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From YouTube: Resiliency & Sustainability Advisory Committee 5/19/2022
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Resiliency & Sustainability Advisory Committee 5/19/2022
B
It's
good
to
see
everyone
and
I
was
said
to
welcome
new
members.
I
think
the
only
new
member
is
to
welcome
an
old
member
back
and
that's
council
member
seeking
good
to
see
you.
B
Glad
to
have
you
back
thanks,
so
are
we
good
to
go
katie.
C
B
All
right,
thank
you
for
everybody
joining
us,
so
we,
I
think
we
decided
we
get
together
every
other
time.
Virtually
is
that
right.
B
We're
maximizing
our
efficiency
absolutely
so.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us
this
morning.
Ask
you
to
just
join
me
for
a
moment
of
silence,
as
we
continue
to
reflect
on
and
pray
for,
those
who
are
suffering
in
in
the
country
of
ukraine.
Think
of
them
particularly
moment
of
silence.
B
Thank
you
amen,
but
I
tell
you:
you
see
those
pictures
of
mario
pole
that
city
that's
just
been
wiped
out,
and
if
this
doesn't,
you
know
remind
you
of
those
scenes
from
cities
in
world
war
ii
that
the
same
kind
of
thing
happened
to
it.
It's
just
it's
horrific,
it's
mine,
mind-boggling.
B
Anyway,
on
with
our
business,
we
got
a
couple
of
reports
from
katie
one
on
our
compost
pro
program,
and
then
we
might
recommend
the
council
trying
to
fund
a
little
bit
of
money
to
keep
it
going
and
talk
again
about
our
plastic
bag
ordinance.
So
if
I
may
just
turn
those
two
items
on
over
to
katie
and
appreciate
the
update.
A
Yes,
thumbs
up.
Thank
you.
Okay.
I
wanted
to
really
quickly
if
it's,
okay,
we
are
off
the
agenda
a
little
bit,
but
I
wanted
to
mention
that
we
had
a
lot
of
success
at
our
electric
lawn
care
expo
on
april
30th.
We
have
all
the
information
and
some
pictures
on
our
website.
There's
chip
from
our
storm
water
department.
A
We
also
have
mark
from
recreation
council
member
seekings
came
lots
of
great
information
was
shared.
We
had
over
40
residents,
purchase
new
electric
equipment
and
many
of
them
bought
more
than
one.
So
you
can
see
on
this
web
page.
We
have
got
all
kinds
of
benefits
and
resources
for
any
residents
or
businesses
looking
to
transition
to
electric.
We
were
also
very
fortunate
that
lowe's
and
ego
donated
two
electric
blowers
for
our
city
staff
to
test
and
demo
and
start
using,
so
our
departments
are
using
those
right
now
and
testing
them
out.
A
All
right,
there
are
no
questions
on
that.
So,
as
as
you
all
know,
we
started
a
pilot
composting
program
in
january
and
it's
an
action
that
directly
implements
our
climate
action
plan
and
it's
of
course
important,
because
when
we
send
organic
materials
to
the
landfill
and
they
don't
break
down
with
oxygen,
they
release
methane,
which
is
much
more
potent
than
carbon
dioxide
at
trapping
heat
in
their
atmosphere
and
since
organics
are
the
largest
part
of
our
waste
stream.
A
It's
really
important
that
this
is
in
our
climate
action
plan
and
that's
why
we're
implementing
it
and
it
helps
us
achieve
three
different
goals
in
our
climate
action
plan.
So
the
program
is
a
drop
site
program.
We
have
three
sites
that
we're
testing
it's
a
pilot
project.
We
were
able
to
get
the
grant
extended
through
december
31st
2022,
so
that
will
line
up
with
our
budget
cycle
perfectly.
A
However,
our
funding
will
end
on
december
31st,
so
we
did
some
data
and
analysis
to
try
to
figure
out
how
we
could
continue
this
program
because
it
has
had
a
lot
of
success.
Here's
an
example
of
a
food
scrap
drop-off
site
at
ackermann
park.
You
can
see
the
permanent
signage
we
recently
installed
there
and
we
have
some
new
lids
and
locking
features
that
don't
have
chains
anymore.
A
A
You
can
see
the
difference
in
the
amount
of
people
we
reached
virtually
versus
an
in-person
event
in
march.
There's
of
course,
advantages
to
doing
it
in
person
burst
virtual,
but
I
love
this
hybrid
approach,
so
appreciate
mayor
teclenberg,
mentioning
that
we've
also
been
promoting
our
program
at
weekly
at
the
west
ashley
farmers
market,
and
we
purposely
put
one
of
the
drop
sites
at
ackermann
park.
So
we
could
do
that.
We've
reached
over
300
people
in
the
five
weeks.
So
far,
we've
had
lots
of
great
volunteers.
A
You
can
see
stewart
and
megan
from
mcgill
there
with
us
logging
over
40
hours
a
week,
and
it's
been
really
fun
just
talking
and
engaging
with
residents
and
getting
feedback
from
them.
