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Discussion regarding the James Island Creek Task Force
B
D
B
Yeah
so
um
well,
everybody
else
in
the
country
is
trying
to
figure
out
who
the
next
president
is
going
to
be
we're
about
the
daily
work
of
um
planting
a
cleaner
james
island
creek
and
the
water
quality
over
there.
So
I'd
like
to
call
our
meeting
to
order
and
do
we
have
some,
I
think
everybody
knows
everybody
pretty
well.
um
Do
we
have
a
new
member
or
two
on
board
that
would
like
to
unmute
themselves
and
speak
up
and
introduce
themselves.
E
B
Well,
you're
going
to
have
your
choice:
uh
we
got
three
groups
we're
going
to
get
an
update
from
them
shortly:
technology
and
citizen,
education,
engagement
and
policy.
So
um
we
didn't
really
assign
folks
we
let
them
as
their
interests
dictate.
We
let
folks
volunteer
on
one
of
the
other,
so
uh
uh
you'll
hear
a
couple
of
presentations,
and
maybe
that
will
inspire
you
to
uh
uh
one
of
one
of
the
others.
B
G
H
B
Something
I
I
would
bet
everybody
knows,
the
famous
ken
hill
he's,
the
executive,
ceo
director
of
charleston
water
service
and
their
cooperation
in
this
matter
and
effort
is
really
uh
critical.
So
thank
you,
ken
for
your
service
and
all
the
involvement
that
charleston
water
service
brings
to
the
table
with
us
sure,
and
I
do
see
um
uh
one
person
that
I
know
was
on
a
ballot
this
week,
uh
spencer
wetmore.
So
congratulations
to
you
for
your
forward
reelection
continuing
to
work
with
you.
Thank
you.
B
I
That
is
an
attachment
to
that
mou.
I
know
the
city
of
charleston
has
already
passed
their
version
and
the
town
is
going
to
be
um
considering
it
on
at
their
next
meeting,
which
is
november
19th
coming
up
soon,
so
um
so
that
was
the
main
order
of
business
for
us
and
then
uh
baker
mordecai
with
charleston
water
systems.
I
I
think
you
know
it
was
matt
fountain
in
particular,
you
know
stressed
the
importance
of
keeping
the
test
insights
as
they
are
to
satisfy
the
regulatory
requirements
that
we
have
with
dhec,
but
um
but
we
should
um
look
at
some
other
sites
as
well.
um
Denise
sanger,
with
scdnr
had
some
great
suggestions
for
looking
at
some
other
testing
sites
along
simpson,
creek,
and
so
I
think
one
of
the
orders
of
um
or
one
of
the
you
know,
short
term
short
term
goals
of
this
group
is
to
look
at
some
of
those
alternate
testing
sites.
B
J
K
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
uh
We
met,
I
had
a
great
conversation
and
I
think
I'd
categorize
it
as
sort
of
a
scoping
sort
of
conversation
where
we're
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
what
direction
we
want
to
take
and
what
we
wanted.
The
work
to
look
like.
I
think
the
discussion
fell
out
along
two
lines.
K
You
know
to
take
action
on
their
own
right,
but
then
also
um
also
uh
how
to
keep
the
public
abreast
of
the
task
force,
action
and
processes
towards
the
you
know
ultimate
goals
of
the
tmdl
and
uh
ultimate
goals
that
the
task
force
sets.
So
just
to
give
you
an
all,
you
don't
have
an
idea,
some
of
the
things
we
discussed
and
if
anybody
that
was
part
of
that
conversation
wants
to
jump
in,
please
feel
free
to
do
it.
K
um
Also,
we
talked
about
how
to
do
maybe
some
outreach
to
neighborhood
associations
and
neighborhood
groups
that
sort
of
thing,
and
also
kind
of
linking
this
information
back
to
the
existing
tmdl,
which
is
kind
of
what
has
sparked
all
this
right,
the
the
mandate
from
dhec
to
do
this
action
um
on
the
citizen,
engagement
and
empowerment
side.
You
know
we
looked
at.
We
got
real
granular
and
talked
about
some
really
kind
of
cool
projects.
K
I
think
there's
some
existing
programs
that
are
really
great
for
homeowners.
Everything
from
the
carolina
yards
program
that
clemson
has
to
the
septic
tank
education
and
outreach
materials
that
are
being
developed.
Also
at
clemson
uh
surfrider
has
a
great
program
called
ocean-friendly
yards
or
excuse
me
ocean,
friendly
gardens.
I
think
it
is
uh
so
there's
some
great
sort
of
homeowner
scale
things
there
that
locals
can
do
to
you
know:
control
storm
water
on
their
own
property,
but
also
filter
it
before
it
leaves
their
property.
