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City of Charleston Committee on Real Estate 8/16/21
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C
C
Weekend
I
know
the
rain
was
kind
of
messed
up
a
lot
of
our
plans,
but
you
know
does
it
so?
Thank
you
for
those
prayer
council
member
jackson.
Item
number
one,
I'm
sorry
was
it
is
a
as
a
request
for
approval
to
the
purchase.
Some
property
by
the
city
and
shipyard
creek
associates
10
acres
off
of
2001
sowani
road
in
north
charleston.
This
is
like.
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C
B
C
I
H
B
D
C
So
I
my
understanding
of
purchasing
the
land
is
to
replace
the
facility
that
we're
currently
leasing,
which
at
least
is
coming
up
on
where
our
public
works
facilities
are
located
and
we're
essentially
getting
booted
out.
So
we
need
to
find
a
new
home
sooner
than
later,
and
that
this
is
land
that's
made
available
to
us.
Is
that
accurate,
ms
copeland.
D
Yeah,
and-
and
I
would
also
hope
that
there's
a
map
that
can
be
shown
to
us-
is
this
part
of
that-
the
bigger
property
that
the
railway
wants
to
you
know
come
through
is
that
is
that
still
what's
on
the
table
here,
I
I
just
think
a
little
scope
would
help.
All
of
us
to
you
know,
make
a
good
decision
strategically.
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I
rode
over
there
the
other
day
in
anticipation
of
this
property,
so
it
has
a
strategic
location
to
the
existing
brand
new
port,
which
will
probably,
as
I
understand,
accommodate
or
be
used
for
collateral
work
that
port
normally
generates
over
there.
So
it's
going
to
probably
become
a
valuable,
much
more
valuable
property
over
time.
As
things
happen,
when
the
port
is
in
full
gear
operation,
as
we've
seen
in
in
past
history,
it's
also
very
to
my
understanding
conveniently
located
to
right
outside
the
outskirts
of
the
city
of
charleston.
C
This
property
is
not
technically
in
the
boundaries
of
the
city
of
charleston.
I
think
it's
actually
either
unincorporated
or
in
the
city
of
north
charleston,
but
strategically
located.
It
gives
us
a
good
landing
spot
where
we're
still
part
of
the
peninsula
neck
areas
we
have
column
referred
to
and
not
too
far
from
where
we
have
our
existing
facility
so
and
it
is
10
acres.
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F
J
C
C
C
H
Know
david,
don't
I
don't
have
a
map
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
video
hooked
up
right
now,
but
it's
if
you
can
picture
where
sort
of
like
sprule
avenue
is
where
it.
If
you
look
between,
if
you
know
where
shipyard
creek
is
and
then
there's
like
the
jennings
towing
in
garage,
so
it's
kind
of
between
the
port
access
road
and
shipyard
creek.
H
H
Is
so
yeah,
so
just
the
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
the
contract
purchase
price
of
six
million
one
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
the
seller
is
called
shipyard
creek
associates
llc.
It
has
the
city
putting
up
earnest
money
of
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
then
entering
into
or
having
a
due
diligence
period,
during
which
we
would
have
a
free
look
and
could
get
out
for
any
reason,
expiring
on
march
31st
of
2022
and
then
the
after.
That.
H
Closing
is,
I
believe,
either
30
or
45
days,
following
that,
the
the
issues
that
we
need
to
talk
about
are
there.
There
are
a
couple
of
things
going
on.
One
is
that
we
know
the
site
has
got
some
environmental
issues
associated
with
it,
and
so
what
we
are
going
to
need
to
do
is
get
a
phase
one
and
then
pursue
a
voluntary
cleanup
contract
with
dhec,
and
so
I
know
a
lot
of
you
are
probably
familiar
with
the
bcc
process,
but
basically
it's
it's
a
way
for
us.
H
We,
in
order
to
enjoy
the
protections
of
a
voluntary
cleanup
contract.