That
way
too,
thanks
to
betsy
in
the
coastal
conservation
league.
She
helped
us
make
sure
we
proclaim
may
1st
through
7th,
as
international
compost
awareness
week,
so
brought
a
lot
more
attention
to
composting
that
way.
She
also
helped
promote
it
at
a
charleston
green
drinks
event,
which
was
focused
on
composting.
A
We
also
have
a
climate
ambassador
program.
That's
reached
over
a
thousand
people,
and
part
of
that
presentation
is
to
talk
about
our
new
climate.
Our
new
compost
program,
so
you
can
see
here.
Ambassador
danielle
is
from
our
actually
from
our
east
side,
neighborhood
and
she's,
presenting
to
a
bunch
of
high
school
students
in
this
picture
and
of
course
we
have
lots
of
efforts
going
on
social
media.
A
We
started
an
instagram
page
recently,
I'm
pretty
proud
that
we're
up
to
134
posts
for
not
having
any
dedicated
staff
for
communication
and
outreach,
but
you
can
see
we
have
a
lot
of
posts
on
our
social
media.
Hopefully,
you've
been
following
us
and
we
have
been
fortunate
to
receive
a
lot
of
shares
from
partner
organizations.
A
So
thanks
everyone
for
your
support
there
and
then
an
exciting
outreach
opportunity
recently
happened
was
completing
the
loop
so
that
compost
loop
is,
you
know
once
we
create
this
product,
how
does
it
go
back
into
our
soils
and
nourish
our
soils?
So
we
are
I'm
excited
to
announce.
A
We
were
able
to
recently
complete
that
loop
and
with
the
help
of
mcgill
compost
and
the
charleston
parks
conservancy,
we
were
able
to
get
some
of
that
compost
back
into
our
city
parks
and
gardens,
and
you
can
see
here
a
picture
of
a
flower
bed
at
medway
park,
community
garden,
where
charleston
parks
conservancy,
is
actually
going
to
test
the
difference
between
the
mushroom
compost
and
the
bees
bath
compost
and-
and
it's
pretty
neat
to
see
that
that's
going
back
into
our
community.
A
So
how
about
some
data?
So,
let's
jump
right
in
so
we
have
over
800
households
participating
at
the
three
drop
sites.
Yes,
thank
you
stuart
for
the
collapse
we
have.
The
majority
are
at
ackermann
park,
which
is
a
mustache
which
makes
sense
it's
surrounded
by
the
most
neighborhoods
in
the
most
populated
area,
followed
by
corinne
jones
park
on
the
peninsula
and
then
medway
park
on
james
island,
which
also
touches
some
johns
island.
Folks
that
trans
traverse
by
it
daily.
A
And
just
some
testimonials
and
images
from
participants
in
action
people
really
enjoy
this
program.
I've
received
lots
of
feedback
about
how
it
cuts
down
on
garbage,
taking
out
the
garbage
left
the
garbage
not
smelling
anymore,
things
like
that
is
exciting.
I
visit
the
park
regularly
anyway,
so
why
not
bring
along
my
food
scraps?
It's
easy
to
do
my
kids
love
composting
and
these
children
particularly
loved
opening
the
lock
that
is.
A
We
live
in
an
apartment,
so
we
don't
have
a
yard
to
compost
at
home,
so
we
drop
our
food
scraps
off
and
then
head
straight
to
the
dog
park.
It's
really
convenient
for
us,
and
I
love
this
one.
This
was
yesterday
at
the
farmers
market,
showing
the
empowerment
of
the
next
generation
and
this
young
child
composting,
a
banana
peel
that
she
ate
directly
at
the
market,
which
is
really
neat.
A
So
we
set
a
goal:
we're
very
data
driven
in
the
city
of
charleston,
especially
for
our
sustainability
efforts.
So
we
set
a
goal
to
reach
500
people,
which
we
did.
We
made
it
to
800
and
to
divert
20
tons
of
food
scraps
in
our
pilot
period
of
six
months.
So
that
requires
about
three
and
a
half
tons
a
month,
and
you
can
see
we
are
exceeding
that
already.
We
are
on
track
to
exceed
this
20-ton
goal
in
our
pilot
period.
So
that's
pretty
exciting.
A
So
we
started
looking
at
costs
for
the
program
and
the
monthly
cost,
for
this
is
less
than
a
dollar
per
household.
So
that's
pretty
exciting.
Now,
when
you
compare
that
with
there's
an
amazing
compost,
hauler
that
picks
up
curbside
at
residence,
homes
which
runs
40
a
month,
so
that
it's
a
pretty
big
difference
there
when
we're
getting
to
a
dollar
a
month,
first,
forty
dollars
a
month,
so
we
started
saying
well
how
do
we?
How
does
this
compare
to
our
to
our
curbside
garbage
costs?
A
So
we
got
some
data
from
our
environmental
services
division
that
points
out.
We
pay
about
six
dollars
and
forty
cents
per
household
per
month
for
curbside
garbage
service
and
now,
of
course,
we
all
know
in
that
curbside
garbage
service,
we're
collecting
food
waste,
whether
we
like
it
or
not,
about
25
of
that
garbage
collected
is
food
scraps.