K
You
know
what
it's
like
you
know:
live
like
a
local
on
the
creek
learn
to
live
with
the
water,
learn
to
understand
how
it
you
know
how
it
impacts
our
lives,
and
you
know
how
we're
all
sort
of
connected
to
the
creek
and
the
idea
there
would
be
uh
the
idea
there
would
be
to
get
you
know
to
get
folks.
You
know
to
empower
folks
to
protect
what
they
love
and
to
be
part
of
that
process.
K
So
I
think,
there's
some
real
fertile
ground
there,
uh
some
real
rich
ground
that
we
can
we
can
work
on
to
keep
folks
educated,
also
want
to
make
a
little
plug
about
looking
for
opportunities
around
there
to
increase
access
to
james
island
creek,
uh
whether
it
be
through
the
like
the
boardwalk
uh
project
that
the
town
has,
or
you
know
anything
like
that-
that
we
could
do
to
increase
public
access
to
the
creek.
I
think
is
going
to
go
a
long
way
towards
that
sense
of
establishing
culture
so
um
happy
to
take
any
questions.
B
Any
thoughts,
questions
for
andrew,
so
um
here's
the
thought
for
you.
um
It
kind
of
ties
in
that
um
your
your
thought
about
a
boardwalk
or
public
space
where
people
gonna
be.
I
was
in
uh
spartanburg
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
visiting
my
my
daughter
and
grandchildren
and
they
have
a
wonderful
linear
park
there
along
the
old
rail
line,
and
I
I
was
really
surprised
to
come
up
on
a
sign,
a
lot
kind
of
large
sign
that
had
a
map
of
the
drainage
basin.
B
That
happened
to
be
in
and
it
kind
of
explained
what
a
drainage
basin
was
and
all
like
that,
and
of
course
this
is
a
little
different
subject
matter.
But
um
you
know
some
explanatory
public
in
a
public
place
uh
signage
like
that
explaining
uh
showing
a
map
of
the
the
focus
area
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
what
people
can
do
to
get
engaged
and
all
anyway,
I
thought
it
was
really
cool.
K
H
K
D
L
Ashley,
because
that
I
was
going
to
bring
that
up,
and
so
the
city
and
the
town
are
jointly
working
together
on
a
um
a
park
brantley
park,
and
that
is
on
a
little
neck
of
james
island
creek,
and
uh
so
this
is
a
great
showcase.
uh
You
know
where
the
different
governments
are
working
together.
The
funds
for
that
park
for
purchasing
land
came
from
greenbelt,
so
it's
also
a
charleston
county
uh
project
as
well.
L
um
You
know
we
are
having.
We
had
a
little
stumbling
block
on
um
working
on
our
dock
and
um
we're
hoping
that
all
the
the
city
can
um
work
with
the
town
to
uh
move
forward
to
uh
get
access
to
the
water.
Maybe
some
uh
we're
really
looking
for,
hopefully,
some
kayak
or
canoe
access.
At
that
point,
um
I
don't
know
if
that,
if
I've
missed
anything
important,
I
guess
ashley
can
add
that
in.
L
D
I
think
it's
it's
matter,
it's
um
it's
pretty
much
done.
We
just
have
to
submit
our
final.
You
know
permit
documents
in
order
to
get
stamped
approval
and
and
that
basically
focused
on
the
parking
spaces
that
we're
going
to
provide
very
few
parking
spaces
and
uh
and
uh
a
part
of
the
the
multi-use
path
will
go
right
through
the
park
along
folly
road,
so
we're
trying
to
make
it
very
um
engaging
in
terms
of
getting
people
on
their
bikes
or
walking.
You
know
along
the
new
the
new
path
that
will
also
get
underway
in
2122.
D
M
D
Permitting
we'll
have
to
have
de-hook
permitting,
you
know
for
for
disturbing
the
marsh
again,
and
all
of
that
so
we'll
be
able
to
use
the
land
long
before
we
have
to.
You
know
worry
about
putting
a
new
dock.
In
my
personal
opinion,
I
think
it'll
be
a
great
way
of
getting
people
familiar
with.
You
know
the
opportunity
to
be
right
next
to
the
creek
if
they
don't
live
anywhere
close
to
one
in
their
own
neighborhood.
L
D
L
You
know
I
my
own
view
is:
I
just
think
that
we,
um
you
know,
need
the
public
to
um
contact
james
island
town
council
and
show
their
support
for
access
to
the
water
and
and
that's
what's
necessary.
If
there's,
we
don't
get
a
lot
of
public
input,
I
don't
think
there's
a
majority
on
council
that
wants
to
spend
much
of
any
money
on
this
project.
