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City of Charleston Committee on Recreation 7/13/21
A
B
B
A
D
E
I
think
chairperson
gregory,
this
is
lori.
If
you'd
like
for
me
to
take
this
one,
I
will
yes,
sir.
We
councilmember
sacrament.
We
received
a
phone
call
from
a
community
member
tony
lewis
several
months
ago
at
our
office,
and
he
had
been
talking
to
her
her
representative
and
some
folks
that
are
really
on
her
team,
so
to
say
for
training
and
everything,
and
they
they
knew
about
the
idea
and
were
really
in
favor
of
it.
But
she
did
not
know
it
was
a
secret.
E
So
we
went
ahead
and
take
took
it
to
the
this
citizen
recreation
committee.
They
passed
it
unanimously
at
their
last
meeting,
and
so
they
knew
it
was
coming
forward.
The
track,
obviously,
is
not
going
to
be
ready
at
the
same
time
as
the
football
field,
but
it
will
be.
It
will
be
done
several
months
after
that
and
now
her
team
does
know
that
it
is
going
to
be
named
in
her
honor
and
we
are
trying
to
work
with
her
rep
to
see
if
she
can
join
us
next
tuesday.
E
D
Thank
you
lori.
I
think,
if
you
all
can
just
indulge
me
for
one
minute.
I
the
reason
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
is:
I
got
a
chance
to
meet
raven
in
my
previous
role
with
the
district
and
if
you
all
could
see
she,
she
was
a
dynamo
and
I
was
working
the
communications
office
I
got
wind
of
her
story
met
with
her
before
she
graduated
burke.
D
D
So
when
she
does
confirm,
I
would
love
to
be-
and
I
think
I
will
be
in
attendance
to
that,
but
I
just
want
to
say
hi
to
her
and
I
think
we
should
recognize
her
at
a
future
council
meeting
as
well.
I
mean
she
is
a
true
remarkable
story
and
star
coming
from
nothing
in
charleston
learning
how
to
do
shot
put
in
the
parking
lot
over
at
burke.
So
remarkable
story.
C
C
Stadiums
have
names,
fields
have
names
where
all
of
our
stakeholders
are
investing
a
lot
in
this
track
and
honestly,
it
probably
wouldn't
be
possible
without
contributions
that
raven
has
made.
Who
knows?
Councilmember
saccharin,
maybe
we'll
find
the
next
olympian
at
burke,
high
school
and
instead
of
having
to
throw
a
shot
put
in
the
parking
lot
they'll
be
able
to
utilize
this
amazing
track.
F
F
A
A
F
A
F
And-
and
that
mostly
is
just
to
thank
pat
hoagland
and
tom
o'rourke
for
what
really
has
been
an
amazing
journey
of
sorts,
an
amazing
job
to
produce
this
master
plan
for
the
city
of
charleston.
It
was
long
needed.
I
must
tell
you
the
the
day
after
I
walked
in
the
door
first
time
I
really
sat
down
with
jason
kronsberg
and
laurie
yarber
or
both
they
said
mayor.
We
really
need
a
a
real
analysis
of
where
we
are.
F
What
we've
got
what's
needed
to
think
about
the
long
term,
and
admittedly,
it
took
us
a
few
years
to
get
around
to
getting
tom
and
pat
hired
up
to
do
this,
but
but
they've
done
a
remarkable
job
and
and
to
think
that
they
did
this
during
covet
and
so
much
of
it
involved
public
engagement.
So
they
didn't
rely
on
the
old-fashioned
way
of
you
know,
putting
up
the
flag
having
a
meeting
and
expecting
folks
to
can't
come
to
them.
F
It's
you
know
beyond
keeping
people
safe,
it's
the
one
thing
we
do,
that
really
adds
to
our
citizens,
quality
of
life
and-
and
I
think
it
rings
true
loud
and
clear-
in
what
you're
about
to
hear.
So
without
further
ado.
I
just
want
to
thank
pat
and
tom
for
their
incredible
efforts,
along
with,
along
with
jason
and
laurie.
A
A
G
Yes,
yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry
for
that
and
pat
you
can
start,
but-
and
I
know
I'm
out
of
order,
but
I
love
raven
saunders.
I've
been
coaching
track
in
this
town
for
30
years
still
do.
I
was
at
west
houston,
high
school
last
year
and
that
woman,
by
the
time
she
was
a
senior,
she
was
better
than
everybody.
G
She
spent
more
time
helping
other
athletes
to
learn
the
the
event
of
shot
put
than
she
did
working
on
her
own
game
and
bishop
england.
High
school
actually
helped
sponsor
her
in
her
first
her
first
journey,
but
she
is
a
wonderful
woman
and
I
and
I
know
it's
not
my
business,
but
I'm
so
happy
that
you've
decided
to
recommend
the
name
of
the
facility
after
her
and
and
paddle
start.
But
but
I
will
say
too
before
we
get
started,
everybody
whose
face
is
on
this.
G
This
thing
owns
this
you've
all
been
responsible,
especially
councilmember
gregory,
with
your
leadership.
So
the
nice
thing
about
this
plan.
It's
not
our
plan,
it's
it's
you!
