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City of Charleston Committee on Public Works and Utilities 8/16/21
C
D
Item
yeah
keith,
we
calvin
shade
and
I
both
you
know,
met
with
them
on
friday
and
they
they
certainly
have
some
concerns
and
I
hope
they
will
hope.
They'll
address
those
concerns,
maybe
at
the
drb
meeting
and
maybe
at
our
meeting
tomorrow,
but
they're
very,
very
concerned
about
what
what's
happening
there
yeah.
They.
D
Road
and
they've
done
a
good
job
of
making,
where
there's
just
one
cross
point
over
there
to
get
to
their
fields
and
they're
very,
very
concerned
on
a
lot
of
different
factors,
but
mainly
as
a
as
a
safety
factor
for
the
kids
there,
and
then
that
may
potentially
draw
a
kid
to
go:
buy
a
candy
bar
and
a
coke
over
there
and
get
hit
by
a
car.
So
they've
got
some
they've
got
some
real
concerns.
B
C
A
E
Mr
chairman,
mrs
mayor
members
of
the
committee,
the
first
three
items
we
have
are
our
letters
we're
sending
to
scdot
for
making
success
responsibility,
exceptions.
The
first
one
is
for
a
project
at
102
president
street,
and
that
is
dealing
with
some
sidewalks
and
granite
curb
and
some
street
lights.
E
A
F
Order,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
just
want
to
highlight
items
number
five,
six
and
seven
here
these
are
stormwater
easements
in
the
old
windermere
neighborhood
across
the
street,
from
the
south
windermere
shopping
center
over
in
my
district,
and
this
is
the
part
of
old
windermere
that
butts
up
against
the
crescent
and
there's
been
this-
ditch
that's
between
those
two
neighborhoods,
since
you
know
the
20s
and
the
30s
when
this,
when
these
neighborhoods
were
first
laid
out
and
everybody
is
assumed
over
the
years.
F
So
this
is
a
city,
drainage,
ditch,
but
it
it's
always
been
private
property.
And
you
know
right
after
getting
into
office.
I
heard
from
the
folks
over
in
the
crescent.
They
were
dealing
with
some
stormwater
issues
and
I
got
a
tremendous
education
from
matt
and
benji,
and
chip
regarding
stormwater
easements,
how
they
work.
F
The
fact
that
we
need
them
in
order
for
us
to
you
know,
do
work
out.
There
use
public
funds,
otherwise
we're
using
public
funds
on
private
property,
which
is
of
course
illegal,
and
we
have
worked
relentlessly
over
the
past
18
months
or
so
to
get
to
the
point
that
we're
at
today,
the
homeowners
that
that
are,
you
know
implicated
here,
have
worked
with
us.
F
They've
agreed
to
grant
the
city
these
easements
bratis,
which
is
of
course
the
way
we
do
this,
and
this
is
the
first
time
we
will
have
established
city
of
charleston,
public
storm
water
infrastructure
in
two
of
the
oldest
neighborhoods
in
west
ashley,
and
it's
just
a
tremendous.
You
know
event
and
it's
something
that
is
part
of
a
more
consistent
comprehensive
effort
to
you
know,
get
stormwater
moving
better
in
those
neighborhoods,
but
it's.
F
This
is
what
we
have
to
do
in
some
of
our
older
neighborhoods
to
actually
get
storm
water
under
control
and
and
take
it
out
of
the
you
know.
Maybe
somebody
did
something
out
there
20
years
ago,
but
nothing's
been
done,
since
this
is
how
we
get
it
into
a
regular
maintenance
routine,
and
this
is
how
we
actually
start
retrofitting
some
of
these
old
neighborhoods
to
actually
have
a
functioning
public
storm
water
system.
F
So
this
is
may
seem
boring
to
a
lot
of
people
out
there,
but
this
is
really
great
work
and
I
want
to
thank
matt
and
benji
and
chip
for
all
their
hard
work
and
for
for
putting
up
with
my
incessant
nagging
via
email
and
whatnot.
But
of
course
the
the
you
know.
