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City of Charleston JI Creek Task Force 12/16/21
A
A
B
Good
good
well,
thank
you
for
everybody.
Coming
together.
I
guess
we
got
a
few,
a
few
more
folks
coming
on
board
and
I
think
everybody's
involvement
and
work
on
this.
I
think
we're
making
some
progress.
I
think
we'll
be
talking
today
about
some
good
possibilities
for
for
us
to
get
some
funding
to
make
a
difference
in
the
in
the
in
the
drainage
basin,
which
would
be
great.
I
did
want
to
let
y'all
know
he
ross
appel
council
member
appel
cannot
be
with
us,
he's
a
new
daddy.
B
He
just
had
a
baby
girl
day
before
yesterday
and
his
lovely
wife
alexis,
so
so
he's
playing
dad
today
and
won't
be
with
us,
and
I
did
want
to
thank
this-
may
be
her
last
meeting
as
as
a
council
member
councilmember
jackson,
because
I
think
I've
noted
before
and
you
all
know,
it
was
really
carol's
leadership
that
brought
us
together
as
a
task
force
and
carol.
We
really
thank
you
for
that.
That
was
very
insightful
and
thank
kudos
to
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
So
I
just
came
from
the
from
the
clinic
got
my
shot.
I
feel
fine
but
kind
of
to
share
the
the
the
the
good
work
today.
I'm
gonna
call
on
my
co-chair
mayor
woolsey
to
conduct
the
meeting
today
I'll
be
with
you,
but
I'm
gonna
take
a
little
more
of
the
back
seat
today
and
listen
in
and
and
thank
you
all
again
for
being
on
this
task
force.
Mayor
woolsey.
C
Thank
you
thanks
a
lot
mayor,
tecklenberg
and
you
know
I
want
to
share
your
thanks
for
councilwoman
jackson
and
all
the
work
she's
done.
Our
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
actually
introduction
of
new
members
and
welcome
to
guests.
Well,
I'm
not
really
sure
who
a
guess
who
our
guests
are
or
new
members,
but
welcome.
D
Mayor
we've
invited
jacob
berkey
with
wolpert
to
join
us.
C
I
see
jacob
jacob,
would,
you
say,
say:
hi
and
where
you're
from.
E
Hi
there
jacob
berkey
I
live
on
james
island.
I
work
for
wolpert,
a
water
resources
engineer
and
a
project
manager
here
studied
at
clemson.
Biosystems
engineering
excited
to
be
here
and
to
help
out
in
this
watershed
thanks
well,
thank
you.
C
And
welcome
so,
if
there's
no
further
guest
or
introduction,
let's
go
to
watershed
management
plan
presentation
will
bessie
will.
F
Vice
chair
we're
going
to
have
to
table
mr
bessie's
presentation,
he
was
again
unable
to
be
with
us
so,
but
I
think
it'll
be
worth
waiting
for.
So
please
put
it
on
a
future
agenda.
C
Well,
we'll
be
sure
to
do
that,
you
know.
I
would
like
to
just
share
with
the
committee
that
I
was
hoping
at
this
meeting
that
we
would
be
recommending
the
the
watershed
management
plan
to
the
jurisdictions
to
the
three
governments
to
adopt
is
our
basic
plan.
So,
let's
tentatively
plan
to
be
prepared
to
vote
to
make
a
recommendation
to
the
local
governments
that
we
adopt
this
plan
all
right.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
with
no
objections,
since
we
don't
have
mr
bessie
to
present
it.
C
Let's
go
to
working
group
updates
is:
do
we
have
an
update
from
the
technical
committee
ashley.
G
Hi,
yes,
we
do
so.
The
stormwater
managers
have
been
meeting
and
discussing
the
testing
as
well
as
the
sites.
G
D
Sure,
just
real
quick,
I
think
I
think
jacob
you
may
be
speaking
item
five
below,
but
expound
maybe
a
little
later.
I
don't
know,
but
I
think
we
had
on
our
monitoring
plan
james
island
testing
sites,
one
and
two
two
being
the
the
upland
folly
road
bridge
and
could
not
get
that
full
access
to
that
private
dock
earlier
in
the
summer.
So
we
went
further
upstream
to
the
raleigh
road
access,
and
so
that
might
be
what
people
might
see
in
the
summer
report
a
little
differently.
D
We
do
plan
on
testing
at
riley,
road
and
folly
road
bridge
in
the
next
few
months
to
see
how
they
correlate
and
then
and
then
make
sure
that
folly,
road
bridges
are
designated
testing
site
number
two
moving
forward,
so
that
was
the
only
thing
that
might
cause
some
confusion.
Moving
or
looking
or
reviewing
the
summerly
summer
quarterly
report.
D
C
C
I'm
hearing
nothing
there.
Let's
go
to
citizens,
education,
engagement,
andrew
wonderly,.
H
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
We
met
earlier
this
week
and
had
a
great
discussion
and
I
think,
lined
up
some
some
good
priorities
for
for
moving
forward.
So
one
of
the
things
you
know
we're
hoping
you
know
we're
hoping
to
coordinate,
you
know
some
of
our
activity
with
the
319
application.
I
think
you
know
if
we
can
meld.
You
know
those
two,
those
two
pass
forward
together.
H
H
We've
already
got
some
good
resources
in
place
for
those
with
the
clean,
our
creek
james
island
and
the
clemson
extension
watershed,
signage
and
I'll
share
this
with
liz
afterwards,
so
she
can
distribute
to
the
group.
We
have
a
good
list
of
existing
resources
that
are
out
there
that
are
great
for
folks
that
want
to
kind
of
take
responsibility,
take
ownership
of
their
relationship
to
the
creek
and
how
that
and
how
they
impact
the
creek's
health
and
its
future.
