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City of Charleston Committee on Public Works and Utilities 10/12/20
A
C
C
A
So
yeah,
when
that
guy
bike
or
scientific
told
me
he
wouldn't
have
been
in
charleston,
but
for
the
facility
at
west
edge
and
they've
hired
200
good,
paying
jobs,
I
mean
that
that's
that's!
Get!
That's
good!
That's
good!
Stuff!.
C
A
That's
that's.
That's
a
diversification
of
the
that
that
was
the
original
purpose
of
west
edge
was
so
that
that
kind
of
thing
could
occur,
and
you
know
up
until
that
building
it
was
you
know,
retail
and
residential
development,
which
could
have
occurred
anywhere,
but
to
get
health
sciences.
A
C
E
G
H
H
H
H
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
The
the
other
day
I
was
listening
to
a
homeless,
who
talked
about
being
persevering
and
having
hope
and
faith,
and
then
all
good
things
come
out
of
those
those
elements
and
we're.
Certainly
in
trying
times
with
our
country,
this
pandemic
is
still
gripping
us
and
having
an
influence
on
our
daily
lives
and
our
health
and
well-being
of
our
community.
C
H
Any
questions
on
those
minutes
hearing
on
all
in
favor,
please
say:
hi
hi
hi
any
opposed.
Mr
brian
temporary
encroachments.
Are
there
anything
that
out
of
the
normal.
B
I
G
I
Is
actually
an
updated
moa
based
on
the
the
minor
gas
station
contamination,
we
had
found
doing
some
environmental
work
on
the
project,
so
it's
just
updating
how
we
would
how
we
would
share
those
costs
between
cws
and
the
city,
but
it's
still
cws.
You
know
green,
basically
to
be
an
in-contract
utility
relocation,
as
well
as
doing
some
in-contract
utility
work
they
had
planned
for
the
intersection.
Anyway,
I'm
still
working
together
to
try
to
save
both
entities,
money.
I
I
On
all
the
favor,
I'm
sorry,
mr
mr
chairman,
just
only
the
only
point
to
note
as
soon
as
this
goes
through
we'll
be
able
to
notify
ria,
which
is
the
grant
agency
of
the
final
scope
of
work,
and
then
we
should
be
able
to
take
it
out
to
bid
as
soon
as
riaa
approves
so
we'll
be
hopefully
going
to
bid
in
the
next
few
weeks
on
that
project
as
well.
That's
wonderful
that
that's.
I
H
I
It
is
yeah
we
say
the
nif
whiff
grant
for
the
for
short
on
the
national
fish
and
wildlife
foundation
right.
So
this
is
the
the
actual
acceptance
of
the
grant
that
we
previously
had
approval
to
apply
for
for
the
1
million
345
000
federal
funds,
with
our
our
local
match,
which
is
a
combination
primarily
of
existing
drainage
fund
budget
and
then
a
little
bit
of
in-kind
matching
from
some
of
our
partner
agencies
as
well.
This
is
basically
the
last
move
forward
with
the
food
for
approval,
mid
basin,
workouts.
H
Properly
moved
in
second
and
any
more
discussions
on
that
grant,
thanks
for
the
work,
mr
fountain
and
you
and
your
team
good
work,
any
comments
on
this
any
discussion.
Hearing
that
all
in
favor,
please
say:
hi
hi
any
opposed.
I
just
have
it
we're
down
the
church,
creek
drainage
improvements,
discussion
on
on
the
plans
basically
is
councilman
dudley
online.
I
H
I
The
beginning,
so
this
is
the
central
park
based
on
the
drainage
improvement
projects
right.
Basically,
this
is
a
county
city
and
dot
collaborative
area.
We
all
have
jurisdiction,
significant
jurisdiction
in
the
area
with
the
county
and
city,
almost
almost
being
a
50
50.
It's
like
a
60,
40
split
of
parcels
and
then
dot
having
some
of
the
major
roads
that
are
sort
of
targets
for
improvement,
the
culverts
that
go
into
those
roads.
I
We've
we've
previously
done
an
evaluation
review
which
I'll
go
over
just
for
in
a
minute
with
aecom,
and
then
we've
looked
at
existing
condition
versus
improved
conditions,
developed
some
conceptual
improvements
based
on
kind
of
running
through
a
whole
different
scenario
of
evaluations
and
we're
also
doing
stormwater
development
reviews
collaboratively
now
between
the
county
and
city
in
this
area,
because,
again,
there's
so
much
interconnecting
drainage
system
and
then
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
next
steps
collaboration.
I
So
again,
previously,
we've
worked
together
to
collect
quite
a
bit
of
data
across
the
basin.
We're
currently
working
to
do
a
kind
of
maintenance
rehabilitation
of
the
drainage
system
between
the
city
and
county
moving
through
the
basin
and
d.o.t
has
helped
with
some
of
the
pipe
cleanings
on
their
roadside
system
as
well.
I
I
Then
we've
at
the
city
we've
sort
of
set
this
aside,
obviously
as
a
special
protection
area
and
the
county
is
looking
at
the
potential
for
that
kind
of
designation
as
well
within
their
their
jurisdiction
for
the
area,
then,
obviously
moving
forward,
we're
looking
to
do
collaborative
improvement
for
design
and
construction.
I
The
review
just
very
briefly,
since
this
isn't
really
a
capital
project
focus,
but
it
it
has
an
impact
in
this
basin
we're
trying
to
make
a
regional
approach
to
stormwater
standards.
Looking
at
flood
potential.
