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City of Charleston Committee on Public Works and Utilities 2/27/23
B
C
Thank
you
Mr
chairman
and,
as
you
alluded
to
earlier
in
our
real
estate
committee
meeting,
our
director
Tom
O'brien's
lost
his
wife
Carolyn.
So
let's
take
a
moment
of
brief
silence
and
her
memory.
I
went
to
the
website
to
look
at
her
obituary.
She
died
awfully
young,
it
seems
unexpected
and
I
think
it'd
be
appropriate
if
we
just
spent
a
few
moments
in
silence
in
her
memory.
Thank.
B
C
In
the
in
the
prayer
that
we
all
know
very
well,
the
Eternal
rash
kind
of
demo
Lord
the
Perpetual
light
shine
upon
them,
made
The
Souls
of
all
the
faithful
departed
to
the
mercy
of
God
Rest
in
Peace,
amen.
B
Thank
you,
councilman
approval,
the
February
13th
Minister.
We
have
a
motion
move.
B
Moving
the
second
any
questions
on
those
minutes.
Hearing
none
Joe,
please
say:
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Thank
you.
Now,
the
temporary
encroachments
you
know
normally
that
would
be
Mr
O'brien
Matt.
Are
you
going
to
comment.
E
B
Know
most
of
the
time
it's
just
for
information,
yeah.
E
So
there's
nothing.
I
talked
with
Tom
earlier.
He
said
there
was
nothing
out
of
the
norm,
just
the
minor
stuff.
You
know,
Waters
just
to
use
Sprinklers
and
just
the
normal
stuff.
He
said
nothing
out
of
the
norm.
All.
B
Right
great,
thank
you
matter
of
fact.
Thank
you
for
reaching
out
to
Mr
O'brien,
also
yeah
G1,
Environmental,
Services,
Mr,
altar.
E
Yeah
so
Environmental
Services
is
running
on
time
ran
on
time.
Last
week
we
have
placed
the
order
for
our
two
new
side
load
garbage
trucks.
We
expect
delivery
of
those
in
June
July,
as
our
partner
in
Somerville
that
we're
buying
the
trucks
from
has
made
sure
that
we
are
at
the
top
of
the
list.
E
In
fact,
one
of
our
trucks
is
already
being
built,
so
we
should
be
getting
those
here,
hopefully
soon,
the
second
glutton's
on
the
on
the
street,
so
we're
working
both
sides
of
King
Street
now
with
both
buttons
other
than
that
everything
is
moving
along
as
scheduled.
B
Help
me
out,
when
you
say
Glutton
what
type.
E
E
So
so
the
chassis
manufacturer,
Dennis
Eagle,
is
located
in
in
Somerville
and
they
build
them
there
and
they
want
their
trucks
in
their
backyard.
So
they
we.
You
know
we
bought
two
last
year,
so
they're
partnering
with
us
and
as
long
as
we
you
know,
buy
from
them
they're
going
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
trucks
that
we
need
when
we
need
them.
Thank.
B
You
serious
great
relationship
building,
listen,
we
recorded
last
meeting
about
everything
being
on
time
and
I
got
to
tell
you.
Everybody
was
over
the
top
on
that.
So
again,
thank
you.
Your
work
and
your
team
coordination
on
that
each
one
Mr
fountain
down
area
up
project
update.
Please.
D
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen.
D
D
Yeah
I,
know
that
Council
votes
on
these
and
allocates
money,
and
then
sometimes
we
don't
always
do
as
well
of
a
job
as
we
should
coming
back
and
letting
everyone
know
how
the
project
went
and
what
the
situation
was
we're,
trying
to
make
sure
we're
closing
the
loop
and
providing
information
on
the
finished
product,
not
just
the
request
for
finding
the
beginning
of
the
project.
D
This
area
is
constantly
shade.
I
think
alluded
to
has
quite
a
history
of
property,
flooding,
sanitary
overflow
issues,
there's
a
large
section
of
impervious
area
from
one
of
the
local
shopping
centers
that
drains
through
the
neighborhood
causes
a
lot
of
problems.
F
D
Had
put
this
in
for
a
small
project
allocation
funding,
hired
Thomas
Nuttin,
who
came
in
and
did
some
survey
work
and
some
basic
design
work
to
identify
choke
points
in
the
neighborhood
we
took
that
information
and
then
sealed
City
Field
operations
forces
went
through
realigned
the
canal
restored
some
pipe
system,
so
I'll
show
you
a
couple
pictures
of
that
in
a
minute
and
then
we
coordinated
with
CWS,
who
is
also
going
to
build
their
and
they're
just
starting
construction.
D
Now
their
new
sewer
lift
station
that
area
to
serve
this
neighborhood
lenovar
to
help
alleviate
more
of
the
SSO
issues
as
well.
So
it's
a
good,
a
good
area
of
collaborative
work
going
on
just
for
for
context
of
where
we're
talking
about
this
is
kind
of
the
Ashley
Landing
area
here
somewhere,
Street
being
just
to
the
north,
which
actually
drains
to
a
slightly
different
set
of
drainage
systems.
But
you
can
see
the
works
in
the
shopping
center
that
comes
through
the
neighborhood,
but
also
looking
to
the
South.
D
Basically,
what
the
city
did
was
come
back,
Mason,
Thomas,
Hutton's
recommendations
from
modeling
work,
realign
this
drainage
canal
and
reopen
the
three
box
culverts
which
actually
feed
pipes
rather
than
saying
as
open
box
culverts
under
Old
Town
Road.
So
we
acquired
some
drainage
easement
from
some
willing
to
participate.
D
Homeowners
in
the
area
for
free
dedication,
realign
this
Bank
on
the
drainage
shelf
and
then
cleaned
up
the
geometry
of
the
canal
to
help
the
water
flow
more
smoothly
into
those
reopened
pipes
then
came
back
through
the
neighborhood
and
cleaned
out
the
existing
pipes
that
convey
most
of
the
water
into
this
well
so
far,
working
much
better,
we'll
certainly
see
how
it
holds
up
through
the
hurricane
season,
but
the
modeling
indicates
it's
likely
to
provide
a
really
significant
range
Improvement
in
everything,
except
for
the
most,
the
most
intense.
You
know,
horrific
level
hurricanes.
D
A
D
Have
a
second
pipe
added
or
that
pipe
could
be
upsized.
It's
a
significantly
more
expensive
item.
That's
where
we'd
kick
into
probably
either
its
own
small
project
allocation
for
that
work
or
potentially
a
capital
project,
depending
on
how
much
we'd
have
to
remove
to
get
to
that
pipe.
The
modeling
suggests
that
that
pipe
is
not
the
problem,
even
though
it
certainly
stands
out
as
a
potential
choke
point.
So
what
we're
doing
is
the
the
improvements
that
the
modeling
kind
of
calls
out
is
saying.
D
This
is
the
most
likely
current
problems
where
this
entryway
into
these
culverts
and
reopening
these
culverts.