We
also
saw
a
real
need
for
educational
content
about
septic
tank
costs.
H
H
Also,
you
know
properly
maintained
what
the
yearly
inspection
and
maintenance
costs
are
with
the
tank.
I
think
we
should
also
include
a
piece
in
there
about
the
cost
of
doing
nothing,
which
is
the
sort
of
status
quo
and
having
polluted
creek
kim
morganello
from
from
clemson,
who,
I
don't
think
is
here,
or
at
least
I
don't
see,
brought
up
the
idea
of
developing
an
educational
strategy
that
would
sort
of
identify
what
the
barriers
are
to
the
messages
that
we
want
to
deliver,
define
the
benefits
of
those
messages
and
then
also
target.
H
You
know
also
really
selectively
target
the
messages
to
various
audiences,
and
so
that's
where
I
think
we
might
consider-
and
we
discuss
this
a
little
bit
as
well.
We
might
consider
enlisting
the
help
of
a
pr
firm
to
help
effectively.
You
know
target
both
the
materials
and
the
messages
to
town
residents
so
that
we
get
the
right
response
rather
than
just
broadcasting
it.
You
know
really
zeroing
in,
but
you
know
we're
hoping
to
be
helpful.
H
I
think
the
the
education
and
engagement
committee
is
hoping
to
be
helpful
with
the
319
grant
fund
and
if
we
conclude
some
of
these
components
in
there
to
help
push
those
initiatives
forward
too.
We'd
be
really
interested
in
that.
So
anybody
that
was
on
that
call
wants
to
type
in
with
anything
I've
missed
on
all
years.
C
C
Hearing
none,
we
will
go
on
to
our
next
policy
report
and,
let's
say
ross
is
busy
with
his
new
child.
I
don't
know
that
we've
delegated
anyone
to
report
on
where
the
policy
group
is.
C
I
guess
I
I'm
on
that
committee,
but
I
don't
really
have
any
specific
report.
I
guess
you
know
in
that
group
we
had
talked
about.
C
Developing
ordinances
and
regulations
of
septic
tank
use
and
and
the
town
did
adopt
a
requirement
for
our
residents
to
inspect
their
septic
tanks
every
at
least
every
three
years
and
maintain
their
septic
tank
in
good
operating
condition,
and
tonight
we'll
be
considering
for
second
reading
a
proposal
that's
slightly
different,
and
that
is
for
the
town
expense
to
do
a
what
we
call
a
baseline
inspection,
a
more
thorough
inspection
of
all
the
septic
tanks
in
the
town
in
the
james
island,
creek
watershed.
F
Much
yes!
Yes,
yes,
it's
not
a
question,
but
I
I
I
I
thought
that
your
ordinance
about
the
septic
tank
inspection
requirement.
You
know,
was
a
done
deal,
but
it's
been
a
while.
So
could
you
plan
to
circulate
that
to
the
members,
especially
to
a
council
member
appel's
committee?
Members
again,
I
I
do
feel
like
that's
sort
of
a
no
now
a
standard
that
we
can
all
measure
the
other
jurisdictions
in
terms
of
drafting
our
own
septic.
Yes,.
C
It's
the
way
it
was
adopted
in
at
the
november
meeting
and
then
what
we're
doing
next
is
is
different.
It's
you
know,
town
appropriation
of
funds,
and
it
does
actually
require
the
homeowners
to
accept
the
this
more
thorough
inspection
for
those
properties
anyway,
we'll
be
sure
to
share
what
we
got
and
presumably,
after
that,
I
expect
this
will
pass
tonight
and
we'll
share
what
we
have
after
tonight
for
the
secondary
ordinance.
C
Anything
else
all
right.
Well,
let's
go
to
the
three
nine
grant
initial
proposal.
Who
is
going
to
speak
to
that.
I
Yeah,
so
right
now
we
have
kyle
michelle
and-
and
I
we-
we
spoke
with
andy
miller
and
his
team
at
d
heck,
and
they
understand
that
we're
going
to
be
applying
for
the
319
money.
The
pst
is
going
to
be
spearheading
that
application.
I
Based
on
that,
the
timing
is
really
kind
of
february
that
we
start
the
preliminary
application
with
a
due
date
by
mid-march
best
case
scenario.
If
the
district
is
awarded
the
319
money,
it
would
be
appropriated
in
august
of
2022
spendable.
So
we
will
be
working
through
that.
I
As
my
understanding,
it
really
is
year
by
year,
based
on
the
number
of
applicants,
the
amount
of
funding
that's
going
to
be
available,
and
we
will
be
pursuing
that.
Obviously,
we
want
to
show
that
we
are
looking
for
every
possible
way
to
fund
this
project.
So
we
already
have
our
engineer
bob
george
working
on
some
of
the
preliminary
information
associated
with
that
based
on
the
application,
that's
posted
on
dx
website
from
last
year.
I
So
we
have
the
engineer,
investigating
that
and
obviously
more
will
be
coming
to
the
commission,
the
jipst
commission
in
january
february
and
march
as
we
work
towards
that
application.
C
Right
any
questions
yes
carol.
F
Thank
you
dave.
It's
very
encouraging
to
hear
that
you're
marching
along
as
the
lead
on
the
on
the
filing
for
this
grant.
So
can
you
remind
us
or
re-educate
us
what
are
the
eligible
uses
for
whatever
funding
you're
you're
going
to
be
asking
for.
I
So
this
is
based
on
prior
I
mean
I
can
tell
you
what
last
year's
was
and
and
so
the
319.
Obviously
we
could
not
apply
for
the
319
funding
last
year
because
we
did
not
have
an
approved
watershed
management
plan
from
d-head.
So
now
we
have
the
approved
watershed
management
plan
from
d-hat.