What
we
have
to
do
is
is
get
it
applied
for
into
some
some
level
of
finality
with
the
heck
before
we
close
on
it,
and
so
what
that
is
is
dx,
saying
it's
kind
of
the
brownfields
program
where
they're,
basically
saying
okay,
you
didn't
have
anything
to
do
with
any
contamination.
That's
on
the
site.
H
We
would
love
for
it
not
to
just
sit
there
forever
without
anybody
doing
anything
to
protect
it
any
further.
So
if
you
will
agree
to
a
work
plan
with
us
to
do
certain
measures,
then
we
will
give
you
all
sorts
of
liability
protections.
So
we
get
a
covenant
not
to
sue
from
dhex.
If
bheck
won't
come,
try
to
do
an
enforcement
action
on
us,
we
get.
H
Agreeing
that
it
will
only
be
used,
for
you
know,
will
never
be
a
daycare
or
won't
ever
be
a
residential
site.
Something
like
that.
So
my
senses,
my
understanding
from
talks
with
the
sellers
and
their
attorneys
is
that
the
environmental,
while
is
some
well
something
that
we
need
to
deal
with
and
be
sure
we
get
a
vcc
that
it's
all
in
keeping
with
what
you'd
expect
to
find
when
you're
buying
you
know
a
public,
a
site
for
a
public
works
facility
in
this
part
of
town.
H
You
know
we
say:
oh
well,
we
still
don't
have
a
vcc
with
dhec.
We
need
more
time.
So
we
were
a
little
concerned,
though,
that
we
may
not
be
able
to
get
all
the
way
through
the
dhec
process
and
get
what
we
need
by
that
125
day
mark.
So
what
we
agreed
to
is.
We
can
actually
push
that
due
diligence
period
out
until
march
31st
2022.
H
H
We've
got
45
days
once
it's
agreed
to
and
they
send
it
to
us.
We've
got
45
days
to
enter
into
an
acceptable
vcc.
That's
to
make
sure
that
if
we
need
to
go
back
to
council
for
anything,
we've
got
plenty
of
time
to
do
that
and
then,
within
30
days
after
getting
the
final
vcc,
we've
got
to
submit
our
work
plan
to
them.
H
The
other
wrinkle
on
this
transaction
is
that
we
have
in
here
a
contingency
for
for
getting
the
property
annexed
from
the
city
of
north
charleston
into
the
city,
and
so
that's
that's
an
issue
we
can
talk
about.
I
I
don't
know
where
we
are
with
that
process.
Currently
I
understand
there
may
be
some
hesitancy
from
north
charleston,
so
we
just
need
to,
I
think,
continue
working
through
that
process,
unless
anybody
has
an
update
that
they'd
like
to
share
on
that
front.
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C
A
C
C
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C
C
H
H
There
is
there's
a
lease
that
will
be
in
in
place
for
a
tail
period
after
we
acquire
it
that
will
then
burn
off
and
then
and
then
at
that
point
we
would
be
in
a
position
to
go
ahead
and
commence
work
on
the
public
works
facility,
and
then
just
you
know
that
I
guess
I
would
just
say
that
the
the
purchase
and
sale
agreement
that
we
negotiated
is
is
you
know,
pretty
light
on
seller
representations
and
warranties.
They
were,
you
know
they
were
pretty
dogmatic
about.
H
You
know
you
guys
do
your
own
environmental,
due
diligence
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff,
so
they
sort
of
said
we've
got.
You
know,
we've
got
mounds
of
paper
on
the
environmental
history
of
this
property
and
we'll
provide
it
all
to
you
and
then
you
need
to
get
with
your
own
environmental
advisors
and
get
comfortable.
H
So
that's
that's
what
we'll
be
doing
right
and
then,
if
other
than
that
other
than
the
few
limited
reps
that
they
give
it's,
as
is
where
is
if
the
city
were
to
default,
then
the
earnest
money
would
serve
as
liquidated
damages
and
if
the
seller
were
to
default,
then
we
can,
I
think,
yeah
we
can.
