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City of Charleston Committee on Traffic and Transportation 1/12/2021
A
Ready,
I
saw
this
board
and
I
think
she
was
signed
in.
I
was
here:
okay,
great,
we'll
let
council
member
del
chapo
finish
her
soup
and
we'll
get
going.
A
A
A
Please
amanda.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
see
that
our
minutes
from
our
last
meeting
are
deferred.
So
the
first
item
of
business
for
today
is
a
golf
cart
discussion
and
I
see
miss
borden's
name
next
to
that
on
her
agenda.
Mr
warden,
are
you
there.
B
I'm
I'm
going
to
start
in
there.
Okay
show
me
something
good
to
see
you
all
of
you
all
good
to
see
you.
B
I
told
the
mayor
I'm
trying
to
get
my
ways
back,
but
the
golf
cart
memo,
if
you
remember,
started
as
inquiry
from
council
member
lewis
and
wanting
to
see
better
ways
to
regulate
some
of
the
golf
carts,
especially
in
our
downtown
area
area
and
otherwise.
B
And
so
initially
we
had
sent
out
a
memo
that
described
some
of
the
ways
in
which
some
of
our
neighboring
communities
handled
those
regulations
and
otherwise,
and
what
they're,
where
there
might
be
improvements
upon
some
help,
specifically
from
janie
in
terms
of
the
state
code
and
also
dmv
practices.
There
appears
to
be
a
way
in
which
we
could
help
and
kind
of
curtail
some
of
the
unregistered
golf
carts
that
are
sometimes
in
the
public,
right-of-way
and
or
parking
in
spaces
that
are
paid
for
and
chimed
or
not
following
rules
from
there.
B
And
so
there
appears
to
be
a
way
to
within
the
existing
state
code
and
with
existing
dmv
regulations
for
us
to
proceed.
So
we
just
wanted
to
inform
you
of
that
and
what
that
exactly
looks
like.
I
don't
think
that
that
necessarily
requires
any
type
of
vote
as
much
as
it's
just
a
change
in
our
procedure
and
also
some
of
our
parking
enforcement
officers
with
some
additional
rights
that
they
will
need
from
you
all
in
a
proceeding
council
meeting.
But
robbie.
B
C
For
state
law
golf
carts
are
required
to
be
registered
through
the
dmv.
It's
after
you
know,
look
looking
into
the
dmv,
it's
not
a
very
difficult
process.
It's
really
just
a
form
that
they
have
to
fill
out,
indicating
the
ownership
as
well
as
that.
The
golf
cart
has
insurance
and
once
they
complete
that
they
do
get
a
sticker,
a
decal
that
is
required
to
be
placed
on
the
golf
cart,
which
helps
us
to
identify
kind
of
like
a
license
plate.
You
know
who
the
golf
cart
belongs
to
now.
C
The
the
problem
that
we're
running
into
as
far
as
enforcement
is
that
we're
finding
golf
carts
that
are
parking
illegally
parking
in
prohibited
zones
or
even
in
meteors
that
are
not
registered,
that
we
cannot
find
any
identification
like
a
vin
number.
So
we
have
you
know
enforcement
problems.
Now
I
will
say
last
year
2020
we
did
write
173
parking
citations
on
golf
carts,
but
a
lot
of
them.
We
just
had
to
walk
away
because
they're
not
registered.
B
And
the
only
other
piece
I'll
just
add
in
there.
Thank
you
robbie
is
that
the
specific
question
that
was
asked
of
us
was
about
what
may
need
to
be
changed
within
our
city
ordinances,
and
I
guess
what
we
wanted
to
emphasize
is
that
there
is
a
enforceability
opportunity
here
without
us
having
to
do
any
city
ordinance
changes
just
leaning
into
the
state
law.
So
I
wanted
to
present
that
information
to
you
all
about
the
fact
that
that
ability
is
on
the
table.
B
There
is
an
outstanding
piece
right
if
I'm
not,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
regarding
parking
enforcement
officers
who
would
have
to
be
given
the
abilities
to
give
out
those
summons
that
probably
would
be
with
some
of
our
supervisors,
but
that
that's
the
baseline
of
the
recommendation.
From
that
conversation,
we
kind
of
wanted
to
close
up
the
research
piece
of
what
was
asked
of
us
with
golf
carts
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
concerns
that
you
all
have
about
our
findings
and
and
how
we
potentially
can
proceed.
D
Keckerberg,
mr
chairman,
you
know
we
had
discussed
this
and,
and
there
had
been
other
towns
that
developed
pretty
intricate
registration
protocols
of
their
own,
and
this
is
kind
of
hackneyed
expression.
But
the
thought
here
is:
let's
just
try
to
for
enforce.
What's
already
on
the
books,
which
is
the
state
registration
law,
see
how
that
goes
before
we
decide
to
draw
up
our
own,
our
own
ordinance
that
that
would
duplicate
what
the
state
already
has
in
place.
D
I,
I
would
add
that
I
I'd
like
to
if
we're
moving
along
this
course
make
sure
that
charleston,
police
and
livability
officers
you
know-
have
have
this
ability,
also
so
that
if
some
not
just
a
parked
golf
cart,
but
one
that's
riding
around
and
it's
you
know
apparent
they're
being
negligent
or
need
to
be
stopped
for
any
reason
that
the
officer
you
know
also
can
give
them
a
summon
to
that
point
for
not
having
their
registration.
A
E
So
really
the
only
the
only
enforceability
we
have
is
as
far
as
the
registration
I
think
like,
if
they
don't
have
a
valid
driver's
license,
there's
nothing
as
far
as
as
far
as
the
safety
of
it
like
how
you're
operating
or
does
that
follow
the
same
as
vehicles.
C
It
really
follows
the
same
as
the
vehicles
you're
required
to
have
an
active
driver's
license
a
valid
driver's
license
to
operate
a
golf
cart.