Looking
at
what
kind
of
detention
time
is
necessary
on
the
project,
what
are
the
needs
for
easement?
Does
properties
develop
and
then
also
again
assigning
that
special
protection
area,
which
applies
our
higher
standards
because
it's
an
area
of
known
flooding,
obviously
for
those
of
you
who
aren't
familiar
with
the
the
basin
just
a
quick
overview,
it's
about
500
acres.
I
This
is
maybank
highway
at
the
top
and
move
my
folly
road
on
the
east
central
park.
Road
actually
comes
through
here,
not
quite
on
the
south,
there's
a
little
bit
of
the
basin
below
central
park.
Road
eme
apartments
is
this
unit
right
here
and
then
on.
The
the
west
is
basically
woodland
shores
coming
down
to
riverland.
I
So
previously
we
had
aecom
go
through
a
basic
range
evaluation
for
the
basin.
They
built
a
model.
Here's
yes
yep!
I
hear
you
account
somewhere.
H
I
I
may
have
lost
constant
wearing
for
audio.
I
I
Showing
how
we
built
it
together
went
through
adding
soils,
land
use,
some
field
surveying
review,
work.
Some
plant
development
reviews
met
with
residents
in
the
area,
looking
at
flood
reports
and
photos
to
validate
the
model
and
make
sure
that
we
were
seeing
what
we
should
be
seeing
and
that
the
the
models
being
built
correctly
identified
some
other
local
issues.
We
might
not
have
been
seen
in
the
kind
of
larger
overall
scheme
of
the
model.
Then
we
did
evaluate
this
for
storm
surge
scenarios.
I
We
looked
very
briefly
just
explaining
it
very
briefly.
We
looked
in
pretty
good
detail
at
three
different
types
of
flood
improvements,
so
we
looked
at
maximum
depth,
which
is
like
severity
of
flooding.
What
which
structures
are
being
flooded?
How
how
distributed
is
that
flooding
as
flooding
comes
up?
We
looked
at
duration
of
flooding,
so
it's
not
important.
Just
does
your
property
get
flooded?
Where
is
the
flooding,
but
how
long
does
that
flooding?
Last
for
before
the
water
comes
back
down?
You
know
again
having
three
inches
of
water.
I
Six
inches
of
water
in
a
roadway
can
be
a
challenge.
If
it's
you
know
four
or
five
days,
but
if
it's
only
15
minutes
during
the
peak
of
the
storm,
it's
not
not
nearly
the
same
issue.
Then
we
looked
at
frequency
of
flooding.
That's
basically
the
recurrence
is
this
something
that
happens
every
time
it
rains,
or
is
it
only
during
major
type
of
hurricane
events,
so
the
graphs
on
the
side
just
show
how
the
model
evaluates
existing
condition
and
post
conditions.
I
This
is
just
showing
some
examples
where
flood
severity,
maximum
depth
wasn't
decreased
as
much,
but
the
recovery
time
is
very
quick.
It
goes
from
basically
a
couple
of
days
of
you
know
still
showing
no
recovery
in
the
red
to
really
recovering
within
a
few
hours
to
a
non-flood
condition
in
the
green.
So
these
are
different
types
of
evaluation
that
were
run
just
briefly.
This
is
the
existing
condition
model.
In
what
would
we
call
a
50
annual
exceedance?
I
So
the
red
is
your
areas
of
sort
of
severe
flooding.
The
yellowish
orange
is
areas
of
moderate
flooding.
Then
the
blue
is
areas
of
sort
of
like
more
of
a
nuisance
or
very,
very
minimal
flooding
again
to
your
storm
event.
It
shows
showing
where
we
we
see,
flooding
even
into
your
storm,
have
been
pretty
pretty
widespread
and
pretty
severe
across
the
basin
four
percent
event.
So
now
we're
looking
at
what
you
call
a
25-year
storm,
four
percent
chance
of
accidents.
I
Obviously
the
flooding
flooding
worsens
a
little
bit
and
also
spreads
in
geographic
area,
as
you
would
expect.
I
This
is
then
looking
at
the
improved
conditions,
so
in
the
two-year
event,
with
the
improvements
recommended
by
aecom
the
the
basket
of
improvements
recommended.
Basically,
you
see
almost
a
complete
reduction
of
flooding,
there's
still
a
few
little
localized
pockets
that
again
experience
that
peak
severity
of
flooding,
but
have
a
much
faster
drawdown
time
again
and
then,
even
in
the
the
very
large
storm
events,
the
four
percent
storm
events
you're
still
seeing
a
greatly
reduced
geographic
distribution
of
flooding
and
even
more
reduction
in
duration.
I
Again,
as
things
can
actually
drain
out,
a
lot
of
that
is
still
due
to
tidal
impacts
in
this
area
so
area.
One
improvements,
we
kind
of
broke
this
into
four
project
areas,
jump
in.
Let
me
jump
back
and
explain
those
areas.
So
the
area
one
improvements
sit
in
the
primary
canal,
see
there.
We
go
this
primary
canal
here
at
the
bottom
area.
One
is
kind
of
going
to
be
this
area
area.
Two
is
gonna,
be
as
you
go
upstream
in
the
canal
area.
I
Three
is
gonna,
be
the
laurel
park
subdivision,
then
area
four
is
going
to
focus
more
on
the
western
portion
of
the
basin,
with
howell
stefan
hollins
fleming
different
set
of
roads
so
area
one
again.
