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City of Charleston Committee on Traffic and Transportation 1/24/2021
B
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
go
ahead
and
proceed
so
welcome
everyone
to
the
january
24th
2022
meeting
on
the
committee
on
traffic
and
transportation
for
the
city
of
charleston.
B
B
We
will
now
move
to
the
public
hearing
portion
of
the
meeting,
I'm
just
going
to
lay
some
groundwork
before
we
get
started
about
how
this
process
works.
So
the
committee
is
participating
today
in
a
public
hearing
regarding
the
status
of
a
portion
of
frampton
street
lying
between
inverness,
drive
and
harbor
v
road
and
a
portion
of
fairway
drive
lying
between
burning
tree
road
and
harbor
view
road.
Both
of
these
sections
lie
within
the
country
club,
2,
subdivision
of
james
island.
B
In
the
interest
of
clarity
as
chairman
of
this
committee,
the
process
for
the
hearing
will
go
as
follows.
Mr
daniel
will
be
allotted
10
minutes
to
present
his
position
to
the
committee.
As
the
person
who
has
requested
this
hearing,
the
city
will
be
allotted
10
minutes
to
present
its
position
to
the
committee.
B
After
the
presentation
by
both
parties,
the
committee
will
be
allowed
to
ask
specific
questions
of
either
party.
We
will
then
allow
10
minutes
from
members
of
the
public
to
provide
any
comments
to
the
committee.
Depending
on
the
number
of
those
who
have
signed
up,
we
will
determine
how
much
time
each
person
will
be
allowed
to
speak
following
this
process.
B
So
all
of
that
being
said,
I
would
like
to
turn
it
over
to
mr
daniel
and
I
have
my
clock
here
on
my
phone.
You
have
10
minutes
to
begin
your
portion
of
your
presentation.
A
A
D
E
D
Thank
you
the
reason
he
said.
That
is
because
two
multiple
people
have
said:
I'm
not
qualified
to
speak
because
I
haven't
lived
here
long
enough,
I'm
not
sure
when
the
long
enough
counts,
but
that
that
should
answer
that
question
all
right.
So
I'm
gonna
give
you
a
walking
presentation.
So
can
everybody
hear
me
again?
D
D
D
D
D
I'm
not
super
sure
who
made
that
fence,
but
you
can't
disturb
the
miller
road.
Now,
let's
go
and
what
they're
there
my
side,
the
neighborhood
looks
like
all
those
cars
all
that
traffic
everybody
come
through.
Now,
let's
look
on
this
side
and
see
how
it's
going
oh
sweet.
This
looks
great.
Then
we've
got
no
standing
or
parking
signs
now,
allegedly
mr
roger
said
he
put
those
up
there,
because
people
were
jumping
blind.
They
weren't
jumping
the
line.
This
was
an
access
street
when
I
was
a
kid
to
get
over
to
the
school
look
at
this.
D
Nobody
here,
one
lady
walking
the
dog.
You
don't
see
anybody
walking
a
dog
on
the
other
side
of
the
street,
but
once
as
I
stated
earlier,
it
takes
title
57
requirements.
I've
got
videos
that
people
playing
in
the
street
in
the
morning
when
the
other
roads
are
closed.
There's
a
gate
over
here
that
was
supposed
to
be
used
to
allow
people
in
and
out
of
school,
but
nobody's
there.
They
don't
they
sh,
they
shut
it
down
when
they
close
off
their
street.
D
This
is
what
their
intention
is.
This
is
the
intent
of
closing
the
roads
so
that
it
will
look
like
this.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with.
Safety.
Has
nothing
to
do
with
property.
Values
has
nothing
to
do
with
cutting
through,
because
if
you
want
to
cut
through,
all
you
got
to
do
is
drive
in,
go
one
block
and
you're
right
back
where
you
were
now.
So
if
anybody
thinks
that
this
is
equal,
this
street
versus
my
street,
then
we
have
a
difference
of
opinion.
D
I've
got
some
video
that
I'm
going
to
submit
and
some
comments
to
smith,
but
once
again
you
have
to
meet
the
requirements
of
the
law.
The
law.
It's
not
majority
rules,
it's
the
best.
Centers
of
all.
We
don't
have
a
homeowners
association.
No
one
can
claim
this
land
as
common
land
to
put
a
sign
on
it.
That's
very
important.
D
Back
to
the
right
last
direction
and
I'll
be
done
so
I've
got
this
one
other
block
to
walk.
Are
there
any
questions
about
anybody
wants
to
see
what
the
difference
between
the
two
streets
are?
I
don't
think
so
and
once
again
I
do
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
not
supposed
to
park
within
10
feet
of
a
crosswalk,
see
that
happens.
I've
been
told
these
cars
are
moving
when
I
submit
photos.
So
that's
why
I
said
all
right.
D
Well,
let
me
just
take
a
video
of
it
so
to
get
to
the
cut
through
you
start
at
that.
Stop
sign
come
in
on
frampton,
that's
what
you're!
Looking
at
I
submitted
maps
return
right
on
burning
tree,
which
is
the
road
that
we're
coming
up
on
and
once
you
hit
burning
tree,
all
you
have
to
do
is
go
one
block
one
block
and
you're
right
back
where
you
were
so.