We
can
pursue
specific
performance
so
seek
to
have
them.
C
C
E
Okay,
well,
thank
you.
You
know,
we've
known
that
we've
had
to
move
this
site
for
a
good
period
of
time.
This
is
a
very
complicated
site.
I
mean
600
north
of
600
000
per
acre.
I
think
it's
too
high
without
mentioning
a
contaminated
piece
of
property.
As
far
as
you
know,
being
close
to
the
port
and
all
of
that
our
public
works.
E
You
know
we
don't
need
water
access,
we
don't
need
board
access
for
our
public
works
department
to
perform
its
functions
across
the
city
of
charleston.
I
I
just
believe
we
can
find
a
team.
They
could
track
less
than
6
million
dollar,
so
some
place
closer
to
city
of
charleston.
Now
you
know
if
we
were
in
the
container
business
or
something
like
that,
then
this
is
a
good
buy
from
a
pricing
standpoint,
some
kind
of
port
warehousing
business
or
something
like
that.
E
But
we
that's
not
our
function
grant
as
close
to
where
it
was,
but
I
think
we
need
to
seek
several
sites
and
make
a
decision
on
that.
I
don't
think
we
should
have
one
site
and
one
side
only
to
choose
from
from
the
benefit
of
the
taxpayers.
I
just
don't
see
whether
that's
where
that's
proper
due
diligence,
so
I
got
me
thinking:
it's
got
to
be
a
piece
of
property,
10
acres
or
something
wes
ashley.
E
I
don't
know
we
go
far
away
as
james
allen,
council,
lady,
but
I
think
it's
too
high
and
I
think
the
property
is
too
complicated
with
contamination,
so
I
think
buying
a
contaminated
piece
of
property.
Food
north
of
600
000
ink
is
too
much
so
I'm
gonna
be
voting
against
this
one.
For
those
and
other
reasons,
I
think
we.
E
L
C
J
J
But
my
understanding
is
that
the
that
we
we
have
an
agreement
in
place
right
now,
with
the
the
new
property
owner
that
we
sold
the
property
to
and
as
part
of
the
the
sale,
we
agreed
that
once
they
give
us
three
years
notice,
we
have
to
leave
the
site,
the
wr
grace
property
on
harmon
street
that
the
city
currently
owns,
I
believe,
was
purchased
again
before
I
joined
the
city
in
contemplation
of
moving
all
or
at
least
a
portion
of.
What's
currently
at
the
milford
street
property.
J
I
believe
that
that's
probably
still
going
to
be
what
happens,
but
as
the
city
has
grown
exponentially
very
quickly
it.
It
doesn't
appear
that
it's
going
to
house
everything.
So
I
don't
know
if
anybody
from
capitol
projects
or
planning
wants
to
jump
in.
I
don't
know
christopher
if
you
want
to
chime
in
on
anything,
but
that
that
is.
That
is
why
we
need
to
relocate.
C
C
C
C
C
M
Like
amy
referenced,
the
wr
grace
site
is
currently
owned
by
the
city
and
lee's
had
a
pretty
well
developed
explanation
that,
with
our
needs,
our
current
needs
and
our
future
needs
that
site
doesn't
suffice
in
size
for
future
planning
of
the
public
works
facility.
So
that's
why
this
effort
to
locate
an
additional
piece
of
property
was
undertaken
to
plan
for
the
future.
If
you
will
so
that's,
that's,
we
have
we.
G
Okay,
can
I
can,
I
add
something
to
that:
it's
not
just
a
public
works
facility
either
it
was
you
know
we
have
fire
logistics,
that
we
need
to
move
and
some
other
other
storm
water
and
all
of
the
streets
and
sidewalks
regular
fleet.
So
it's
all
of
that
on
milford.
