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City of Charleston Committee on Real Estate 11/21/2022
B
All
right,
good
afternoon,
everybody,
it's
3,
30
Monday,
November,
21st
and
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
City
of
Charleston
committee
on
real
estate.
Let's
get
things
started
off
with
an
invocation
council
member
Greg.
Will
you
please
do
the
honors.
C
B
D
B
E
B
Aye
motion
passes
next
item.
Is
an
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
execute
a
Second
Amendment
to
the
amended
and
restated
lease
agreement
between
the
City
of
Charleston
and
the
Children's
Museum
of
the
Low
Country
and
I've
got
it's
Coco
here
with
me,
who
can
maybe
provide
a
brief
summary
of
what
what
we
have
in
front
of
us.
This.
A
This
afternoon,
thank
you,
Mr,
chair
good
afternoon,
everyone
on
the
committee,
so,
as
you
know,
we've
been
going
back
and
forth
with
the
Children's
Museum.
It
started
with
originally
coming
to
Council
in
real
estate,
with
a
potential
quick
claim,
deed
of
the
building
from
the
city
to
the
museum.
Council
sent
us
back
to
the
drawing
board,
so
to
speak,
to
work
out
some
alternatives
to
allow
them
the
opportunity
to
use
the
building
as
collateral
for
their
Renovations,
and
so
now
we
are
back
before
real
estate.
A
With
this
amendment
and
staff
would
recommend,
we
approve
this,
but
again
I'm
sure
Mr,
Murphy,
Mr
Roller
want
to
be
heard
as
well
right
now,
what's
before,
you
is
an
extension
of
this
lease
to
99
years
to
December
of
2021
with
a
10-year
option,
a
one-time
payment
of
1.2
million
dollars,
which
would
be
coming
from
the
hospitality
tax
revenue
and
then
an
annual
payment
of
fifty
thousand
dollars
labeled
as
a
facility
fee
for
maintenance
and
care
of
the
building
and
also,
in
addition
on
this,
would
be
the
mayor
and
two
members
of
council
who
would
serve
as
ex-officio
members.
A
We
did
present
this
to
the
museum
and
the
one
change
that
they
did
ask
for
and
want
to
advocate
for
today
is
instead
of
a
one-time
payment
of
1.2
million.
They
would
like
a
payment
of
1.2
million
for
three
years
so
each
year
for
three
years
it
would
be
a
payment
of
1.2
million,
so
we
felt
it
best
to
bring
this
to
Canadian
Council
for
discussion
and
consideration.
So
that's
where
we
are.
B
A
B
You
Miss
Copeland
any
questions
from
any
of
the
committee
members
so
far,
councilman
shade
so.
F
A
The
way
we
have
it
trained
right
now
is
that
50
000
would
be
budget
did
annually
as
a
what
we're
calling
a
facility
fund
which
we
provide
for
other
museums
across
the
peninsula
and
the
city,
and
the
1.2
million
would
be
a
one-time
contribution
toward
their
Renovations.
That
would
be
coming
out
of
the
hospitality
taxes
and
Amy,
of
course,
can
clarify
any
of
that
for
you.
If
you
have
follow-up
questions
so.
F
E
F
G
I
Thousand
and
fundraising,
this
is
a
relaunched
campaign
as
I
shared
last
time.
You
know
we,
we
did
shift
funds
from
our
Capital
campaign
project
during
the
pandemic,
in
an
effort
to
keep
the
museum
doors
open,
continuing
to
service
the
families
of
the
Low
Country
with
a
much
needed
service
during
that
time,
but
it
did
exhaust
some
of
our
campaign
funds
to
do
that
and
keep
our
doors
open.
I
We
are
back
in
capital
campaign
mode
have
raised
in
in
capital
contributions
over
300K
to
date
and
as
I've
shared
with
the
mayor
and
Rick,
we
recently
hired
a
new
executive
director
that
you
know
comes
with
development
and
fundraising.
Experience
really
focused
on
you
know,
contributing
to
the
sustainment
of
the
museum
through
the
robust
Capital
campaign,
foreign.
I
We
we
there
was
a
if
you
remember.
There
was
a
program
that
was
aimed
at
entertainment
venues.
It
was
the
the
only
program
that
we
could
qualify
for
as
a
501
and
unfortunately
because
of
a
qualification
criteria
that
that
you
needed
to
have
permanent
seating
in
the
venue.
We
did
not
qualify
for
the
entertainment
sector
pandemic
funds,
so
it
wasn't
for
lack
of
focus
and
trying,
but
we
didn't
receive
any
pandemic
funds.
I
G
Okay,
oh
you
know,
Church,
isn't
all
got
that
money.
