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City of Charleston Committee on Traffic and Transportation 5/24/21
B
B
B
All
right,
let's
get
going
and
he
joins
us
great.
If
not
that's,
okay,
too,
all
right.
So
I'd
like
to
call
the
order
the
may
24th,
I
called
order
the
may
24
2021
meeting
of
the
city
of
charleston
traffic
and
transportation
committee.
Thank
everyone
for
being
here
and
ask
if
council
member
brady
will
lead
us
in
an
invocation
or
a
moment
of
silence.
Please.
B
A
B
C
I
have
a
few
slides
to
walk.
You
through
first
want
to
thank
keith
benjamin
and
his
team
over
at
tnt,
specifically
michael
mathis,
thomas
teasdale
and
lee
cleckley,
as
well
as
andrew
jones
over
in
bfrc.
This
team
worked
really
hard
to
get
this
proposal
in
front
of
y'all.
Today.
Lots
of
meetings
a
lot
of
hard
work.
So
thanks
to
thanks
to
that
team
for
everything
they've
done
to
to
get
us
here,
how
do
we
get
here?
C
So
I
think
you
all
probably
know
that
right
away
permits
might
involve
both
tnt
as
well
as
public
service.
Tnt
has
jurisdiction
over
what
happens
in
the
street.
Public
service
has
jurisdiction
over
what
happens
on
the
sidewalk
pre-covered.
We
had
started
to
meet
to
talk
about
how
we
can
streamline
the
process
for
for
our
customers.
C
So
with
that
group,
we
really
did
kind
of
determine
really
the
high
at
the
highest
level
where
we
wanted
to
go
with
this,
and
so
obviously
the
first
piece
is:
how
do
we
streamline
the
process?
Create
you
know,
so
they
have
to
get
more
less
applications
right,
less
departments
to
visit.
So
how
do
we
really
make
it
easy
are
easier
on
the
applicants
or
the
customers
so,
but
the
other
piece
of
this
was
how
do
we
also
increase
safety
and
also
minimize
disruption
to
both
residents
and
businesses?
C
And
so
you
know,
we
thought
the
best
way
to
do
that
was
through
increasing
collaboration,
optimizing
the
length
of
time
for
a
right-of-way
permit.
So
how
do
we
make
sure
that
permits
are
only
obtained
for
the
amount
of
time
that
they're
absolutely
needed
for,
and
this
third
piece,
I
think,
is
really
important:
how
do
we
proactively
inspect
right
away
permit
activity?
C
So
those
are
the
things
that
we
looked
at
and
this
is
really
kind
of
the
holistic
approach,
and
what
I'm
going
to
propose
to
you
today
is
taking
this
first
little
bite
out
of
the
big
elephant.
If
you
will
so
there's
a
much
bigger
process
at
large
that
we
we
hope
to
have
finalized
in
january
of
2022,
which
is
kind
of
having
one
umbrella
under
which
all
right
away
permits
will
will
be
an
inner
guff.
C
C
C
First,
I
want
to
show
you
talk
about
what
their
current
fee
structure
is
for
those
of
you
that
may
not
be
completely
familiar
with
it.
So
right
now
tnt
issues
street
blocking
permits,
there's
no
fee
associated
with
those
dumpster
permits
which
are
10
a
day,
meter
bag
permits
which
are
10
a
day
and
I'll
point
out
at
this
point
in
time.
C
So
we
took
a
look
at
the
permits
that
they
issued
in
2019
2020,
as
we
all
know,
was
a
weird
year,
so
we
didn't
feel
like
we
should
use
the
2019
data.
I
mean
the
2020
data
to
base
anything
off
of
so
you
can
see
the
total
apartments
that
were
issued
from
tnt
here,
a
little
over
2
000,
and
then
the
revenue
that
was
generated
from
those
permits
was
around
380
000.
So
it's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
permits
being
issued
by
the
tnt
department,
they're
they're,
very,
very
busy.
C
So
how
do
we
get
to?
What
is
our
new
structure
or
the
proposed
structure
that
we
were
bringing
forth
to
you
all
today?