I
think
I
got
to
be
over
the
age
of
16..
Golf
cart
cannot
be
operated
at
night.
C
E
So
some
of
these
things
that
it
you
know,
I
guess
I
guess
that
maybe
goes
up.
You
know
I
just
I'm
kind
of
stumped
that
those
aren't
included
in
these
regulations
and
I'm
hard-pressed
to
find
a
golf
cart
ever
being
cited.
They
could
very
well
be,
and
I'm
just
not
seeing
it.
I
don't
think.
E
B
We
can
explore
all
those
pieces
with
police
and
livability.
I
think
when
that
initiative
came
to
this
committee.
Well,
actually
was
stated
at
full
council
and
then
came
to
this
committee.
It
was
specific
around
the
forceability,
with
parking
and
with
the
the
golf
cart
usage,
and
otherwise
there
were
some
other
additional
pieces
regarding
safety
that
did
come
up
and
there
are
some
other
local
municipalities
that
have
raised
some
pieces
there
that
we
definitely
can
explore.
B
I
think,
internally,
we
we
saw
an
immediate
opportunity
on
enforcement
from
a
parking
standing
situation
with
the
golf
carts
and
the
fact
that
what
what
completely
disables
us
from
even
being
able
to
get
in
touch
with
the
owner
of
that
vehicle
is
the
lack
of
registration
and,
and
so
how
do
we
hold
accountability
there
for
no
matter
what
particular
infraction
is,
but
but
at
minimum
for
the
enforceability
when
it
when
it
comes
to
parking,
and
so
I
know
we
definitely
wanted
to
move
forward
on
that
piece
and
definitely
can
can
explore
all
different
other
areas
too,
for
how
those
those
vehicles
should
and
should
not
be
amused.
A
So
if
I
might
a
couple
things,
if
you
don't
mind,
mr
somerville
will,
I
think,
concur
with
this.
We've
been
talking
this
for
a
long
time
about
this
for
a
long
time,
and
I
think
that
having
some
access
to
the
unregistered
golf
courts
is
a
really
good
idea.
We
should
do
it
and
I
think
robbie
I
mean
four
or
five
or
six
or
seven
years
ago
we
were
looking
at
the
availability
of
mini
golf
cart
boots
and
all
that
have
we
figured
that
out.
Can
we
get
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
A
What
I
thought
so,
I
think
we
kind
of
have
a
bifurcated
track.
Do
we
for
those
who
are
responsible
and
come
in
and
register
their
golf
carts?
C
Well,
the
the
dmv
issues,
the
of
course
registration,
but
on
that
form
it
does
indicate
that
you
have
to
have
a
valid
driver's
license.
It
does
indicate
the
you
got
to
have
insurance.
It
does
indicate
that
it
gives
basic
information.
I
know
councilwoman
chopper
was
referencing
distracted
driving.
I
do
not
think
they
require
like
seat
belts
and
I
think
that's
what
the
mayor
was
getting
more
into,
maybe
that
we
should
could
possibly
look
into
a
more
affirmative
firmed
up
ordinance.
That
would
address
all
that,
but
I
think
the
application
is
just.
A
And
I
definitely
agree
with
with
councilman
del
chapo
that
we
probably
need
to
beef
it
up,
but
I'm
just
thinking
about
the
basic
information
that
we
already
have
in
place
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
a
step
in
the
process
where
people
who
go
to
register
actually
see
and
understand
and
acknowledge
what
those
rules
of
the
road
are
so
we're
all.
On
the
same
page
and
like
I
said
I
mean
I,
I
don't
know
how
it
is
on
daniel
island
but
downtown.
A
I
think,
danielle
and
downtown
are
the
two
places
where
the
most
golf
carts
there.
There
is
zero
compliance
with
some
of
just
the
very
basic
rules
that
we
already
have
in
place.
So
before
we
get
to
the
next
level
and
start
looking
at
the
people
driving
with
their
kids.
My
favorite
is
when
the
kids
are
actually
sitting
in
the
back
and
they've
got
the
dog
in
their
lap
and
there's
two
little
kids
in
the
back
untethered.
A
B
What
we
can
do,
if
you
don't
mind
chair,
is,
if
you
remember,
we
have
a
traffic
work
group
committee
with
cpd
in
our
department
that
also
business
neighborhood
services
attends,
and
so
let
us
bring
this
up
at
a
topic
for
at
that
grouping
figure
out
how
we
coordinate
together
so
like,
for
example,
when
on
daniel
island,
we
we
heavily
depend
on
cbd's
presence
there,
and
so
that
would
have
to
be
partnership.
There
bns
the
type
of
cars
that
they
give
out
for
the
street
sleeping
to
neighbors.
B
A
A
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
you
know
if
you
go
up
to
king
street
on
any
given
night,
and
I
mean
night
when
it's
dark
you'll
see
a
number
of
golf
carts
parked
in
funny
places
they're
going
to
get
back
in
and
go
home.
I
mean
just
a
placard
we
can
put
on
them
and
say:
excuse
me,
you
can't
drive
this
thing
after
night.
That's
really
at
night.
It's
a
bad
idea
and
it's
against
the
law.
A
I
think
just
getting
the
information
out.
There
would
be
helpful,
very
helpful.
So
what
I
guess
we
just
need
to
give
you
our
blessing
and
say:
please
go
forward.
Prosper,
come
back
and
get
us
some
more,
so
we
can
enact
whatever
we
need
to
be
able
to
go
after
those
unregistered
golf
carts.
Is
that
what
you're
asking
okay
mayor
council
member
bill
chapman,
I
was
see
councilmember
brady
has
tuned
in
welcome
and
happy
new
year.
