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City of Charleston Committee on Real Estate 11/30/20
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C
Thank
you.
I
hope
everybody
had
a
pleasant
thanksgiving
if
anybody
was
like
myself,
I
ate
too
much
food
and
but
did
enjoy
the
company
of
family
and
some
small
groups
of
friends.
So
thank
you
all
very
much
for
joining
us
on
the
monday
after
thanksgiving,
I
think
we're
all
well
and
ready
to
proceed
with
this
other
business.
For
the
members
of
our
committee.
The
first
order
of
business
is
approval.
C
F
The
name
of
the
agreement
is
a
real
property
exchange
agreement
and,
basically,
what
it
allows
is
for
a
property
swap
between
the
city
of
charleston
and
america,
street
ventures,
llc,
which
is
a
llc
that
was
created
by
the
humanities
foundation
for
the
purposes
of
developing
properties
in
the
east
side
of
charleston,
and
I
would
say
this
effort
started
many
months
ago.
We
presented
this
idea
initially
to
the
city
committee
of
city
council
many
months
ago,
when
this
was
first
brought
to
our
planning
team.
F
With
regard
to
the
effort
that
the
humanities
foundation
was
undertaking,
the
premise
is
this
organization
wanted
to
build
additional,
affordable
housing
in
the
east
side
community?
As
you
all
know,
they
recently
purchased
the
archer
school
with
help
from
the
city
of
charleston
and
the
bond
funds
that
we
awarded
to
them
at
that
particular
site.
They
are
going
to
build
88
units
of
senior
housing
in
the
affordable
category.
F
F
What
they
discovered
after
conferring
with
our
planning
staff,
is
that
the
properties
that
they
were
looking
at
were
identified
in
our
dutch
dialogues
report
as
those
that
we
did
not
want
developed.
We
literally-
and
we
are
this-
the
city
we
did
not
want
those
developed.
We
really
wanted
to
maintain
those
properties
as
vacant
parcel
for
storm
water
management
purposes,
knowing
that
they
still
had
a
desire
to
develop
housing
again.
F
F
Those
property
income
ranges
would
go
from
30
percent
ami
up
to
120
percent
of
the
area,
median
income,
and
so
within
this
agreement
there
are
inspection
periods
allowed
and
I'm
going
to
ask
chip
to
cover
that.
But
the
genesis
is
that,
ultimately,
the
goal
would
be
to
build
additional,
affordable
housing,
which
is
the
goal
of
the
humanities
foundation.
In
this
case,
america,
ventures,
llc
and
then
the
goal
for
the
city
of
charleston
is
to
maintain
the
land
that
we
have
identified
in.
Our
dutch
dialogues
report
is
land
for
storm
water
management
chip.
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C
F
A
Yeah
thank
thank
you
michael
jones,
and
I
I
was
going
to
say
the
same
thing.
I
know
that
ms
doran
and
her
team
are
on
the
on
the
meeting
and
I
do
think
it
would
be
prudent
of
us
or
strategic
of
us
to
let
let
them
at
least
explain
their
motivation
for
for
getting
involved
in
this
land
swap,
I
think,
we've
sort
of
had
a
history
as
a
committee
of
always
letting
an
applicant
come
before
us
and
I
do
think
it's
a
helpful
perspective.
B
The
somewhat
some
complications
are
that
so
these
the
parcels
owned
by
the
humanities
foundation
or
under
a
contract
to
be
purchased
by
the
humanities
foundation,
the
fair
market
value,
which
I
think
both
parties
obtained
appraisals,
the
fair
market
value
of
those
properties,
is
1.395
million
and
the
the
fair
market
value
of
the
city's
properties
shown
in
pink
is
1.95
million.
The
the
difference
in
fair
market
value
is
offset
by
a
right
of
first
refusal.
B
That's
it's
part
of
the
it's
called
schedule
27
to
the
agreement,
but
it
essentially
allows
the
city
to
after
the
first
15
years
of
affordable
housing
and
development.
If
the
owner
wants
to
sell
it,
we
have
the
city
would
have
a
right
of
first
refusal
and
not
only
that
we
pay
90
of
the
of
the
purchase
price
under
that
right
of
first
refusal,
not
the
entire
purchase
price,
the
as
far
as
the
transaction
of
the
the
swapping
of
the
parcels
there's
a
45
day
from
the
data.
B
B
To
close,
our
property
is
under
a
vcc
with
dhec.
We
purchased
it
part
of
the
cooper
river
bridge
redevelopment
area.
I'm
not
d
yeah,
dx
and
so
we're
under
an
obligation
to
clean
up
our
portion
of
the
property
for
any
contaminants,
which
I
think
are
petroleum
related.
We
will.
We
have,
I
believe
in
hand
a
vc.
I
mean
a
what's
called
the
phase,
one
environmental
site
assessment
for
the
properties
that
we
would.
The
city
would
receive
under
this
and
we
would
undergo
further
environmental
investing
during
the
45
day
period.
B
A
key
issue
for
us
is
going
to
be
whether
or
not
there's
contaminate
if
there's
contamination
on
the
property,
regardless
of
what
dutch
dialogue
say,
we
may
not
be
able,
without
great
expense,
to
keep
it
in
its
natural
state
or
or
not.
Building
you
might
have
to
cap
it
or
something
like
that,
in
which
case
there's
no
reason
for
us
to
use
it
as
storm
water
management,
necessarily
at
least
not
without
great
expense.