We
kind
of
broke
it
into
kind
of
three
major
groups.
If
you
will
so
looking
at
a
full
street
closure,
a
partial
street
closure
and
things
that
are
happening
in
a
parking
space,
whether
they're,
metered
or
not,
metered,
and
so
you
can
see
under
the
full
street
closure
and
the
partial
street
closure-
we've
broken
it
also
down
by
major
and
minor
roads.
C
This
is
not
a
new
delineation
that
has
to
be
made.
These
delineations
are
already
made
in
our
city's
gis
system,
as
well
as
in
south
carolina
dot's
data.
So
it's
already
something
that
exists
and
quite
simply
major
roads
are
interstates
state
and
county
highways
and
some
of
the
primary
collectors,
so
that
works
already
there,
the
data's
already
there,
it's
not
something
that
needs
to
be
recreated,
so
that's
kind
of
the
hierarchy
of
of
the
new
structure
that
we're
proposing
today.
C
C
All
these
permits
require
review
by
at
least
one
individual,
some
of
them
many
many
individuals
before
they
get
approved.
So
we
identified
the
positions
that
needed
to
be
part
of
the
review.
Bfrc,
like
I
said
andrew,
was
part
of
our
team.
He
derived
the
hourly
position
rates
for
us,
and
then
we
also
did
the
time
tracking.
So
then
we
used
all
that
information
to
come
up
with
the
review
fees.
Metered
space
fees,
I
mentioned,
there's
a
gap
that
eight
dollar
gap
between
what
we
collect
for
a
meter
fee
versus
what
that
would
actually
collect.
C
C
So
how
do
we
go
about
calculating
inspection
fees?
So
we
did
a
gis
drive
time
analysis.
We
took
the
2019
permits,
pulled
them
into
gis
and
based
on
that
drag
time
analysis
we
were
able
to
identify
the
average
travel
distance
average
drive
time
and
actually
use
that
to
calculate
along
with
the
inspector
fee,
come
up
with
the
inspection
fees
that
would
be
appropriate.
C
C
So
here
you
see
kind
of
these
major
buckets
and
then
we
didn't
want
to
leave
out
kind
of
miscellaneous
obstructions
just
to
make
sure
that
this
was
kind
of
making
sure
that
we
keep
the
things
that
we
already
have
and
knowing
that,
if
you
have
a
dumpster
pod
or
a
moving,
you
still
are.
You
know
you
still
have
to
get
a
permit
and
and
pay
in
this
system.
C
So
so
then
we
have
the
different
kind
of
subcategories
and
then
the
associated
review
fees,
the
review
fees,
it's
a
one-time
fee,
so
when
they
come
in,
they
pay
that
one-time
review
fee
for
just
the
for
staff
to
review.
So
the
next
piece
is
the
inspection
fee.
So
if
you
need
a
permit
for
10
days
for
a
major
street,
that's
a
full
street
closure.
You'll
pay,
350,
okay,
so
that'll
cover
the
10
days
so
and
why
the
major
is
more
expensive,
basically
double
than
everything
else.
C
We
thought
it
was
really
important
for
a
major
street
to
be
inspected
twice
a
day
if
it's
a
full
street
closure,
so
definitely
a
safety
thing
there
and
then
the
other
ones
are
simply
once
a
once
a
day,
inspection
at
17.50
per
day
per
inspection
and
obviously,
if
metered
spaces
are
impacted
that
it's
an
additional
18
per
space
per
day.
That
would
be
part
of
that
fee.
C
For
those
that
happen
on
a
major
street,
we
felt
it
felt
like
those
were
probably
the
most
important
to
get
inspected,
and
then
we
would
implement
those
and
come
back
to
you
all,
maybe
three
to
six
months
once
we
have
some
data
and
really
kind
of
understand
the
staffing
and
resources
that
we
need
would
be
needed
to
make
sure
that
we
can
actually
perform
all
those
inspections.
Just
a
thought.
Just
a
recommendation
for
for
consideration,
oh
and
major
streets
do
account
for
approximately
30
percent
of
the
permits
that
are
issued.