The
ag
also
knows
that
we
attempted
to
apply
for
the
500
000
grant
through
the
ria,
and
they
have
all
of
that
information
as
well.
I
357
page
grant
application
for
that,
and
so
that's
what
we
spoke
with
andy
miller
about
hey.
You
know
this
is
the
julian
clark
neighborhood.
These
are
up
the
hill.
A
point
here
are
the
affected
properties
and
obviously
we're
talking
about
putting
in
a
sewer
expansion
project,
and
there
would
be
obviously
the
the
construction
portion
of
that
that
that
that's
what
would
be
eligible,
we,
the
the
319
money.
As
I
understand
it
right
now,
we
could
not
use
that
to
acquire
easements.
I
I
I
don't
know
if
all
of
the
engineering
costs
could
be
associated
with
that,
but
the
actual
physical
construction
of
sewer
expansion
is
what
the
319
would
go
towards
and
we
have
plenty
of
that.
Construction
cost
to
you
know
absorb
into
the
319
funds.
C
Any
other
further
questions
for
dave
you
know
and
dave,
is
the
district
administrator,
the
administrator
for
the
jameson
public
service
district.
I
6.4,
so
the
town
has
committed
1.8
and
obviously
we
want
to
apply
for
everything,
the
gap
between
1.8
and
six
point
or
I'm
sorry,
8.2
million.
So
obviously
we
are
applying
for
all
of
the
connections
to
the
homes,
the
you
know:
the
tap
fees,
the
impact
fees,
everything
like
that
and
we're
applying
for
that
entire
gap,
so
that
they're
right
now,
as
as
what
we're
seeking
there
would
not
be
out
of
pocket,
tap
fee
and
connection
fees,
impact
fees
to
the
residents
for
those
208
properties.
C
Yes,
councilwoman
hanikai.
A
A
Also
in
our
meeting
in
40
minutes,
there
will
be
on
our
public
works
agenda,
a
request
that
ms
johnson
is
bringing
forward,
that
daniel
whaley
road,
the
extended
sewer
as
well,
I
believe,
there's
several
houses
that
will
be
built.
I
don't
know
if
it's
an
actual
access
to
the
waterway
or
a
pond
that
goes
to
the
james
island
creek,
but
nevertheless,
on
the
other
side
of
central
park.
Road,
then
up
on
the
hill
they
are
requesting
sewer
as
well,
and
the
county
through
ms
johnson
is
putting
forward.
I
And
do
you
know
what
she's
asking
the
county
to
provide
like
the
dollar
amount.
A
No,
I
know
that
some
constituents
reached
out
to
her
they
reached
out
to
me
as
well,
and
I
think
we're
actually
going
to
be
discussing
that
in
our
meeting
this
evening.
J
This
is
kyle
michelle.
If
I
can
yes,.
C
J
Ahead,
thank
you
just
with
a
couple
of
small
things
to
add
to
what
dave
said.
Although
he
covered
it
pretty
well,
we
in
our
meeting
with
dhec.
They
noted
that
we
will
need
letters
from
each
of
the
ms4
permit
holders
in
the
area.
J
So
that's
the
we'll
need
the
cooperation
of
the
city
and
the
county
in
getting
those
letters
done
for
that
application
in
february,
and
so
I'm
just
kind
of
putting
a
pin
in
there
for
everybody
to
remember
when
we
come
back
to
you
and
then
we
also
talked
had
good
good
long
conversations
since
the
last
task
force
task
force,
meeting
with
representative
stavrinakis
who's
on
the
arpa
subcommittee
of
house
ways
and
means
committee,
and
one
thing
that
he
stressed
and
I'm
just
putting
this
out
there.
J
For
you
guys,
consideration
was
the
participation
of
any
other
local
governments
that
received
arpa
funds
into
the
project
to
show
their
commitment
for
it.
J
Town
of
james
island
has
already
made
this
very
strong
commitment
of
1.8
plus
million
dollars,
but
for
the
city
and
the
county,
when
you
get
ready
to
allocate
your
arka
funds,
if
there's,
if
you
can,
if
you
can
find
the
the
the
support
for
putting
you
know,
even
even
four
or
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
even
if
it's
you
know,
would
like
we'd
love
more
but
into
this
project,
so
that
we
can
go
back
to
what
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
the
rural
infrastructure
authority
who's,
allocating
this
money
and
saying
that
we
have
local
government
arpa
commitments
from
all
three
local
governments
that
are
impacted.
J
That
would
make
that
would
make
our
application
for
the
funding
stronger.
I
think
we
just.
I
also
note
real
fast
that
dave
and
I
have
met
not
only
with
tavernacus.
We
met
with
senator
sen
up
here
in
her
office.
We
met
with
senator
campson
up
here
in
colombia,
and
so
we've
covered
all
of
the
legislative
delegation
and
now
we're
we're.
J
You
know
we
like
I
said
we,
we
met
with
b
heck
and
we're
covering
all
the
all
of
the
people
that
we
need
to
cover
before
they
allocate
this
first
round
of
arpa
funding,
which
is
expected
in
january,
the
hou
we
expect
the
house
is
expected
to
pass
a
bill
in
january
and
send
it
over
to
the
senate
with
the
first
round
of
the
arpa
funding,
and
so
we're
teeing
up
everything
for
that
right
now,.
F
I
And
so
anybody
who
has
a
watershed
management
plan
they
want
to
know,
even
though
we
do
not
have
a
combined
system
of
sewer
and
storm
water,
they
want
documentation
from
anybody
who
has
a
storm
water
management
plan
that
our
sewer
expansion
isn't
gonna,
somehow
harm
the
storm
water
collection
for
that
specific
area,
and
so.