I
don't
know
why
anybody's
talking
about
the
cut
through
by
the
way
three
times
already,
people
have
gone
the
wrong
way.
D
B
You
still
have
four
minutes
for
your
presentation.
If
you
would
like
to
continue
to
proceed.
D
B
I
was
saying
I
was
just
turning
the
timer
off
so
that
it
doesn't
start
chirping
on
me.
So
thank
you,
mr
daniel,
for
your
presentation.
I'd
now
like
to
turn
it
over
to
the
city
and
I'm
not
sure
if
chip
or
robbie
will
be
leading
us
off
but
same
for
y'all
for
you.
For
you,
gentlemen,
the
city
will
have
ten
minutes
to
present.
G
Okay,
I'll
go
and
start.
This
is
chip
mcqueeny
and
just
you
know,
to
clarify.
I'm
really
here
to
advise
the
committee
not
advocate
a
position
one
way
or
another.
I
was
contacted
about
this
case.
I
want
to
say
in
november
2020
and
I
think
I
sent
mr
daniel
an
email
in
december
of
2020
kind
of
laying
out
my
findings
and
I
I
basically
just
researched
the
history
of
the
subdivision
and
the
specific
property
and
I'll
I'll
just
go
through
that.
G
If
I
can
share
my
screen,
the
so
in
1965,
this
portion
of
country
club
2
was
subdivided.
You
see
frampton
street,
and
this
is
fairway
drive,
which
are
the
two
kind
of
areas
we're
here
to
talk
about
right
here.
There's
a
dedication
statement
that
the
rights
of
way
and
streets
are
being
dedicated
to
the
public,
to
the
use
of
the
public
right
here
is
where
his
county
council
approved
the
plat
and
back
in
at
this
time.
G
Typically
approving
a
plat
nowadays
doesn't
mean
you've
accepted
the
rights
of
way
back
at
this
time.
It
is
a
little
more
clear
that
you
were
accepting
the
rights
of
way.
Mr
daniel's
lot
is
here,
and
I
think
since
this
time
this
is
a
this
has
been
taken
to
widen
arbor
view
and
like
a
300
foot
square
there,
a
square
foot
area
here
has
been
taken
by
scdot,
both
mr
daniels.
As
I
understand
it,
do
own
the
property.
G
G
This
is
just
the
property
tax
card
which
is
available
online
from
the
county,
showing
that
the
developer
conveyed
mr
daniel's
lot
in
1967,
mr
daniel
actually
became
the
owner
of
the
lot.
The
elder
mr
daniel
in
1968
and
again
became
the
solo
owner
in
1998.
I
think
until
early
2021,
when
he
conveyed
it
to
both
himself
and
mr
tony
daniel
and
two
other
members
of
the
daniel
family.
G
We
go
to
the
next
slide.
This
is
a
newspaper
article
from
1967
that
just
it's
an
ordinance
passed
by
county
council.
This
was
in
the
county
at
the
time
it
mentions
traffic
improvements.
They
were
making
on
frampton
street
and
fairway
drive.
That's
just
to
indicate.
G
As
a
dedicated
street
for
the
county
in
1974
in
april,
this
area
was
annexed
into
the
city
of
charleston,
which
basically
means
the
city
becomes
responsible
or
maintains
the
streets
at
that
time
and
has
control
over
this
dedicated
public
rights
away
in
this
is
the
map
kind
of
showing
attached
to
the
annexation
ordinance,
and
you
can
see
the
portion
of
brampton
street
mr
daniels
lot
fairway
drive
where
it
connects
to
harborview,
etc.
G
G
Basically,
both
committees
considered
a
plan
that
was
developed
by
oh
where's,
the
name
harold,
oh,
give
me
his
name.
Sorry.
G
I
can't
find
our
the
city's
director
of
traffic
and
transportation
at
the
time
and
it's
a
commonly
known
name.
I
just
can't
find
it
on
my
notes
right
now.
In
any
event,
both
committees
sort
of
recommended
that
they
adopt
the
plan.
At
that
time,
the
traffic
city's
department
of
traffic
can
plan
to
do
cul-de-sacs,
basically
right
where
you
go
past,
the
school's
entrance
where
mr
daniel
was
walking
at
frampton
street
and
then
a
cul-de-sac
at
the
end
of
fairway
drive
before
it
hits
harbor
view
road.
G
What
essentially
happened
is
that
city
council
adopted
the
reports
and
set
a
public
hearing
for
later
to
determine
how
to
well
the
public
hearing
actually
is
stated.
These
are
the
6
15
1976
minutes.
G
G
So
this
was
posted
in
the
post
and
courier
in
the
evening
or
the
evening
post
and
the
news
and
courier
at
the
before
the
hearing,
and
then
they
held
a
public
hearing
on
it
during
the
public
hearing
and
the
minutes
are
here
the
residents
from
the
neighborhood.
I
think
there
were
20
people
who
supported
the
sort
of
altered
plan.
It's
called
a
traffic
diversion
plan
at
the
time
there
was
one
person
from
heathwood
subdivision
that
did
not
support
the
plan
and
the
primary
issue
was
public
safety.
