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Description
City of Charleston Committee on Public Works and Utilities 4/27/2020
A
At
this
point,
Wow
we
have
one
property,
that's
actually
in
the
process
of
a
real
estate,
closing
two
properties
that
have
been
appraised,
but
we're
waiting
for
owners
to
finalize
their
agreements
on
being
bought
out
and
we'll
be
able
to
move
to
a
closing
on
those
one
that
was
approved
for
acquisition
by
Council,
either
last
week,
new
to
me
before,
and
then
we'll
have
one
more
coming
to
council
next
meeting.
It
looks
like
that's
about
total
about
nine
million
dollars
of
property
acquisition,
demolition
that
were
working
through
and
I
want.
A
Do
the
buyouts
remove
the
kind
of
the
risk
category
from
the
flood
insurance,
which
is
why
they're
supported
as
buyout
grants
from
NFIP
and
FEMA,
and
you
have
some
reduction
in
stormwater
generation
as
well
often
taken
you
know
a
lot
that
previously
had
a
home
on
it
and
then
returned
it
to
the
grass
property,
but
just
wanted
to
remind
everyone
that
we,
you
know
we
did
acquire
or
we
did
win
that
niffle.
If
grant
that's
the
first
new
five
grant
we
had
applied
for
about
a
year
ago,
we
applied
for
it.
A
We
found
out,
we
had
one
in
the
fall.
Nifflas
been
a
little
bit
delayed
on
actually
providing
the
award
paperwork
and
handing
out
money
from
the
colonel
virus
situation,
but
they
were
still
on
track
with
that.
We've
been
in
conversation
with
that,
so
the
plan
is
still
assuming
that
they
they
continue
with
the
calendar.
A
So
we're
looking
at
doing
that
this
summer,
selecting
those
firms
I'll.
Let
us
move
into
design
on
those
through
basically
the
end
of
2020
and
early
2021.
But
this
is
where
we
kind
of
tie
into
what
we
what
we
just
found
out
for
the
niffle
a
while
ago,
with
the
the
larger
grant
we
had
applied
for
in
Church
Creek
to
actually
do
what
we
call
it
kind
of
call.
A
The
mid
basin
storage
projects,
where
we're
going
to
acquire
much
larger
pieces
of
property
and
build
more
natural
features,
flood
benches
wetland
restoration,
so
I'll
be
tying
this
grant
into
that
grant
and
looking
at
new
property
acquisition
on
those
parcels
also
through
the
early
early
part
of
2021,
with
likely
that
same
design
firm
will
be
moving
into
permitting
on
these
parcels
in
2021,
while
we're
constructing
the
smaller
parcels.
So
we're
going
to
try
to
run
these
things
in
series
I'm
rather
or
in
parallel,
rather
rather
than
waiting
it
to
do
them
in
series.
A
So
we
can
kind
of
keep
many
things
going
at
the
same
time
and
then
we'll
move
into
construction
on
those
larger
parcels
likely
towards
the
end
of
2021
early
2022,
depending
on
what
the
permanent
process
is
like.
So
that's
kind
of
just
a
general
sense
of
where
we're
going
with
those
and
what?
What
kind
of
timeline
to
expect
I
think
that
councillor
Griffin
we've
talked
about
this.
C
I've
been
on
council
for
this,
my
third
year,
you
know
next
year
will
be
the
end
of
my
first
term
and
one
thing
that
was
very
important
in
these
first
four
years.
I
thought
was
that
we
needed
to
really
have
a
good,
solid
plan
of
action.
How
we're
gonna
improve
Church
Creek
and
it
seems
to
me,
like
there's,
been
a
lot
of
positivity.
We've
made
a
lot
of
progress,
but
I
still
don't
see
a
succinct
plan
of
how
we're
going
to
attack
it.
C
C
Rome
wasn't
built
in
a
day
and
we
honestly
are
having
to
spend
most
of
our
time
fixing
mistakes
that
were
made
previously
before
our
time
or
mistakes
that
were
made
by
other
entities,
not
necessarily
ourselves
and
I.
Don't
think
people
understand
really
the
relativity
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
I
don't
really
blame
them.
Their
thought
processes.
I've
got
water
in
my
yard.
I've
got
water
in
my
house.
I
didn't
have
that
five
years
ago,
I
had
that
today,
so
no
for
just
our
constituents.
Their
reasoning
is
okay.
Well,
something's,
not
right.
C
We
just
saw
it
last
week
when
we
got
eight
or
nine
inches
in
one
night
at
high
tide,
West
Ashley
I
had
y'all
had
flood
water
in
my
yard.
For
the
first
time
in
two
years
last
week,
James
Island
they
had
water
I
mean
some
people
had
water,
six,
seven
eight
inches
in
their
house.
That
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
we're
not
doing
a
good
job
of
moving
forward
and
making
progress,
because
we
are,
we
are
doing
that.
C
We
just
have
to
be
able
to
understand
why
these
things
are
happening,
what
positive
changes
we've
made
and
how
we
can
explain
to
somebody
on
James
Island
or
somebody
in
suburban
West
Ashley.
Why
there's
still
flood
events
today,
even
though
we
have
made
progress
these
last
couple
of
years,
and
so
I
have
a
tough
time
explaining
that
I
don't
know
about
y'all
people
don't
want
to
hear
well
it
it's
coming.
Changes
are
coming
and
and
we're
gonna
get
there.
They
want
to
hear
that
we're
doing
things
now
and
getting
grants
are
not
sexy.
C
People
don't
want
to
hear
that
they
want
to
hear
that
that
we've
got
an
excavator
coming
to
their
ditch
tomorrow,
to
clean
it
out
so
I'm,
just
wondering
and
I
know
I'm
kind
of
venting
a
little
bit
but
I
just
I
know.
We've
done
a
lot
of
good
things,
but
I
just
wish.
There
was
some
way
that
we
could
concise
that
into
putting
that
out.
C
There
is
literature
for
people,
understand
what
we've
done
and
where
we're
going
and
I
love
I
loved
everything
about
this
discussion
that
we
just
had
and
that
I
think
that's
a
great
game
plan.
But
can
we
see
that
something
that
you
know,
because
I
always
am
afraid
that
six
months
from
now
things
are
gonna
change
and
we're
gonna
have
a
different
game
plan.
C
B
I
think
there's
always
a
good
input.
Mr.
fountain
did
you
address
his.
He
shoot
about
a
plan,
in
other
words,
really.
What
is
the
plan
and
I
was
what's
the
solution
to
alleviate
some
of
the
flooding
that
we
all
are
concerned
about
out
in
that
church
Creek
area?
Is
it
gonna
be
a
pump
station?
Is
it
not
gonna
be
a
pump
station?
Where
are
we
on
it?
It's.
A
A
it's
a
good
question,
mr.
chairman
councillor
effin,
so
that's
been
something
that
we've
tried
to
focus
in
on
Church
Creek
of
saying.
We
need
to
make
sure
we're
not
just
looking
at
the
not
just
looking
at
the
10
or
15
year
down
the
road
solution,
but
actually
making
sure
we're
making
progress
in
the
short
game
as
well.
But
right
we
don't
want
to
lose
sight,
certainly
of
the
kind
of
that
10
year
or
15
year
out
progress
plan,
which
is
what
a
lot
of
large
capital
projects
obviously
take.
A
It
I
think
I
tried
to
lay
out
just
amenity
of
a
sort
of
what
we've
done
in
the
last
about
year,
which
was
most
of
the
acquisition
of
those
and
demolition
on
those
39
homes,
but
then
also
kind
of
what
we're
doing
over
the
next
two
to
three
years.
But
we
can
certainly,
we
did
just
have
our
our
outreach
coordinator,
start
kind
of
right,
literally
at
the
middle
of
the
coronavirus
set
up.
I.
A
Think
what
the
engineers
typically
know,
what
we're
working
through,
but
that's
not
always
easy
to
communicate
back
to
the
citizenry,
so
I
think
that's,
certainly
a
good,
a
good
path
to
get
the
average
coordinator
to
work
and
honest
to
say:
let's,
let's
try
to
make
this
a
little
clearer
and
I
think
we've
talked
about
this
outreach
counselor
committee
in
Church
Creek,
the
citizenry
committee
for
quite
a
while
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
thing
for
them
to
work
on
is
how
do
we?
How
do
we
spread
that
news?
A
These
are
sort
of
the
two
projects
that
were
approachable
with
immediate,
relatively
immediate
benefits
from
we're
talked
about
from
an
engineering
perspective.
In
terms
of
you
know,
one
two,
three
years,
you
learned
something
that
we
could
actually
get
to
work
through.
It
I
don't
want
to
lose
sight
of
what
we
need
to
do
in
the
next
five
to
ten
years,
but
this
is
kind
of
what
we've
been
focusing
on
in
the
last.
The
last
six
to
twelve
months
is
trying
to
ramp
up
and
get
get
something
underway,
but
you're
right.