A
So
now,
while
this
isn't
a
perfect
apple
samples,
comparison,
we're
just
taking
that
that
25
chunk
and
saying
that's
about
a
dollar
and
60
per
household
per
month
that
is
dedicated
to
collecting
food
scraps,
and
when
you
compare
that
with
the
cost
of
our
drop
site
program,
it
makes
sense
that
it
would
be
less
because
the
the
drop
site
program
is
about
aggregating
material
into
into
less
locations
rather
than
picking
it
up
at
each
individual
address.
So
it
would
make
sense
that
it
would
be
a
more
affordable
option.
A
So
I
love
this
graph
because
I
think
it
shows
the
real
potential
for
how
we
could
see
our
garbage
costs,
reducing
our
expenses
reducing
over
time
as
more
people
participate
in
the
compost
program.
Think
of
you
know:
less
less
less
trips,
less
trucks,
full
less
routes,
potentially
less
trucks,
less
staff,
that's
of
course
much
further
in
the
future.
We
need
to
ramp
up
the
program
a
lot
to
get
to
that
scale
of
impact,
but
the
potential
is
there.
A
A
Now,
let's
see
how
that
actually
directly
impacts
our
emissions
goals,
so
in
2018
you
can
see
on
the
left,
that
is,
our
emissions
from
food
scraps
in
the
entire
city.
Without
any
composting
programs
now
2022,
the
next
bar
shows
our
pilot
project.
A
So
that's
with
just
the
three
sites
we're
hitting
about
one
percent
of
households
right
now,
so
you
can
see
it
there's
a
hundred
about
a
hundred
metric
tons
of
carbon
dioxide
equivalent
being
reduced
just
by
the
pilot
program
right
now,
which
doesn't
seem
like
a
lot
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things,
but
remember
every
little
bit
counts.
Every
little
bit
adds
up
these.
These
emissions
are
from
food
scraps,
acro
city-wide,
so
there's
part
of
this.
That's
residential,
there's
part
of
this
commercial
restaurants.
A
Businesses
are
all
included
in
this
and
unfortunately,
we
don't
track
waste
data
in
a
way
that
we
can
separate
out
those
sectors.
A
But
if
you
look
at
the
third
bar
you
can
see,
this
is
our.
What
we
are
proposing
for
2023
would
be
expanding
the
compost
program
to
six
sites,
doubling
the
sites
and
reaching
about
five
percent
of
households,
and
we
can
do
that
with
the
help
of
our
partners,
specifically
charleston
county,
who
is
also
going
applied
for
the
same
grant.
We
did
and
is
trying
to
create
drop
sites
at
their
convenience
centers,
and
we
will
know
if
those
grants
were
approved
next
month.
So
that's
pretty
exciting,
so
that
would
truly
make
it
a
regional
program.
A
So
you
can
see
the
impact
over
time
if
we
can
get
down
to
15
of
households
composting
how
how
we're
really
starting
to
make
a
dent
in
those
emissions
and
and
how
those
really
add
up.
You
can
see
that
red
line
is
our
2030
goal.
So
that's
where
we
need
to
get
to
so
you
know
dale
always
says
large
ships
turn
slowly.
A
So
this
is
a
process
that
will
take
time
to
gather
more
attention
and
to
grow
our
program,
so
so
the
cost
to
to
get
this
up
to
a
six
site
program
and
that
is
with
grant
funding
to
pay
for
all
the
signage
and
etc.
So
this
cost
would
just
be
for
the
hauling
would
be
about
twenty
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
the
investment
that
we
are
hoping
to
request
in
the
budget
this
year
to
expand
the
program
to
continue
and
expand
the
program.
A
So
I
thought
I
would
mention
all
that
data
and
then
put
it
go
back
to
the
committee
and
I'd
love
to
hear
any
discussion.
You
have
any
questions,
any
thoughts
that
you
think
we
can
improve
the
program
at
this
time.
So
thank
you.
E
C
You're
welcome
you're,
welcome.
I
think
the
most
impressive
experience
that
I've
had
is
hearing
from
the
people
who
have
come
by
who
said.
Oh,
I
didn't
know
we
could
do
this
in
our
homes.
I
always
thought
that
composting
we
needed
something
in
the
backyard,
and
so
it's
an
eye
opener
and
it's
an
education
for
individuals
who
realize
now
they
can
do
something
with
their
food
waste
and
they
don't
need
to
compost
in
their
backyard.
C
They
could
bring
them
to
one
of
the
sites
so
and
how
appreciative
so
many
people
were
or
are
of
having
that
availability
for
them.
B
That's
great
so
oh
yeah,
christine
hey.
E
A
That's
a
great
point
and
we
are
actually
encouraging
people
to
compost
in
their
backyards.
First
because,
like
you
said
it's
even
better,
there's
no
transportation,
they're
reusing
that
soil
right
in
their
yards
and
they
get
to
keep
all
the
compost
for
themselves.
So
that
is
our
first
push.
