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Description
City of Charleston Committee on Public Works and Utilities 12/20/21
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
vice
chairman,
so
in
this
season
that
we're
embarking
on
of
advent
in
the
preparation
of
holy
season
on
december
25th,
we
asked
the
lord's
blessing
to
enlighten
us
and
shine
upon
him
from
him.
Wisdom,
encourage
strength
and
understanding
and
mutual
respect
for
one
another.
In
his
name
we
pray,
amen.
C
B
B
A
A
This
is
a
timing
effort
on
a
housing
project.
Ms
shaw
johnson
might
want
to
comment
on,
but
what
we're
recommending
is
we've
done
some
fine
after
we
talked
with
chip
mcqueen
that
if
that
test
passes,
as
we
accept
expect
it
to
that,
we
would
then
make
the
recommendation
to
go
on,
but
because
of
the
timing
effort
the
test
was
done
today.
We
won't
probably
have
the
results
until
tomorrow
and
jonathan.
Do
you
have
anything
you
want
to
add
to
that.
D
Well,
I
too
tom
and
thank
you,
tom
and
members
of
the
committee
sure
this
is
67
america
street.
Earlier
this
summer,
council
approved
transfer
of
this
property
to
jjlc
development
company
to
build
six
single-family
detached
homes
once
they
had
gotten
to
the
point
of
closing,
it
was
determined
that
an
easement
was
on
this
property,
and
so
the
atlantic
house
surveying
group
was
the
engineering
firm
that
built
this
small
street
four
pastors
at
the
time
who
has
an
adjoining
property
and
who
the
city
at
one
point
was
looking
to
to
build
this
site.
D
The
permits
were
there,
but
this
easement
issue
is
what
has
caused
an
issue
in
the
delay
of
the
transfer.
The
new
developer
did
not
want
to
take
the
easement
as
part
of
this
because
he
is
building
for
sale,
housing
versus
rental
housing,
and
so
once
he's
done,
building
and
selling
he
wants
to
be
able
to
move
on.
I
hope
I
made
that
clear
enough.
B
A
Mr
vice
chairman,
this
is
the
extension
of
hopewell
drive
and
this
is
just
a
standard
portion
of
that
roadway.
That's
been
extended,
it's
been
constructed
and
this
came
chip.
Mcqueeny
has
done
all
the
due
diligence
on
our
research.
All
the
documents
are
in
order
and
we
recommend
that
for
acceptance
in
the
city's
roadway
system
so
move.
B
Very
second,
all
second,
properly
seconded
all
that
in
favor
hi,
hi
hi,
any
nays
the
eyes
have
it
before
we
go
forward.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
question
about
the
minutes.
I
I
went
back
and
looked
at
some
of
our
old
agendas.
We've
been
deferring
the
october
11
2021
minutes
for
about
three
months
now.
B
A
Mr
first
jim
I
I
will
need
to
check
with
the
clerk's
office
we
get
that
we
get
those
minutes
from
them
and
the
way
we're
supposed
to
present
them-
and
I
know
you're
correct
it
has
been.
I
don't
know
whether
there's
some
questions
that
are
going
back
and
doing
some
research.
Sometimes
when
they
go
back
to
ask
some
questions-
and
I
know
they
have
had
some
people
out
down
there,
but
I
will
get
a
response
to
that
and
send
you
why
we're
doing
that.
B
B
F
This
project
is
currently
in
review
with
our
trc
committee.
It's
an
affordable
housing
project
for
seniors,
located
in
the
east
side,
neighborhood
across
from
martin
park
and
the
mlk
pool,
and
you
can
see-
hopefully
you
can
see
on
this
map-
it's
it's
bounded
by
jackson,
nassau,
harris
and
hanover
streets.
F
So
you
all
probably
remember
the
ordinance.
Well,
it's
my
understanding.
This
ordinance
now
will
let
us,
if
you
pass
this
it'll,
allow
us
to
move
forward
with
dominion,
so
they
can
finalize
the
planning
and
design
they'll
also
create
a
more
detailed
cost
estimate.