C
This
is
a
lot
like
trying
to
compare
apples
to
oranges
right
because
we've
kind
of
shifted
how
we're
how
we're
approaching
issuing
permits
and
and
how
they
would
function
so
so
take
this
with
a
grain
of
salt,
so
that
almost
5
million
that
you
see
at
the
end
is
a
is
a
really
exciting
number.
But
there's
a
number
of
things
that
we
should
recognize
about.
That
number
one
is
that
most
of
the
permits
issued
in
tnt
are
kind
of
generally
for
180
days.
C
We
did
take
a
pretty
conservative
approach
to
applying
the
fees
as
well
and
that,
obviously,
if
we
only
implement
inspection
fees
for
major
roads,
that
would
have
an
impact
on
this
overall
inspection
fee
number
that
you're
seeing
here.
So
this
was
an
attempt
to
do
it,
but
please
know
this
was
a
very,
very
much
apples
to
oranges
comparison,
but
we
wanted
to
try
to
present
all
this
information
to
you.
C
So
next
steps,
if,
if
this
gets
approved,
legal
team
is
kind
of
ready
to
to
have
the
right
legal
documentation,
the
ordinances
all
ready
to
go.
I
think
in
the
june
meeting
so
once
it
gets
final
approval
if
approved.
We
would
then
make
configuration
changes
in
entergo
right
now,
we're
on
the
cusp
of
doing
an
upgrade,
so
we
would
wait
till
that
upgrade
is
completed
and,
and
what
that
would
entail
is
simply
making
a
permit
fee
adjustment,
but
also
enabling
the
inspections
for
tracking.
C
So
once
we
have
all
that
in
place,
we
can
start
to
talk
about
some
performance
management
elements
so
identifying
performance
targets.
I
think
a
big
thing
here
is
is
how
we,
how
we
manage
expectations
of
the
public,
because
right
now,
I
think,
there's
folks
that
come
into
tnt
and
really
expect
to
get
their
permit
right
on
the
spot
same
day.
Obviously,
if
you're
doing
a
full
street
closure
on
a
major
road,
that's
something
that
really
needs
some
consideration
and
thought
and
lots
of
eyes
on.
F
First,
I
want
to
thank
this
committee
and
the
mayor
for
giving
us
permission
to
delve
into
this.
If
you
remember
almost
a
year
ago,
you
all
kind
of
gave
us
the
green
light
to
start
digging
into
this
and
come
back
to
you
with
a
proposal,
and
so
this
is
that
first
start
just
for
clarity,
her
instructions
from
legal.
F
Another
big
part
of
this
is
capacity,
so
you
all
had
already
budgeted
for
us
to
hire
an
additional
inspector,
thankfully
to
bfrc
they
allowed
us
to
move
forward
with
that
position,
and
so
once
we
get
our
new
traffic
operations
manager
on
board
who's,
starting
on
june
1st,
we're
excited
about
that.
You
know
we'll
move
full
speed
ahead
on
getting
that
additional
inspector
on
board
as
well.
So
we
know
this
is
a
capacity
piece,
but
there's
an
accountability.
E
E
Well,
as
it
turned
out
they,
their
permit
was
only
for
one
lane
and
they
had
just
taken
over
the
whole
street.
Basically-
and
you
know
there
was,
there-
was
no
accountability
really
not
not
or
not,
not
nearly
the
level
it
needed
to
be,
and
so
of
course,
one
of
my
next
few
questions
was
why
at
least
how
much
money
are
we
getting
out
of
these
folks
from
closing
down
the
street
mayor?
We
don't
we
don't
charge
anything
for
this
and
I
was
like,
I
can't
believe
it.
E
So
it's
taken
us
a
little
while
to
get
this
to
you,
but
it's
really
needed
in
our
city
to
help
manage.
What's
with
the
construction
of
dumpsters
and
everything
that
goes
on
in
the
right
of
way.
I
think
this
is
a
great
start.
A
lot
of
thought
has
gone
into
it,
and
I
want
to
thank
tracy
and
keith
and
robbie,
who
and
and
the
others
who
public
public
service
folks
were
involved,
a
good
bit
too
for
the
work
put
into
this.
