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City of Charleston Committee on Real Estate 2/22/22
A
B
All
right
is
everybody
ready
all
right:
okay,
it
is
3
36
tuesday
february
22nd
2022
like
to
call
to
order
the
committee
on
real
estate.
If
we
could
have
our
newest
council
member
council
member
greg,
please
help
us
kick
off
the
festivities
with
an
invocation.
Please.
Thank
you
all.
C
Right,
please
bow
your
heads
lord.
In
proverbs,
you
teach
us
that
wisdom
is
better
than
jewels
and
that
all
we
may
desire
may
not
compare
with
her
pray
that
you
would
just
provide
us
wisdom
today
as
we
go
forth
and
making
decisions
that
would
better
the
citizens
of
our
city
that
we
love
in
your
name.
We
pray,
amen.
D
B
I
believe
you
were
correct.
We've
we've
made
it.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
First
item
on
the
agenda
is
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes
from
february
7
2022.
Do
I
hear
a
motion?
We
have
a
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second?
B
Second
all
right?
We
have
a
second
any
questions
all
in
favor.
Please
signify
your
support
by
saying
I
all
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
before
we
get
started.
Councilmember
waring
called
me
on
the
way
before
our
meeting
started
he's
on
his
way,
so
he'll
be
joining
us
here
shortly.
B
First,
just
an
update
for
those
following
at
home.
First
item
on
the
agenda
is
an
ordinance
to
authorize
the
mayor
to
execute
on
behalf
of
the
city,
elise,
between
the
city
of
charleston
and
the
marina
variety
store.
The
property
is
owned
by
the
city
of
charleston,
located
at
9
lockwood
drive.
I
have
frequented
this
establishment
many
times
over
the
years
and
it
is
a
great
place.
So,
ms
copeland,
please
take
it
away.
E
Thank
you
chairman,
so
just
some
key
terms
on
this
to
share
with
the
committee
prior
to
consideration.
The
initial
term
is
through
march,
30th,
2027
and
the
tenant
will
then
have
three
five-year
term
options
upon
request
and
then
it
terms
april,
30th
2042..
E
It's
going
to
be
5
000
a
month
in
rent,
which
I
believe
that's
what
they're
currently
paying
with
a
three
percent
annual
increase
noted
in
the
lease
and
then
just
so
you
know,
the
city
has
a
termination
without
cost
per
vision
in
there
with
120
days
notice.
B
F
Chairman,
yes,
just.
B
F
B
Certainly
and
mr
bleaker,
thank
you
so
much
for
attending
and
if
you'd
like
to
say
anything,
please
we'll
recognize
you
at
this
time.
A
To
the
microphone
please,
members
of
the
committee,
all
I
can
tell
you
is
that
I
have
represented
the
marina
variety
store,
which
has
been
a
tenant
of
the
city
since
they
built
their
building
at
the
city,
marina,
it's
not
their
building.
Now
it
belongs
to
the
city,
but
they
have
been
a
good
tenant,
always
paid
their
rent
and
created.
I'm
not
aware
of
any
trouble.
I
know
the
police
chief
says
it's
his
favorite
place
to
eat
lunch.
So
that's
all
I
can
tell
you.
B
Awesome,
it's
been
a
while,
since
I've
been
there,
this
is
making
me
hungry
and
maybe
I'll
check
it
out
later
on
this
week,
your
wife
won't.
Let
you
oh
there's
a
lot
of
things.
She
doesn't.
Let
me
do
all
right.
Any
questions.
Any
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
aye
all
opposed
hearing,
none
the
eyes
have
it.
B
All
right
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
request
for
the
mayor
to
execute
the
necessary
documents
for
the
purchase
of
11
huntington
avenue,
a
.08
acre
property,
which
includes
a
recently
renovated
building
of
3
316
total
square
feet
located
in
the
neck
area
of
the
city
for
one
million
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
subject
to
the
conditions
outlined
in
the
attached
agreement
of
purchase
and
sale,
and
I
believe
michael
johnson
will
be
given
the
presentation
on
this
one.
G
So,
as
stated
in
the
document
that
is
attached
to
your
packet,
we're
asking
approval
from
the
committee
of
real
estate
to
purchase
11
huntington
avenue.
This
property
is
directly
named
our
direct
neighbors
to
property.