It'll
also
allow
dominion
to
give
this
project
priority,
and
it's
also
my
understanding
that
dominion
would
come
back
to
council
later
with
a
final
agreement
to
approve
a
final
design
and
the
land
right
documents,
if
needed
depending
on
that
final
design,
and
so
that
brings
up
the
question
of
easements.
F
F
E
No
worries
thanks
councilman
griffin,
and
you
know
I
was
part
of
that
committee
that
worked
for
you
know
over
a
year
on
this
new
ordinance,
and
you
know
I
think
it's
a
big
improvement
over
the
prior
ordinance
that
we
had
and
I'm
a
little
disappointed
to
hear
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
onboard
somebody
to
help
manage
this.
You
know
tracy,
you
did
a
great
job
with
putting
together
this
matrix.
That
was
supposed
to
help
us.
E
You
know
more
objectively
sort
of
you
know,
identify
smaller
projects
throughout
the
city
to
do
this
kind
of
work,
and
you
know
I
think,
a
big
driving
force
behind
this
whole
effort
was
to
get
power
lines
buried
in
neighborhoods,
particularly
historic,
neighborhoods
and
listen.
I
got
nothing
but
love
for
affordable
housing.
I've
got
nothing
but
love
for
infill
development.
E
E
F
F
C
You,
mr
chairman,
and
and
and
I
think
I
shared
that
concern
councilmember
repel,
but
but
the
the
I
didn't
feel
like
this.
This
amount
was
going
to
be
a
budget
buster,
given
you
know
the
millions
of
dollars
that
that
we
have
available
that
have
been
mostly
sitting
idle
and
need
to
be
used,
and
the
fact
that
you
know
this
does
give
us
the
opportunity
for
the
cost
share
with
with
dominion
that
frankly
otherwise.
C
To
be
perfectly
honest,
I
bet
we'd
be
doing
like
we
did
for
grace
holmes
and
and
and
james
lewis
down
the
street
when
we
just
did
it
out
of
our
own
pocket
a
few
years
ago
and
and
so
in.
In
a
way,
I
I
view
this
as
utilizing
existing
funds
and
and
really
saving
some
money
in
the
long
haul
by
by
utilizing
our
agreement
with
dominion
and
then
given
the
fact
that
the
trees
are
an
issue
given
the
fact
that
this
is
affordable.
C
C
This
neighborhood
didn't
have
their
act
together
20
years
ago
in
order
to
come
forward
with
an
application
like
some
of
the
other
neighborhoods
did
so
I
add
all
that
together
and
I
I
think
it's
worthy
of
us
to
pursue
and
approve
this.
I
I
would
share
that.
We
we
interviewed
and
selected
somebody
for
the
position,
but
unfortunately
that
individual
decided
at
the
last
moment
that
he's
he's
going
to
be
moving
out
of
state
for
family
reasons
and
other
employment
opportunities.
C
So
we
we
just
got
to
start
over
and
and
we
we
have
that
position
approved,
we
just
gotta
run
through
the
application
process,
one
more
time
so
so,
and
we
we
also,
I
think,
are
close
to
finalizing
the
ansenberger
first
part
of
the
project,
because
we
did
identify
that
a
last
easement
that
we
needed.
So
this
this
is
doesn't
in
any
way
hold
up
any
of
those
other
projects
that
that
that
are
ready.
Anyway,
I
don't
mean
to
carry
on,
but
I
I
I
do
think
it's
reasonable.
C
A
Of
projects
for
you,
as
we
get
past
this
one
one
is
on
old
town
road
in
front
of
charlestown
landing,
we'll
have
a
new
county
park.
This
will
be
part
of
our
park
system
over
there
great
opportunity
to
beautify
that
part,
which
is
the
birthplace
of
south
carolina
and
there's
a
neighborhood
in
san
hurst,
he's
been
clamoring
for
help
on
this
as
well,
and
they
were
low
on
the
totem
pole
a
while
back
they'd
love
to
get
some
attention
and
love
in
their
neighborhood.