B
K
K
B
K
N
I'd
be
happy
to
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
um
We
met
and
talked
and
had
a
very
wide-ranging
discussion
on
a
variety
of
policy
measures
that
we
could
take
to
address
some
of
these
issues.
Everything
from
uh
zoning
and
land
use
changes
to
um
septic
tie-in
ordinances
along
the
lines
of
what
uh
folly
beach
has
used
over
the
years
um
uh
representative.
N
uh
What
moore
has
been
a
invaluable
resource
in
that
regard,
given
her
time
with
the
city
of
folly
beach
and
their
experience
over
there,
and
it's
not
quite
an
apples
to
apples,
comparison
between
folly
and
the
city
of
charleston
charleston
county
james
island,
just
due
to
some
unique
issues
out
of
folly
beach.
But
I
think
there
are
some
lessons
we
can
learn
from
that
and
we
look
forward
to
exploring
that
issue
uh
in
the
future.
N
But
it's
my
understanding
that
we
need
to
start
talking
about
uh
the
creation
uh
and
uh
development
of
a
watershed
plan
for
many
reasons,
one
of
which
is
to,
in
a
future
point
qualify
for
a
special
grant.
That's
issued
by
dhec
called
a
319
grant,
which
could
provide
substantial
resources
for
some
of
the
efforts
that
we're
we're
talking
about.
um
That's
number
one,
but
also
the
plan
is
a
is
a
good
working,
evolving
document
for
us
to
understand
what
are
the
various
action
steps
from
a
policy
standpoint
that
we
can
take
to
start.
N
You
know
actually
making
the
situation
on
the
ground
better
everything
from
education
to
infrastructure,
to
other
types
of
measures.
So
I
really
think
that
ought
to
be
a
pro
focus
and
priority
for
us
in
the
coming
days
to
start
talking
about
um
the
development
of
this
plan
and
doing
it
in
the
most
cost-effective
collaborative
uh
fashion
uh
possible.
So
that's
what
we've
got
going
on
on
the
policy
side-
and
um
you
know
andrew,
if
you
feel
like
uh
it's
it's
uh
important
to
add
in
some
some
details
on
that.
K
uh
Ross,
I
think
that
was
great.
um
I
think
it
was
great.
I
would
just
add
you
know
this,
isn't
something
I
think
we
can
delay.
I
think
we
need
to
act
and
act
relatively
quickly,
because
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
uh
eligible
as
soon
as
possible
for
319
grand
funds.
So
you
know
to
just
reiterate
what
ross
says
that
watershed
plan
is
is
a
precondition
to
seeking
those
319
grant
funds.
uh
You
know
we
did
um
reach
out.
K
I
know
uh
I
think
kathy
woolsey
reached
out
to
um
to
lisa
hajjar
who's
had
some
experience
with
both
319
and
watershed
planning
and
all
that
stuff
through
the
soil
and
water
conservation
district.
I
think
we
also
connected
with
wildlands
engineering,
uh
who
uh
has
you
know
the
expertise
to
be
able
to
do
this,
and
I
think
the
you
know
the
the
goal
here,
in
my
mind,
is
to
get
this
plan
done,
get
it
done
as
quickly
as
possible,
there's
likely
a
cost
associated
with
that
to
get
it
done
and
get
it
done
fast.
K
I
think
that
cost
can
be
hopefully
minimized
as
much
as
possible
in
the
sense
that
we
have
the
collective
experience
and
resources
in
here
to
to
hopefully
keep
that
down.
There
shouldn't
be
a
lot
of
new
information
that
needs
to
be
developed
or
researched
or
unearthed.
I
think
you
know
we
all
collectively
have
that
experience
and
resources
uh
amongst
ourselves,
so
um
I
would
encourage
the
task
force
to
uh
to.
K
B
K
K
M
um
You
know
if
the
group
was
able
to
provide
a
lot
of
the
information
and,
like
andrew
said,
I
think
we
could.
That
is
a
written
scope
that
I
I
can
circulate
to
as
big
a
group
as
we
need
to.
I
think
the
whole
policy
committee
has
seen
it
um
and
you
know
the
appropriate
entity
can
follow
up
with
them
or
if
there
are
other
qualified
entities
out
there.
um
You
know
we
just
started
with
wildlands
because
of
shim
creek
and
I'm
sure
there
are
a
number
of
entities
that
could
do
those
plans.
B
O
Yeah,
that's
correct
mayor,
so
their
original
moa
um
basically
envisions
a
total
monitoring
budget
for
the
basin
of
roughly
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
little
bit
less
than
fifty
thousand
dollars
per
year.