Thank
you.
G
C
You
know
all
the
different
scenarios
who
gets
involved
so
we
looked
at
you
know
what
positions
actually
get
involved
and
estimated
the
time
that
they
spend
reviewing
and
meeting
about
certain
permit
types.
Then
we,
then
we
actually
took
that
and
did
time
tracking,
so
tnt
actually
kept
time
track
of
their
hours
associated
with
every
permit
that
they
were
issuing,
and
so
we,
then
we
kind
of
made
adjustments
based
on
the
time
tracking
and
bfrc,
provided
us
with
the
hourly
rates
for
all
the
positions
that
were
involved
in
in
the
permit
reviews.
H
Well,
thanks
that
that
answers
my
question
about
the
50
cents,
that
I
mean
I
thought
well,
maybe
you
know
pennies
on
the
dollar,
it's
sort
of
mind
catching
and
you
do
pay
something.
That's
got
a
50
cents
attached
to
it,
but
now
I
understand
it's
a
real
number.
I
mean
a
calculated
number
based
on
what
the
mayor
just
told
us.
So
my
my
I
I
think
this
is
absolutely
necessary
and
an
improvement,
and
hopefully
a
morale
booster
to
at
least
our
employees
who
pour
themselves
out
to
do
all
these
things.
H
I
I,
I
really
think
we
need
the
inspection
part
of
this
process
because
you're
right
I
mean
we
have
no
control
over
how
long
where
you
know
to
what
extent
these
these
these
uses
of
our
right-of-way,
you
know,
really
impact
our
citizens,
so
I'm
I'm
totally
ready
to
vote
on
an
ordinance
in
in
june.
Thanks.
D
No,
and
I
I
agree
with
what
councilmember
jackson
said
as
well,
just
in
that
you
know,
I
I
think,
especially
for
our
citizens.
Knowing
you
know,
we
are
hustling
and
bustling
city
and
having
our
roads
blocked
that
there's
at
least
some
recompense
for
the
taxpayers
on
that,
and
so
I'm
ready
to
to
move
it
forward
as
well.
E
B
B
All
over
the
city
we
found
one
the
other
day
at
the
corner
of
east
bay
and
broad
they've
been
there
for
a
year
unidentified,
we
didn't
even
know
whose
it
was
we
had
to
go,
lift
the
city
had
to
go,
lift
it
up
to
look
at
the
work
underneath
to
figure
out
who
to
go
yell
at
so
just
coordinating
all
of
this
and
monetizing.
You
know
what's
going
on
in
our
streets
as
we
lose
access
to
them,
I
think
is
a
really
important
step.
B
F
Yes,
sir,
we
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
didn't.
We
didn't
want
to
miss
the
ball
and
presenting
to
you
all.
Actually,
as
as
tracy
was
presenting
said,
this
was
the
right
move
to
make
to
put
in
front
of
you
all
now
get
your
questions
and
then
we'll
work
with
lego
for
the
june
meeting
to
get
a
first
reading
in
front
of
you
all
in
full
council
to
give
additional
direction
or
changes.
C
B
C
B
Okay,
well,
I
mean
we're
leaving
money
on
the
table
here
and
you
might
as
well
go
and
put
it
out
there
right.
Okay,
I
don't
think
we
need
a
motion
unless
there's
any
objection
from
this
committee.
I
think
the
direction
to
ms
mckee
and
mr
benjamin
and
team
is
go
forward
and
bring
it
back
as
soon
as
you're
comfortable
and
then
we'll
vote
on
it
and
pass
it
through
to
council
if
it
passes
this
committee.
B
C
B
A
A
Yeah,
I
know
well
all
right,
so
this
is
a
fairly
fairly
straightforward
moa
again.
This
is
here
for
information,
only
you're
going
to
see
it
on
the
ways
and
means
committee
agenda
tomorrow
night,
but
basically
this
is
an
agreement
between
the
charleston
county,
consolidated,
911
dispatch
center
and
the
city
to
share
some
computer
support
services
that
will
help
our
parking
enforcement
as
to
the
details
of
that
I'll
defer
to
keith.