You
know
I
happen
to
sit
on
Catholic
diocese's,
Finance
Council
and
they
got
asked
for
the
state
of
South
Carolina
and
they
got
two
rounds
of
funding.
I
remember
went
to
Senator
Scott,
put
put
it
in
for
churches
to
be
eligible
to
get
some
of
those
funding.
Now
you
know
the
piece
about
seats.
I,
don't
know
about
that.
I
believe
you
own.
It
just
said:
I'm
not
familiar
with
that
part.
Obviously,
the
Gail
y'all
got
several
rounds.
G
Obviously
they
have
seats
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
any
of
those
dolls
are
still
available,
and
maybe
we
can
call
on
some
allies
who
have
been
successful
and
maybe
assist
you
all
and
make
an
application
for
it.
Obviously,
keeping
the
employees
online
to
keep
it
open
to
provide
the
service
to
the
community.
Commend
you
for
all
of
that.
It
seems
like
that
stimulus
should
have
been
there
for
you
in
some
shape
or
fashion,
but
anyway,
thank
you.
B
A
Right
councilman.
C
Craig,
yes,
I
guess
the
first
question
I
have
pertains
to
our
city
budget.
So
do
we
have
the
1.2
million
is
asking
for
1.2
million
this
year,
but
also
1.2
next
year
and
the
year
after
that?
J
Please
thank
you.
We
asked
for
tourism
information
from
the
Children's
Museum
and
the
1.2
million
from
Hospitality
came
from
the
percentage
of
tourists
of
their
operation,
so
we
could
give
them
1.2
million
toward
their
the
renovation
project,
so
no,
we
would
not
be
able
to
do
that
on
an
annual
basis.
That
was
just
a
one,
our
one-time
contribution
to
their
renovation.
Okay,
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
would
be
an
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
museum
on
an
annual
basis
towards
their
maintenance
fund.
C
Okay
and
what's
on
the
agenda
today,
council
member
Appel,
is,
is
just
the
1.2.
The
initial
the
first
year,
1.2
and
I,
see
council
member
shade
not
shaken
his
head.
B
Yeah
the
lease
amendment
is
drafted
that
I
see
section
two
here
speaks
about
a
one
time:
just
a
one-time
payment,
just
a
one-time
payment
of
1.2,
okay.
C
C
Okay,
so
we're
just
moving
forward.
What
we're
talking
about
today
is
just
a
1.2
million
for
2023..
My
next
question
and
last
question:
sorry,
it
would
be
for
the
folks
from
the
Children's
Museum.
C
I
You
know
the
the
four
million
dollars
came
from
the
assessment
we
got
from.
If
we
were
owners
of
the
building
that
we
could
go,
leverage
that
you
know
the
the
total
project
is
north
of
5
million,
but
to
get
the
Building
completed,
we're
estimating
it
at
the
four
million
dollar
Mark
you
know,
based
on
the
last
time
we
got
this
quoted
by
Hood
construction.
I
Okay,
so
there
is
some
interior
projects
that
you
know
we
could
use
Capital
campaign
and
continue
donations
for,
but
you
know,
the
intent
of
this
project
is
to
move
the
stairs
from
the
Promenade
area
around
to
John
Street
and
then
do
you
know
some
health
and
safety
Renovations
and
then
a
much
needed
exterior
facelift
to
the
museum.
D
B
D
Right
so
I
guess
Edward
and
Mark
I
got
to
just
ask
this
question
and
don't
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
certainly
understand.
Y'all
would
like
as
much
participation
from
the
city
as
possible.
I
I
get
that
you
know
from
where
we
started
frankly.
I
think
this
offer
of
the
the
one-time,
1.2
million
and,
and
then
the
annual
ongoing
expenses
is,
is
very
reasonable
and
and
and
fair
from
the
city,
a
generous
in
my
in
my
humble
opinion,
but
what
what
what
I
gotta
get?
D
What
I
gotta
get
over
here
is
that
if,
if
we
were
to
do
this
and
and
then
we
extended
that
lease
all
the
way
out
in
100
years,
it
was
done
from
my
perspective
to
allow
you
to
be
able
to
borrow
that
money
that
you
needed
to
do
the
project
because
a
hundred
year
lease
you
know.
Well,
that's
that's
almost
like
owning
the
property
right.
D
I
know:
Banks,
look
at
leasehold
different
from
the
simple
ownership,
but
when
you
get
over
60
or
75
years,
you
know
you're,
definitely
well
past
the
the
useful
life
or
whatever
improvements
you're
going
to
make
in
the
first
place.
So
would
you
be
able
to
do
this
project
with
this?
