I
mean
there
are
still
challenges
with
lockwood,
as
you
come
kind
of
come
around
the
corner
that
that's
a
different
section,
but
it
does.
F
It
does
address
much
of
the
flooding
on
the
interior
sections
of
all
of
these
these
basins.
So
hopefully
that's
any
questions.
That's
a
relatively
quick
way
to
describe
a
few
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
of
drainage
work.
Probably.
B
I
saw
councilman
sacrament
on
the
meeting
council
sacrament,
you
have
any
questions
or
observations.
F
Okay,
okay
and
then
I
know
he
had
accounts
for
zachary
had
asked
for.
I
think
counseling
gregory
had
originally
asked
some
of
the
west
edge
questions,
because
I
think
it's
something
he
certainly
had
a
lot
of
interest.
In
briefly
the
I
guess,
the
section
that
councilman
saccharin
had
been
interested
in,
I
believe,
which
you
know
he's
able
to
make
it
here
for
some
of
his
constituents
may
still
be
on
the
line,
but
was
the.
E
F
Okay,
yeah:
this
map
is
enormous,
enormous
file
because
of
all
of
the
topo
and
pipe
network,
but
this
is
a
constant
secret
ask
for
an
update
on
the
rehabilitation
work
kind
of
through
his
district
and
where
it
interacts
with
councilman
gregory's
district
as
well.
I
just
wanted
to
run
through
some
of
the
kind
of
the
heavy
rehab
that
we've
done
in
the
area.
The
first
one
is
we've.
F
This
can
get
a
little
bit
challenging
to
follow
because
it's
it's
such
a
complex
set
of
pipe
network,
but
this
is
rutledge
here.
Obviously,
you
can
see
in
the
yellow.
We
did
some
heavy
drainage
rehabilitation
work
on
rutledge
from
poplar
down
to
gordon
through
simmons
street
and
cleaned
out
all
of
the
the
pipe
network
here,
which
was
basically
completely
blocked
to
get
it
closer
to
the
outfall,
both
on
gordon
and
then
down
on
grove
street.
It's
a
very
large
system
on
grove
street.
F
We
previously
cleaned
out
grove
street
and
lines
and
box
culvert
and
done
a
series
of
work
a
number
of
years
ago,
along
grove
street.
I'm
gonna
try
to
do
this
relatively
quickly.
On
president
street
just
south
of
the
park
and
see,
if
I
can
do
this
without
freezing
everyone's
computer
on
president
street,
we
cleaned
from
moultrie
to
congress.
So
this
was
another
block
section
that
had
some
major
failures
on
it.
F
We're
able
to
get
kind
of
this
whole
bowl
here
that
you
can
see
in
the
topo
to
start
draining
and
it
comes
down
congress
actually
drains
out
through
congress.
We
also
cleaned
president
from
bogart
down
to
spring.
So
this
is
one
of
the
again
the
really
challenging
areas
for
drainage
in
the
city.
That
was
when
you
start
getting
south
towards
septem
clark.
F
So
we
cleaned
this
section
from
boguard
here
down
through
17,
probably
not
quite
low
enough
again.
This
will
be
eventually
served
by
the
spring
fishburn
project,
but
we're
trying
to
find
some
short-term
relief,
because
there
is
some
really
challenging
flooding
through
this
area.
So
we
did
go
through
and
rehabilitate
those
pipes.
We
also
cleaned.
F
F
We
also
repaired
and
cleaned
gordon
at
the
wagner
area,
which
kind
of
as
you
move
down
down
to
this
direction.
We
found
some
collapses
and
were
able
to
clean
that
and
get
it
out,
so
it
flows
out
into
the
into
the
river.
F
This
is
what
we've
done
over
the
last
year:
kind
of
in
this
in
this
district
from
heavy
maintenance
perspective,
piedmont
and
maple
again,
another
area
that
tends
to
sort
of
have
standing
water
long
after
rain
events
and
during
rain
events.