I
F
I
Okay,
so
the
319
money
is
administered
through
d-hat
v-heck
has
its
own
pot
of
money
and
based
on
the
number
of
applicants
for
319
funds,
they
distribute
those
among
the
applicants
on
an
annual
basis.
So
that
is
a
separate
pot
of
money.
The
town
has
committed
the
1.8
million
dollars
out
of
their
arpa
money
that
was
distributed
to
the
town.
I
However,
the
the
feds
have
pushed
down
a
tremendous
amount
of
money
to
the
state,
and
then
the
state
has
to
distribute
those
arpa
funds.
Our
understanding
is
that
they're
going
to
take
a
good
chunk
of
that
money
and
give
it
to
the
riaa.
Now
the
ria
tip
historically
has
given
out
500
000
grants
to
help
support
projects.
I
However,
that's
because
they
have
very
limited
funds
to
distribute,
and
this
you
know
once
in
a
lifetime
kind
of
distribution
from
the
feds
that'll
be
different,
and
the
ria
is
already
well
aware
of
our
sewer
expansion
project
because
we
applied
back
in
september
for
that.
So
there's
a
separate
pot
of
arpa
money
from
the
state
and
it's
our
understanding
right
now
that
it
will
be
like
two
rounds
of
arpa
and
so
that
first
round
in
january.
I
We
hope
that
there
is
a
an
appropriation
for
this
project
and
if
there
isn't,
then
we
got
to
go
for
the
second
round.
And
if
we
don't
see
that,
then
you
know
we
have
to
go
for
the
the
surplus.
The
state's
surplus,
which
is
the
non-recurring
projects.
I
F
J
It's
it's
when
you
put
yourselves
in
their
shoes
and
once
once
we
explain
it,
you
understand
that
the
legislators
say
well
wait
a
minute.
We've
got
this
money
that
can
be
spent
on
this,
but
this
this
d-hac
319
money
is
epa
money.
It's
federal
money
that
comes
to
the
state
every
year
that
can
only
be
spent
on
this
narrow
class
of
things.
So
they're
going
to
say,
wait
a
minute!
You
guys
you
guys!
J
J
The
directive,
we've
gotten
from
ways
and
means
and
finance
so
we're
running
that
path
and
if
we're
so
fortunate
in
the
end
as
to
get
more
money
than
we
need,
which
I
don't
think
is
going
to
happen,
we'll
deal
with
that
problem
when
we're
so
fortunate
as
to
have
it
so
and
and
dave
is
exactly
right.
Everything
he
said
is
accurate.
The
timing
is
first
part
of
arpa
january.
By
the
time
the
senate
gets
finished
two
and
on
it,
it'll
probably
be
february
that
money
will
go
over
to
riaa.
J
That
money
will
start
getting
out
the
in
february
the
dhec
application.
The
the
initial
intent
to
apply,
I
think,
is,
is
due
that
application
goes
in
by
the
end
of
february
or
march.
They
decide,
as
dave
said
in
dave,
did
you
say
august
and
then,
and
then
but
they'll
know
what
they're
going
to
do
prior
to
that,
the
non-recurring
money
in
the
state
budget,
which
is
almost
as
much
as
the
arpa
money,
will
almost
for
sure,
be
spent
all
of
it
by
june.
J
So
those
are
sort
of
the
those
are
so
then
the
second
round
of
arpa.
It
can
be
this
year,
but
given
the
amount
of
money
they're
putting
on
the
street
with
the
first
round
of
arpa
1.2
1.3
billion
dollars
and
all
the
non-recurring
almost
2
billion,
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
they
held
back
some
of
that
arpa
money
later,
just
because
there's
only
so
many
avenues
to
actually
put
workers
on
the
ground
to
spend
that
kind
of
money.
F
C
Any
further
questions
or
just
comments
on
the
the
grant
proposals
in
this
the
efforts
to
get
money
to
for
sewage.
C
All
right
hearing-
none,
thank
you.
So
much
especially
you
know
for
kyle
and
dave
for
all
your
information.
So
next
we'll
go
to
our
fall
sample
report,
our
update
from
walpert,
and
so
I
guess,
brett
you
already
sort
of
introduced.
Are
we
ready
to
go
or
jacob?
Do
you
want
to
just
start.
E
Yes,
sir,
I
just
got
ability
to
screen
share,
so
I
will
do
so
and
yes,
so
I've
already
been
introduced.
That
was
great
to
knock
that
out.
At
the
beginning,
I
was
asked
to
give
some
some
highlights
and
fairly
quick
highlights
of
the
memo.
The
memo
will
be
more
detailed,
show
more
data,
talk
about
the
data
in
more
detail,
but
to
keep
it
high
level
and
hopefully
show
you
some
visuals
are
my
goals
here.
E
So
we've
got.
I
want
a
very
quick
agenda
for
a
quick
presentation,
monitoring
objectives.
Our
objectives
are
to
identify
where
bacteria
sources
in
this
watershed
and
then
what
kinds
of
sources
are
they
are
they
are
they
human
are
they
dog?
Is
it
wildlife?
Is
it
some
or
all
of
the
above
and
overall,
the
information
so
far
suggests
somewhere.
All
of
the
above
then
we're
going
to
look
at
some
locations
in
the
watershed.
Brett
gave
me
a
good
intro.
There
talk
about
the
enterococcus
sampling
and
then
talk
about
microbial
source
tracking.
E
All
right,
so
here
is
a
map
that
is,
from
the
the
james
allen,
creek
watershed
plan,
I've
taken
and
added
a
couple
more
notations,
so
you
can
see
james
allen,
creek
jic
number
one
is
at
harbor
view
road
bridge
in
the
lower
part
of
the
watershed.
