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City of Charleston Committee on Traffic and Transportation 10/13/2020
C
Well,
we'll
go
through
the
agenda
and
we'll
put
folly
road
at
the
end.
If
that's
okay
with
you
all
under
she
joins
in
great,
if
not,
we
will
buzz
through
that
too.
That's
a
yellow,
okay,
excellent
I'd
like
to
what's
today's
date,
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
october
13th
2020
meeting
of
the
city
of
charleston
traffic
and
transportation
committee.
C
B
I'll
do
an
invocation
that
you
might
have
heard
on
the
news
of
the
three
members
of
the
same
family
that
were
killed
up
on
next
in
parkway
on
sunday,
and
that
was
actually
one
of
my
very
dear
friends,
her
mom
brother
and
sister-in-law,
and
obviously
one
of
the
things
we
do
here
is
try
to
make
our
roads
as
safe
as
possible.
So
I
have
an
invocation
pertaining
to
unexpected
tragic
death.
B
You
are
the
god
of
all
comfort
who
comforts
us
in
a
time
of
need,
and
I
pray
that
those
who
are
facing
such
a
difficult
trial
today
uphold
them
and
draw
very
close
to
them.
Raise
up.
I
pray
the
right
people
to
minister
to
them
and
to
be
a
genuine
comfort
and
support
at
this
time
of
tragedy
and
grief.
B
B
D
C
A
Yes,
sir,
and
I
just
take
two
quick
seconds
to
introduce
this,
as
you
know,
glen
mcconnell
widening
is
one
of
the
main
sales
tax
projects
that
are
being
completed
by
charleston
county,
but
they
have
been
extremely
collaborative
in
making
this
project
what
it
can
be.
It's
it's
a
complete
streets,
effort,
it's
it's.
It's
definitely
widening
in
the
right
of
way.
It's
addressing
trainers,
issues,
it's
bringing
multimodalism
through
multi-use
pathways
from
these
ferry
all
the
way
through
magwood,
and
also
it's
taken
into
consideration.
A
C
A
We
we
don't
know,
but
a
number
of
these
things,
and-
and
I
know
this
is
a
broader
conversation,
but
a
number
of
these
things,
our
various
cities
departments-
are
already
taking
on
responsibility
of
so,
for
example,
scbot
does
not
maintain
mass
storms.
That's
always
falls
within
our
responsibility,
so
anytime
we
introduce
that
that's
the
case,
multi-use
pathways
and
sidewalks
for
public
service,
how
many
new
ones
that
are
there.
A
C
C
A
A
C
C
B
C
A
One
of
the
things
that
was
passed
within
our
city
budget-
I
think
almost
almost
three
years
ago,
but
I'll
say
two
to
be
on
the
safe
side-
was
an
allocation
towards
the
match
dollars
to
get
all
the
funding
to
execute
on
this
project.
So
this
is
not
a
request
for
funding.
This
is
a
request
for
maintenance
in
the
future.
A
This
agreement
is
between
the
city
and
the
town
of
james
island,
specifically
because
through
the
coordination
efforts
of
the
james
island,
governmental
committee,
and
otherwise
the
request
was
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
think
about
multimodalism
that
we
introduced
new
features
that
may
have
not
been
introduced
before.
Obviously,
in
some
portions
of
this
problem
corridor
is
already
viking
infrastructure,
but
not
necessarily
the
traffic
type
of
paint
and
otherwise
that's
usually
associated
with
that
type
of
infrastructure.
A
Again,
currently
in
the
design
standards
for
the
state
d.o.t,
that
type
of
paint
is
considered
non-standard
and
so
that's
outside
of
their
scope
of
what
they
normally
maintain,
and
so
the
agreement
that's
before
you
is
specifically,
and
only
about
the
bike
paint
that
would
be
added
within
the
corridor
of
folly
road.
Now
we
will
have
to
come
back
to
you
to
the
point
of
council
member
seeking
sufficiency,
we're.
A
Hey
look:
I'm
just
trying
to
follow
a
process
where
there'll
be
a
similar
type
of
agreement
that
you
just
saw
with
glenn
mcconnell,
that's
outside
the
black
lane
aspect,
but
regarding
the
multi-use
areas
that
will
be
added
there,
the
enhanced
intersections
that
have
non-standard
materials
and
anything
else
that
falls
within
that
non-standard
category
with
the
with
the
state
dot,
so
that
this.
This
is
specifically
about
an
intergovernmental
agreement
between
city
of
charleston,
town
of
james
island,
specifically
around
the
bike
infrastructure.