We
ask
folks,
you
know:
do
you
have
a
yard?
Are
you
interested
in
trying
it
and
we
give
them
guides
to
help
them
diy
it
at
home?
B
So
a
little
report
and
in
a
question
might
be
an
oddball
question,
but
just
I
saw
the
slide
there
of
the
community
garden
and
how
we're
putting
the
compost
to
use
we.
We
are
finalizing
an
amendment
to
our
lease
with
charleston
water
service.
That's
going
to
allow
us
to
create
a
new
community
garden
on
the
greenway
property,
so
that'll
be
nice
great
and
then
just
in
the
process
of
talking
with
them.
B
Ken
hill
at
cws
put
us
in
touch
with
the
leadership
out
at
clemson
extension
so
further
out
the
greenway
we
hope
to
partner
with
clemson
to
do
some
more
community
gardens
out
there
so
create
some
more
places
for
us
to
use
compost
for
some
reason.
This
question
popped
in
my
head.
While
you
were
making
the
the
presentation-
and
I
I
almost
hesitate-
because
I
bet
this
is-
is
not
something
that
we
necessarily
want
to
promote.
B
We
prefer
folks
to
either
compost
in
their
backyard
or
be
part
of
this
program,
but
I'm
just
thinking
out
loud
has
anybody
ever
looked
at
the
efficiency
or
or
benefit
of?
If
you're
not
composting,
of
putting
your
food
scraps
in
the
in
the
garbage
disposal,
a
lot
of
people
have
them.
Some
people
don't
versus
putting
it
in
the
waste
stream
ending
up
in
the
landfill.
B
E
Well,
I
think
it's
not
recommended
because
when
you
grind
up
that
food
waste-
and
it
goes
into
the
water
system
or
the
the
waste
water
system-
and
then
it
ends
up
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
so
they
have
number
one.
They
have
to
deal
with
it
and
number
two.
It
adds
a
lot
of
nutrients
to
the
water
which
take
a
lot
of
oxygen
to
break
down.
B
B
B
That
makes
sense,
but
anyway
the
question
occurred
to
me,
so
this
take
that
off
the
record,
we're
not
going
to
promote
that
at
all.
I
just
question
occurred
to
me
all
right,
so
I
don't
know
about
y'all,
but
it
seems
to
me,
like
you
said
it
was
ten
or
twenty
thousand
dollars
you'd
be
requesting
next
year.
A
B
I
see
it
seems
like
a
reasonable
request
to
me,
based
on
the
what
what
looks
like
a
good
cost
benefit
anybody
object.
Do
you
want
to
recommend
the
city
council
that
we
support
that
next
year
or
20
000
dollar
commitment
for
this.
C
What
would
be
the
the
three
sites
that
would
be
added?
Do
we
know
yet.
A
We
don't
know,
but
our
ideal.
We
would
want
to
make
sure
we
we
try
to
get
one
in
every
borough.
So,
for
example,
right
now
it's
hard
to
promote
the
program
to
anyone
on
daniel
island
because
there's
not
a
drop
site
there.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
want
to
try
to
reach
everyone
when
we
expand
it,
which
is
why
the
six
sites
is
really
important.
D
B
A
B
B
We
were
saving
quite
a
few
box
loads
of
mattresses
from
going
to
the
landfill.
By
doing
that,
apparently,
the
the
cost
of
the
program
was
just
that
the
recycler
is
up
in
florence
or
somewhere
up
in
the
pd,
and
there
was
transportation
to
take
the
containers
up
to
him
when
we'd
collect
them.
But
personally,
I'd
like
to
see
us.
A
A
Okay,
so
I
wanted
to
first
mention
that
since
I've
been
at
the
farmers
market
every
week,
we've
I've
noticed
we
have
these
signs.
We
have
three
signs
that
we
we
purchased
with
grant
funds
a
couple
years
ago
and
harrison
our
farmers
market
manager
has
been
putting
these
out
every
week
at
both
of
our
markets
and
I've
noticed
a
huge
uptick
in
reusable
bag
usage
there.
So,
oh,
I
would
say
over
half
probably
closer
to
80
percent
of
users
of
shoppers.
A
At
least
the
west
ashley
market
are
bringing
their
own
reusable
bags,
and
it's
really
neat
to
see.
There
was
a
noticeable
difference
from
week,
one
when
people
were
start
to
get
back
in
the
swing
of
things
and
then
week
two,
I
think
the
signs
really
helped,
and
now
people
really
feel
like
it's
important.
So
I
wanted
to
share
that.
Our
outreach
and
education
on
the
reusable
bags
has
been
successful
at
the
farmers
markets.
A
Now
we
have
there's
one
of
the
challenges.
One
challenge
we
have
with
our
ordinance
is
is
fairly
straightforward
to
address.
We
haven't
wanted
to
address
it
because
of
covid
concerns,
but
basically
we
have
some
organizations
that
are
producing
these
plastic
bags
that
are
extra
thick
that
meet
the
four
mil
requirement
instead
of
paper
bags.