B
Matt
fountain
will
be
involved
in
that
part
of
the
decision
and
reviewing
the
environmental,
but
a
key
element
will
be
invested,
the
environmental
portion
for
us,
because
it's
if
the
purpose
is
to
hold
storm
water
or
to
keep
it
in
its
natural
state,
we
need
to
make
sure
we
can
do
that
under
the
current
environmental
conditions,
there'll
be
a
closing
in
which
the
properties
will
trade,
deeds
and
affordable
housing
restrictions
will
be
put
on
the
property.
That's
conveyed
to
the
foundation
for
development.
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G
Yeah,
it's
a
good
question
councilman,
so
this
the
dutch
dialogues.
When
they
looked
at
this
area,
they
were
doing
similar
to
what
they've
sort
of
had
done
with
a
little
more
detail
on
the
the
johns
island
discussion
where
they
were
sort
of
saying
the
kind
of
the
lowest
wettest
areas
of
the
kind
of
the
neighborhood
should
be
reserved
for
where
the
water
is
naturally
going
to,
and
not
basically
built
upon
pushing
that
water
onto
other
properties.
G
So
I
don't
know
I
mean
aecom
is
still
doing
our
evaluation
work.
I
don't
know
how
much
how
much
easy.
As
mr
mcqueen
mentioned
too,
how
much
easy
storage
there
will
be
or
improvement
to
the
area
there
will
be
on
those
properties,
but
it's
it's.
I
think
it's
more
the
potential
for
avoidance
of
those
properties
being
developed
in
a
way
that
harms
the
surrounding
properties.
It's
much
easier
to
develop.
G
It's
certainly
doable,
but
it's
much
more
expensive
when
you
have
those
very
very
low-lying
properties
and
that's
that's
always
a
challenge
when
you're
building,
affordable
housing
units-
so
I
think
that's
that's
probably
where
we're
leaning
towards
is
trying
to
shift
the
the
development
on
two
properties
more
suitable
for
it,
and
leave
a
pathway
for
water
management
in
the
future,
and
that
will
be
part
of
the
work
that
aecom
will
be
doing
as
they're
they're.
Currently
doing
their
survey
work
out.
G
Yes,
yes,
it's
entirely
possible.
I
think
mr
mcqueen
got
into
the
some
of
the
challenges
that
may
occur
with
that
potentially,
but
there
are
options
I
mean
there's
things
you
can
do
like
soil
removal
and
lining
on
this
type
of
parcel
may
not
be
left.
Is
it's
unlikely
to
be
left?
Maybe,
as
is
pure
green
space,
I
think
one
concept
has
been
open
pond
management
which
might
require
liners
if
we
went
with
that
approach,
there's
potential,
for
you
know,
conveyance
features
for
pipes
or
for
other
other
systems.
G
And
if,
if
that
were
to
happen,
say
on
these
blue
properties,
and
you
were
to
subdivide
those
out
build
them
up,
you
know
three
or
four
feet
higher.
Then
the
city
parcels
to
the
north
would
be
much
harder
to
develop,
because
now
all
of
the
water
from
these
parcels
will
be
pushing
onto
those
city-owned
parcels.
So
I
think
what
ms
johnson
was
looking
for
here
was
trying
to
find
a
agreement
that
worked
with
all
the
parties
to
say:
hey,
we
all
have
you
know
values
here
and,
and
we
all
have
similar
interests
here.
G
How
can
we
make
the
properties
we
all
control
work
in
the
most
efficient
way
possible
to
get
affordable
housing
built
at
an
advantage?
The
city
well
not
causing
stormwater
problems
on
the
adjacent
parcels,
so
it's
not
a.
There
is
no
perfect
solution
out
here.
That's
why
we're
in
the
middle
of
spending.
Currently,
you
know
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
on
drainage,
evaluation,
work
and
likely
millions
of
dollars
on
improvement
projects,
but
I
think
this
is
probably
something
that
will
certainly
mimic
more
of
what
the
water
is
trying
to
do
in
the
area.
C
B
So
obviously
this
was
part
of
the
bridge
and
the
bridge
ran
through
the
city's
properties
and
maybe
a
portion
of
the
blue
properties.
I'm
not
sure.
But
that's
you
know
this
area
of
the
city
too.
I'm
worried
about
environmental
contamination
anyway,
but
I
don't
have
any
I'm
not
suggesting
these
properties
are
contaminated.
I'm
just
saying
it
would
require
further
investigation
because
of
the
closeness
to
the
former
highway.
There.
B
Yes,
sir,
and
that's
part
of
our
due
diligence
process,
we'll
investigate
that
and
bring
in
matt
and
that'll
be
part
of
the
due
diligence,
and
I
just
want
to
give
everybody
a
heads
up
that
you
know
then
there's
a
problem.
That's
likely
to
be.
The
problem
is
the
environmental
again,
there
may
not
be
an
environmental,
and
hopefully
there's
not,
but
that's
that's
one-
that
light
bulbs
went
off
when,
when
you
look
at
these
type
transactions
in
this
area,.
C
Yeah,
although
I
see
that
mayor,
teklenberg
and
councilman
warren
have
joined
us,
and
I
hope
that
they're
flush
with
some
extra
cash
in
their
pocket
from
their
to
me,
that
we
give
you
the
thumbs
up,
yes,
ma'am,
it's
you
on
the
show
on.
I
don't
want
to
cut
you
off,
but
I
just
see
them
come
on.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
all
right.