That
needs
to
be
moved
and
I
believe
the
boassa
would
just
have
public
works
and
maybe
stormwater
on
it
and
then
grace
could
maybe
house
the
other
things,
and
all
of
this
was
supposed
to
be
funded
with
tiff
dollars
on
in
that
tif
district.
G
That's
why
the
grace
site
was
ours
to
use
and
to
use
to
funds
for
the
bowasso
property
is
not
within
the
tif
district
and
it's
not
within
the
city
of
charleston.
So
unless
we
we
get
annexed
in,
we
can't
and
then
do
the
resolution
with
council.
We
won't,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
use
tif
dollars,
so
those
things
have
have
to
happen
as
well.
D
D
H
H
H
As
I
understand
it,
the
annexation
is
key
because
well
hey.
We
would
like
to
have
our
public
works
facility
in
our
own
city,
of
course,
but
b.
I
think
we
need
to
be
in
the
city
in
order
to
be
able
to
use
tif
dollars
to
construct
the
facility.
So
my
guess
is
that
if
we
didn't
work
out
the
annexation,
then
we
would
probably
have
to
terminate.
D
C
I
don't
know
if
this
the
history
didn't
it
before,
but
by
understanding
annexation
laws.
You
have
to
have
a
city
that
is,
it
currently
is
in
consent
to
to
do
this
and
they
don't
consent.
You
might
as
well
just
forget
about
doing
that.
So
we
would
need
north
charleston's
approval
to
get
the
first
base
on
this
site
right.
L
I
had
one
other
comment
that
I
wanted
to
add
to
this:
councilman
waring
talked
about
the
environmental
on
the
site
and
and
actually
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
site.
I
worked
for
a
design
firm
when
this.
This
whole
development
was
created
many
years
ago,
this
site,
the
majority
of
it,
was
cleaned
up
to
industrial
standards,
and
if
this
was
purchased
and
public
service
was
there,
it
would
be
an
industrial
use.
So
it's
compatible
from
a
from
a
cleanup
standpoint.
C
D
C
Any
days,
hey,
okay,
okay,
all
right,
we'll
pass
it
on
for
reason,
means
for
that
consideration.
Thank
you
all
for
that
item
b
is
request
for
clue
of
a
license
agreement
with
tour
management
inc
for
the
carolina
bale
operator
of
the
maritime
center.
Ms
copeland,
is
this
yours
as
well
matt
you
going
to
talk
about
this
fund
for
us.
Thank
you.
F
Sharon
this
is
matt.
This
is
the
request
for
approval
of
a
license
agreement
with
tour
management
services,
otherwise
known
as
charleston
harbor
tours
for
their
commercial
vessel.
The
carolina
bell.
We
previously
had
a
five-year
agreement.
It
was
a
one-year
agreement
with
two
two-year
renewal
options
on
it
that
expires
at
the
end
of
this
month.
F
This
is
a
request
for
a
new
license
agreement,
essentially
based
on
the
same
term.
Some
of
the
financial
numbers
have
been
adjusted
to
get
to
where
we
are
currently
with
the
cost
of
of
dockage
and
things
of
that
nature.
The
only
other
change
is
one
year
with
two
one-year
renewal
options
to
three
years
in
total.
This
is
request
from
councilmember
del
chapo
just
because
of
the
changing
scope
of
the
area
there
and
not
knowing
how
things
would
be
and
from
some
feedback
from
some
of
the
condos
anson
house,
lauren's
place
stock
side.
F
Well,
it
won't
directly.
I
will
tell
you
that
charleston
harbor
tours
is
having
conversations
for
my
understanding
with
the
iam
about
trying
to
set
up
some
very
specific
types
of
tours
associated
with
the
museum,
but
really
the
only
impact
would
be
just
the
interaction
of
visitors,
maybe
coming
to
take
a
trip
on
their
vessel
and
those
coming
to
the
museum.
That's
really
kind
of
the
only
impact
there
would.
There
would
be.