G
G
I
think
up
to
folly
folly
road
in
order
to
escape
some
of
the
traffic
lights
in
the
area
there
was
later
on
in
the
meeting
after
the
public
hearing
they
sort
of
had
the
general
discussion
council
member
aider
suggested
that
they
blocked
fairway
drive
at
the
entrance
to
harborview
road
and
frampton
street
at
the
entrance
to
harborview
middle
school,
which
was
it
was
discussed
with
the
traffic
director
and
councilmember
stevens
made
a
motion.
G
He
mentions
barricading
it
by
city
forces
after
the
matter
has
been
reviewed
by
corporation
council
and
the
minutes
of
council
state.
The
road
is
not
being
closed
or
abandoned,
but
barricaded
the
motion
passed
unanimously,
closed
or
abandoned
is
sort
of
a
term
of
art
in
the
legal
world
for
roads.
If
the
city
were
to
vote
to
close
and
abandon
these
roads
at
the
time
the
city
probably
has
an
easement.
G
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
deed
into
the
county,
but
essentially
the
adjacent
of
budding
owners
would
own
well,
they
do
own
to
the
center
line,
assuming
it's
just
an
easement
of
both
those
areas.
But
it's
subject
to
the
city's
easement.
If
the
city
closes
and
abandons
takes
action
close
and
abandon
those
two
areas,
then
title
remains
the
same
and
the
budding
owners
still
own
the
center
line
of
the
street,
but
the
city
has
no
more
right
title
or
interest,
so
it
can't
do
anything
with
it
in
the
future.
G
You
know
I've
read
through
this
a
few
times
and
I
think
mr
daniel
has
pointed
out
several
definitions
of
barricaded.
You
know
I've
looked
at,
you
know
the
overhead
aerials
and
I've
kind
of
done.
The
street
level
view
I've
not
gotten
over
there.
I
hope
to
have
had
a
chance,
and
you
know
I
think
it's
blocked.
G
I
don't
think
it's.
I
think
the
primary
point
here
is
it
would
not
be
permanently
closed
and
abandoned
by
the
city
and
it
would
be
cut
off
the
through
traffic.
The
other
thing
to
understand-
and
this
is
my
core
attempt
at
drawing
it,
but
this
is
a
paved
area
of
the
street,
the
sidewalks
and
then
the
right-of-way
area.
The
term
street
is
actually
the
whole
thing.
Right-Of-Way
line,
right-of-way
line,
not
just
the
paved
area.
The
other
thing
that
happened
is
the
city.
G
Council
was
maintaining,
at
least
in
the
in
the
for
frampton
street,
there's
sort
of
a
walking
path
through
there,
which
that
does
happen
in
the
city
and
elsewhere,
where
people
sort
of
convert
it
temporarily
or
otherwise,
to
a
a
walking
path.
It
essentially
becomes
a
big
sidewalk
but
grown
over
the
you
know
this
is
the
2001
gis
map
from
the
county,
and
it
shows
that
frampton
street
and.
G
Fairway
drive
are
both
in
the
same
condition.
They
are
essentially
the
same
condition
they
are
now.
If
you
look
at
the
overhead
views
in
2021,
I
think
of
the
most
recent.
It's
it's
the
same
thing
both
these
folks
here
both
have
dry
wood,
driveways
coming
out,
fairway
drive
and
it's
it's
a
weird
situation
too.
You
know
one
of
the
things
I
noticed
very
early
on.
G
G
B
G
I
should
have
paid
for
more
time.
He
was
council
member
of
the
times.
B
Thank
you
for
that
chip,
so
I
will
open
it
up
to
members
of
the
committee
and
I'll
start
with
my
vice
chair
council
member
seekings.
If
you
would
like
to
ask
any
questions,
now
is
your
time.
F
B
So
we
can
do
that,
like
I
said
after,
like
what
I
had
read
out
at
the
beginning,
after
the
presentation
by
both
parties,
the
committee
would
be
allowed
to
ask
any
specific
questions
of
either
party,
just
as
a
matter
of
how
it
relates
to
the
presentations.
D
I'm
asking
that
the
trees
comport
to
the
city
code
and
that
the
roadblocks
be
taken
down
because
they're
illegal
they
didn't
go
through
the
process,
as
was
mentioned.
Not
only
does
it
have
to
have
a
vote
by
city
council,
councilman
stevens
said
specifically
it
wasn't
and
that
we
are
not
closing
the
roads
or
abandoning
not
closing
and
abandoning
closing
stop
or
abandoning
so
the
roads
are
definitely
closed
and
then
the
second
thing
is,
I
showed
you
all
the
traffic
and
then
I
showed
you
the
traffic
on
uberness.
There
is
no
traffic
on
everness.
D
As
a
matter
of
fact,
thank.
B
C
So
I
have
a
question
for
for
mr
mcqueeny
and
he's
looked
at
some
detail.
He
didn't
quite
get
finished
about
the
action
that
council
took
how
many
years
ago
was
25
30
years
ago.