Here's
amy
apartments,
here's
central
park
road,
so
this
is
looking
at
adding
basically
box
culverts
to
replace
the
undersized
pipes
at
central
park,
road
at
the
eme
access
road
and
at
riley
road,
which
are
the
last
crossings
before
you
enter
more
of
a
traditional
st
stream
than
the
man-made
canal
section
through
here.
It's
also
adding
in
check
valves.
I
It's
making
another
improvement
to
kind
of
a
lateral
system
that
comes
in
here
to
help
bring
more
water
to
a
further
downstream
point,
rather
than
kind
of
having
this
flow
north
and
get
into
the
choke
points
in
the
marlborough
neighborhood,
and
then
it
also
has
some
improvements
to
the
channels
within
this
area
to
make
sure
we're
having
kind
of
a
consistent
level
of
conveyance.
This
is.
I
This
is
an
area
that
the
city
is
taking
the
lead
with
basically
the
county
providing
some
support,
especially
hopefully
with
the
the
permitting
is
they
have
a
like
a
staff
reviewer
through
a
mou
with
the
army
corps
of
engineers,
where
they
basically
have
a
prioritized
review
capacity
with
the
army
corps
of
engineers,
we're
also
right
now,
working
with
aecom
to
develop
basically
the
scope
for
preliminary
engineering.
We
hope
to
have
that
in
the
next
few
weeks,
so
that
we
can
move
forward
with
these
first
two
projects
area,
two
being
the
second
project
here.
I
This
is
again
moving
just
upstream
area.
One
is
just
the
south
here.
This
is,
as
you
move
up
the
canal.
This
is
the
the
marlborough
neighborhood
on
the
left
of
the
laurel
park.
Neighborhood
on
the
right
and
drive
comes
across
here
with
the
tennis
center.
For
those
of
you
familiar
with
the
area
over
on
fleming,
this
is
basically
improvements.
I
This
area,
too,
is
improvements
to
the
canal,
trying
to
make
a
more
consistent
cross-section,
stabilize
some
of
the
erosion
damage
on
the
on
the
canal
and
basically
improve
the
ability
for
water
to
get
to
the
canal
and
then
through
the
canal
down
to
where
those
improvements
were
made
in
area.
One
again,
the
city's
taking
the
lead
on
this
area
as
well
with
the
county
again
providing
some
support,
the
city's
again
working
with
aecom
under
that
same
scope,
so
area
one
and
two
will
basically
be
part
of
that
initial
scope.
I
That's
recommended
for
for
looking
at
moving
to
preliminary
engineering
and
design
work
permitting
work
area
three.
This
is
shifting
over
now
again
area.
One
was
downstream
area.
Two
was
this
canal
area.
Three
is
the
laurel
park
neighborhood.
This
is
helping
bring
water
out
of
the
laurel
park.
Neighborhood
area
three
is
primarily
unincorporated
county
and
d.o.t
roads.
I
D.O.T
will
be
another
important
point
of
coordination,
since
the
number
of
these
roads
are
dot
maintained
roads,
as
well
as
any
new
crossings
under
under
central
park
and
then
area
four.
This
is
moving
over
to
the
western
side
of
the
basin.
This
is
the
fleming
road
here,
as
you
come
to
the
north.
You'll
see
stephen
howell
hollings
comes
across
here
just
for
reference,
so
this
area,
the
the
improvements,
are
basically
looking
at
adding
some
new
storage,
potentially
on
a
a
parcel
kind
of
between
hollings
and
fleming.
I
There's,
a
small
triangular
parcel
there
that
the
county
has
been
working
with
the
potential
developer
of
riverland
oaks
as
part
of
their
potential
downstream
improvements
if
they
go
through
with
permanent
on
that
project.
To
add
storage
here,
improvements
for
conveyance
here,
but
really
the
the
major
improvement
necessary
in
this
section.
I
It
really
is
a
very
inconsistent
flow
path.
Has
some
disconnection
in
it
very
hard
for
the
water
to
get
out
and
get
down
to
the
eventual
outfall,
so
they're
we're
looking
at
different
ways
to
connect
that
system
back
over
to
basically
a
larger
drainage
system
that
runs
north
south
through
this,
this
old
boro
pit
and
then
up
into
a
larger
canal
that
the
county
has
here
and
has
has
improved
over
the
years.
I
H
H
I
mean:
are
we
supposed
to
be
seeing
anything
besides?
The
flood
duration,
page.
H
H
I
Mr
chairman,
so
area
area,
four,
basically
for
moving
forward
to
this
set
of
the
projects.
The
the
city
had
this
as
its
number
one
improvement
project
for
the
county
transportation
committee,
the
ctc
committee,
which
is
where
the
state
gas
tax
portions
of
the
state
gas
tax
funds,
are
returned
to
the
county.
I
If
the
county
chooses
to
make
a
committee
which
the
charleston
county
did
can
allocate
out
that
that
funding
for
projects
the
city
applied
for
basically
drange
improvements
in
this
area,
this
number
one
project
dot,
had
it
as
one
of
their
top
projects
for
the
area.
So
this
was
awarded
two
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
of
funding
by
the
ctc
committee.
I
The
county
is,
is
planning
to
basically
take
the
lead
on
that
funding
and
prepare
is
currently
preparing
an
rfq
for
improvement
design
at
the
the
crossing
of
central
park
down
at
the
bottom,
which
currently
over
tops
in
tidal
and
high
tide
conditions,
as
well
as
can
over
top
and
some
of
the
storm
conditions.