A
B
Feldman,
what
we
can
we
again
use
technology,
for
example,
anything,
and
they
are
things
being
done,
such
as
you
just
mentioned,
but
is
there
a
way
we
can
build
a
website
on
accomplishments
in
different
areas
of
the
city,
because
we
working
obviously
on
multiple
fronts.
You
know
when
certain
things
are
done,
it'd
be
great.
If
people
just
can,
for
example,
I
just
earlier
today,
I
clicked
on
the
own
webcam
site
for
the
International
African
American
Museum,
there's
a
camera
up
there
that
you
can
click
on.
B
You
can
actually
the
guys
out
there
working
right
now,
but
also
it
is
bed.you
in
two
different
occurrences
with
the
I
am,
for
example,
it
had
one
wouldn't
were
a
religious
program
that
was
done.
It
had
one
with
dr.
another
video
with
dr.
Lonnie
bunch
and
addressing
who's
who's.
The
president
of
the
Smithsonian,
all
the
Smithsonian
museums,
I'm,
talking
about
important
to
the
I
am,
and
it
went
on
there
a
half
a
dozen
things.
If
you
want
we're
so
inclined
to
click
on
all
of
them,
all
of
them
very
valuable.
B
B
You
know,
twelve
months
later,
almost
like
we
didn't
do
it
uh-huh,
it's
almost
like
what's
next
on
the
agenda,
but
we're
actually
building
some
pretty
good
I.
Remember
when
all
those
people
were
crying
to
be
bought
out
now
we're
talking
about
a
grassy
area
that
you
know
those
people
hopefully
moved
on
the
house
drop
housing
at
a
dryer
site,
but
is
there
where
we
can
if
I
want
to
click
on
what's
happening
on
James
Allen,
on
John
down,
South
Windermere
or
you
know
areas
West
Ashley
or
on
the
peninsula?
B
A
Is
it
is
a
good
place?
That's
a
large
part.
We
brought
the
outreach
coordinator
on
for
in
in
part
because
we
actually
do
have
a
lot
of
that
information
available
on
our
website
itself
and
that
people
just
don't
know
it's
there,
because
we
haven't
done
a
good
job
of
getting
it
out.
We
actually
do
have
like
a
live
camera
and
panoramas
of
the
low-battery
construction.
A
We
do
have
a
live
camera
for
the
spring
fishburne
construction,
where
you
can
watch
the
construction,
we
do
have
a
project
storyboard
that
actually
GIS
helped
us
build
previously,
where
you
can
go
through
kind
of
the
projects
we've
built
over
the
last
few
years
and
where
they
are
and
what's
what
we're
working
on
different
different
areas,
but
they're
the
general
hard
to
find
they're,
not
necessarily
well
publicized.
That's
the
challenge
generally
with
engineers
right
engineers
are
pretty
much
focused
on
doing
the
work,
not
necessarily
talking
about
the
work.
So
we
did.
A
We
did
have
the
budget
committee
and
then
council
allow
us
to
hire
that
outreach
coordinator
position
and
do
exactly
what
you're
talking
about.
If
say,
hey,
let's
make
this
a
little
more
user
friendly.
Let's
make
it
more
visible
and
let's
do
a
better
job,
getting
the
word
out
about
it,
so
that
people
are
aware
that
is
there
because
you're
right
we're
doing
we're
doing
a
ton
of
great
work.
It's
just
trying
to
make
sure
people
understand
where
we've
been
and
where
we're
going
like
Councilman
Griffin
was
talking
about
right.
C
A
good
example
of
that
honestly
was
one
of
the
campaign
literature's
that
the
mayor
sent
out
word
had
a
map
of
the
city
or
the
map
of
West
Ashley,
the
little
dots
all
around
from
different
projects.
When
be
sure
they
actually
won
an
award
for
that,
but
would
it
be
cool
if
we
had
a
website
like
you're,
saying
that
it
was
a
map
of
Charleston
and
it
had
dots
of
all
of
the
different
things
that
we
had
been
doing
last
five
to
ten
years?
C
So
people
could
click
on
and
say:
oh
that's,
a
great
project
that
they
did
there
and
I
mean.
That
would
be
something
that
would
be
really
innovative,
I.
Think
for
our
city,
especially
since
now
you
know
we're
gonna.
Our
whole
game
plan
is
changing
with
what
we're
dealing
with
right
now
and
we're
gonna
have
to
you
know
all
of
us.
C
Our
City
Council,
our
staff
and
all
of
our
residents
are
gonna,
have
to
be
really
patient
right
now,
because
we're
gonna
have
to
to
make
a
lot
of
changes,
but
it
would
be
good
to
show
them
all
of
the
progress
that
we've
been
able
to
make.
These
past
few
years,
just
so
things
change
this
year
and
then
to
next
year
we
can
say:
look
we're
not
forgetting
about
all
these
projects.
C
We
just
have
to
make
sure
that
we
have
all
of
our
priorities
in
order
to
set
us
up
again
for
the
future
and
here's
a
look
at
all
the
projects
we
we've
accomplished
in
the
last
five
years
and
how
these
projects
can
lead
to
much
bigger
successes
as
a
whole.
Like
we
talked
about
Bridge
Point,
eventually,
Bridge
Point
is
gonna,
be
a
really
great
passive,
Park,
I.
Think
and
I
know.
C
The
mayor
and
I
we're
gonna
have
a
meeting
over
there
to
discuss
what
we
could
do
over
there
and
that's
kind
of
been
put
on
hold,
but
this
virus,
but
you're
talking
about
four
acres
over
there
and
I
think
a
pretty
low
cost
to
make
that
a
really
effective
space
I
mean
it
is
beautiful.
Over
there
the
grass
is
growing
in
I
think
for
a
relatively
low
cost
for
a
park.
You're
gonna
have
a
really
really
great
space
and
we're
gonna.
It's
gonna
be
a
night
and
day
difference,
I
mean
just
a
couple
years
ago.
C
It
was
you
know,
a
condominium
complex
that
look
like
a
ghost
town,
and
here
it
is
gonna,
be
something
positive
and
that's
I
said
that
we
all
can
send
out
our
constituents
as
hey
as
a
city,
we're
looking
at
taking
some
negatives
and
turning
them
into
big
positives,
and
that
gives
people
hope
and
that's
what
we're
gonna
need
to
get
through
this
thing
together.
So
oh
yeah
I
agree.
D
D
E
E
So
more
to
come
on
that,
but
back
to
councilmember,
Griffin's
original
observation
which,
which
frankly
I
concur
with
that
and
maybe
we're
at
a
point
now,
math
and
and
everyone
where
we
can
at
least
list
out
more
of
the
long-term
plan
for
the
basin.
What
what
happened?
You
know
we,
starting
with
the
big
rain
back
in
2015,
we're
really
wandering
in
the
dark,
and
we
had
Horner
and
Weston
Sampson
do
that
study
and
they
had
those
certain
recommendations.
E
D
You,
mr.
chairman-
and
you
know,
we
started
off
this
talking
before
the
meeting
began
about
zoom
meetings
and
new
technology
that
we
have
available
to
us
and
to
sort
of
hotel
councilor
Griffin
are
talking
about.
Is
that
getting
information
now
to
our
constituents
is
critical
as
to
what
is
taking
place,
and
you
know
O'brien
still
along
with
us,
you
know
picking
up
for
us
at
the
trash
debris,
the
last
two
or
three
weeks.
I
know
they
were
working
there.
D
We're
ends
off
on
that
and
my
appreciation
to
Matt
for
all
the
work
that
he
did,
but
just
getting
the
information
out
to
our
constituents
a
lot
better.
It
just
makes
all
of
our
jobs
a
whole
lot
easier.
Folks
want
to
know
what
we're
doing
when
we
were
doing
it,
wherever
we're
doing
it
and
how
we
did
and
we're
doing
it.
I
mean
the
proofs
in
the
pudding
with
all
of
us
and
I've
been
busted
about.
D
You
know
getting
this
out
a
little
bit
better
on
scheduling
and
something
as
simple
as
when
is
that
truck
gonna
come
down,
Gilmore,
Street
or
windy
Lane
and
whatever
piece
of
property
I
mean
they
did
a
great
job
considered
me
what
they
were
working
with
and
all
that,
but
a
lot
of
the
calls
we
had
my
last
weekend,
particularly
with
this
huge
downpour
I
know
we
all
did
we
all
got
these
calls.
You
know
come
out
and
see
what
is
happening
in
my
backyard.
How
see?
What's
happened
on
my
street?
D
It's
just
a
matter
of
being
able
to
communicate
that
to
our
constituents
and
also
what
councilmember
Griffin
has
brought
up.
Is
that
they're?
Looking
for
some
of
the
simple
stuff
to
be
done?
I
know:
we've
got
this
money
set
aside
some
of
these
projects
in
the
priority
list.