What
we'll
do
now
is
Monitor
it
during
different
types
of
events
and
see
if
that
pipe
is
causing
an
issue.
Now
that
the
downstream
section
is
no
longer
problematic,
and
if
it
is
then
we'll
come
back
to
counsel
and
make
that
recommendation.
C
C
Any
of
those
demolition
of
the
existing
buildings
on
Ashley
Landing
in
any
new
construction
is
going
to
have
to
be
involved
with
the
current
flood
management
plans
or
updated
stormwater
management
plans,
and
so
and
I.
Remember
this
mayor
very
vividly
in
our
early
days
when,
after
you
got
elected
in
2015
and
when
I
got
elected,
2015
we're
in
that
conference,
room
in
City
Hall
with
councilman
wearing
and
I
think
Captain
councilmember
Moody.
C
We
were
talking
about
empirical
surfaces
and
as
soon
as
those
out
buildings
were
constructed
on
Ashley
Landing,
it
seemed
to
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
correlation
to
this
at
all
that
it
seemed
to
have
an
impact
on
this.
This
flooding
issue,
so
I
just
want
to
commit
Matt
he's
been
very
we've,
been
very
dogged
on
this
and
this
project.
C
Even
though
it's
called
a
small
project,
it
is
it
I,
hopefully,
will
have
such
a
huge
impact,
and
you
saw
the
map
and
you
saw
the
general
geographic
area,
that
this
is
going
to
be
coping
with.
You
know,
and
if
there
are
any
work,
that's
going
to
be
done
on
Ashley
Landing
with
those
proposed
plans,
those
I
think
players
will
have
to
beat
up
to
our
new
standards
and
not
aggravate,
but
actually
maybe
even
help
alleviate
some
of
the
the
other
problems
out
there.
D
You're
absolutely
correct
councilman
change
similar
to
the
recent
Redevelopment
work
over
in
the
doctors
parcel
in
West
Ashley.
If
this
property
has
land
disturbance,
they
will
have
to
do
in
the
current
manual
in
a
special
protection
area,
a
20
reduction
in
how
much
water
they
put
off
into
that
drainage
system.
So
they'll
have
to
make
an
improvement
as
part
of
any.
B
Right
so
right
now
that
site
that
acid
town
landing
I,
don't
believe
it
has
it
does
it
have
any
retention
on
that
side
right.
B
B
Does
it
before,
leaving
that
site
that
shot
right
there
does
it
make
sense?
Obviously,
it's
good
if
we
can
get
to
the
developer
to
do
it.
B
Any
spots
in
there
that
that
will
not
be
done,
for
example,
where
the
I'm
just
looking
at
to
the
I,
guess
left
of
it
right
where
it
says:
Ashley
Landing,
one
I.
C
Councilman
were
wearing
the
the
areas
would
be
destroyed
or
closer
to
Old
Town,
Road,
Ashley,
Landing,
three
correct
yeah.
B
B
Does
it
make
sense,
in
particular
the
Ashley
Landing
one
area,
because
if
those
apartments
get
built,
then
certainly
they're
gonna
have
to
take
care
of
their
retention,
but
that
actually
Landing
wonders
to
make
any
any
opportunity,
maybe
to
partner
with
the
developer.
We
get
a
little
bit
more
retention
on
that
previous
site,
so.
D
It
does,
it
does
make
sense,
sometimes
for
the
city
Side.
It
is
frequently
a
challenge
for
the
developers
due
to
the
value
of
the
underlying
property,
for
them
to
risk
any
encumbrance
of
that
property
for
for
a
pay
rate
that
we
can
afford,
basically
on
Improvement
projects,
but
it
we
certainly
will
make
that
offer
to
discuss
potential
additional
work.
They
could
do.
A
A
You
Mr
chairman,
Matt
I've,
been
watching
as
at
Dowden
project
has
progressed
and
it
it.
It
has
a
great
visual
impact
as
you're
riding
by
that
you've
got
a
lot
more
room
for
the
water
to
to
go
and
to
go.
But
I'm
curious.
Your
comment
about
the
Box
culverts.
You
say
that
one
or
more
of
those
was
actually
covered
up
and
and
the
project
cleared
cleared
cleared
the
way
for
it
to
go,
and
then
secondly,
is
that
title
tidally
influences
the
salt.
Water
come
up
all
the
way
across
the
street.
A
D
The
the
tide
does
not
come
across
into
that
section
of
the
canal.
You
can
see
on
the
vegetation,
we
don't
have
any
of
the
marsh
grass
or
any
of
the
typical
there's.
There's
typical,
like
lawn
grass
growing
in
the
canal,
very
low
salt
tolerance.
So
it
is
high
enough.
We
don't
see
that
impact.
D
What
was
happening
basically
is
the
it
looked
like
the
canal
had
either
eroded
or
shifted
over
time
and
just
moved
South
kind
of
away
from
where
the
the
northern
most
Culvert
was,
and
the
culverts
are
a
little
bit
deceiving
and
that
they're
they
look
like
box
culverts,
but
they
actually
lead
to
pipes
under
the
road
because
of
the
utility
complex
in
the
area.
It's
really
as
big
as
they
look
they're
much
I
mean
they're
still
sizable
pipes
but
they're
much
smaller
than
what
they
appear
to
be.
D
So
we
were
able
to
uncover
some
additional
pipes
and
access
where
the
the
water
basically
can
flow
down
the
canal
and
smoothly
enter
the
pipes
instead
of
flowing
down
the
canal
and
trying
to
like
turn
a
corner
which,
when
you
do
that
it
creates
like
turbulence-
and
you
don't
get
very
much
flow
surprisingly
in
Drainage
Systems.
So
that
was
that
was
one
of
the
major
modeling
improvements
or
the
improvements
of
modeling
suggested
was
cleaning
up
the
smoothness
of
that
entry
and
then
yes,
uncovering
the
pipe
certainly
provides
some
additional
benefit
as
well.
D
I've
checked
the
exact
numbers.
We
did
a
lot
of
the
work
in
house
which
drastically
reduced
how
much
money
we
were
spending
on
the
project,
but
I'd
say
between
materials
and
the
Consulting
fees
were
probably
on
the
order
of
sixty
thousand
dollars.
Something
like
that.
We
certainly
spend
quite
a
bit
of
if
you
count
the
money
that
we
have
budget
into
our
operations.
D
Grooming,
our
construction
crew
spent
weeks
working
on
this
project,
so
it's
a
that
would
be
a
substantial
low,
M
cost
you're,
probably
looking
at
another
forty
thousand
dollars
or
so
of
City
efforts
on
the
project.
But
again
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
where
a
a
moderate
amount
of
money
can
make
a
very
large
Improvement
to
drainage
in
a
large
area.
Sometimes.
A
Well,
thank
you
and
Mr
chairman.