So
it's
mostly
a
title,
a
title
over
topping
it's
also
an
outfall
for
this
large
borrow
pit.
So
it's
basically
the
downstream
improvements
for
this
eventual
upstream
set
of
improvements.
That's
what
the
county's
taking
lay
down
at
the
moment.
I
That
will
then
allow
us
to
get
to
construction
in
two
to
five
years.
I
mean
assuming
funding
moves
through
well,
two
to
three
years
is
sort
of
the
realistic
time
frame
for
construction
of
most
these
improvements,
as
we
kind
of
move
into
the
upstream
portions
of
the
base,
and
that's
where
you're
pushing
out
to
more
than
five
years
or
if
the
funding
or
permitting
become
something
very
unusual.
I
We
could
push
out
to
that
time
frame,
but
it's
sort
of
two
to
three
years
for
initial
improvements,
three
to
five
for
some
of
those
follow-on
improvements,
that's
what
I
had
for
such
a
park.
If
there's
any
any
questions.
H
Okay,
let
me
ask
some
questions.
I
see
councilman
gregory
online
councilman
gregory,
you
have
any
input.
I
mean
this
is
kind
of
in
your
footprint
in
your
district
that
you
represent.
J
Yeah,
it
is,
and
I
did
get
the
same
debriefing
at
one
of
our
other
meetings
and
some
of
my
questions
probably
was
answered.
H
J
Mine
had
more
to
do,
however,
with
where
the
big
ditch
goes
under
central
park
road,
and
we
all
know
that
the
size
of
the
pipes
are
problematic.
J
But
if
I'm
hearing
you
correctly
matt,
we
couldn't
just
simply
enlarge
those
pipes
without
doing
other
things
down
line
such
as
making
sure
that
we
have
the
is
it
called
the
gate?
What
do
you
call
it
to
keep
the
water
back
in
florida.
J
In
other
words,
we
couldn't
just
do
area
one
now,
because
down
the
line,
two
three
and
four
will
also
have
to
be
connected
prior
to
that
in
some
form
or
fashion.
I
So
we
so
area
one
area,
one
we
could
do
first,
the
area
two
and
three
will
not
have
a
significant
improvement
until
area
one
is
complete
and
then
area
one
and
mr
david
wood
from
a
comes
on
the
line
too.
If
there's
any
questions
for
from
the
directly
from
the
aekon
team,
he
was
kind
enough
to
join
us
at
your
request.
I
But
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
look
at
and
I'll
speak
for
david
briefly
is-
is
the
option
of
installing
larger
culverts
without
the
check
valve
systems
and
basically
there's
enough
tidal
influence
in
the
area.
We
didn't
see
as
much
improvement
from
that
scenario.
Basically,
during
a
high
tide,
you
see
very
minimal
improvement,
practically
no
improvement
in
a
very
low
tide
event.
You
may
see
some
reduction
in
duration
or
intensity,
but
it's
it's
sort
of
one
of
those
questions
of
when
we
do
environmental
permanent
with
the
core
and
with
ocrm.
I
They
generally
want
to
see
what
the
overall
intent
for
your
project
is.
So
we're
not
sure
if
trying
to
go
forward
with
kind
of
a
partial
approval
would
end
up
creating
more
slowdown
and
difficulty
in
the
long
run,
as
we
kind
of
came
back
and
asked
to
immediately
modify
what
we
had
just
permitted,
they
might
kind
of
think
we're
we're
looking
at
two
different
approaches.
So
we'd
come
in
telling
them
upfront
what
we're
trying
to
do.
But
I
know
we've
tried
to
do
something
similar
and
councilman.
I
Sheila
was
on
the
line
and
glenn
mcconnell,
glenn,
mcconnell,
widening
and
the
course
basically
come
back
and
said.
No,
you
need
to
kind
of
assess
what
you're
going
to
do
overall
for
the
basin
here
not
just
give
us
a
kind
of
a
short-term
plan
for
the
magic.
J
You
know
matt,
do
you
know
any
situation
from
your
county
experience
where
they
have
allowed
us
to
to
to
go
piecemeal,
especially
if
it's
going
to
have
some
community
benefits.
I
So
the
the
army
corps
normally
doesn't
look
at
community
benefit,
really
they
they
look
at
ecological
impact
and
they
generally
don't
have
exemptions
for
this
kind
of
thing.
We
did
talk
to
them
originally
about
just
even
putting
temporary
check
valves
on
some
of
the
pipes,
and
they
said
that
they
don't
even
have
a
nationwide
permit,
which
is
sort
of
an
expedited
permit
for
check
valve
systems
that
that
has
to
go
through
the
individual,
permitting
process,
which
is
generally
at
least
12
to
18
months
gee.
I
I
Yes,
I
think
I
think
the
the
thing
to
focus
on
initially
are
those
area.
One
improvements,
I
think
that's
yeah,
I
mean
that's
the
area
where
you're
going
to
get
the
water
out
the
fastest
and
if
we
can
get
the
check
valve
systems
in
you
also
prevent
some
of
the
inflow
from
having
impact.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
best,
immediate
bang
for
your
buck
on
the
area.
One
two
three
area
that
will
help
everyone
to
get
those
improvements
in.
J
I
H
Well,
mr
pum,
let
me
let
me
let
me
assist
mr
phelp
now:
do
we
have
any
ditches
or
pipes
out
there?
In
other
words,
if
all
the
ditches
and
the
pipes
and
the
areas
you
described
were
open,
what
kind
of
relief
would
that
bring
so.