We've
been
dealing
with
her
past
several
meetings,
but
they're
also
looking
for
how
we
gonna
have
regular
maintenance
on
our
on
our
ditches
and
what
kind
of
schedule
we
have
on
doing
that
so
I
mean
I,
think
we're
all
talking
about
the
same
thing.
D
D
We
can
eliminate
me
being
the
middleman
a
lot
of
this
stuff
if
our
constituents
were
just
made
aware
a
lot
better,
what
we're
doing
where
we
doing
it
and
how
we
doing
it
and
come
up
with
a
better
plan
with
all
of
that,
so
I
think
that
the
next
meeting
we
just
need
to
come
up
with
something
more
concrete,
as
opposed
to
us
just
repeating
ourselves
and
talking
about
this,
we
can
you
know
as
you,
you
see.
This
often
counts.
Mr.
chairman,
we
can
do
better
and.
B
D
B
You
councilman
mr.
mayor,
maybe
we
can
put
a
slot
on
the
agenda
for
the
new
person.
That's
been
hired
as
they
begin
to
ramp
up.
They
can
report
on
to
this
committee
because
either
that
or
we'll
just
be
having
this
conversation
again,
I
think
some
great
ideas
have
been
thrown
out.
I
think
one
action
step
is
I
know
it's
a
new
person
but
as
they
begin
to
coordinate
with
mr.
fountain
and
the
activities,
maybe
that
person
can
report
on
a
regular
basis
to
this
committee
as
well.
We'd.
E
A
Want
to
give
a
little
bit
of
time
for
our
average
Court
here
to
get
up
to
speed
I
think
we
buried
her
under.
You
know
at
least
a
year's
worth
of
trying
to
learn
how
stormwater
management
works
and
bring
all
of
our
websites
and
our
projects
and
everything
else
up
to
speed.
So
I
know
she's
she's,
pretty
much,
not
breathing
much
trying
to
get
through
all
that,
but
I
do
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
get
her
will.
B
B
G
Just
want
to
echo
everybody's
comments
here
today.
I
think
it's.
These
are
all
great
points
and
we
all
can
do
you
know.
There's
there's
like
the
mayor
said:
I
mean
this
is
a
learning
process
for
society.
The
city
public
nonprofits
I
mean
this
has
just
been
the
issue.
That's
been
kind
of
neglected
in
the
corner
for
a
long
time.
It
just
so
happens
to
be.
You
know
one
of
the
most
important
issues
that
we
face.
I
mean
in
in
my
vision.
G
The
Dutch
dialogues
was
driving
at
I
mean
our
stormwater
department
needs
to
become
as
ubiquitous
as
our
Police
Department
and
as
our
fire
department,
as
our
our
trash
pickup
I
mean
I.
Think
that
you
know
I
sure
have
learned
a
whole
lot
over
the
last
year
or
so
involving
this
issue
and
the
public
needs
to
as
well,
because
you
know
Matt
I,
don't
think
would
say
this
in
a
committee
meeting.
But
you
know
his
department
is
asked
to
do
a
tremendous
amount
of
stuff
with
limited
resources
so
yeah.
G
You
know
this
I
mean
we're
just
not
even
close
in
my,
in
my
humble
opinion,
we're
just
not
even
close
to
being
set
up
from
a
state
standpoint
from
a
regional
standpoint
from
a
county
standpoint
from
city
standpoint
to
be
funding
like
forget
about
the
big
sexy
infrastructure
projects.
You
know
the
Army
Corps
thing:
Springs
fish
or
I'm
talking
easement
acquisition,
regular
maintenance,
the
the
stuff
that's
just-
and
this
is
the
stuff-
that's
most
predominant
in
James
Island
and
West
Ashley.
G
So,
by
getting
this
issue
more
out
into
the
public
better,
you
know
raising
the
profile.
Raising
the
visibility
of
what
stormwater
management
is.
What
Matt's
Department
does
will
help
us
when
it
comes
time
to
make
those
important
and
difficult
pushes
on
the
funding
side
of
things
so
that
he
and
his
department
and
his
team,
his
folks
will,
you
know,
which
are
doing
an
unbelievable
job.
Right
now
can
have
start
developing.
G
The
sort
of
you
know
community
buy-in
necessary
to
take
this
whole
enterprise
to
the
next
level,
which
is
really
what
we
need
when
you
start
talking
about
the
kind
of
proactive
maintenance
of
the
proactive
management
that
you
would
need
to
make
sure
we're
prepped
for
the
kind
of
events
that
we
got
last
week.
That's
we're
gonna
need
so
I
think
this
is
a
wonderful
discussion
and
I
think
we
we
need
to
continue
it.
So.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
Thank
You
chairman,
yes,
so
item
item
two
is
sort
of
a
direct
follow-on
from
item
one
in
that
it's
the
the
next
round
of
the
National
Fish
and
Wildlife
Foundation
grant
opportunities
the
nitwit,
which
is
their
kind
of
their
annual
they'd.
This
forego
twice
a
year,
but
major
grant
award
or
grant
application
opportunity.
The
project
that
we
wanted
to
bring
Public
Works
utilities
up
to
speed
on
the
project
that
we're
considering
for
application
on
this
one
is
the
downstream
improvements
to
Long
Branch
Creek.
A
This
is
downstream,
obviously,
of
the
the
pipe
improvements
from
like
daughter,
er
that
we've
talked
about
where
we're
working
with
the
county
on
their
Glenn
McConnell
widening
project
to
try
to
install
some
additional
capacity
under
Glenn
McConnell,
which
then
ties
like
daughter,
has
its
own
flooding
issues
like
daughter,
also
experiences
flow
in
from
church
Creek.
So
that
was,
as
was
mentioned,
part
of
Weston
Santa
samson's
review
of
improvement
of
Church
Creek
Basin
is
providing
an
additional
outfall
pathway
here
by
reconnecting
an
old
old
Creek
system.
A
Weston
Sampson
is
doing
that
work
for
us
as
well
I'm
looking
at
the
permit
in
and
the
work
with
with.
Do
T,
however,
the
more
modeling
and
research
we've
done
it.
We've
talked
about
the
more
it's
clear
in
order
to
fully
realize
improvements
in
the
church,
Creek
Basin.
You
also
need
to
do
improvements
to
Long
Branch
Creek,
not
just
improvements
to
the
current
constriction
under
Glenn
McConnell.
This
is
a
project
that
Noah
has
been
looking
at
for
a
long
time
as
doing
some
research
and
natural
systems.
A
Work
in
the
Long
Branch
Creek
system
know
is
actually
the
funding
agency
for
the
National,
Fish
and
Wildlife
Foundation
is
where
they
receive
a
lot
of
their
funding.
So
we're
part
we're
partnering
with
looking
to
partner
with
Noah
on
this
application
to
say:
let's
go
back
down
through
kind
of
this
old
Bryce
dike
system.
It
has
some
constrictions
with
price
tags.
Has
some
constrictions
with
the
Greenway
actually
highway?
A
17
is
a
constriction,
though,
certainly
a
much
larger
project
and
we're
looking
at
in
this
first
round
of
improvements,
and
it
fits
very
well
and
again
with
NIF,
with
only
funds
project
work
that
is
based
on
natural
systems,
floodplains
wetlands
trying
to
bring
kind
of
back
a
a
natural
habitat,
as
well
as
create
flood
resiliency.
It
also
ties
in
to
most
grant
agencies
like
to
support
work
that
builds
upon
earlier
work
that
they've
awarded,
so
it
builds
upon
the
church
creek
grants
that
we've
we've
received
and
again
it.
A
They
also
like
to
a
reward
multiple
government
agencies
working
together,
which
this
one
again
we
have
the
county,
the
city
and
NOAA
all
looking
to
contribute
to
this
grant
opportunity.
So
I
think
it's
it's.
Where
we're
looking
right
now,
we've
been
in
some
discussion
with
with
NIF
wife
and
know
about
it
and
I
just
want
to
bring
Public
Works
utilities
up
to
speed
on
it
and
getting
the
input
from
the
committee
before
we
come
back.
You
know
in
a
month,
or
so
with
potentially
a
request
for
a
an
application.
Mr.
B
A
Know
it's
pretty
common
throughout
the
low
country
that
a
lot
of
the
roads
that
were
constructed
they
they
either
would
match
whatever
small
pipe
had
been
there
before
in
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
Charleston
Worcester
roads.
Not
that
long
ago,
a
lot
of
the
roads
we
see
are
part
of
the
farm
to
market
road
system.
Not
that
long
ago,
I
think
what
they
would
frequently
do
is
just
say:
well,
this
road
had
a
pipe
roughly
this
size
in
it.
A
We'll
build
that
same
pipe
in
when
we
built
a
full
paved
major
road
system,
but
often
that
drainage
likely
either
overtopped
and
the
other
road
would
wash
out
and
they'd
replace
the
pipe
or
there'd
be
other
situations.
There
certainly
hasn't
historically
been
an
evaluation
of.