C
Request
for
approval
of
a
five-year
lease
and
facilities
use
agreement
between
the
city
and
charleston
stage,
the
dock
street
theater.
It
includes
the
release
of
existing
office
space
on
the
third
floor
in
terms
of
conditions
for
the
use
of
theater
for
performance
and
technical
delays
technical
days.
I'm
sorry
that
is
yours
as
well.
F
Yes,
sir,
so
this
is
the
agreement
with
the
charleston
stage.
We
have
an
existing
agreement
for
office
space
on
the
third
floor.
This
is
to
continue
that
for
another
five
years
under
the
same
terms
and
conditions
we
had
previously
what
el,
what
else
we
are
doing
is
we
are
putting
in
performance
and
technical
day
rental
into
writing.
We
have
had
a
practice
with
them
for
years,
but
we
are
really
just
just
putting
it
into
an
actual
formal
written
agreement.
G
C
Those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
item
number
d
is
request
for
approval.
The
first
amendment
to
the
management
and
operating
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
charleston
area,
visitor
convention
and
visitors
bureau
regarding
the
visitor
center
by
shed
best
friend,
museum,
john
street
parking
and
vrtc
meeting
street
parking
lot.
F
This
is
a
first
amendment
to
the
management
agreement
with
the
cacvb
for
the
vrtc
complex,
which
encompasses
all
those
areas
that
you
mentioned.
There's
two
parts
to
this
amendment.
The
first
is
cleaning
up
some
of
the
exhibits
language
for
the
john
street
lot.
It
was
originally
drafted
for
31
spaces.
F
F
The
second
and
bigger
part
is
the
addition
of
the
front
meeting
the
vrtc
meeting
street
surface
lot.
This
would
lease
the
lot
to
the
cacvb
to
manage
much
like
the
john
street
lot,
but
for
the
for
the
remainder
of
the
management
agreement,
it's
based
on
200
and
I
think
it's
30
000.
correct
me:
30
000
or
40
000.
230
000
the
first
year
and
increasing
at
seven
and
a
half
percent
per
year
and
capped
at
390
thousand
dollars.
B
F
F
The
revenue
generated
history
over
the
last
eight
years
of
the
vrtc
lot
to
kind
of
come
up
with
what
we
thought
would
make
the
city
whole
and,
as
things
have
changed
in
that
area
and
how
we
see
parking
revenue
increasing
to
make
sure
that
we
were,
we
were
kept
financially
stable.
With
this
deal
great.
Thank
you.
C
K
Yep
matt
o'jalla's,
going
in
for
gianna
today.
The
item
before
you
is
a
request
to
facilitate
the
creation
of
rental
workforce
housing
by
authorizing
the
mayor
to
execute
a
transfer
agreement
and
all
other
necessary
documents
for
the
city's
transfer
of
a
parcel
to
the
crc's
palmetto
community
land
trust.
K
In
addition,
the
dhl
also
contained
an
automatic
right
of
reversion.
In
the
event,
the
developer
does
not
initiate
construction
of
an
affordable
housing
project
within
three
years.
The
crc
is
currently
determining
how
homes
could
best
be
situated
on
the
site,
and
I
believe
fa
johnson
with
the
crc,
is
on
the
line
to
help
field
any
questions
regarding
potential
development
opportunities
on
the
parcel.
Thank
you.
C
That
was
a
very
complicated
explanation
and
I
think
it
would
sort
of
fit
into
the
length
of
the
description
under
item
e.
So
is
there
a
motion
to
adopt
item
e,
a
move
we
approve.
Is
there
a
second
I'll
see
all
right?
Anybody
have
any
I'm.
I'm
sure
some
of
you
have
a
question
about
this.
Does
anybody
have
a
question
about
item
e?
They
want
to
talk
about
or
discussion
of
that.
Yes,
sir,
mr
mayor.
B
N
Mayor
are
you
able
to
hear
me?
Yes,
sir?
Thank
you
okay,
yeah
good
afternoon.