A
If
you
can
imagine
this
is
not
a
problem
specific
to
charleston.
This
is
a
problem
that
the
entire
world
has
faced,
so
there
are
already
solutions
out
there,
so
we
reached
out
to
some
of
the
municipalities
that
have
faced
this
challenge
and
asked
them.
You
know
how
did
you
change
your
ordinance?
A
What
worked
what
didn't,
and
this
example
amendment
which
you
can
see
this
is
our
definition
of
reusable
carryout
bag
right
now,
and
the
area
in
bold
and
underlined
is
what
we're
proposing
to
change,
and
that's
just
based
on
what
barrington,
rhode
island
in
all
of
rhode,
island
and
massachusetts
has
changed
their
ordinance
to
and
it
has
worked
for
them.
So
that's
why
we
are
proposing
this.
This
verbiage
change
to
address
the
extra
thick
reusable
bags,
and
we
think
this
will
work.
A
I
will
also
mention
that
this
is
also
an
easy
opportunity
for
us
to
consider
the
cutlery,
the
extra
cutlery
we
get
so
think
of.
Like
you
know,
if
you
order
doordash,
it
comes
straight
to
your
door
and
it
comes
in
a
bag
with
all
kinds
of
extra
things
that
you
don't
need
in
your
home,
because
you
already
have
silverware
in
your
home
when
you
go
through
a
drive-through,
a
lot
of
times,
you're
taking
that
home
with
you.
So
this
just
adds
that
step
where
a
customer
has
to
actually
say.
A
Yes,
I
need
the
silverware
and
then
they
can
receive
it
now.
In
this
example,
cutlery
is
still
exempt.
We
are
not
proposing
to
change
that
exemption.
We're
just
saying
it
needs
to
be
given
by
request.
That's
that's
what
that
means.
A
So
I'll
put
it
back
mayor,
techenberg
who's,
our
chairman
to
for
any
committee
discussion.
If
you
would
like
to
make
a
recommendation
that
this
amendment
go
to
city
council,
you
may
do
that
or
whatever
you
suggest.
D
With
these
thicker
bags
that
you're
talking
about,
I
know
part
of
what
we
were
talking
about
when
we
were
eliminating
these
bags
was
that
they
couldn't
go
through
the
recycle
machines.
They
were
too
thin
and
couldn't
be
recycled,
but
those
thicker
bags
do.
We
still
have
the
same
situation.
Is
that
the
problem
they
also
cannot
be
recycled.
A
D
So
I
guess
my
question
is:
is
there
a
certain
thickness
when
can
it
go
through
I
mean?
Is
there
a
certain
thickness
to
a
plastic
bag,
or
or
whatever
I
mean?
Certainly
they
recycle
plastic
bottles.
So
there's
a
certain
thickness
there
that
can
that
can
go
through
these
machines?
Is
there
a
thickness
that
we
could
go
to
that?
We
can
say:
okay,
yep,
that
bag
can
be
recycled
and
and
we'll
be
okay.
A
A
Even
if
you
had
a
little
tiny
piece
of
paper
that
would
fall
out
of
the
machine,
even
though
paper
is
recyclable.
So
that's
the
small
item
bags
are
just
jamming
the
machines
up,
so
I
don't
believe
that
there,
any
amount
of
thickness
would
change
that
they
are.
They
are
just
affecting
how
the
machines
function
and
jamming
them.
B
What
does
the
stitching
accomplish?
Is
it
the
reusability
of
the
handle.
A
It's
every
every
reusable
bag
that
you
would
think
of
as
a
reusable
bag
has
stitching
on
the
handle
versus
this
bag.
Does
not
it's
heat
fused?
So
that's
just
finding
the
difference
between
the
two
two
types
of
bags.
C
A
Even
even
a
bag
like
this
that
comes
in
a
little
bag
has
stitching
around
the
handle.
B
E
E
That
that
plastic
question
from
council
member
shealy,
the
the
plastic
that
one
thing
I
do
when
I
educate
people
on
plastic
recycling
is
I
try
to
tell
them
that
rigid
items
are
generally
recyclable
and
anything
that's.
A
soft
plastic
is
generally
not
recyclable
and
it
really
does
have
everything
to
do
with
the
recycling
system
at
the
material
recovery
facility.
E
E
You
know
any
kind
of
soft
plastic
that
you
can
think
of
just
gets
wrapped
around
all
those
gears
and
processes,
and
it
shuts
the
plant
down
for
hours,
and
then
you
have
staff
that
has
to
go
in
there
and
physically
remove
all
of
this
and
that's
dangerous
and
time-consuming.
So
we
do
not
want
any
of
these
materials
in
their
recycling
material
recovery
facility.
B
B
C
Well,
there
also
may
there
also
be
a
tendency
to
reuse
it.
What
we're
finding
is
that
places
I'll
use
liquor
stores
as
an
example
who,
when
we
had
the
single
ban,
a
single
use
ban,
they
went
to
a
thicker
one,
and
most
people
bring
them
home.