E
That
is
one
of
our
sampling
locations
from
the
effort
here
in
the
first
quarter,
we
also
sought
to
sample
at
jic-2,
which
was
a
private
dock.
As
brett
mentioned,
we
looked
for
other
other
locations,
since
we
couldn't
get
the
access
there
that
we
needed,
so
we've
been
sampling
at
riley
road
at
the
end
of
raleigh,
rather
sort
of
a
small
boat
ramp.
That
gives
us
access
there
in
the
upper
part
of
the
watershed
and
then
the
folly
road
bridge.
This
is
the
purple
star
on
there.
E
I
wanted
to
note
that,
because,
like
I
said,
we
met,
we
met
earlier
this
week
and
that's
a
place
that
we're
going
to
be
sampling
in
the
upcoming,
so
the
idea
with
these
locations.
You
know
this.
This
map
will,
I
think,
have
some
more
dots
on
it
by
the
time
we're
done.
This
is
a
dynamic
effort
to
track
down
these
sources
and
sample
different
places
and
cut
the
watershed
up
and
and
see
what
we
can
learn,
while
still
you
know
getting
the
access
we
need
to
to
sample
at
various
places.
E
So
everything
from
here
on
out
harborview
bridge
is
our
downstream
and
raleigh.
Road
is
our
upstream
for
the
purpose
of
discussion,
so
we're
going
to
get
into
some
intracaucus
results
again
much
more
detail
in
the
memo.
So
I
think
at
this
point
we're
all
familiar
with
the
idea
that
enterococcus
is
an
indicator
bacteria
used
to
identify
a
potential
fecal
contamination.
E
Our
sampling
approach
in
a
tidal
system
like
this
is
to
take
multiple
samples
at
a
location.
On
a
given
day,
the
concentrations
tend
to
vary
with
tidal
conditions,
as
as
water
moves
in
from
from
different
places,
and
we
see
that
to
be
true
under
wet
and
dry
conditions,
so
we
we
seek
to
sample
under
both
looking
at
dry
conditions.
That's
how
we
know
if
the
wet
conditions
are
any
different,
you
know
our
numbers
up.
Are
they
down?
E
E
I
know
we're
all
looking
at
this
on
on
not
huge
screens.
Probably
so
I
want
to
just
zoom
in
on
sample
results,
to
give
an
idea
of
how
enterococcus
results
may
may
vary.
So
again.
This
was
a
well
I'll
flip
back
and
if
you
look
at
the
rainfall
up
there,
you
can
see
we
had
two
bands
of
rainfall,
sort
of
a
long
spread
out
storm
and
then
the
sampling
opportunity,
which
again
has
to
line
up
with
laboratory
hours,
was
here
on
this
falling
tide.
E
So
as
we
sampled
that
following
tide,
riley
road,
the
upstream
is
in
blue
and
you
can
see
that
those
results
varied
from
600
npn
per
100,
mil
to
to
as
high
as
8
000,
with
npn,
just
being
a
most
probable
number
of
bacteria
colonies
in
a
given
sample.
Those
are
the
units
of
of
those
results
and
at
harborview
bridge
our
downstream
site,
varied
from
around
100
to
around
800
mpn
per
100
mil.
E
This
was
a
you
know:
it's
hard
to
catch
a
great
wet
weather
sampling
event,
but
with
the
lab
hours
and
the
different
factors
as
well
and
you'd
like
to
get
some
falling
tide
as
water
is
flushing,
but
we
did
sort
of
you
can
see
how
those
concentration
changed
over
this
flushing
here
again
much
more
about
neurocaucus
in
the
memo
to
keep
it
high
level,
just
one
to
talk
about
microbial
source
tracking.
E
E
The
bacteria
that
live
in
that
environment
are
also
unique,
and
then
those
bacteria
will
leave
the
gut
along
with
the
fecal
matter
of
that
organism,
and
so
you
can
look
for
the
dna
of
those
gut
bacteria
in
order
to
detect
that
a
given
organism
is
a
potential
source
of
that
fecal
matter.
So,
following
that
train
of
logic,
you
can
you
can
answer
some
of
that
where's
it
from
what
is
the
source.
E
So
I
wanted
to
to
give
a
nod
to
some
of
the
efforts
that
have
been
done
before
us.
That
would
be
charleston
water
systems.
They
they
did
some
microbial
source
tracking.
They
sampled
at
three
different
locations,
jic-1
jic-2
and
also
a
simpson
creek
site
sort
of
one
of
the
the
sidearms
of
the
creek
coming
in
there
on
two
occasions.
They
did
mst
at
three
locations
and
we'll
just
wanna
try
to
put
those
results
into
some
context.
E
So
if
you,
if
you
squint
a
little,
you
can
see
those
results
are
in
the
hundreds
or
perhaps
the
thousands
of
copies
per
100
ml,
meaning
copies
of
dna.
Again
we're
looking
at
the
the
dna
of
the
gut
bacteria
and
it's
a
different
set
of
units
from
your
normal
bacteria
reporting
units,
you're
measuring
different
things,
they're
often
related.
If
you
have
fecal
matter,
you
may
have
enterococci
and
you
may
have
human
sources
or
other
sources,
bird
dog,
but
they're
different
things,
so
to
take
those
those
numbers
and
and
sort
of
make.
E
You
know
10
to
the
2
10
to
the
3
10
to
the
5,
to
make
it
more
visual.
Here's
a
look
at
sort
of
how
those
lab
results
come
in,
so
the
lab
will
either
give
you
a
no
detect,
which
means
they
did
not
detect
anything
they'll,
give
you
a
low
dnq,
which
would
be
a
did,
not
quantify
so
it
was
detected.
E
It
was
below
the
quantification
limit
of
the
test,
there's
also
sort
of
a
low
but
quantifiable
amount,
and
then
a
moderate
and
higher
amount,
and
these
are
again
orders
of
magnitude
like
to
think
about
with
mst.