With
this
offer?
I
guess
is
my
bottom
line
question.
H
Mr
Mayor
I
think
it
is
very
generous
and
we
appreciate
that
I
think
the
issue
with
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
requires
approval
each
year
for
our
for
Council,
for
it
to
make
it
happen,
and
we
don't
think
that
that's
going
to
be
necessarily
be
able
to
be
borrowed
against,
because
it's
not
in
stone,
you
guys
might
change
your
mind.
There
might
be
a
new
Council.
You
might
decide
that.
That's
not
what
council
wants
to
do.
H
I,
don't
believe
that
to
happen,
but
I
don't
think
that
that's
enough
for
a
bank
to
borrow
against
over
a
long-term
or
even
a
short-term
loan.
That's
that
piece.
I
think
that
the
issue
that
Mark
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
guys
understand
and
appreciate
where
we're
coming
from
is
that.
G
H
H
H
D
But,
but
could
you
get
the
project
done?
That
was
proposed
to
be
the
four
something
million
dollar
project
to
to
redo
the
stairs
and
the
exterior
and
all
the
stuff
I
know
it
won't
get
you
to
be
maybe
a
world-class
Museum,
but
can
we
at
least
I
mean
these?
Are
the
basic
improvements
we've
been
talking
about
now
for
about
three
years
and
I
mean?
If
if
this
doesn't
work
for
you,
then
then
it
almost
seems
to
me.
We
need
to
to
Scuttle
it
and
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
I
Mr
Mayor
I
just
support
Edward's
statement.
It
is
a
generous
offer
and
we've
certainly
come
a
long
way
and
thank
you
for
that
and
Julia
for
that
and
Rick
for
working
with
us.
Our
concern
is,
you
know
we
can't
we.
We
cannot
get
the
project
as
we
scoped
it
done
for
the
the
current
monies
on
the
table.
I
You
know
it's
it's
it's
possible
to.
You
know,
relook
the
scope
of
the
project,
but
you
know
it
at
a
point
of
making
a
commitment
here
to
get
that
project
done.
I
You
know
we
would
struggle
to
get
that
project
done
for
the
1.2
million,
which
is
really
why
we
we
had
focused
on
that
four
million
dollar
number,
and
you
know
the
the
three
years
times:
1.2
Got
Us,
close
to
that
four
million
dollars
where
we
could
come
back
and
say
make
the
exchange
commitment
that
we
would
get
that
project
done
right.
D
I
G
D
Had
a
suggestion
for
for
Mark
and
Edward
to
look
again
elsewhere,
I
mean
that
the
state
did
a
nice
gift
to
a
couple
of
projects
like
this
this
last
year
and
from
my
understanding
from
what
I've
heard
from
good
sources.
They're
gonna
have
another
excellent
year
and
and
have
some
resources
that
they
could
could
allocate
to
something
like
this
as
well
so
I'm,
just
questioning
whether
we
don't
try
to
get
all
the
money
together.
First,
you
know
the
again.
D
G
The
issues
are,
unfortunately,
I
think
come
out
when
you
all
first
presented
to
council
I,
don't
know
a
while
back.
You
know
the
reason
money
for
the
Children's
Museum.
G
Tell
me
the
difficulty
tell
me
some
of
the
hurdles
y'all
are
having
and
raising
money
for
children.
Tell
me
some
of
the
hurdles
in
the
place
that
you
have
have
y'all
gone
to
the
dominions
of
the
world
and
the
B
of
A's
of
the
world
and
att's
in
the
world.
That
kind
of
thing,
and
it
had
to
do
a
shout
out
or
the
Blue
Cross
and
Blue
Shields
of
the
world
on
the
state
level,
to
attempt
to
get
donations
for
this
project.
I
Wide
level
is,
you
know,
you're
you're,
competing
with
a
a
wide
range
of
other
entities
that
you
know
are
closer
to
the
state
capital
kind
of
sphere
of
influence.
So
you
know
we
have
struggled
on
the
state
level
to
get
support,
for
you
know
a
Charleston
entity.
You
know
we,
we
have
donations
for
them
all.
The
major
banks
in
town
Boeing
has
had
a
generous
donation,
and
you
know
we're
out
fundraising
constantly.
You
know
as
people
that
understand
fundraising
in
Charleston,
it's
a
small
community
with
a
lot
of
needs.
I
So
you
know
when
you
look
at
the
African-American
Museum
the
Gibbs.
You
know
all
the
other
things
that
compete
for
people's
contributions.
It's
a
difficult
town
to
raise
money
in,
and
you
know
the
the
capital
project.
The
exterior
of
the
building
is
not
the
only
thing
that
you
know
we.