Is
this
pipe
appropriately
sized
for
the
overall
watershed?
I
mean
we
see
this
on
Forest
Acres,
it's
like
round
road.
We
see
it
on
Glenn
McConnell.
In
this
situation,
you
can
see
it
on
main
road.
There's
some
challenges
with
the
the
different
pipe
situations,
but
it's
it.
A
I
could
go
on
and
on
about
this,
but
you're
you're
exactly
right
got
the
Sherman
that
this
has
been
a.
This
has
been
a
real
challenge
of
trying
to
deal
with
these
constrictions
I.
Think
councilman
Jackson
as
I
was
on
the
call
and
she
Central
Park
Road.
This
is
one
of
the
major
hang-ups
on
the
whole
Central
Park
watershed
is
that
that
road
has
massively
undersized
pipes
in
the
system
and
then
what
happens
as
you
build
a
major
road
like
that
and
everyone
who's
developing
Road,
developing
their
properties
goes
downstream
or
upstream
and
says.
A
B
A
Have
changed
the
city's
manual
that
you
can't
do
that
you
have
to
do
that
Basin
analysis.
So,
from
a
city
ms4
perspective,
you
have
to
actually
look
at
how
much
water
is
coming
to
your
area.
You
can't
just
rely
upon
the
fact
that
the
pipe
upstream
is
a
smaller
pipe.
We've
we've
made
that
one
of
our
major
pushes
because
that's
exactly
what
happened
in
barbary,
Woods
is
one
pipe
was
miss
sized
and
then
all
the
following
pipes
were
miss
eyes
and
it
created
an
almost
uncorrectable
challenge
for
any
kind
of
small-scale
project.
A
It
turns
into
a
major
project.
It's
something
that
DoD
I
think
is
doing
much
better
on
it.
They
also
are
trying
to
require
you
to
look
at
service
area
for
pipes
when
there
are
outside
sources
doing
work,
but
it
is
an
area
that
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time,
focusing
on
as
a
city
of
trying
identify
where
are
these
constrictions
on
our
roads
and
on
dot4
roads
to
make
sure
that
as
new
projects
come
in,
everyone
is
aware
of
what
the
issue
is,
so
they
can
get
addressed
and
fix
this
part
of
the
project.
Thank.
B
A
Yeah,
it
is
thank
you,
miss
Sherman,
so
f3
is
one
we've
sort
of
brought
this
up
a
few
times
over
the
last
few
months
and
I
think
it
generally
gets
cut
off
for
time
because
our
meetings
tend
to
go
on
for
a
little.
Oh
well.
Sometimes
it's
been
sort
of
in
a
few
different
areas,
but
it's
it's
just
trying
to
get
again
the
the
committee
up
to
speed
on
where
we
stand
with
the
pump
stations.
D
A
Is
primarily
we'll
be
talking
about
the
Concord
Street
pump
station,
which
serves
what's
known,
as
you
know,
the
the
Calhoun
East
basin
in
the
Market
Street
Basin,
so
it
serves
a
lot
of
the
east
side
of
the
the
peninsula.
The
the
pump
station
was
installed
over
20
years
ago.
There
was
an
up
sizing
when
the
Market
Street
project
went
in.
They
added
another
pump
into
the
system
and
to
hold
that
of
approving
work
when
they
tied
into
that
tunnel.
But
it
is,
it
is
an
older
station.
It
operates
in
very
harsh
conditions.
A
It's
something
that
we've
started
to
see
over
the
last
year
or
some
progressive
maintenance
challenges.
We've
had
some.
We
had
to
upgrade
the
computer
systems
because
they
were
no
longer
supporting
some
of
the
computer
systems
and
an
IT
perspective,
not
our
IT
department,
but
IT
is
a
international
subject
matter
that
these
were.
These
were
devices
that
were
no
longer
supported
by
the
manufacturers,
we're
starting
to
see
a
little
bit
more
challenge
with
having
to
have
kind
of
emergency
responses
to
the
pumps.
A
So
we
did
come
in
about
six
months
ago,
we
went
through
and
developed
a
like
a
true
20-year
onm
plan
for
the
station
for
both
actually
saying
here's
all
the
work
that
really
should
be
done
on
recurring
20
year
cycles
and
when
replacements
are
necessary
kind
of
doing
the
true
miniaturized
capital
/
O&M
plan
for
these
stations.
I
did
want
to
kind
of
bring
the
three
up
to
speed
on
that.
That
hasn't
really
been
historically
how
the
pump
stations
have
been
treated.
So
there
is
again
quite
a
bit
of
deferred
maintenance
on
these
systems.
A
It
was
one
of
the
things
we'd
recommended
in
the
small
project
category
because
of
how
much
how
much
cost
there
is
and
deferred
work
that's
looming
without
kind
of
a
existing
budget
allocation,
we'll
talk
about
it
in
budget
ad-hoc
again
this
year
as
well.
Now
that
we're
up
to
speed
and
aware
of
what
it
is,
but
you
know
basically
we're
dealing
with
a
set
of
primary
pumps,
they're
generally
20
years
old,
in
a
series
of
like
electrical
systems
and
control
systems
that
are
also
similar
age
and
are
mostly
no
longer
manufacturer.
Supported.
A
We've
been
very
fortunate
in
that
we
have
a
really
spectacular
company
that
works
with
us
to
kind
of
hand,
rebuild
a
lot
of
these
systems
and
pumps
each
time
we've
had
them
going
down
over
the
last
year
or
two,
but
there
is
a
I
guess,
increasing
risk,
obviously
with
it
eventually
something
breaks
that
you
can
can't
retrofit.
So
we
we
do
have.
We
do
have
a
scope
for
the
kind
of
preliminary
engineering
to
go
in
and
basically
upfit
the
electrical
systems,
the
mechanical
pump
systems
and
control
systems.
A
But
this
is
something
that's
going
to
become
it's.
It's
always
easy
to
defer,
which
so
I
want
to
kind
of
get
the
committee
up
to
speed
on
it's
easy
to
kind
of
push
back
on
maintenance
and
defer
maintenance,
because
it's
not
as
exciting
as
capital
projects.
It's
not
as
exciting
as
this
new
work.
But
this
is
this
system
really
is
an
important
system
for
us
that
maintains
a
lot
of
the
east
side
of
the
peninsula.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
let
you
know,
as
you
see
see,
proposals
come
in
and
see
funding
requests
coming
for
these
that
it
that
it
is
important
and
see
if
there
are
any
questions
or
again,
any
information
I
can
provide
as
counselor.
If,
let's
talk
about
earlier,
what
what
information
does
the
committee
need
basically
to
help
make
decisions
on
these
these
kinds
of
situations?
You
know.
B
What
mr.
fountain
I
think
our
the
whole
idea
of
essential
work
or
essential
workers
is
taking
on
a
whole
new
look
after
this
virus
and
believe
the
nut,
and
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
councilman
Appel
alluded
to.
Is
it's
not
sexy,
but
you
know
what
God
knows
it's
needed.
So,
oh
we
got
a
father.
B
We
shouldn't
have
to
apologize,
so
update
maintenance,
I
mean
and
I
know
you
wasn't
apologizing,
but
it's
something
that
should
be
forthright
I
mean
it's
something
that
that
moves
us
forward.
So
we
got
to
find
a
way
to
put
a
positive
spin
and
somebody
when
we
did
the
half
cent
sales
tax.
Mr.
mayor,
you
may
remember
this:
we
had
a
number
of
referendums
and
when
we
finally
got
it
passed
after
a
couple
times
have
passed
and
you
remember:
Joey
Duan
took
it
to
court
and
all
of
that
kind
of
good
stuff.
B
But
after
that
I'll
never
forget.
We
made
mention
that
any
time
a
project
was
done
with
half
cent
sales
tax
money
there
would
be
signage
out
there.
That's
where
we
all
got
used
to
seeing
this
Halfpenny
on
those
sides.
Whatever
rules,
it
was
whatever
intersection
that
had
monies
that
came
out
of
that
one
point:
two
billion
dollars
funding,
so
people
would
know
hey.
This
is
part
of
my
increase
in
taxes,
so
that
kind
of
gets
back
to
what
you're
saying
councilman.
My
pal
people
come
out
to
clean
the
ditch
I
mean
those
people
should
be.
B
We
need
to
have
something
positive
out
there
when
and
those
crews
are
out
there.
So
people
will
know
this
is
ongoing.
You
were
trying
to
help
your
neighborhood.
We
can
file
our
better
way
to
marker,
but
it
definitely
needs
to
be
something
seen
as
a
positive
as
opposed
to
it's
about
time,
tight
down
my
attitude
frankly,
that
some
of
those
guys
and
ladies
run
into
any
input
from
councilmembers
on
the
pump
station
or
the
maintenance
of
that
mr.
Collins
just
addressed.
E
The
other
night
and
the
corner
of
Calhoun
Street
and
his
meeting
would
probably
at
least
four,
if
not
six
feet
deep
Julia.