F
We
started
out
actually
cleaning
piedmont
and
maple
down
maple
street
and
then
came
down
hester,
which
then
comes
to
alberta,
which
then
comes
to
10th,
which
then
eventually
gets
into
the
water
and
got
all
of
that
cleaned
and
in
really
nice
condition
had
a
lot
of
improvements,
kind
of
along
hester
in
this
area
on
the
10th
avenue
basin.
But
we
really
didn't
see
much
improvement
at
piedmont
and
maple,
which
which
surprised
us-
and
we
basically
realized
that
the
drainage
system
here
is
not
as
well
connected
as
we
thought
and
a
lot
of
the
piedmont.
F
A
F
Yes,
yeah,
you
can
see,
I
mean
it's
hard
to
see
it
on
on
this
map,
because
I
have
it
zoomed
out
so
far,
but
kind
of
the
intersection
here
is
mostly
at
about
six
feet
of
elevation,
and
the
surrounding
areas
are
mostly
at
like
nine
and
ten
feet
of
elevation,
so
this
whole
section
basically
drains
down
into
that
bowl
here.
That's
why
we're
trying
to
trying
to
address
that
bowl?
F
It's
not
perfect,
but
it
now
at
least
will
drain
out
as
the
tide
comes
down
instead
of
just
sitting
for
a
couple
of
days,
but
you're
right,
many
of
these
neighborhoods
are
are
quite
challenging
and
then,
let's
see
the
last
one
in.
F
There
so
the
other
area
that
we
cleaned
sort
of
in
this
section
rehabilitated
was
the
north
north
enstinson
saint
susie
area.
Here
this
was
another
section,
so
it's
actually
higher
in
elevation,
but
was
flooding
really
badly.
So
we
did
clean
down
san
souci
to
king
and
got
that
to
drain
again
better
with
that
high
elevation.
F
We
were
surprised
how
badly
it
was
flooding,
so
we
were
able
to
get
that
mostly
opened
up
and
drained
down
towards
king
street,
and
then
the
only
other
section
kind
of
in
councilman's
akron's
district
that
we
had
focused
on
previously
was
the
almost
two
miles
of
pipe
cleaning.
We
did
on
the
east
side
recently
in
cooper
jackson,
going
through
that
whole
whole
subdivision
and
trying
to
clean
out
the
major
blockages
and
challenges
we
saw
through.
F
There
that
was
my
my
win
whirlwind
tour
through
some
of
our
western
peninsula
cleaning.
H
B
No,
oh,
we
will,
but
anyway,
maybe
we
can
summarize
some
of
the
ones
we're
more
familiar
with
mr
mir.
E
I
just
wanted
to
ask
matt,
and
maybe
they
don't
really
look
through
what
they
clean
out,
but
is
it
mostly
silt?
Is
it
a
lot
of
organic
debris
like
leaves
and
twig
I
mean
limbs,
is
it.
F
You
have
a
lot
of
really
beautiful
live
oak
trees
and
the
oakley,
the
oak
roots
will
basically
go
in
and
block
the
pipe
and
once
the
oak
roots
are
in
there,
it
kind
of
it
acts
to
like
make
like
a
grid
almost
in
the
pipe
and
then
all
the
leaves
and
anything
else
to
get
in
there
get
caught
by
the
roots,
and
it
just
makes
a
complete,
solid,
plug
very
very
quickly.
F
Those
those
are
hard,
especially
the
vitrified
clay.
That's
why
this
area
is
so
challenging
to
maintain
that
if
you
normally
use
a
root
cutter
to
remove
roots
which
a
root
cutter
is
basically
looks
like
someone
looks
like
something
from
mad
max.
You
like
have
like
a
spinning
set
of
chains
on
the
end
of
a
probe,
basically
on
the
back
truck,
and
it
tries
to
basically
spin
and
cut
its
way
through
the
roots
and
rip
the
roots
out
on
a
vitrified
clay
pipe
the
risk
is
you
destroy
the
entire
pipe
while
you're
doing
it?