It's
every
one
of
your
citizens
and
it's
your
plan
and
I'm
glad
you
mentioned
jason
and
laura,
because
we've
driven
them
crazy
because
we
made
sure
that
we
didn't
take
any
step
until
we
told
them
what
we
were
thinking
about,
and
you
do
have
an
amazing
city.
G
H
H
H
D
H
H
We
looked
at
a
10-minute
walk
to
your
existing
neighborhood
parks
or
larger
parks,
and
the
10-minute
walk
to
a
park
is
a
campaign
of
the
national
recreation
of
park,
association,
the
urban
land
institute
and
the
trust
for
public
land
and,
in
your
case,
you've
got
about
51
of
your
residents,
so
just
barely
a
little
over
half
that
are
within
that
10.
Minute.
Walk
to
a
neighborhood
park
and
that's
important
to
people's
livelihoods,
to
their
their
health
and
to
property
values
as
well.
H
The
green
areas
show
those
areas
that
are
that
are
accessible
to
those
facilities,
and
then
we
looked
at
not
just
those
two
maps,
but
we
mapped
like
11
different
facilities
like
we
did
a
map
for
recreation,
centers
and
a
map
for
aquatic
facilities
and
pools
another
one
for
playgrounds
and
tennis
courts
and
basketball
courts
when
you
lay
all
those
on
top
of
each
other.
You
get
this
map,
which
shows
you.
Those
areas
in
red
are
the
very
low
service
areas
that
don't
have
much
service
and
areas
in
blue
have
high
surface
areas.
H
So
you
see
that
most
of
the
peninsula
area
has
pretty
good
service,
because
there's
a
lot
of
parks,
the
upper
portion
of
the
the
peninsula
is,
it's
got
more
red
and
orange
colors
to
it.
A
lot
of
outer
west
actually
is
got
a
lot
of
the
red
and
orange
colors,
so
it's
less
service
levels
there,
whereas
inner
west
ashley,
has
more
facilities
to
be
offered.
D
H
Into
canehoe
beyond
daniel
island,
just
because
there
wasn't
much
up
there
at
this
point
and
it
just
made
our
amounts
a
lot
smaller,
so
we
concentrated
on
the
areas
that
we
could
really
see,
and
then
we
did
a
process.
We
call
the
social
needs
and
conditions
index
when
you
see
all
these
facilities.
These
factors
on
the
left-hand
side.
You
know:
income,
education,
unemployment,
single-parent
households,
crime
residents
under
18.
You
know
where
the
kids
live
over
65
persons
with
disabilities
and
then
population
density
and
poverty.
H
So
look
at
all
those
social
conditions
and
they
factor
all
those
together,
and
you
end
up
with
a
map
like
this.
That
shows
those
areas
in
red
are
those
areas
that
would
benefit
the
most
from
social
services,
not
just
parks
and
recreation,
but
any
kind
of
services.
Those
areas
in
blue
have
better
social
needs
and
conditions.
H
So
this
and
then
we
take
those
two
analyses
and
put
them
together
and
it
shows
those
areas
that
have
low
service
areas
and
nice
social
needs
issues,
and
you
know
upper
portion
of
the
peninsula
and
then
in
portions
of
west
ashley
and
parts
of
james
island.
Where
there's
those
are
you
know,
those
are
really
good
target
areas
for
you
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
the
residents
in
those
areas.
G
G
It
should
make
you
all
very
proud
of
the
work
that
you
do,
but
if
you
see
the
the
girl
with
the
green
shirt
on
that's
what
we
wore
every
time,
we
went
out
to
a
park
and
it
says
let's
talk,
parks
and
rec,
and
this
was
at
where
the
mlk
pool
is.
I
forget
the
name
of
flips
community
center,
but
it's
a
it's
an
amazing
place
and
we
assisted
with
food
drive
which
took
part
during
coven.
G
So
the
scope
of
the
work
of
serving
was
great,
but
we
found
those
activities
where
we
knew
people
would
be
there
and
the
entire
community
came
out
for
those
food
drives.
So
we
were
there
and
what
I
would
do
is
I
would
pull
them
aside
on
the
basketball
court
and
we
would
just
talk
to
them
about
how
things
were
going.
So
we
did
this
in
every
single
region
of
the
community.
In
fact
it
it
came
hoy
we
were
at
the
we
were
at
the
convenience
store.
G
Of
course,
there's
people
that
are
really
happy.
You've
got
some
really
great
facilities
in
certain
parts,
and
you
don't
have
any
in
other
parts.
So
so
it
it
was
good.
The
other
thing
that
it
enabled
us
to
do.
During
cova
during
citizen
engagement,
there
were
a
lot
of
people
that
utilized
the
parks.
That's
where
people
went
and
the
one
that's
stuck
in
my
mind
is
when
I
went
out
to
john's
island.
G
There's
a
very
large
latino
community
on
john's
island
and
they
were
there
and
they
were
using
and
one
of
the
things
that
you'll
see
that
we
got
from
the
citizens
engagement
was
they
want
a
little
bit
more
unsupervised
play,
so
we
were
able
to
add
that
into
our
recommendations,
and
we
were
even
able
to
add
that
into
some
of
the
capital
things
just
to
have
these
spaces
that
people
could
just
go
and
utilize
their
parks
without
it
being
programmed
all
the
time.