That's
just
what
we
as
a
city
in
your
committee,
have
been
pursuing
over
the
last
few
years
ago
to
focus
on
these
kind
of
projects
that
don't
I
mean
it
may
seem
to
the
neighbors
that
it
took
us
a
while
to
get
this
done,
but
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
to
to
got
done
in
a
relatively
short
period
of
time,
for
reasonable
amount
of
money
and
for
the
people
in
the
pretty
sizable
drainage
area
can
provide
some
real
relief.
So
back
to
everybody
here,
thanks
I.
B
Agree
little
to
what
you
said:
no
well
go
back
to
the
picture
with
the
culverts
under
the
road
in
the
ditch
side,
by
side
yeah.
Well,
that
ditch
eventually
drained
you
know,
drained.
E
D
So
it
it
does
drain,
it
doesn't
drain
completely
dry
generally,
based
on
where
the
groundwater
table
is
in
the
area
and
the
depth
of
the
the
ditch,
but
it
you
can
see
the
entrance.
The
culverts
are
dry
right,
so
some
of
it
is
just
the
the
how
the
groundwater
set
up,
how
that
Canal's
been
graded
over
the
years
back
filling
a
canal
like
that
is
really
challenging.
You
have
to
pump
the
whole
thing
dry
and
fill
it
to
drain
it
out.
So
instead,
this
is
basically
deep
enough.
D
You
don't
get
you
don't
really
get
a
mosquito
population.
You
get
more
of
like
an
open
water
feature
like.
D
C
Just
one
other
point,
Mr
chairman:
so
where
were
you
looking
at
the
this
Culvert
heading
towards
Old,
Town,
Road
and
those
clump
of
trees
to
the
left
of
that?
C
Throw
the
back
that
way,
just
to
show
them
with
a
small
Improvement?
Does
a
small
change
does
when
the
Charleston
Water
Systems
have
put
a
pump
station
right
there?
They
had
blocked
the
drainage.
Ditch.
You
can't
see
it
in
this
picture
coming
towards
us
that
ditch
right
there
now
that's
got
it
that
ditch
backed
up
and
the
houses
behind
that
you
can
see
that
in
the
other
photograph
right
would
flood
that
cul-de-sac.
It
didn't
cost
us
anything
to
get
that
fixed.
C
It
just
had
to
go
back
and
then
open
and
move
that
pump
station
up
a
little
bit.
It
stopped
flooding,
it
stopped
the
flooding.
So
I
was
paying
attention
to
these
details
on
things
that
we
can
improve
on,
and
some
of
them
are
not
that
expensive.
But
I
can
tell
you
that
the
homeowners
greatly
appreciated
the
opportunity
to
get
that
flood
water
out
of
there
out
of
their
garage
in
their
living
room
and
in
bins,
and
it
was
just
a
very
simple
little
fix
and
it
would
match
point
with
all
this.
C
Is
it
took
a
little
while
to
get
us
all
together
we
had
to
do
a
study
and
we
really
thought
it
was
going
to
be
a
much
more
expensive
proposition,
but
it
turned
out
I
mean
to
do
this
for
that
money
and
the
improvements
we
are
expecting
out
of
this
really
speaks
volumes
of
what
the
attention
to
detail
can
add
to
a
whole
whole
neighborhood,
neighborhoods
I
should
say
it.
B
D
Yeah,
thank
you
for
sure
man.
So
this
Force
acres
is
the
phase
two
of
the
drainage
project
that
connects
into
the
Bikeway.
It
was
the
phase
one
of
the
Forest
Acres
project.
We
started
construction
on
this
about
three
three
and
a
half
months
ago,
four
months
ago,
so
I
wanted
to
give
a
quick
update
of
where
we
are
and
and
where
the
Project's
head,
in
obviously
love
million
dollar
project.
D
Sorry
construction,
as
I
mentioned
in
Fall
of
2022.
At
this
point
we've
come:
we've
completed
our
tree
removal.
We
have
just
a
couple
days
left
on
the
water
sewer
relocations
in
partnership
with
CWS
that
our
contractors
doing
in
contract.
D
G
D
Those
relocations
are
finished
roughly
this
summer,
depending
on
weather,
in
progress
with
those
utility
companies
we'll
be
installing
the
large
box
culverts
under
Playground
Road.
That
will
be
a
you
know,
two
to
four
week:
total
closure
of
Playground
Road,
as
we
basically
dig
the
road
up
and
install
those
major
culverts
through
the
roadway
that
should
be
completed
by
you
know,
late
2023,
which
will
allow
significant
improvements
of
drainage
throughout
that
whole
system.
That's
the
major
choke
point
in
the
system
right
now.
D
We'll
then
continue
on
with
what's
called
phase
2B
and
I'll
show
you
the
phases
in
a
second
so
phase,
2A,
basically
being
this
work
to
put
the
new
box
culverts
under
Playground
Road
and
to
improve
the
canal
down
to
extend
into
the
existing
Bikeway
phase
so
that
again
being
completed
by
late
2023,
and
then
that
will
shift
the
contractor
into
phase
2B,
which
is
basically
this
Upstream
component,
tying
back
all
the
way
up
to
Highway
61.
D
on
the
North
side
and
then
also
having
a
western
component
that
comes
and
ties
into
residential
neighborhoods
and
the
apartment
complexes
into
that
drainage
system.
All
that
then
being
completed
in
2024..
D
So,
making
steady
progress
should
be
out
of
the
nighttime
Road
road
closure
work
pretty
quickly
as
soon
as
we
can
finish
up
a
couple
more
CWS
relocations,
then
we'll
have
one
more
major
closure
likely
and
late
spring
early
summer
on
playground,
Road
and
then
at
that
point,
we'll
mostly
be
in
those
strain
achievements
and
out
of
the
roadways
again.
D
B
Look
at
see
you
then
yeah
any
questions
on
Forest
Seekers
appreciate.
B
And
your
your
team
ESO
Forest
item
H3
I,
want
to
thank
councilman
Sacrament
for
helping
to
get
this
on
the
agenda,
and
it's
about
now
information.
You
pull
together
in
short
notice,.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
for
sure,
and
so
I
know
that
you
know
this
is,
as
you
know,
from
the
public
Outreach
meetings
we're
doing
on
Forest
Acres.
This
has
come
up
as
a
question.
That's
also
related
to
the
First
Acres
project
is
the
East
Oak
Forest
West
Oak
Forest
drainage
system.
You
know
very
small
part
of
those
communities
is
improved
by
the
Forest
Acres
drainage
system
as
well.
D
Some
of
the
Northern
areas
do
drain
up
into
the
Forest
Acres
section
right
along
the
Bikeway,
but
the
majority
of
those
neighborhoods
drain
South
and
there's
another
one
of
these
Maps
where
you
start
to
have
such
a
large
area,
it's
hard
to
show
all
in
one
map,
but
you
can
kind
of
see
on
the
top
here
we're
at
North,
Sherwood,
Byron
Road,
if
you're
familiar
with
the
area
right,
Forest
Drive,
coming
down
kind
of
the
main
area
here,
which
is
sort
of
the
bottom
round
of
playground
coming
down
to
highway
17.,
so
the
drainage
system
for
all
of
these
areas.