So
that's
what's
in
the
current
moa,
um
with
the
the
geographical
split
uh
leading
to
proportional
payments
from
the
town,
county
and
city
uh
respectively.
O
O
There's
a
lot
of
data
out
there
already
between
what
we've
done
with
thomas
and
hutton
collectively
on
the
island,
what
um
the
city
has
done
with
aecom
and
a
portion
of
the
basin
and
then
what
the
county
has
done
historically,
with
wolpert
on
kind
of
similar
basins
and
is
putting
together
with
the
uh
the
modeling,
I'm
sorry
the
monitoring
budget
for
the
basin
as
well.
So
I
think
we
have
some
good
options.
O
We
should
certainly
talk
about
what
the
best
approach
is
and
what
elements
we
want
to
see
in
a
plan
and
kind
of
get
that
hashed
out
to
make
sure
we're
we're
all
working
towards
the
same
goals
in
a
plan
and
that'll
also
give
us
a
much
better
cost
rating.
If
we
need
to
go
to
a
consultant
because
we'll
be
able
to
say
here's
exactly
what
we
want
to
do
in
the
plan,
rather
than
sort
of
asking
for
an
open-ended
approach
to
a
plan,
development
gotcha.
O
And
andrew,
the
only
thing
I
want
to
jump
in
on
that
is:
is
that
part
of
the
challenge
with
going?
That's
that
fast,
which
is
not
necessarily
a
inherent
problem,
is
that
319
generally
has
a
pretty
significant
match
component
to
it
for
work,
so
I
mean,
obviously
we
don't
have
that
match
budgeted
at
this
point
either,
so
we
don't
want
to
apply
for
grants
that
we
can't
show
a
match
in
funding
for
because
that
would
that
would
be
the
worst
case
scenario
right
is
to
have
to
turn
a
grant
back
over
again.
O
O
D
O
July
also,
okay,
so
I
mean
that
I
think
it's
definitely
something
we
want
to
move
forward
on.
We
don't
want
to
drag
our
feet
because
there
is
funding
out
there.
We
want
to
figure
out
what
we
can
do,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
the
right
thing,
because
that's
a
lot
of
money
that
we're
all
going
to
be
putting
together
into
this
and
having
to
find
in
our
budgets
right.
B
B
O
Yes,
yeah,
so
the
the
three
night,
the
watershed
master
plan
is
a
requirement
to
get
319
funding,
but
the
watershed
master
plan
is
not
a
requirement
for
the
tmdl
um
there's
a
whole
series
of
what
we
have
to
do
from
a
tmdl
eventually
moving
into
structural
measures
and
other
approaches,
and
this
can
help
fund
that
those
requirements
typically
don't
start
for
about
five
years
into
your
tmdl
process.
It
doesn't
mean
we
want
to
wait
that
long.
We've
all
talked
about
that.
K
A
bit
of
nuance,
real,
quick
there,
too,
is
that
you
know
the
tmdl
sets
out
the
targets
or
the
loading.
You
know
the
reductions
that
we'll
need
to
meet
in
order
for
the
creek
to
meet
its
water
quality
standard.
The
watershed
plan
is
a
more
detailed
document
about
how
you're
going
to
do
that,
and
so
I
think,
while
it's
not
required,
I
think
it's
an
important
piece
in
order
to
help
us
hit
those
reductions.
M
M
B
L
um
I
think
we
should
at
least
ask
tommen
and
thomas
and
hutton
to
um
you
know,
give
us
some
uh
scope
and
fee
regarding
the
um
this
um
watershed
plant,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
their
work
with
the
um
the
delineation,
you
know,
has
a
lot
of
overlap
with
um
what
we
need
here,
but
you
know,
maybe
they
won't
give
us.
As
you
know,
I'm
glad
we
have
already
have
one
uh
proposal.
Thank
you.
O
Gotcha
and
wait,
let
me
just
jump
in
really
quick
from
a
staff
perspective
at
the
city,
just
if
we
do
get
into
looking
for
options
here,
which
we
should
we
do
need
to
make
sure
we're
following
our
procurement
processes,
because
if
we're
going
to
be
funding
this
out
of
public
dollars,
we
can't
price
shop,
professional
service
firms.
We
have
to
potentially
go
out
for
qualifications
or
use
an
existing
contracting
mechanism.
O
B
P
Hey
chris
does
the
county
have
on-call
engineers.
Is,
is
thomas
and
hutton
already
on
that
list
for
y'all
it
may
be
that's
one
option
for
the
procurement.