We
currently
own
at
3,
5,
7
and
9
huntington
members
of
the
committee,
except
those
that
might
be
new,
may
recall.
You
approved
the
purchase
of
a
parcel
and
we
closed
on
it
last
year,
but
basically
that
parcel
is
available
to
us
to
build
permanent,
affordable
rental
housing.
G
We
are
currently
leasing
529
meeting
street,
where
our
what
we're
calling
the
navigation
center
is
located
and
we
have
been
there
since
2018
and
the
current
owner
is
asking
more
often
now
what
where,
where
we're
going
to
locate
and
how
quickly
we're
going
to
locate
and
so
we're
asking
for
acquisition
of
this
site
to
help
fulfill
the
need
of
that
hope
center.
G
Simply
because
we
are
planning
to
involve
a
number
of
community
partners
in
that
effort,
the
funding
for
the
acquisition
would
come
from
what
we
call
our
homeless
to
hope,
funds
or
funds
that
our
mayor's
commission
on
homelessness
and
affordable
housing
is
raising,
there's
a
resource
committee
that
works
every
year
to
provide
funds
for
this.
In
addition,
in
addition
to
that,
there
are
arpa
funds
that
you
all
have
approved.
That
would
go
towards
the
new
hope
center.
So
that's
the
background
on
this
particular
request.
G
Our
agreement
itself
lends
to
a
60-day
due
diligence
period.
We
had
begun
looking
at
this
area
anyway,
simply
because
of
the
property
acquisition
we
had
made
earlier
related
to
storm
water,
and
so
a
great
deal
of
the
due
diligence
has
been
done
here.
We
would
also
need
to
conduct
a
phase
one
environmental
assessment
at
the
site,
which
we
plan
to
do
should
council
should
real
estate
and
council
approve
it
this
evening
we
have
an
appraisal
attached
to
this
that
validates
the
1.3
million
dollar
request.
G
I
noticed
today
in
the
appraisal
that
the
that
mr
white
sent
that
it
had
a
page
referencing
1.2,
and
I
called
him
about
it.
Unfortunately,
he
was
not
able
to
participate
in
this
meeting
but
said
he
would
send
documentation
that
definitely
reflects
that.
He
supports
what
he
has
proposed
and
what
he
has
included
in
the
majority
of
the
appraisal,
which
is
that
this
property
is
valued
at
1.3
million.
I
would
also
share
with
real
estate
that
we
have
looked
and
have
been
looking
through
community
partners
for
other
locations.
G
We
have
been
unsuccessful
in
that
simply
because
either
excessive
rehab
were
needed
on
those
particular
sites
or
other
sites
have
proven
too
costly
or
not
in
an
area
where
we
thought
these,
the
folks
that
we're
going
to
assist
could
access
fairly
easily,
and
so
that
is
what
is
before
you
and
I'm
available
to
answer
questions.
Thank
you.
A
D
Chairman,
yes,
mr
mayor,
if
I
could
just
add
a
little
more
context,
the
lease
that
we
currently
enjoy
at
529
meeting
street
is
only
a
month-to-month
lease.
So,
although
we
haven't
been
given
notice,
I
have
been
in
discussions
with
the
owner
of
the
property,
and
I
think,
thankfully,
it's
not
anywhere
near
or
sure
thing,
but
he
is
exploring
the
possibility
of
putting
a
grocery
store
on
that
property
because
he
also
owns
the
the
abandoned
building
next
door.
D
Dry
cleaners
building
and
he's
got
a
pretty
sizeable
lot
there.
So
so
that
would
be
a
good
thing
for
the
4529
meeting
street
so
to
buy
an
existing
building
frankly
gives
us
the
flexibility
that
we
could
go
ahead,
basically
at
a
moment's
notice
and
move.
I
I
would
also
point
out
gianna
mentioned
that
we're
the
major
part
of
the
funding
for
this
purchase
would
come
from
donated
charitable
dollars
that
we've
been
raising
through
the
homeless
to
hope
fund
and
in
fact,
we
hadn't
received
the
cash
yet.
D
D
Thus,
those
properties
that
we
can
dedicate
to
affordable
housing
the
better
so
anyway,
I
would
recommend
approval.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
miss
shaw,
johnson
for
the
presentation.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
for
staff
councilman
shead,
not.
F
At
this
time,
but
I
think
as
a
portal
order,
we
ought
to
go
ahead
and
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
it,
and
I
got
some
discussion.