C
Right
back
in
1976,
so
quite
a
few
years
ago-
and
you
know
I
guess,
there's
this
distinction
between
barricading
and
closing
and
abandoning-
and
I
certainly
it
would
appear
to
me
that
the
city
council
and
the
mayor
at
that
time
did
not
have
any
intention
of
giving
up
legal
ownership
of
the
street
which
which
they
would
been
subject
to
if
they
had
quote
legally
closed
and
abandoned
the
street,
but
instead
they
barricaded
the
street.
C
But
but
I,
with
with
all
respect,
I
hear
on
numerous
occasions,
mr
daniel
saying
that
we
that
this
was
an
illegal
action
in
your
legal
opinion.
Is
that
true
did
did
council
legally
barricade.
The
street
is,
is
what
has
happened
here.
A
legal
action
of
council.
G
I
I
think
it
was
legal,
I
think,
there's
there's
a
whole
other
statute,
527
150,
that
I
cited,
I
think
in
the
public
hearing
notice
that
allows
city
council
the
ability
to
not
just
close
but
open,
alter
or
widen.
I
think
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
altering
they
intended
to
alter
if
they
had
abandoned.
Clearly,
we
wouldn't
have
any
more
interest.
H
Hey
carl,
I'm
so
sorry,
it's
caroline
parker,
so
you
you
think
it
was
not
legal
or
you.
It
was
not.
It
was
legal.
Can
you
clearly.
G
G
H
I
think
I
missed
a
little
of
my
after
mike's
question.
What
is
he
had
a
great
question
and
I
think
a
little
bit
cut
out
on
my
end.
What
is
what
is
being
sought
today?
Again,
that's
mine,
if
it
on
my
end,
it
cut
out,
but.
D
What
are
focused
relief
from
all
the
traffic?
That's
going
on
outside
that?
I
showed
you
on
the
video
right
now
the
entire
neighborhood
drives
through
our
block.
We
don't.
We
don't
have
quiet
enjoyment
of
our
house
and
I
would
still
dispute
that
title.
57
not
only
has
a
couple
requirements.
One
of
the
requirements
is
advertised
for
three
times.
Second,
is
notification
of
all
the
budding
orders
and
it
doesn't
say
that
if
we
decide
to
open
or
close,
they
didn't
even
meet
the
minimum
threshold
requirements
to
advertise.
D
What
was
going
on
so
I
don't
know
how
you
can
say
it's
a
legal
action
if
there's
a
list
of
prerequisites
and
none
of
the
prerequisites
were
met
and
once
again
I
still
dispute
what
the
city
council
stephen
said.
He
said
we're
not
closing
our
roads.
I
know
they
have
the
authority
to
do
it,
but
did
they
use
that
authority?
And
the
answer
is
no,
they
said
we're
not
closing
the
roads
and
those
roads
are
coming.
F
F
B
Definitely
not,
but-
and
thank
you
for
that,
if
there's
no
further
questions,
I'd
like
to
move
to
the
public
comment
portion
of
the
public
hearing
and
jennifer,
I'm
going
to
assume
people
have
signed
up
to
speak.
B
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
so
let's
do
one
minute
for
each
person
that
signed
up.
D
See
well,
I've
already
taken
my
time,
but,
as
you
can
see,
there's
traffic
outside
my
house.
It
is
unfair
to
have
the
entire
neighborhoods
traffic
coming
in
front
of
my
house.
It's
unsafe.
It's
killed
our
property
values,
it's
going
to
be
terribly
hard
to
sell
the
house
and
everybody
else
in
the
neighborhood,
as
I
showed
they
have
empty
streets.
I
saw
mrs
haygood
say
that
she
had
no
problem
getting
in
and
getting
out.
The
only
way
I
can
say
she
gets
in
and
out
is
golden's
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
road.
D
I
mean
there's
traffic
blocking
the
street
right
now
I
can
see
it.
I
walked
down
the
street
and
showed
you
it's
impossible
to
say
I
can
go
in
and
out
unfettered
and
I
don't
know
why
we
should
bear
the
brunt
of
what
the
neighborhood
enjoys
so
that
they
can
have
nice
quiet
streets,
and
I
don't
know
who
put
mr
rogers
in
charge
of
moving
traffic
and
posting
the
signs.
D
I
Yes,
there
is
constant
traffic
in
and
out
of
frampton
and
burning
tree
from
the
entire
neighborhood.
Our
air
is
polluted
from
car
exhaust
day
and
night
and
there's
noise
that
other
residents
do
not
have
to
face,
and
it
is
not
safe
for
the
children
and
grandchildren
on
our
street
to
play.
The
neighborhood
was
designed
to
have
two
access
roads
to
harbor
view
the
residents
of
the
neighborhood
pass
by
what
is
supposed
to
be
an
open,
easement
road
on
fairway.
I
I
J
Thank
you
all
for
letting
us
speak
today.
I
think
there's
two
sides
of
this
story.
One
of
the
I'm
head
of
the
civic
association
in
this
neighborhood,
of
which
mr
daniel
has
not
chosen
to
participate
in
there's
a
couple
facts
here
that
I
think
that
he's
leaving
out
one
is:
we've
got,
there's
95
lots
in
this.