If
you
have
a
list
of
on-call
um
and
then
you
get,
if
you
guys
acted
as
the
lead
procurement
agency,
that
might
be
one
way
to
solve
it.
I
don't
know
what
everybody's
codes
say.
J
Yes,
ma'am,
we
do
and
it's
it's
really.
um
We've
got
to
walk
a
line
of
the
of
the
use
of
the
money
and
the
the
requirement
for
the
tmdl
and
like
andrew
did
say
it
is.
It
could
become
even
part
of
if
not
the
implementation
plan,
even
perhaps
one
day,
but
um
right
now.
I
think
just
so
yes
ma'am
to
answer
your
question.
We
do
have
willpower
on
call
as
long
as
well
as
will
part
two
okay.
K
I
think
the
example
we
discussed
with
d
heck
was
the
seaweed
of
santee
project
that
happened
a
few
years
ago,
kind
of
north
mount
pleasant,
you
know
through
and
on
that
area,
um
and
so
I
think
it
could
be
used
uh
either
to
you
know,
pay
outright
for
connections
or
maybe
even
upgrades
or
replacements,
to
tanks
that
are
failing,
but
maybe
don't
have
access
to
water
and
sewer
that
sort
of
thing.
So
I
think
we
could.
Q
B
So
so
here's
a
question
for
everybody
and
I
know
we're
we're
talking
about
getting
a
watershed
plan.
That's
not
really
required
by
the
mandate,
so
we
can
get
grants,
but
do
you
think
there's
an
environmental
uh
group
or
two?
That
uh
would
be
that
issues,
grants
that
that
might
accept
the
application,
uh
give
us
a
grant
to
get
the
watershed
plan
done,
and
um
so
anybody
out
there
y'all
know
of
that.
We
could
ask
for
forty
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
um
to
get
the
watershed
plan
done.
A
No,
there
is
this
mark.
um
There,
there
is,
is
the
ashley
cooper,
stormwater
education
consortium
and
their
funding
is
simply
for
public
education.
Okay,
they
don't
do
anything
like
that
and
just
um
I
was
at
the
uh
scasm
meeting
today.
Virtually
that's
south
carolina
association,
storm
water
managers
and
there
was
a
presentation
fro
by
uh
shane
mccarthy
of
dhec
on
the
319
implementation
program,
and
um
they
do
have
a
septic
program
going
in
spartanburg.
I
think
it
was
find
and
fix
uh
for
septics
um
that
they're
using
319
funding,
for
so
this
is
doable.
R
R
H
D
I
I
think
just
listening
to
everyone
and
hearing
the
policy
committees
and
I'm
on
the
policy
committee
hearing
our
our
consensus
that
that
it
would
be
good
of
us
to
take
a
vote
on
recommending
that
we
that
we
promote
the
procurement
process
for
a
watershed
plan
to
the
next
level
of
activity
which
doesn't
start.
I
mean
it
doesn't
um
end
with
us,
so
we'd
have
to
get
into
the
procurement
phase
and
the
rfq
or,
however,
we're
going
to
handle
finding
the
right.
You
know
team
to
do
the
watershed
plan.
D
So
um
I'd
be
happy
to
make
that
motion
that
we,
that,
as
a
group
as
a
task
force
today,
we
approve
a
recommendation
to
the
funding
bodies
that
we
would
procure
a
watershed
plan
um
posthaste
as
soon
as
we
feel
comfortable,
that
we've
got
the
right
scope
and
the
um
and
and
the
reasons
that
we're
going
to
do
it
would
be
to
try
to
make
ourselves
eligible
for
the
319
grant
as
as
well
as
any
other
funding.
That's
out
there.
That
would
benefit
from
knowing
our
game
plan
through
through
a
holistic
watershed
plan.
L
B
Yes,
mayor
woolsey
yeah,
we
register
you
made
the
second
um
any
um
any
further
discussion
on
that.
I
think
we
kind
of
talked
about
it
already,
but
any
further
comments-
and
um
I
presume
that
kind
of
the
first
step
of
that
would
be
to
follow
um
matt
fountain's
comment
at
least
uh
have
the
policy
group
and
maybe
andrew
you
join
them.
B
You
sound,
like
you,
know
a
whole
lot
about
this
to
talk
about
the
scope
of
what
we're
looking
for
in
this
watershed
plan,
maybe
first
before
we
get
to
the
procurement,
I
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
put
the
cart
in
front
of
the
horse,
so
we
know
what
we're
what
we're
really
trying
to
go
after.
Does
that
sound,
reasonable.