D
Basically,
all
this
here,
tucks
in
become
comes
into
this
ditch
that
runs
along
the
back
side
of
Shelley
comes
down
under
Highway
17
through
the
church.
Parking
lot
turns
comes
back
behind
the
Harris
Teeter
complex
under
the
greenway
and
then
out
into
the
open
Marsh,
that
is
a
very
large
drainage
area,
draining
through
a
very
constricted
drainage
system.
So
we've
been
again
similar
to
what
we
were
doing
in
the
Old
Town
down
in
area
we've
been
looking
at.
D
What
can
we
do
to
try
to
improve
drainage
in
this
large
system
as
it
comes
through
all
these
constrictions
again,
an
area
with
heavy
flooding
as
we'll
talk
about
in
a
second,
the
city's
actually
acquired
multiple
properties
in
this
set
of
neighborhoods,
with
FEMA
grants
from
repeated
flood
damage?
That's
a
it's
a
challenging
outfall.
D
So
what
we're
looking
at
is
trying
to
kind
of
similar
to
the
Dowden
area.
Look
at
multiple
short-term
improvements
we
can
make
and
then
also
could
have
in
mind
considerations
for
larger
term
longer
term
improvements
that
might
have
a
higher
cost,
but
also
have
some
some
larger
benefits
in
the
future,
so
short
run
zooming
in
a
little
bit.
This
is
the
Oak
Forest
at
Keith's,
so
Pete's
Road
running
here,
Oak
Forest
Road
running
here.
This
is
near
the
top
of
the
system.
D
It's
where
a
lot
of
the
neighborhoods
tie
into
this
Oak
Forest
drainage
system.
These
are
two
of
the
properties
that
the
city's
already
Acquired
and
demolished
the
homes
on
in
coordination
with
some
FEMA
grants.
So
we've
completed
design
work
with
a
consultant
to
retrofit
these
into
basically
properties
that
will
help
store
more
water
and
then
get
planted
with
Native
vegetation
that
can
both
uptake
water
and
provide
some
kind
of
beautification
and
amenity
to
those
empty
lots
which
are
currently
frequently
flooded.
D
D
We're
actually
going
to
tie
that
in
with
a
third
property
that
is
a
little
further
down
on
Shelley
Road
here.
This
property
is
the
same
same
general
concept,
where
we're
actually
adding
a
maintenance
pathway.
One
of
the
advantages
of
this
property
is
that's
it's
a
great
access
point
into
the
rear
yard,
ditch
system
that
runs
through
this
community.
Otherwise
we
have
very
little
ability
to
get
access
to
so
we're
building
a
maintenance
pathway
into
that.
D
Now,
we've
actually
been
doing
some
cleaning
taking
out
basic
debris
and
tree
fall
and
obstruction
in
this
drainage
system.
That's
happened
over
the
you
know:
series
of
hurricanes
we've
had
over
the
last
years
trying
to
improve
the
drainage
where
we
can
this
rear
yard
system
as
well,
but
as
I
and
show
you
here
as
we
get
further
south
into
this
system,
this
system
does
become
tidally,
influenced
and
has
salt,
basically
salt,
marsh
vegetation
in
it.
This
will.
D
F
D
Channel
system
there's
a
driveway
in
the
church
parking
lot
that
has
some
pipes
in
it
and
then
the
greenway
itself,
trying
to
figure
out
what
pipe
sizing
is
necessary
to
be
able
to
move
the
water
out
and
not
have
those
big
constrictions
we're
working
with
the
the
church
and
the
car
wash
to
obtain
drainage
easements
on
areas
that
don't
currently
have
easement
on
the
system,
then
we're
gonna.
D
B
B
Okay,
thank
you.
What
was
the
time
frame
on
some
of
that
cleaning
out
goals
to
clean
out
this
drainage
from
Savannah
to
you
know
by
the
church
and.
D
We'll
be
working
on
the
modeling
for
those
constrictions
over
the
next
couple
of
months
to
evaluate
pipe
sizing
that'll,
let
us
simultaneously
working
through
the
Eastman
acquisition
with
the
with
the
survey
ongoing
and
then
we
work.
We
have
some
OCR
I'm
critical
area
survey
and
working
in
this
area.
Right
now
we
have
Eastman
surveying
going
on
in
this
location,
so
I'd
say
we
would
hope
to
have
by
the
end
of
2023.
D
D
The
the
Culvert
under
Savannah
highway
is
like
a
4x4
box.
Culvert,
the
driveway
pipes
are
hard
to
tell
them
that
they're
so
buried
under
the
title
conditions
and
then
they're,
probably
something
like
twin
48s,
so
they're,
not
they're,
not
small,
but
they're,
not
in
very
good
condition
in
this
area
and
the
greenway
is
something
like
twin
48s
as
well.
So
it
may
be
that
Savannah
highway
is
the
major
constriction
other
than
how
much
debris
and
sediment
is
accumulated
in
this
channel,
which
we'd
obviously
like
to
get
that
cleaned
out.
D
B
That
something
that
new,
improved
relationship
with
I
guess
some
of
the
local
people
can
help
out
with
I
mean
some
relationship
with
you
know,
councilman,
lapel
and-
and
you
all
have
established
with
you-
know:
local
OCR,
yeah.
D
That's
exactly
right,
so
this
is.
This
is
the
type
of
work
that
the
Army,
Corps
and
DHEC
have
put
together
their
original
permit
to
try
to
speed
up
how
this
would
work.
This
previously
would
have
gone
into
what's
called
an
individual
permit.
That
is
typically
like
a
two
plus
year
permitting
process
once
you've,
basically
done
all
of
the
engineering
work
and
you're
ready
to
move
forward.
So
the
the
general
permit
process
is
supposed
to
be
much
shorter,
more
like
three
to
six
months.
F
B
That's
good
information.
You
know
we
got
the
meeting
with
ESO
and
about
an
hour
and
a
half
so
thanks
for,
hopefully
some
of
the
some
of
them
on
the
line.
Listening
to
some
of
this,
thanks
for
this
update,
Mr
Mayor,
you
want
to
go
back
to
Florence
seconds.
A
That
one
image
of
the
neighborhood
with
the
phase
2A
brought
back
some
memories,
that
not
that
one
I
think
the
one
next
behind
it
that
one
there
so
I
am
participated
with
our
city
staff
on
a
neighborhood
cleanup
and
there's
some
existing
ditches.
Of
course,
all
through
there
and
I
just
have
this
memory
of
helping
our
staff.
That
did
such
a
remarkable
job,
but
you
would
not
believe
I'm
the
crap
that
we
pulled
out
of
those
ditches.
A
A
If
we
could
have
a
elevated
penalty
and
or
a
separate
offense
for
people
who
who
in
any
way
block
litter
into
our
Drainage
Systems
I,
know,
there's
probably
a
a
a
ticket,
we
could
write
somebody
if
we
saw
him
pushing
a
card
into
a
ditch,
but
I
mean
we
ought
to
make
it
a
separate
offense
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
B
Well,
I
couldn't
agree
more
Mr
as
a
matter
of
fact,
especially
the
cars
we
I
think
that's
a
maybe
in
the
Suburban
areas.