We
need
to
fund
to
keep
this
operation
going.
We
have
a
constant
need
to
refresh
exhibits
to
make
sure
the
content
is
up
to
date
for
our
children.
You
know
this
is
not
just
a
play
institution,
it's
a
learning
institution.
I
So
you
know
we
have
a
staff
of
educators.
We
have
a
mobile
facility
that
gets
out
into
the
surrounding
communities
that
may
not
be
able
to
make
it
downtown
and
truly
service
the
the
larger
demographics
of
the
Charleston,
the
City
of
Charleston
community.
I
So
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
constant
fundraising
mechanism
to
try
to
do
everything
we
want
to
do.
You
know
this
exterior
building
project
we
think
is
obviously
overdue.
I
think
the
mayor
agrees
with
that.
This.
The
museum
needs
a
facelift.
It
needs
an
exterior
facelift
to
match
what
what
he's
trying
to
do.
You
know
what
the
community
is
trying
to
do
in
that
piece
of
the
city,
and
you
know,
complement
the
Promenade
project.
I
That
really
is
going
to
be
a
showcase
part
of
the
city
when
the
lower
line
gets
done.
So
a
long
answer,
councilman
wiring,
but
you
know
we
are
out
across
the
state,
raising
funds
attempting
to
raise
funds
and
all
those
pockets
of
entities
that
are
out
there.
I
For
example,
Boeing
the
Boeing
gift
is
focused
on
a
an
exhibit
that
you
know
matches
what,
how
Edward
you
can
it
matches
how
they
want
to
give
money
which.
H
Is
standardization
the
companies
like
Boeing
and
I
have
the
conversations
with
colleagues
at
Mercedes
and
Volvo
and
others.
They
want
to
give
money
towards
actual
programming,
teaching
kids,
how
to
program
and
design
and
3D
print
and
understand
why
planes
fly
sailboats,
sail
they're
interested
in
the
educational
piece
of
it,
not
necessarily
moving
bricks
from
one
side
to
the
other
and
fixing
external
things.
That's
that's
harder
to
raise
money
for
when
you
go
to.
You
know
companies
around
town
to
try
to
try
to
do
this
so.
E
H
In
addition
to
the
300
that
Mark's
talking
about
for
the
building,
it
just
goes
to
the
interior
part
of
the
educational
programming
and
exhibitory.
I
Mission
yeah
I
I,
don't
have
that
number,
but
I
can
get
it
for
you.
But
you
know
if
you
look
at
the
real
and
I
know,
you've
been
through
the
museum
and
other
council
members
have
been
through
the
museum.
You
know,
that's
where
rail,
the
rubber
meets
the
road
and
you
can
see
the
the
benefits
of
of
what
we're
doing,
but
I
don't
have
that
exact
number
for
you
today,
council.
H
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
that
we
defer
this
matter
and
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
a
more
detailed
plan
on
their
what
they
want
to
do
with
the
1.2
million
dollars.
F
How
do
you
plan
on
spinning
it
with
the
exact
proposals
are
and
I?
Just
don't
think
I
can
give
you
a
blank
check
of
50
000
for
the
next
hundred
years
without
having
some
idea
of
what
we're
doing
with
this.
So
I
would
recommend
that
and
I
and
I
know
we've
been
bouncing
this
back
and
forth
and
I'm
not
sure
who's
been
involved
in
in
the
planning
stages
of
all
of
this
and
this
proposal.
F
But
I
would
like
to
see
a
little
more
concrete
information,
because
I'm
going
to
vote
on
a
1.2
million
dollar
contribution
in
the
50
000
for
the
life
of
the
lease,
so
I
make
a
motion
to
affirm
this.
C
B
B
G
Thank
you
and
I
kind
of
think
with
the
city
coming
up
with
the
1.2
million
is
certainly
a
a
positive
step
forward.
It
may
not
be
what
you
all
want,
but
I
think
it
certainly
Shields
progress
that
you
all
can
go
back
to
your
board
with
councilman.
G
She
ate
I
I,
hear
you
on
that,
but
I'm
just
wondering
is
there
some
way
we
can
come
up
with
some
sort
of
hybrid
to
show
good
faith
on
the
part
of
the
city
that,
instead
of
just
deferring
deferring
and
sending
them
back,
come
back
again
but
I
think
we
could
do
what
we
could
afford
to
do
and
then,
hopefully
maybe
a
stakeholders,
I
I,
do
think
we
need
to
have
some
conversation,
some
sort
of
charette
around
this.
This
issue.