I
want
to
follow
up.
B
B
We've
got
a
second
any
discussion.
Yes,.
F
Sir,
so
I've
chatted
with
the
mayor
about
this
property
and
I
chatted
with
yonah
about
it
as
well
and
at
the
invitation
of
councilmember.
Wearing
this
morning
I
went
over
there
to
look
at
the
property
and
I've
got
some
reservations
about
it.
Quite
frankly,
it's
1.3
million
dollars.
I
looked
at
the
appraisal.
I
went
through
this
again
later
on
this
afternoon
to
dissect
it.
It's
councilman
waring
pointed
out
to
me
this
morning.
It's
but
right
up
to
the
greek
cemetery.
F
F
Around
that
time,
my
question
jonah
is:
is
it
necessary?
F
I
mean,
I
know,
property
values
have
gone
a
little
haywire
around
charleston
and
I'm
so
trying
to
understand
the
rhyming
reason
why
some
properties
are
worth
more
than
others,
and
I
know
location,
location
location
is
always
the
key
thing
here,
but
how
essential,
in
your
perspective,
is
having
this
building
located
next
to
what
we're
going
to
construct.
I
think
you
told
me
this
morning
about
50
to
55
units.
Yes
or
affordable.
Housing
will
be
constructed
on
the
sites
that
we
already
own
all
right.
G
Yes,
sir,
so
at
the
adjoining
property,
which
is
three
five,
seven
and
nine
huntington,
our
goal
is
to
build
a
minimum
of
55
units
of
rental
housing,
we're
in
the
process
working
with
planning
to
change
that
zoning
there.
So
we're
hopeful
that
we
get
more
so
we
do
not
have
to
have
our
hope
center
located
next
to
this
land
that
we've
already
acquired.
G
Certainly
it
is
convenient
to
have
it
there
because,
naturally,
part
of
providing
these
services
is
also
helping
to
house
individuals,
so
naturally
having
that
property
right
in
the
same
proximity
to
the
hope
center
would
be
extremely
helpful.
More
so
we
need
a
facility
to
locate
our
navigation
now
hope
center.
In
we
mentioned
529
meeting
street,
which
is
the
old
thomas
myers
head
start
building.
The
city
is
investing
money
in
that
annually
in
the
form
of
paying
the
property
taxes.
G
We
are
also
from
our
budget
putting
in
money
for
maintenance
purposes,
because
the
building
is
very
old,
and
so
we
would
ideally
like
to.
Although
the
proximity
of
that
building
is
excellent,
because
it's
right
on
meeting
street,
the
owner
does
not
want
to
sell
it
to
us
and
we
do
not
want
to
continue
investing
in
repairs
for
that
building.
G
For
that
purpose,
we
would
house
those
who
bring
their
services
in,
and
literally
the
persons
that
are
unsheltered
would
come
in
access
those
services
so
that
they
can
ideally
move
to
a
new
level
in
living
and
in
their
social
economic
status.
We
would
also
at
some
point,
would
like
to
add
on
to
this
building
so
that
we
have
a
proper
warming
center.
Should
we
need
it
in
the
months
when
it's
excessively
cold?
As
you
all
know,
we've
depended
depended
quite
a
bit
on
our
faith
partners
to
do
that.
G
We
upfitted
through
the
arthur
christopher
center.
A
year
ago
we
did
a
warming
center
there.
This
would
provide
a
permanent
facility
for
that
reflect
space
to
allow
that
to
allow
for
showers
for
men
and
women
and
then
a
kitchen,
an
expanded
kitchen.
The
current
building
has
a
kitchen,
but
it's
a
smaller
kitchen.
This
would
be
an
expanded
kitchen
because
oftentimes
through
our
partnerships,
folk
come
in
and
actually
conduct
feedings
and
that
sort
of
thing
for
those
folks
who
require
the
services
sure.
H
Thank
you,
ms
sean
johnson.
How
much
did
we
pay
for
the
joining
property.
H
H
I
think
we
can
apply
those
dollars
a
lot
better
to
me
and
I
had
a
conversation
over.
I
think
yesterday
about
it.
I
looked
at
the
comparables
and
three
of
the
four
comparables
properties
front
on
either
meeting
street
or
morrison
drive.