But
basically
the
agreement
is
until
december
of
2022,
at
which
point
it
can
be
renewed.
A
If
we
decide
the
costs
are
set
forward
in
the
agreement,
the
city
expense
for
2021
will
be
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
four
dollars
and
for
twenty
twenty
two
it'll
be
eight
thousand
seven
hundred
sixty
two
dollars,
and
this
is
going
to
go
towards
maintenance
and
update
as
needed,
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
the
agreement.
Although
it's
very
straightforward-
and
I
think
keith
is
here
to
answer
any
questions
about
the
details
of
the
of
the
exchange
of
services.
F
So
I
t
bfrc
and
facilities
is
extremely
helpful
in
getting
that
together
in
really
a
short
time
frame.
I'm
so
really
grateful
for
that,
and
so
a
number
of
the
costs
that
are
iterated
there
and
I'm
gonna
put
more
to
matt's
mouth,
but
will
already
be
adjusted
and
handled.
So
it's
not
necessarily
a
request
for
new
dollars,
as
some
have
already
been
addressed
to
get
that
office
up
and
running,
and
so
it's
just
us
coming
to
county
and
saying
hey.
B
I
B
B
F
What
we've
been
told
by
scdot
is
that
the
vast
majority
of
the
recommendations
in
the
road
safety
audit
will
be
included
in
their
scope,
minus
a
few
things
here,
and
there
are
areas
where
we
need
to
find
coordination
and
so
they're
moving
forward
with
getting
the
full
scope
done
with
the
engineering
firm
that
they're
working
with
they.
Let
us
know
that,
after
that,
scope
is
completed.
F
The
other
thing
wanted
to
bring
to
you
all's
attention
in
in
light
of
our
conversations
around
complete
streets
and
and
and
the
needs
of
coordination,
to
get
transportation
done.
As
you
all
know,
thankfully,
because
of
good
relationships,
we
get
a
chance
to
see
some
of
the
list
of
pavings
that
either
the
county
are
going
to
be
doing
or
sedrt
scdot
will
be
doing
in
the
future
and
getting
a
chance
to
give
input.
F
We
were
corrected
and-
and
let
know
that
it's
being
looked
at
for
fiscal
year,
2023
so
a
couple
years
off,
but
knowing
that
that
was
the
case
and
knowing
that
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
different
things
that
are
have
happened
along
rutledge
and
could
happen
along
rutledge.
Everything
from
our
citywide
transportation
plan
to
counties
us
17
corridor
study
to
various
different
requests
from
stakeholders.
F
F
That
did
acknowledge
that
there
does
need
to
be.
Coordination
did
acknowledge
that
an
appropriate
form
of
that
coordination
would
be
through
a
road
safety
audit,
but
they
did.
Let
us
know
that
there's
the
current
the
traffic
safety
office
currently
doesn't
have
funding,
but
then
turn
to
the
city
and
said
hey
if
you
want
to
make
something
happen,
move
it
forward,
and
so
I
bring
that
to
your
attention
because
there's
those
opportunities
that
sit
out
there
for
major
coordination.
F
It
would
be
a
cry
and
shame
for
us
to
have
a
newly
paved
street
that
doesn't
implement
the
safety
and
requests
that
we've
heard
from
the
community
for
literally
years,
sometimes
some
of
them
decades
and
and
what
that
coordination
looks
like
where
our
say
so
you're
saying
so
as
elected
comes
into
play
in
those,
I
think,
is
extremely
crucial.
Partnership
is
key,
but
I
think
leadership
is
key
as
well,
and
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
missing
these
opportunities
and
as
much
coordination
as
possible.
F
So
I
just
bring
that
up
as
an
example
of
where
there's
an
opportunity
for
coordination.
Yes,
the
city
can
step
up
and
and
do
particular
pieces
to
move
the
needle,
but
we
all
have
to
do
those
pieces
together
and
so
hopefully
that's
something
that
you
know
again:
they're
looking
at
it
for
fiscal
year
2023.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
ways
off.