C
C
Millions
and
millions
of
dollars
on
these
budgets
and
after
a
while
the
commas,
get
misplaced.
Unfortunately,
so
so
mayor,
teklenberg
and
councilman
wearing
we're
still
on
item
a
dealing
with
this
property
swap
on
america,
street
for
a
senior
housing,
affordable,
senior
housing
to
be
developed,
and
mr
gianna
shaw
you
who
else
was
on
the
call
that
you
wanted
us
to
hear
from
giona.
F
F
No
sir,
this
is
a
new
deal.
We
presented
this
idea
at
a
cd
committee
of
city
council,
probably
at
the
beginning
of
this
year,
in
the
form
of
a
property
property
swap
or
an
exchange
between
the
city
of
charleston
and
humanities
foundation,
the
properties
that
we
own
they
would
want
to
develop,
affordable,
senior
housing
on
the
property
that
they
have
under
contract.
They
own
one
of
the
parcels.
Currently
we
would
seek
to
utilize
with
storm
water
management.
C
Wearing
also
the
if
you
caught
the
last
part
of
the
conversation,
the
difference
in
price
on
the
blue
property,
which
is
owned
by
the
foundation
now,
and
this
reddish
pinkish
property
that
the
city
owns
the
appraisal
differential
is
about
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
with
the
the
city
owning
the
more
higher
end
appraised
value
and
as
mr
mcqueeny
and
mr
fountain
had
talked
about
the.
If
we
obtain
this
property,
it
will
be
more
consistent
with
stormwater
management
with
the
dutch
dialogues
recommendation.
C
C
J
J
Yes
well
good
afternoon
and
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
attend
the
real
estate
meeting
this
afternoon
and
as
gianna
presented
and
chip
mcqueeny
has
presented.
This
is
a
rather
complex
transaction
that
has
evolved
over
this
past
year
and
I
really
do
appreciate
the
mayor
and
city
staff
and
especially
gianna,
for
continuing
to
try
to
move
this
forward
and
find
a
way
that
we
can
all
have
a
win-win
situation.
J
We
are
excited
about
it
from
the
humanities
foundation.
We
have
been,
you
know
very
vested
on
the
east
side
for
some
time
now,
not
only
through
our
affordable
housing
efforts,
but
through
our
resident
service
efforts.
Our
food
deliveries,
security
cameras,
lots
of
things
that
we've
been
involved
in
and
we
really
have
been
looking
at
the
east
side
in
a
more
holistic
way.
You
know
what
what
can
be
done
to
solve
some
of
the
problems
there
and
how
can
we
play
a
part?
J
And
so
this
we
sort
of
happened
on
to
this,
as
gianna
explained
by
looking
at
some
of
these
lots
that
were
available
and
the
lots
in
blue
just
so.
Everyone
understands
those
are
currently
zoned
for
single
family
and
if
you
look
at
the
first
sketch,
where
you
see
the
blue
to
the
left
and
then
there
is
a
blank
white
spot
and
then
you
go
to
the
other
two
blue
parcels.
J
Four
single
family
homes
have
been
built
on
that
already,
and
that
is
the
trend.
The
houses
are
tall,
skinny
built
up
above
flood
and
and,
as
someone
said
before,
they
don't
have
to
meet
the
same
storm
water
requirements
because
they're
they're
less
than
half
an
acre,
they're
smaller
lots.
So
that
is
the
trend
here,
and
the
concern
would
be
if
these
lots
aren't
used.
You
know
for
stormwater
drainage
or
taken
off
of
the
development
map
that
those
would
be
built
out.
J
But
we
also-
and
this
isn't
part
of
this
transaction,
but
as
part
of
this
whole
block,
we
also
have
the
church
under
contract,
and
I
believe
the
mayor
has
looked
at
it
for
our
group.
That
may
be
interested,
but
we
feel
that's
an
important
part
of
this.
This
effort,
it's
on
the
corner
of
america
and
cooper
street
and
there's
a
lot
of
community
support.
J
So
there's
some
synergism
here
that
together
this
whole
block
may
work,
whereas
separately
it
may
not
work
as
well.
So
again,
those
are
some
of
the
answers.
You
know
that
we
hope
to
be
getting
soon
so
that
we
all
know
how
to
proceed.
But
I
think
that
it's
a
great
opportunity
and
again
I
think,
all
the
city
staff
and
the
mayor
for
working
to
get
it
this
far.
C
A
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
really
appreciate
hearing
from
miss
doran
as
the
purchasing
or
the
swapping
party.
I
I've
been
following
this
deal
ever
since
it
was
presented
to
the
community
development,
and
I
really
have
gotten
a
lot
out
of
just
the
just
the
deal
making
that
we've
had
to
do
between
the
parties.
I
I
think
that
we
are.
We
are
setting
up
some
sort
of
model
that
I
think
we
should
be
talking
about
in
in
next
city
journals,
and
things
like
that,
for
this
is
truly
urban
conservation
at
its
finest.
A
For
all
the
right
reasons-
and
I
I
I
feel
like
you
know,
this
is
an
opportunity
that
the
city
happy
to
have
somebody
with
a
with
a
stakeholder
partner
that
has
proven
themselves
like
humanity's
foundation
for
all
the
of
the
affordability
and
the
and
the
services
that
they've
brought
to
a
community
that
really
has
gone
short,
strict
in
terms
of
city
attention
over
the
decades.
So
I
I
know
that
we've
got
an
ordinance
to
pass.