K
L
Well,
this
is
uh
mayor
woolsey,
mayor
tecklenberg,
um
so
I
think
really
what's
going
to
hap
need
to
happen
is
that
um
the
town
and
the
city
and
the
county
are
going
to
have
to
decide
whether
we
take
this
recommendation
or
not,
and
you
know,
and
and
work
with
um
mr
wonderly
and
our
staff,
um
our
staff
chris,
want
to
make
her.
You
know
exactly
what
we're
looking
for
and
who
we
would
want
to
do
it
and
um
and
whether
we
can
somehow
the
three
of
us
and
it'll
be.
L
B
Understood
anyway,
um
we're
not
not
quite
a
governmental
body
like
uh
like
a
city
council,
we're
a
task
force,
but
we
certainly
want
to
have
consensus
moving
forward.
uh
So
I
guess
I
will
ask
for
um
if
there's
no
other
conversation
uh
or
comments,
uh
kind
of
a
show
of
hands
or
an
eye,
if
you
think
would
like
this
recommendation
moving
forward
uh
but
uh
spencer,
you
got,
you
want
to
add
something
to
it.
Well,.
P
I
did
just
have
a
question
just
as
far
as
the
procurement
piece
goes.
I'm
sure
staff
can
handle
this
much
better,
but
if
to
chris's
question
about
whether
the
funds
have
to
come
out
of
stormwater
funds
as
part
of
the
ms4,
and
that
may
help
you
know
with
finding
it,
but
it
also
is
a
limitation
in
some
ways
as
well.
So
I
just
want
to
flag
that.
F
D
I
guess
just
to
clarify
when
I
said
procurement,
I
meant
it
would
go
to
the
technical
staff
first,
um
because
they
they
would
have
to
agree
on
the
scope
and
then
and
then
we
would
get
the
agreement
from
the
from
the
jurisdictions.
As
far
as
you
know,
procuring
and
and
figuring
out,
where
the
money's
coming
from
once.
We
have
some
cost
proposals
to
consider,
but
based
on
a
scope
that
our
technical
staff
agree
is
the
right
way
of
going
right.
B
Exactly
all
right,
we
sound
like
we
have
consensus
that
that's
a
path
forward.
You
don't
want
to
say
I
or
raise
your
hand
or
object.
If
you
don't
like
the
idea,
anybody
against
it
all
right
well
um
sounds
like
we'll
uh
move
forward
and
and
try
to
get
that.
I
I
do
uh
want
to
just
acknowledge
we
got.
We
do
need
to
get
the
existing
mou
approved
by
everyone
uh
officially
uh
in
a
way.
B
First,
before
we
take
any
uh
formal
action,
but
then
the
next
thing
will
be:
if
um
um
council,
member
appel,
you
get
your
policy
group
back
together,
maybe
ad
whoever
might
be
helpful
to
that
andrew
or
anybody
else,
and
and
talk
about
the
scope
of
this
thing
and
then
we'll
we'll
look
at
the
procurement
side
of
it.
Go
after
that
all
right.
B
N
I
think
that
about
covers
it,
unless
I'm
missing
anything
that
anybody
uh
else
would
like
to
um
remind
me
of
from
our
discussion.
I
think
we
hit
most
of
the
high
points
and
um
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
get
at
this,
but
I
think
that
the
plan
is,
it
will
be
a
guiding
focusing
um
element
to
this
whole
thing,
because
you
know
we
could
just
go
off
in
a
million
different
directions
in
a
million
different
ways.
B
S
K
So
phil
this
is
andrew,
charleston,
water
keeper.
uh
I
don't
think
we
did
discuss
that.
A
really
really
interesting
question,
looking
at
sort
of
flow
dynamics
of
the
creek
and
how
that
affects-
and
I
think
there's
been
some
work
done-
some
really
preliminary
sort
of
graduate
level
studies
done
to
look
at
flow
volume
uh
after
rainstorms
and
there's
this
theory
that
maybe
the
creek
goes
really
low,
salinity
and
almost
fresh
during
some
heavy
rainstorms.
K
uh
I'm
a
little
surprised
about
the
idea
that
the
mouth
of
the
creek
is
only
a
foot
deep.
I
mean
we've
been
in
there
over
the
past
eight
years
on
all
tide
cycles
and
I've
never
run
a
ground
coming
in
and
out
of
the
creek.
The
only
time
I've
run
aground
is
when
I've
been
over
closer
to
the
marsh
and
over
closer
to
plum
island.
So
I
don't
know
what
the
current
situation
is.
There
I
mean
it.
K
You
know
it
seems
like
there's
plenty
of
water
getting
in
and
out
of
there
on
most
high
cycles,
but
we
could
definitely
go
out
there
and
take
a
look
at
low
tide.