But
what
exactly
does
that
coordination
look
like,
and
how
do
we
get
progress
on
that?
So
we
don't
have
basically
a
newly
paid
street
with
exactly
what
was
there
before.
F
The
other
update
wanted
to
give
you
all
was
regards
to
harbor
view
school.
As
you
know,
there's
been
one
or
two
constituents
that
have
mentioned
this
issue
around
the
school
for
some
time
with
regards
to
frampton
and
the
reopening
public
service
took
a
look
at
it
and
decided
not
to
permit
a
hearing.
F
However,
our
team,
along
with
legal,
along
with
public
service,
been
working
to
with
scdot
with
the
school
and
otherwise
to
coordinate,
as
need
be
on
the
latest
requests
that
had
come
out
regarding
on
the
streets
very
streets
where
there
is
existing
traffic
control
to
manage
what
comes
in
and
out
of
that
school
to
place
signs
that
basically
would
make
that
illegal.
We
actually
coordinated
with
ccsd,
had
a
meeting
with
the
executive
director
of
transportation.
F
No
was
a
question
in
our
last
meeting
regarding
lockwood
and
calhoun,
we
did
get
a
letter
from
scdot
stating
that
they
were
comfortable
with
the
left.
Turn
phase
analyzed
report
that
we
did
for
that
intersection
and
we
should
be
getting
their
go
ahead
within
the
next
30
days.
That's
a
small
project,
that's
a
project
that
our
staff
can
actually
get
done
without
having
to
farm
out,
and
so
we
look
forward
to
getting
on
top
of
that
in
july
and
give
us
about
60
to
90
days
to
get
that
project
done
from
july.
B
H
H
F
So
I
haven't
got
a
full
briefing
on
on
who
I'll
be
there.
If
I
look
right
at
the
invitation,
I
saw
various
different
municipal
and
agency
representatives
I
saw
our
mpo
is
represented
there
I
saw,
I
believe
I
saw
representative
from
charleston
moves
on
there
as
well,
so
yeah
definitely
saw
a
number
of
different
folklore
represented.
F
Look
like
the
deputy
secretary
and
deputy
primary
deputy
secretary
colvin
and
then
deputy
secretary
of
planning,
brent.
Both
will
be
in
attendance
as
well,
so
looking
forward
to
hearing
what
their
process
is
and
what
that
looks
like
and
what
implementation
means,
not
just
for
you
know
the
large-scale
projects,
but
for
those
everyday
asks
that
you
all
come
to
us
with
right.
You
know
it's
easy
to
talk
about
big
projects,
multi-million
dollar
projects,
but
that
intersection
safety
project.
H
I
I
think
we
might
be
at
a
place
on
james
island,
and
I
see
a
council
member
of
pell
on
here
that
that
we
would
well
first
of
all
appreciate
having
sort
of
a
complete
streets
explanation
of
what's
happening
on
maybank
border.
I
don't
know
if
it
needs
to
go
all
the
way
down
to
john's
councilmember.
Brady
can
certainly
jump
in
on
that,
but
I
do
feel
like
there's
bits
and
pieces
that
we've
been.
H
You
know
given
an
update,
especially
like
the
crosswalks
and
the
things
that
are,
you
know
going
forward
under
the
city,
management
or
inspiration,
but
I
think
it
would
really
help
us.
I
know
that
you
said
that
until
we
have
an
agreement
among
like
all
the
jurisdictions
that
have
some
sort
of
presence
on
maybank
on
james
island,
with
that
riverland
drive
intersection,
that
we
really
can't
make
progress
until
we
have
some
sort
of
coordinated
agreement
and-
and
maybe
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
start
that
at
this
committee
level.
H
If
that
would
work
for
you
and
and
chairman
seekings,
I
I
do
think
that
there's
pent
up
demand
by
the
by
the
citizens,
no
matter
where
they
live
on
james
island,
to
see
that
maybank
does
have
some
more
holistic,
well-coordinated
game
plan
going
for
public
safety
bike
pad.
You
know
successes
all
of
that.