F
Yeah,
it
comes
from
aware,
I
think
that
you
know
to
their
point:
they
they
want
a
first-class
Children's,
Museum
and
I
want
them
to
have
a
first-class
Children's.
Museum
and
I
want
the
city
to
partner
with
them
and
help
them
along
that
that
way,
but
I
mean
honestly
I
when
I
read
this,
you
know
we
are
stewards
of
the
public
funds
and
if.
E
F
Gonna
vote
on
one
point:
teammate
I
want
to
see
something.
I
want
to
have
no
more
idea
of
what
we're
doing
with
the
money
how
it's
going
to
be
spent.
You
know
sort
of
it's
concerning
to
me
that
the
fundraising
efforts
and
I
hear
them.
I,
think
they're,
they're,
being
very
blunt
with
us
and
and
candid
with
us,
on
the
efforts
to
raise
money
on
this
thing
and
that
their
donors
are
interested.
F
I've
heard
this
before
the
donors
are
interested
in
not
the
brick
and
mortar
part,
they're
interested
in
other
components
of
this
we're
going
to
help
them
I
mean
Our
obligation
to
the
children's
museum
is
is
to
help
them.
But-
and
maybe
your
idea
was
charette
or
some
more
city
council
level,
discussions
with
them
on
the
ground
floor,
maybe
beneficial
and
I'm,
not
volunteering,
to
do
that.
But
I
I
want
to
help
these
guys
out.
F
I
want
to
help
the
museum
out,
but
I
I
just
can't
go
to
my
constituents
and
say:
oh
yeah,
I
just
gave
the
museum
1.2
million.
What's
it
for
well
on
some
plans,
I
got
coming
down
the
pike.
I
I
need
something
more
solidified
and
what
how
this
is
going
to
help
them
further
the
progress
on
getting
the
balance
of
that
that
money.
So
that's
why
I
want
to
deferred
to
get
more
more
answers.
So,
okay,
that's.
F
B
Understood
understood,
I
see
councilman
grad
with
stand
up.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
yeah
I
would
point
out
that
the
folks
from
the
Children's
Museum
have
presented
some
some
design
outlines
and
some
renderings
things
that
is
part
of
that
I
guess
that
was
maybe
six
months
ago
or
so
when
they
originally
came
to
us.
So
so
thank
you
all
for
that
I
mean
I,
think
we
we
have
a
good
understanding
of
what
that
project
is.
C
But
I
guess
you
know.
From
my
perspective,
you
know
1.2
feels
like
a
lot
of
money.
It
feels
very
generous,
and
so
you
know
I
I
would
vote
in
favor
of
that
I
do
think.
We
need
to
look
at
these
lease
terms,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
a
hundred
year
lease
either
for
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
C
So
you
know
I
I,
again
I
hate
to
send
these
guys
back
and
defer
it
again,
but
I
just
think
for
what
we're
talking
about,
and
you
know
what's
that
five
million
dollars
plus
the
1.2
I
mean
that's
a
that's
a
lot
of
money,
so
we
just
we
gotta
have
a
better
understanding
where
it's
going
as
Mr
as
councilman
Jade
said.
Thank
you.
B
D
B
D
Mr
chairman
I
I,
see
that
Mr
Rawl
raised
his
hand
and
I
think
it
would
be
polite
and
politics
to
recognize
him
if
count.
If
the
committee
is
willing.
H
E
H
To
do
we
want
to
come
in
here
and
you
guys
feel
good
about
what
we're
presenting
and
when
we
look
at
other
projects
that
have
that
have
seemed
to
work
in
the
budget.
When
you
look
at
the
Capital
Improvements
that
have
been
funded
for
the
Gibbs
in
the
aquarium,
what
are
they
showing?
That's
concrete
enough
for
you
guys
to
feel
comfortable,
because
that's
what
we
want
to
show
you
and
then
I
guess
to
the
comment
on
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
is.
H
We
are
totally
aligned
with
the
mayor
or
two
designees
from
Council
being
a
member
of
our
board.
There's
no
hiding
the
ball
here.
We
want
you
guys
on
our
board.
We
want
you
to
be
in
there
and
have
the
books
open
and
making
informed
decisions
with
us.
So
I
think
that
that
kind
of
dual
partnership
allows
you
guys
to
maybe
have
some
comfort
in
where
the
money's
going,
because
you're
going
to
be
right
there
with
us
every
step
of
the
way.
So
thank
you.
F
The
the
question
on
the
floor
is
the
Motions
of
Frosty.
The
mayor's
got
his
hand
up
yeah
Mr
Mayor,
please
just.
D
A
final
comment,
and
or
two
if
you
don't
mind
and
yeah
Edward
and
Mark
I,
think
having
the
the
board
membership
from
the
city.