They
don't
reuse
those
plastic
bags,
they
put
them
in
the
in
in
the
garbage
and
that's
causing
that
issue.
So
by
actually
putting
that
closet
about
stitching
people
are
going
to
tend
to
reuse
those
more
than
they
would
even
think
of
using
those
thicker
plastic
bags.
C
So
the
the
municipalities
or
states
that
have
made
this
change
did
they
go
through
any
process
of
of
trying
to
educate
businesses
and
and
people
in
the
community
about
the
change
before
it
was
implemented.
A
A
Yes,
that
is
part
of
the
code
that
I
didn't
put
on
a
slide,
but
it
the
ordinance
would
we're
proposing
it
takes
effect
within
in
six
months,
so
it
gives
time
to
adjust
and
use
existing
supply
and,
of
course,
you
know,
there's
always
the
request
for
exemption
is
also
a
possibility.
If
there's
extra
supply
there,
all
right.
C
Yeah,
just
simply,
you
know,
let's
just
make
sure
it's
obvious.
We
would
do
a
communications
campaign
with
the
information
office
of
the
city
and
work
with
the
newspapers
and
the
media
to
make
sure
that
they
also
help
amplify
that
hey
this
is
this
has
been
amended.
Our
approach
is
going
to
change
on
a
date
certain
in
2023
and
keep
up
so
that
this
doesn't
take
people
by
surprise.
That
would
be
on
us,
but
we
would
want
to
make
sure
that
the
citizenry
is
is
prepared.
B
And
what
about
the
cutlery
question?
Anybody
got
a
comment
or
question
about
that.
In
other
words,
you
would
have
to
request
the
the
cutlery
rather
than
just
everybody
automatically
putting
it
in
there
and
then
you
get
home
and
you
use
your
own
silverware
and
you
throw
the
other
or
you
have
a
whole
drawer
through
full
of
cutlery.
Did
you
at
some
point
we'll
throw
away.
E
Hey
this
is
christine.
I
wanted
to
say
that
I
think
this
is
another
good
step
in
the
right
direction,
but
I
really
feel
like
we
ought
to
at
some
point
think
about
going
to
all
compostable
cutlery,
because
the
majority
of
people,
if
you
give
them
a
box,
that's
compostable
and
cutlery.
That's
plastic!
C
I'm
sorry
I'm
on
mute.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity,
sir.
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
ask
you
a
question
about
the
cutlery
thing.
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
workers
that
actually
go
get
their
lunch
and
take
out
lunch
and
they're
gonna
need
cutlery
to
to
probably
eat
it
and
not
take
it
home.
This
will
probably
require,
in
my
opinion,
I
could
be
completely
wrong
here.
C
Some
proactive
means
by
the
restaurant
providing
the
the
note
that
there's
no
cutlery
in
your
bag
because
when
you
come
in,
you
pick
up
your
bag
and
you
leave
and
then,
if
you
get
to
your
location,
where
you're
gonna
eat
on
a
park
bench
or
wherever
it
might
be
at
work
site,
and
you
open
it
up
and
there's
no
cutlery
in
there,
then
you
get
a
problem.
C
You
can't
eat
your
food,
so
I
I
just
think
the
notion
here
about
providing
it
in
terms
of
presenting
that
cutlery
in
there
in
front
of
them
in
a
counter
or
something
might
be
the
way
to
go
because
then
they
can,
they
can
get
it
it's
more
in
their
face.
So
this
might
be
a
little
counter
to
the
purpose
of
this
this
item
here,
but
I'm
just
thinking
about
the
fact
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
do
take
out
food
that
eat
it
off
not
at
home.
So.
A
So
if
we
were
to
change
just
the
silverware
we'd
be
missing
a
huge
opportunity,
it
would
be
a
chance
to
change.
Eventually,
this
ordinance
needs
to
become
all
compostable
but
with,
but
I
I
don't.
I
don't
necessarily
feel
like
we
are
there
yet,
but
that
is
why
we
started
with
just
recyclable
and
compostable
materials.
E
A
Yes,
there
are,
you
know
if
you
go
to
california,
the
requirements
are
just
compostable,
you
know
hawaii,
it's
just
compostable.
It's
just
cough
bags,
no
plastic
at
all.
B
A
Well,
that
would
be
a
pretty
big
change.
I'd
recommend
a
whole
bunch
of
education
before
we
made
a
change
like
that
versus
these
items.
Here,
I
think,
are
fairly
straightforward
that
we
that
we
could
potentially
do
a
lot
faster,
but
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
there's
always
challenges
with
any
program,
and
education
is
a
huge
component
of
it.
So.
B
Right
but
rick
makes
a
good
point.
I
mean
if
you
got
a
lunch
spot
and
they're
serving
a
lot
of
blue-collar
workers
and
they're.
Just
picking
up
lunch.
B
You
know
I
I
get
it
if
you
like,
calling
a
restaurant
and
picking
it
up
to
to
take
home
in
the
evening.
Maybe
I
don't
know
it
could
get
complicated.
What
do
y'all
think
so.