H
Now
anybody
who
visited
this
site
will
see
that
this
site
is
not
in
a
prime
location,
not
from
the
standpoint
of
an
office
building
being
sold,
we're
going
to
be
paying
pretty
close
to
400
a
square
foot
for
a
piece
of
property
that
was
renovated
for
somebody
else's
needs,
a
property
that
sold
in
june
25th,
I
believe
of
2019
for
six
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
H
So
what
we're
basically
saying
is
this
property
is
worth
100
has
grown
100
percent
in
value
in
less
than
three
years.
That's
not
on
the
main,
thorough
way
that
not
fit
the
criteria.
Location,
location,
location
so
is
not
to
get
into
the
appraisal
aspect,
but
3
000
square
feet.
That's
surrounded
on
three
sides
by
graveyards.
H
H
This
doesn't
fit
that
this
is
probably
10
or
less
than
10
percent
of
the
property
that
we
already
own,
and
when
I
look
at
the
comparables
one,
one
copper
bowl
that
they
use
is
1115
or
2019.
H
Now
we
bought
the
property
right
next
door
right
next
door
for
1.45
million,
and
that
wasn't
included,
and
we
closed
on
that.
Certainly,
when
are
we
closing
that
november
of
last
year,
something
later
december
of
last
year,
december
december
of
last
year,
so
our
sale
is
less
than
90
days
old,
right
next
door
and
for
whatever
reason,
they're
praying
believe
me
that's
up
to
their
opinion.
There's
no
exact
size
on
that,
but
the
appraiser
said
we're
not
going
to
use
that
compromise
now
being
a
numeric
guy
like
myself.
H
H
H
H
But
I
dare
say
that
if
either
one
of
us
would
buy
an
office
building,
we
would
not
spend
400
almost
400
a
square
foot
in
that
location
and
then
we're
going
to
have
to
come
back
and
renovate
it
for
our
needs,
which
will
add
to
that
cost.
That's
going
to
push
us
somewhere
between
five
and
six
hundred
dollars,
a
square
foot
on
a
building
that
was
built
in
1925
for
another
and
renovated
recently
for
another
purpose.
H
H
H
This
is
a
premium
that
we're
paying
for
this
property,
and
I
certainly
like
to
hear
the
phrasal
reasoning
for
not
using
a
comparable
on
the
same
street
that
shares
a
property
line,
that's
less
than
90
days
old.
H
H
H
For
these
values
to
go
as
far
out
as
they
went,
you
know.
Obviously
the
ila
building
is
one
of
the
buildings.
There
is
no
way
shape
and
form
are
comparable
for
this
three
thousand
square
foot-
approximately
three
thousand
square
foot
office
film,
the
ila
building
on
morrison-
drive
to
say
that
that's
a
comparable,
I
hate
to
say
it
as
one
person's
opinion.
It
seems
like
these
numbers
are
manufactured
and
our
job
is
to
be
to
have
due
diligence
over
other
people's
monies,
we're
stewards
over
other
people's
money.
H
So
we
over
spend
on
this
site.
It
leaves
less
money
to
do
the
major
objective
of
billing
on
the
site,
the
main
site
that
you
bought,
which
I
thought
was
a
great
value,
and
not
only
I
passed
unanimously.
So
everybody
thought
it
was
a
great
bank.
We
would
not
be
yet
striking
that
same
objective
by
allocating
1.3
million
on
this
side
and.
A
H
If
this
probably
is,
in
fact
worth
3.1.3
million,
then
we
shouldn't
take
it
off
the
tax
rules.
We
should
do
that.
We
should
not
take
it
off
of
the
tax
rules.
We
should
leave
it
on.
The
tax
rules
later
continue
to
pay
taxes
and
again
take
that
1.3
million
put
it
on
the
site
that
we
bought
to
go
to
and
if
we
need
to
incorporate
office
space
showers,
it
would
be
designed
expressly
for
that
purpose,
as
opposed
to
this
is
not
designed
for
that
purpose.
So,
there's.
G
I
hear
you
councilmember
warren
and
I
would
just
add,
based
on
my
knowledge
and
having
spoken
to
stuart
coleman,
who's,
the
office
manager,
office
operations,
person
and
with
our
our
chief
building
official.
The
owners
did
invest
about
1.3
million
dollars
in
this
building
in
2020,
so
that
very
well
could
also
contribute
to
the
value.