This
neighborhood
93
homes
of
those
you've
got
95
percent
of
them,
97
either
wrote
in
or
emailed
or
have
signed
affidavits
against
this,
the
only
people
you're
hearing
from
are
tony
daniel.
J
Secondly,
their
ross
appel-
and
I
are
not
friends
mr
daniel
comes
forward.
I
like
him,
I
think,
he's
a
good
council
member,
but
he
keeps
saying
we're
in
collusion.
We
are
not.
That
is
not
the
situation.
Lastly,
what
they're
suggesting
is
not
going
to
help
the
traffic
in
this
neighborhood
and
by
the
way,
the
school's
only
open,
180
days
a
year
185
days,
he
is
not
affected
by
that
traffic,
but
he
wants
to
put
this
on
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood.
J
A
K
One
of
the
main
reasons
we
bought
the
house
was
because
it
was
blocked
and
set
back
from
harbor
view
road,
so
the
loss
of
privacy
is
one
thing,
but
that
is
minor
compared
to
the
safety
threat
that
we
would
worry
about
being
posed
to
our
children,
our
neighbors
children.
Should
this
proposal
be
adopted
once
these
roads
are
connected,
our
neighborhood
will
now
be
a
cut
through
for
all
traffic.
Looking
for
a
shortcut
from
harbor
view
to
folly
road
on
inverness
alone,
there
are
10
children
all
under
the
ages
of
six
years
old.
K
That
would
now
be
at
risk
of
speeding
cars
trying
to
beat
the
stop
light
from
one
road
to
the
other,
and
that's
only
compounded
by
the
fact
that
mr
daniels
did
not
say
this,
but
inverness
and
no
other
streets
in
the
neighborhood
except
frampton
have
a
sidewalk.
Our
streets
do
not
have
sidewalks,
so
that
would
only
make
this
more
of
a
dangerous
proposal
to
be
adopted.
We
are
also
harborview
elementary
school
parents
and
our
children
use
that
cut
through
that
he
walked
through.
Thank
you.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
all
for
for
letting
us
speak.
I
agree
with
with
mr
mcqueen's
assessment
of
what
happened
back
when,
because
that
was
a
long
time
ago.
I've
lived
there
for
25
plus
years.
Streets
have
always
sort
of
remained
the
same.
During
that
time,
we
are
opposed,
along
with
most
of
the
other,
nearly
all
of
the
other
country
club
2
residents
to
this
these
roads
being
reopened.
It
is,
they
will,
as
worth
says,
they
will
become
a
cut
through
street
and
for
good
or
bad
we've
all
dealt
with
the
school
traffic.
F
For
many
years
my
wife
got
in
a
bad
accident
there.
At
some
point,
we've
tried
to
address
it
with
the
school.
The
school
district
is
very
difficult
to
deal
with,
but
we
we
just
try
to
do
our
best
with
what's
there.
Thank
you.
E
Good
afternoon,
thank
you
for
having
me
I'm
a
24-year
resident
of
this
neighborhood
and
I
live
on
burning
tree
between
trampoline
and
between
fairway,
something
that
a
lot
of
folks
are
not
mentioning
here
is
that
there
are
nine
houses
that
are
greatly
impacted
by
this
traffic
of
those
nine
houses.
Nine
senior
citizens
live
within
their
block.
There
are
approximately
five
young
children
on
that
block.
E
The
residents
of
this
neighborhood
speed
through
this
block,
as
if
there
was
some
form
of
a
drag
strip,
disregard
for
any
kind
of
signage
or
any
kind
of
regard
for
other
neighbors.
One
of
the
things
is
that
we're
also
forgetting
here
is
that
emergency
vehicles
cannot
turn
and
or
get
into
this
neighborhood,
even
when
there
is
no
traffic,
it's
very
difficult
for
a
fire
truck
to
even
turn
into
its
lane.
I
Yes,
thank
you
all
for
listening
us
to
us
today.
I
echo
the
sentiments
of
99
of
the
neighbors
that
reopening
these
entrance
ways
both
at
inverness
and
at
fairway,
would
be
a
huge
detriment
to
the
neighborhood
as
a
whole.
As
many
have
mentioned,
it
would
truly
make
our
neighborhood
a
racetrack
to
avoid
the
harborview
and
folly
road
intersection.
I
I
Dr
daniels,
to
my
knowledge,
never
complained
about
this
prior
to
18
months
ago,
so
it's
something
that
we
all
live
with
getting
in
and
out
of
the
neighborhood,
but
again
it's
for
about
20
minutes
twice
a
day
for
180
days
a
year.
It
is
not
a
huge
inconvenience
to
anyone,
but
opening
these,
these
reopening
would
be
a
travesty.
D
Yes,
and
basically,
what
he
was
saying
is
that
there's
already
a
cut
through,
I
don't
know
why
everybody
talks
about
a
new
cut-through
is
gonna,
be
so
dangerous.
You
only
have
to
go
one
block,
they
never
shut
off
the
cut
through
it.
The
intention
was
to
move
all
the
traffic
off
the
road.