A
The
I
think
the
idea
is
that
the
businesses
could
still
provide
you
know,
self-service
containers.
You
can
still
grab
them
if
you
need
them,
but
it's
more,
for
example,
doordash
adds
items
on
their
menu
that
says
check
here.
If
you
need
utensils,
if
you're
in
the
drive-through,
they
would
ask
you,
do
you
need
a
straw?
Do
you
need
cutlery?
A
B
Right,
well,
I
I'm
real
big
on
on
the
straws,
because
I
don't
use
straws
anymore
and
if,
whenever
I
go
in
a
restaurant,
they
put
straws
in
there-
and
I
didn't-
I
didn't-
want
a
straw
and
quit
giving
me
all
these
straws.
You
know,
but
anyway,
anybody
got
any
objections
to
moving
this
forward.
I
guess
might
be
the
way
to
put
it
yeah.
E
C
D
You
know,
I
guess
I
guess
I
need
to
do
a
little
more
research
on
this.
I
guess
I
don't
understand
how
walmart
can
say,
bring
back
your
bags
and
we
can
recycle
them
for
you
do
they
have
different
equipment.
I
mean
what
what's
different
about.
Why
can
walmart
recycle
these
thicker
bags
and
say
you
know
they're
totally
recyclable,
and
then
we
have
other
groups
that
say
no
they're,
not
recyclable,
and
you
know,
is
it
a
matter
of
us
needing
to
upgrade
our
equipment,
so
we
can
recycle
material.
A
It's
a
great
question
and
it
has
to
do
with
what
different
facilities
accept
different
materials
to
be
recycled
and
it
does
depend
on
their
equipment
available
and
their
system
that
in
the
program
that
they've
created.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
companies
that
will
say
this
product
I
created
is
recyclable,
but
if
the
the
recycling
program
doesn't
take
it
now,
it's
not
recyclable
right.
So
if
there's
no
program
that
will
take
it,
then
it's
just
disposed
of
in
the
trash.
A
E
That's
so
you
know,
you've
got
all
that
stuff
in
the
bag,
so
whatever's
in
that
bag,
whether
it's
recyclable
or
not.
It's
not
going
to
get
recycled,
because
it's
a
contaminant
at
that
point
because
it's
in
the
bag
and
like
katie,
said
at
the
grocery
store,
they're
working
with
totally
different
markets
than
the
murphs
are
they're
working
with
a
totally
different
system.
E
B
Gotcha
all
right
well,
that
makes
that
makes
sense
it's
complicated,
but
it
makes
sense.
Well,
I
love
talking
trash,
but
let's
move
on
if
we
could
to
the
electric
vehicles
and
infrastructure,
that's
a
very
important
topic.
I
think
if
it's
all
right
with
y'all
ass
katie,
I
know
you
mentioned
that
we
get
this
going
first
and
maybe
the
other
jurisdictions
will
kind
of
follow.
B
Let's
take
another
month
on
this
and
see
if
we
can
get
a
couple
of
those
other
jurisdictions
on
board
with
us
at
the
same
time
and
and
and
bring
this
back,
does
that
sound
reasonable
to
y'all
all
right
terrific?
B
So
I
see
danny
cass's
or
I
did
a
minute
ago,
but
we
have
westy
westmoreland,
I
think
with
dominion,
energy
next
up
to
talk
about
electric
vehicles
and
infrastructure,
it's
a
it's!
A
hot
topic!
There's
some
federal
funding
out
there
available
to
help
us
down
the
road.
So,
let's,
let's
figure
this
thing
out
danny
you
want
to
start
it
give
us
over
to
westy
yeah,
I'm
going
to
turn
you
over
to
westy.
C
B
G
G
Great
so
katie
I
have
not
cannot
log
on
from
the
computer
for
the
link.
I
was
only
able
to
log
on
through
my
phone.
Do
you
have
the
slides
available
that
you
could
put
up
for
the
for
the
group.
G
G
G
So,
just
real,
quick,
where
we
are
as
a
ev
passenger
market
worldwide,
huge
increase
of
the
amount
of
adoption
from
electric
vehicle
space
in
the
u.s,
but
especially
in
china
and
western
europe.
You
kind
of
see
the
fourth
quarter
spike.
The
s
curve
has
started
to
form
and
we
essentially
had
an
inflection
point,
early
2000
or
2021,
so
even
in
the
fourth
quarter.
Excuse
me
first
quarter
of
22
we're
seeing
large
industrialized
zones
like
europe
and
china
exceeding
20
percent
of
new
vehicle
sales
being
being
electric
we've.
G
We
increased
in
in
the
us
from
about
two
percent
to
four
percent,
so
we're
seeing
a
doubling
of
of
the
adoption
rate
still
still
a
lot
more
market
to
go
to
clean
energy
electric
vehicles,
but
just
a
rapid
growth
rate
right
now.
Next
slide.
G
So
this
is
the
evs
in
south
carolina.
I've
just
just
got
the
year
end
2021
data
we're
growing
in
about
a
52
annual
growth
rate.
Right
now,
we're
nearing
10
000
vehicles,
statewide
dominions
area.