I'm
not
an
appraiser
not
going
to
pretend
to
be,
but
in
light
of
what
it
offers
and
what
our
current
need
is.
That
is
partially
our
interest,
and
I
would
say
to
us
for
purposes
of
clarity.
G
The
funding
that
is
being
directed
to
this
could
not
be
for
the
affordable
housing.
Simply
because
this
committee
that
has
been
established
is
raising
money
specifically
for
the
hope
center
and
as
we
looked
at
and
discussed
the
actual
building
of
the
rental
units,
we
were
advised
that
it
was
probably
best
if
we
kept
these
two
issues
or
two
matters
separate
from
the
standpoint
of
actually
housing
the
center
in
the
unit
in
the
the
same
building
as
the
units
themselves,
because
we
did
explore
that
option.
Yeah.
H
I
understand
what
they
may
have
paid
for
it
yeah,
but
for
our
purposes
that's
the
end
of
that
they
could
have
put
2
billion
in
that
doesn't
mean
it's
worth
two
billion
dollars
absolutely
and
as
far
as
we
again,
we
haven't
designed
a
building.
So
we
can
incorporate
the
hope
centers
this
square
footage
in
the
building.
It
would
be
the
hope
center
as
you
envision
it,
because
we
can
go
multi
stories
in
that
that
location.
H
Stories
in
that
location,
so
we
did
a
girl
yard.
It
has
a
world
class
performing
arts
and
has
a
building
services
park
where
we
have
contractors
coming
in
with
boots
on,
and
our
planet
and
zona
department,
all
in
one
building.
So
to
say
that
we
can't
put
a.
I
think
it
would
be
very
diff,
very
difficult
to
say
that
we
cannot
put
a
multi-use
in
what
we
play
in
the
bills.
B
Thank
you,
councilman
waring.
Does
anybody
else
have
any
questions
comments
mayor,
mayor
tuckerberg,
please.
B
F
H
B
Mr
chairman,
mr
mayor
and
then
I
think
you
still
have
your
on
emotional
floor.
D
Yeah
a
few
comments
about
the
building
and
you
all
have
a
little
diagram
that
that
provided
so
the
building
here
on
the
corner
is
the
one
in
question.
Even
though
it's
not
a
exact
picture,
it's
a
drawing,
and
so
the
little
building
next
to
it
would
be
an
addition
as
as
gianna
mentioned.
So
I
I
want
to
point
that
out,
because
we
were
not
planning
on
any
substantial
renovation
whatsoever
to
this
building.
D
We
need
the
quote
office
type
space
and
we
believe
that
building
is
suitable
for
that
function
of
the
hope
center.
So
the
additional
building
would
be
for
things
like
showers,
bathroom
extra
bathroom
capacity,
a
laundry
of
capacity,
some
flex
space
and
in
the
event
we
needed
to
have
a
warming
shelter
there
from
time
to
time
and
and
and
and
honestly,
those
kinds
of
functions
are
a
little
different
from
the
daytime
office
use.
So
I
I
mean
it.
D
D
So
I
mentioned
that
that
that
we
are
buying
this
building
and
property
are
proposing
to
buy
it
for
the
building
and
not
so
much
for
the
land,
and
I
I
hear
gentlemen
wearing
certainly
make
some
good
points,
but
the
I,
I
think,
maybe
the
afraid,
I'm
not
an
appraiser,
but
he
he
chose
properties
that
had
a
building
on
them
rather
than
just
land
costs.
D
I
I
guess
you
can
calculate
the
land
cost
and
then
describe
it
to
the
size
of
the
property
and
all
like
that,
but
we're
we're
proposing
to
buy
this
building
really
for
the
for
the
building
and
its
use,
and
it
was
fully
renovated
a
few
years
ago,
and
so
I
know
they
might
have
bought
it
at
one
price,
but
they
put
a
bunch
more
money
into
it.
I
know
believe
it
or
not.
I
guess,
for
full
disclosure.
D
I
was
in
the
building
about
10
years
ago,
mark
smith
used
to
own
it.
Just
so
there's
not
any.
You
know
associations
with
this
prior
use.
It
was
a
crematorium
of
of
all
things
and
he
used
it
in
his.
You
know
funeral
business,
but
all
that
had
to
be
removed,
office
space,
modern
office
space
was
put
in
it.
You
know
a
considerable
upfit
was
done.