If
we're
a
real
partner
makes
a
difference
in
the
long
run,
I've
seen
that
to
be
the
case
with
the
other
Cultural
Arts
organizations,
where
we
have
that
kind
of
participation
and
relationship.
D
In
other
words,
you
got
a
couple
of
council
members
and
a
mayor
that
that
that
is
more
up
to
speed
on
on
the
organization
and
what
y'all
are
doing
and
we
we
can
be
Advocates,
you
know
so
you
know
and
and
to
councilmember
Greg's
point
I
I!
Think
that's
right!
You
know
if
we
have
seen
details
of
what
y'all
want
to
do
on
the
specific
project,
and
we
we
saw
those
at
the
last
meeting
and
and
I
concur
with
him.
D
If,
if
our
1.2
million
dollars
would
would
get
you
over
the
hump
and
get
that
project
completed,
even
though
I
understand,
that's
not
everything
y'all
want
to
do.
I
think
that
would
be
a
real
positive
step
forward
and,
frankly,
it
would
be
kind
of
consistent
with
what
we've
done
with
the
other
organizations.
Take
the
Gibbs
Art
Gallery
when
they
did
a
major
renovation
of
the
building.
It
was
probably
a
10
or
12
million
dollar
lift
and
and
the
city
put
in
two
million
dollars.
D
So
we
we
put
in
something
like
20
percent
of
the
total
budget
and
and
so
we,
we
kind
of
thought.
This
was
comparable
to
that
situation
and
and
I
and
I
understand
y'all
I
hear
you
had
difficulty
on
the
capital
side
and
boy
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
this
may
sound
funny.
You
know
my
brother's
a
pediatrician
and
you
know
he
always
used
to
say
that
the
adult
medicine
gets
all
the
money
because
nobody's
looking
out
for
the
kids.
You
know
and
and
I
don't
know.
D
If
that
really
applies
here
or
not.
But
you
know
we
have
to
look
out
for
the
kids,
because
they're
not
here
lobbying
in
front
of
this
committee
and
city
council,
and
maybe
it
would
help
if
no
I'm
not
going
to
suggest
that.
But
anyway
you
get
my
drift.
D
But
if
we
could
work
out
something
that
was
that
moved
this
particular
project
along
specifically
and
I,
know
that
would
put
put
the
onus
back
on
y'all
to
to
commit
to
some
more
either
fundraising
or
borrowing
to
make
it
happen.
I
I'd
like
to
think
that's
a
path
forward.
G
G
Is
this
the
location,
a
world-class
Children's,
Museum
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
to
tug
at
you
but
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
better
location
and
maybe
a
you
know
a
longer
term
plan,
you
know
get
you
in
a
new
facility
that
you
don't
have
the
construct
constraints
of
a
historic
building
that
you
know
limits.
That's
always,
in
my
opinion,
always
going
to
be
a
limiting
Factor
on
the
museum
and
stakeholders
because
of
the
exactly
the
building
that
is
in
is
where
it's
located
have
y'all
had
any
conversations.
G
You
know
short
Opera
expansions
one
of
these
days.
I
guess
you
know
Golden
Pond
we'd
like
to
have
you
know
this.
H
Maybe
one
day
down
the
road
we
have
different
locations,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
any
cheaper
for
us
to
buy
land
and
put,
you
know,
sticks
in
the
ground
to
do
that
right
now
in
this
environment,
and
so
we
want
to
be
where
we
are
we're
committed
to
being
downtown
we're
committed
to
being
right
in
the
heart
of
where
a
lot
of
our
underserved
communities
are
right
there
near
where
a
lot
of
our
underserved
schools
are
and
right
there
for
people
coming
to
visit
this
great
town,
just
like
many
other
most
other
great
towns,
have
a
place
to
bring
their
kids
to
enjoy
a
little
time
with
their
family
so
that
they
don't
have
to.
G
G
They
would
talk
about
expansion,
expansion
on
the
aquarium
garage.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
when
you
come
out
the
garage,
the
little
land
piece,
if
you
go
into
the
aquarium,
you
come
out
the
garage
and
you're
walking
towards
the
aquarium,
a
little
piece
of
land.
That's
there,
many
some
of
you
I
mean
I,
know
that's
where
the
international
African-American
Museum
was
going
to
be
built
anyway.
Long
story,
short
Mr,
leather,
Senator,
Leatherman,
God,
bless
and
got
involved
in.
We
now
own
the
harbor,
where.
E
G
Today,
but
it
was
some
thinking,
expanding
the
garage
needs
to
be
expanded
and
in
the
basement,
not
in
the
basement,
but
the
first
floor
could
be
something
like
a
children's
museum.