I
do
think
it
will
be
under
six
units.
Most
likely
we've
looked
at
some
existing
plans
to
see
could
we
fit
some
quad
quadruplexes
on
there?
The
challenge,
in
addition
to
being
a
small
site,
is
there's
a
storm
water
drain
that
runs
diagonally
across
a
portion
of
that
site.
So
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
real
high
density.
Hopefully
we
can
use
that
for
parking,
but
we
are
go.
N
C
Mr
jones,
that
does
clarify
a
lot
of
stuff.
Thank
you
for
that
input.
Yes,
sir.
Okay,
all
right!
Anybody
else
have
any
questions.
Concerns
for
the
discussion
on
item
e,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
hi,
hi,
andy
opposed.
I
have
it
item
f,
is
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
the
city
in
landmark.
This
is
for
the
sumar
street
redevelopment
and
I've
had
several
discussions
with
the
mayor
and
with
copeland
on
this
issue.
So
julia
you
want
to
give
us
an
update
of
where
we
are
with
this
mou.
I
Yeah,
unfortunately,
it's
a
348
today
we
still
not
have
come
to
a
meeting
of
the
minds,
we're
still
negotiating
some
small
terms,
but
I
think
we're
very
close,
but
it
just
came
to
the
point
where
we
didn't
want
to
dump
a
document
on
on
this
committee
and
council
at
the
last
minute.
We
want
to
give
you
the
opportunity
to
review
it
and
process
it
and
consider
it
at
the
september
meetings.
C
C
The
man
knows
my
frustration
and
the
scope
of
knows
my
frustration.
So
there's
the
landmark
votes.
I've
expressed
myself
very
clearly
of
how
I
feel
about
where
we
are
with
this
and
the
lack
of
progress.
With
this
thing
we
started
the
negotiations
back
in
a
year
ago,
and
I
just
don't
I'm
sorry.
I
just
don't
understand
why
we're
having
this
difficulty.
Quite
frankly
with
you.
E
C
I'm
frustrated,
I
know
that
many
of
my
constituents
are
frustrated
with
this
development.
I've
heard
from
councilmember
wearing
me.
I
I
can
pretty
much
anticipate
what
he's
going
to
say
right
now,
and
I
it's
just
I
I
I
I'm
probably
asked
with
the
whole
process
quite
frankly
and
I'm
about
to
pull
whatever
hair.
I
got
left
on
my
side.
F
B
There
was
really
just
one
point
that
we
were
waiting
to
resolve
last
week
and
and
when
it
didn't
resolve
early
this
morning,
it
led
to
your
frustration
and
mine,
but
I
did
speak
directly
to
to
jason,
ward
and-
and
I
feel
like
verbally,
we,
we
worked
out
a
very
good
resolution
to
that
point,
and
so
and
that's
the
last
one.
So
we'll
have
it
at
your
next
committee
meeting.
E
Emotional
outburst
about
this,
but
I
do
believe
that
we've
got
enough
new
people
on
council
that
we
need
to
have
another
presentation
on
what
we'd
like
to
see
happen
at
this
piglet
wiggly
site.
It
has
been
years
since
the
initial
proposal
was
presented
to
council
and
I
I
dare
say
a
majority
of
council
right
now
if
they
like
dependent
on
it.
If
you
ask
them
what's
going
to
be
built
on
that
site,
oh
even
through
this
developer
was
gonna
be
put
there.
K
E
I
don't
think
it
should
be
that
way
you
you
are
taking
on
too
much
stress.
I
understand
why,
mr
chairman,
because
this
is
in
the
cdo
district,
but
that
gateway
belongs
to
all
of
us
and
we
all
are
concerned
about.
What's
going
to
take
place
there,
you
know
last
rendition
that
I
saw
you
know
my
good
friend
developed
it,
but
it's
got
a
big
old
towel
tall
enough
that
you
can
see
the
ashley
river
in
the
aftermath.