So
you
need
any
incentive.
A
I've
got
those
two
places
for
you,
where's
ashley.
I
know
we
did
a
lot
of
work.
Councilmember
appel
pointed
this
out.
When
we
dedicated
station
number
11
and
the
beautification,
we
did
with
those
power
lines
being
lowered
and
buried.
So
here's
an
opportunity
to
replicate
those
efforts
as
well.
So
if
I
can
push
those
up
the
agenda,
while
we're
waiting
for
this
position
to
be
filled
and
talk
to
you
about
it
and
let's
get
the
ball
rolling.
B
And
appreciate
all
those
comments,
I
just
want
to
add
that
if
you
look
online
in
our
agenda-
and
you
look
at
the
way
that
this
item
is
worded,
it
doesn't
reference
any
pricing
or
anything
in
the
item
itself
and
it
references
an
exhibit
a
and
unfortunately,
the
public
is
not
able
to
access
that
exhibit
because
only
the
agenda
itself.
The
first
couple
pages
are
printed.
B
So
I
don't
like
voting
on
items,
especially
with
a
price
tag
where
our
citizens
are
not
able
to
also
view
any
of
the
amendment
or
any
of
the
additional
information
on
the
exhibit.
So
if
you
don't
mind
tracy,
just
going
through
the
that
amen,
that
exhibit
just
explain
the
agreement
one
more
time,
just
so
that
that
everybody
understands
it
because
they're
not
able
to
see
it
as
we
are
with
our
agenda.
F
Yeah,
so
chip
actually
created
the
ordinance.
Unfortunately
he's
not
with
us,
but
my
understanding
is
this
ordinance
is
is,
is
just
like
the
ones
that
were
created
for
those
that
came
through
the
process
before
when
it
was
by
the
neighborhood
petitioning,
and
so
none
of
those
ordinances
had
prices
with
those
either.
F
All
it
did
is
establish
those
areas
as
a
non-standard
service
fund
district,
and
that
just
opens
the
door
for
us
to
work
with
dominion
to
finalize
those
plans
and
then
try
to
bring
that
final
plan
with
all
the
costs
back
to
city
council
for
final
approval.
So
that's
my
understanding
of
how
it
works.
F
F
G
We've
engaged
with
tracy
to
try
to
identify
some
plans
to
identify
all
of
these
areas
that
are
to
be
that
would
be
part
of
this
conversion
project,
starting
up
on
the
the
top
left
corner
of
the
site.
There's
an
overhead
pole
with
a
primary
line:
that's
providing
service
to
some
homes
along
the
harris
street
corridor.
G
Moving
a
little
further
down
nassau
street,
we
have
some
another
poll
with
service
to
some
homes
on
nassau
street.
That
would
be
part
of
the
conversion
and
then,
when
moving
east
on
jackson
street,
there's
a
proposed
overhead
line
to
provide
service
to
the
development
that
would
be
instead
placed
underground
to
establish
the
new
service
to
the
development
and
then
just
past
that
at
the
intersection
of
hanover
street
and
jackson
street,
there
is
an
overhead
line.
B
B
C
C
B
H
H
So
again,
this
is
just
a
a
brief
update
on
four
projects
that
we've
completed
in
the
last
quarter
of
2021.
I'm
not
going
to
read
them
I'll,
go
through
them,
one
of
the
time
a
little
more
detail
again.
This
is
just
a
brief
update.
This
again
is
the
small
project
allocation
that
the
council
has
approved
the
last
few
years
of
a
million
dollars
per
year
out
of
the
stormwater
utility
budget.
The
operations
account
towards
the
progression
of
small
projects.
A
H
H
We
completed
quite
a
bit
of
pipe
system
rehab.
We
basically
went
through
and
cleaned
out
the
existing
drainage
system.
You
can
see
some
of
it
on
the
bottom
left
in
a
very
small
graphic
there
and
then
went
back
and
installed
two
new
catch
basins
and
used
new
pipes
to
tie
those
into
the
existing
system
and
then
put
in
two
check
valves
as
while
we
were
there,
because
there
was
certainly
some
impact
from
tidal
situations.