A
Thank
you
for
being
here
we're
on
the
subject
of
golf
carts
near
and
dear
to
all
of
our
hearts,
and
we
got
a
report
from
mr
somerville,
mr
benjamin,
about
sort
of
where
we're
heading
with
all
this
and
the
focus
right
now
is
unregistered
golf
carts
and
then
complying
with
the
existing
rules
of
the
road
council
member
del
chapo
and
the
mayor,
I
think,
also
might
see
some
further
clarification
of
the
rules.
Some
enforcement,
so
first
step
is
to
get
everyone
on
the
same
page.
F
Nope
that
all
sounds
good
and
I
yeah,
I
think,
on
the
golf
carts
operating
at
night,
especially
that's
even
in
the
neighborhood.
Like
my
neighborhood.
It's
an
issue.
You
know
people
with
golf
carts,
a
lot
of
them
aren't
registered
and
they
go
out
for
these
like
night
cruises
and
are
really
tough
to
spot
yeah.
A
Yeah
and
it's
it's
an
increasing
issue
and
if
we're
going
to
allow
them
on
the
streets,
let's
make
sure
they
follow
the
rules.
Okay,
janie,
I
see
you're.
There
is
anything
from
our
legal
staff.
We
need
to
know
or
we'll
just
let
you
all
go.
Do
your
thing
all
right.
What
I
would
ask
is,
mr
benjamin,
that
you
get
back
to
us
sooner
rather
than
later
on
this.
Let's,
let's
get
this
through
and
over
with
and
in
place
soon.
Okay,.
A
B
Yes,
so
many
times,
there's
transportation
projects
that
are
moving
forward,
that
are
a
combination
of
a
lot
of
collaboration
among
city
staff
and
and
when
it
happens,
and
it's
really
good
stuff.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
you
all
are
informed
and
know
what's
going
on.
B
One
of
the
asks
that
you
have
of
our
department
in
coordination
with
others,
is
that
we
focus
on
implementation,
and-
and
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
is
moving
forward
with
implementation,
thanks
to
what
has
been
this
cooper
river
bridge
tiff
group
that
has
continued
to
meet
post.
B
Some
bloomberg
work
almost
two
two
and
a
half
years
ago
for
it-
and
this
is
one
of
the
projects
that
was
outlined
from
the
cd
committee
to
move
forward
on
a
lot
of
partnership
here
and
I
wanted
now
and
to
kind
of
give
you
a
briefing
on
it,
make
sure
you
knew
what
was
going
on.
There
are
some
follow-up
counsel,
requests
and
procedures
that
will
be
following
this,
but
what
we
wanted
to
do
today
was
at
least
present
the
project
to
you.
B
So
you
can
know,
what's
going
on
know
that
things
are
moving
on
the
transportation
side
when
it
comes
to
that
eastern
corridor
of
cooper
area
so
I'll.
Let
alan
kind
of
give
the
presentation
there
and
then
take
any
questions
that
you
all
have
right.
Great.
G
Thank
you
very
much
keith
I'll,
say
you
know
it's
not
often
that
we
get
to
really
focus
in
on
a
project
that
is
funding
and
this
close
implementation
a
lot
of
times
we're
we're
drawing
stuff
up,
and
it
doesn't
get
that
close.
So
this
is
a
really
good
moment.
The
mayor
asked
us
to
take
a
look
at
this
project
a
while
back
and
there
was
a
a
tiff
allocation
as
keith
mentioned,
and
so
this
is
really
just
connecting
dots.
G
It's
an
attempt
to
use
the
already
mobilized
private
sector
to
deliver
much-needed
public
infrastructure
and
I'll
explain
what
I
mean
by
that
in
just
a
moment.
So,
as
as
many
of
you
know,
this
geography
already
anybody
who's
driven
down,
morrison
drive
south
of
ut
street,
has
seen
this
anyone
who's
walked
down.
Morrison
drive
in
this
location
has
certainly
seen
this.
This
is
actually
a
drier
condition.
A
lot
of
times.
G
What
you
see
instead
of
this
is
or
in
addition
to
this
is
a
is
a
a
lot
of
ponding
that
occurs
in
this
in
this
kind
of
washed
out
area.
A
lot
of
that
ponding
occurs
above
the
curb
line.
So
it's
not
associated
with
the
drainage
of
the
street
itself
is
associated
with
the
drainage
of
adjacent
properties
and
the
again
above
the
curb
line
portion
of
the
right-of-way.
G
So
obviously
this
is
an
area
in
need
of
a
sidewalk.
We
also
look
for
opportunities
where
basic
infrastructure,
like
sidewalks,
can
alleviate
other
priorities
for
the
city,
such
as
access
to
affordable
housing
and
also
alleviating
flooding
just
for
reference.
This
is,
it
is
not
exactly
in
the
cooper
river
bridge,
tiff
district,
but
it
does
connect
to
parts
of
the
tif
district.
It's
not
a
major
issue.
It's
just
you
know
it's!
G
It's
just
to
indicate
that
this
project
benefits
the
tif
district
and
is
actually
the
funding
from
the
the
tif
district
is
what's
going
to
pay
for
this
improvement.
There's
currently
150
000
already
allocated
and
a
2017
tif
district
bond.
So
this
is
money
that's
already
in
place
and
ready
to
be
used
for
this
infrastructure
and
again
we'll
connect
this.
This
is
the
area
over
here.
If
you
can
see
my
cursor
number
10
it'll
connect
two
sides
of
the
cooper
bridge
tip
district,
so
it's
a
good
benefit
to
the
area.
G
Just
for
also
for
context,
our
partners
on
this
project
is
origin
development
partners,
they're
responsible
for
the
development.
That's
currently
underway
called
morrison
yards.
This
is
a
bar
submittal
from
theirs
of
2019.
It
showed
some
of
these
desired
off-site
improvements.
They
did
quite
a
bit
of
neighborhood
engagement
where
they
talked
about
all
these
off-site
improvements.
They
were
not
required
to
deliver
this
portion
of
sidewalk.