You
know:
is
this
source
present
or
not,
and
is
it
a
lot
or
a
little
don't
squint
at
the
numbers
all
too
much?
E
But
from
that
initial
effort
they
saw
you
know,
amounts
of
human
and
bird
and
and
trace
lower
amounts
of
dog,
and
those
sources
were
consistent
at
the
three
different
sites
for
the
the
wet
weather
event
that
charleston
water
systems
did.
So
that
was
interesting
to
see
and
a
great
first
point
of
information
to
hop
back
to
our
our
sort
of
technical
graph.
E
Here
we,
you
know,
we
we
chose
to
do
microbial
source
tracking
for
one
of
the
samples
at
the
upstream
location,
where
we
had
a
higher
result,
and
this
was
one
of
the
four
mst
analyses
that
are
currently
scoped
to
happen.
We've
got
four
in
our
pocket
and
we're
trying
to
you
know
we're
using
them
strategically,
and
this
was
the
first
one
that
we
decided
to
use
so
to
zoom.
In
a
little
bit
here
are
those
results
and
we
had
low
to
trace
amounts
of
human
and
dog
and
moderate
amounts
of
bird.
E
That's
that's
those
results
from
that
day
from
that
location-
and
you
know
the
larger
picture
shows
how
it
kind
of
falls
into
the
rainfall
and
everything
and
the
tides.
What's
one
thing
to
think
about
so
here
we
are
at
an
upstream
location.
The
way
you
would
sort
of
track
down
your
sources
is.
If
you
ran
mst
at
a
lower
location,
you
can
see
how
are
those
different
from
each
other
on
a
given
day.
E
You
know
lots
of
factors,
but
if
you
look
at
things
on
a
given
day,
you
know
did
something
change
from
raleigh
road
to
jic2
or
from
jic
2
to
jic-1,
or
perhaps
you
know
other
sites
to
come
and
that's
sort
of
the
nature
of
doing
this,
cutting
the
watershed
up
and
trying
to
find.
Where
is
it
and
what
is
it
so,
the
second
quarter
of
sampling?
You
know
the
fall
has
been
underway.
E
You
know,
for
our
purposes,
fall
ends
at
the
end
of
december
and
we'll
be
working
on
the
bringing
the
next
memo
together
in
the
new
year
and
getting
that
to
the
committee.
So
that's
what
I've
got
for
you
and
I'll
kick
it
back
to
the
mayor.
Thank
you.
C
Well,
thank
you
jacob
any
questions.
A
Yeah,
so
my
question
is:
is:
is
this
upstream
location
at
riley
road?
Is
that
a
really
good
representative
location
of
the
other
locations
that
you
tested.
E
So
it's
it's!
It's
a
it's
a
representative
upstream
place
to
start.
You
know:
jic2
was
sought
out
for
consistency
with
previous
efforts,
but
again
we're
doing
land-based
sampling.
We
couldn't
get
the
access
on
the
dock
that
we
needed,
so
we
were
looking
at
at
other
locations
and
I
think,
between
rally
road
and
bringing
in
jic-2
basically
doing
instead
of
four
at
two
locations.
Three
at
three
is
sort
of
the
upcoming
approach
and
I
think
that
will
will
help
us.
You
know
again
piece
apart
that
upper
watershed
nicely.
A
Yes,
I
understand
the
difficulty
in
doing
these
kinds
of
samples
and
the
variability
that
you're
going
to
be
faced
with.
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
was
a
way
to
look
for
any
kind
of
inter-rater
reliability
based
on
flow
and
location,
say
between
two
upstream
sites
and
two
downstream
sites.
You
know
do
something
to
get
a
little
more
verification
of
the
data
that
you're
getting.
E
Sure
sure
so
I
flip
back
to
the
map,
as
I'm
still
sharing
here,
I
will
say
in
terms
of
of
of
you
know,
working
your
way
through
the
watershed.
There
are
no
major
creek
arms
that
come
in
between,
say,
jic,
2
and
rally
road,
but
there
are
you
know,
resident,
you
know
another
set
of
residences
and
businesses
and
and
things
to
look
at
in
between.
E
A
E
I
think
it's
a
a
good
exploratory
location,
but
the
more
the
merrier
for
sure.
C
Okay,
I
would
like
to
just
break
in,
and
you
know
again
encourage
our
testing
to
include
the
site
we
identified
at
the
at
battery
point.
You
know
we.
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
and
this
is
probably
not
for
jacob,
but
in
terms
of
you
know
all
this
data
collection
that
is
going
to
be
more.
I
guess
you
know
more
more
solidified
in
terms
of
the
takeaways
and
the
trends
that
we
should
be
able
to
make
use
of.
Where,
where
is
the
data
collection
going
to
come
into
play
with
our
grant
applications
are?
Are
we
going
to
be
you
know,
put
to
the
test
on?
F
Maybe
there
there's
not
enough
evidence
or
not
as
much
evidence
of
of
human
toxicity
than
we
thought
just
with
the
one
test
set
of
tests
that
cws
was
able
to
provide,
or
you
know
I
I
certainly
wouldn't
want
our
grant
application
to
be
dependent
on
data
collection
that
is
going
to
be
more
informative,
as
time
goes
on
right.
So
I
I
don't
know
who
knows
if
there's
any
corollary
of
that
at
this
point
in
time,
but
that's
what
my
brain
is
curious
about.
D
Of
any,
I
don't
know
any
conditions
for
this
grant,
but
it
sounds
like
david
and
mike
would
be
able
to
speak
on
that
more
than
the
technical
committee.