One
time
see
if
we
can
get
the
boat
stuck
um
yeah
there
is,
you
know
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
flow
coming
out
of
there,
but
it's
not
it's
not
a
roaring
flow
like
sometimes
you
see
uh
in
other
creeks,
so
definitely
something
I
think
might
be
worth
exploring.
S
Yeah
I
mean
this
individual
that
shared
it
to
me,
he's
an
avid
outdoorsman,
and
so
he
actually
does
a
lot
of
gigging.
And
so
he
was
telling
me
that
you
know
he's
trying
to
explore
that
area
and
has
tried
to
get
up
there
at
low
tide
and
has
gotten
stuck
numerous
occasions.
And
maybe
he
just
doesn't
know
the
channel
and
that.
K
Yeah
you're
usually
looking
for
flounder
pretty
shallow
too,
uh
and
if,
if
he
is-
and
I'm
going
to
be
crude
for
a
second,
the
name
for
that
whole
area
over
in
front
of
plum
island
is
called
ship
plant
flats,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
folks
that
fish
redfish
over
there
fish
flounder
over
there
that
sort
of
thing.
So,
if
he's
a
little
more
off
to
that
side,
it
is
really
really
shallow,
but
if
he
comes
into
it,
if
he
swings
a
little
more
wide,
it
might
be,
it
might
be.
K
S
K
B
D
F
F
The
first
has
to
do
with
some
mapping
that
we've
done
and
I'm
very
pleased
to
report
that
mark
and
his
gis
folks
have
worked
in
concert
with
the
psd
david
hoffman's
folks
over
there
and
some
of
the
county
folks,
and
I
think
even
some
dhec
and
maybe
even
the
bcd,
cog
folks
and
we've
come
up
with
a
very
I
think,
very
comprehensive
map.
We
don't
um
espouse
it.
It's
100
correct,
but
we've
got
a
really
really
nice
map.
That's
put
together
and
we'd
be
glad
to
send
this.
F
The
first
is
a
map
that
basically
shows
an
aerial
of
the
entire
james
island
creek
drains
basin,
which
is
about
6.8
square
miles
and
then
there's
an
aerial
um
overlaid
on
on
top
of
it
and
within
that
map.
We
also
the
third
layer
that
we've
grown
on
here
is
the
existing
gravity,
sewer
systems
uh
within
the
jamestown
creek
drainage
basin,
and
then
we
identify
them
color
coded
wise
as
to
whether
those
those
sewer
lines
belong
to
the
james,
john
psd
or
charleston
water
system,
and
what
that
immediately
does
is
visually.
It
lets.
F
You
know
where
there
is
public
sewer
and
where
there
is
not
public
sewer
and
you
can
see
houses-
and
you
know
you
can
see
developments
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
the
the
second
map
um
is
actually
more
of
the
the
same.
But
it's
got
a
separate
layer
on
it.
It
was
too
busy
to
put
all
on
one
map
and
really
shows
all
of
the
existing
zoning.
F
So,
just
uh
by
looking
at
these
two
maps,
you've
got
a
lot
of
really
what
I
call
foundational
information
to
take.
A
look
at
and
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
tell
you
we
identified
in
this
mapping
what
we
believe
to
be
approximately
340
potential
septic
tanks
within
the
drainage
base,
and
it's
very
interesting
to
see
where
they're
located.
And
you
know
that
sort
of
thing.
And
so
again
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
share
those.
F
B
F
The
um
the
enterococci
bacteria
on
a
general,
I'm
sure,
all
aware,
are
found
in
warm-blooded
animals,
but
they
actually
have
the
technologies
now
where
they
can
even
delineate
whether
what
type
of
warm-blooded
animal
they
can
differentiate
between
deer
and
raccoons
and
squirrels
and
birds,
and
that
sort
of
thing,
and
so
we
just
thought
it
would
be
um
an
interesting
study
if
you
will
to
go
in
and
take
a
look
at
that
to
see
what
we're
really
dealing
with.
I
thought
the
comment
made
a
little
earlier
about.
F
F
We've
identified
two
laboratories
that
do
this
type
of
work
and
are
certified
this
type
of
work.
The
samples
are
not
cheap,
but
but
we
think
we
could
get
a
dozen
or
so
samples
at
our
two
two
locations
um
and
and
have
them
funded
for
that
amount
of
money,
and
then
at
least
we'd
have
a
little
bit
better
idea.
What
we're
dealing
with
that
would
be
some
terrific
data
in
our
view,
to
have
in
our
pocket
when
we
initiate
the
watershed
with
our
consultant,
whoever
that
may
be.
F
So
if
there's
no,
you
know
objection
to
us
doing
that,
or
the
way
that
we
have
proposed
to
go
about
doing
that.