Big
credit
goes
out
to
these
homeowners
that
participated
in
this
with
the
city
and
they're
really
doing
not
just
themselves
a
tremendous
benefit,
but
but
their
neighbors
upstream.
F
A
That's
great,
listen!
I
know
what
you're
talking
about
when
it
comes
to
getting
a
ditch
something
simple
as
a
ditch,
officially
recognized.
So
we
can
go
in
and
maintain
it.
We,
our
engineering
department,
put
built
a
new
ditch.
If
you
will
have.
I
don't
know
it
took
almost
two
years,
mr
miller,
to
get
the
rights
away
over
ardmore
to
drain
and
that
ditch
has
kept
people
housing
new
debt.
It
kept
people
from
drinking
water
going
into
their
home.
A
So
it's
a
big
victory
for
you,
councilman
shayed,
myself,
councilman
shealy,
I
don't
know
councilman
griffin,
you
represent
some
of
the
older
areas,
but
anybody
that
represents
these
older
areas
with
infrastructure
for
stormwater
wasn't
recognized
in
the
70s
and
80s.
Maybe
in
some
cases
60s,
it's
a
beast
trying
to
solve
those
things.
Councilman
griffin.
G
H
There
somebody
else,
okay,
so
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
did
want
to
point
out
and
ask
it
just
occurred
to
me
to
ask
tom
and
our
legal
staff
to
kind
of
look
into
something.
You
know
this
is
one
of
councilmember
shade's,
favorite
topics,
the
fact
that
we
often
accept
this
maintenance
responsibility
from
the
scdot
and
often
with
the
I'm
told,
because
the
granite
curbing
is
not
one
of
their
accepted.
H
So,
and
I
certainly
wonder
whether
a
handicapped
ramp
might
be
one
of
those
things
but
to
check
on
that
specifically,
but
also
to
ask
our
legal
team.
I
see
a
couple
of
them
here
on
the
line
if
there
are
some
additional
things
that
are
result
of
the
scdot
complete
street
policy
that
we
could
avoid
having
to
accept
some
of
these
maintenance
responsibilities
in
the
future.
E
Yes,
sir,
we'll
be
glad
to
get
with
legal
and
work
on
that.
I
question
these
every
time
when
I
get
these
requests
from
the
engineers
on
these
projects,
I
call
julie
and
mike
black
and
say
you
know:
we've
had
some
in
the
past
where
they've
asked
us
we're
basically
building
you
know
having
the
sidewalk
built
for
them
and
on
dlt
right
away,
we're
requesting
that
and
getting
infrastructure
built
for
them
and
yeah
we've
pushed
back.
E
C
A
A
E
E
I
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
So
the
the
first
item
is
basically
a
just
a
point
of
notice
for
the
committee
members
that
the
national
resource
defense
council
is
going
to
do
a
a
survey
of
basically
participants
within
the
fema
buyout
process
for
having
your
home
purchased
and
demolished
they're.
Looking
to
get
opinions
from
people
on
how
that
process
works,
they
can
kind
of
continue
lobbying
with
fema
to
change
that
process
to
make
it
more
efficient.
I
So
one
of
the
areas
they're
doing
that
work
is
in
charleston,
because
we've
had
a
number
of
buyouts,
there's
no
funding
or
anything
from
the
city.
It's
just
more
notification
in
case
a
resident
calls
and
asks
what's
going
on.
That's
it's
an
independent
group,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
some
opinions.
They
protect
everyone's
data
and
keep
it
confidential.
They
just
want
to
come
back
with
information
for
basically
discussing
with
fema
of
how
to
improve
that
process,
because.
H
I
Yeah,
that's
exactly
right,
mayor
that
that's
what
they're
trying
for
is
they're
a
pretty
strong,
aggressive
federal
lobbying
group
and
think
that
they
can
really
make
some
impact
on
encouraging
fema
to
look
at
different
ways
to
go
through
the
process,
whether
it's
having
you
know
upfront
agreements
and
thresholds
in
place
where
you
could
basically
trigger
a
acquisition
being
fundable
rather
than
having
to
go
back
through
the
application
process.
They
have
a
few
different
ideas,
but
they
feel
they
need
to
get
real
world
data
in
order
to
support
their
arguments
with
with
fema.