I
love
the
fact
that
ms
haygood
says:
oh
it's
just
a
minor
inconvenience,
it's
not
an
inconvenience
to
her
because
she
can
go
out
the
other
way.
I
can't
get
out
of
my
driveway
and
it's
not
just
a
school.
D
They
want
to
put
it
on
the
school.
It's
24
7,
seven
days
a
week,
two
in
the
morning
last
night,
two
people
were
flying
down
the
road.
It's
the
neighbors
in
this
neighborhood
that
are
driving
up
and
down.
Why
don't
they
go
out
their
own
exit
right
beside
where
their
houses
are?
Why
did
they
find
the
need?
And
this
necessity
to
drive
down?
We
are
where
we
are.
We
know
we're
going
to
get
a
majority
of
the
school
traffic
we
moved
across
from
the
school,
but
there's
been
some
changes.
D
A
A
He
mentioned
he
had
support
from
four
people
who
agreed
the
roads
should
be
open
to
provide
a
safer
route
for
the
neighborhood
and
make
visiting
relatives
easier.
Two
people
said
the
same
arguments
failed
before
city
council
in
1976
and
that
the
roads
to
allow
travel
for
emergency
vehicles
should
be
reopened.
A
50
people
were
opposed
to
opening
up
the
portion
of
frampton
street
line
between
inverness,
drive
and
harborview
road
and
the
portion
of
fairway
drive
line
between
burning
tree
road
and
harborview
road
and
said
that
opening
these
access
points
would
make
the
neighborhood
a
race
track
from
harborview
to
folly
road
with
people
trying
to
cut
off
the
corner
light
and
avoid
traffic.
It
would
also
put
over
50
children
in
danger.
A
A
We
also
received
a
handwritten
note,
mailed
that
asked
the
committee
to
not
open
the
roads
due
to
the
risk
of
children
who
biked
and
walked
to
and
from
school.
Others
in
the
neighborhood
had
learned
to
deal
with
the
traffic
impacts.
One
person
quoted
the
oath
and
responsibilities
of
a
council
member.
One
person
asked
that
the
committee
members
listened
to
the
overwhelming
majority
of
neighborhood
residents
that
appealed
before
them
and
their
fellow
council
members
that
they
knew
what
was
best
for
their
children
and
community,
and
those
were
all
the
comments
that
we
received.
B
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
If
there's
no
further
comments
that
will
conclude
the
public
or
the
public
comment
portion
of
the
public
hearing,
and
I
would
now
ask
if
there
are
any
other
comments
from
our
committee
members.
C
It's
apparent
a
number
of
comments
here
today
were
about
the
speed
and
of
whether
they're
residents
or
not,
of
motorists
who
who
are
traveling
along
there.
Have
we
gotten
any
requests
from
the
neighborhood?
Maybe
we
need
to
make
them
aware
to
put
any
speed
bumps
or
our
traffic
control
measures
in
in
the
in
the
neighborhood
where,
where
this
excessive
speeding
is
occurring
and
have
we
asked
our
police
department
to
to
monitor.
L
Yes,
sir,
actually
in
2018
we
installed
a
speed
hub
on
fairway
drive.
We,
you
know
been
working
with
the
neighborhood
for
a
number
of
years,
including
you
know,
charleston
county.
You
know
police
department,
as
well
as
the
city
police
department.
But
yes,
we
have
treated
fairway
with
speed,
hunt
back
in
2018.
H
Yes,
thank
you.
So
is
there
you
know
I
hate
mr
daniel
and
mr
daniel
senior
hi.
This
is
caroline
parker
councilwoman,
caroline
parker
one
I've
heard
from
you
from
you
before,
and
I
appreciate
your
service
to
this
country.
Not
only
that,
but
you
know
to
this
community.
I
understand
that
this
is
very
troublesome
for
you,
so
you've
put
together
I'm
sitting
here.
Looking
at
your
report,
I
also
want
to
say
that
this
is
my
first
ever
traffic
and
transportation
committee
meeting.
So
I
apologize
that
I'm
not.
H
I
can't
be
suited
at
this,
but
I
I
see
all
of
the
information
and
I'm
I'm
looking
at
it,
but
I
am
just
curious
that
I
think
you
mentioned
that
there
might
be
you
know.
Would
there
be
a
possibility
of
no
parking
signs
or
or
other
things?
I
just
I
hate
to
hear
you
know.
Okay
50
are
opposed
to
opening
it,
but
you
know
10
people
would
like
it
reopened.
I
mean
if
it
affects
one
person,
10
people
40
people,
I
mean.
H
Obviously
we
work
in
a
world
where
majority
always
wins,
but
it
it
doesn't
change
the
fact
that
there
are
folks
that
are
upset
that
this
has
affected
negatively.
Are
there
other
ways
that
we
can
resolve
this
to
to
have
a
happy
ending?
You
know
to
wear.
You
know
additional
signage,
I
think.
Like
mr
mayer
said
you
know,
speed
humps.
Obviously
no
street
should
be
used
as
a
raceway,
I
mean
my
neighborhood
is
used
as
a
raceway
every
day
you
know
it's
and
I
have
having
small
children.
H
It's
a
genuine
concern
of
most
parents,
but
you
know
whether
it's
police,
patrol
or
signs
that
say
no
through
traffic.