It's
part
of
the
typical
trc
process,
so
it
sort
of
falls.
G
It
falls
outside
of
scope
of
their
exact
project,
but
since
their
crews
are
already
out,
there
they're
doing
the
work
they're
more
than
happy
to
help
us
get
this
project
done
as
opposed
to
to
any
further
delays
that
would
be
associated
with
it
being
a
standalone
project
in
our
typical
capital
project
system.
So
this
is
something
that's
ready
to
go
right
away,
because
the
private
sector
is
already
mobilized
and
ready
to
do
this
work
for
us
and
and
the
the
details
of
them
doing.
G
That
work
is
to
be
worked
out
in
a
memorandum
of
agreement,
a
little
more
details
on
the
project.
So
all
the
way
from
ug
street
down
to
cooper
street
is
where
is
where
there's
going
to
be
some,
not
sidewalk,
that's
needed.
Of
course,
there
are
some
segments
where
the
sidewalk
is
already
constructed.
G
Generally,
the
concept
is
to
complete
the
sidewalk,
where
it's
not
constructed
and
then
also
to
install
ada
accessible,
curb
ramps
and
to
where
we
can
and
if
budget
allows
to
do
some
of
the
lateral
cross
rocks
so
that
that
are
there
that
are
currently
not
existent
and
and
then
even
further,
if,
if
money
allows,
is
to
further
study
a
particular
area
near
near
near
the
housing
authority,
property
south
of
sander
center's
clyde,
which
is
another
area-
that
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
just
quick
section
here,
just
to
help,
you
understand,
what's
happening,
there's
a
lot
of
runoff
from
the
adjacent
property.
G
That's
coming,
there's
a
kind
of
sheet
flowing
overland
sheet
flow
away
from
the
private
property
into
the
right-of-way.
It's
pooling
above
that
curb
line
and
that
water
is
not
able
to
get
over
the
curb
line
into
the
street
drainage.
Simply
adding
a
sidewalk
and
filling
this
area
would
alleviate.
Obviously
the
transportation
need
in
the
area,
but
also
the
the
overland
sheet
flow
to
allow
water
to
escape
into
the
morse
and
drive
drainage
system.
G
We've
received
a
cost
estimate
from
the
from
the
partners.
We
could
do
a
five
foot
sidewalk
or
a
six
foot
sidewalk.
You
can
see
the
prices
of
those
here,
it's
well
within
our
budget.
Other
other
uses
of
this
funding
might
also
be
contingency.
G
Sometimes
things
cost
a
little
bit
more
once
you
start
to
open
them
up,
making
sure
we've
got
all
the
curb
ramps
and
bells
and
whistles
that
we
actually
need
to
make
sure
that
this
is
ada,
compliant
and
and
fully
complete,
and
so
there
will
be
some
wiggle
rooms
in
terms
of
the
allocation
of
the
remainder
of
the
150
000,
again
all
details
that
need
to
be
worked
out
in
the
memorandum
of
agreement.
G
One
more
kind
of
note
that
I
would
add
is
that
there's
plenty
to
you
plenty
plenty
else
to
use
this
money,
for
especially
when
things
start
to
become
a
little
bit
more
complicated
in
this
one
particular
area,
and
a
lot
of
you
already
know
this.
It's
the
parking
area
that
that
basically
is
fronting
onto
morrison
drive.
It's
a
it's
essentially
just
before
you
get
to
the
the
old
grace
and
pyramid
pyramid,
bridge
area,
the
cooper
river
bridge
redevelopment
area,
as
we
call
it
a
highly
visible
issue.
G
Here
I
mean
the
parking
lot
itself:
floods
and
that's
independent
of
the
of
the
flooding
along
morrison
drive,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
issues
out
here.
Certainly
there's
no
sidewalk,
but
we
would
like,
if,
if
there
is
any
money,
any
funding
left
over
after
the
basic
needs
of
the
sidewalk
are
met
for
this
project.
We
would
like
the
landscape,
architects
and
the
design
team.
G
The
next
step
is
to
develop
the
memorandum
of
agreement
with
the
private
sector
development
partners,
origin
partners
we'll
be
doing
that
over
the
over
the
coming
weeks.
We're
going
to
bring
this
back
to
city
council
in
26..
I
believe
that
would
be
real
estate.
G
I'm
sorry
it'd
be
ways
and
means,
and
also
full
council,
and
then,
after
that,
we
you
know,
we
build
it,
we
evaluate
it
and
then
we
reimburse
the
partner
for
for
all
the
funding
and
really
keeping
an
eye
on
where
those
dollars
go
and
make
sure
we
we
get
the
infrastructure
that
we're
looking
for
pretty
simple
project,
it's
a
win-win
scenario,
and
you
know
we're
ready
to
get
it
done.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Great
any
questions
for
mr
davis
on
this
or
any
additional
comments,
mr
benjamin,
before
we
hand
it
over
to
the
mayor
or
council
members.
B
A
Right
mayor
council
members,
any
questions
about
this
project.
D
We
clearly
need
some
sidewalks
along
there
if
you
run
into
a
little
shortfall
allen,
please
let
me
know
with
that
little
area
you
know
near
the
charleston
housing
authority,
I
sure
don't
mind,
asking
them
to
chip
in
a
little
bit
and
that
other
feature
right
there
on
that
bottom
picture,
I
think,
is
a
pump
station
that
belongs
to
charleston
water
service.
So
again,
if
we
were
short,
a
few
bucks,
I'm
happy
to
ask
them
to
chip
in
as
well,
so
that
that
area
just
looks.
D
You
know,
we've
done
such
a
fine
job,
improving
st
julian
devine
right
there
you
can
see
in
the
background.
You
know
we
ought
to
just
go
the
extra
mile
and
try
to
make
this
whole
carter
look
look
nicer
than
it
is
and
more
functional
and
handle
the
water
better
it
it
all
makes
sense.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
Any
other
comments
from
members
of
the
committee.