You
know
more
of
a
problem
with
those
cars
end
up
in
the
ditch,
but
I
think
we
should
come
up
with
an
audience
when
somebody
takes
a
car
off
the
parking
lot.
In
other
words,
it's
not
their
current
when
they
take
a
Harris,
Teeter
cotton,
yeah
they're,
pushing
it
two
blocks
down
the
street
away
from
yeah.
You.
B
We
see
that
I've
actually
got
some
pictures
where
I've
ridden
around
and
just
taking
pictures
of
shopping
carts.
That's
either
on
the
side
of
the
room
or
in
the
ditch,
and
you
know,
I,
don't
know
whether
we
put
some
onus
on
the
store.
You
know
Target
used
to
have
Parts,
where,
after
it
went
a
certain
amount
of
feet,
the
wheels
would
lock
up
which
prevented
them
from
taking
somebody
from
taking
it
off
the
premises.
You
know
we
got
this
thing
on
plastic
bags.
B
I
got
to
tell
you
and
this
you
know
cons,
especially
in
the
Orleans
woods
and
around
that
area.
We
got
a
big
major
canal.
That
dreams
you
know
down
audience
Road
and
eventually,
underneath
all
into
the
mall
and
and
into
the
stoner,
but
our
people
have
taken
one
more
than
they
share
a
cards.
Out
of
that,
though,
going
on
to
them,
it.
A
Could
be
all
kinds
of
debris
in
addition
to
those
cards,
maybe
we
have
a
special
penalty,
ordinance
signage,
whatever
I
don't
know,
just
a
thought:
I
had
that
memory.
Looking
at
this
map
well.
B
B
Look
into
it
thanks!
Thank
you.
Mr
Fountain,
back
on
you,
I
didn't
have
any
more
questions
on
ESO.
Does
anybody
else
thanks
civil
Woods
Wildwood
update.
D
So
the
city
of
the
woods,
Wildwood
town
home
area-
this
is
basically
the
community
at
the
top
of
air.
The
air
Harbor
neighborhood.
So
city
of
the
woods
is
the
area.
That's
all
within
the
city,
at
the
top,
there
is
some
sections
of
air
Harbor
that
also
rather
than
the
city.
D
The
northern
part
of
your
Harbor
also
was
a
drain.
As
we
talked
about
the
last
committee
meeting
chairman
North,
up
kind
of
under
Highway
17
up
into
the
Citadel
Mall
drainage
system
under
526
down
behind
Costco
around
the
car
dealerships,
turn
the
corner
kind
of
come
South
across
17,
again
and
flow
out
through
the
root
system
by
Orange
Grove.
D
So
we've
been
looking
at
trying
to
make
improvements
that
cause
a
lot
of
flooding
in
civil
Woods
in
air
Harbor
in
the
Wildwood
townhomes,
and
here
obviously
we're
familiar
with
the
rest
of
the
wapu,
because
so
we've
been
we've
been
doing
some
smaller
projects
again
in
these
areas,
trying
to
relieve
some
of
the
flooding
as
well.
So
it's
touching
base
on
a
couple
of
those
this
and
I'll.
Let
me
back
up.
This
is
Project
work.
D
We
did
basically
in
this
area
between
the
Wildwood
town
homes
and
the
outfalls,
through
the
Ruby
Tuesdays
back
across
Highway
17,
trying
to
free
up
it's
on
this
area
to
drain
more
cleanly
to
the
north
and
also
store
some
of
the
water
when
it
does
back
up
from
how
far
it
has
to
go
and
basically
normally
would
cause
flooding
in.
D
These
are,
these
are
again
small
scale
improvements
they're,
not
certainly
fixing
the
drainage
in
the
DuPont
Lapu
Basin,
but
they
are
making
short-term
improvements
in
some
challenging
areas.
So
this
is
a
picture
along
the
greenway.
You
can
kind
of
see
the
town
homes
which
are
kind
of
individually
owned
homes,
backing
up
and
you'll,
see
Heavy
flooding
through
this
area.
Here's
some
pictures
of
their
section
along
the
greenway,
some
pictures
of
what
the
town
home
parking
lots
and
the
properties
look
like.
They
have
quite
a
bit
of
flood
challenges.
E
D
We've
also
gone
to
the
other
side
of
the
town
home
complex
to
the
north,
where
it
tries
to
drain
back
out
through
the
Ruby,
Tuesdays
and
cleaned
up
the
drainage
systems
in
those
areas
so
that
the
water
can
get
out
of
those
neighborhoods
and
into
the
pipes
under
Savannah
highway
as
smoothly
as
possible.
D
It
seems
to
be
draining
much
better.
We
had
some
of
these
recent
storm
events
where
we
had
a
couple
inches
of
rain
overnight
a
few
weeks
ago.
The
report
so
far
that
it's
draining
much
better.
We,
you
know,
as
we
get
some
warmth
last
week
and
this
week
we
do
expect
to
see
the
grass
pick
couple
better,
which
will
also
help
clean
out
the
site
and
help
it
drain
a
little
bit
better.
But.
F
D
Very
small
projects
we
ended
up
building
this
in-house
with
our
construction
crew.
We
did
try
to
contract
this
out,
so
we
could
do
a
little
bit
faster
and
the
the
prices
came
in
so
exorbitantly.
We
ended
up
building
in-house
with
one
of
our
construction
Crews
and
did
a
great
job
came
and
did
some
tree
removal
did
some
additional
maintenance
in
the
other
area.
Another
kind
of
good,
successful
project
that
everybody
seems
to
be
pretty
pretty
pleased
with
from
a
from
a
short-term
scenario.
D
B
Take
a
look,
go
back
to
the
item.
Number
seven
I
mean
slide
number
two
yeah.
B
That
that
I,
don't
know
is
that
south
of
17
right
with
your
icon
and
yeah.
B
You
know
the
the
brief
discussion
we
we
had
I
think
with
Barry
about
I.
Think
there's
been
some
talk
with
the
county
as
well
on
keeping
some
of
that
crop
water
south
of
17
and
taking
it
out
of
I'm
gonna,
say
that
drainage.
A
B
D
D
So
we
yeah
absolutely.
We
have
some
small
Project
work.
There's
a
city
right
away
here,
along
paper
paper,
Road,
that's
likely
an
old
railroad
track.
D
We
added
some
small
Project
work
in
to
clean
out
some
of
the
canals
that
are
along
this
way
and
then
the
county,
because
air
Harbor
drains
in
this
area,
the
county
is
partnering
with
us
and
they've
actually
hired
a
consultant
to
basically
try
to
evaluate
how
you
could
work
with
CWS
on
the
greenway
to
add
that
drainage
down
the
greenway
and
into
this
system,
which
is
a
much
more
even
though
it's
a
long
drainage
path,
it's
much
more
straightforward
than
the
existing
circuitous
route
through
all
the
pipe
systems.