This
is
going
to.
A
K
If
you
think
about
this,
this
cooper
river
bridge
property
that
the
city
really
got
years
ago,
all
the
way
from
meeting
street
to
america
street.
This
is
going
to
fill
it
out,
we're
getting
ready
next
month,
I
hope-
or
in
the
first
quarter
of
next
year,
to
break
ground
on
the
lewis
apartments
in
the
next
block,
and
then
the
humanities
foundation
would
be
able
to
build
affordable
housing
in
the
pink
spots
that
you
see
there.
K
And
then
we
had
the
the
dutch
dialogues
that
that
recommended
that
we
utilize
part
of
this
property
for
water
retention
and
to
help
with
drainage
in
the
neighborhood,
and
this
is
the
exact
creek
bed
of
I
didn't
even
know.
This
name
existed
until
I
looked
on
an
old
map
after
the
dutch
dialogues.
Epis
study
that
we
had
this
was
vardal
creek.
This
is
this
right.
K
You
know
it's
property
that
that
had
come
to
the
city.
For
just
this
purpose,
we
have
a
long-standing
trusted
partner
in
the
humanities
foundation.
Yeah
there's
some
more
things
we
need
to
to
drill
down
on
on
on
some
particulars,
but
in
concept
I
I
just
couldn't
support
this
effort
more.
I
think
it
really
pulls
together
a
lot
of
pieces
that
we've
been
yearning
to
do
for
the
last
few
years.
H
I
I
do
mr
timmy
may
I
want
to
follow
up
on
what
the
mayor
said.
I
mean
several
years
back
even
before
the
mayor
got
elected,
believe
it
or
not.
There
was
some
talk
of
selling
this
property
where
the
bridge
came
down
and
now,
when
you
see
it
being
built
out
kind
of
like
the
government
and
vision,
you
know
this
is
supposed
to
help
mitigate
the
community
that
was
displaced
years
ago
when
the
bridges
were
built,
and
this
was
part
of
that
mitigation
agreement
as
as
we
caught
it.
H
That
vision
is
now
unfolding
and
I
believe,
when
all
include
grace
homes
and
what
will
soon
be
james
lewis,
housing
development
and
the
humanities
foundation,
there
will
probably
be
more
affordable
units
put
back
than
was
initially
displaced
when
the
bridge
project
came
through
yeah.
I
don't
know
60
years
ago
whenever
it
was
so.
You
know
when
we
get
letters
from
professors
at
the
college
and
we
get
the
the
piece
about
and
they
I
know
their
hearts
in
the
right
place
about
you
know:
defunding,
the
police
generate
five
million
dollars.
H
H
I
wrote
today
after
church
on
sunday,
mr
mia
and
as
I
said
that
w
l
king's
pool
is
looking
great,
the
south
carolina
state
facility,
the
community
center,
that's
another
one
that
looking,
I
think,
they're
getting
ready
to
cut
the
ribbon
on
them.
All
those
were
for
a
vision,
that's
now
up
in
reality.
So
thanks
for
everybody
involved
by
the
way,
ms
doran,
how
long
are
these
apartments
gonna
be?
What's
the
affordability
period
on
this
unit.
K
Member
then,
a
lot
of
times
humanities
foundation
will
renew
those
credits
which
would
extend
them.
In
the
event,
the
agreement
says
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
whichever
attorney
was
working
on
this-
that
in
the
event
they
they
don't
renew
those
credits
and
that
affordability
at
that
point,
the
city
would
have
the
right
to
buy
the
property
back
from
humanity.
C
You
councilman
well,
I
think
this
has
all
been
well
said.
You
know,
I
think
our
conversation
and
mindset
on
affordable
housing
has
taken
a
sharp
turn
to
support
this
much
more
than
we
have
in
the
in
the
past
and
the
city's
much
more
engaged,
and
this
is
going
to
be
as
I,
if
I
heard
correctly,
affordable
housing
for
seniors.
C
On
top
of
that-
and
I
think
that's
just
another
segment
of
our
population-
that
we
need
to
pay
a
lot
more
attention
to
and
they're
going
to
stay
on
the
peninsula,
which
is
even
more
of
a
benefit.
The
infrastructure's
there
for
seniors
to
have
more
accessibility
to
other
services
and
the
ones
that
you
just
mentioned.
Councilman
wearing
the
other
city
amenities,
so
they're
gonna
be
located
nearby.
C
It
does
sound
a
little
off
when
you
talk
about
a
600
000
differential,
but
I
think
this
is
more
than
just
a
price
tag
on
appraisals.
I
think
this
is
more
of
the
usefulness
of
those
properties
that
we're
going
to
get
back
in
return
and-
and
that's
that
that'll
say
some
things,
but
he
can't
buy.
This
is
one
of
those
things.
I
think
that
money
can't
buy
of
the
opportunities
to
do
that.
So
I'm
gonna
call
the
question
all
those
in
favor
of
approving
item
a
on
the
agenda.
H
Thank
you
for
bailing
me
out
on
that.
One,
listen
to
me
a
bit
one
issue
with
at
that
time
it
was
sc,
eng
and
now
dominion
about
bringing
in
some
underground
electrification,
pretty
close
to
this
site
right
here
I
believe,
did
we
ever
get
that
worked
out?
I
know
there's
doran
and
those
would
be
happy.
That's.