I
That
one's
a
little
bit
tricky!
Mr
chairman,
it's
a
it's
a
it's,
a
balance
that
if
you
open
the
like,
if
you
went
through
and
improved
the
laurel
park,
neighborhood
very
thoroughly,
and
you
brought
all
the
standing
water
which
you
couldn't
do
it
because
there's
there's
back
up
in
the
wimbledon
canal
already.
But
if
you
helped
move
that
water
more
efficiently
into
the
canal,
you
might
worsen
again
worse
than
the
downstream
situation
for
the
benefit
of
some
of
the
upstream
property
owners.
You
still
wouldn't
be
able
to
fix
the
flooding
there's
far
too
much.
I
I
It
is
yes
yeah,
it's
it
sort
of
sits
between
flint
street
and
west
wimbledon,
no
east
wimbledon.
I'm
sorry
east
wimbledon,
coming
north
off
of
central
park.
H
I
H
It
is
you
joking.
I
see
mr
wood
almost
standing
up.
Do
you
have
anything
to
contribute
to
this?
Mr
wood.
F
H
Right
so
as
far
as
getting
something
done
soon,
that
doesn't
sound
like
that's
in
the
car,
even
if
we
have
the
funding
identified,
what
would
be
the
accelerated
if
we
could
game
plan
and
we
identify
the
money?
How
long
does
it
take
to
kind
of
get
some
of
the
solutions
being
put
in
place.
I
And
you
know
david
certainly
jump
in,
but
I'd
say
that
if
we
can
get
design
funding
set
up
we're
generally
looking
at
something
on
the
order
of
18
months,
probably
for
permitting
between
the
core
and
t-hec.
We
are
trying
to
work
with
the
county
to
see
if
we
can
again
use
their
kind
of
accelerated
access,
but
even
they
can
only
accelerate
a
little
bit
there's
only
so
much
they
can
do
as
well.
G
I
Do
have
to
fit
in
with
their
their
other
projects
in
the
queue
as
well,
that
that
would
probably
let
us
get
to
again
bidding
potentially
bidding
construction
work
sometime
in
the
next
18
to
24
months
and
then
having
that
construction
occur
over
the
year
after
that,
and
that
would
focus
I
mean
from
a
financial
standpoint.
You
want
to
focus
whatever
money
you
had
available.
First
on
area,
one
then
move
into
area
two
as
more
funding
becomes
available
with
the
county.
I
H
I
I
You
know
we'll
need
to
get
that
approved
through
council
and
you
know,
including
the
necessary
funding,
be
able
to
move
in
and
then
basically,
as
as
david's
team
works
through
the
project,
they'll
develop
better
cost
numbers
for
the
construction
effort,
we'll
bring
those
back
to
the
budget
ad
hoc
and
council
for
inclusion
into
the
drainage
fund
for
capital
project
expenditures.
As
we
move
down
that
two
to
three
year
time
period.
I
F
I
would
just
add
that,
as
you
well
know,
there's
a
lot
of
citizen
interest
and
participation,
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
include
some
time
for
communication
public
outreach
as
we
go
forward
with.
H
Us
now
I've
been
talking
any
input
from
other
council
members
councilman
ross,
councilman
griffin
on
the
committee.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
You
know
first,
I
just
want
to
thank
matt,
his
team
aecom,
my
fellow
james
island
council,
members,
councilmember,
gregory
and,
of
course,
councilmember
jackson
for
for
the
work
here.
This
is
a
very,
very
tricky
area.
D
This
is
a
area
where
there
are
a
lot
of
very
well
informed,
activated
community
members
and
leaders
that
are
very,
very
passionate
about
stormwater
and,
frankly,
you
know,
I
think,
raised
the
profile
of
this
issue
in
a
very
significant
way,
but
I
think
that,
if
there's
anything
that
this
presentation
reveals
is
just
how
complicated
it
is,
particularly
in
these
multi-jurisdictional
areas
to
retrofit,
you
know
legacy
developments
that
were
never
developed
with
any
kind
of
semblance
of
stormwater
management.
D
We
have
got
to
find
a
way
to
get
this
streamlined,
listen,
there's
nobody,
that's
more
in
favor
of
the
environment,
natural
resources
and
protection
than
I
am,
but
there's
got
to
be
a
little
bit
of
common
sense
here,
and
I
know
that
there's
been
some
great
work
underway
already
with.
I
know,
senator
sen
has
done
some
good
things
with
ocrm.
D
We've
got
to
be
working
with
our
federal
and
state
partners
on
this
to
get
some
sort
of
sanity
and
regularity
to
this,
because
these
issues
are
not
just
in
central
park
this
this
basin
right
here
this
is
everywhere
in
the
city
where
there's
a
marsh
outfall.
It
literally
cannot
be
an
act
of
congress.
Every
time
we
want
to
clean
a
ditch
out,
I
mean
come
on
people,
and
this
is
an
example
of
where
you
know,
city
of
charleston.
D
You
know
we're
on
the
front
lines
of
storm
water,
but
we
need
some
major
help,
both
from
a
regulatory
standpoint
and
a
financial
standpoint
from
our
you
know,
other
branches
of
government
to
make
real
significant
differences
on
this
issue,
and
I
just
felt
compelled
to
say
that-
and
I
think
that
this
this
topic,
this
central
park
area,
is
just
a
case
study
in
in
what
we
need
to
do
to
improve
these
systems
and
make
these
things
far
more
efficient
and
productive.