We
leave
in
an
hour
within
one
hour
just
a
good
summer
afternoon,
thunderstorms
and
you
could
not
go
through
that
intersection
and
that
does
not.
It
has
not
happened
in
the
last
20
years
and
not
many
people.
Remember
that
and
I.
Remember
the
property
owners
on
the
on
the
corner,
issues
to
call
Mae
Riley
and.
E
There'd
be
some
very
interesting
conversation,
so
speaking
of
the
PR
of
so
we
still
have
to
celebrate
some
of
those
things,
but
also
it's
really
hit
me
in
the
head
here.
How
important
the
maintenance
of
that
system
is.
I
know
we,
like
matter
or
you
said
you
doing
the
new
project
and
solving
something
new
is
so
so
great
to
do,
but
that
was
a
big
accomplishment,
not
just
for
that.
Intersection.
Look
for
all
of
upper
meeting
Street
right.
B
B
E
E
B
D
B
Well,
as
I
said,
setting
the
meeting
start
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
that
there's
a
couple
of
new
business
items,
I
want
to
bring
up.
I
got
a
report
on
the
recent
downpour,
that's
in
Phillip
and
reckless
Street.
Mr.
Felton
flooded,
which
is
I,
mean
that's
one
of
the
high
routes
to
get
out
of
town,
so
I'm
thinking,
maybe
a
drainage
of
something
was
clogged
over
there.
Oh,
we
need
to
look
down
some
types
of
something,
but
that's
where
some
Patrick's
churches,
mr.
Muir,
that's
where
the
st.
Patrick's
Day
parade
begins.
B
Now
I
was
going
to
ask
mr.
fountain
to
provide
an
update
on
the
city's
general
storm
maintenance
operations
not
today,
but
maybe
that
could
be
part
of
the
scheme
and
things
I'm
was
gonna.
Ask
councilman
Ross
Appel.
He
touched
on
it
earlier,
but
maybe
he
could
touch.
You
know
a
little
bit
more
specifics
than
any
other
councilmen
may
have
for
there.
G
Yeah
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,
you
know
I
think
again
going
back
to
the
episode
we
had
last
week,
I
think
kind
of
brought
a
lot
of
issues
of
flooding
back
on
people's
radar.
G
Certainly
constituents
and
and
I
think
I
speak
for
every
council
member
here
today
and,
and
you
know,
I
reached
out
to
Matt
and
so
went
over
it
kind
of
renewed
my
understanding
of
sort
of
the
city's
process,
sort
of
on
the
pre
storm
event,
preparation
and
also
the
post,
storm
event,
recovery
and
and
Matt
provided
a
wonderful
explanation
about
you
know
what
the
city's
practices
are,
what
they
do
and
I
just
thought.
It
would
be
good
to
kind
of
share
that
perspective.
G
B
A
I
think
it
counts
when
a
fellow
yes
yeah
it
is,
it
is
something
we
spend
a
lot
of
effort
on
it's
when
we
basically
see
a
predicted
storm,
especially
one
like
that,
where
we're
expecting
more
than
a
half
an
inch
or
an
inch
of
rain,
especially
if
there's
a
chance
of
high
tides
like
there
was.
For
this
event,
we
will.
We
have
what
are
called
rain
day
schedules
for.
Basically,
the
the
crews
are
put
on
two
inspections
of
sort
of
known
problem
areas
around
the
city,
and
they
go
do
visual
inspections
to
see.
A
If
there's
any
obvious
clog
in
Athens,
they
can
address
or
fix
on
the
day
or
two
before
the
storm
and
then
immediately
following
the
storm
in
the
next
next
couple
of
days
of
work
as
well.
They'll
go
through
and
look
for
any
where
there
is
standing
water,
where
there
is
an
accumulation
of
debris,
one
of
the
real
challenges
we
get
and
the
storms,
especially
if
you
get
a
storm
like
we
did
the
other
day
which
helped.
Luckily
we
don't
get
those
too
often.
A
But
when
you
get
a
heavy
like
a
heavy
flooding
where
you
start
seeing
water
really
moving
down
gutters
or
coming
up
onto
front
lawns,
you
see
a
lot
of
debris
generally
get
picked
up
from
people
like
kind
of
having
their
their
yard
debris
out
on
the
curbs
and
that
debris
gets
picked
up
and
then
immediately
yeah
I
get
somebody
pulled
down
the
drain
to
obviously
to
where
the
the
next
pipe
or
great
Inlet
ISM.
It
flows
with
the
water
to
where
the
water's
trying
to
go
generally.
A
A
lot
of
our
systems
are
sized
to
handle
some
of
that.
But
if
you
get
a
piece
that
gets
clot
like
stuck
or
clogged
across
a
pipe
or
across
a
grade,
you
know
the
first
piece
gets
stuck
and
then
acts
kind
of
like
a
sieve
and
it
it
collects
a
few
sticks.
And
then
the
sticks
stuck
in
the
large
piece
and
then
the
stakes
start
to
accumulate,
leaves
and
then
the
leaves
start
to
accumulate
dirt.
And
it's
basically
a
big
filter,
bringing
all
that
water
through
and
you
get
a
really
good
clog.
A
A
But
that's
exactly
what
we're
talking
about
is
how
much
debris
can
you
remove
on
a
typical
system
like
that,
so
the
that
was
kind
of
a
long
way
of
saying
that
the
the
post
cleaning
is
almost
as
important
as
the
pre
cleaning,
because
you
don't
want
to
have
it
immediately
flood
in
your
next
rainstorm
after
the
first
spring
storm?
This
time
we
got
lucky
and
we
had
a
few
days
of
really
nice
weather
and
heat,
but
sometimes
we'll
get
a
follow
up
thunderstorm
the
next
day,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
clean
that
out.
A
A
Is
you
always
have
to
remember
that
we
have
about
40
total
people
about
20
people
10
to
20
people
who
are
doing
and
clean,
ditch
work,
and
then
we
have
another
10
to
20
people
who
are
doing
6
factor
trucks
and
basically
a
couple
of
back
hoes
and
a
couple
of
mini
excavators
and
masonry
crews,
so
that
yeah
I
think
each
one
of
you
can
probably
think
of
at
least
three
or
four
or
five
neighborhoods.
You
would
like
us
to
check
pre
each
storm.
A
So
when
we
do
that,
we
we
do
try
to
catch
the
obvious
clogs,
but
we
do
miss
things.
I
mean
if
there's,
if
there's
a
clog
inside
the
pipe
like
we're,
not
out
cameryn
every
pipe
pre-storm
we're
not
out
cameryn
every
pipe
post
storm.
We
do
rely
somewhat
on
standing
water
and
reports
of
standing
water
to
go
back
and
clean,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
we've
noticed
we
switched
over
to
a
you
know:
proactive
maintenance
program
about
a
year
ago
trying
to
go
through.
A
You
know,
Street
by
street,
pipe
by
pipe
through
the
through
the
city.
As
best
we
can,
while
still
managing
some
of
our
work
requests,
is
there
art?
You
know
large
number
of
pipes
and
systems
that
have
you
know
long
standing
clogs
in
them,
I
think
customer
you
just
mentioned
Philip
and
Red
Cliff
and
we
will
find,
will
find
streets
not
infrequently
that
clearly
have
been
clogged
for
some
time.
I
mean
we'll
find
streets
where
we
know
we've
cleaned
them
recently
and
they're
clogged
again,
which
happened
in
some
of
our
our
watersheds.
A
So
it's
I
think
that's
where
it
comes.
M'appelle
was
touched
on
this
earlier
that
it
is
kind
of
important
remember
what
level
of
service
we
can
provide.
I
mean
I
I,
try
to
kind
of
get
across
the
sense
to
residents.
Sometimes
I
know
it's
easy
to
frustrate.
It
and
I'd
certainly
understand,
understand
or
hear
them
when
they're
talking
about
how
frustrating
it
is
to
have
flooding
occurring,
but
our
crews
really
don't
consider
it's
not
it's
not
more.
Like
a
fire
department
where
we
kind
of
yeah
there's
some
sitting
and
waiting
for
an
emergency
to
occur.
A
For
us
I
mean
we're
proactively
working
every
day.
We
just
don't
have
the
capacity
to
get
everything
nearly
as
often
as
we
want
to
be
getting
to
system,
so
we
are
right
now
trying
to
go
through
again,
proactively
clean
we're
still
coming
up
with
the
final
schedule
for
how
long
that'll
take,
but
we're
thinking
at
least
three
more
years,
just
to
proactively
get
back
to
having
cleaned
most
of
our
systems
over
the
last
four
years.
One.
A
You
know
one
time
at
that
point
we'd
like
to
get
to
where
we
can
at
least
inspect
our
whole
system
once
a
year,
but
even
that
is
still
not
not
really
where
I
know
a
lot
of
residents
would
like
us
to
be.
But
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
challenge.