H
B
L
M
M
But
happy
to
stop
for
any
questions,
just
as
an
overarching
comment
which
we've
shared
with
many
others
in
the
city,
including
the
mayor
over
time.
We're
obviously
really
excited
about
this
project
for
the
community
and
I'm,
obviously
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
navarro's
ben
and
kelly,
who
are
looking
forward
to
to
making
this
gift
and
upgrading
really
a
centerpiece
of
the
community
that
that
needs
some
improvement
and,
and
we
hope,
will
really
be
a
a
point
of
attraction
for
a
lot
of
both
athletes
and
performers.
M
Over
the
next
several
decades,
we've
been
working
for
quite
some
time
on
the
potential
renovation
of
the
stadium
I'll,
come
back
and
answer
any
questions
with
respect
to
the
budget.
But
this
gives
you
a
snapshot
of
what
we're
proposing
currently
based
on
the
the
drawings
that
we're
going
to
share
with
you.
M
The
overall
objective
is
really
three-fold
in
terms
of
the
renovation.
One
is
to
expand
the
seating
capacity
within
the
stadium,
we'll
show
you
where
we
plan
to
fill
in
the
corners
of
the
bowl
on
the
upper
deck
to
provide
more
seating.
Second,
is
really
to
improve
the
amenities
and
the
appearance
of
the
stadium
for
the
general
public.
M
We've
significantly
increased
the
restroom
food
and
beverage
and
sort
of
overall
flow
and
experience
for
the
facility
itself,
and
also
to
improve
the
facility
for
the
performers
themselves,
their
backup
house
experience,
which
will
enhance
our
ability
to
attract
premium
talent
not
only
for
the
tennis
tournament,
but
also
for
for
concerts
and
other
performances
that
we
would
expect
to
attract,
and
the
last
piece
is
to
really
improve
the
back
of
house
operations.
The
current
the
stadium
is
currently
constructed.
M
M
We're
our
goal
is
to
get
the
stadium
online
for
the
volvo
championship
in
april
of
2022
and
we're
working
diligently
to
to
meet
that
deadline,
even
though
it
feels
fairly
far
out,
and
hopefully
the
world
will
return
to
normal
by
then.
So
this
gives
you
a
flavor
for
what
the
stadium
will
look
like
and
I'll
flip
through
the
renderings
and
then
show
you
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
how
the
interior
of
the
stadium
lays
out
today.
The
stadium
really
lacks
a
primary
entrance.
M
If
you
think
about
the
orientation
here,
seven
farms
is
is
over
this
direction
and
excuse
me
actually
yeah
this
direction
and
running
down
here,
so
we'll
have
a
defined
primary
entrance
for
the
stadium.
This
will
be
a
ground
level.
Look
at
that
we're
also
going
to
add
some
skin
and
facade
to
the
stadium,
to
give
it
a
little
bit
more
character.
Today.
All
of
this
bowl
area
is
open.
M
M
This
will
house
all
of
the
back
back
office
operations,
everything
from
performer
and
athlete
facilities
on
the
on
the
the
ground
floor,
we'll
have
a
media
and
broadcast
level
on
the
mezzanine
level,
really
the
second
floor,
and
then
on
the
the
top
floor
will
be
a
club
level
for
premium
seating
and
view
of
the
the
stadium
itself
and
I'll
show
you
some
of
that
layout
and
some
more
in
a
moment.
This
would
be
facing
the
trails,
the
daniel
island
trails,
to
the
to
the
rear
of
the
the
facility.
M
So
this
is
sort
of
a
south
orientation
of
the
stadium.
If
you
will
again
the
back
of
house,
this
shows
you
the
loading
dock
entrance,
so
this
would
be
coming
in
from
seven
farms.
So
now
we
would
have
a
designated
loading
dock
entrance
that
we
don't
currently
have
allowing
much
easier
access
to
the
state
side
of
the
house
and
in
the
interval.
M
This
is
a
obviously
a
bird's
eye
view
looking
down
at
one
of
the
primary
editions.
This
is
the
canopy.
That's
that
we
plan
to
add
this
has
multiple
purposes,
one
of
which
will
be
protection
for
the
artists
during
performances,
but
also
a
functional
element
of
allowing
us
to
hang
speakers.
Lights
other
needs
from
those
from
the
performers
without
having
to
build
scaffolding
for
each
of
the
performances,
which
is
really
a
detraction
of
the
venue
today.
For
for
people
who
are
are
considering
them.
M
I
think
this
will
also
be
a
pretty
pretty
interesting
and
really
compelling
aesthetic
element
of
the
stadium.
One
of
the
primary
views
you
get
it
from
the
stadium
is
obviously
over
526,
as
you're
as
you're
coming
onto
daniel
island
or
leaving
the
island.
We've
worked
with
the
the
architects
to
try
to
incorporate
some
complimentary
elements
of
the
surrounding
area.
You'll
notice
that
these
these
sort
of
spikes
are
really
reflect.
M
What
are,
in
the
background,
the
cranes
from
the
port,
as
well
as
the
the
bridge
in
the
far
distance,
and
so
we
tried
to
to
really
complement
the
the
feel
for
the
area.
So
this
is
the
looking
back
up
at
the
canopy.
You
can
see
the
there's
a
mesh
system
up
here
to
allow
them
to
use
that,
and
this
is
the
front
view
of
the
stage
house
here
that
will
provide
the
club
level
on
the
third
floor
and
then
player
amenities,
et
cetera,
on
the
lower
levels.