D
H
G
C
D
I'll
write
another
letter
to
senator,
graham
and
senator
scott
and
see
if
they
respond
this
time.
H
H
We
need
something
more
collective.
I
believe,
council,
member
writing,
as
opposed
to
those
people,
that's
going
to
turn
out
november
to
vote
if
they
knew
it,
maybe
they
would
be
writing
and
calling
as
well.
We
got
this
problem
all
over.
I
mean
this
outfall
problem,
you're
right
on
that
and
this
we've
known
about
it
for
years.
I
think
they
gave
us
the
right
to
go
and
clean
it
out
by
hand
going
out
there
with
a
shovel
in
the
marsh
by
hand.
It's
just
ridiculous
that
you're
right.
C
D
That
talk
in
the
public
about
government
regulatory
overreach
and
things
like
that,
it
ain't
always
about
health
care
and
all
these
other
things
that
are
so
sizzly
and
flashy
in
the
public.
You
know
attention.
It's
help
us
clean
out
our
ditches,
guys
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
storm
water
problem
in
charleston.
If
you
haven't
heard
yeah,
I'm
all
ears,
I'm
I'm
by
no
means
a
you
know.
You
know
you
know
an
expert
on
how
we
consolidate
this,
but
there's
clearly
a
you
know:
they're.
D
The
folks
here
on
james
island
that
have
been
very
activated
politically
over
this
you've
got
the
downtown
crew,
the
groundswell
people
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
passionate
and
tuned
into
flooding
these
days,
and
I
think
that,
to
the
extent
that
energy
and
interest
and
passion
can
be
harnessed
towards
some
improvements
in
the
system
and
again
we're
not
talking
about
just
you
know,
let
anything
go
in
the
marsh
we're
just
talking
about
establishing
some
general
permitting
parameters
and
guidelines.
D
So
it's
not
this
we're
having
to
reinvent
the
wheel
at
such
a
costly
and
time-consuming
pace
every
year.
So
I'm
I'm
all
ears
for
some
brighter
people
than
me
to
come
up
with
a
way
to
help
make
some
progress
on
this
issue.
D
H
E
E
Sorry,
I
I
appreciate
that
I,
I
really
didn't
have
anything
to
say
about
matt's,
thorough
presentation,
I've
I've
sat
through
it
a
few
times
and
I
I
think
I
do
understand,
and
I've
been
educated
by
by
matt
in
the
engineering
community
that
you
have
to
begin
with
the
outfall.
So
I
think
we
definitely
have
the
right
the
maps
in
front
of
us
and
the
right
game
plan
for
where
to
start,
but
I
totally
agree
with
councilmember
appel
it.
E
It
is
all
about
this
permitting
thing,
and-
and
yes,
you
know
it's
a
tension
between
conservation
and
making
sure
that
we're
not
destroying
wetlands
or
or
the
actual
marsh
itself
in
the
process
of
improving
a
whole
drainage
system.
But
we
know
that
the
majority
of
the
things
that
are
needing
to
be
permitted
are
such
temporary
encroachments.
E
When
you
talk
about
temporary
encroachment,
it's
days,
you
know,
and
so
I
I
just
had
that
same
conversation,
senator
sen
has
been
working
very
hard
behind
the
scenes
with
the
dhec
staff
that
has
drafted
what
they're
calling
the
general
permit.
E
So
dp
is
the
is
the
acronym
and
they
have
a
gp
that
they've
been
running
up
the
flagpole
with
with
epa
or
I'm
sorry,
the
army
corps
for
the
last
year
and
the
army
corps
just
closed
their
public
comment
period
and
now
they're
trying
to
consolidate
the
reviews
that
came
in
with
the
reviews
that
came
into
dhak
about
eight
nine
months
ago
and
once
those
consolidated,
then
they
will
be
deciding
if,
if
they
can
recommend
this
general
permitting
process,
that
would
definitely
shortcut
what
you
all
are
talking
about
on
the
individual
permitting
side.
E
Last
last
thursday,
our
new
house
of
representatives,
senator
spencer
wetmore,
is
now
representing
all
of
james
island
in
folly
beach,
and
she
has
just
you
know,
left
her
work,
the
beach
town
administrator.
So
she
is
schooled
in
all
of
this
from
her
from
her
day
job
career,
and
she
has
already
been
meeting
with
the
same.
E
You
know
people
that
are
that
will
be
controlling
the
permitting
and
then
senator
campson
was
the
other
conversation
I
had
and
he
said,
he'd
been
behind
this
push
a
year
or
so
ago
and
really
confessed
that
he
had.
You
know
he
thought
it
was
underway
which
we
all
did,
but
now
he
knows
that
it
hasn't
been,
so
he
was
going
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
start
calling
people.
So
I
do
feel
like
we've
got
that
momentum
and
we
just
need
to
continue
it.
We
could
have
a
public
works
committee.
E
You
know
resolution
that
we
could
put
forward
to
our
state
representatives,
our
delegation.
I
think
that
would
be
a
huge.
You
know
that
the
city
could
contribute
to
this
permit
and
all
of
that,
so
that
might
be
an
education
that
you
want
to
ask
for.
H
A
Well,
yes,
on
the
general
permit
question
this
is
is
is
not
peculiar
to
the
city
of
charleston.
It's
it's
everywhere
where
alcohol
will
need
to
be
cleaned
out
so
and
that's
one
issue
that
we've
kind
of
focused
on
here
for
the
last
five
or
ten
minutes,
that's
very
important
and
we
need
to
move
forward.