So
we
did
everything
with
citizens
engagement.
You
can
imagine.
H
And
we
also
attended
all
of
the
city
plan
work
sessions
and
the
public
meetings
there
and
reviewed
all
the
data
from
those
as
well.
So
we
have
incorporated
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
from
the
city
plan
into
this
plan
as
well,
the
ones
that
apply
so
a
few
of
the
highlights
of
this.
You
know
just
here's
one
that
shows
some
of
the
common
themes.
We've
heard,
you
know,
upgrading
your
existing
parks,
you
know
restrooms
in
the
parks.
H
H
Yes,
a
few
of
the
mail
server.
That's
a
statistically
valid
survey
of
your
residence
that
was
done
on
a
random
sample
and
we
had
one
question
asked
for
the
priority
for
facilities
and
it's
a
combination
of
two
questions.
One
is
what
are
the
unmet
needs
that
you
have
and
then
the
other
one
is
what
are
the
most
important
facilities
to
you,
your
family
and
your
household,
and
you
know
the
ones
in
blue
at
the
top
of
those
high
priority.
Yellow
areas
walking
and
hiking
trails
was
the
100
on
both.
H
H
Yes,
we
asked
the
same
question
for
programs
and
you'll
see
the
top
five
or
six
there.
Six.
I
guess
that
are
in
blue.
The
high
high
priorities,
concerts,
art
performances,
movies
and
special
events
are
all
those
types
of
things
that
bring
a
community
together.
Those
activities
that
really
make
you
feel
a
sense
of
community
that
people
would
like
to
see
plus
fitness
and
wellness,
is
huge,
more
nature,
oriented
programs
and
in
programs
for
for
persons
over
age.
H
50
are
some
of
the
top
high
priorities
that
we
see
there
along
with
all
the
other
programs,
and
then
we
asked
what
services
you
know.
Should
the
city
focus
on
the
most
and
you
see
at
the
top
of
the
list,
is
acquiring
and
preserving
open
space
in
natural
areas.
Is
this
kin
city
city
continues
to
grow
at
a
rapid
pace?
You
need
to
plan
for
that.
That's
what
the
city
plan
is
all
about.
Trying
to
plan
for
some
of
those
and
this
plan
and
the
city
plan
combined
together,
will
give
you
that
background.
H
So
you
can't
wait
until
the
developers
gobble
it
all
up.
Upgrading
your
existing
parks
and
facilities
was
a
common
thing.
We
saw
everywhere
just
fix
up
what
we
have.
We've
got
some
good
stuff.
We
just
need
to
make
it
better
and
a
lot
of
it's
old
new
trails
and
connecting
your
existing
trails
as
and
then
acquiring
land
for
wreck
facilities
and
the
programs
for
youth,
others
just
new
pools.
H
H
You
know
the
west
ashley
you
know,
greenway
is
just
is
so
popular
to
so
many
people,
but
you
know
continuing
that
on
with
the
low
line
in
other
areas
that
connect
them
together.
Performances
concerts,
health
and
wellness
are
all
extremely
important
and
the
great
thing
about
this
is
we
ask
the
question
a
lot
of
the
surveys
when
we
do
this,
how
willing
are
you
to
support
some
type
of
a
tax
or
a
bond
referendum
to
pay
for
this?
H
And
typically
we
see
you
know
a
pretty
much
a
straight
25
in
all
four
quadrants,
but
in
your
case
it
was
extremely
high
69.
They
would
strongly
support
or
moderately
support
all
those
things
they
said
they
wanted
in
the
survey
only
five
percent,
so
they
would
not
support.
This
is
much
higher
than
we've
ever
seen
in
doing
these
surveys
of
communities.
We
recently
did
one
in
in
garland
texas
and
it's
a
city
of
outside
of
the
house
about
186
000
and
as
a
result
of
a
question
like
this.
H
A
A
C
H
G
So
I
think
if,
if
I
were
an
elected
person-
and
I
actually
am
one
sitting
at
my
pleasant
we've
accounted
for
me
tonight-
I
think
it's
good.
When
you
can
let
the
citizens
give
their
own
tax
increase
to
themselves
as
opposed
to
you
just
issuing
it
to
them
on
your
own.
If
here's
a
state,
here's
a
survey
that
says
they
would
pay
for
it
now
you
officially
go
out
and
ask
them
if
they
would,
and
so
that
is,
that
is
eventually
what
we
are
working
towards
and
I
did
did
want
to.
G
C
C
C
Bond
referendum
100
thing
is
obviously
in
a
completely
different
realm,
but
also
have
to
take
into
consideration
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
necessarily
understand
that
a
bond
referendum
is
a
tax
increase.
Did
you
all?
How
was
that
worded
on
the
survey?
Was
it
were
a
bond
referendum
or
was
it
ordered
as
a
tax
increase,
because.
G
G
There
is
only
a
certain
amount
of
money
that
citizens
can
can
absorb,
but,
more
importantly,
there's
only
a
certain
number
of
projects
that
jason
and
his
staff
are
going
to
be
able
to
do
so.