H
In
some
of
these
very
high
tides,
we've
been
getting
the
last
few
years,
you'll
see
some
pictures
of
the
work.
That's
all
now
completed
accomplished
and
returned
to
full
road
surface,
and
it's
worked
well
through
the
most
recent
set
of
high
tides.
We
had
I'm
in
rainstorm,
so
generally
successful
project
see
next
project.
H
This
was
the
devonshire
outfall
cleaning,
so
you
can
see
in
this
case
we
did
about
600
feet
of
channel
reestablishment.
This
is
where
the
the
marsh
had
basically
fully
accreted
back
through.
Where
a
channel
had
once
stood
on
the
left
most
picture,
you
can
see
what
basically,
what
the
channel
had
looked
like
prior
to
the
work
we
were
accomplishing
on
the
very
right.
H
You
can
see
the
aerial
map
showing
where
the
channel
once
was
and
where
we
were
reestablishing
it
and
how
it
ties
back
into
the
existing
drainage
network
and
channels
that,
once
it
gets
into
the
tidal
marsh
area,
the
center
picture
is
what
it
looks
like
following
hydro
excavation
work,
which
is
the
method
we
use.
You
can
see,
there's
incredibly
little
disruption,
there's
still
trees
right
on
the
edge
of
the
channel
marsh
grass
and
things
basically
stay
put.
It
just
removes
the
sediment,
that's
accumulated
in
the
actual
channel
itself
and
allows
that
flow
to
to
resume.
H
We
installed
about
415
feet
of
sort
of
an
under
drain
pipe
system
that
we've
used
in
a
few
other
areas
again.
These
are
these:
are
backyard
systems,
so
they're
generally
much
more
limited
for
access,
we're
trying
to
a
combination
of
sort
of
french
drain
to
drain
out
some
of
the
soggier
areas,
but
also
still
have
inlets
for
the
heavier
rainstorms,
but
there's
often
not
room
to
kind
of
get
in
and
put
in
traditional,
concrete
pipe
systems
of
which
would
need
a
larger
easement
and
be
much
more
disruptive
to
the
existing
built
neighborhood.
H
So
we
installed
about
10
catch
basins.
We
also
put
in
a
secondary
part
of
the
project.
It
became
apparent
once
we
were
out
there
and
we
brought
to
council
as
a
change
order,
which
is
a
40
feet
of
french
drain,
to
basically
prevent
some
of
the
road
damage
that
had
been
occurring,
and
it's
done
a
great
job
since
we've
installed
it
on
this
project.
We've
been
out
there
through
a
few
of
these
rainstorms
much
drier
residents
very
happy
again,
you
can
see.
H
This
is
about
720
feet
of
channel
cleaning.
This
one
wasn't
a
full
reestablishment
at
the
level
of
devonshire
was
more
of
a
heavy
maintenance
effort,
and
what
had
happened
in
this
case,
as
you
can
see
in
the
bottom
left,
is
actually
a
drone
photo
of
a
basically
a
utility
line
that
comes
across
the
marsh
there,
and
you
can
see
that
debris
has
accumulated
against
that
utility
line
and
prevented
water
from
being
able
to
flow
out,
and
that
then
caused
the
channel
to
silt
in
and
have
some
significant
issues.
H
So
the
center
picture
is
showing
that
where
that
channel
is
and
the
re-establishment
of
that
channel,
then
the
pictures
on
the
right
again
are
what
the
channel
looks
like
after
it's
been
hydro
excavated
again
very
minimal
impacts,
kind
of
a
incredibly
high
high
value
of
impact
in
terms
of
storm
water,
but
very
low
ecological
impact
in
terms
of
damage
to
marsh
or
any
kind
of
impact
from
the
cleaning
itself.
So
those.
D
H
H
We
do
still
have
a
series
of
other
projects
we've
completed.
