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City of Charleston Committee on Traffic and Transportation 3/8/2021
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A
Thank
you
for
motion.
Don't
have
a
second
any
additions,
deletions
changes
all
in
favor
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
next
on
our
agenda?
Is
approval
of
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
mayor
to
execute
a
memorandum
of
agreement
with
palmetto
railways,
the
south
carolina
department
of
commerce
and
the
south
carolina
reports
authority
regarding
the
navy
base
intermodal
facility
project?
Mr
benjamin.
E
E
Let's
see
here,
okay,
so
this
is
a
list
of
mitigation
projects
or
showing
mitigate
proposed
mitigation
projects.
The
city
had
put
together
some
time
ago.
I
believe
it
was
around
2017
that
all
this
started
and
the
proposed
southern
loop
is,
is
sort
of
designed
to
go
this
way
in
that
little
red
area
right
here.
E
This
transaction
also
importantly
involves
city-owned
property.
The
former
wr
grace
site,
which
is
this
property
highlighted
there.
I've
also
got
the
plat
of
this
property,
which
is
16.464
acres.
We've
been
in
discussions
with
really
commerce
for
palmetto
railways.
For
a
long
time.
My
my
understanding
is
the
ports
authority
somehow
got
involved
in
in
the
discussions,
and
there
was
an
offer
made
basically
paying
the
city
11
point.
Is
it
5-0?
I
apologize.
E
I
don't
remember
off
time
ahead:
11.5
million
dollars
in
satisfaction
of
two
obligations
we
were
trying
to
work
out.
One
is
the
purchase.
The
portion
of
the
wr
grace
site
for
use
of
the
railway
and
the
other
is
for
the
city
to
use,
is
mitigation
for
existing
and
future
impacts
from
the
southern
loop.
E
The
city
is
looking
at
the
mag,
the
we're
we're
visiting
the
magnolia
development
agreement
to
try
to
figure
out
an
alternative
site
and
to
deal
with
that
issue.
One
of
the
ones
we've
been
discussing
is
this
site
up
here,
which
is
about
10
acres,
scpr
or
excuse
me.
The
the
spa
ports
authority
is
looking
at
purchasing
around
acres
of
the
wr
grace
site
which
would
leave.
E
I
don't
know
roughly
what
is
it
13.5
acres
for
us
to
continue
to
use
or
deal
with
so
we're
looking
for
a
new
spot
for
the
public
work
facility,
because
we
don't
think
this
site
is
going
to
hold
it
under
those
circumstances,
and
then
also
we've
got
a
list
of
several
mitigation
projects,
we're
not
locked
into
those
projects.
We
have
discretion
moving
forward
as
to
how
to
use
the
mitigation
monies,
and
what
percentage
of
that
11.5
million
dollars
would
go
to
finding
purchasing
and
constructing
an
alternative
public
works
facility
versus
mitigation
projects.
E
Just
to
give
you
a
history,
the
ports
authority
had
proposed
mitigation
projects
of
4.3
million
dollars
in
2017.
Our
mitigation
projects
were
much
more.
You
know
there
were.
We
had
a
lot
more
projects
than
they
were
in
the
neighborhood
of
like
38
million
dollars
that
we
had
wanted,
and
we
were.
We
were
just
stuck
at
the
four
million
dollars
and
in
us
wanting
a
lot
more
than
that.
E
The
the
general
assembly
is
in
the
process
of
debating
economic
bonds.
That
would
support
the
construction
of
the
southern
loop
in
the
mbif
facility,
and
this
agreement
would
be
contingent
on
that
legislation
being
passed.
If
it's
not
passed,
we
wouldn't
be
giving
up
anything
and
the
ports
authority
would
not
have
any
obligation
to
pay
us
any
money,
but
really
when
things
started.
Moving
is
when
that
that
issue
went
to
the
general
assembly,
and
that's
that's
when
the
ports
authority
moved
a
lot
and
we
got
this
agreement
in
writing.
E
I've
been
working
with
randy
lowell
who's.
The
port
stories
attorney
to
sort
of
get
this
in
a
final
form
with
respect
to
the
purchase.
Obviously,
there's
a
lot
of
details
that
need
to
be
worked
out.