We
don't
need
to
renovate
it
further,
we'll
be
able
to
use
it.
Basically,
as
is
we,
we
do
have
additional
requirements.
D
There
wouldn't
have
been
room
in
this
building
to
add
all
those
other
things.
So
that's
why
we
would
propose
to
build
a
building
next
to
it.
I'd
certainly
reviewed
the
appraiser
appraisal
and-
and
I
understand
our
appraiser
stands
by
it
from
what
I
understand
I
wasn't
involved.
Giana
was
directly
with
the
negotiations
and,
and
most
sellers
like
to
get
the
most
they
can
when
they're
selling
something
right.
D
So
in
fact
they
had
asked
for
for
a
higher
price
before
the
appraisal
was
done
and
we
we
apparently
went
back
to
him
and
said:
hey
look.
I
got
this
appraisal,
I
can't
pay
you
what
you're
asking
for
the
property
so
so
there
was
some
negotiation
that
occurred
already.
I
I
wanted
to
share
that
with
you
and
and
the
the
about
the
value
of
this
property
on
the
tax
roll.
D
I
I
gotta,
I
gotta
believe
that
the
difference
in
value
of
where
we
are
right
now,
once
we
move
and
that
property
gets
redeveloped,
is,
is
going
to
be
some
multiple
factor
of
value
of
this
property.
So
in
a
in
a
way,
the
sooner
we
can
get
out
of
529
meeting
street
to
facilitate
its
redevelopment,
we're
going
to
end
up
adding
more
to
the
tax
roll
than
we
got
on
the
books
right
now
combined.
So
anyway,
I
just
thought:
I'd
share
those
points
how
how
long?
D
60-Day
built-in
right
so
I
mean
there
would
be
time
to
get
a
second
opinion
on
the
appraisal
if
it
were
the
will
of
counsel,
but
I
all
I
know
about
real
estate
values
in
charleston
right
now.
They
almost
go
up
every
day.
You
know
the
the
property,
it
is
an
odd
location,
councilmember
wearing,
but
you
know
that's
one
of
the
things
we
liked
about
huntington
for
this
use
was
that
it
was.
It
wasn't
in
everybody's
face,
so
to
speak,
or
at
least
not
in
the
face
of
folks.
D
That
would
matter
too
much
so
and
and
generally
speaking,
a
property
is
a
little
more
valuable
to
its
neighbor
than
than
to
somebody
else.
D
So
you
might,
I
don't
think
we're
paying
a
premium
because
of
that
reason
we're
paying
the
appraised
value
some,
but
but
normally,
if
you
own
a
pizza
property-
and
you
want
to
have
the
flexibility
to
expand
or
whatever
you
want
to
buy
your
neighbor's
property
right
or
you'd
want
your
neighbor
to
offer
it
to
you
first
rather
than
somebody
else
so
anyway,
you
add
all
that
up
together
and
I
respectfully
request.
We
approve
this
and
and
move
forward.
If
you
want
to
double
check
their
appraised
value
with
another
appraiser,
that's
fine.
G
Councilmember
appel.
I
would
also
add
that
I
spoke
with
bridge
commercial,
who
are
also
realtors,
and
they
are
going
to
work
with
us
on
looking
at
acquisition
of
sites
just
to
confirm
that
we
were
not
paying
excess
if
you
will
for
this
site,
and
they
indicated
that,
based
on
the
values
in
our
community
right
now,
this
was
in
line
in
light
of
what
we're
going
to
use
it
for,
and
so
I
did
speak
with
pellegrino
with
bridge
commercial
earlier
today.
G
Regarding
that,
and
I
would
just
also
add
for
councilmember
waring
I
I
heard
you
say
we
can
certainly
include
it
in
the
building
with
the
housing
and
we
were
contemplating
that
at
the
beginning,
and
we
could
do
that.
It
was
just
recommended
that
we
didn't
do
that
just
for
purposes
of
what
we
want
to
achieve
there
as
well.
H
H
We
already
own
the
property
that
you
show
building
the
new
building,
though
sorry,
that's
correct,
that's
right!
We
already
own
that.
Yes,.
D
H
We've
already
acquired
that
track.
We
could
take
the
1.3
million
for
officers
and
immediately
start
building.
As
soon
as
we
got
planned.
The
showers
the
warm
center
again
gets
us
to
that
objective,
even
quicker.