You
know.
Are
there
other
opportunities
here
for
a
solution?
You
know
again.
This
is
my
first
meeting,
but
thank
you
for
letting
me
talk.
D
There
you
go
there
is
there
is
an
opportunity,
but
nobody's
asked
me
to
compromise,
and
I
do
take
offense
to
mr
finnegan
saying
that
95
percent
of
the
residents,
while
staying
there
92
houses
and
you
can
only
get
50
to
write
in
well.
That's
not
a
majority.
Second
thing
is
title:
57
says
specifically:
it's
not
majority
rules.
It
is
in
the
best
interest
of
all
and
that's
why
I
show
that
video.
D
It's
definitely
not
in
our
best
interest,
not
anybody
on
the
first
block,
but
if
you
I
knew
that
there
was
a
possibility
that
they'd
say
no
we're
not
going
to
open
the
roads,
even
though
I
do
believe
that's
what
the
law
says.
So
how
about
this?
Why
don't
you
put
a
no
exit
sign
at
the
end
of
burning
tree
and
fairway
and
no
entrance
sign
at
the
end
of
burning
tree
and
fairway?
So
what
that
would
do
is
that
would
pretty
well
mean
I'm
getting
all
the
school
traffic
everybody
talks
about.
D
The
school
traffic
is
20
minutes
a
day
out
of
180
days
a
year,
all
right
shut
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
off
from
birdie
tree
road,
not
physically
shut
it
off,
shut
it
off
with
signs
to
say
no
interest,
so
you
would
not
be
able
to
come
up
fairway
and
enter
burning
tree.
You
wouldn't
be
able
to
come
down
burning
tree
where
miss
haygood
lives
and
get
on
the
burning
tree
on
the
second
part.
D
So
you
keep
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
out
of
the
drag
strip
from
coming
in
and
we'll
deal
with
the
school,
because
the
school
is
a
problem,
but
it's
not
the
only
problem
and
allowed
drop-off
on
inverness
during
school
hours.
They
took
away
that
drop-off
point
and
that
increased
traffic
by
30
percent.
You
do
those
two
things
and
you
can
keep
the
roadblocks
keep
the
roadblocks
where
they
are
on
harborview
keep
the
roadblock
where
it
is
on.
Frampton
allowed
drop
off
as
it
was
done
since
1960.
D
B
F
All
right,
so
I
wasn't
that
patient
I
sort
of
jumped
in
I
apologize
bobby.
I
just
I
do
have
a
question.
I
don't
know
if
we've
talked
to
anybody
over
at
the
police
department
or
at
traffic
enforcement,
whether
we've
had
any
enforcement
activities
over
in
that
neighborhood
and
before
you
give
me
an
answer
for
those
who
live
over
there.
One
of
the
things
you
asked
for
is
some
enforcement,
be
careful
what
you
asked
for
you
might
get
it
anyway.
Have
we
had
any
enforcement
over
there
robbie
that
you
know.
L
Really
charleston
county
resource
officer
has
been
the
one.
That's
been
really
monitoring
the
traffic
at
the
school.
I
just
wanted
to
say
real,
quick,
because
the
way
the
school
is
set
up
is
that
you
know
the
buses
come
in
off
the
chevy's.
The
bus
is
coming
off.
The
back
of
the
school
to
where
the
the
parents
drop
off
and
pick
up
is
all
for
frantic.
That
was
the
request
submitted
by
the
school.
That
was
the
approval
for
the
school
to
set
it
up
in
this
this
type
of
man.
L
So
when
we
started
getting
the
complaints,
you
know
we
reached
out
to
charleston
county
we
reached
out
to
the
school
and
and
mainly
to
the
resource
officer,
indicating
that
we're
having
these
problems
indicating
that
mr
daniel's
driveway
was
being
blocked
in
which
the
school
you
know
indicated
that
they
would
go
out.
Have
personnel
try
to
help
to
assist,
not
like
block
his
driveway
and
try
to
keep
the
the
motorists
in
line.
You
know
the
school
also
went
and
they
revised.
L
They
made
some
changes
to
their
drop-off
route
on
their
property,
where
they
actually
had
a
single
lane
and
they
increased
the
dueling.
So
they
were
trying
to
get
more
storage.
You
know
within
their
property
and
you
know
doing
what
they
can
to
get
the
traffic
off
of
france.
L
Of
course,
you
know
with
the
pandemic,
more
parents
are
definitely
driving
their
kids
to
school
and
the
buses
aren't
being
used
much,
but
that
has
you
know,
impacted
a
little
bit
more
traffic
onto
frantic
the
signs
that
mr
daniel's
talking
about
it,
the
no
parking
stopping
standing
signs,
those
signs.
Basically
nobody
could
be
on
the
street
if
those
signs
went
up,
this
has
been,
or
is
the
dedicated
route
for
the
parents
to
come
in
and
drop
off
and
pick
up
their
school
or
their
children.
L
So
if
we,
you
know,
put
up
those
signs,
then
there's
no
way
for
them
to
do
that.
D
B
H
Sure
to
that
notion
this
is
councilwoman
parker
again
to
that
notion.