My
intent
at
present
is
to
lock
in
as
much
as
possible
the
obligation
for
the
money
and
what
the
city
is
going
to
give
up
and
a
future
ordinance
would
have
to
specify
the
exact
property
being
given
up
and
address
a
lot
of
the
property
issues
with
that
transfer.
E
Like
the
environmental
issues,
I
don't
think
that'll
be
a
problem,
but
that
this
is
not
something
that
we're
gonna
get
a
check
in
a
month.
This
is
something
where
we're
trying
to
get
the
agreement
of
everyone
locked
in
place,
subject
to
the
approval
of
those
bonds
and
then
move
towards
a
more
specific
process.
Once
that's
done
and
with
that
said,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I'm
sure
there
will
be
several
of
them.
A
C
E
Think
it's
gonna
be
five.
Five
three
is
the
most
recent
I've
gotten
and
I
asked
randy
to
basically
put
me
to
get
me
a
not
to
exceed
acreage
amount
to
be
able
to
convey
to
you
all
on
that
property
and
he
came
back
with
2.53
acres,
we're
the
mayor,
and
I
have
been
discussing
that
since
we
got
it
and
hopefully
much
less.
But
that's
that's
what
we're
looking
at
at
this
point.
C
E
E
I
think
the
goal
right
now,
especially
before
the
bond
legislation
gets
passed,
is
to
lock
everybody
into
a
memorandum
of
agreement
as
to
what's
going
to
happen
once
that
bond
passes
the
concern
being
that
if
it
passes-
and
we
don't
have
something
in
writing-
we
may
not
be
locked
in,
and
so
I
think
that's
that's
really.
Our
primary
focus
right
now.
C
You
know
question
is
that
the
real
estate
committee
that
we'll
be
hearing
in
a
little
while
but
in
terms
of
mitigation
definition
of
mitigation,
are
we?
I
know
it
says
that
we
can
retain
the
soul
discretion
as
to
the
type
and
location,
but
is
there
like
a
state
of
the
art?
You
know
some
sort
of
mitigation
definition
that
we
have
to
follow
in
order
to
decide
where
we're
going
to
use
these
monies
or
exactly
how
I
mean
I.
C
I
know
this
whole
area,
for
example,
is
going
to
be
totally
reworked
in
order
to
accommodate
the
the
low
the
the
rapid
transit
line
and
and
do
we
need.
You
know
like
a
lot
of
overpasses
for
pedestrian
safety,
and
you
know
we
have
the
benefit
of
the
chairman
of
carter
right
here
with
us.
So
I
I
I
don't
know
I
just
feel
like
I.
I
know
that
this
is
jump
on
an
offer
because
it
hasn't
ever
been
this
good.
C
E
I
think
the
problem
is
this:
is
the
best
we're
gonna
get?
I
don't
think
we're
gonna
get
more
than
that.
I
would
love
to
come
to
you
and
say
we
should
dig
in
and
hold
out
for
x
amount
of
money.
There's
a
practical
matter.
I
think
you
know
this
is
this
is
what
we're
gonna
get
or
this
is
the
best
best
deal
we're
gonna
get
without
creating
a
lot
of
enemies
on
a
state
level
and
and
holding
up
the
facility.
You
know,
I
think,
to
people
that
I
think
that's
where
it
is.
C
A
F
Mayor
so
so
the
primary
focus
of
all
our
mitigation
discussions
with
and
over
the
years
has
been
mostly
with
department
of
commerce
and
south
carolina.
Railways
was
all
about
the
impact
on
traffic
and
and
so
we
had
a
a
thorough
study,
an
analysis
done
by
jennifer,
beale
and-
and
it
was
also
reviewed,
with
great
scrutiny
by
south
carolina,
railways
and
and
commerce
and
their
traffic
consultants.
F
So
it
all
centered
around
the
traffic
mitigation.
Now
the
the
the
numbers,
the
big
shift
in
the
numbers
occurred
when
it
was
apparent
that
the
preference
for
low
country
rapid
transit
was
on
the
king
street
side
rather
than
the
meeting
street
side.
So
so
that
made
a
huge
difference.
In
my
regard
and
as
as
chip
mentioned,
we
we've
kind
of
been
stuck
with
around
the
four
million
dollar
range
with
them
for
years.
F
But
you
got
to
consider
that
part
of
our
that
side
of
our
property
includes
a
drainage,
easement
and-
and
I
I
believe,
we'll
do
our
best
to
work
out
a
a
deal
when
we
actually
transfer
the
property
to
maintain
some
rights
for
for
stormwater
and
for
for
dealing
with
water.