I
I
So
everything
that
you
know
we
have
as
far
as
this
data
we're
gonna
be
able
to
to
include
that
within
the
narratives
to
be
able
to
show
you
know,
here's
the
watershed
management
plan.
This
is
you
know.
The
third
party
objective
said
we
should
be
working
on
this
stuff
and
so
anything
associated
with
making
improvements
to
the
watershed
or
some
of
these
endpoint
sources.
Yeah.
We
want
to
be
able
to
include
that
within
the
grant.
Narratives.
C
Well
so
I
I'll
comment,
you
know
we
have
no
choice
but
to
develop
this
data
and
I
don't
see
how
we
can
avoid
sharing
it,
and
so
we'll
just
see
what
the
data
shows
and
as
we
go
forward.
K
And
mayor,
if
you
don't
mind
I'll
chime
into
this
video,
yes
on
the
city
side,
thank
you,
the
yeah.
I
think
the
the
great
applications
obviously
have
have
merit
from
the
tmdl,
because
you
know
obviously
removing
septic
is
a
benefit
to
a
tmdl
for
a
fecal
coliform
based
pollutant
right.
That's
one
of
those
default
100
epa,
the
319
grant
program
even
from
an
ri
perspective,
which
is
multiple
things
that
they're
looking
at
those
are
without
doubt
beneficial
things
to
be
doing
from
our
task
force
perspective.
K
We
have
a
number
of
things:
we're
balancing
right.
The
septic
tank
is
like
a
structural
item
of
structural
bmp,
basically
of
saying
we'll
remove
septics,
that's
one
way
to
remove
we're
also
looking
at
education
outreach
policy.
So
we
have
to
keep
keep
all
those
things
in
mind
and
I
think
again,
septic
has
a
lot
of
benefits
in
addition
to
just
the
impacts
on
the
tmdl,
but
it
certainly
does
have
a
strong
benefit
to
the
tmdl.
Will
it
be
enough
to
do
all
of
it?
That's
what
we
don't
know.
K
Yet
we
don't
know
if
it
would
completely
remove
contamination
in
the
creek,
and
you
know
having
said
that,
nothing
will
completely
remove
some
level
of
contamination
from
bird
and
other
things
that
are
naturally
occurring.
We
want
to
get
it
back
down
to
healthy,
healthy
levels
that
you
can
use
the
creek
for
its
intended
purposes,
and
I
think
the
data
is
really
early
for
the
data
I
mean.
K
That's
all
you'll
see
all
of
us
engineers
like
hedging
horribly
so
far
with
data,
because
we
only
have
so
little
sampling,
but
you
know
it
is
actually
so
far
relatively
supportive.
I
think
of
what
we've
seen
what
cws
has
seen
and
that
kind
of
the
more
extreme
up
upper
end
of
the
watershed
and
again
yes,
there's
some
two
directional
flow,
but
generally
there's
this
predominant
flow
out
into
the
the
ashley.
K
You
know
we're
not
seeing
as
much
impact
from
human
in
that
extreme
upper
end
at
like
rally
road,
but
that's
also
not
where
the
majority
of
the
septic
tanks
are
and
then
we
are
seeing
higher
loads
down
as
we
get
out
towards
where
the
neighborhoods
with
the
septic
tanks
are.
So
I
mean
there
is
some
support,
certainly
in
the
data
I
think,
we've
we've
been
looking
at
and
again
really
early.
I
don't.
K
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
any
kind
of
conclusion
yet,
but
the
first
blush
of
data
does
generally
support
the
approach
that
maybe
septic
will
be
a
major
improvement
by
itself
to
the
watershed,
much
less,
whatever
else
we're
working
on.
So
I
think
it's
it's
good
and
we're
all
going
the
right
direction.
There's
always
a
question
of
cost
benefit
of
how
much
money
are
you
willing
to
invest?
K
But
that's
that's
a
side
kind
of
a
side,
question
and
septic
or
sewer
is
expensive,
but
it's
expensive
because
it's
a
massive
benefit
to
the
property
owners
as
well.
So
I
appreciate
the
chance
to
kind
of
touch
on
that
mayor.
Thank
you.
I
Yeah,
and-
and
so
you
know,
my
hope
is
that
we
we
had
a
my
commission-
has
a
wastewater
committee
and
obviously,
as
we
have
more
data,
and
we
get
more
results,
I
I
would
you
know,
welcome
jacob,
you
know
and
andrew
wonderly
to
come.
You
know
to
the
wastewater
committee
meeting
in
their
public
meetings.
My
commissioners
are
there
to
be
able,
to.
I
You
know,
show
these
results
so
that
we
can
have
that
presented
to
the
to
the
decision
makers
that
are
ultimately
applying
for
these
grants
and
using
money
to
to
construct
potential
sewer
expansion.
So
thank
you.
D
C
Well,
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
idea.
You
know
we're
we.
I
don't
think
we
quite
have
them
on
the
town
of
james
island
website
yet,
but
I
have
been
we're
working
towards
that
goal
to
get
them
on
there
as
well,
and
I
also
would
hope
that
you
know
with
the
educational
committee
as
we
think
about
you
know
what
is
our
you
know,
web
presence
or
facebook
presence,
whatever
our
presence
is
going
to
be
as
a
task
force.
C
We
need
to
get
that
information
available
to
the
public
because
you
know
probably
I
believe,
all
right.
Any
other
questions
or
comments
about
this
all
right
hearing,
none,
let's
go
to
update
from
south
carolina
legislative
delegation.
Do
we
have
our
any
state
representatives
here
to
report
on?
What's
going
on?
C
I
don't
see
senator
sen
or
representative
whetmore
here
today,
and
so
I
guess
we
got
kyle
michael
giving
it
from
our
end.