That
would
be
the
bike
paint
to
be
even
more.
C
So
I
guess
the
good
news
is
we're
focused
on
multimodalism.
That's
always
good.
The
bad
news
is,
it
doesn't
seem
particularly
efficient,
but
for
purposes
of
keeping
things
standardized
and
looking
good.
I
guess
this
is
a
good
thing.
I
see.
Councilmember
jackson
has
her
hand
up.
I
guess
this
goes
right.
E
E
E
E
We
agreed
on
the
first
segment
to
be
done
under
the
county
funding
the
the
20.
I
think
it's
the
2006
half
penny,
if
I'm
correct
and
the
money
was
there
to
actually
make
the
wider
path
that
would
have
taken
a
multimodal
off
the
street,
but
because
of
the
impediments
of
the
huge
transmission
lines,
if
any
of
you've
driven
on
folly
road,
we
have.
We
have
those
huge
big
ones
and
it
was
just
impossible
to
try
and
you
know,
even
consider
relocating
any
of
those.
E
So
we
settled
for
an
eight
foot.
Sidewalk,
that's
going
to
be
much
bigger
than
and
to
allow
you
know,
combination
of
of
walkers
and
strollers,
and
things
like
that,
but
the
bikes
still
have
to
stay
on
the
road
surface
and
the
compromise
for
that
was
the
design
was
to
create
the
the
green
bike.
Lane
widen
the
bike
lane
from
three
feet
to
four
feet
and
keep
it
painted
so
that
it
literally
is
a
machine
more
safe
design
feature.
E
C
A
A
It's
very
heavily
used
on
a
regular
basis
and
they
found
that
the
amount
of
times
that
they
have
to
blow
the
corner
of
the
train
was
a
large
number
and
specifically
because
there's
not
necessarily
accommodations
at
that
crossing.
It's
not
heavily
trafficked
at
all,
there's
signage
there,
and
otherwise
I'm
for
that.
A
Now
I
think
most
of
council,
except
for
chairman,
were
not
here
when
the
acquired
zone
was
approached
for
washington
street,
but
essentially,
and
just
as
simplified
as
possible
when
a
quiet
zone
is
pursued
with
the
federal
rail
administration.
The
entity
that
owns
the
public
right-of-way
has
to
be
the
sign-on
entity
to
allow
it
to
be
the
case
it
just
so
happens.
The
city
owns
johnson
street.
A
However,
the
developer
came
to
us
and
said:
look
we
want
this
quiet
zone,
we
will
make
it
happen
financially.
We
will
take
on
the
maintenance
responsibility.
We
just
need
the
city
to
sign
off
and
there's
a
particular
process
with
it.
That's
followed
I'll.
Let
chip
fill
in
those
blanks,
but
what's
coming
before,
you
is
a
resolution
process
to
trigger
that
opportunity
and
also
the
the
permission
to
move
forward
with
an
moa
with
the
development
group
to
get
on
paper
what
they
said
that
they
would
commit
to
well
I'll.
F
And
I
have
to
apologize
looking
at
the
agenda,
I
realized
I
did
not
attach
the
exhibit
a
which
is
the
moa
with
the
developers
for
this
resolution.
I'm
gonna
go
through
it
and
if
you
all
need
to
defer
it
for
more
time,
we
can
deal
with
that.
I
don't
think
it'll
be
anything
crazy,
it's
a
little
bit
long,
but
it's
pretty
standard
language
if
you're
familiar
with
the
835
savannah
highway
project,
so
the
quiet.
C
F
It's
a
yeah,
it's
so
essentially,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
allowing
someone,
a
third
party
to
go
within
our
right-of-way
and
make
improvements
that
would
permit
palmetto
railways,
the
the
trains
going
crossing
johnson
street
to
not
blow
their
horns
or
not
blow
their
horns
as
much.
The
improvements
required
will
be
gates
and
flashing
lights.
F
The
city
will
not
pay
anything
towards
this
will
not
agree
to
maintain
any
of
this,
and,
as
a
result,
we've
prepared
an
mou
to
enter
into
with
the
developers
who
will
be
responsible
for
constructing
the
gates
and
the
lights
and
maintaining
the
gates
and
the
lights
moving
forward.
The
moa
essentially
provides
two
important
documents
is
exhibits
and,
and
one
is
a
temporary
access
and
construction
easement
agreement.
This
just
allows
the
developers
to
go
on
to
the
within
johnson
street
and
construct
the
improvements,
the
gates
and
the
flashing
lights.