C
D
M
So
this
gives
you
a
view
of
what
we
plan
to
do
the
interior
concourses
today,
you
know,
there's
very
little.
Concession
stands
very
limited
frankly,
restrooms
as
well
in
the
facility.
This
gives
you
a
look
of
the
interior
suites
that
will
will
now
be
facing
center
court.
Today
there
are
restrooms
that
really
fill
that
that
premium
real
estate
within
the
stadium
we've
moved
the
restrooms
to
the
exterior
of
the
stadium
out
here
and
so
we'll
have
premium
seatings
on
the
inside.
M
Obviously
a
color
palette
change
as
well
food
and
beverage
venues
that
will
be
scattered
around
the
stadium
to
provide
more
grab-and-go
access
for
patrons
that
are
more
common
in
the
modern
stadiums
that
you
see
today,
and
this
gives
you
a
quick
look
at
the
bowl
itself.
Once
we've
filled
in
the
upper
deck
seats,
this
is
looking
from
the
stage
house
up
on
the
club
level
back
obviously
over
center
court.
M
C
Is
a
word
for
I
think
we've
got
an
overall
view,
what
we're
talking
about
and
we've
got
other
items
on
the
agenda.
Unless
somebody
from
the
committee
has
a
specific
question
for
you
on
what's
proposed,
I
think
we
got
a
good
flavor
of
what
you
what
you're
talking
about.
I'm
sorry
to
cut
you
off
a
little
bit,
yeah.
C
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
boy.
I
I
don't
want
this
to
become
a
hackneyed
expression,
but
here
we
have
yet
another
true
win-win
win
situation
for
for
this
city
and
for
the
citizens
of
charleston
and
yes
for
the
navarro
family,
although
one
might
argue
due
to
their
extreme
generosity
that
they
they
we're
we're
a
bigger
winner
than
they
are.
But
I
know
their
heart
is
in
it
incredibly
to
make
such
an
such
an
investment
in
a
city
facility.
K
Is
this
almost
incredulous?
So
so
my
my
thanks
go
goes
out
to
ben
and
his
family
for
for
their
commitment
for
their
generosity
and
here's
the
thing
they
won't
do
anything
but
first
class,
that's
clear
and
you
you
see
it
in
the
design
of
what
they're
presenting
to
you
today
and
if
it
costs
a
little
extra.
K
K
I
did
want
to
also
point
out,
mr
chairman
and
my
committee
members
that
I
might
seem
a
little
nostalgic
here,
but
I
remember
25
years
ago,
when
I
was
working
for
the
city
of
charleston,
as
the
director
of
economic
development
and
mayor
riley
had
the
opportunity
to
bring
this
tournament
to
charleston
and
he
jumped
at
this
opportunity
because
he
knew
that
there
was
long-term
economic
benefit
to
having
this
facility
in
charleston.
Just
in
the
last
few
years,
they
continually
to
update
what
the
economic
impact
of
the
tournament
is.
K
K
The
city
has
the
ability
to
add
once
this
is
all
completed
to
add
a
dollar
a
ticket
so
we'll,
unlike
the
river
dogs,
we'll
be
able
to
help
sustain
our
own
maintenance
obligation
to
the
facility
through
through
that.
Sharing
of
that,
one
dollar
we'll
be
able
to
add
to
the
ticket,
so
I
I
fully
support
it
obviously,
and
I
think
it's
a
great
benefit
to
to
our
city
and
our
citizens.
C
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
mayor.
I
I
totally
agree
that
you
know
it
is
a
trite
phrase,
but
win-win
is
something
we
shouldn't
be
shy
of
using
whenever
a
plus
or
just
keep
going.
I
I
fully
support
the
changes
to
the
terms
the
minor
changes
to
the
terms
and
the
fact
that
we've
got
these
two
agreements
in
front
of
us
today
and
tend
to
vote.
A
Yes,
the
only
the
only
one
that
really
gives
me
great
pause
and
I
and
I'm
hoping
that
it's
just
because
it
needs
to
be,
you
know,
legally
accurate,
but
to
not
subject
the
city's
procurement
policy
for
for
minority
and
and
women-owned
businesses
right
now.
It's
just
a
goal
for
the
city.
The
city
has
its
own.
You
know
benchmark
of
a
20
percent
accomplishment
in
that
regard
of
hiring
minorities
and
and
women
businesses.
A
But
if
we
did
it's
not
like,
we
don't
build
the
project,
so
I
would
really
hope
that
if
it
can't
be
in
the
letter
of
the
of
the
agreement
that
it
certainly
is
in
the
strong
spirit
of
the
agreement
that
we
would
continue
to
want
to
hire
businesses
that
are
very
important
to
the
future
of
our
of
our
culture
and
our
economy.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
about
I'm
ford.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
I'm
gonna
pick
up
on
what
the
mayor
said
going
back
in
the
day.
Actually,
charlie
wade
was
chairman
of
commerce.
If
you
remember,
mr
men
and
family
circle
cup
used
to
be
a
long
time,
tennis
tournament
down
in
hilton
head,
and
they
were
getting
ready
to
leave
the
state
of
south
carolina
and
that's
when
charlieway
mayor
raleigh,
I
actually
chaired
jeddah
the
job
economics
development
authority,
which
works
in
conjunction
with
commerce.