I
I
We
would
receive
536
284
dollars
and
17
cents
of
federal
funding
with
the
city
providing
match
of
thirty
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
four
dollars
and
eighty
three
cents
from
the
drainage
fund.
This
is
two
properties.
One
is
in
the
shadow
moss
area.
One
is
in
the
east
oak
forest
area,
and
these
are,
of
course,
once
the
grant.
G
Yes,
sir,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
is
just
another
example
of
our
city,
working
with
outside
resources.
To
make
these
things
happen
know
you
know
the
city's
not
paying
for
all
of
this,
but
we
have
a
game
plan.
Now,
we've
been
doing
it
for
several
years.
We
keep
getting
grants
year
after
year,
so
we're
putting
good
properties
in
the
pipeline,
and
I
think
this
is
a
win-win
for
everybody.
G
If
we,
if
you've
seen
the
designs
for
some
of
the
new
stormwater
components
to
these
properties,
returning
them
to
green
space
and
making
them,
you
know
not
only
an
opportunity
for
some
natural,
you
know
stormwater,
but
also
something
our
community
can
be
proud
of.
They're
gonna,
look
nice,
they're,
gonna,
have
a
nature
aspect:
they're
gonna
have
a
nice
exercise
aspect.
You
know
people
can
enjoy
it.
G
Nobody
that
lives
in
a
house
who
bought
next
to
a
house
wants
to
then
wake
up
one
morning
and
see
that
the
property
next
to
them
is
a
dog
park
or
a
playground.
They
want
to
see
something
more
natural
that
may
entice
people
to
come
visit,
but
can
also
have
a
really
great
stormwater
purpose.
So
some
of
these
designs
and
these
retrofits
have
really
really
impressed
me
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
how
we
can
continue
to
tie
these
new
buyouts
in
if
that's
what
the
property
owner
wants
to
do.
Thank
you.
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
h3
is
a
recommendation
to
award
a
construction
contract
for
the
drainage,
outfall
improvement,
maintenance
project,
it's
actually
two
separate
outfalls,
one
at
devonshire
drive
and
one
at
burns
downs
to
the
low
bidder,
which
was
es
integrated
for
290,
932
and
60
cents.
Funding
is
allocated
from
that.
This
year's
stormwater
small
project
allocation.
I
It'll
come
all
the
way
through
this
blue
line
down
to
the
the
base
point
here.
This
one
went
through
a
very
extensive
army
corps
of
engineer,
permitting
process
because
of
the
level
of
reconstruction
involved
and
basically
will
help
this.
This
section
of
the
neighborhood
here
drain
back
out
properly.
After
all,
the
accretion
that's
occurred
through
the
area.
C
I
I
You
can
see
the
the
outfall
is
kind
of
done,
the
same
thing.
It
actually
continues
further
south
there's
a
cws
utility
line
crossing.
We
had
previously
gone
in
by
hand
and
removed
a
lot
of
debris
that
had
accumulated
from
the
above
grade
crossing,
which
significantly
helped
with
much
of
the
flooding
that's
experienced
in
this
neighborhood
littleton.
The
area
around
it,
especially
the
this
process,
is
to
now
remove
some
of
that
accumulated
sediment
within
that
channel.
That
was
basically
accreted
when
the
trees
and
other
items
blocked
the
flow
in
that
channel.
I
That
slows
the
water
down
and
more
debris
basically
accumulates
within
the
channel
itself.
So
these
are.
These
are
both
hydroexcavation,
which
is
the
kind
of
the
most
environmentally
sensitive
approach.
That's
the
most
favored
by
the
permeating
agencies,
they're
both
neighborhood
scale,
drainage
improvements
because
they're,
both
these
neighborhoods
going
to
drain
through
single
outfalls.
I
F
Apparel
I'll
be
real,
quick.
I
promise
this
is
another
measure
in
my
district
and
I
just
want
to
thank
matt
and
the
mayor
and
everybody
else
that
helped
and
and
of
course
everybody
on
this
commit
on
this
committee.