B
Mean
I
just
think:
that's
great
I
mean
taking
that
water
out
of
that
they
buy
so
much
competition
for
that
big
canal
in
front
of
Citadel
Mall.
Until
when
that
you
know
gets
inundated
everything
just
backs
up
like
dominoes,
you
know
into
the
neighborhood
absolutely
all
right.
Well,
thank
you.
Any
questions
on
Senator
woods
and
wildwood
project.
F
F
With
you
know:
infrastructure
in
the
ground
is
just
a
really
cool
site
to
see
so
really
appreciate
it,
and
it's
just
wonderful
seeing
all
these
projects
throughout
West
Ashley
and
councilman
Shades
District
councilman,
waring's
District,
my
district,
and
as
we've
seen
you
know
it
doesn't
take
a
whole
lot
financially
to
move
the
needle
in
a
significant
way
in
West,
Ashley
and
James,
Island
and
elsewhere.
This
is
not
Calhoun,
West
or
Springfield,
or
you
know
the
perimeter
walls
or
anything
like
that.
I
mean
mitigating
storm.
F
B
A
B
D
Do
yeah
we're
really
good
about
it
with
our
maintenance
folks,
we
are
pretty
good
about
it
with
our
in-house
construction
work.
That's
the
area
we're
trying
to
improve
on
is
getting
the.
We
do
a
good
job
with
flyers
and
handouts,
we're
trying
to
make
it
a
little
more
consistent
with
the
sign
placement
for
in-house
construction,
but
with
maintenance
work.
We
do
a
pretty
good
job
of
it.
Now.
B
Okay,
great
item
five
report
on
recent
stormwater
grants
and
applications.
Can
you
ever.
G
G
Point
out
that
yeah
these
these
construction
projects,
they
don't
look
beautiful
while
they
are
occurring
and
to
that
point
letting
people
know
what
what
we're
doing-
and
you
know
who's
doing
it.
I
just
want
to
thank
Matt
and
his
team
for
project
through
there's
one
going
on
right
around
the
corner
from
my
house
that
we're
having
a
community
meeting
later
this
week
to
just
explain
again
what
these
projects
are,
what
they'll
ultimately
look
like.
G
So
it's
you
know,
you
know
figuring
out
the
the
funding
piece
and
doing
the
work.
It's
like
really
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
PR
too,
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
patience
explaining
to
people
who
just
want
this
to
happen.
Now
we
want
it
to
look
beautiful
what
you
know
what
goes
into
me.
G
It
has
has
meant
a
lot.
I
know
to
people
that
that
that
I've
been
able
to
explain
that
that
they're
doing
this
work
and
making
sure
that
people
really
understand
what
what
exactly
they're
getting.
B
Right
right,
oh
man,
is
anything
that
kind
of
roll
around
top
of
your
head
that
we
can
do
to
help
you.
D
I'd
say
most
of
our
challenges:
right
now
are
still
trying
to
staff
fully
I
mean
I.
Think
the
the
pay
increase
is
certainly
have
helped
and
or
we're
seeing
much
more
competitive
applications,
but
it
takes
a
little
bit
of
time
to
close
some
of
those
gaps
and
that's
probably
the
biggest
challenge.
D
Right
now,
I
mean
we
have
some
great
Crews,
as
you
saw
doing
in-house
construction
work,
but
if
you
only
a
few
folks
who
have
that
skill
set
we're
trying
to
hire
a
few
more
with
again
with
those
pay
adjustments,
engineering,
wise
yeah,
we
have
been
short
our
small
project
manager
since
we
created
the
position
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
So
we're
optimistic
we'll
be
able
to
hire
that
this
round,
so
I
mean
we.
D
We
try
to
get
to
projects
as
quickly
as
we
can,
but
that's
why
you'll
often
see
us
not
start
everything
all
at
once,
because
we
need
to
close
one
out
to
get
the
next
one
going
right.
We
are
doing
too
many
things.
They
end
up
all
being
a
mess
instead
of
all
being
done.
Well,
so
we
try
to
be
a
little
more
controlled
in
what
we
start
to
make
sure
we
finish
it.
B
Well,
don't
suffer
in
silence
now,
if
you
need
help,
please
let
us
know.
That's
some
good
stuff.
I
now
report
on
recent
stormwater
grants
an
application.
D
Quickly
and
then
I'm
saying
question,
certainly
let
me
know,
but
granted
we
have
submitted,
but
not
yet
heard
on
decisions
are
primarily
these
two
arpa
funded
grants.
This
is
scra
being
the
first
one.
That's
the
when
you
hear
about
the
very
large
pot
of
money
that
was
directed
by
the
state
from
arpa
funding
into
infrastructure.
D
This
is
that
granted
is,
is
primarily
directed
at
Water
Wastewater
and
storm
water.
There's
a
very
large
group
of
submittals
that
have
been
put
in
for
that
money.
We
as
a
city
applied
for
King,
The,
King
ug
project,
a
10
million
dollar
request.
D
They
have
said
so
far.
They
are
thinking
about
announcing
at
the
end
of
March,
but
there
I
think
there's
been
a
little
bit
hesitancy
on
the
time
frame
because
there's
still
the
uncertainty
that
the
state
legislature,
more
money,
gets
added
into
the
the
funding
and
how
that
would
be
accommodated.
D
The
other
one
is
is
score
of
the
opposite:
resiliency,
that's
the
more
green
infrastructure,
oriented
arpa
funding,
it's
a
much
smaller
pot
of
money,
more
like
70
million.
Instead
of
the
more
like
900
million
for
the
water
Wastewater
side,
we
applied
for
Barbary
Woods
at
7.6
million
dollars.
They
were
supposed
to
announce
originally
a
couple
of
Fridays
ago,
but
each
Friday
so
far
they've
had
to
delay
it
for
another
week,
they're
hoping
for
this
Friday,
but
I'm,
not
sure
if
they'll,
if
they're
expecting
to
hit
that
date
for
sure.
E
D
Friday
to
announce
their
Awards
and
then
lastly,
we
had
applied
for
an
hmgp
at
King
and
ug,
this
sort
of
as
a
backup
for
the
arpa.
The
hmgp
grants
are
not
as
common
to
see
fun
large
capital
projects.
They
seem
to
enjoy
funding
more
fire
station
improvements
and
emergency
response.
Our
infrastructure
tends
to
be
a
little
bit
more
challenging
for
a
traditional
hmgp
Grant.
C
D
Top-Notch
submittals
to
try
to
increase
our
potential
for
award,
and
certainly
we
always
encourage
if
you
have
good
contacts
or
you
have
good
resources
and
these
agencies
for
you
to
help,
inform
them
on
how
the
project
works
and
anything
we
may
have
missed
in
our
application,
because
that
can
be
helpful
and
then
just
briefly
on
kind
of
history
of
of
a
word
of
Grants.
This
is
not
necessarily
every
Grant
we've
ever
received
from
a
stormwater
department
but
sort
of
a
highlight
reel.