I
think
the
discussions
that
are
going
on
now,
like
to
at
today's
meeting,
we're
not
going
to
ask
you
to
support
any
number
or
any
bond
number.
But
what
will
be
done
with
your
finance
staff
with
with
a
a
list
is
how
much
of
this
elephant
does?
G
Can
the
city
actually
bite
off,
and
I
don't
for
a
second
think
that
it's
going
to
be
117
million
dollars
at
all,
so
discussions
will
be?
What
is
that
number?
What
can
they
absorb
and
then
the
the
elected
officials
yourself
and
everyone
else
will
have
a
discussion
to
decide
what
that?
What
that
sweet
spot
may
be.
C
Downplay
the
intelligence
of
our
community.
That's
not
what
I'm
saying
but
bond
referendum
is
a
choice
of
words
that
a
layman
may
not
even
understand,
and
if
you
just
suppose
a
question
you
know
at
all
the
different
rec
centers
hey.
Would
you
support
a
bond
referendum
to
get
new
facilities,
heck
yeah?
I
would
but
there's
language
in
there
that
I
don't
know
if
you
asked
all
those
people
well,
would
you
support
us
raising
your
taxes
to
do
it?
They
might
say:
oh,
you
know
that
that
might
be
a
different.
C
H
A
H
H
The
first
one
is
health
and
wellness
for
all
our
residents
and
some
of
us
you
know,
objectives
and
the
sort
of
the
sub
topics
underneath
there
are
objectives
for
our
athletics
facilities,
wellness
social
services
and
then
all
of
our
recommendations
fall
within
these
categories
as
well.
Natural
and
cultural
resources,
as
community
treasures
is
goal
two
so
stewardship
outdoor
beauty,
access,
history,
art
and
culture
and
resilience
are
all
the
key
parts
of
that
goal
area
and
the
third
one
is
durable
services
in
for
our
community.
H
So
operations
and
maintenance,
funding
staff
and
volunteers
and
the
local
support
are
the
key
parts
under
that
goal,
and
then
the
final
goal
is
accessible
connectivity
through
our
community,
so
equity.
In
terms
of
the
facilities
and
programs,
you
offer
trails
and
wayfinding
just
connect.
The
community
shared
encounters
again,
as
I
mentioned
before,
those
types
of
events
and
activities
that
bring
a
community
together,
then
partnership
and
collaboration.
You
can't
do
this
all
by
yourself.
H
H
Consistency
throughout
the
whole
community
in
your
equity
and
service,
financial
security
being
able
to
sustain
the
system
financially,
equity
and
inclusion
are
important
throughout
all
the
parks
and
the
programs,
your
accountability
to
your
residents
and
citizens,
the
workforce
that
you
have
to
keep
those
parks
in
a
great
condition
and
keep
those
programs
running
great.
The
collaborations
with
other
organizations
you
know,
flooding
resiliency
is
a
key
issue
and
then
credibility,
developing
a
credible
department.
G
G
G
I
think
there's
not
one
definition:
councilmember
gregory,
I
think
equity
is
involved
in
human
equity.
It's
involved
and-
and
that
takes
us
back
to
the
social
needs
and
conditioning.
But
it's
also
equity
in
in
offerings
and
program
offerings
and
where
they're
offered
so
equity
was,
is
not
a
one
definition
answer.
We
tried
to
bring
equity
into
every
single
thing
that
we
examined.
A
And
so
then
you
so
then
you
do
have
data
showing
areas
of
minority
people
of
color
concentrations
and,
of
course,
of
course,
the
conditions
of
the
particular
parks
of
projects
in
those
areas,
because
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
that
data
to
see
whether
or
not
parks
in
certain
areas
might
get
more
attention
than
parks
in
other
areas.
This
is
where
the
equity
comes
in:
okay,
because
those
parks
that
were
not
getting
okay,
what
they
should
have
been
may
have
to
get
more
okay
in
order
for
equity
to
exist.
A
D
H
Yes,
we
we
do
have
well
that
that's
a
different
analysis,
the
results
of
the
statistically
valid
survey
we
have
race,
ethnicity
and
also
where
they
live,
one
of
the
five
different
service
districts
that
we
call
them,
which
one
do
they
live
in.
So
we've
done
an
analysis
by
those
those
types
of
things.
D
H
Right
and
then
that's
why
we
did
the
whole
I'll.
Certainly
I
didn't
show
them
all
here
today,
but
a
whole
series
of
maps
showing
those
walk
times
and
drive
times
to
every
type
of
of
park
and
every
type
of
facility.
So
we
can
really
see
you
know,
for
example,
the
fact
that
there's
a
demand
for
a
rec
center
in
inner
west
ashley
shows
up
clearly
because
there's
nothing
in
that
area.
But
you
don't
see
that
when
you
look
at
the
overall,
you
know
the
conglomerate
of
the
map,
but
you
do
see
it.
G
What
we
want
to
have
is
what
is
what
the
city
of
charleston
does
so
well
right
now
you
have
core
services
that
you
really
really
are
great
doing.
These
are
aquatic
services.
You
teach
people
how
to
swim
as
well
as
any
any
community.