You
know
we
approved
these
projects
earlier
in
the
year
and
what
we
learned
was
that
the
price
for
actually
doing
this
work
was
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
expensive
due
to
some
factors
outside
of
our
control.
F
So
I
I
would
hope
that
everybody
would
join
me
in
supporting
this.
These
are,
as
matt
mentioned,
neighborhood
wide
basin
improvements
right.
This
is
not
gonna
help
a
house,
two
houses,
three
houses:
this
is
gonna,
help
dozens,
if
not
more
houses,
both
in
burns
downs
and
in
the
farm
field
neighborhood,
and
this
is
good
maintenance
practice.
I
mean
burns.
F
You
know
army
corps
and
ocrm
permitting
and
that
work
has
been
going
on
for
years.
So
you
know,
without
this
funding
to
actually
do
the
work,
all
that
effort
would
have
been
for
not
so
these
are
two
very
important
projects.
I
would
really
encourage
everybody
to
support
it
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say-
and
this
is
maybe
for
another
discussion
as
the
city
gets
more
and
more
infrastructure
lined
up.
F
It-
may
be
more
beneficial
from
a
cost
perspective
for
the
city
to
actually
get
some
of
its
own
hydro
excavation
equipment.
So
we
don't
have
to
go
to
the
market
for
these
contracts.
We
can
actually
do
the
work
ourselves
and
actually
get
this
work
done
more
more
frequently,
not
just
in
my
district
of
course,
but
everywhere,
because
when
these
outfalls
are
working,
it's
a
game
changer
and
I've
already
noticed
measurable.
A
I
I
I
As
you're
all
probably
aware,
the
root
system
form
what
they're
they
call
knees,
the
kind
of
roots
that
grow
up
above
the
ground,
so
the
knees
basically
locked
up
much
of
the
drainage
in
the
drainage,
ditches
and
created
standing
water
and
other
issues
in
the
neighborhood,
so
we're
basically
going
through
and
removing
some
trees
and
installing
an
under
drain
based
system
instead
of
a
concrete
pipe
system
through
that
easement
and
then
into
the
outfall.
That's
over
here,
so
to
clean
up
the
drainage
issues.
I
So
this
is
this:
is
the
award
the
reward
for
the
low
bidder
for
that
project?
Work
we've
done
a
similar,
similar
project
not
with
the
cyprus
needs.
So
much,
but
a
similar
approach
actually
is
the
same
thing.
We
did
recently
in
councilman
griffin's
district
for
the
rear
yard,
drainage
issues
and
one
of
the
again
one
of
the
long
neighborhood
streets
just
like
this,
where
you're
serving
kind
of
multiple
properties
with
it.
A
I
A
C
G
G
E
G
We
looked
at
it
at
a
ditch
that
is
actually
probably
in
the
county,
but
has
you
know
it
affects
all
of
our
constituents,
and
I
noticed
that
a
lot
of
these
requests
I'm
getting
are
from
these
multi-jurisdictional
ditches
that
maybe
a
part
of
it
is
in
the
city
a
part
of
its
responsibility
of
the
golf
course
and
we're
still
trying
to
work
through
all
of
that.
But
just
on
a
positive
note,
so
we
went
out
there
that
day
with
golf
wheels
and
we
we
kind
of
came
up
with
a
game
plan.
G
G
G
Ditch
that
runs
all
the
way
in
front
of
those
neighborhoods
and
ties
back
in
to
the
church
creek
basin,
under
the
csx
railroad
tracks,
and
they
we
went
out
there
and
met
with
some
of
the
homeowners
and
we
it
was
charleston
county
west
linker.
He
came
out
there
and
then
matt
sent
three
or
four
guys
from
stormwater
and
we
started
talking-
and
these
guys
told
me
these
are
residents.
G
They
said
about
10
years
ago,
the
city
teamed
up
with
the
county
and
took
some
john
boats
in
there
and
actually
cleaned
that
whole
dish
out
it
took
about
a
week
and
we're
still
I'm
still
trying
to
do
some
more
research
on
exactly
how
that
happened,
because
it's
something
I've
never
even
heard
of
john
butts.
Maybe
you
remember
this,
mr
mayor.