Looking
at
that,
all
I
could
think
of
university
of
texas.
E
You
know
in
austin
when
the
person
got
up
in
the
tower.
You
know
really
seriously.
You
know
this
their
open
carry
that
we
got
around
here.
I
don't
know
that.
That's
the
best
thing
to
have
at
that
site.
Maybe
we
have
a
big
water
fountain
like
they
have
down
at.
What's
the
pretty
part
down
in
savannah,
you
know
the
parkinson
met
savannah.
E
E
E
Somehow
he
went
in
a
room
and
came
out
with
they
did
with
one
developer
and
they
wasted
10
years
on
developing
what
is
a
wonderful
track
on
the
waterfront
right
now.
This
is
a
gateway
that
we
get
it
planted
the
right
way.
One
time
around,
you
know
we
successfully
fought.
All
of
us
did
who
knew
mr
chairman,
to
stop
a
20-tank
gas
station
from
being
at
the
gateway
there.
You
know
making.
F
E
E
A
gateway
coming
into
the
birthplace
of
south
carolina
and
right
now
too
much
of
council
that
I
know
the
specifics
on
what's
going
to
unfold
and
respectfully
mr
mayor,
even
if
they
just
go
and
sign
the
agreement,
we
don't
know
what
that
is.
I
think
you
and
mr
man,
councilman
shahid,
probably
knows
more
than
everybody
else.
F
E
We
paid
a
premium
for
that
property
and
I
think
we
all
should
go
forward
not
divided
in.
What's
going
to
happen
this
and
right
now
we're
just
not
in
that
position.
So
first
I
would
hope.
I'm
gonna
vote
for
the
deferral,
but
I
would
hope
that
we
would
have
a
presentation
on
what
we
would
like
to
see
unfold
there.
So
we
can
develop
a
consensus
as
a
council
as
opposed
to
an
arm
wrestling
contest
as
which
was
supposed
to
go
there.
So.
C
Thank
you,
councilman,
and
you
know
I'll.
I
won't
take
the
credit
for
I
participated
in
that
20-pound
gas
station
and
it
was
a
huge
community
effort,
including
my
predecessor,
who
spoke
very
eloquently
there
and
other
members
of
the
community.
I
think
even
mr
tinkler
showed
up
for
that.
If
I
recall
probably-
and
we-
and
we
did,
we
were
very
successful
and
defeating
that,
because
of
everything
you
just
said
this
is
you
and
I
have
beat
this
drum
the
same
way.
C
This
is
the
gateway
to
shop
to
the
birthplace
of
south
carolina,
the
gateway
to
charleston.
In
our
earlier
meeting
we
had
on
public
safety,
we
we
talked
about
the
possib,
the
potential
of
what
this
property
could
do
for
the
city
of
charleston
for
all
the
citizens
and
it's
it
is
a
and
we
and
you're
right.
C
We
got
one
shot
at
this
thing
and
one
shot
only
in
in
your
analogy
with
the
noise
that
project
is
probably
right
on
and
we've
got
to
be
diligent
with
this
thing,
which
is
part
of
my
frustration,
I
think
you're
right,
I
think
we'll
go
back
and
show
the
design
that
we
had
in
mind
to
all
of
councils.
So
they
see
this.
I
think
that's
a
good
idea
and
we
could
probably
do
that
before
our
this
thing
comes
back
to
us
with
the
mlu.
C
I
I
just
hope
and
pray
that
this
is
what
they
promise
us
and
can
come
through
with
it
at
this
point,
so
we'll
defer
it
and
we'll
come
back
for
more
discussions
on
this
see
what
it
is
and
maybe
even
if
we
have
to
do
a
special
workshop
meeting.
All
this
saying
we
could
do
that,
but
I
think
it's
your
point
as
well.
Take
it
on
the
presentation
part
of
it.
So
all
those
in
favor
of
deferring
item
f,
simplify
by
saying
aye
aye
aye,
and
he
opposed
the
arts
habit.