I
should
say
back
up,
we've
completed
all
of
our
2020
projects
and
we
are
complete
with
the
design
of
those
four
or
I'm
sorry.
With
construction
of
those
four
of
the
2021
projects,
we
are
into
design
on
4,
5,
6,
7,
8,
9,
10,
11,
12.,
12
additional
projects
and
then
are
basically
in
the
early
stages
on
two
or
three
additional
projects
that
will
be
continuing
out
over
the
next
couple
of
months.
H
A
Thank
you,
mr
vice
chairman,
and
I
just
want
to
say
publicly.
This
is
just
another
example
of
our
obligation
to
our
community
and
how
this
project
is
working
and
matt
said
it
in
one
of
these
projects
that
it
has
such
a
tremendous
impact
on
these
communities,
and
it's
not
a
a
big
ticket
item
as
far
as
money
that
we're
spending
compared
to
other
major
projects
throughout
the
city.
But
it
really
does
impact
our
communities,
and
I
know
that
these
residents
are
appreciative
of
matt.
A
The
work
that
you
do
and
those
are
not
any
of
those
are
not
in
my
district,
but
I
just
the
overall
work
that
you
do.
Citywide
is
really
important,
and
I
know
the
other
ones
are
in
the
pipeline
so
to
speak
or
in
my
district
matt,
so
looking
forward
to
updates
on
the
other
ones
as
they
come
along
in
district
9..
Thank
you,
mr
vice
chairman,
great.
C
C
For
that
excellent
report,
glad
to
we're
taking
bites
of
the
elephant
and
taking
care
of
them,
would
you
mind
I
should
have
asked
went
before
you
started.
Just
briefly
remind
us-
and
I
know
some
of
these
you
did
with
in-house
and
others.
You
might
have
hired
more
out
but
remind
us
about
the
approximate
dollar
value
of
each
of
those
four
jobs.
C
H
I've
got
my
spreadsheet
on
my
other
screen,
which
makes
my
neck
hurt
to
look
at
both
screens
back
back
and
forth.
The
sorry,
the
first
project,
the
concord
street
drainage
improvement,
the
one
over
at
kind
of
boyce's
wharf
address
wharf
area.
That
was
that
was
in-house
design
that
we
we
bid
out
and
hired
a
construction
firm
to
do
the
to
do
the
actual
construction
work
that
came
in
at
36
000,
just
over
36
thousand
dollars.
H
The
devonshire
outfall
cleaning
was
a
more
extensive
permanent
effort.
That
was
because
it
was
basically
reestablishment
of
an
outfall
that
involved
army
corps
of
engineer,
permitting
dhek
permanent,
a
multi-year
permanent
effort
that
culminated
in
this
clinging
work.
Hydro
excavation
is
incredibly
low,
ecological
impact,
but
it
is
expensive-
and
it's
very
in
demand
at
the
moment,
with
the
market
not
so
much
normally
for
marsh
cleaning,
but
normally
for
pipe
cleaning.
We
use
the
same
thing
for
pipe
clean,
pipe
cleaning
around
the
city.
H
Again,
the
ditch
work,
the
french
drains,
the
sock
drains
that
one
was
in-house
design
with
a
hired
low-bid
contractor
that
one
was
about
63
dollars
and
then
the
burns
downs
out
fall
cleaning
because
of
how
far
we
had
to
get
out
into
the
marsh
to
clean,
where
the
utility
lines
come
through,
which
is
over
700
and
something
feet
into
the
into
the
marsh.
For
a
relatively
difficult
access.
Point
again:
hydro
excavation
a
lot
of
hand
work
for
some
of
the
clearing
that
was
also
given
thousand
dollars
for
that
cleaning
as
well.
H
H
How
much
also
about
145
000?
That's
part
of
the
reason
we've
been
working
with
senator
sand
with
the
army
corps
of
engineers
and
with
detectives
here,
I'm
looking
at
other
methodologies
for
cleaning
or
other
more
straightforward
ways
to
do
maintenance,
because
those
are
those
are
expensive,
they're,
incredibly
high
impact
projects,
because
an
entire
neighborhood's
drainage
system
doesn't
function.