Alan
thanks.
I
think
this
is
a
really
cool
project
and
it
really
is
needed.
This
is
kind
of
hard
to
believe,
but
actually
I've
got
a
group
that
we
run
up
along
that
corridor,
a
good
bit
in
that
very
area
where
you
showed
that
first
picture
and
it's
a
lot
of
times
it's
it's
impassable,
because
it's
so
muddy
and
everything.
So
I
think
we'll
really
make
some
improvements.
A
I
also
note
mayor
and
council
member
del
chapo,
in
particular
one
of
the
things
that
defines
that
corridor.
As
you
look
at
that
lower
picture
is
those
smoke
stacks
so
certainly
certainly
part
and
parcel
of
the
landscape
of
that
area
of
the
side
of
the
city.
So
alan
this
will
come
back
to
ways
and
means
just
for
approval
of
funding
through
the
the
private
developer
and
then
are.
G
No
sir,
I
highly
doubt
it
that's
typically
not
what
we
do
and
I'll
talk
with
the
mayor
to
get
specifics
on
that,
but
most
likely
be
managed
through
real
estate
or
bfrc
or
legal
or
some
other
other
department.
I.
B
Just
think
it's
been
actually
this
is
this
project
actually
is
listed
on
the
city
capital
improvements
plan,
so
most
likely
it
might
sit
within
the
capital
improvements,
team
capital
projects,
team
for
execution,
one
other
piece
I'd
be
remiss
not
to
say
in
2018
we
had
passed
the
citywide
transportation
plan.
B
If
you
remember
one
of
the
locations,
four
improvements
was
at
morrison
in
the
lee
cooper
corridor
and
how
we
can
make
sure
that
corridor
looks
better
for
the
future,
and
so
this
isn't
all
that
could
happen
there,
but
it's
a
piece
of
it.
So
I'm
glad
that
this
is
is
moving.
A
Great
okay,
well
we'll
look
forward
back
to
a
report
at
ways
and
means
in
the
next
meeting
I
take
it.
We
don't
really
need
to
take
any
action
on
this.
We
just
simply
need
to
wait
and
hear
when
it
comes
back.
Am
I
right
about
that.
H
You
you
should
see
two
things
coming
at
the
january
26
meeting
one
will
be
in
moa
with
the
developer
for
the
project
itself.
The
other
one
is
going
to
be
a
resolution
for
the
findings
of
benefit
to
the
tif
district,
since
the
project
is
technically
majority
out
of
the
tisch
district,
but
is
bookended
by
it.
Okay.
A
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
on
this.
If
not,
I
guess
we'll
see
this
back
in
a
few
weeks
in
front
of
ways
and
means:
when
can
this
project
get
going?
Alan.
G
Those
details
will
also
be
worked
out
with
the
developer,
but
their
crews
are
already
mobilized.
I
mean
they're
out
there
digging
stuff
up
right
now,
so
I
I
they
they've
been
eager
to
take
this
on
for
quite
a
while,
and
so
we'll
get
back
with
them
and
let
you
all
know
when
it's
ready
to
start
breaking
ground.
A
B
Hey
everybody.
I
know
I
sent
you
all
a
a
detailed
update
on
a
number
of
different
things
before
the
holidays,
but
the
work
continues
coming
into
the
new
year.
So
I
have
a
number
of
things
for
you
all.
Please
feel
free
to
stop
me
in
the
middle
of
this
or
or,
however,
you
feel
if
questions
are.
That's
just
come
up
that
you
want
to
dig
into
first.
One
on
my
list
is
with
brigade
street
that
project.
I
have
reported
that
out
to
you
all.
B
We
presented
it
to
you
all
as
well.
Initially,
we
were
under
the
assumption
that
the
project
was
going
to
begin
at
the
latter
point
of
last
year,
but
we're
told
january
11th
and
then,
as
we
came
into
the
new
year,
that
date
was
pushed
back
to
january
25th.
That
being
said,
bank
excuse
me
banks.
B
The
contract
that
scdot
contractor
is
has
has
begun
their
notifications
and
we're
coordinating
with
them
on
what
street
closures
are
going
to
look
like
notifications
to
the
neighborhood
and
all
those
things
we've
been
sending
monthly
updates
to
the
neighborhood
presidents,
council
members
in
the
of
those
districts
and
other
advocates
in
areas.
So
they
knew
what
was
going
on
as
a
reminder,
this
project
is
a
partnership
with
ncdot.
It's
us
taking
advantage
of
their
resurfacing
plan
to
introduce
what
will
be
the
first
protected
bike
infrastructure
in
the
city.
B
At
the
time
when
we
first
started
doing
the
planning
pieces,
I
think
it
was
between
2015
and
2018
checking
my
numbers,
but
it
was
somewhere
between
23
and
28
accidents,
just
as
that
intersection
in
that
time
frame,
and
so
you
know,
improvements
of
the
line
of
sight,
introduction
of
rapid
beacon,
flashers,
protected
bike
infrastructure,
concrete,
curb
bowl
belts,
that
meeting
and
brigade
improvements
at
morrison,
as
well
throughout
connections
to
the
eventual
low
line.
B
The
other
thing
that
I
sent
a
message
out
to
you
all
about
was
with
the
transportation
sales
tax
with
charleston
county
and
the
fact
that
we
have
been
asked
to
submit
our
list
of
application
projects
for
february
1st
due
date,
we've
worked
with
city
staff
and
collected
a
list
of
projects
all
throughout
the
city,
garden
city
staff
involvement
presented
some
of
those
to
the
mayor
as
well.
We'll
also
present
those
projects
to
the
bike
and
pedestrian
advisory
committee
on
the
21st
just
to
get
their
blessing
as
well.