D
You
know
recently,
we
just
announced
the
council
last
council
meeting
councilman
before
with
the
Army
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
the
MUSC
Pump
Station
outfit,
which
is
a
three
million
dollar
injection
from
the
Army
Corps.
Towards
that
pump
station
conservation
bank
is
helping
fund
a
property
acquisition
in
Barbary
Woods
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
We
had
a
South
Carolina
budget
appropriation
from
representative
and
Windermere
for
1.5
million
dollars.
Last
year,
HUD
cdbg
MIT
you're,
certainly
familiar
with
the
Earhart
Medical
District
tunnel
extension
for
10
million
dollars.
D
It's
we're,
adding
in
basically
Earhart
section
of
Medical
District
into
the
spring
fisherman
project.
With
that
channel
that
works
going
on
right.
Now
the
stem
had
kindly
agreed
to
give
us
the
extra
21
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
the
spring
Fishburn
project
with
construction
increases
on
that
work.
Scra,
which
again
is
the
agency
that
is,
is
considering
the
arpa
funding
for
the
state.
Previously
it
awarded
us
the
king
Yuji
phase,
one
at
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
towards
that
project.
D
The
Nature
Conservancy
found
a
donor
and
contributed
35
000
towards
the
church,
Creek
Project
work,
that's
going
on
National,
Fish
and
Wildlife
Foundation
for
church
Creek
also
was
awarded
about
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
towards
the
projects
going
on
in
that
Basin
score,
which
is
the
office
of
resilience
again
they're
revolving
Loan
Fund
has
announced,
but
not
yet
provide
the
full
documentation
for
us
for
Barbary
Woods
of
a
very
low
interest
loan
for
three
million
dollars
for
that
project.
D
National
Fish
and
Wildlife
Foundation
John's
Island
planning
Grant.
This
was
sort
of
the
lead-in
that
led
to
the
Barbara
Woods
project,
117
thousand
dollars,
and
then
we
have
a
series
of
FEMA
property
acquisition
grants
that
are
well
over
10
million
dollars
of
properties
we've
acquired
over
the
years
from
flood
damage.
D
B
D
A
lot
of
good
work:
we
have
a
lot
of
great
projects
as
a
city
which
makes
it
I
think
attractive
for
Grant
agencies
to
fund
our
projects,
because
we
do
high
impact
like
high
visibility,
Project
work
that
actually
gets
built
and
completed,
which
is
something
that
a
lot
of
Grant
agencies
struggle
with.
So
it's
it's
been,
we've
had
some
great
Partners
done
some
great
projects,
certainly
looking
forward
to
continuing
that.
B
I
agree
that
the
going
over
the
other
side
of
September
clock
spring
fish,
bearing
on
on
Hagen
Avenue,
the
at
least
the
one
that
drainage
that's
proposed
to
with
the
cleanup
of
Gadson
Creek.
That's
still
is
that
done
or
that's
a
proposal
or
where.
D
Are
we
on
that,
so
the
the
section
of
it
that
would
be
involved
with
the
West
Edge
project
had
been
basically
involved
in
a
series
of
legal
challenges
on
their
permitting
requirements.
Some
of
the
state
challenges
I
think
are
resolved,
are
somewhat
resolved.
D
Certainly,
Ms
Copeland
might
be
able
to
speak
better
towards
the
legal
situation,
but
I
think
they're
still
progressing
through
some
of
those
permitting
legal
hurdles
and
then
would
expect
when
they
complete
that
to
start
construction,
which
would
then
provide
a
different
drainage
route
both
to
disconnect
the
existing
tidal
flooding
and
to
create
a
new
improved
outfall
to
the
north.
That
would
help
that
area
drain
from
Gravity,
which
then
would
let
them
complete
the
tie-in
to
our
spring
Fisher
and
drainage
system
for
the
small.
F
D
To
the
South,
which
I
could
a
lot
about
if
we
need
to,
but
that
basically
gets
cut
off
from
drainage
from
those
two
directions.
So
it's
it
is
still
progressing
as
far
as
I'm
aware,
constantly
wearing
I
think
they're
just
working
through
the
typical
process
for
permitting
and
then
permitting
challenges.
Councilman.
C
Thank
you
Mr,
chairman
and
Matt.
This
is
going
to
sound
like
a
loaded
question
to
you,
but
when
and
I
notice,
all
of
the
grantees
paying
grand
Tours
listed
on
on
here.
But
what
is
what
is
the
general
correlation
between
when
we
make
these
applications?
What
what
is
the
sort
of
the
criteria
if
there
is
an
overriding
criteria
for
making
these
applications
for
these
type
of
things,.
D
So
different
agencies
have
different
priority
criteria.
D
So,
if
you're,
if
you're
working
with
it
like
the
South
Carolina
Transportation
infrastructure,
Bank
they're
going
to
want
to
see
projects
that
are
helpful
to
the
dot,
primarily,
where
there's
going
to
be
something
that
overlaps,
where
they
say
the
city
is
enabling
dot
to
do
more
work
than
dot
would
normally
be
able
to
do-
and
that's
that's
an
oversimplification,
but
it's
a
like
a
general
priority
for
the
state
where
something
like
National,
Fish
and
Wildlife
Foundation
wants
to
see
ecological
value
involved
in
your
project
like
how
are
you
promoting
and
supporting
natural
resources
and
habitat
systems
where
the
Army
Corps
wants
to
see
traditional
cost
benefit
ratios
right.
D
D
He
wants
to
see
how
are
you
benefiting
low
to
moderate
income
populations
with
your
project
work,
so
you
very
much
have
to
Target
the
project
to
the
agency,
rather
than
kind
of
applying
for
whatever
project
you
most
need
money
for,
because
each
agency
has
very
much
its
own,
its
own
focus
and
needs.
C
And
the
reason
I'm
asking
is
I'm,
you
know:
we've
talked
about
the
the
high
impact
low
cost
of
what
we're
doing
on
doubting
project,
and
then
we
have
a
very
high-end
project
over
on
West
Pawnee
place,
which
has
a
lower
impact
geographically
and
I'm,
just
wondering
that
doesn't
qualify
for
any
of
these
types
of
Grants.
C
D
Residential
Properties
or
projects
are
probably
the
most
challenging
that
if
you
get
an
inexpensive
enough
project,
where
you
see
very
high
cost
of
benefit,
ratios
you've
often
kind
of
gone
below
the
funding
threshold.
That
a
lot
of
agencies
are
looking
for,
where
they
they
want
to
make
larger
Awards
frequently
because
of
the
administrative
cost
of
running
a
grant
that
a
you
know.
Fifty
thousand
dollar
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
Grant
from
many
agencies
is
so
administratively
burdensome
that
it
isn't.
D
There
isn't
as
much
benefit
from
receiving
that
Grant.
There
are
certain
agencies
that
specialize
in
those
that
do
a
good
job.
Stra
often
does
a
really
good
job
running
a
smaller
grants.