F
So
it's
a
it's
a
much
more
challenging
thing
to
clean
and
it
tends
to
be
both
time-consuming
and
expensive,
but
that's
the
challenge
in
wagga
terrace
in
a
lot
of
west
ashley.
It's
it's
leaves
a
lot
of
the
time.
A
lot
again.
A
lot
of
the
inner
west
actually
get
these
beautiful
oak
trees
just
constantly
all
year
round
dropping
leaves
they'll
flush
into
the
drainage.
If
you
go
into.
F
Older
older
neighborhoods
that
don't
have
tree
leaves
then
it'll
be
sediment,
but
there
aren't
normally
as
many
blockages,
because
they're
the
sediment
takes
longer
to
accumulate,
but
if
there
is
a
blockage
of
seven
minutes,
it's
much
worse
and
then,
if
you
get
into
the
peninsula
it
frequently
collapses,
it'll
be
either
a
utility
penetration
at
some
point
that
had
the
pipe
fail
and
you'll
see
the
actual
pipe
completely
collapsed
and
often
the
penetrations
might
be
100
years
old
downtown
because
the
pipes
are
that
old.
It's
not
necessarily
something
new.
That's
happened.
F
It's
just
trying
to
find
all
of
those
and
repair
them,
but
we
do.
We
do
look
and
we
do
it
does
it.
You
do
see
regional
consistency,
but
it's
it's
not
it's
not
universal
across
the
whole
city.
B
G
Matt
thanks
again
for
another
wonderful
presentation
and
I'm
very
excited
to
see
not
just
what's
happening
on
the
peninsula,
but
all
the
exciting
projects
we've
got
in
west
ashley
and
james
island.
I
had
a
question
about
the
the
marsh
outfall
general
permits
just
real
generally.
Where
do
we
stand
on
that?
What
are
some
milestones
on
the
horizon,
and
what
can
we
do
to
help
you
in
that?
In
that
effort.
F
Yeah,
so
the
dhec
has
been
working
through.
I
think
you've
seen
some
of
the
drafts
that
they've
put
together
they've
sort
of
been
waiting
for
a
little
bit
of
more
a
little
more
information
from
the
army
corps
of
engineers.
The
army
corps
goes
through
a
nationwide
permit
update
on
like
a
five-year
cycle.
It's
five
years
this
year
was
their
year
for
doing
many
of
their
nationwide
permits,
so
they
really
haven't
been
touching.
F
The
outfall
permits,
while
they've
been
getting
through
the
like
mandated
nationwide
permits
they
had
to
do
they
expected
to
get
back
into
the
outflow
permits
in
february.
So
I
expect
we'll
see
something
from
them
over
the
next
couple
of
months.
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
continue
to
on
that.
F
One
advocate
with
dhec
to
consider
you
know
what
qualifies
as
maintenance
again,
the
the
army
corps
has
a
has
a
pretty
reasonable
definition
generally
for
maintenance,
dx
a
little
bit
more
restrictive
generally
and
what
they've
included
in
their
their
maintenance
definition,
and
I
think
that's
something
we
need
to.
We
need
to
spend
time
and
attention
on
we
have.
We
have
on
the
upside,
seen
in
a
decrease
in
time
on
review
of
maintenance
for
maintenance
review
requests.
We've
asked
for
from
vhx.
They
do
seem
to
be
prioritizing
that
more.
F
So
we
now
need
to
come
up
with
a
hydro,
excavation
plan
for
it
and
see
if
we
need
to
do
it
contractor-wise
or
with
ourselves
with
our
own
forces,
but
we
at
least
do
have
the
permit
saying.
Yes,
you
can
do
this
as
maintenance.
Yes,
it
is
clearly
an
existing
major
important
channel
so
that
that
that
was
really
important
got.