B
Just
a
couple
of
things
that
are
different
in
this
solicitation
process
that
have
changed
between
last
year
and
coming
to
this
year.
One
is
the
the
county
specific
that
accident
data
be
included
in
our
applications,
and
so
we've
been
working
with
cbd
on
getting
that
together.
That's
a
really
big
predicator
for
how
they
will
and
won't
fund
certain
projects.
B
And
so
we
were
careful
about
what
projects
we
were
choosing
simply
just
off
of
that
notion
and
then
the
last
piece
is
the
requirement
to
have
support
letters
for
any
of
the
projects
that
we
submit,
and
so
this
is
where
our
council
members
are
going
to
come
into
play.
B
You
will
be
hearing
from
michael
mathis
on
my
team,
we'll
we'll
pre-draft
for
you,
but
you'll
be
hearing
from
us
on
projects
that
might
be
in
your
district
and
getting
your
co-signed
for
sending
in
those
applications
and
getting
a
letter
of
support
from
you
to
pair
with
that
application.
B
Before
we
submit
so
post
the
my
pet
meeting
on
the
21st
most
likely,
you
will
hear
from
myself
and
or
michael
mathis
on
that
to
get
your
response,
so
we
can
get
those
applications.
H
B
Next
thing
on
my
list
is
a
project
700
crosswalks.
If
you
remember,
this
is
a
initiative
that
we
actually
started
as
a
pilot
with
scdot
district
six
on
improving
signalized
intersections
for
pedestrian
safety.
B
We
started
out
with
nine
pilot
projects
and
and
since
then
in
the
tri-county
area,
it's
now
up
to
142
locations
that
have
been
treated
in
partnership
with
the
district
office,
we're
continuing
to
push
that
partnership
and
definitely
welcome
in
in
not
just
you
all
districts,
but
other
council
members
districts,
areas
that
definitely
need
that
help
and
assistance.
Just
for
your
knowledge-
and
these
are
primarily
on
the
peninsula.
There's
some
additional
intersections.
B
We're
planning
to
have
done
this
year
that
were
are
already
in
the
works
and
waiting
for
scbot
to
fund
and
implement
those
being
rutledge
at
cleveland.
Coming
at
vanderhorst,
coming
at
radcliffe
coming
at
morris
courtney
at
dowdy
and
rutledge
at
vanderhorst,
so
there'll
be
some
type
of
pedestrian
enhancement
there,
whether
that's
nas
crosswalks,
whether
that's
ada,
accessibility,
where
that
has
pedestrian
signals.
Rexed
are
really
trying
to
just
make
sure
we're
pushing
the
issue
of
safety
as
much
as
possible.
One
other
piece
of
safety.
B
I
want
to
show
you
all
you,
you
probably
have
seen
these
in
white,
but
we've
improved
them
a
little
bit.
These
flood
marker
signs
that
are
going
to
be
at
varying
locations
around
the
city,
specifically
one
to
to
be
a
notification
to
motorists,
as
they
come
into
varying
intersections
that
through
gis
and
cbd,
maybe
open
and
close
depending
on
tide
flows,
but
also
making
sure
that
we're
enhancing
our
flood
notification
and
warning
systems
that
we've
been
coordinating
with
the
resiliency
team
on
so
just
a
little
bit
of
partnership.
That's
there.
B
Another
partnership
that
we
are
excited
about
is
with
b
heck
and
carter,
and
thank
you
to
council
members
for
giving
the
green
light
on
this.
But
we
were
approached
the
mayor
was
approached
by
mayor
benjamin
in
colombia,
and
then
I
was
approached
by
representative
marvin.
Pendarvis
d.
B
Heck
has
been
really
trying
to
prioritize
reaching
out
to
marginalized
communities
when
it
comes
to
copenhagen
testing
and
just
innovative
strategies
around
that,
and
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
was
maximizing
the
transit
service
systems
for
being
able
to
reach
those
populations,
and
so
they
actually
did
a
partnership
in
colombia
with
comet
and
they've
approached
the
city
of
charleston
regarding
partnership
with
carter
and
specific
stops,
and
so
we're
in
the
midst
of
talking
with
d-heck
about
the
setting
up
of
a
kiosk
at
mary
street
bus
stop
location
where
both
transit
riders
and
anybody
else
will
be
able
to
come
up
for
rapid
testing
and
be
able
to
know
their
status
when
it
comes
to
covet
19
at
no
cost
to
the
city.
B
No
call
said
also
just
excited
about
that
partnership
and
moving
that
forward
and
giving
as
much
accessibility
as
possible.
One
of
the
just
one
one,
one
nerd
transportation
number,
the
vast
majority
of
our
transit
riders,
don't
have
access
to
a
car,
and
so
the
expectation
that
you
know
if
they
do
have
an
issue
with
covert
or
experiencing
systems
that
they
could
be
able
to
access
certain
testing
sites.
B
If
you
have
to
be
in
the
cars
is
not
reasonable,
so
being
able
to
close
that
gap
between
access
and
opportunity
is
important,
so
just
grateful
for
dhec
and
for
carter
for
making
that
that
partnership
move
just
a
few
other
things.
I
know
we
got
a
lot
going
on,
but
I
got
to
make
sure
y'all
know
what's
going
on.
B
As
you
remember,
thanks
to
councilman
o'brady
and
the
bike
net
committee,
there
was
a
number
of
responses
to
cover
19
that
you
all
permitted
us
to
do,
including
the
closure
of
south
market
street
at
certain
times
to
enhance
social
distancing,
but
also
to
be
a
support
to
the
small
businesses
there
and
the
brick
and
mortar
businesses
as
well.
B
I
think
we
just
lost
so,
and
we
institutionalized
that
on
august
15th
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
able
to
do
was
measure
our
pedestrian
counts.
Throughout
that
time
we
use
what's
called
an
eagle
counter.
It's
a
pyrobox.