So
but
I
don't
see
anyone
and
so
let's
go
ahead
to
new
business
from
the
new
business,
and
so
this
is
update
for
federal
infrastructure
funds
delivery
to
through
south
carolina
legislator,
governor's
office.
F
Sir,
mr
tim,
I
I
mean
I
I
I
contacted
our
delegation
reps
specifically
to
james
island,
senator
whetmore
and
senator
sen.
F
They're
still
waiting
for
the
federal
criteria
to
be
developed,
and
maybe
mayor
tecklenberg,
knows
a
little
more
about
that.
I
don't
know,
but
I
do
think
that
as
long
as
we
keep
our
eye
on
that
prize
as
another,
you
know
aim
of
our
shotgun
for
money
in
all
locations,
then
that
that's
just
what
I
I'm
I'm
assuming
and
assured
of
that.
Our
delegates
from
the
legislature
will
be
oppressing
us,
but
it's
great
to
have
mr,
mr
michael
on
board
with
us
as
well
to
have
a
zero
to
the
ground
in
colombia.
So.
C
C
Carol
suggested
mayor
teklenberg
that
you
might
have
the
inside
scoop
on
that.
Have
you
heard
anything.
J
No
problem,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
wait.
My
turn
because
I
know
I'm
sort
of
an
add-on
to
the
group
here.
The
the
federal
infrastructure
bill
for
anybody
who's
been
around
for
for
a
decade
or
more
looks
a
lot
like
the
obama
stimulus
bill
from
2009.
J
It
basically
pushes
money
additional
money
through
existing
programs.
It
looks
a
lot
different
from
the
american
rescue
plan
act,
which
is
arpa
which
basically
just
gave
big
chunks
of
money
to
states
and
local
governments.
So
the
the
the
80
or
77
or
80
of
the
money
goes
through
through
existing
programs
to
the
states.
J
J
So
hopefully
that
will
increase
our
chances
of
getting
money
from
that.
If
we
don't
otherwise
get
the
money
before
that
money
hits
the
coffers.
There
there's
other
wastewater
money,
but
the
the
the
11.7
billion
over
five
years
in
wastewater
money-
and
I
am
I'm
sorry
that
goes
into
the
state
revolving
fund,
one
billion
nationwide
in
the
clean
water
state
state
revolving
fund
for
emerging
contaminants.
J
That's
the
boss
of
the
pfoa
issue,
then:
there's
a
hundred
million
nationwide
over
five
years,
20
million
a
year
nationwide
for
wastewater
energy
efficiency
projects,
that's
like
bio
gas
and
those
kind
of
things
and
another
120
you
get
into
these
little
small
amounts
that
aren't
meaningfully
going
to
impact
our
state
over
five
years
nationwide
money.
But
the
state
revolving
fund
is
what,
where
we're
going
to
see
most
of
that
federal
infrastructure
money
for
the
james
island
project.
C
All
right
well,
thank
you
any
questions
or
about
that
so
that
that's
to
me
I
would
you
know,
and
I'm
glad
this
came
up
it's
you
know
this
one-time
american
rescue
plan
money.
We
may
be.
You
know
if
that
doesn't
play,
we
can't
get
all
the
money
we
need
from
that
that
we
should
be.
The
state
should
be
somewhat
more
flush
than
they
have
been
in
the
past
with
this
other
money
going
forward.
So
yes,.
J
F
Timing,
I
mean
knowing
that
we
have
these
different
opportunities
that
don't
you
know
the
delivery
is
not
in
in
sync
necessarily
asking
dave
and
our
psd
friends.
Will
there
be
a
a
big
challenge
to
getting?
You
know,
part
of
the
money
one
year
and
part
of
the
money
the
next
year
are
we
gonna
have
to
like
save
it
up
then,
and
you
know,
issue
one
big
construction
contract.
I
mean
I
have
a
hard
time.
Imagining
that
we're
gonna
be
able
to
build
new
sewer
systems
in
that
sort
of
yearly
phase.
I
Yeah,
so
the
the
actual
construction
of
the
sewer
expansion
is
going
to
be
predominantly,
you
know,
directional
drill
and
those
companies
that
technology
has
advanced
tremendously
over
the
past
decade.
Those
people
are
surgical
with
those
directional
drilling
equipment.
I
mean
it's
a
matter
of
weeks
to
do
those
208
properties
and
drill
that
it's
far
longer
of
a
lead
time
to
get
all
of
the
grant
applications
to
get
all
of
the
engineering
the
permitting
the
acquisition
and
easements
and
everything
like
that.
I
That
is
the
longer
lead
time,
and
so
that's
what
we're
you
know
working
on
now,
it's
going
to
be
tough
to
mobilize
a
directional
drilling
company
to
do
it
like
in
phases.
Obviously
that's
going
to
be
more
expensive
to
mobilize
those
proofs.
The
objective
would
be
to
have
enough
funding
to
be
able
to
knock
out.
You
know,
especially
in
that
julian
clark,
neighborhood.
We
don't
want
multiple
disruptions.
I
C
Well,
hearing
none,
I
think,
we've
run
through
our
agenda.
Is
there
anything
else?
Yes,
I'm
eric
teckenberg.
B
I
checked
with
liz
and
there
was
a
a
dropbox
link
on
everybody's
invite
and,
although
it
says
it's
a
link
to
the
watershed,
that
also
contains
the
tmn
tmdl
report
as
well.
So
if
there
was
some
other
report
other
than
those
two
that
are
in
the
dropbox
that
we
haven't
distributed,
if
y'all
don't
mind,
sending
it
to
liz
again
and
we'll
be
sure
to
get
it
out
to
everybody.
C
All
right
well,
thank
you.
Yes,
sir
all
right,
I
have
that
our
next
meeting
is
thursday
february
17th
at
4
p.m,
and.