You
have
indoor
recreation,
centers
outdoor
field,
space,
outdoor
court,
space
trails
are
important:
water
access,
outdoor
gathering,
spaces
and
structures
for
fun
and
fitness
like
playgrounds
and
things
like
that.
That's
what
you
do!
Those
are
your
core
services.
G
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
five
regions
within
the
city
each
have
these
core
services
in
them.
So
if
an
if
an
area
doesn't
have
a
pool,
you'll
see
our
recommendations
towards
that
you'll
see
inner
west
ashley.
That
has
a
lot
of
facilities,
doesn't
have
that
indoor
gym.
So
so
we
looked
at
that,
but
as
far
as
providing
the
services,
pat,
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
G
Here's
what
we
looked
at.
We
looked
at
the
recreation
director
being
responsible
for
the
five
district
supervisors.
We're
not
going
to
get
caught
up
right
now
in
semantics
of
what
the
name
is,
whether
even
you
want
to
use
district.
You
may
use
whatever
you
want,
but
there
are
five
areas
where
10
years
from
now
the
citizens
that
live
in
that
pocket
need
to
know
that
person
not
necessarily
laurie,
but
the
person
who's
there
with
them.
One
of
the
disturbing
things
talking
to
people
in
the
kane
hoy
peninsula
area.
G
One
of
the
things
that
not
only
I
think
I
remember,
council,
member
gregory,
whispering
in
my
ear,
even
at
the
interview
before
we
were
selected,
was
we're.
Gonna
have
to
figure
out
how
we're
gonna
pay
for
these
things,
and
I
understand
that
you
all
know
where
I
worked
and
finding
finding
ways
to
pay
for
things
are
important.
G
We
feel
like
there
should
be
a
position
called
enterprise
manager
that
actively
seeks
out
things
to
be
done
in
your
community
that
are
going
to
bring
in
revenue
to
this
community
right
now.
You
have
a
very
efficient
system
because
permits
are
given
out
and
they're
followed
up
on,
and
money
is
collected,
they're
efficient
in
management,
but
they're,
certainly
not
lucrative
as
it
comes
to
actual
costs
that
should
be
charged.
G
G
With
a
percentage
being
given
in
your
report,
you
will
see
a
very
quickly
done
way
to
show
a
200
000
revenue
amount
in
the
first
year
by
somebody,
that's
an
enterprise
manager,
and
I
think
it
can
be
double
that,
but
we
wanted
to
be
con
conservative
and
this
will
grow
and
grow
and
grow
without
any
disrespect.
The
current
staff.
I
don't
think
you
have
that
person
on
your
staff
right
now.
G
You
have
people
with
a
big
heart.
You
have
people
that
want
to
meet
and
give
out
food
to
the
community
members,
but
you
don't
have
an
entrepreneur
that
is
figuring
out
how
to
get
as
much
money
fairly
from
your
users
as
you
possibly
can.
That's,
not
an
insult,
but
there
are
people
out
there
and
we've
had
one
question
at
one
time
saying:
well,
how
do
you
pay
them?
G
I
believe
strongly
that
an
enterprise
manager
can
highlight
your
facilities
when
they're
not
used,
and
the
reason
I
showed
this
chart
is
because
this
enterprise
manager
is
going
to
be
working
with
all
five
district
leaders
to
be
able
to
say,
hey,
what's
available
next
weekend
what's
available
over
here
and
they
they
use
all
five
districts
to
generate
this
revenue.
So
that's
how
we
see
the
staffing
going.
G
H
H
Equity
analysis
is
important,
we're
looking
at
where
those
facilities
go
in
the
programs,
the
overall
needs
per
district,
and
we
do
have
sections
in
a
plan
that
talk
about
the
deficiencies
in
each
of
those
those
five
planning
areas,
the
capital
facilities
replacement
program
is
extremely
important,
just
because
a
lot
of
things
are
just
getting
old
and
the
facility
assessment
funding.
You
know
we
did
an
assessment
of
every
park
and
then
they're
undeveloped
parks,
you've
got
land.
D
H
Oops
so
in
terms
of
finances,
an
analysis
of
the
cost
and
what
does
it
cost
you
to
run
your
programs
and
to
operate
your
facility
just
to
know
the
true
cost
of
those
things
is
something
that
one
of
our
communities
recently
worked
in
hired
a
summer
intern.
To
just
just.
Do
that
just
you
know
just
minimum
wage,
pretty
much
job
trying
to
you
know,
looking
at
all
the
costs
to
analyze
that
if
tom
mentioned
the
expanded
enterprise
opportunities,
we
talked
about
the
taxpayer-funded
capital
assessment
and
then
grants
and
philanthropic
opportunities.
H
G
G
These
are
people
that
we
have
had
very
frank
discussions
with
them
about
their
responsibility
to
be
raising
funds,
not
only
raising
funds
for
them,
but
raising
funds
for
the
department
as
well.
For
the
underserved
and
very
receptive
on
these
things
and
you'll
see
those
expanded
upon
in
the
report
as
well.
G
Is
there
a
restroom?
It's
about
the
ability
to
have
the
restroom
open
and
clean,
but
there
are
positions
that
have
been
taken
away
that
sometimes
get
in
the
way
of
that.