G
I
think
it
was
before
even
your
time
that
mayor
riley
supposedly
teamed
up
with
charleston
county
and
they
sent
john
boats
in
there
to
actually
kill
some
of
that
debris
and
get
it
out
of
there,
because
I
tell
you
guys
with
all
of
the
you
know:
we've
been
very
blessed
these
last
four
years,
not
to
have
any
major
storms,
but
we
have
significant
debris.
That's
fallen
down
into
these
stitches
and
there's
really
no
way
for
us
to
get
them.
I
mean
we
can't
send
a
backhoe
in
there
and
we
have.
G
G
You
know
I
mean
that
it's
one
ditch
that
literally
serves
three
major
neighborhoods
that
all
drain
into
one
and
if
we
could
find
a
way
to
clean
out,
at
least
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
been
out
there
to
beast
ferry
road
and
you've
looked
into
that
ditch
that
runs
along
hickory
hill
and
hickory
farms.
It's
looking
pretty
bad
too.
G
I
know
we've
had
some
some
some
pretty
bad
weather
over
these
last
few
weeks
and
I
hope,
before
hurricane
season,
four
gets
too
too
bad,
and
then
you
know,
usually
in
the
middle
of
september,
we're
due
for
at
least
one
storm
that
looks
like
it's
coming
to
us.
I
hope
we
can
get
out
there
and
try
to
service
that
area
one
more
time
and
hit
the
big,
the
big
thoroughfares,
at
least
before
the
weather
gets
too
too
bad.
So
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
all
of
the
good
work
our
departments
have
done.
G
You
know
anytime
people
out
there
in
outer
west
ashley
anytime
a
storm
water
truck,
they
love
it.
You
know
it's
it's
impressive
because
for
years
it
seemed
like
we
never
saw
those
trucks,
but
we
do
see
them
quite
quite
regularly.
Now
and
I've
got
to
say
I
I
appreciate
the
leadership
from
matt
and
I
just
hope
we
can
try
to
get
out
there
and
knock
out
some
of
those
big
thoroughfares
at
least
one
more
time
before
we
have
a
another
significant
rain
event.
A
G
H
G
Right
into
the
railroad
tracks,
so
that
it's
along
doncaster,
if
you
look
it
that
ditch,
runs
along
the
very
outer
perimeter
of
hickory
hill.
It
runs
through
one
side
of
hickory
farms,
which
is
on
the.
If
you're
looking
at
hickory
hill,
it's
to
the
left
and
then
the
right
side
of
that
same
ditch
is
all
of
middleborough,
which
is
the
newest
shadow
moss
entrance,
so
that
one
ditch
is
basically
swallows
up
hickory
hill
and
then
on
the
out
perimeter,
hickory
farms
and
shadow
moss.
So.
A
G
A
very
very
big
dish-
and
it's
really
deep
over
there
on
that
dawn,
caster
side
I
mean
it's-
the
water
is
probably
up
to
your
chest.
I
didn't
get
in
and
swim
around
because
I
heard
there's
alligators,
but
I
hear
it's
pretty
deep
compared
to
over
on
the
shadow
moth
side,
it's
a
little
bit
more
shallow
and
it
doesn't
fill
up
quite
as
much
so
we're
able
to
get
in
there
a
lot
more.
H
So
I
remember-
and
I
think
it
might
have
been
before
matt
came
on
board
actually
going
down
in
the
ditch.
We
had
guys
from
city
and
county
with
chainsaws
and,
and
I
do
believe
that
they
were
working
partly
out
of
a
boat
and
then
partly
out
of
just
climbing
down
on
each
side,
and
you
know
all
that
vegetation
can
just
grow
back,
but
they
cleaned
that
thing
out.
G
G
I
think
that
I
think
that
going
out
there
and
checking
it
out
and
really
seeing
some
of
those
trees
down
in
there,
it
makes
you
think.
Okay,
how
can
we
attack
this
because
it's
a
very
unique
situation
back
there
I
mean
you
can
see
on
this
map
here.
Look
at
all
these
houses
that
are
serviced
by
these
big
big
ditches,
so
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up
and
really
thank
matt
because
he's
on
top
of
everything
I
mean
he
meets
me
out
there
every
almost
every
week.