We
put
that
on
the
table
for
the
task
force
to
consider
today
and
we'd
be
more
than
willing
to
get
with
whoever's
interested.
But
I
was
just
thinking
charleston
waterkeepers
would
be
you
know,
probably
the
lead
agency.
We
could
work
with
them,
develop
a
sampling
plan.
You
know
we
need
to
decide
whether
we
want
to
do
before
and
after
a
rain
event
on
an
incoming
side.
R
B
Well,
ken,
I
think
that's
very
gracious
of
you.
Thank
you.
um
That's
a
that's
a
great
offer
and
I
didn't
know
that
that
delineation
of
testing
was
available.
So
um
I
I
think,
he's
absolutely
right.
It'd
be
great
to
know
just
how
much
of
of
um
our
bacterial
sources
are
human
versus
more
natural,
so
to
speak.
O
B
O
Yeah
I'll
let
chris
probably
speak
to
it,
but
I
think
it
is
a
great
idea
and
it's
something
that
is
included
in
the
um
task
work.
We
have
with
woolpert
for
the
monitoring
within
the
basin,
that
the
city
passed
it
council
and
that
the
town
will
be
considering
the
county's
kind
of
managing
so
I'll.
Let
chris
add
a
little
bit
of
what
we've
looked
at,
but
we
could
certainly
use
some
funding
because,
as
um
as
ken
mentioned,
it's
it's
quite
expensive
as
type
of
testing.
O
H
O
Which
is
good,
because
that
shows
the
benefit
of
this
task
force
that
we're
all
coordinating
and
getting
a
chance
to
talk
to
each
other
about
all
the
different
ideas
we
have,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
us
have
similar
ideas.
So
it's
nice
that
we
can
all
work
together
and
make
it
as
efficient
as
possible.
B
B
C
B
Great,
thank
you
all
right.
Well,
thank
you
ken.
I
appreciate
that
report
and
that
good
work
and
I'll
send
out
those
maps
once
you
get
them
to
us
and
um
and
uh
we
we
should
be
able
to
move
forward
on
that
testing
as
well.
That's
great
any
other
uh
comments,
suggestions
to
come
before
our
task
force.
Today,
council,
member
appel.
N
N
I
mean
I
think
that
I'm
not
suggesting
this,
but
we
we
could
have
millions
of
people
living
on
james
island
and
no
fecal
bacteria
in
the
water
right.
It's
just
a
simple
question
of
infrastructure
making
sure
we
have
the
right
stuff
set
up
and
the
right
infrastructure
maintained.
That's
that's
what
it's
all
about,
so
um
look
forward
to
seeing
all
these
pieces
come
together
and
uh
this
works
contin.
This
group's
continued
great
work.
D
All
right
mayor,
another
another
good
segway.
I
see
um
kathy
woolsey
on
the
meeting
and
she
sent
out
an
email
today,
but
because
we're
of
love
to
the
public
I
was
hoping
we
could
ask
on
the
psd
to
make
their
very
great
report
about
the
the
completion
of
the
the
run
that
comes
across
camp
road.
I
mean
to
central
park
road.
H
H
B
Q
They
can
well,
we
completed
our
pump
station
too
it's
up
and
operational.
We
should
be
able
to
pump
about
a
third
more
water
than
we
were
able
to
in
the
past.
It
was
a
duplex
station.
Now
it's
a
triplex
station,
uh
bigger
pipes.
It
goes
all
the
way
to
plum
island
uh
bypass
it
in
pump
station.
One
now
which
will
save
us
some
energy
cost.
Q
B
Great,
that's
great
news:
terrific,
the
less
overflows,
we've
gotten
the
better
right
right,
absolutely
all
right
anything
else
to
come
before
us
this
afternoon.
Thank
you
all
for
being
part
of
the
task
force
we're
not
going
to
meet
again
until
next
year
january,
7th
and
um
about
the
same
time
four
o'clock
on
that
thursday.
B
So
I
I
guess
uh
this
first
time
I've
thought
even
thought
to
say
this,
since
we
have
thanksgiving
and
and
the
holidays
happy
holidays,
everyone,
if
I
don't
see
you
before
and
we'll
get
back
together
january,
7th
in
the
meantime,
we'll
complete
getting
our
mou's
approved.
We'll
start
looking
at
the
watershed
plan,
scoping
and
uh
and
we'll
come
back
to
y'all,
uh
we'll
share
the
maps
with
everyone,
and
you
could
start
working
on
uh
uh
some
zoning
changes
council
member
repel
um
so
anyway,
we've
got
plenty
to
do
in
the
meantime.