I
wanted
to
make
comment
a
little
more
specifically
to
this
womba
study
and
and
path
forward,
and-
and
I
agree
with
councilmember
jackson-
we
we
now
that
we
got
the
study
done.
A
We
seem
to
have
a
good
plan
to
to
focus
on
that
area
one
first,
so
we
could
create
the
capacity
to
help
the
water
flow
of
the
rest
from
the
other
areas.
Having
said
that,
I
I
want
to
be
the
first
to
acknowledge
that
it
took
us
longer
to
get
this
study
done
than
than
we
all
wanted,
and
then
our
citizens
wanted.
So
so
there's
that's
why
you
you're
hearing
so
many
questions
david
about
the
timing
and,
as
you
just
mentioned,
you've
you've
gotten
citizen
input.
A
You
know
we're
behind
the
curve
on
this,
we're
behind
the
eight
ball.
We
need
to
try
to
push
this
along.
I
want
to
give
you
david
and
matt
our
own
staff,
the
assurance
that
this
council
is
committed
to
moving
these
problems
forward
and
as
councilmember
gregory,
so
aptly
noted.
When
we
refinanced
a
bond
a
few
weeks
ago.
A
We
have
a
projected
savings
just
on
that
one
matter
of
something
close
to
five
million
dollars
over
the
next
10
years,
and
so
I'm
not
telling
you
the
sky's
the
limit
or
anything
like
that,
but
we
we,
this
council,
will
make
the
funding
available
for
you
to
get
going
on
on
the
the
next
step
of
this
as
quickly
as
you
can
possibly
get
the
scope
done
and
bring
bring
that
to
us.
We
are
ready.
A
In
addition
to
that,
I
I
can't
say
I
can
work
and
imagine
magic,
but
I
feel,
like
the
city
has
a
very
good
relationship
with
the
corps
of
engineer.
Right
now,
with
colonel
hundred
they've
been
working
with
us
swimmingly
and
when
you're,
ready
and
and
that
application
goes
in,
you
let
us
know,
and
we
will
make
contact
with
them
and
urge
them
to
prioritize
it
and
push
it
along.
We
we
all
collectively
this
this
committee
and
this
council
is
ready
to
move
this
forward
as
expeditiously
as
you
can.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
make
sure
everyone
understood
that.
H
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
a
lot,
mr
man.
I
think
that's
it
on
this
discussion.
Unless
I
see
any
more
hands,
we
got
number
four
signal
point
in
greenville
road.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
for
sharing.
I
just
I
did
just
want
to
mention
too,
that
the
city
did
did
comment
and
collaborate
with
a
number
of
other
jurisdictions
on
the
army
corps
of
engineer
permit,
as
well
as
general
permit,
as
well
as
a
little
over
a
year
ago
on
the
dhec
ocrm
general
permit
for
outfall
cleaning.
That's
something
that
we
have
been
coordinating:
kind
of
up
and
down
the
whole
coast
with
different
agencies,
trying
to
make
that
that
work
occur
and
happen,
and
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
success
yet.
I
So
I
certainly
would
encourage
anyone
to
reach
out
to
their
fellow
elected
officials,
because
it
is
that
even
the
most
recent
army
corps
of
engineer
permit
basically
proposed
that
any
five-acre
working
area.
If
you
had
more
than
.1
acres
of
disturbance,
even
grass
cutting
within
the
marsh,
you
would
be
paying
mitigation
fees
for
the
martian
packs.
Above
that
point
one
acres
and
they
they
didn't
really
specify.
I
One
of
our
comments
was
they
didn't
really
specify
if
that
meant
like
every
time
you
cut
the
grass,
if
that's
a
new
mitigation
payment,
even
though
it's
the
same
area
that
you're
kind
of
continually
paying
mitigation
for
so
we
did
have
a
series
of
comments
and
we
work
with
some
of
our
consultants
as
well
and
kind
of
put
together
a
good,
a
good
package
of
questions
and
comments
and
we'll
see
where
that
that
goes,
but
they,
if
the
core
and
dehydra
both
said
they
get
a
lot
of
pressure
from
the
resource
agencies
and
from
kind
of
the
environmental
agencies
to
push
back
and
restrict
those
impacts.
I
H
Okay,
good
all
right
thanks
for
that,
thanks
for
you
and
mr
wood
for
all
your
input
on
that
now,
item
four
signal:
point
and
grenade
range
improvements.
I
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
sherman.
So
this
is
an
update,
I'm
providing
on
behalf
of
the
county
for
sort
of
the
other
major
project,
major
capital
project
work
going
on
in
in
james
island
right
now.
I
So
this
is
one
that
the
kind
of
the
original
the
original
plan
from
a
few
years
ago
was
was
the
city
kind
of
working
on
the
initial
improvements
coming
up
with
the
evaluation
plan
that
worked
the
aecom's
done
in
central
park.
Well,
the
county
kind
of
worked
in
the
grimball
signal
point
area.
So
this
is
the
kind
of
the
other
project
that
it's
been
going
on
for
those
who
aren't
familiar
with
some
of
the
work
we've
done,
james
allen.
I
I
know
councilman
jackson
and
johnson,
gregory
and
councilman
paul
they've
seen
this
before,
but
this
is
sort
of
work
that
we
did
with
the
county,
town
and
city
all
working
together
on
james
island
and
this
drainage
commission.
That
kind
of
takes
place
in
the
physical
island
of
james,
not
the
nutty
town,
but
the
physical
island
to
lay
out
different
drainage
basins,
come
up
with
a
common
picture
between
the
three
entities
and
evaluate
some
basic
basins.