We
was
talking
about
O&M
costs
versus
capital
costs,
I
mean
this.
A
Pushes
us
right
back
into
that
same
question
of
you
know:
in
a
fixed
in
a
fixed
funding
situation,
the
more
project
work,
the
less
maintenance
work,
the
more
maintenance
work,
the
less
project,
work,
they're,
both
incredibly
important
and
they're.
Both
piece
of
the
puzzle
and
that's
part
of
what
we're
doing
with
this
proactive
system
is
trying
to
figure
out.
What
is
the
right
balance
and
what
do
we
need?
So
we're
not
just
telling
you
as
you
like
it
officials?
Well,
it's
not
enough.
A
We
need
to
be
able
to
tell
you
well
what
what
is
it
that
we
need
in
order
to
hit
different
levels
of
service?
So
that's
that's
the
work
that
we're
trying
to
put
together
now
is
in
with
this
proactive
maintenance.
Okay,
here's
here's
where
we
are
here's
what
we
can
do
with
what
we
have
here's,
how
much
would
cost
you
get
to
this?
You
know
whatever
the
next
level
is
and
then
a
next
level
about
that,
and
we
need
to
make
decisions
on
what
our
priorities
are
for
moving
forward.
Okay,
mr.
Muir.
E
Yeah
I
don't
want
to
interrupt
anybody's
comments
response
to
mr.
fountain,
but
mr.
chairman
I,
don't
know
if
word
got
to
you.
Speaking
of
new
things
to
talk
about,
I
had
asked
mark
Wilbert
to
be
on
the
call
I
asked
last
week.
As
you
know,
speaking
of
sexy
projects,
that
was
the
terminus
council
member
of
values,
the
Corps
of
Engineers,
you
know
release
their
preliminary
plan.
There's
been
a
lot
of
reaction
to
that.
Most
of
the
public
comments
we
have
so
far
for
tomorrow
night
are
regarding
that.
E
B
B
B
B
Well,
okay,
thank
you
so
much!
Thank
you.
If
you
couldn't
sleep
at
your
leisure,
send
me
a
copy
of
that
letter
when
you
get
it
changed
plea!
Okay,
thank
you.
Unless
to
any
other
input,
I'll
go
to
mr.
Fellini
council
members,
I'll
go
to
mr.
Walberg
hearing
now.
Mr.
will
pitch
now.
I'd
like
you
up,
okay,.
H
Thank
you,
mr.
chairman,
then
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
with
you
for
a
couple
of
different
things
and
we'll
go
right
to
this.
So
what
I'm
just
going
to
do
is
very
briefly.
Take
you
through
the
study
and
then
please
stop
me
and
ask
me
questions
if
you
saw
fire,
you
probably
know
a
lot
of
this
and
I.
Don't
know
how
much
time
you
want
to
spend
on
it,
but
getting
through
this
project
very
quickly.
H
B
H
This
was
the
entire
project
area
in
red
and
was,
as
you
can
tell,
if
you
look
at
the
you
know,
I
just
want
to
see
this
for
a
minute.
It
talks
about
the
value
of
the
structures
on
the
peninsula,
so
this
whole
project
is
based
on
a
a
process
that
looks
at
what
will
it
protect
and
is
it
going
to
cost
and
that
from
that
equation,
you
get
what's
known
as
federal
interest
in
a
cost-benefit
ratio.
I
think
it's
around,
like
you're
blocking
my
view
here.
H
It's
about
14
billion
dollars
all
better
for
teen
billion
dollars
of
assets
on
the
peninsula,
and
this
project
is
due
to
cost
about
1.75
billion
dollars.
You
don't
drive
their
cost
benefit
from
that,
but
that's
just
a
a
good
understanding
of
the
magnitude
of
dollars
that
we're
talking
about.
In
addition
to
that,
you've
got
your
cultural
resources,
our
Keala
archaeological
treasures,
etc,
etc.
H
As
we
go
down
a
little
further
on
this,
the
the
plan
actually
that
we're
talking
about
here,
the
tentative
selected
plan-
that's
the
plan
that
was
reduced
and
I'm,
sorry
that
was
revealed
on
April
20th
and
in
order
to
get
to
that
the
study
team
assessed.
You
know
obviously
dozens
of
measures
and
we
came
up
with
just
to
shorten
this
I'll
be
happy
to
go
through
this
in
depth
with
anyone.
Alternative
three
became
the
studies
tentative
selected
plan.
An
alternative
three
is
what
you
see
on
this
here
and
I.
Think
you
can
see.
H
My
cursor
is
a
barrier
that
goes
around
the
peninsula
at
what's
known
as
12-foot
navd
88.
So
it's
12
foot
of
elevation.
That's
engineering
speak
that
I'm
still
learning
down
here
on
the
very
tip
of
the
peninsula.
That's
what's
known
as
a
wave
attenuation
system,
think
jetty
just
for
a
shorthand
and
these
flags
represent
pump
stations.
So,
oh
by
law,
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
cannot
construct
a
project
that
makes
the
area
they're
working
in
any
worse
than
it
is
before
they
start.
H
So
the
pump
stations
are
there
to
take
any
of
the
water
out
any
additional
water
out
of
the
area
that
may
be
caused
by
the
fact
that
there's
a
wall
there,
a
lot
of
people
are
worried
about
the
what's
known
as
a
bathtub
effect
and
that's
what
the
purpose
of
those
pumps
is
right
there
to
take
those
out
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Those
cost
benefit
plan
is
known
as
the
national
economic
development
plan
and
that's
the
one
the
Corps
by
law
has
to
go
with.
H
They
don't
have
a
choice,
so
they've
evaluated
all
of
these
alternatives.
They
have
looked
at
the
different
43
different
measures
that
could
be
put
in
place
through
that
process
of
18
months.
They've
came
up
with
a
barrier,
a
wave
attenuation
system
and
then
a
couple
of
areas
that
are
outside
of
the
barrier
where
we
would
have
to
do
some
sort
of
flood
proofing
those
areas,
contrary
to
what
you
read
in
the
paper
this
weekend,
they're
not
left
out
of
the
plan,
they're
just
left
out
of
the
wall
barrier,
so
the
other
ways
to
protect
these.
H
H
H
It
gives
us
a
lot
more
capacity
now
within
the
city
for
that
initial
on
flex,
the
wave
attenuator
really
does
that
this
doesn't
really
show
you
much
there's
a
lot
of
work
still
to
do
on
that
and
then,
ultimately,
these
pump
stations
that
will
be
around
here,
along
with
the
non-structural
message,
there's
a
picture
of
a
permanent
pump
station
and,
of
course,
ours
would
probably
be
completely
covered,
as
we
were
going
to
do
that
project
performance.
This
is
the
really
important
part,
so
the
the
the
army
had
to
study
in
depth.
H
What
kind
of
benefits
was
this
going
to
give
to
the
community?
The
first
one
was
we
had
to
look
at
health
and
safety.
That's
the
first
thing
they
have
to
do:
here's
a
picture
of
the
peninsula
and
likely
areas
that
would
be
flooded
between
now
and
twenty,
seventy-five
at
a
nine
foot,
navd
88.
You
can
see
here
that
this
covers
a
good
part
of
the
peninsula,
just
leaving
pretty
much
the
spine
of
the
polenta's
peninsula
loan
over
here
with
projects
on
this
side,
you
can
see
that
it's
pretty
much
between
now
and
twenty
seventy
five.
H
These
are
pretty
well
protected
as
you
go
through
that
here's
a
little
better
way
to
look
at
it
without
project.
50
percent
of
your
police
stations
are
at
risk
of
flooding.
Forty-Two
percent
of
your
health
care
facilities,
twenty-nine
percent
of
fire
stations
and
these
all
go
down
to
zero
with
the
project
in
place.
So
this
is
the
health
and
safety
side
of
this
particular
project.
H
The
economic
breakdown
out
of
this
is
that
the
estimated
total
project
cost
is
about
one
point
and
five
billion
and
the
average
annual
net
benefit
so
the
way
the
army
does
this
as
they
annualized
the
benefits
and
so
using
the
methodology
that
they
use
and
I
would
have
to
have
a
PhD
in
economics.
To
explain
it
to
you
extremely
well
is
that
the
city
would
see
an
average
annual
benefit,
maybe
four
million
dollars
a
year
over
fifty
years
every
year
for
50
years.
H
That
would
be
the
amount
of
annual
net
benefit
that
we
would
see
from
doing
this.
That's
just
simply
through
protecting.
What's
on
the
peninsula,
preventing
loss
of
the
economy.
I
think,
if
you
think
of
a
big
storm
similar
to
category
three
storm,
or
so
it's
essentially
going
to
look
like
what
we're
going
through
with
the
virus
right
now,
with
everything
being
shut
down,
the
difference
would
be
we'd
have
to
rebuild
everything
before
we
can
get
back
to
work.
So
that's
the
benefit
on
that.
I
want
to
go
very
quickly.