G
It
I
mean,
would
it
be
as
simple
as
to
harmonize
the
army
corps
definition
of
maintenance
with
d
heck
ocrms
I
mean,
would
that
be
just
an
elegant
way
of
trying
to
tee
this
up,
because
one
of
the
one
of
the
thoughts
I
had
is
that
you
know
this
could
be
a
legislative
solution.
We
get
our
delegation
to
work
on
this
this
this
this
this
term.
You
know
because
it
sounds
like
the
bureaucrats
and
ocrm
or
maybe
a
little.
G
I
can
tell
there's
some
tension
there,
and
this
may
just
be
a
way
we
can.
We
can
nip
this
whole
issue
in
the
bud
and
perhaps
mirroring
the
federal
government's
definition
with
the
states.
Definition
may
be
one
way
of
going
about
doing
that
I
mean.
Does
that
have
any
it's.
F
Varied
or
mobile
over
the
last
two
administrations,
so
that's
the
only
challenge
is
that
the
the
current
the
current,
the
the
current
guidance?
I
I
don't
know
what
the
longevity
of
the
current
guidance
is.
They're,
the
way
that
waters
the
united
states
rules
work.
We
south
carolina
is
under
the
the
old
largest
united
states
rule.
F
There
was
a
new
waters
of
the
nate
waters,
the
united
states
rule
put
in
by
the
obama
administration
that
was
stayed
in
south
carolina
due
to
serious
lawsuits
as
well
as
like
20
things
like
22
other
states,
then
the
the
trump
administration
actually
instituted
another
waters,
the
united
states
review,
while
the
obama
administration
one,
was
still
stayed,
which
I
think
retracted
it,
but
I'm
not
entirely
sure
that
one,
I
think,
is
also
still
stayed
so
we're
still
under
the
previous
one,
which
is,
I
think,
from
the
80s.
F
I
have
to
pull
my
notes,
so
it
it
gets.
It
gets
interesting
quickly.
So
yes,
but
also,
no,
I
think,
is
the
is
the
answer
there.
Yeah.
G
Sounds
good,
we'll
we'll
keep
up
the
good
work
on
that,
and
I
just
this
is
such
a
big.
You
know
positive
improvement
on
the
horizon,
just
the
ability
to
clean
out
these
outfalls.
I
I
can
already
tell
anecdotally
in
my
district,
this
has
really
made
a
difference,
knock
on
wood
and
it's
not
always
about
you,
know.
G
You've
got
the
spring
fish
burn
project
and
that's
awesome
and
huge,
but
in
some
of
these
outer
boroughs
as
councilwoman
jackson
likes
to
put
it,
you
know,
sometimes
you
know
getting
a
shovel
into
a
pipe
into
a
marsh
can
really
have
significant
impacts
and
the
more
red
tape
we
can
eliminate.
On
that
front,
I
think
the
better
off
we'll
be
so
thanks
again
for
all
your
great
work
on
pushing
that
along
and
just
let
us
know
what
we
can
do
to
help.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
guys
and
you're
right.
I
mean
that
the
outfalls
are
incredibly
important.
I
mean
so
are
the
as
councilman
shaded
brought
up
earlier.
So
are
the
neighborhood
rehabilitation
programs
and
that's
why
we're
working
through
even
with
the
the
angst
and
the
grief
it
sometimes
causes
the
amount
of
flood
relief.
You
get
is
very
significant,
so
it's
worth
pushing
through
the
difficulty
to
make
it
you
know
kind
of
get
through
the
initial
pain
ever
have
their.
You
know
their
ditches,
restore
their
outfalls
kind
of
company.
B
Okay,
any
last
comments.
Thanks
again,
man
make
us
all
proud
seriously
thanks,
god,
that's
it
any
last
items
beyond
any
acclimation.
We
stand
adjourned,
look
forward
to
seeing
you
guys
tomorrow.