F
F
C
So
before
we
get
to
questions,
let
me
just
see
if
I
understand
the
way
we
got
to
here
is
this:
that
the
applicant
for
the
quiet
zone,
improvements
has
to
be
the
owner
of
the
right-of-way,
which
happens
to
be
the
city,
because
that's
johnson
street.
We're
then
going
to
partner
up
through
mou
with
the
developer,
to
build
the
required
improvements
to
then
make
it
a
quiet
zone,
so
it'll
be
less
horn
blowing
we're
going
to
then
leave
it
to
the
developer
to
build
and
maintain
in
perpetuity
the
crossing.
F
C
I
get
it
I
mean
the
lawyer
in
me
says
this:
you
know,
developers
come
and
go.
Cities
are
pretty
much
here
forever.
Who
knows
what's
going
to
happen,
10
years
down
the
road?
If
these
aren't
maintained
and
an
alarm
fails
or
light
goes
out
and
someone
gets
injured,
then
I
think
we
have
to
be
adults
here
and
realize
it
may
come
back
to
the
city
somewhere
down
the
road
right
I
mean
I
don't
know,
there's
enough
protections
in
the
world
we
could
put
in
any
agreement
whether
we've
seen
it
or
not.
C
C
F
The
city
reserves
the
right
to
inspect
those
areas
and
to
go
in
and
improve
those
areas
if
the
developer
doesn't
or
or
homeowners
association,
usually
eventually
doesn't
make
any
take
any
corrective
measures
in
a
certain
period
of
time.
We
have
the
immediate
right
to
go
on
to
the
property
and
take
corrective
measures.
If
we
find
there's
an
emergency
and
then
we
can
charge
a,
we
basically
collect
the
fee
from
the
hoa.
F
C
E
C
C
C
Well,
look
I
mean
this
is.
This
is
an
example
in
some
ways
of
just
government
run
amok,
there's
so
many
different
hands
in
this
thing.
If
we
can
help
get
it
moving
forward,
I'm
fine
with
that
too,
because
this
isn't
this
application,
or
this
mou
is
going
to
take
some
time
to
put
all
together
and
get
up
to
fta
right.
Are
you
ready
to
go
keith.
C
E
D
F
F
B
C
F
C
C
Yes,
sir
yeah-
and
you
know
I
but
railroad
litigation
in
south
carolina
is
infamous
and
they'll
go
after
everybody,
so
let's
just
make
sure
we
do
the
best
we
can
with
this
thing.
Okay,
all
right.
Any
other
comments,
questions
concerns
about
this
agreement.
This
is
gonna,
be
my
resolution.
So
it'll
be
the
last
time
we
see
it
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
opposed
okay,
the
eyes
have
it
next
on
our
agenda
is
mr
benjamin.
A
A
Let
me
be
clear
that
this
is
this
is
scdot's
project
that,
because
of
the
signal
maintenance
agreement
that
the
city
has
with
scbot
will
be
responsible
for
maintaining
and
operating
after
they
do
so.
This
is
all
funded
by
them.
This
is
their
contractors
and
otherwise
we're
involved
in
the
process,
because,
ultimately,
we
need
to
know
what's
going
on
for
us
to
fulfill,
what's
necessary
with
the
signal
maintenance
agreement,
I'm
gonna
bring
it
up
because
we've
gotten
a
lot
number
of
questions
about
signal.
A
We
have
to
be
involved
in
the
traffic
signal
response
is
literally
the
middle
middle
ground
between
what
we
currently
have
throughout
most
of
the
city,
where
you
just
plug
and
play
with
different
phasing
and
what
you
might
see
in
mount
pleasant
along
johnny
dodds,
where
it's
completely
responsive
based
on
how
traffic
might
be
at
any
moment
in
time.
Traffic
signal
response
is
essentially,
you
have
sets
of
different
phases
that
you
can
immediately
click
into
to
respond,
especially
at
peak
hour,
and
it's
able
to
be
adaptive
to
that
time.
A
So
not
saying
you'll
fix
all
the
traffic
on
61,
but
it's
one
of
those
tools
in
the
toolbox
that
scdot
will
bring
into
the
table
that
we'll
have
to
operate
and
maintain.
So
I
wanted
to
bring
those
up.
I
know
they
were
talked
about
bringing
forth
those
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
put
those
pieces
on
the
record.