H
If
you
don't
have
a
clean
outfall,
but
they
are,
they
are
relatively
expensive
and
burn.
Sound
is
a
good
example
where
back
in
the
mid-2000s,
the
city
and
I
have
to
pull
the
exact
numbers
mayor,
but
the
city
spent
somewhere
around
three
or
four
million
dollars,
basically
completely
redoing,
that
entire
drainage
system,
through
those
through
those
neighborhoods
in
that
area
and
they
were
experiencing
some
pretty
severe
flooding
the
last
couple
of
years,
as
that
outfall
system
basically
kept
getting
more
and
more
impacted
by
some
of
the
the
clogs
at
the
utility
outfall.
H
So
it's
part
of
our
our
need
for
operations
and
maintenance.
It's
just
finding
a
way
to
increase
our
efficiency
on
those
is
going
to
be
important
as
we
keep
moving
forward.
That's
something
we've
been
working
on
as
we
as
we
clean
them
right,
but
again
compared
compared
to
some
of
the
multi-million
dollar
capital
projects.
These
are
relatively
inexpensive,
straightforward
projects
that
we
can
normally
accomplish
within
about
a
year
on
a
budget
of
around
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
project.
E
Thank
you,
councilman
griffin.
I
just
want
to
thank
matt.
Thank
the
committee.
Thank
everybody
for
the
devonshire
and
burnsdown's
outfall
work.
This
is
just
going
to
be
tremendously
appreciated
by
those
neighborhoods
and
help
these
storm
water
drainage
systems
that
we
have
in
place
function
effectively.
I
mean
burns.
E
Downs,
has
a
great
modern
drainage
system
that
was
put
into
place
about
a
decade
or
so
or
maybe
15
years
or
so
before
I
got
into
office
and
it's
going
gonna
work
a
whole
lot
better,
because
now
the
water's
got
somewhere
to
go,
and
it's
just
great
bang
for
the
buck.
Efficient
work
as
councilman
shea
pointed
out.
So
just
thank
you
appreciate
it.
H
Yeah,
thank
you,
councilman
griffin.
This
was
an
item.
You
would
request
us
to
bring
to
look
at
for
consideration
in
the
2022
funding
cycle.
I
just
put
a
very
brief
couple
of
slides
together
to
give
a
reminder
of
the
project,
even
though
we've
discussed
it
previously
at
committee.
Let
me
make
that
a
little
bit
bigger.
H
H
H
H
The
challenge
that
we
ran
into
when
we
looked
at
this
was
that
the
easement
somewhat,
unfortunately,
for
our
purposes,
splits
the
two
property
lines
very
effectively
right
where
the
tree
line
has
grown
up
with
the
berm
sort
of
between
the
two
property
lines.
So
we
we
did
look
at
an
improvement
to
try
to
help
convey
the
water
from
this
upstream
wetter
lower
line
property
down
through
into
that
golf
course.
Ditch.
H
We
did
come
up
with
with
two
major
options:
option,
one
being
basically
that
we
would
work
within
the
existing
easement
to
clear
the
trees
and
put
in
a
ditch
system,
which
would
be
again
relatively
straightforward,
just
larger
work
with
the
size
of
the
trees
or
the
pine
trees,
but
but
relatively
straightforward
option.
Two
is
trying
to
obtain
additional
easement
from
some
of
the
property
owners
to
kind
of
shift
the
easement
away
from
the
trees
and
into
the
more
green
space
areas
of
the
yard.
H
We
did
talk
to
some
of
the
homeowners.
They
had
been
supportive
of
the
upstream
owner
sort
of
tying
his
own
drainage
into
their
system,
but
they
were
uncertain
about
dedicating
more
easement
over
into
the
city
and
kind
of
encumbering
their
property
closer
to
their
homes.
So
we
didn't
really
pursue
that
option
in
more
detail
and
you
could
install
either
a
ditch
system
or
a
french
drain.