There's
amusement
there
already,
so
they
got
to
deal
with
it.
F
F
So
that's
why,
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
was
a
little
stubborn
about.
They
had
wanted
me
us
to
sign
off
on
this
three
years
ago
and-
and
I
never
would
bring
it
forward
because
I
didn't
think
we
really
had
adequate
coverage
to
do
much
of
what
was
needed
and
and
given
the
fact
that
rapid
transit
is
out
of
the
way.
I
think
this
is
a
solid
proposal
for
our
citizens.
A
A
Mayor
when
we
went
through
this
and
jennifer
bill
did
her
study
and
when
it
was
meeting
street,
not
king
street
for
lcrt,
as
I
recall,
didn't
she
show
it
at
rush
hour.
The
projected
backups
of
something
like
6
000
feet.
I
mean
it
was
some
crazy
number
that
you
come
up
with
so
on
this
map.
Chip,
where's
king
street,
well.
A
F
A
Hang
on
hang
on
hang
on,
hang
on
not
quite
finished
here,
yet,
okay,
so
all
right,
I
see
so
that
that
red
line
chip,
that's
on
the
western
side,
is
to
the
east
of
the
entire
king
street
right
away,
there's
room
there
both
for
the
road
and
whatever
we've
got
on
either
side
for
utilities
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
Yes,
sir
okay,
we.
F
Absolutely
so
you
see
well,
this
is
not
so
much
for
bipad
but
see
like
at
number
five
there
yeah
that
would
be
a
new
crossing
of
the
railroad
tracks
between
king
and
meeting
just
south
of
where
the
southern
loop
crosses
meetings.
So,
like
I
said,
if
you
were
coming
up
meeting
street,
you
could
see
that
big
train
in
front
of
you.
You
could
just
take
a
left
and
cut
on
over
to
king
street
and
and
avoid
it
and
likewise,
if
you,
if
you
head
north,
a
little
bit
their
chip.
A
So
it
seems
like
one
of
the
things
we
should
put
in
the
mitigation
plan
is
some
kind
of
signage
that
alerts
people
that
the
train
is
coming,
so
they
don't
have
to
go
up
u-turn
to
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
I
one
of
the
things
that
surprised
me
as
I've
learned
about
what's
going
on
at
the
port
as
they
expand
the
projection
for
some
of
the
trains
that
are
coming
into
that
southern
access.
It's
going
to
be
15
000
feet
long
trains
running
at
10
miles
an
hour.
A
A
F
E
Yes,
they
they
do,
and
I
believe
that
all
it
sort
of
all
arose
out
of
the
noise.
It
redevelopment
authority
agreement.
They
were
in
a
much
different
situation
than
we
are
because
of
the
they
had
a
pre-existing
sort
of
mou,
and
there
was
all
that
litigation
ensued
and
there
was.
There
was
a
fairly
long
settlement
agreement
involving
that
litigation,
but
lots
of
property
swaps.
E
F
Look
chairman,
I
respect.
I
don't
have
the
agenda
in
front
of
me.
It
seems
to
me
that
the
real
estate
committee
would
technically
make
that
approval
in
that
right
chip,
but
we
said
there
were
so
many
transportation
related
pieces
of
the
puzzle.
Here
with
the
mitigation
we
thought
it
appropriate
to
bring
forth
to
both
committees.
A
E
C
D
A
A
E
A
E
That
is
my
understanding.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
here
knows
more
about
it.
That
is
my
understanding
of
the
plan.
Yes,
it's
interesting
because
the
railroad
law
is
applied
differently
to
ca,
csx
and
norfolk,
southern
they
do
palmetto
railways
and
they
probably
did
it
the
right
way
in
order
to
enjoy
the
most
benefit
out
of
the
out
of
state
laws.
E
E
A
E
Whatever
that
means,
but
it's
required,
we
try
to
give
you
know
representing
developers
in
the
past
maximum
flexibility
and
maximum
predictability.
But
yes,
it's
I
mean
it's
broadly
worded
and
flexible
as
to
how
we
can
use
it
for
mitigation,
but
it's
got
to
be
used
for
mitigation
or
replacement
facilities
for
associated
with
the
public
work
facility.