A
The
contract
is
planning
to
come
back
to
get
back
on
the
good
footwood
installation
on
october
19th,
and
so
those
things
are
the
camera
installations,
the
video,
detecting,
all
the
cameras,
the
concrete
foundations,
all
the
ada
ramp
stuff,
and
then
markets
will
come
in
after
that.
So
still
a
number
of
things
to
do
at
that
intersection,
but
stuff
is
moving
and
trying
to
press
on
that
contract
that
they
get
on
a
good
foot
with
that
project.
Thanks
to
councilmember
brady,
we
we
got,
we
have.
A
We
have
partners
coming
and
and
being
installed,
and
otherwise
governor
brady
asked
for
us
to
bring
this
to
like
pay
committee
and
follow
through
and
so
last
week,
officially
baba's
on
cannon
street
introduced
theirs.
It
looks
amazing
and
we
actually
have
about
three
other
different
entities
or
sets
of
businesses
that
have
also
inquired
about
the
usage
of
parking
areas
for
being
able
to
expand
their
business
capacities
and
otherwise
there's
as
councilman
sikkins
has
already
heard
this
through
the
central
business
district.
A
There
is
a
number
of
hoops
that
we
have
to
jump
through
in
using
scdot
right-of-way,
and
so
that
has
its
own
set
of
challenges,
but
thankfully
the
challenge
is
not
a
no
there's
a
process
to
it,
but
we've
been
able
to
navigate
that
and
look
forward
to
coordinating
with
a
number
of
businesses
on
that.
Regarding
south
market
street,
we
still
have
south
market
street,
supporting
those
vendors
and
otherwise,
and
just
want
to
update
you
on
the
numbers.
A
These
numbers
are
inclusive
of
the
margin
of
error.
So
since
our
opening
or
closing
of
south
market
street
on
august
15
by
our
pedestrian
calendar,
we've
seen
over
88
600
counted
with
an
average
per
day
of
over
1500,
so
it's
definitely
getting
used
and
otherwise
definitely
something
that's
supporting
both
the
brick
and
mortar
and
the
market
street
vendors
there
just
a
couple
of
other
county
projects
and
opportunities
for
the
general
public
to
get
involved
in
some
of
your
constituents.
One
is
on
tomorrow
evening
at
the
west.
A
Actually,
revitalization,
commission,
the
county,
charleston
county,
will
be
presenting
on
the
7171
project,
the
old
town
district
project.
A
lot
of
benefits
from
that
I
know,
is
extremely
controversial.
The
first
time
around
the
project's
been
whittled
down
a
little
bit,
but
bringing
some
really
good
benefits
both
of
multi-use
actually
improving
sumar
street,
in
anticipation
of
our
development
at
the
old
piggly
wiggly
site,
intersection
improvements,
especially
at
orange
grove
and
samurai,
and
the
introduction
of
a
brand
new
signalized
intersection
at
amberley
as
well.
A
I
also
wanted
to
make
sure
you
all
are
aware
us
17
corridor
study
that
we,
as
city
staff,
have
been
stakeholders
with
the
county
on,
has
their
public
engagement
survey
up
and
ready
for
constituents
to
respond
to
through
october
31st
again,
this
is
a
prioritization
process
of
both
short-term
and
long-term
projects
that
can
be
pursued.
This
is
quintessential
because
what
it
does
for
county
city
and
state
is
begin
to
identify
priorities
that
we
as
municipality,
can
then
turn
to
the
county
and
say
hey.
A
I
know
I
got
a
notification
that
there's
some
updates.
They
need
to
do
to
the
website,
but
between
october
12th
and
november
12th
citizens
have
an
opportunity
to
look
at
some
of
those
alternatives
and
those
options
and
lend
their
voice
in
that
process
as
well,
and
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
all
aware
of
that,
so
that
your
constituents
get
involved
there
and
then
finally,
just
a
reminder
with
our
citywide
maintenance
plan.
We
are
in
west
ashley
for
this
month,
so
anything
that
we
need
to
add
workforce.
A
C
G
C
C
And
then
you
know,
put
a
product
out
there,
that
people
like
and
and
that
property
owner
and
business
owner
did
that.
So
I'm
hoping
that
as
we
go
forward
with
this
from
a
government
perspective
that
we
can
partner
with
like-minded
responsible
business
and
property
owners
who
want
to
make
things
better,
just
not
just
for
their
business
but
for
the
city,
and
I
think
that
is
a
at
least
early
on
that
the
indications
are.
C
E
In
that
vein,
chairman,
I
I
just,
I
thought
it
was
a
very
interesting
op-ed
that
was
in
the
paper
today
about
you
know
six
years
ago.