With
that
option,
I
should
say
if
you,
if
you
have
that
more
open
land,
you
could
go
to
a
french
drain
which
would
be
more
expensive.
F
H
Less
impactful,
if
someone's
obtaining
or
granting
you
more
easement
costs
on
this
one
is
hard
to
determine
right
now,
a
lot
of
it's
just
going
to
depend
on
what
those
trees
come
in
at
as
an
estimate.
If
we
do
removal,
if
we
were
to
go
to
the
tree
route,
you're,
probably
on
the
less
expensive
end,
if
we
went
with
the
french
drain
system,
probably
on
the
more
expensive
end
with
tree
removal.
H
H
H
I
would
have
to
look
councilman
griffin.
We
honestly
have
not
finalized
our
list
for
the
2022
allocation.
We
normally
wait
till
we
get
the
final
reading
of
budget
at
council
tomorrow,
so
we
know
exactly
how
much
money
we're
working
with
which
tentatively
right
now
is
set
up
a
million
dollars
to
determine
which
projects
we'll
recommend.
We
do.
H
C
So
I
believe
our
discussion
when
this
came
to
us
before,
regardless
of
any
other
projects
in
the
district,
was
that
we
were
supportive
of
trying
to
move
this
forward
and
and
and
and
get
get
some
relief
for.
The
gentleman
and
matt
help
help
me.
Maybe
I
just
missed
it-
would
both
of
the
the
open,
ditch
or
the
french
drain
be
possible
without
the
additional
easement?
Or
did
you
have
to
have
additional
easement
to
do
the
french
drain?
C
H
H
H
You
don't
have
to
remove
the
trees
if
you
could
obtain
more
easement
away
from
the
trees
into
people's
yards,
and
that
was
the
idea
with
the
french
train.
Was
that
it's
less
it's
a
less
obvious
impact.
People
might
want
to
keep
the
trees
and
have
a
french
train
in
their
yard.
The
risk
is
always
that
an
easement
still
limits
what
you
can
do.
You
can't
put
a
shed
up
necessarily
you.
H
You
can't
build
up
a
pool
or
a
major
concrete
structure
in
the
easement,
so
that
that
tends
to
be
people's
hesitancy
with
with
granting
those
additional
easements
right,
but
it's
possible.
I
mean
it
would
probably
only
be
another
10
feet
of
easement
it's
just
whether
the
homeowners
will
offer
that
or
not.
They
were
not
interested.
The
first
time
we
talked
to
them,
but
we've
had
another
couple
years
of
relatively
wet
weather,
it's
possible
that
there'll
be
some
interest
and
we
can
certainly
reach
back
out
to
them.
B
But
this
is
an
issue
that's
going
on
for
several
years.
That
is
going
to
provide
some
relief
and-
and
I
can
totally
understand
you
know
why
he
just
feels
so
frustrated
and-
and
I
know
that
it
would
be
a
good
thing
if
we
could
really
do
that,
and
I
hope
this
committee
will
not
allow
that
just
to
slip
into
the
cracks.
A
B
Well,
he's
actually
a
little
bit
further
off
the
golf
course,
so
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
the
golf
course
will
come
into
play
on
that,
but
I
just
appreciate
y'all's
support
and
trying
to
work
out
a
sensible
solution
that
doesn't
cost
an
arm
and
a
leg,
but
something
that
continues
to
tell
this
gentleman
that
we're
we're
going
to
do
something
for
him.
So
I
appreciate
that
I
think
I
saw
the
dilemma
I
was
reading
through
the
minutes
again
from
our
last
meeting.
We
have
already
voted
on
october
11th
minutes.
B
They
do
not
need
to
be
deferred.
We
needed
to
defer
the
november
22nd
minutes.
Those
were
not
voted
on
at
the
last
meeting,
and
so
they
have
not
been
voted
on
again
today.
Velvet
do
you
know
whether
or
not
they
are
ready?
They
weren't
in
the
package,
so
I'm
guessing
that
y'all
are
still
working
on
those.