So
without
getting
into
a
lot
of
detail
filling
the
vacant
positions
is
a
recommendation
that
we
have
that
we
think
should
work
also
during
covid.
D
Yes,
please,
oh
thank
you
jennifer
and
thank
thanks.
Chairman
tom,
I
guess
the
question
I
have
and
I'm
not
speaking
for
laurie,
but
you
know
we
go
through
this
right
now.
You
know
in
the
after
school
program
with
the
school
district,
in
terms
of
like
hourly
rates
that
we're
paying
our
staff,
it's
easy
to
say,
fill
the
vacant
positions,
but
I
guess
my
question
is
as
part
of
these
recommendations.
A
you
know,
update
in
the
hourly
rate
we
should
be
paying
for.
Is
that
part
of
the
recommendation.
G
Really
hard
to
get
them,
so
it's
there's
a
lot
of
creative
ways.
Laurie's
done
some
good
ones,
but
yes,
you're
right.
It
is
an
issue,
but
one
of
those
positions
that
would
like
to
see
come
back
is
a
is
a
park
ambassador
and
during
covid
laurie
sent
her
staff
out
into
the
parks
once
they
weren't
programming
anything,
but
what
they
were.
They
were
eyes
and
ears
for
everything,
and
you
know,
safety
is
a-
is
a
really
big
concern.
B
C
Tom,
I
will
agree
with
you.
The
restrooms
are
a
must
at
pretty
much
every
property
ever
as
a
city,
and
it
has
a
public
purpose.
That's
really
the
first
thing
that
always
comes
up,
and
I
mean
think
about
it.
Do
you
want
to
eat
at
a
restaurant
that
has
a
nasty
bathroom?
You
want
to
go
to
a
place
that
has
a
nasty
bathroom.
It's
no
matter
what
we
do.
C
I
like
councilman
mcgregor,
actually,
I'm
a
little
bit
surprised,
but
I'm
not
at
the
same
time,
because
we
have
an
amazing
department.
I
was
happy
to
see
that
in
a
lot
of
cases,
especially
in
the
number
of
parks
we
have
per
our
ten
thousand
people,
we're
actually
a
lot
better
than
the
national
average.
In
that
regard,
you,
your
co,
your
your
group
has
looked
at
I'm
sure
many
parks
and
recreations
programs
across
the
country.
C
C
G
You
know
it's
interesting.
It
all
depends
on
what
you're,
what
you're,
what
we're,
actually
measuring
and
comparing
it
to.
I
can
tell
you
this.
There
are
very
few
departments
that
take
care
of
their
citizens
needs
better
than
the
city
of
charleston
period
when
you're,
when
you're
delivering
milk
to
people
that
live
in
your
city.
You
know
you
know
why
in
the
world,
you
exist,
the
issue
that
you
have
and
and
and
council
member
griffin.
It
knocked
you
off
the
chair,
but
it
knocked
everybody
else
off
the
chair.
G
There
are
facilities
and
capital
things
that
haven't
been
kept
up
with,
and
I
hate
to
be
so
direct,
that's
where
the
large
numbers
come
with.
So
how
does
that
compare
honestly?
It's
not
it's
not
you're
in
the
same
boat
as
everybody
else.
Government
doesn't
have
an
unlimited
amount
of
money
to
just
give
to
everything
you
have
to
prioritize,
but
with
a
great
department
with
everybody
using
it,
your
facilities
become
deteriorated
and
I
don't
care
what
the
facility
just
look
at
swimming,
what
you're
dealing
with
with
just
aquatics.
G
So
I
think
this
department
stacks
up
very
very
well
as
it
relates
to
serving
the
people
that
you
have
everybody
that
works.
There
knows
why
they
get
up
in
the
morning.
They
know
who
they
serve
and
they
get
that
done,
but
without
being
overly
direct,
you
have
not
funded
the
capital.
Things
like
they
needed
to
be
funded.
C
C
A
If
I've
been,
if
I
may,
if
I
may,
the
answer
to
that
question
is
yes
and
that's
going
to
be
a
council
decision
in
terms
of
how
we
prioritize
whether
or
not
we
even
deal
with
that
figure,
and
I
think
that
tom
mentioned
that
early
on.
So
that's
going
to
be
our
decision
harry
right
of
how
we
do
this
thing
and
how
we
prioritize
it,
because
I
know
where
you're
going
and
I'm
in
the
same
place.
We
have
a
whole
bunch
of
priorities.
C
My
my
point
is
just
I
understand
there
are
things
there
are
probably
things
that
we
can't
wait
on.
You
know.
Restroom
upgrades
is
one.
That
is
something
that's
very
very
important,
but
I
just
I
hope
that,
no
matter
what
our
council
decides,
you
guys
in
such
a
wealth
of
knowledge,
will
still
be
a
part
of
the
equation
to
help
us
prioritize
yeah.
G
Well,
I'll
tell
you
what
we
have
the
data
for
you
to
get
that
done,
but
all
council
members
have
different
different
different
priorities
and
that's
okay,
but
you've
got
a
good
council.