H
C
C
What
I
understand
is
the
city
has
a
three
million
dollar
commitment
to
do:
improvements
on
the
property
folks,
like
stalewell
and
some
other
issues
that
we're
obligated
to
there's
not
a
time
frame
when
those
improvements
need
to
be
need
to
be
made
and-
and
that's
part
of
this
deal
as
we
roll
into
the
40
million
dollar
improvement
to
the
project
and,
of
course,
what
they
have
proposed.
A
40
million
improvement
to
this
stadium
is
going
to
be
massive,
impressive.
C
C
C
To
have
a
budget
another
meeting
tomorrow
on
our
budget,
we've
got
an
18
million
dollar
shortfall.
I
I
just
have
my
reservations
about
chipping
in
a
million
dollars
on
a
tennis
facility
when
we're
also
talking
about
raising
property
taxes.
Now
I
think
that
amy
wharton
in
the
the
mayors
also
work
some
magic
again,
god
bless
them
and
that
may
subside
a
good
bit,
but
I'm
just
I'm
just
being
frank
with
everybody.
I
just
see
spending
a
million
dollars
when
we're
trying
to
obtain
a
million
dollars
in
a
million
dollars
in.
C
I
think
the
mayor
and
councilmember
waring
had
success
with
their
earlier
meeting
this
afternoon
on
finding
some
other
monies
for
us.
But
that's
that's
my
reservation
and
I'm
just
telling
that
up
front
as
to
my
concerns
when
we're
asking
people
to
maybe
pay
more
property
taxes
at
the
same
time
than
this
million
dollars
coming
in
yes,
sir
customer
wearing,
let.
H
H
Even
if
this
one
happened,
and
obviously
with
the
private
public
combination
of
gracious
investment
by
mr
navarro
and
his
family,
that's
going
to
be
stimulative
to
the
economy.
So
when
those
construction
begins
out
there
and
the
spending
begins,
obviously
money's
going
to
be
pumped
back
into
local
economy,
which
eventually
some
of
that
finds
its
way
back
into
the
city's
coffers.
H
So
I
hear
you
on
that,
but
that's
the
obligation
that
we
can
and
afford,
because
it
makes
economic
sense
help
create
an
investment
that
is
gonna
benefit,
not
only
the
region,
but
the
country
I
mean
that's
an
international
tournament.
How
many
people
have
come
to
that
tournament
and
bought
a
house
in
the
charleston
area?
H
C
A
A
First
of
all,
it
will
generate
another
40
million
of
improvements
that
the
city
never
would
have
found
its
way
to
to
provide,
so
that,
in
itself
is,
is
a
huge
leverage
of
one
to
forty,
and
then
we
have
another,
two
years
or
three
years
to
put
in
the
extra
two
million
dollars
and
we're
in
the
driver's
seat
about
when
we
do
that.
So
I
do
feel
like
it's.
A
It's
a
very
lopsided
deal
that
benefits
the
city's
interest
long
term
without
having
to
have
an
inordinate
amount
of
skin
in
the
game
that
we
don't
that
we
can't
find
right
now
in
our
own
budget.
So
I
I
would
hope
that
we
would
just
you
know,
take
the
long
view
on
this
and
and
make
this
the
opportunity
that
it
will
be.
K
Mr
mayor
and
mr
chairman,
I'll
just
add
to
those
comments
that
there's
no
impact
to
the
general
fund
that
we
did
have
enough
in
our
hospitality
accommodations
budget
to
to
fund
our
contribution
to
the
general
fund
and
allow
this
payment
to
to
stand.
So
we,
in
fact
we
had
allocated
it
in
in
the
2019
2020
budget.
I'm
sorry
and
had
pulled
it
back,
but
anyway,
the
the
flow
of
making.
That
commitment
is
it's
frankly.
K
Preferred
that
we
do
it
over
a
period
of
time
rather
than
if
you
put
it
off
from
from
20
from
now
until
the
next
year,
you'd
have
to
come
up
with
two
or
three
million
dollars
all
at
one
time,
so
it
doesn't
impact
the
general
fund
and
it
does
spread
it
out.
I
I
think
it's
again.
I
think
it's
all
a
win-win
for
us.
C
Even
after
you
know,
constructions
begins
or
something
like
that,
just
to
lay
that
that
outlay
of
funds,
but
I
hear
y'all-
I
mean
I
and
I
respect
all
of
y'all's
comments
and
opinions
on
that,
and
I
certainly
do
recognize
that
the
city's
involvement
with
this
project
going
back
20-something
years,
spurred
that
with
this
project
and
with
bishop
england,
high
school
being
located
on
daniel
island,
was
the
stimulus
that
everyone
was
looking
for
for
the
development
of
daniel
island
and
we've
benefited
from
that.
It's
no
question
about
that.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
just
had
a
quick
question.
You
know
I
I
see
the
value
in
this.
I
see
the
the
leveraging
of
private
resources
here,
but
my
question
is
it's
one
thing
for
the
city
to
maintain
maintenance
responsibilities
under
the
current
you
know,
structure
that's
out
there,
but
when
you've
got
a
40
million
dollar
project
out
there,
what
what
are
going
to
be
our
long-term
maintenance
obligations?
E
You
know
because
would
seem
to
me
that
it
would
sort
of
scale
up
commensurate
with
that,
and
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
there
was
anything
built
into
this
agreement
that
would
sort
of
address
that
issue,
because,
as
we
all
know,
you
know
when
the
city
is
in
the
real
estate
business
it
it
has.
These
maintenance
issues
come
up
from
time
to
time.