A
C
A
I
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
one
is
just
basically
a
chance
for
discussion.
If
there's
any
questions,
we
do
have
a
significant
bids
and
purchases
emergency
repair
item
for
that
coming
street
sinkhole
that
everyone
is
probably
familiar
with.
It
received
quite
a
bit
of
news
coverage,
so
it
was
an
extensive
repair.
I
We
basically
found
an
underground
cistern,
one
of
the
brick
cisterns.
It's
underneath
the
arch
in
that
location,
so
we
had
to
stabilize
both
the
roughly
15
foot
diameter
cistern
in
addition
to
the
arch
itself,
which
led
to
why
the
street
was
closed
for
about
a
month
and
as
a
result
of
much
higher
repair
bill
than
usual.
But
the
upside
is
that
we
were
able
to
get
all
that
stabilized
cleaned
up.
College
charleston
was
was
great,
with
helping
with
some
of
the
traffic
control
and
keeping
the
area
safe,
and
luckily
we
were
in
summer.
I
B
I
So
we
have
a
an
annual
allocation.
That's
set
aside
for
basically
emergency
brick
arch
repairs,
we're
still
within
that
budget.
We
do
tend
to
get
pretty
close
to
it
each
year
this
year
we
happen
to
be
doing
very
well
before
this
repair,
so
your
fingers
crossed
as
we
get
through
hurricane
season,
which
is
where
sometimes
we'll
see
some.
I
We
had
quite
a
bit
of
work.
Seeing
previously
we
had
that
that
snowstorm
that
really
froze
the
ground
and
caused
some
serious
issues
downtown
in
some
previous
years,
but
so
far
we're
okay
from
a
budgetary
perspective
it
does.
It
does
bring
up.
Why
we're
trying
to
restabilize
and
convert
these
arches
into
improvements,
because
when
you're
spending
at
least
half
a
million
dollars
a
year
on
emergency
repair
work,
you
generally
would
be
better
off
with
proactive
work.
It's
just
trying
to
you
know
find
the
upfront
money
is
always
the
challenge.
So.
I
H
That
thing
was
big
and
it
can
hold
a
lot
of
water.
In
addition
to
being
you
know,
part
of
the
tunnel
system,
I
can
be
amazed
to
find
out.
I
think
we
all
would
how
many
of
those
cisterns
are
are
part
of
the
system
as
well,
but
to
reiterate
what
what
matt
is
saying
about
money
well
spent-
and
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
money,
but
but
we
we
should
keep
at
repairing
those
archway
tunnels
and
add
them
to
our
capacity
to
to
transport
and
hold
store
water.
H
H
We
just
need
to
clean
it
up
and
reinforce
it
so
that
it,
you
know,
is
more
functional
and
once
again,
the
the
cost
of
trying
to
do
it
proactively,
rather
than
coming
back
and
and
doing
these
repairs
is
money's
so
much
better
spent.
So
I
know
we
put
aside
what
was
it
500
000
this
year,
matt
for
the
new
work
of
cleaning
and
reinforcing.
I
So
the
the
new
work
is
is
a
allocation
out
of
the
2012
stormwater
bonds,
there's
a
total
allocation
of
1.8
million
in
that
which
we
spend
at
about
500
000
per
year
per
vendor
with
the
idc
contracts
all
right!
Well,
that's
where
the
work
that's
going
on
the
limehouse
project,
where
we're
up
through
trad
street.
At
this
point,
we
will
likely
spend
somewhere
around
750
to
800
000
on
that
this
year
and
then
next
year
again
and
get
up
to
that
1.8
million.
Just
after
that
right.
H
So
I'm
just
of
course,
we're
going
to
see,
hopefully
some
proof
in
the
pudding
when
we
get
all
the
way
up,
coming
straight
from
from
trad
and
connect
those
dots
and
but
I've
been
told
kind
of
subjectively
that
the
the
drainage
is
better
along
lyme
house
street
since
we've
completed
that
work.