You'll
compromise
and
you'll
come
up
with
something,
but
if
we
weren't
in
this
room
and
we
weren't
and
we
weren't
talking
about
referendum-
and
you
didn't
know
what
it
was,
jason
would
find
a
way
to
bring
his
band-aids
out
after
he
gets
a
couple
million
here
and
a
couple
million
here
to
make
us
live
for
another
year.
G
A
G
A
G
It
did
under
the
term
under
the
guide
of
safety,
okay,
okay
and
and
so
what
what
you
will
see
in
some
of
these
numbers
that
are
astronomical
numbers.
You
won't
see,
light
bulb
prices,
but
you'll,
see,
you'll,
see
the
term
lighting
and
that
could
be
field
lighting.
That
could
be
any
any
type
of
lighting,
but
safety,
councilmember
gregory
has
come
up
and
lighting
is
one
of
the
solutions
towards
safety.
G
G
The
rural
recreation
programs
are
are
are
good,
but
rural
keeps
going
away
in
charleston,
more
and
more
people
department
john's
island
used
to
be
a
bunch
of
tomato
farms,
not
anymore.
So
in
fact,
I'll
tell
you
an
interesting
fact:
james
island
was
a
rural
recreation
program
at
one
point
in
time,
so
that
shows
those
changes.
G
50
years
from
now,
they're
going
to
need
it,
but
there's
there
needs
to
be
discussions
with
berkeley
county
schools
which
they
are
interested
in
having
these
discussions
on
your
city,
the
city's
use
of
this
land.
The
other
thing
that
I
do
know
that's
going
on
is
the
trust
for
public
land
is
working
with
supervisor,
crib
and
berkeley
county
on
their
own
green
belt
program,
which
is
similar
to
charleston
county's
green
belt
program.
The
interesting
thing
about
charleston.
We
talk
about.
G
Oh
we're,
going
to
use
green
belt
money
for
that
we're
going
to
use
green
belt
money
for
that,
but
daniel
island
and
kane
hoy
road.
We
can't
use
greenbone
bunny
for
that,
because
it's
berkeley
county
so
so
I
believe
that's
going
to
be
coming
soon,
but
the
city
of
charleston
needs
to
be
in
commissioner
cribs
office,
making
sure
that
their
fair
share
is
is
is
given
to
them
the
other
thing
in
berkeley
county.
G
I
I
mentioned
matt
sloan's
name
more
than
I
guess
I
should,
but
we
we
were
able
to
meet
with
him
and
he
is
more
than
willing
to
work
with
the
city
in
usage
of
land
right
now.
So
we
think
there's
an
opportunity
along
cainhoy
peninsula
to
work
in
a
partnership
with
the
school
district
and
berkeley
county
and
private
developers
before
you
have
to
walk
in
and
buy
big
tracks
right
now.
H
In
terms
of
flooding
resiliency,
you
know
that's
a
topic
that
keeps
coming
up,
but
there's
a
lot
of
park
based
solutions
and
you're
already
starting
some
of
that.
But
you
know
collaborations
the
army
corps
of
engineers
wall
and
putting
trails
around
that
when
it's
done
continuing
with
the
dutch
dialogue
solutions,
and
then
you
know,
the
public
parks
can
be
a
key
part
of
that
stormwater
management.
A
H
That
works
yeah
they
do
and
it
works
well
for
certain
types
of
facilities,
but
not
others.
You
know
you
don't
want
to
put
a
bunch
of
playgrounds
that
are
going
to
be
flooded
and
those
kind
of
things,
but
just
large
open
natural
areas
of
open
fields.
Those
kind
of
things
are
great
for
that
type
of
environment.
Well,.
A
G
Yes,
absolutely,
and
if,
if
you'll
notice,
we
have
actually
recommended
brittlebank
to
be
looked
at
and
actually
remastered,
planned
and
and
that'll
all
be
a
part
of
it,
but
it's
interesting
council
member
gregory,
it's
almost
like
a
flip
of
what
you
said.
Instead
of
using
some
of
your
parks
for
drainage,
the
city
has
already
have
has
great
examples
of
take,
like,
I
guess,
the
townhouses
that
are
over
in
the
west
ashley
area
that
were
taken
down
so
that
they
took
that
down,
and
that
became
a
park.
G
G
B
H
And
one
final
one
is:
the
department
should
pers.
Both
the
parks
and
recreation
departments
can
together
should
continue
to
try
to
look
for
capra
certification,
which
is
a
national
certification,
just
showing
excellence
in
the
parks
and
recreation
department.
It's
just
showing
that
you
know
it's
like
you.
Have
your
police
and
fire
departments
are
all
accredited
you'd
be
do
the
same
for
them
as
well.
B
G
C
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
you
know,
I
love
the
enterprise
manager
thing
and
I
think
it's
great.
I
know
you
don't
want
to
do
it
tied
to
their.
You
know
tied
to
the
amount
of
money
they're
bringing
in,
but
I
could
see
that
person
immediately
paying
for
themselves
and
then
and
then
some
I
mean,
wouldn't
that
be
a
first
step
to
try
to
generate
some
income
into
our
parks.
G
I
think
it's
first.