That's
been
used
by
cities
all
over
the
country,
but
they
use
like
infrared
systems
to
be
able
to
attract
pedestrians
and
cyclists,
and
some
amazing
numbers
want
to
share
with
you.
B
So
just
raw
data,
so
between
august
15
of
2020
and
christmas,
from
nine
to
five
daily
with
the
full
street
closure
in
place.
The
raw
data
showed
that
there
was
over
129
587
pedestrians
and
cyclists
counted
now.
If
we
take
the
margin
of
error
with
infrared
there's
about
a
10
to
20
percent
under
count,
and
so
if
we
take
that
that
those
estimates
are
our
actual
numbers
of
counts
during
that
time,
as
somewhere
between
142
and
155
000,
counting
of
both
cyclists
and
pedestrians
in
the
corridor.
B
So
something
that
was
definitely
used,
something
that
definitely
was
a
support
to
small
businesses
and
otherwise
and
provided
space
for
social
distancing.
And
so
I'm
grateful
that
you
all
allowed
us
to
be
able
to
put
that
pilot
forward.
Would
love
to
be
able
to
see
how
those
type
of
things
can
look
in
the
city
in
the
future
and
more
permanent
capacities,
because
it's
it
brings
a
certain
amenity
to
our
city.
A
number
of
different
ways
so
definitely
wanted
to
put
that
forward
to
you
all
speaking
of
biped.
A
B
I
know
we
had
gotten
some
responses
from
market
street
vendors
and
brick-and-mortar
businesses
in
the
area
of
wanting
to
get
back
to
their
previous
normal,
and
we
had
also
spoken
about
the
trial
being
between
august
and
the
end
of
last
year,
december
31st,
and
so
that
that's
what
we
stuck
to
in
terms
of
the
pilot
but,
like
I
said
we
would
be
grateful
to
be
able
to
see
about
what
this
looks
like,
not
just
in
that
corridor,
but
in
other
places
in
the
future.
I
do
know
in
the
south
market
street
area.
B
D
Mr
mr
chairman,
if
I
may
yes,
sir
interject
with
that
question-
and
I
must
admit
I
hadn't
thought
about
it,
but
later
this
year-
hopefully
finally
we're
going
to
start
on
streetscape
improvements,
a
market
street
market
area
dominion
is
now
finally
working
on
their
undergrounding
plan
and
and
I
believe
they
may
go
first.
So
what
I
would
recommend
to
to
us
all
just
off
the
top
of
my
head,
I
must
admit,
is
just
continue.
D
A
Mr
mayor,
I
don't
know,
who's
currently
got
the
latest
version
of
that
streetscape
plan,
but
if,
if
we
could
get
our
hands
on
it
and
take
a
look
at
it,
it
may
be
worthwhile
if
it
isn't
already
there
already
to
put
bollards
the
ability
to
put
temporary
movable
bollards
along
some
of
those
corridors.
So
we
can
open
and
close
as
necessary,
rather
than
using
what
is
not
the
most
attractive
infrastructure
and
hardscape
that
we
put
out
there
with
those
barriers.
So
I
think
that
would
be
at
the
minimum
cost
and
a
good
benefit.
D
That's
that
project
is
actually
with
stormwater
keith
and
not
with
capital
projects.
So
if
you'd
get
with
matt
fountain
about
that,
that'd
be
great
yeah.
B
That's
not
a
problem.
In
fact,
matt
was
awesome
in
opening
up
his
design
books
for
us
to
relook
at
the
streetscape
project,
to
make
it
more
friendly
for
pedestrians
and
remember.
Part
of
the
streetscape
is
also
the
enhanced
complete
redo
of
the
signal
at
east
bay
and
market
as
well,
which
will
have
some
pedestrian
enhancements
as
well
that
that
north
west
corner
is
one
of
the
tightest
corners
in
the
city,
and
so
just
yes,
I
will
speak
with
him
about
that.
D
Wow
wow,
that's
right!
I
don't
want
to
tell
you
this,
but
it's
true.
This
project
was
contemplated
when
I
worked
for
may
riley.
A
D
D
Yeah,
like,
like,
I
said
that
one's
off
the
top
of
my
head,
we
need
to
have
some
communication,
just
make
sure
that
makes
sense
for
everybody
all.
B
You
and
just
these
are
quick,
quick
shot
ones,
and
then
I
take
whatever
questions
or
other
issues
I
have
we
do.
We
do
need
to
bring
before
you
before
you.
I
think
it
comes
to
full
council
renomination
of
some
of
our
biped
committee
members,
whose
terms
have
run
out
there's
also
two
vacancies
on
there,
one
for
a
neighborhood
advocate
and
also
for
somebody
who
represents
communities
with
special
needs
and
so
would
love
to
have
those
communities
represented.
B
We
have
an
amazi
gervais,
for
example,
who
represents
one
of
our
neighborhoods
who's,
been
awesome
on
the
committee,
so
we'd
love
to
have
both
of
those
two
slots
build.
So
if
you
all
have
recommendations,
please
let
me
know
and
and
we'll
put
that
on
on
the
docket
we
put
forward.
We
want
to
make
sure
you
also
know
that
parking
division
remember
at
the
end
of
2019.
B
We
have
a
new
space
for
our
entire
parking
enforcement
division,
including
dispatch
still
that
too
george
still
getting
everything
set
up
and
everything
built
out,
but
just
really
grateful
for
those
departments,
helping
us
move
that
forward
and
get
those
dispatch
staff,
city
staff
from
the
county's
facilities
into
city
facilities
and
then
just
finally
just
a
reminder.
We
have
our
monthly
maintenance
schedule
with
our
traffic
operations.
Team.