H
Seven
percent
of
the
study
would
be
at
risk
study
area.
You
know
we're
dealing
with
sea
level
rise.
That's
part
of
the
problem
that
we've
got
going
on
here.
We
got
462
properties
inside
the
study
area.
As
repetitive
loss
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
here.
You've
all
seen
these
NOAA
storm
surge
maps,
I'm
sure
of
that
and
I
almost
don't
like
to
show
them,
because
the
studies
not
really
based
on
them,
but
we
are
a
lot
of
risk
here
on
and
so
actually
the
entire
city.
H
H
Is
one
foot
nav
eighty-eight,
so
if
you
think
it
one-foot,
navd,
88,
think
of
about
a
four
point,
one
four
foot
tied
and
so
you're
already
beginning
to
see
a
little
bit
of
stuff
happening
in
these
creeks
two
feet
now
we're
at
five.
If
0.14,
you
can
begin
to
see
how
full
fills
in
on
this
side
of
the
peninsula.
This
peninsula
area
is
very,
very,
very
low.
Here's
three
foot
so
now
we're
at
about
a
six
foot
tide,
and
this
is
exactly
what
we
see
at
about
a
six
point.
One
four
foot
tide.
H
Now:
you're
gonna
walk
into
seven-foot
sand.
Here's
I
think
people
know
this
area
right
here
and
you're
gonna
see
exactly
what
happens.
This
is
exactly
where
the
water
goes.
When
we
have
that
little
bit
greater
than
a
seven
foot
tide-
and
you
can
drag
this
around
the
whole
city
when
you
take
a
lot
of
time
on
this-
but
we
can't
be
happy
to
show
any
and
all
of
you
this
at
any
time
now
we're
talking
eight
to
nine
foot
tide,
and
this
is
again,
this
is
what
we're
seeing
in
in
real.
H
You
know
this
storm
surge.
You
can't
pump
out
the
Atlantic
Ocean
you
can
when
the
tide
goes
down,
but
you
can't
stop
the
tide
from
coming
in
misters
again
what
the
city
begins
to
look
like
with
that
of
a
storm
surge
and
here's
a
little
slightly
different
view
of
the
peninsula
as
it
begins
to
fill
in.
So
that's
about
a
ten-foot,
10-foot
surge
right
through
here.
You
can
see
it
crawling
up
the
expressway
and
again
we've
seen
these
they've
seen
these
just
a
short
time
that
I've
been
here.
H
H
So
our
you
see
I'm,
not
gonna.
Take
you
through
that
again.
So
the
alternative
analysis,
like
it
said
earlier,
was
the
things
we
put
in
place.
Alternative
three,
which
is
the
one
that
we
looked
at.
Is
this
one
here
and
we
went
through
all
of
these
various
ways
of
assessing
it
and
came
up
with
alternative.
Three
is
the
best
assessment,
so
this
is
on
their
website.
I
really
encourage
you
to
go
up
and
take
a
look
at
this.
It's
very
interesting
to
take
a
look
at
if
you
want
to
do
that.
H
This
is
the
dollar
and
cents
of
it.
Cost
of
the
project
is
about
1.7
billion
dollars.
It's
about
a
two
hundred
and
sixty
million
dollar
introspected
in
their
investment
cost
right
around
two
billion
and
then,
as
I,
showed
earlier
annual
benefits
of
about
ninety
four
million
dollars.
Here's
the
city's
contribution
right
here
will
be
a
thirty
five
percent,
which
would
be
six
hundred
and
thirteen
million
of
that
six
hundred
thirteen
million
one
hundred
and
twenty
nine
million
is
for
land
and
humans.
H
I
think
the
important
thing
is:
is
you
don't
need
all
this
money
up
front?
That's
not
the
way.
These
work
we're
not
expected
to
write
a
check
million
dollars.
This
will
probably
take
fifteen
years
to
construct
or
longer
perhaps
it's
on
the
phone
with
congressman
Clyburn
office
right
before
this
sitting
in
the
back
from
years
and
years
and
years
ago,
where
money's
been
authorized
but
never
appropriated.
H
So
this
these
things
take
time
to
get
done,
but
that
would
be
our
total
cost
share
will
be
that
and
then
I
think
that's
it
did
I
you
on
this
study.
We're
into
that
60-day
comment
period
now,
I
encourage
everybody
to
go
on
to
the
their
website.
That's
where
I
just
pulled
that
storyboard
from,
and
it
does
tell
a
really
good
story
about.
D
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
and
Mark
I,
just
sent
you
a
little
email
message.
Yeah,
so
I
was
invited
Mar
to
come
to
my
next
constituent
meeting
to
go
through
this
exact
presentation
or
folks
in
disregard
arrested
and
seen
as
I
think
they
are
and
I
think
you'd
be
a
lot
of
interest
for
folks
all
over
the
city,
in
particular
when
Ashley,
but
I,
think
one
of
the
questions
I
have
I
talked
about
you,
mr.
chairman,
in
the
mayor
about
more
getting
in
on
this
agenda
item.
D
Because
do
we
have
an
overall
plan
he's
getting
this
out
to
the
public
to
getting
their
input
on
this
massage?
But
I
just
did
invite
e-mart
that
come
to
you
a
little
Michael
situate
meetings.
We
have
some
idea
of
presenting
this
to
the
city
at
large
to
the
citizens
to
go
to
a
website
and
pulling
this
up
and
offering
public
comment.
You
know
that
the
issue
that
was
not
at
around
was
in
the
middle
of
this
pandemic
response
and
you've
got
a
ton
of
issues
on
our
city
plate
about
extending
the
comment
period
beyond.
B
D
H
Do
a
public
meeting
anywhere
at
any
time
other
than
that
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure
what
more
we
could
do
to
get
the
information
out
on
this
I
mean
their
website
is
pretty
darn
good
they've
got
videos,
they've
got
storyboard,
think
absent
the
ability
to
get
into
a
public
meeting,
which
is
what
I
think
we
all
want
to
do.
I
think
it's
really
difficult.
What.
B
Mr.
Wilford,
what
can
we
do
as
a
city
to
ask
for
a
longer
period
of
time
and
I?
Think
councilman
Shaheed
is
right
on
point
I
think
we
all
have
heard
from
constituents
and
60
days,
obviously
60
days
on
something
this
important.
It
took.
How
long
did
it
come
engineers
working
wasn't
sound
like
15
months
or
something
like
that
18
months
18
months?
Thank
you
for
the
correction,
so
that
I
think
I
know
that's
not
what
we're
doing,
but
the
appearance
is
that
we're
rushing
it
through.
H
Yeah
I
can
tell
you
that
questions
been
asked
and
the
Army
Corps
is
working
on
a
response
to
us
right
now.
I
don't
want
to
go
any
further
now,
but
they
have
taken
it
to
heart.
The
mayor
asked
very,
very,
very
early
on
and
they
have
taken
it
to
heart.
They
are
bound
by
their
regulations
and
I
would
just
say
it's
not
it's
not
a
local
decision.
How
does
that
sound?
Well,.
B
I
understand
that,
but
mr.
myth
I
actually
think
we
I
think
we
all
do
a
resolution
of
something
on
there
night
I.
Just
don't
believe
that
the
majority
of
council,
certainly
including
you,
would
being
see
the
60
days
on
something
that
is
dis
impactful.
We
just
need
to
learn
a
lot
more
about
it.
I
mean
I'm.
Talking
with
the
citizen,
I
mean,
for
example,
we
build
a
wall
around
the
city,
which
initially
sounds
to
make
sense
to
me,
but
where
does
that
water
go
mr.
Wilford
say.
B
Have
a
storm
surge
coming
in
hike
up.
Take
me
140
miles
an
hour
pushing
this
wall
of
water.
You
know,
hits
the
wall
more
than
likely.
It's
gonna
be
higher
than
8
foot,
but
the
water's
not
gonna,
turn
around
and
go
back
out
to
the
ocean
that
one
is
gonna,
go
someplace
and
I'm
wondering
you
know:
I'm
a
fisherman
and
I.
Don't
know
how
many
you
all
are,
but
you
been
out
to
the
jetties
folly.
B
Beach
never
had
trouble
with
erosion
to
the
degree
that
it
does
until
the
jetties
were
built,
which
was
a
man-made
reef
out
there
and
channel
up
there.
Mile
wide
and
I
walked
a
mile
long
when
the
water
cuts
around
that
that
wall
that
was
built
it
goes
over.
There
basically
washes
away
for
all
the
beach.
No.
B
H
We
need
those
the
answers:
okay,
I
can
I
have
an
answer.
I
have
a
good
answer
for
that.
So,
if
you
look
the
period
August
2020
on
the
slide
there,
so
as
we
finish
optimization
phase,
which
is
where
we
finish
up
kind
of
where
the
the
footprint
is
the
art
or
bylaw-
is
required
to
go
back
and
remodel,
and
one
of
the
purposes
of
that
modeling
is
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
doing
any
harmful
impacts
anywhere
else.