Second,
third,
fourth
step:
I
think
this
could
grow
so
big,
but
having
that
having
that
person
in
there
to
just
get
it
off
the
ground,
you
have
great
parks,
you
have
great
facilities,
people
want
to
use
them
and
people
will
pay,
but
you
should
get
the
money,
not
the
vendor
right.
Well,
not
I
mean
it's.
The
split
should
be
there
right,
but
you've
got
to
get
your
share
for
this.
It's
your
land,
your
taxpayers
are
paying
for
it
and,
and
you
should
be
compensated
for
that
use.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
tom
pat
again.
I
I
hope
my
colleagues
sense
from
this
summary
presentation,
how
thoughtful
how
inclusive
you've
been
and-
and
I
I
really
think,
we're
kind
of
at
a
crossroads
of
you
know-
trying
to
take
go
to
the
next
quantum
level,
the
next
step
of
improving
a
good
system
into
a
great
system,
not
just
the
facilities,
but
the
programs
that
we
offer
and,
as
I
said
when
we
started
you
know,
beyond
the
necessity
everybody
be
safe.
F
I
can't
think
of
anything
that
the
city
does,
that
that
contributes
more
to
our
citizens,
quality
of
life
on
an
everyday
basis.
You
know
you
might
argue
that
the
school
system
you
know,
has
more
of
an
everyday
impact.
That's
we're
not
in
charge
of
that
of
the
things
we're
in
charge
of
having
a
great
park
and
great
recreation
programs.
F
F
According
to
the
field
survey,
work
that
tom
and
pat
have
done
they
they
indicate
we
would
be
able
to
be
willing
to
help
pay
for
thoughtful
improvements
to
both
parks
and
and
rec
programs
in
our
city.
So
unfortunately
just
the
timing
of
the
delivery
here
and
the
legal
requirements
to
get
on
that
question
on
the
ballot
this
november.
F
If
we
were
to
take
that
question
forward,
timeline
is
very
tight,
and
so
so
we
are
going
to
look
at
that
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks
in
terms
of
priorities
and
numbers
and
and
what
we
think
a
reasonable
request
would
be
to
our
citizens.
Now,
councilmember
griffin,
duly
noted,
you
know
that
number
is
a
big
number
and
and
the
way
I
look
at
it
is
like
paying
for
the
revenal
bridge.
You
know
it's
a
500
million
dollar
project.
F
We're
going
to
have
to
do
the
same
thing.
We're
going
to
have
to
ask
our
citizens
to
play
a
role
and
and
pay
a
piece
of
it,
we're
going
to
have
to
hire
an
enterprise
manager
and
try
to
operate
where
we
can
like
tom,
has
shown
us.
He
can
do
did
at
the
county
system
to
to
make
a
little
money
where
we
can
on
on
where
it's
appropriate.
F
F
So
it
will
end
up
taking
a
real
combination
of
efforts
and
one
I
didn't
mention
it
where
those
parks
like
brittlebank
is
in
a
tiff
district.
You
know
the
west
edge
tif
district,
which
I
think
will
perform
well
over
the
next
10
years
and
and
maybe
we
could
pay
for
you
know
strategically
located
ones
that
are
in
tax,
increment
finance
districts.
We
could
fund
those
improvements
coming
from
those
sources.
F
So
my
point
is
I
I
I
I'd
like
to
come
to
council
soon
with
a
proposal
to
put
this
on
the
ballot
this
november,
so
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
started
and
set
this
vision
for
the
next
10
years,
make
it
a
reality
and
and
and
but
it'll
be.
You
know
a
thoughtful,
reasonable
request
that
I
think
our
citizens
will
support,
but
understanding
will
be
funding
for
this
over
10-year
period.
A
C
Sir,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
just
I
don't
want
to
take
away
from
this
done
presentation.
Mastery
masterfully
done
document
that
I
feel
is
the
direct.
I
need
to
go
as
a
city
over
the
next
decade
plus,
as
you
said,
mr
mayor,
but
I
feel
like
we're
doing
a
disservice
by
trying
to
lump
in
the
bond
referendum
into
this
executing
this
plan.
I
feel
like
those
are
two
totally
different
things.
One
is
the
game
plan
and
the
blueprint
for
the
recreation
parks
and
rec
department.
The
other
is
how
we're
going
to
fund
it.
C
We
master
plans
all
the
time
we've
approved
several
in
the
last
few
years
and
we've
never
tied
in
a
referendum
or
bond
referendum
into
it
and
forced
you
know
our
hand
in
that
way.
I
think
it
would
be
grossly
inappropriate
at
this
time
today
to
say
that
we're
going
to
put
the
burden
back
on
our
taxpayers
through
a
bond
referendum,
because
there
are
so
many
unanswered
questions.
C
So
I
am
very
very
much
appreciative
and
happy
to
endorse
this
master
plan
today,
but
I
feel
like
I
would
be
doing
a
gross
injustice
and
justice
to
my
constituents
to
say
that
I'm
going
to
support
us
raising
taxes
as
of
today
when
we
don't
even
know
exactly
how
much
money
we're
going
to
ask
for.
I
understand
that
the
time
frame
is
short,
but
we
have
to
know
what
that
number
is
before.
We
can
approve
any
sort
of
referendum
or
at
least
take
a
vote
on
it.