B
We're
currently
on
the
peninsula
for
this
month,
will
be
in
west
ashley
in
the
month
of
february,
and
just
as
a
reminder,
so
you
know
when
work
orders
are
coming
in
of
what
our
year
schedule
is
for
daniel
island,
we'll
be
there
both
in
november
and
july
will
be
currently
downtown
right
now,
but
we'll
be
back
downtown
in
in
march
johns
and
james
island,
both
in
december
and
august
april,
is
our
flex
month.
So
that
gives
us
our
ability
to
get
anywhere.
B
We
need
to
get
in
the
city
and
I'll
be
able
to
handle
those
responsibilities
and
then
must
actually
again
in
february,
and
then
the
next
time
will
be
in
may
so
just
a
reminder
that
we're
trying
to
make
sure
we
stay
on
top
of
our
work
orders
getting
those
things
out
not
get
behind
in
that
and
just
make
sure
we're
as
responsive
as
possible.
E
B
Gonna,
I
I
need
to
go
back
and
talk
with
bns.
I
need
to
talk
with,
and
otherwise
I'll
admit,
that
some
of
the
responses-
I've
gotten
from
bns
and
from
some
of
the
businesses,
including
the
market
vendors,
was
their
request
to
reopen
the
street,
and
so
I
just
I
need
to
go
back
to
meg
and
find
out
what's
what's
going
on,
and
otherwise
we
were
following.
The
our
reopening
of
the
street
was
following
the
directive
of
hearing
back
from
the
businesses
that
they
needed
to
have
their
space
back,
but
I'm
happy
to
adjust.
E
Okay,
I
just
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
french
quarter
is
communicated
with
the
same
time
as
everybody
else.
E
A
Keep
forgetting
the
market
runs
right
through
the
middle
of
the
southern
end
of
district,
one
that
area
non-area,
I
did
say
they've
they've,
cleared
out
all
the
all
the
barriers
and
everything
and
it's
just
open
now.
So,
let's
see
what
we
can
do
all
right.
Any
questions
for
mr
benjamin
about
what
he's
presented
or
anything
you'd
like
to
see
on
our
agendas
in
the
near
or
distant
future,
or
you
got
something
else.
Let's
see
your
hands.
B
The
only
thing
the
only
thing
left
on
fifth
child
accountable
travel
is
the
markets
we
didn't
want
them
to
just
put
out
paint.
We
want
them
to
go
ahead
and
do
the
thermal
so
they're
just
waiting
for
the
temperature
to
improve
in
order
to
do
the
thermoplastic
thermal
plastic
paint
and
then
we're
talking
about
opening
up
that
intersection.
So
did
speak
to
the
pio
office
about
coordination.
B
Mayor
with
with
you
with
your
council
member
in,
however,
you
all
want
to
handle
that
in
terms
of
the
opening
of
the
intersection
and
letting
the
community
know
they're
happy
to
address
this
doesn't
even
but
that's
kind
of
the
final
piece
for
that
intersection
builder.
E
A
All
right
any
questions
for
mr
benjamin,
a
couple
things
keith,
just
as
we
go
on
for
the
future,
maybe
for
the
next
meeting,
probably
time
for
another
update
on,
I
see
river
crossing
bridge
as
we
get
into
2021
and
also
maybe
an
update,
I'm
hoping
in
two
weeks,
you'll
you'll
have
one
or
someone
will
have
one
on
the
corner,
broad
and
lock,
with
the
repaving
and
lifting
of
the
road,
and
all
that
I've
heard
a
few
different
variations
of
what
might
happen
there.
B
Yeah,
I
would
have
to
I
it
probably
it's
better
for
matt
to
be
the
one
to
be
the
front
facing
on
that
improvement,
because
he's
the
one
who's
been
negotiating,
that
and
and
can
give
those
baselines
for
what
exactly
that
looks
like
a
national
crossing.
If
you
have
not
been
invited
to,
let
me
know,
but
I
think
the
vast
majority
you
have
been
federal
highway
administration
was
doing
a
briefing
on
national
crossing
for
the
council
members
internally
with
city
staff
to
make
sure
that
that
was
going
through.
B
So
I
can
double
check,
but
I
had
asked
a
couple
of
projects
to
make
sure
that
they
had
included
folk,
but.
A
A
B
I'll
I'll
bring
up
the
I'll,
find
the
the
email
correspondence
and
get
it
out
as
nep.
A
F
Yep,
I
just
said
I
had
one
thing
and
keith
I
was
hoping
you
might
be
able
to
confirm.
I
had
heard
that
stormwater
had
given
the
sign
off
on
the
northern
pitchfork.
Is
that
correct?
Because
that
was
kind
of
the
last
hurdle
for
that
project
from
the
county
side.
B
I
did
not
get
the
briefing
from
that,
but
that
was
the
last
piece
that
needed
to
be
handled
so
if
they
have
given
that
sign
off
they'll
be
encouraging.
We
on
our
side,
in
terms
of
our
review,
trc
review
from
transportation
standpoint
have
been
in
line
and
coordinated
with
the
county
to
get
all
of
our
pieces
together.
B
We
also
especially
because
of
the
work
that
may
vander
river,
have
also
coordinated,
been
in
coordination
with
them,
because
all
the
signaling
that
will
occur
even
though
they'll
be
doing
it
we'll
have
to
maintain
and
operate
it.
So
we've
may
not
maintain
those
coordinations
there
so
definitely
sure
that
we
do
have.
B
You
know
we
have
our
kind
of
every
other
month.
We
county
staff,
city
staff
and
scdot
staff
meet
just
to
talk
about
any
and
all
issues.
That's
one
of
the
topics
we'll
be
talking
about
on
february
3rd,
we'll
meet
it
so,
but
I'll
verify
as
soon
as
soon
as
the
meeting's
out.
A
Okay,
anything
else
for
mr
benjamin
or
for
the
common
good,
if
not
we're
just
about
an
hour
in.
Thank
you
all
for
participating,
we'll
see
you
at
4
30-ish
great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
very
much
we're
joined.