We
can
offer
someplace
else.
The
warming
shelter
the
showers
to
help
the
people
again,
who
are
transitioning
from
the
streets,
hopefully
to
better
quality
of
life.
H
It
ramps
us
up
out
it
ramps
up
our
ability
to
get
to
it.
Your
objective
is
sooner
not
because
we
don't
have
a
bucket
of
money.
We
don't
have
all
the
money
to
start
right
now.
H
D
I
would
respectfully
reply
that
you
know
we
buy
this
building
and
the
tenant
moves
out.
We
can
take
possession
right
away
a
thing
like
showers
and
bathrooms
could
temporarily
be
handled
by
trailers.
In
fact,
catholic
charities
is
looking
to
partner
with
us
to
provide
those
if,
according
to
gianna
and
if,
if
we're
starting
from
scratch
of
design,
build
and
and
procure
that
from
from
scratch,
I
you
know
we'd
be
18
months
out
to
build
a
new
building.
I
think
explain
to
me
what
is
the.
G
To
so,
there's
no
rush,
but
we
do
need
office
space
for
the
for
our
hope,
center
councilmember
wearing
right
now
we're
in
a
lease
space
month
to
month
the
owner
has
been
gracious
since
2018.
G
he's
been
very
gracious,
but
more
often
his
representative
is
calling
me
to
find
out
where
we
are
going
to
locate
those
places
that
we
looked
at
in
the
past
two
years,
a
church
that
is
on
rutledge
that
is
not
being
used.
G
Council
member
county,
councilmember,
kylon
middleton
looked
at
that
for
us.
We
thought
that
was
an
opportunity
to
renovate
it
turned
out
that
we
could
not
use
that
and
there
have
been
some
other
facilities,
one
in
the
neck
area
that
we
looked
at
as
well
that
we
thought
could
be
utilized
for
this.
The
renovation
of
that
would
have
been
extremely
costly
as
well,
and
so
we
need
a
place
to
locate
before
we're
asked
to
get
out
and
we
don't
have
a
place
to
put
the
center.
G
B
All
right,
thank
you.
Michelle
johnson,
councilman
shead
had
his
hand
up.
F
Well,
the
cash
flow
board.
Has
I've
been
talking
the
floor
I'll?
Let
him
go
ahead
of
me.
Now
come
back
to
me.
C
Quick
point
of
information:
do
we
have
the
details
of
the
transactions
on
three
five,
seven
and
nine
huntington
avenue?
I
know
they
weren't
included
in
the
comparables
in
the
appraisal
report.
But
do
we
have
a
rough
idea
and
then
second
part
of
that
question
would
be
what
was
the
condition
of
those
properties?
Were
they,
I
assume
not
suitable
for
a
renovation?
G
G
Currently,
so
we
looked
at
that
as
well
as
an
opportunity
to
renovate
one
of
those
as
a
temporary
location,
but
we
were
discouraged
from
doing
that,
and
so
there
were
four
of
those
houses.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
paid
a
little
over
1.4
million,
and
the
value
of
that
site
was
about
1.625.
G
B
You
good
thank
you
all
right,
councilman
shane.
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
What
you
know,
one
thing
that
you
can't
this
is
that
we're
all
very
much
in
tune
with
affordable
housing
and
this
councilman.
What
was
talking
about
we're
stewards
of
public
funds
and
I
think,
we're
all
trying
to
be
very
cautious
and
conservative
on
how
we're
spending
the
limited
resources
we
have
on
affordable
housing,
but
julia.
If
I
could
ask
you
a
question,
ms
copeland,
it
goes
back
to
what
jonah
mentioned
earlier.
F
So,
under
the
terms
of
the
contract,
we
have
a
due
diligence
period
of
how
many
days
are
you
60
days
now?
Did
that
give
us
the
opportunity
to
then
reevaluate
and-
and
we
wanted
to
get
a
second
appraiser
and
give
us
opportunity
to
then
maybe
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
renegotiate
this
price.
If
we
thought
we
can
get
a
better
deal.
H
E
H
H
You
know
I
know
who
does
business.
You
did
ask
a
good
question:
councilman
greg.