For
example,
that's
what
I
was
it's
just.
You
know
just
several
conversations
that
really
was
a
non-starter,
but
you
know
if
you
had
the
Children's
Museum
over
there,
you
got
the
aquarium
over
there.
You
got
the
international
African-American
Museum
over
there.
That's
what
I
was
talking
about
long-term
plan,
but
anyway,
thank
you.
I
thought.
B
B
I
will
do
that.
Your
momentarily
I
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
this
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
Edward
and
Mark
appreciate
everything.
Y'all
are
doing
we're
gonna
get
there
I
think
we
all
want
the
Children's
Museum
to
succeed
and
I.
Don't
think
we
heard
a
lot
today
from
the
committee,
but.
G
B
The
things
I
didn't
I,
don't
think
we
heard
was
a
resounding
no
to
the
idea
of
a
1.2
million
dollar
contribution
to
this
effort.
I
think
we're
all
generally
on
board
with
that.
It's
just.
We
need
to
see
that
as
part
of
a
total
puzzle
to
get
there
and
I
think
that
perhaps
coming
out
of
this
meeting,
when
you
all
go
back
out
to
your
donors-
and
you
go
out
to
your
network,
you.
B
City
of
Charleston's
kicking
this
fundraising
drive
off
to
the
tune
of
1.2,
and
hopefully
that
provides
some
momentum
to
get
there.
So
when
you
all
come
back
to
us,
we
can.
We
can
knock
this
out
and
get
you
all
on
your
way
to
rehabbing
the
facility.
So
I
just
wanted
to
maybe
end
on
a
positive
unoptimistic
note
on
that
and,
without
all
being
said,
I'm
going
to
call
for
the
question
all
in
favor
of
deferring
the
matter.
Please
signify
by
saying.
B
Have
it
thank
you
all
again
and
let's
keep
at
this.
Okay.
B
Thank
you
all
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
approval
of
a
parking
lease
agreement
between
the
City
of
Charleston
and
the
iaam
for
the
back
surface
lot
at
the
Charleston
for
approval
moved.
B
Do
we
want
to
hear
a
brief
explanation
of
this
from
from
staff
just
for
the
record
who's
Matt
is
this?
Is
this
you
in
your
portfolio?
Yes,
sir.
K
It'll
be
mine,
thank
you.
So
this
is
just
the
city
standard
parking
agreement,
it's
for
10
years
between
the
city
and
the
IAM.
It
is
for
the
entirety
of
the
back
surface
Lots,
that
is
there
at
the
Maritime
Center
in
between
inspection,
War
side
and
Concord
Street,
it's
approximately
51
spaces.
K
It
would
be
managed
through
permits
by
the
IAM
and
enforced
by
the
city.
Like
any
other
surface
lot
in
the
city.
B
Understood
understood,
thank
you
for
that
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
tour
the
International
African-American
providing
and
it's
we
haven't
been
out
there
recently.
It's
amazing
how
much
progress
has
been
made
out
there,
so
this
is
very
exciting,
see
one
more
element
of
this
important
project
come
into
fruition.
Any
questions
for
staff
or
further
discussion.
G
G
Sometimes
we
get
Dusty
going
over
there
at
the
various
instruction
phases,
so
we
kind
of
lived
part
of
it
as
it
was
rising
up
and
I
know
anybody
who
went
over
there
certainly
can
feel
the
momentum
of
building
towards
opening
on
that.
So
I
really
appreciate
y'all,
taking
your
time
coming
through
and
doing
that,
I
want
to
make
that
comment.
Thank
you
absolutely.
B
It
was,
it
was
spectacular,
councilman,
I'm,
sorry,
mayor,
Tech,
alert.
D
So
Matt,
if
I,
could
ask
a
a
question
and
then
I
just
want
to
maybe
propose
something
going
forward
about
the
beautification
primarily,
but
the
the
number
nine
mentions
the
parking
lot
management,
but
that
seems
to
be
mostly
about
just
the
you
know,
decals
and
who
gets
to
park
there
and
that
kind
of
thing
is
there
any
agreement
as
to
the
maintenance
of
the
lot
I
know
we
just
put
it
and
use
better
usable
condition,
I
guess
in
preparation
of
this
lease,
but
over
the
10
years.
How
does
that
work.
K
So
it'll
be
handled
like
any
of
our
other
gravel
surface
Lots
the
Haygood
surface
lot
the
front
Maritime
Center
Lot
Columbus
spring,
which
we
we
just
did
we
review
them
quarterly.
We
include
maintenance
funding
through
our
parking
fund
with
AVM
to
have
them.