B
Seems
to
me:
isn't
there
a
working
intergovernmental
working
group
between
the
county,
the
city
and
the
town
of
james
and
james
island
that
that
does
some
looking
at
this?
That
may
be
a
good
place
for
mr
benjamin
to
start
to
brief
everybody
before
it
comes
back
to
this
committee,
because
without
that
coordination,
I'm
not
sure
there's
much,
we
can
do
on
the
bigger
scale.
So
maybe
that's
a
good
place
to
start
keith.
H
Can
I
just
say
one
word:
I
I
think
that
that
that
could
be
a
good
solution,
but
my
experience
of
the
of
the
intergovernmental
council
is
it
sort
of
needs
to
have
a
you
know,
sort
of
a
leading
contributor
to
the
to
the
thinking
we
sit
there
on
that
council
often
and
just
sort
of
you
know
nobody
wants
to
take
the
lead.
So
that's
why
I'm
hoping
that
maybe
we
could
we
could
have
a
coordinated.
H
You
know
set
of
thinking
from
city
tnt
committee
and
then
take
that
to
the
to
the
intergovernmental
council,
as
the
jump
start
that
I
think
you
know
the
chicken
and
the
egg
we
have
county.
We've
got
state,
we've
got
town
of
james
island,
so
we
need
to
have
some
inspiration
that
you
know
has:
has
a
plan
to
promote
and
get
get
agreement
for.
B
Well,
if
I
might
suggest
get
with
mr
benjamin,
I
mean
as
soon
as
you
get
to
intergovernmental
group
and
start
talking
about
safety
on
a
major
thoroughfare.
They'll
probably
get
their
attention,
and
if
we've
got
keith
on
the
lead
on
this,
I
think
that
will
probably
get
some
attention
and
we
can
bring
back
here
all
right.
Any
other
questions
from
mr
benjamin
or
anything
else,
just
really
quickly.
F
We
need
the
owner
of
the
public
right-of-way
to
say
what
is
and
is
impossible
and
then
move
forward
so
for
us
to
expend
funds
on
possibilities
that
might
be
turned
down
right.
I
I
have
a
little
bit
of
discomfort
with
that
right
to
councilmember
jackson's
point
about:
what's
happened
in
the
maybank
corridor
got
to
be
fair
and
say
you
know:
we've
had
a
road
safety
study
that
we
pushed
the
state
t.o.t
to
do
that
they
let
on
you
know,
city
has
requested
multiple
projects
along
there.
F
Some
some
of
them
have
been
funded,
one
in
particular
at
1.2
million.
So
you
know
even
what
we
just
did
on
king
street.
The
benefit
of
that
is,
we
got.
We
had
the
state
dot,
leading
to
bring
all
the
right
people
together
and
say:
hey
here's,
what
we
are
comfortable
with
and
not
comfortable
with
on
our
street,
and
knowing
that
we
have
all
these
different.
F
Not
I
don't
want
to
say
it
like
there's
95
of
them,
it's
some
specific
ones.
You
know
citywide
transportation
plan,
us
17
corridor
study
and
then
some
really
primary
requests
from
stakeholders
in
the
neighborhoods
adjacent
to
those
areas
and
the
medical
district
that
have
said
hey.
These
are
the
things
we
want.
F
Can
we
have
one
place
where
that's
codified
together
so
that
we
understand
what's
permitted
and
not
and
then
go
from
there?
I
think
the
concern
I
have
is
that
similar
to
what
we
just
went
through
with
upper
king
street,
walk
through
that
there
was
a
number
of
things
that
were
said
yes
to,
but
then
it
fell
back
on
the
city
to
say:
hey,
you
find
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
restudy
and
improve
again.
F
I
think
we
need
to
move
towards
what's
implementation
and
that's
the
thing
that
I
fear
that
we'll
get
in
this
room
overall
of
study
and
then
2023
come
around
and
we
we
missed
the
boat,
and
so
I
think,
if
there's
a
way
to
coordinate
together
between
us,
the
state
d.o.t,
the
county,
even
the
cog
and
say,
hey
here's
what
rutledge
needs
to
look
like.
I
think
that
that
would
be
extremely
helpful.