So
those
are
the
two.
A
Dollars
all
right
any
further
discussion
on
the
motion
that
has
been
properly
seconded
all
in
favor
all
right,
all
right,
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
go
forward
and
prosper,
this
one
will
be
interesting.
Let
me
see
what
real
estate
does
with
it
too
right
next
on
our
agenda.
Mr
benjamin
is
a
director's
update.
D
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
all
for
the
time
just
wanted
to
go
through
a
few
things.
Please
feel
free
to
stop
me
or
interrupt
me
as
nippy
wanted
to
let
you
all
know.
You
know
we
came
to
you
not
too
long
ago
regarding
the
I-26
lease
agreement
with
scdot
and
reported
that
we
had
figured
out
how
to
navigate
with
scdot
in
the
appropriate
language.
D
We
found
out
from
there
that
they
needed
to
run
that
language
past
the
federal
highway
administration
and
so
navigated
that
got
the
cosign
from
the
federal
highway
administration
as
well,
and
that
document
is
sitting
on
the
secretary's
desk
with
the
mayor's
signature
already,
and
so
we
are
rounding
the
bend
with
having
that
agreement
in
place.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
that
moving
forward,
as
you
all
probably
already
have
seen,
the
maybanking
river
intersection
is
up
and
running.
D
That
was
a
county
project,
but
that's
a
signal
that
we're
going
to
have
to
operate
and
maintain,
and
so
we
were
involved
in
that
piece
and
getting
that
moving.
I
got
a
couple
of
questions
about
the
flashing,
yellow
arrows
at
farm
field
and
also
at
lockwood
and
calhoun.
We're
still
going
back
and
forth
with
sdlt,
with
those
studies
and
waiting
on
dlt
to
make
a
final
review
of
those
to
get
back
to
it.
So
we
can
get
those
two
locations
appropriately
installed
meeting
in
brigade.
D
If
you
have
not
been
out
there,
please
take
a
look.
It's
it's
getting
finished
up
still
have
some
thermal
to
do
some
green
paint
to
do,
but
that
project
is
rounding.
The
band
we're
really
excited
about
that
project
and
the
partnership
there,
with
the
state
d.o.t
again
an
opportunity
that
we
took
to
take
advantage
of
the
state
dot's
resurfacing
process,
but
then
also
you
are
allowing
us
to
utilize
tif
dollars
to
be
able
to
make
that
project
happen.
D
I
know
these
signalized
intersections
seem
like
they
take
forever,
but
when
you
want
decorated,
mast,
arms,
they're,
customized,
for
every
single
intersection,
so
that
alone
takes
time,
but
just
glad
about
all
the
work
there.
I
will
say-
and-
and
this
is
a
shout
out
to
troy
our
signals
manager-
that
entire
project
was
done
by
both
a
minority
owned
business
and
a
women-owned
business.
D
My
own
business
did
the
entire
construction
of
the
signal,
a
woman
owned
business
handled
all
the
sidewalking
and
other
concrete
work
there,
and
so
just
really
excited
about
that
project.
Moving
forward,
we
actually
I'm
trying
to
get
verification,
so
I
don't
want
to
give
numbers
at
the
moment,
but
it
looks
like
we
actually.
Amy
will
be
under
budget
for
that
for
that
intersection
as
well.
The
project
700
crosswalks,
just
as
a
reminder,
another
partnership
with
scdot
of
trying
to
improve
signalized
intersections
for
pedestrian
safety.
D
D
Again,
the
partnership
we
pay
for
the
signal
plan,
scdot
district
six
takes
on
the
responsibility
of
all
of
the
materials
and
installations
so
coming
at
vanderhorst
coming
at
radcliffe
coming
at
morris
and
then
rutledge
at
cleveland
are
the
four
other
intersections
that
we're
doing.
If
you
all
have
ideas
about
intersections
that
have
standard
materials,
because
that's
the
only
way
we've
been
able
to
work
with
d.o.t
at
those
places
that
may
not
have
pedestrian
signals
may
not
have
ada.
D
Compliance
may
not
have
the
appropriate
crosswalks,
high-res,
crosswalks
and
otherwise,
and
you
want
us
to
work
with
d.o.t
on
those.
Please
let
us
know
we
want
to
continue
that
partnership
with
them
and
taking
advantage
of
their
maintenance
dollars,
b's
ferry
and
sanders
road
intersection
also
supposed
to
be
signalized.