We
can
usually
coordinate
with
Public
Service
parking
management
company
acquires
the
gravel.
If
needed,
has
it
delivered,
Public
Service
comes
in
and
does
the
grading
and
filling
we
would
do
that
lot.
It
would
be
reviewed
and
taken
care
of
and
maintained
on
a
quarterly
basis,
like
any
other
gravel
lot
in
the
city.
K
D
So
One
Step
Beyond
that
that
probably
would
not
normally
be
included
like
those
other
Lots
is
it's
some
beautification
and
Landscaping.
You
know
we
we're
just
about
to
open
a
75
million
dollar
building
next
door.
We
paid
about
800
000
to
to
bury
the
utility
lines
right
in
front
of
the
the
parking
lot
for
for
the
Bus
drop
off
and
I
I
just
happened
to
run
into
Edmond
most
over
there.
D
The
other
day
when
I
was
in
Clark
when
I
was
coming
off
my
tour
and
they
are
going
to
try
to
just
plan
a
little
strip
of
grass
along
the
sidewalk.
But
of
course
they
said
we
have
no
budget
mayor
for
for
any
of
this,
and
and
and
it's
the
oak
trees
around.
The
perimeter
lot
are
pretty
mature
and
look
pretty
good,
so
so
I
think,
for
you
know
some
reasonable
budget.
D
We
could
do
a
little
more
planting,
so
just
some
Landscaping
of
some
shrubs,
some
flowers,
maybe
around
the
perimeter
of
the
lot
and
and
and
make
it
look
nicer.
We
have
such
a
terrific
investment
there
it.
It
looks
a
little
out
of
character
to
me,
of
course,
that
ugly
chain
link
fence
is
still
there,
but
that's
going
to
come
down
soon,
but
still
I
I
think
we
ought
to
beautify
it
I.
D
Just
wonder
if
maybe
we
could
take
the
first
four
or
five
months
worth
of
income
from
the
slot
and
allow
our
parks
department
have
or
the
museum
whoever
wants
to
take
it
on
to
do
a
little
beautification.
D
K
The
American,
a
law,
inspection
and
War
side
you're
correct
those
two
streets
which
make
up
half
the
lot.
There
are
some
very
mature
trees.
They
grow
right
next
to
the
road
they
go
under
the
sidewalk
and
actually
come
into
the
parking
lot.
So
there's
probably
not
a
whole
lot
of
room
there.
It's
also
a
very
shaded
area,
I'll,
be
curious
to
see
how
Parks
is
going
to
put
some
sod
in
there,
where
they
can.
K
Obviously,
along
the
other
side,
you
have
the
there's
a
sidewalk
and
the
apartment,
complex
condo,
so
there
isn't
really
any
space
to
do
any
Landscaping
there.
The
condos
have
some
there
along
Concord.
There
might
be
an
opportunity.
I
know
we're
going
to
saw
that
area.
There
is
a
new
Fresh
sidewalk
there.
That's
where
the
polls
used
to
be
that
you
reference,
which
are
now
underground,
where
the
curb
cut
is
for
tour
buses.
K
That
is
a
full
sun
area.
There
may
be
an
opportunity
there,
I
think.
The
main
concern
right
now
is
getting
a
sod
down
because
there's
kind
of
small
small
gray
that
goes
down
from
the
parking
lot
to
Concord
Street,
just
to
make
sure
that
there
isn't
any
washout
with
heavy
rain,
something
we
could
look
into.
There
may
be
an
opportunity
there,
but
I
think
it's
really
about
securing
the
ground
right
now.
Well,.
D
D
B
We
certainly
want
this
to
marry
well
with
the
new
Museum
next
door.
Any
further
discussion
from
the
committee
hearing-
none
I-
will
call
for
the
question
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
guys
have
it
all.
E
F
Of
annexations
under
c
little
I,
one
through
number,
nine
be
approved.
Mr
chairman.
B
B
Got
I
got
to
say,
I'm
happy
to
report,
we
gotta,
we
got,
let's
see
four
eight
and
we
got
nine
annexations
today
and
four
of
them
are
over
in
District
11.,
two
in
West
Ashley,
two
and
James
Island,
and
then
we've
got
District
9
well
represented,
we've
got
yeah,
remember,
councilman,
shade
and
one
over
in
District,
Five
and
Molly
is
burning
the
midnight
oil.
It
seems
doing
a
great
job.
So
thank.
B
And
well
good
deal
we'll
any
further
discussion
from
the
committee
hearing.
None
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye.
You
guys
have
it
anything
else
for
the
good
of
the
order.
We
adjourn
all
right,
see
everybody
I
believe.