So
if
you
get
up
to
and
wentworth
where,
if
you
all
know
when,
when
we
get
a
heavy
afternoon
shower
or
even
a
mini
rain
bomb,
you
you
have
that
whole
intersection
flooded
and
also
down
at
bufayne
and
coming.
H
A
A
He
would
say
he
spoke
about
the
system
underneath
the
city
and
being
utilized
for
stormwater
and
they
didn't
really
fall
on
willing
ears.
So
I'm
so
happy
that
I
mean
that's
an
asset
that
I
mean
suppose
we
had
to
go
on
and
board
those
things
today.
What
would
it
cost
me?
We
know
what
it
does
is
before
these
tunnels
for
all
these
shafts.
If
you
will,
for
you
know,
september
car
explaining
fishburne
who's,
we.
G
A
I
Yeah
customer,
I
was
going
to
say
that
the
the
item
you
had
we,
we
did
get
added
onto
the
council
agenda
for
the
report
out
of
the
public
works
utilities.
Okay,
it
didn't
get
added
to
the
actual
public
works
utilities
agenda,
so
it
is
on
there
for
the
council
report
out,
but
not
on
there.
For
this
agendas,
two
different
people
put
the
two
different
packages
together,
so
I
apologize
but.
A
I
I
Looking
at
how
could
you
provide
some
flood
relief
to
the
lake
daughter,
particularly
by
reconnecting
historic
drainage
that
was
basically
separated
when
the
glenn
mcconnell
parkway
was
built
and
bringing
that
water
south
through
long
branch,
creek,
basically
out
to
a
different
option?
And
what
happens?
Is
the
church
creek
watershed?
I
As
we
all
know,
there's
so
much
water,
that's
coming
south
and
it
stages
up
for
so
long
in
that
area
that
basically,
the
water
currently
comes
over
the
top
of
the
of
the
spillway
into
lake
daughter
or
from
church
creek
and
the
water
can't
get
out
of
like
daughter,
because
it's
blocked
on
the
south
by
glenn
mcconnell
and
it's
blocked
on
the
north
by
church
creek.
So
we
got
flooding
basically
in
the
residents
that
surround
that
lake,
which
is
quite
a
large
number
of
homes
with
the
shape
of
the
lake.
I
So
one
of
the
options
we
we've
looked
at
and
we've
had
weston
sampson,
do
quite
a
bit
of
modeling
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
on
this
is
basically
raising
the
elevation
of
the
the
dam.
Let's
call
it
on
the
north
of
lake
goddard
to
block
the
water
from
church
creek
from
coming
in
and
then
divert
the
water
instead
south
under
glenn
mcconnell
into
long
branch
creek.
So
that
works
very
well
from
a
hydraulic
hydraulic
standpoint,
because
the
water
level
is
much
lower
in
long
branch.
I
Long
branch
also
has
its
own
flooding
concern,
so
it
involves
having
additional
downstream
improvements,
which
is
the
the
challenge
for
the
long
term
project
that
it's
a
it's
a
pretty
significant
long-term
project.
But
we
do
have
an
opportunity
to
build.
The
first
part
of
the
project
now
is
the
county
is
looking
at
what
is
about
to
go
to
bid
on
widening
glenn,
mcconnell,
parkway
and
adding
a
multi-use
path.
I
How
much
the
total
cost
of
the
project
would
be
to
see
what
the
county
can
contribute
versus
what
the
final
cost
is.
That
would
allow
us
to
get
those
those
pipes
under
the
road
so
that,
as
we
make
the
downstream
improvements,
we'd
already
have
the
pipes
installed
to
basically
improve
flooding
on
lake
daughter
and
actually
on
long
branch
creek.
And
then
we
had
to
run
quite
a
bit
of
modeling
to
verify
that
nothing.
I
We
do
would
cause
a
negative
impact
to
church
creek,
because
that's
we
also
want
to
avoid
that
with
any
improvement
that
we
do
so.
The
the
mechanism
by
bringing
that
water
south,
but
blocking
from
the
north
protects
the
church
creek
residents
from
seeing
any
negative
impact
from
the
project
while
having
benefits
in
lake
daughter
and
in
long
branch.
Creek.