I.
B
Understand
that
I
mean
that
sounds
good,
but
when
they
built
the
wall,
I
mean
that
at
least
that
that
artificial
reef,
nobody
knew
at
the
time
that
the
currents
would
go
over
there
and
wash
away
folly
beach.
Some
of
these
things
we're
gonna
find
out,
potentially
after
it's
built
now.
Obviously
the
modeling
the
day
mr.
Walker
would
be
a
lot
better
once
stated
art
compared
to
whenever
in
jetties
the
jetties
were
built,
but
there
gonna
be
some
unintended
consequences
and
I
think
you
know
one
thing
about
our
citizenry.
B
We've
got
a
very
smart
citizen
group
in
the
city
of
Charleston.
They
come
up
with
questions
and
that
I'll
never
come
up
with,
and
maybe
some
of
our
council
people
will
get
them
from
I'm
impressed
by
the
turnout
with
the
Dutch
dialogue
that
created
a
a
wealth
of
response
from
people.
I
would
suspect
this
would
be
very
similar,
so
I
understand
they
have
their
their
guidelines
and
their
policies,
but
they've
never
had
policies
like
this
doing
a
coolant
or
a
virus
like
this.
It
literally
has
affected
the
world.
B
Well,
something
like
this
is
going
on
so
I
I.
Think
mr.
Muir,
from
a
standpoint
of
where
does
the
city
stand
on
this
I
think
we
need
to
let
an
official
vote.
Let
them
know
that
how
we
feel,
if
you
don't
feel
like,
if
you
feel
60
days,
is
enough,
then
obviously
vote
any
choice,
but
I
I
agree
what
was
written
in
the
newspaper
there
I
think
you
don't
having
these
four
months
on
this,
but
anyway,
as
you
say,
this
is
something
mister
whooping.
This
can
play
out
over
over
decade
or
more.
B
H
And
if
I
could
just
share
one
more
thing
with
you,
I
think
yes,
sir
hopeful
Councilman,
Griffin
I
think
was
talking
about.
Do
we
have
a
show
of
where
all
of
the
major
infrastructure
projects
are
in
the
city?
This
is
bit
up
on
our
web
site
now
the
city's
website
for
about
a
year-
and
it
literally
takes
you
to
every
one
of
the
projects
that
are
going
on
in
the
city
talks
about
what
they
cost
takes
you
to
their
individual
website
that
mr.
fountains
crew
keeps
up.
H
B
H
B
B
F
B
F
F
C
This
is
great.
This
is
what
I'm
talking
about,
but
we
just
need
to
update
a
lot
of
these
projects
and
put
more
information.
Maybe
it's
that
we
put
more
links
or
whatever
but
yeah
you
look
at
Church
Creek.
We,
we
kind
of
have
an
estimate.
We
we
kind
of
been
estimated
in.
We
don't
know,
but
there's
so
many
other
things
going
on
small
things
that
we've
done,
that
I.
Don't
think
that
does
justice
of
what
we
have
done
over
the
last
few
years.
So
this
is
great.
H
H
C
C
One
that
we
talked
about
areas
of
downtown
that
have
flirted
recently
they
didn't
in
the
past
I
had
a
lot
of
calls
about
the
area
in
front
of
Gibson
tire
on
upper
meeting.
Oh
yeah,
the
d-o-t
is,
has
been
out
there
several
times,
but
I
just
wanted
to
know
if
mr.
fountain
anybody
or
some
water
department's
been
following
along
with
with
that,
because
I
just
I
know.
C
A
Yeah
we've
actually
been
working
with
two
of
the
property
owners
out
there
for
probably
about
a
month
and
a
half
trying
to
support,
do
T
and
the
Magnolia
project,
which
are
both
under
DoD
permanent
jurisdiction.
I'm
trying
to
address
the
drainage
issues
I
think
do
T's
kind
of
narrowed
it
down
to
thinking
some
of
the
pipes
under
the
railroad
tracks
from
all
the
survey,
work
and
research,
we've
shown
them
and
they
I
think
they
had.
From
the
last
update.
A
C
A
Yeah
there
they
are
planning
to
clean
the
pipes
under
the
railroad
track.
Basically,
they
connect
a
meeting
street
to
King
Street
to
try
and
drain
back
to
King
Street,
where
I
guess
the
work
for
Magnolia
project
that
they're
doing
on
King
Street
has
been
working
to
try
to
pump
some
of
the
water
from
that
system
back
into
the
sewer
system.
Well,
they've
got
some
of
the
drains
blocked
on
the
King
Street
system,
so
it
does
get
pretty
complicated,
you're
right
that
the
drains
have
been
really
bad.
A
I
know
the
owners
have
been
asking
the
police
I
think
the
police
have
been
out
there,
because
a
lot
of
the
the
truck
traffic
is
actually
been
driving
through
some
of
the
closed
areas
and
actually
flooding
some
of
the
buildings
from
the
wakes
coming
off
of
so
it's
a
it's
a
tough
site,
you're
right,
that's
right!
That.
C
Is
that
area
has
a
lot
of
truck
traffic,
so
we've
just
got
to
be
careful
through
there
I
appreciate
you
also
hard
work
on
that
and
speaking
of
clogged
pipes,
a
lot
of
us
want
counseling
in
yourself
and
others.
Mr.
mayor
I've
been
getting
a
lot
of
emails
about
a
potential
pipe
over
on
James
Island,
that
I
guess
they
have
a
James
Island,
ditch
committee
or
something
and
they've
been
out
looking
at
pipes
and
supposedly
they
found
a
pipe.
C
C
C
We
all
jump
on
that
one,
because
I
know
that
that
is
a
very
sensitive
area
already
and
I
know
that
they'll
be
very
satisfied
if
we
can
jump
out
there
and
even
if
it's
not
ours,
just
get
it
cleaned
out
and
hopefully
find
out
more
about
that
I.
Don't
necessarily
agree
with
the
well.
That's
probably
been
clogged
for
a
long
time.
I
I,
don't
know
about
that,
but
I'd
love
to
hear
more
about
if
if
they
did
find
a
some
sort
of
pipe
that
hasn't
been
used
recently,
that
would
be
good
information.
A
Just
yeah
even
speak
to
that
one.
Very
briefly,
if
you'd
like
that
that
that
whole
system
we
actually
did
when
I
was
still
at
the
county,
the
city
and
county
work
collaboratively
to
remove
all
of
the
fencing
along
that
section
system
and
actually
did
reconstruct
the
ditch
line.
Along
gave
me
apartments
and
all
of
the
outfall
system,
all
the
way
down,
basically
to
the
marsh
out,
fall
in
2016
and
2017
after
some
of
those
rain
events,
so
the
the
pipes
were
certainly
open
at
at
that
time
were
reopened.
A
At
that
time,
we
have
been
back
there
to
clean
them.
Since
that
point,
this
is
one
of
the
watersheds
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
was
the
kind
of
known
areas
of
flooding.
It
is
certainly
possible.
They
did
clog
up
again,
I
mean
we
had
had
had
quite
a
few
events.
In
the
last
few
months.
We
did
have
a
vector
truck
there
this
morning
that
started
doing
some
cleaning
work
and
they're
supposed
to
go
back
again
to
double-check.
On
the
and.
A
A
To
be
for,
like
a
if
the
whole
system
had
an
issue,
you're
looking
normally
like
a
day
to
clean
out
that
that
type
of
clog,
if
it's
something
they
can
get
loose,
and
it's
just
a
like
a
localized
clog
that
breaks
loose,
that
might
be
a
few
hours
to
get
set
up
and
be
able
to
clean
it
out.
That's
that's
sort
of
a
time
frame.
You
know.
C
F
E
B
I
B
I
I
Now,
where
the
city
is
basically
been,
you
know
spammed
I,
think
so,
but
when
Mike
was
helping
me
in
January
in
February
we
were
gonna,
try
to
schedule
a
meeting
with
the
HOA,
which
is
what
the
legal
department
suggested
we
do
first,
but
to
be
honest,
I
think
we
should
just
tell
them
we're
not
collecting
trash
or
maintaining
their
streets
and
longer
because
have
us
over
a
barrel,
and
it's
not
right
so
I
put
this
on
your
committee's
agenda.
I
see
that
mr.
I
B
Councilwoman,
the
Councilwoman
Jackson
I'll
be
happy
to
join
in
with
you
on
that.
The
mr.
missile
is
right.
Mr.
O'brien
knows
about
as
well.
So
does
our
legal
team
know
about
this
thing
it
took
it
took
Liberty
with
a
temporary
gait
yeah
aimin
end
up
putting
up
$100,000
get
back
in
there.
They
can't
do
that.
That's
a
public
street
eminent
domain
will
prevail
on
that.
So
it's
a
man
fact
I,
like
mr.
boon,
the
attorney,
but
you
did
a
good
job
stalling
on
this
one.