I
guess
you
know
some
bold
developers
thought
that
they
would
just
take
those
matters
in
their
hands
and
they
weren't
successful,
but
and
and
primarily
because
people
still
wanted
to
drive
their
vehicles.
E
You
know
really
up
and
down
king
street,
and
I
do
feel
like
that
that
the
public
sentiment
has
changed,
not
a
hundred
percent,
because
100
of
people
will
never
want
to
get
out
of
their
cars,
but
certainly
in
terms
of
a
city-oriented
walkable,
multimodal
urban
lifestyle.
I
think
we're
seeing
a
huge
change
among
the
population
and
it's
just
going
to
keep
going
so
and.
C
I
agree
with
that
and
if
the
evidence
is
out
there,
the
two
sort
of
really
they're
small
projects
but
they've
been
a
big
deal,
is
market
street
and
now
cannon
street,
both
of
which
have
been
popular
and
those
were
both
born
of
sort
of
the
mandate
during
the
times
of
kovid
to
do
something
different
and
so
far
we're
two
for
two.
So
that's
great.
C
You
all
may
not
remember
this,
but
there
was
a
business
owners,
probably
about
six
or
seven
years
ago,
who
actually
put
a
a
blow
up
swimming
pool
on
king
street,
one
of
the
parking
spaces.
It
was
very
popular
around
the
business.
It
was
not
so
popular
with
everybody
else,
but
so
we've
come
a
long
way
since
the
days
of
pop-up
swimming
pools,
and
I
think
we've
got
a
long
way
to
go,
but
we're
off
to
a
great
start
and
again
to
staff
to
this
committee
to
anyone
else
got
a
hand
in
it.
C
Thank
you
and
let's,
let's
keep
them
on
that,
I'm
going
all
right.
Is
there
anything
else
while
we're
all
together
keith?
What
are
you
thinking
we're
all
going
to
get
to
back
together?
Again,
I
mean
we're
about
to
get
in
the
budget
period.
Are
we
going
to
need
a
tnt
meeting
before
our
next
city
council
meeting.
A
I
don't
necessarily
have
anything
on
the
docket
as
of
right
now
to
bring
up
these
agreements
were
really
the
only
reason
we
wanted
to
meet
this
time
go
ahead
and
get
those
out
of
the
way-
and
you
know
you
we-
you
all
already
gave
us
a
pass
to
wait
until
january
to
give
updates
on
build
we're
still
waiting
on
things
anyway.
So
there's
not
really
much
to
update
there.
So
I
think
we're,
I
think,
we're
okay.
I
don't
want
to
jinx
myself.
C
All
right
great,
well,
we'll
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
I
really
reason
I
asked
is:
I
know
we
gave
everyone
a
pass
over
the
big
report
on
the
build
grant,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
an
eye
on
it
as
we
get
through
november
and
december,
and
you
give
us
a
kind
of
a
report
as
to
how
we're
doing
even
if
it's
just
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction.
A
E
I
was
just
going
to
suggest
you
brought
up
the
budget
word
chairman
that
maybe
we
should
just
give.
Mr
benjamin.
An
invitation
to
you
know,
send
us
anything
in
writing
that
he
would
like
us
to
know
in
particular
about
your
priorities
for
your
budget.
It's
going
to
be
some
tough
decisions,
but
we
don't
want
to
leave.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
leave
the
table
without
understanding
what
we
would
be
gaining
and
losing
if,
if
we
can't
fund
the
priorities
that
you've
put
together
through
the
finance
office,
well.
C
A
Yeah,
I
did
my
due
diligence.
We
were
able
to
make
the
necessary
cuts
that
were
requested
of
us
and
also
keep
our
requests
in
there,
which
aren't
new
requests.
We
essentially
asked
for
permission
to
hire
the
people
you
all
budgeted
for
us
last
year,
which
includes
the
multimodal
manager
position,
so
I
think
the
way
that
we've
approached
it
in
our
department
has
really
been
retaining
our
games.
A
So
we
can
make
sure
that
developers
are
doing
what
they're
supposed
to
do
and
and
otherwise,
especially
as
you
all
consider
changing
the
permit
fees
which
will
be
coming
to
the
ad
hoc
committee
right,
we
need
some,
we
need
additional
votes
to
monitor
and
then
the
multimodal
manager.
So
we
can
really
get
a
hold
of
those
particular
issues
and
have
somebody
at
the
city
dedicated
to
that
work
day
in
and
day
out.