I
For
for
impact
from
flooding
and
different
paths
forward
for
improvement,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
the
the
central
park
basin
is
up
here
in
red
is
really
one
of
the
highest
priority
basins
for
improvements
that
one's
been
worked
on,
one
of
the
ones
I've
been
working
actually
before
we
came
up
with
this.
This
study
is
signal,
point
grim
bull,
which
is
is
down
in
this
area,
so
the
basin.
I
This
is
grimble
road.
Here
you
have
kind
of
south
grimball
and
grimball.
It
actually
connects
all
the
way
back
around
here
to
folly
coming
to
the
north
and
south.
The
large
object
you
see
here
is
the
elementary
school
james
island,
elementary
with
the
new
library
kind
of
coming
into
the
side
here,
just
for
orientation
purposes.
I
The
basin
again
contains
the
school
it
contains,
the
the
new
library
it
has
signal,
point
kind
of
the
commerce
park,
that's
on
sort
of
the
northern
end
of
the
basin
here,
which
experiences
some
extremely
severe
flooding
and
then
there's
a
kind
of
a
series
of
kind
of
historical
low-density
residential.
It's
one
of
the
kind
of
the
older
communities
in
the
area,
a
lot
of
homes
on
kind
of
larger
lots
that
experience
a
lot
of
persistent
and
pervasive
flooding
in
the
area.
I
So
just
from
an
elevation
map,
again
color-coded
elevation
kind
of
pink
being
the
low
here
coming
out
to
the
marsh.
You
can
basically
see
that
grimble
kind
of
creates
a
dam
for
this
center
area
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
flooding
is
occurring
is
that
this
low
blue
area,
just
kind
of
fills
up
with
water
and
really
doesn't
have
a
way
to
get
out.
You
can
see
the
there's
a
small
old
farm,
ditch
through
the
middle
here,
but
it's
heavily
constricted
under
the
two
roadways.
I
Basically
again,
the
roadways
were
constructed
without
really
accounting
for
the
amount
of
water
that
was
trying
to
move
through
that
through
that
system.
So
the
the
county's
been
working
last
few
years.
It's
work
actually
I'm
familiar
with
when
I
was
still
at
the
county.
Doing
design
work
to
improve
these
downstream
constrictions
again
so
that
you
can
get
water
out
more
expeditiously
and
county
council
actually
just
awarded.
I
I
think
their
meeting
about
a
week
ago,
the
construction
contract
to
upsize
the
pipes
under
grimball
here
and
under
grimble
farm
lane
here
in
this
in
the
stitch
system
about
400
000
construction
work
that
should
start
as
soon
as
the
contractor
basically
fills
out
the
final
application
or
final
documentation
and
accepts
the
award
that
should
be
a
six
month,
construction
duration.
There
will
actually
be
about
two
months
of
road
closure
due
to
how
much
utility
work
there
is
that's
most
of
the
work
is
upsizing
those
pipes
and
relocating
utilities.
I
Again
this
is
a
loop
road
and
it's
been
done
in
coordination
with
the
school,
so
it's
being
timed
to
minimize
impacts
to
residents,
but
the
county
is
doing
quite
a
bit
of
notification
in
the
area
to
let
people
know
about
those
those
potential
impacts
and
we'll
help
out
with
that,
as
well
as
they
get
closer
to
that
closure,
so
that
will
that
will
go
in
combination
with
some
of
the
improvements
and
and
maintenance
work.
You
can
see
on
the
canals
here
relieve
a
lot
of
the
pressure.
I
I
It
is
the
the
thing
that
will
come
into
play
for
the
city
at
this
point
is
the
kind
of
stepping
back
so
that
canal
system
sort
of
winds
its
way
up
through
the
center
of
the
basin.
Here,
as
the
county
improves
these
downstream
constrictions,
it
will
free
up
the
ability
to
get
more
water
through
this
canal.
I
H
I
H
Mr
felt
now
item
I
we
have
an
ordinance
demand
chapter
27
of
the
city
code.
Legal
is
going
to
give
an
explanation
on.
G
G
This
ordinance
is
a
very
simple
correction
that
we
need
to
make
to
our
flood
ordinance
and,
it's
simply
to
add
a
definition
for
violation
when
we
are
have
enacted
the
new
flood
maps.
G
One
of
the
things
that
dnr
has
done
is
to
look
through
our
ordinance
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
in
order
and
they
gave
us
a
checklist
of
things
that
should
be
changed,
and
this
was
one
of
the
required
changes
that
they
had
and
basically
they
just
said
that
we're
missing
this
one
definition
other
than
that
our
ordinances
are,
are
good
to
go.
H
Okay,
any
question
on
the
ordinance:
do
we
have
a
motion
on
this
ordinance
so
move
properly
moved
in
second?
Had
any
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
hi
hi,
oh
any
opposed!
Thank
you!
Miss
haverson!
I
think
that's
it
on
this
agenda,
any
additional
information
to
come
before
public
works
committee.
H
Today,
mr
mayor,
I
want
you
to
note
that
we
finished
before
real
estate
this
this
meeting
was
over
with
in
in
40
43
minutes.
Just
want
you
to
know.
I
mean.
H
This
is
the
second
month
in
a
row
saying
I
just
wanted
to
be
probably
do
being
noted
beyond
that.
Listen,
we
all
y'all,
take
care,
stay
safe
and
we'll
see
you
tomorrow.