I
believe
parents
and
things
they
were
parents
and
things
parents
were
parking
at
this
church
correct,
but
that
has
since
been
shut
down.
Is
that
part
of
the
problem
as
well
or
am
I
playing
catch
up
here.
L
Yes,
what
I
was
told
the
school
did
have
some
type
of
agreement
with
the
church
that
they
no
longer
have
right.
Yeah.
They
used
to
be
able
to
park
over
at
the
church,
and
I
think
there
was
actually
a
crossing
guard
or
somebody
to
assist
the
kids
going
back
and
forth,
but
somewhere
that
agreement
is
no
longer
in
play.
H
D
That's
one
of
them.
I
can
answer
that
question
because
I
went
to
the
church
and
asked
them.
They
said
their
insurance
company
told
them
they
can't
have
parents
and
children
playing
on
their
school
on
their
grounds,
they'll
be
liable
for
it.
So
they
said
we
can't
do
it
and
nobody
was
and
what
caused
it
was
when,
according
to
mr
rogers,
he
wanted
to
stop
people
from
jumping
the
school
lines
they
picked
up.
No
parking
standing
signs
on
inverness
doesn't
comport
any
traffic
laws.
D
My
street,
I
can
make
it
comport
to
traffic
laws
but,
as
you
saw
when
I
got
out
this
morning,
just
to
start
my
presentation,
my
driveway
was
blocked.
Today
they
haven't
solved
that
problem,
but
it's
not
just
my
driveway
being
blocked.
It's
the
whole
idea
of
the
entire
traffic,
we're
talking
about
schools
that
the
school
is
the
only
issue.
It's
only
part
of
the
issue.
It's
the
entire
driving
through
the
neighborhood
to
get
to
the
exit
on
frampton.
Why
don't
they
want
to
go
out
somewhere
else?
H
Yes,
I
just
I
I
have
to
agree
with
that,
a
little
bit
I
mean,
but
again,
not
being
a
lawyer.
You
know,
I
don't
know
the
law
I
I
do.
H
Certainly
you
have
provided
a
lot
of
information,
but
again,
if,
if
they're
saying
that
they
legally
did
close
that
road,
you
know,
but
I
I'd
still
like
to
you
know-
do
a
little
research
on
that,
but
I
just
wish
that
there
there
was
a
a
meeting
point,
a
meeting
of
the
minds
that
you
know
again,
I'm
brand
new
to
this,
but
it
certainly
sounds
like
there
are
adequate
concerns
coming
from
everyone,
who's,
obviously
very
involved
in
this
community,
which
is
good
to
see,
but
I
I
wish
that
there
could
be
a
solution.
C
So,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I'd
I'd
like
to
to
thank
everyone
for
coming
on
board
here
today.
So
we
could
hear
everyone
out
number
one
and-
and
I
too
am
thankful
to
tony
daniel
for
his
service
and
dr
daniel
for
your
service
to
our
community
and
our
country,
and
and
it's
clear
from
looking
at
the
history
of
this
today
that
your
particular
property
you
know,
has
seen
the
consequences
of
the
loss
of
right-of-way
behind
you,
which
brought
your
driveway
closer
to
the
to
the
main
road.
C
When
that
happened,
the
school,
as
you
mentioned,
growing
in
size
by
three
times
the
neighborhood
certainly
being
accustomed
to
getting
in
and
out
this
way
ever
since
1976
and
and
that
might
have
been
somewhat
unintended.
C
Well,
it
wasn't
an
unintended
consequence
because
it's
exactly
the
reason
why
the
neighborhood
requested
it
in
the
first
place
according
to
what
what
mr
mcqueeny
shared
with
us.
C
So
I
I'm
I
do
have
to
rely
on
our
legal
counsel,
not
knowing
otherwise
that
that
council,
at
that
time,
acted
at
the
request
of
our
citizens
and
that
they
acted
legally,
and
I
think
councilmember
parker
is-
is
on
a
good
track
here
that
some
kind
of
compromise
and
attention
is,
is
further
needed,
and
it's
like
most
things
in
life.
It's
not
a
simple
easy.
One
thing
fixes
the
whole
situation,
but
a
continued
review
of
the
signage.
C
C
I
don't
think
I
will
call
our
traffic
enforcement
within
the
police
department
to
conduct
continued
and
additional
enforcement
there,
and
we
need
to
continue
to
work
with
the
school
district,
even
though
I
I
hear,
mr
daniel,
that
that's
not
the
only
that's,
not
the
only
problem,
so
I
I
think
it's
on
a
number
of
fronts
that
we
continue
to
do
the
best
to
ameliorate,
a
situation
that
I
must
admit
for
for
dr
daniel
and
his
family.
C
You
know
just
given
the
circumstance
of
where
that
property
was
and,
and
all
of
these
factors
had
been
an
inconvenience
more
than
an
inconvenience
to
them.
It's
probably
a
pain
in
the
you-know-where.
C
So
anyway,
I
would
commit
to
use
our
city
resources
to
work
on
all
those
various
things
with
the
neighborhood
to
just
try
to
make
it
as
best
we
can.