C
I
just
did
doing
the
quick
math
here
so
if
we
just
said
the
the
0.08
acres
and
we
we
think
property
here
is
a
million
dollars
an
acre,
give
or
take
based
on
the
previous
huntington
avenue
property
purchases,
we're
at
thousand
dollars
for
the
land
value
and
thirty
one
hundred
square
feet
four
hundred
dollars
a
square
foot,
we're
we're
pretty
close.
So
I
I
think
if
we
were
to,
we
were
to
start
from
scratch.
We're
gonna
end
up
in
the
ballpark
of
of
this
1.3
million
dollars.
C
It
seems
like
a
lot
of
money,
but
I
think,
given
that
it's
there
and
ready,
perhaps
this
is
the
best
use
of
these
funds.
I
didn't
think
I
would
be
saying
that.
C
D
It's
not
a
big
delta,
there
might
be
a
delta,
a
council
member,
I
admit,
but
there's
not
a
big
delta
and
the
appraiser
believes
it's
worth
that
and
it's
next
to
our
existing
property.
So
it
I
mean
you
add
it
all
up
together:
it's
not
a
bad
deal.
The
reality.
H
Mr
miller,
none
of
us
are
afraid,
but
you
got
a
ton
of
experience
in
real
estate.
So
do
I
an
appraiser
with
this
experience
to
not
consider
the
adjoining
property
that
was
sold
less
than
90
days
ago?
That's
abhorrent!
That's
abhorrent!
D
H
Well,
we
had
four
houses
there.
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
houses
downtown
that
had
lead
base
and
asbestos
it's
beautiful
today.
Those
were
some
iconic
houses,
if
not
in
the
shadows
of
charleston
historic
charleston
would
have
been
down
there
saying
you
can't
tear
those
houses
down.
You
know
that,
and
I
know
that
okay,
the
quickness
that
we
got
to
tear
those
houses
down
was
surprising
even
to
me
did
that
contract
come
through
council
to
tear
it
down?
H
Yes,
it
did.
I
have
to
go
back
and
check,
I
didn't
realize
we
would
demolish
those
houses.
Those
are
some
very
iconic
houses,
so
they're
going
pretty
quick.
So
when
we
bought
the
property
councilmember
gray,
they
had
four
houses
on
them.
That
probably
came
close
to
having
six
thousand
square
feet
needing
just
need
repair,
of
course,
needing
in
need
of
repair.
H
B
So,
to
kind
of
reset
a
little
bit,
I
think
councilman
waring's
motion
to
defer
is
still
on
the
floor.
I
forget
I.
D
A
B
Okay,
so
councilman
greg.
Second,
the
motion
to
defer-
I
guess
we'll
now
call
the
roll
on
that
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
defer
please
signify
by
saying
hi.
B
Appear
to
have
it,
I
believe
there
was
a
motion
to
approve
on
the
floor
prior.
H
Let
me
say
this
you're
staying
out,
but
you're
esteemed,
but
the
truth
about
about.
Mr
mayor,
you
have
a
conflict.
You
can't
even
debate
this
issue.
Isn't
that
correct?
Don't
you
have
a
conflict?
I
do
not.
You
told
me
yesterday
you
had
to
come.
No.
B
All
right,
so
the
motion
all
right,
so
the
motion
to
defer
failed.
The
motion
on
the
floor
is
to
approve
the
object.
This
item
at
a
committee
to
full
council
during
ways
and
means
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
hi
hi,
all
opposed,
nay,
there's
one
nay,
the
eyes
have
it
and
mr.
D
Chairman
I
I
would
like
I'm
sorry
if
there
was
any
misunderstanding.
What
what
I
explained
to
you
on
the
phone
was
that
my
son
is
a
tenant
in
the
building,
so
he
will
be
inconvenienced
by
having
to
move
if
they
sell
this
property,
but
he
has
no
ownership
interest
in
the
building
and
hence
there's
no
personal
conflict.
He
he
does
not
benefit
from
selling
the
business
matter
of
fact,
he'll
be
inconvenienced.
I
have
no
personal
conflict,
so
you.
H
B
All
right
so
moving
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
we
have
one
annexation
over
in
district
five,
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
approve.
We
have
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
all
opposed
hearing,
none
the
eyes
have
it,
and
with
that
we
have
concluded
our
real
estate
committee
meeting
and
we
have
a
few
minutes
before
ways
and
means
thanks
for
everyone's
time,
and
thank
you
for
the
staff
for
the
explanation
of
the
agenda
items
today.
Thank
you.