We
see
that
with
the
joe,
and
I
just
wanted
to
see
how
that
issue
was
addressed
as
part
of
this
arrangement.
L
There's
not
going
to
be
too
much
changing
as
far
as
what
the
maintenance
obligations
are
for
each
party.
However,
what
is
built
in
is
that
the
two
million
dollars
that
the
city
will
contribute
three
years
after
completion
of
the
project,
will
be
kept
in
a
restricted
account
for
the
sole
purpose
of
capital,
repairs
for
the
future,
and
so
that
won't
actually
be
spent
on
the
construction
project,
but
will
be
reserved
for
the
future.
C
N
Sure
I
can
answer
that
calcium,
shade
we're
looking
at
an
additional
3
000
seats
per
for
the
for
concerts.
Put
it
in
reference.
I
would
say
this
would
mean
we'll
be
somewhere
between
a
hundred
and
forty
thousand
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
If
we
apply
that
dollar
per
ticket
as
we
as
we
sit
today,.
C
L
That's
right
and
the
you
know
the
the
three
million
dollars
just
comes
from
the
city's
estimate
of
what
the
repairs
that
we
are
obligated
to
make
would
cost
for
the
guard
rails
and
the
stairwells,
and
also
some
painting
that
needed
to
be
done
under
for
the
structure.
So
those
three
items
were
included
in
exhibit
b
of
the
2019
amendment,
and
so
that
was
the
city's
estimate
to
to
complete
those
repairs.
C
C
C
O
C
I'm
not
trying
to
volunteer
yet
the
next
one,
but
your
your
the
visual
just
popped
up
any
further
questions
or
discussions.
All
those
in
favor
say
seen
this
high
by
saying
aye,
the
oppose
the
eyes
have
it
item
e
is
approve
of
a
lease
agreement
with
the
scdot
to
establish
a
mass
release
of
certain
areas,
but
join
the
right
of
way
of
interstate
26,
highway,
17
and
highway
move.
C
I
I
This
agreement
really
opens
up
the
door
for
how
we
can
reactivate
the
underpass
area
of
I-26,
in
combination
with
our
1.6
mile
area
of
the
eventual
low
line,
just
just
to
kind
of
highlight
things
that
are
specific
in
there
and
what
leverage
it
gives
us
and
happy
to
take
any
specific
questions.
Chip
is
on
here,
too.
It
gets
into
the
legal
aspects,
but
one
it
allows
us
with
affordable
housing,
that's
adjacent
to
the
lease
agreement
area
to
have
exclusive
parking
and
not
just
public
parking.
I
I
We
were
careful
not
to
be
specific
in
the
document,
and
scdlt
was
in
agreeance
with
this,
so
even
with
how
we
build
up
to
the
peers
and
the
columns
gives
us
a
lot
of
flexibility
as
to
what
we
can
do
when
it
comes
to
recreation
when
it
comes
to
parking
capacity
and
otherwise,
three
the
ability
to
not
just
coordinate
with
the
district
office.
But
if
we
happen
to
get
into
an
impasse
with
the
district
office,
the
ability
to
go
directly
to
the
deputy
secretary
of
engineering,
with
anything
that
happens
from
a
design
perspective.
I
The
next
one,
just
just
some
specifics
around
drainage,
there's
some
abilities
to
improve
aspects
within
the
lease
area.
But
they
did
do
some
limitations
there
in
terms
of
benefits
to
private
parcels
and
what
agreements
would
be
there
and
then
the
ability
to
use
revenues.
So,
basically,
all
revenues
that
are
generated
from
the
lease
area
can
be
used
for
the
lease
area
for
all
the
different
aspects
of
outfit
construction
and
maintenance,
as
well
so
kind
of
just
giving
you
some
summary
around
that.
I
I
think
it's
going
to
be
amazing
that
we've
not
just
gotten
to
this
point,
but
what
what
abilities
will
allow
us
to
do
the
fact
that
there's
so
much
flexibility
within
this
document,
I
think,
is
a
benefit
to
us
in
the
short
term,
but
also
in
the
long
term
as
well.
So
take
any
questions
that
you
all
have.
A
A
The
fact
that
you've
gotten
you
know
your
your
counterparts
at
scdot
to
do
something
that
is
entrepreneurial
and
innovative
and
and
works
to
the
benefit
of
the
location
that
is
being
served.
I
mean,
I,
I
think
it's
a
remarkable
breakthrough
in
just
relationship
building.
I
know
all
of
the
time
you
spend
on
that
behind
the
scenes.
So
thank
you
for
hanging
in
there
with
all
of
your
colleagues
at
the
state
level
and
bringing
us
home,
something
that
is
a
really
cool
agreement.
Thanks.
I
C
Very
good
any
further
questions
comments,
we'll
call
the
question
all
those
in
favor
aye,
aye,
aye
aye.
Any
opposed
guys
have
it
last
item
on
agendas:
item
f,
which
is
a
annexation
in
a
28-91
doncaster
drive
in
district
10.,
I'm
going
for
approval.
No
second,
second:
okay,
although
any
further
discussion
we
need
to
have
on
this
annexation.
C
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
all
right
all
right,
all
right,
any
further
business
that
come
before
this
committee.
I
appreciate
everybody's
comments
and
concerns,
particularly
on
the
daniel
island
tennis
center.
We
will
be
adjourning
count
councilman
aware,
and
we
start
our
next
meeting.
Can
you
give
me
about
five
minutes
before
we
jump
into
the
other
one?
It.