D
We
have
reviewed
those
signal
plans,
that's
a
county
project,
but
again
another
intersection.
We
would
have
to
maintain
and
operate.
We
were
told
just
this
afternoon
that
they
are
trying
to
move
swiftly
to
bid
that
project
out
this
year.
Again,
fabricating
of
the
signals
all
that
stuff
so
you're
still
talking
about
a
12
to
18
month
process,
hey.
D
I
got
to
go
back
with
the
through
the
signal
plans,
but
we'll
be
working
to
make
sure
that
beast
ferry
is
all
those
lights
are
all
coordinated,
and
otherwise
you
know
that
that's
part
of
our
responsibility
there
and
I
know
that's
one
of
the
concerns
there
and
and
to
be
fair.
Also,
the
balance
of
folks
saying,
don't
take
away
any
signal
in
the
area,
but
also
keep
the
traffic
moving
right.
So
I
am
familiar
with
that
argument,
so
we'll
try
to
make
sure
we
do
that
appropriate
balance.
D
I
reported
this
out
to
some
of
you
all
via
email,
but
just
so
I'm
saying
it
on
the
record
at
tnt.
We
also
did
complete
the
reviews
for
river
at
fenwick
hall,
a
signalized
intersection
as
well.
That
also
is
county
project,
a
part
of
the
northern
pitchfork
but
again
in
a
section
that
we
will
have
to
maintain
and
operate,
and
so
we've
submitted
that
to
them
and
and
and
are
good
to
go
on
our
side
parking.
D
You
know
don't
hear
me
talk
about
that
enough,
but
just
giving
you
the
heads
up
that
this
year
we
took
on
the
dispatch
that
used
to
be
at
the
county.
All
those
staff
now
have
all
been
relocated
to
their
new
brand
new
office.
I'm
on
the
third
floor,
add
to
george,
and
so
all
of
our
parking
enforcement
entities
are
all
together
and
so
excited
about
them.
Getting
there.
D
We
did
start
the
probably
dreaded
but
anticipated
a
golf
cart
enforcement
last
week,
so
we've
been
on
top
of
that,
but
only
two
golf
carts
have
been
cited
since
our
our
start
of
that.
I
know
some
folk
were
concerned
about
that,
but
we
want
compliance
more
though.
So
then
china
going
out
trying
to
find
something
so.
A
Keith,
I'm
just
going
to
tell
you
from
my
perspective
at
district
date
and
people
downtown
they
like
it,
so
it's
not
dreaded
at
all.
They
actually
have
been
thankful
for
it,
and
a
bunch
of
people
called
up
to
ask
how
they
get
registered
and
all
that.
So
I
I've
not
heard
any
negative
backlash
at
all.
D
Just
last
week
I
signed
off
on
27
locations
that
are
also
going
to
get
the
solar
lighting
at
locations
that
currently
aren't
sheltered
but
need
to
have
appropriate
lighting,
and
then
also,
if
you
all
remember,
we
and
council
member
chair
knows,
we've
been
doing
the
kova
testing
at
mary
street
station
since
the
beginning
of
february,
and
as
of
last
week,
over
830
folk
have
been
serviced
just
at
the
mary
street
transit
location,
so
just
glad
about
expanding
that
access
as
much
as
possible
there,
too.
So
another.
A
D
D
What
they
usually
do,
as
as-
and
I
sent
this
out
to
you
all
for
last
year-
what
they
usually
do
at
the
same
time
as
they
send
out
the
tst
awardings
many
of
those
that
we
get
also
get
an
updated
list
of
the
roads
that
have
been
identified
in
that
sales
tax
process
as
well.
Keep
in
mind
too,
I
think
I
believe
I
set
that
up
like
a
recent.
You
have
the
ctc
gas
tax
money
as
well.
That
goes
towards
some
resurfacings,
but
yeah.
D
A
Do
okay,
lots
of
cooking?
I
did
learn
today
by
the
way,
if
anybody
asked
from
mr
summerville
that
if
you
have
a
properly
registered
golf
cart,
you
can
still
within
the
rules
and
parameters
are
out
there
get
a
parking
sticker
in
the
parking
districts
if
you
live
within
the
parking
districts.
For
your
golf
cart,
so
learn
some
about
that.
Today,
too,.