Their
maximum
is
normally
500
000.
They
kind
of
customize
themselves
into
those
those
style
of
Grants.
But
a
lot
of
the
agencies
are
looking
more
for
these
multi-million
dollars
projects
and
frequently,
when
you
get
into
multi-million
dollar
residential,
it
can
be
slightly
more
challenging
to
show
a
like.
D
High
cost
benefit
ratio
that
you
might
see
in
like
a
commercial
Corridor
or
business
Corridor,
where
you
can
show
the
economic
impacts
that
kind
of
multiply
out
over
a
larger
area,
because
you
get
you
get
a
much
higher
traffic
count.
You
get
the
economic
impacts
of
the
business
in
addition
to
the
people
who
actually
live
in
the
Basin.
So
it's
it's
possible,
like
we've,
certainly
seen
Grant
applications
and
we've
done
some
that
work.
D
That
way,
when
we've
done
Barbary
Woods,
which
is
a
residential
neighborhood,
we've
certainly
done
Church
Creek,
which
are
residential,
neighborhoods
we've
just
customized
those
into
agencies
that
have
other
considerations
that
like
when
you
see
ecological
benefit
to
your
project
or
land
preservation
to
your
project
that
suddenly
brings
in
other
kind
of
more
or
less
traditional
infrastructure
agencies
who
want
to
fund
unusual
projects.
D
So
it's
it's
possible,
but
a
little
bit
more
challenging.
E
C
Giving
us
that
that
overview,
Matt
and
I
mean
that's
what
I
was
expecting
to
hear
from
you
thanks
some.
D
Of
it
is
the
nutritional
cost.
Benefits
like
quality
of
life
is
not
as
easy
to
measure
in
a
traditional
cost
benefit
ratio.
It's
looking
at
like
structural
damage.
It's
looking
at.
Are
you
blocking
emergency
vehicle
access,
but
it's
not
looking
at.
Is
it
making
people's
lives
miserable
I
mean
you
could
try
to
do
pre-post
like
property
evaluation
assessments,
but
a
lot
of
our
residential
projects
are
Parcels.
Where
you
know
yards
are
repeatedly.
Underwater
roads
are
repeatedly
underwater.
B
B
Item
six
discussion
on
US
Army,
Corps
Engineers
potential
funding,
request,
Mr
film.
D
E
D
What
we
have
for
the
MUSC
Pump
Station,
where
they
receive
requests
for
funding
authorizations,
where
they
then
have
the
ability,
once
they
have
a
funding
authorization
to
make
requests
for
actually
receiving
money
into
projects.
So
if
they
have
an
authorization,
they
can
then
do
a
supplemental
request
for
a
future
year
asking
for
funding
under
an
appropriation
and
then
once
they
have
an
appropriation,
they
can
actually
do
the
project.
D
So
there
is
an
existing
authorization
that
representative
mesa's
office
had
pushed
through
partially
to
the
Army
Corps
of
engineer,
to
look
at
potential
drainage
improvements
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
It's
a
pretty
unusual
authorization
and
that
the
core
mostly
works
on
title
search
issues.
It's
they
do.
They
do
do
drainage
in
New
Orleans,
but
it
hasn't
hasn't
been
something
they've
done
in
a
lot
of
other
areas.
So
it's
something
the
corps
are
very
interested
in
putting
an
appropriation
request
for
to
see
if
they
can
provide
some
benefit
on
that.
D
So
there
are
the
project
that
we've
primarily
been
looking
at.
Potentially,
for
that
request
is
Dupont
wapu
phases
5
through
10,
which
are
our
kind
of
large
projects
again
in
a
very
flood
impacted
Basin.
It
does
have
to
score
well
in
a
cost
benefit
ratio
of
the
Army
Corps
they're,
a
very
strict
economic
cost
benefit
ratio
agency.
So
that's
something
we'll
have
to
evaluate.
D
D
We
would
certainly
were
pretty
far
along
in
that
project
design.
At
this
point
it
tends
to
be
a
long
process
for
the
Army
Corps
dollars
to
come
through.
This
is
likely
a
2025
type
funding
if
it
occurs
so.
I
I
would
certainly
like
to
find
the
king
ug
funny
on
one
of
the
other
grants
we've
applied
for,
if
possible,
because
going
for
federal
funding,
pushing
the
project
back
for
three
or
four
years
potentially
and
backing
up
to
incorporate
Federal
requirements.
D
The
project
would
likely
cost
a
lot
of
money
and
there's
no
guarantee
of
funding
in
a
federal
appropriation
for
it,
but
it
might
be
one
that
we
consider
based
on
representative
base's
office
having
supported
that
project
in
the
initial
the
initial
round.
You.
E
D
Can
interior
apply
for
multiple
projects?
It's
not.
You
can
only
apply
for
one
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
mention
to
Council
the
other
major
upcoming
Grant
application.
The
HUD
cdbg
program
that
is
funding
the
Earhart
project
currently
has
its
final
round
of
applications
for
it's
an
MIT
project,
it's
where
they
receive
money
after
a
disaster.
A
major
disaster
MIT
stands
for
mitigation,
so
the
last
round
where
they
have
to
expend
the
remainder
of
their
funds,
is
coming
up.
This.
E
D
Our
our
intent
is
to
apply
for
Cooper
Jackson,
we've
talked
with
them
quite
a
bit
about
it.
It's
obviously
it's
HUD
funding.
They
want
to
see
an
LMI
benefit.
Cooper
Jackson
is
a
very
large
LMI
population,
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
development
in
the
area.
It's
something
their
agency,
the
State
Office
of
resilience.
He
feels
pretty
good
about
because
they
don't
have
a
lot
of
Hud
mitigation
work
currently
going
on
directly
in
affordable
housing
neighborhoods.
D
So
that's
where
we're
intending
our
application,
but
we
certainly
and
all
these
will
come
through
Council
before
they
they
go
in,
but
we
just
wanted
to
see
if
there
were
any
questions
or
any
any
concerns
on
kind
of
this
General
approach
that
we're
considering.
B
A
Mayor
well,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
and
I
just
wanted
to
Anna
shout
out
very
sincerely
to
Congresswoman
Nancy
mace,
who
put
in
the
authorization
for
us
to
have
this
opportunity
with
the
U.S
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
to
pursue
these
other
projects
and
her
staff
as
well.
I
met
with
them
when
I
was
in
Washington
in
January,
and
they
looked
to
work
with
us
over
the
next
couple
of
years
as
we
identify
projects
and
then
ask
for
the
appropriation
to
go
with
the
authorization
that
she
already
got
passed
and
put
in
place.
A
So
we
we
really
owe
ANSI
a
big.
Thank
you.
B
B
But
definitely
just
didn't
put
your
feet
up
getting
a
little
relaxation.
After
all
of
that
big
committee
meeting
any
last
comments
from
any
committee
members
airing,
none,
that's
a
journalist
meeting
by
acclimation
I
look
forward
to
seeing
all
of
you
all
tomorrow.