We
have
about
35,
36
percent
of
that
so
we're
around
3
500
3
600
passenger
vehicles,
state
of
south
carolina.
G
So
I'm
starting
to
see
continuing
to
see
strong
growth.
We
were
about
44
at
the
middle
of
last
year
to
the
end
of
last
year.
We've
upped
it
to
52
and
I
think
that's
going
to
go
even
higher
next
slide,
please
katie!
G
So
this
is
a
pretty
cool
heat
map
south
carolina
a
year
in
2000,
so
about
18
months
ago.
If
it's,
if
it's
white,
zip
code,
that
means
there's
no
ev
registered
in
in
that
zip
code.
If
it's
colored,
that
means
that
it
is
has
ev
registered
and
the
darker
the
color
is
the
higher
the
density.
So
you
can
see.
G
So
this
is
a
really
really
interesting,
really
good
slide
to
see
what
what's
your,
what
your
energy
cost
benefit
is
as
a
on
a
passenger
vehicle.
You
know,
so
it
could
be.
Your
vehicle
could
be
a
passenger
vehicle
in
your
city
fleet.
G
But
if
you
look
at
like
the
vehicle,
I
drive
I
charge
at
home
at
about
12
cents,
a
kilowatt
hour.
I
get
about
four
miles
per
kilowatt
hour,
so
my
cost
is
around
three
cents:
a
mile
charging
charging
at
home.
That's
my
fuel
cost.
If
my
previous
car
was
about
30
miles
a
gallon,
if
I
was
paying
350,
which
is
probably
kind
of
probably
actually
low
at
this
point,
I
would
be
paying
14
cents
a
mile
just
for
the
fuel
cost.
G
The
the
we've
looked
at
a
lot
of
transit
buses
cap
bus
in
clemson
was
one
of
the
forerunners
carter's
doing
a
lot
of
transit
electric
bus.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we're
out
there
now
putting
in
a
large
backbone
infrastructure
for
the
33
buses.
They
have
on
site
13
that
are
in
operations
now
and
general
rule
of
thumb.
G
Katie-
and
I
talked
about
this-
a
lot
in
our
resiliency
committee-
is
zero
tailpipe
emissions.
So
you
know
when
you're
idling
as
a
as,
but
you
have
to
and
in
some
situations
then
you're
not
emitting
there.
So
you
have
a
really
higher
air
quality
situation.
When
you
have
an
electric
vehicle,
carbon
carbon
reduction
is
significantly
lower
through
the
life
cycle
of
the
of
the
vehicle,
and
one
thing
from
a
cost
standpoint
is
the
generation
mix
on
electric.
Is
you?
G
G
So
this
is
kind
of
getting
into
the
crux
of
what
katie
wanted
me
to
go
over
just
kind
of
a
basis
of
what
the
charging
options
are.
So
there's
essentially
three
levels
of
charging,
one
two
and
three
level.
Three
is
also
known
as
direct
current
fast
charging
or
dc
fast
charge
so
level
one
would
be
your
standard
plug
120,
volt
plug.
You
can
charge
your
vehicle
with
that.
So
you
always
have
that
option.
Your.
G
Speed
is,
is
very
low,
so
it's
not
used
in
most
applications
these
days,
because
you've
only
get
about
5
miles
of
range
per
charge.
So
most
most
people
at
home
use
a
240
volt
plug
a
dryer
type
plug
same
one.
That
would
run
your
your
your
cooking
unit
as
well,
so
you
can
plug
your
charger
that
comes
with
the
car
into
that
plug
or
you
can
put
in
a
home
charger
a
dedicated
circuit.
G
So
that's
a
240
volt
circuit,
I
put
in
a
charger
in
my
house
on
240
volt
circuit,
it's
about
60
amps.
It
operates
at
about
48
amps
and
I
get
around
45
miles
per
hour
of
charge
on
that
level
too.
So
you
know
I
typically
will
come
back
with
60
miles
of
range
depleted
and
so
within
a
couple
of
hours,
I'm
back
to
a
full
300
miles
of
range,
so
very
convenient
to
plug
in
at
night
charge
and
be
full
for
for
the
next
day.
So
just
to
recap,
difference
between
level
one.
G
Just
your
standard,
120
plug
level.
Two
is
either
a
240
volt
dryer
plug
or
a
240
volt
circuit.
It
could
be
a
208
circuit
as
well
for
in
an
application,
but
it
is
single
phase
ac
level.
G
Three
would
be
what
you
would
see
for
on
on
the
highways,
your
tesla
superchargers,
what
what
the
car
will
have
for
their
fleet
or
dc
fast
charging
they're
going
to
be
able
to
charge
that
card
at
up
to
125
kilowatts
per
per
bus
per
charger,
so
you're
able
to
to
get
a
lot
faster
charge
than
you
would
be
on
a
level
two
so
level
two's,
seven
to
ten
kw,
a
level
three
would
go
up
to
to
350
kw.
G
So
you
can
see
the
the
difference
in
the
speed
can
be
up
to
30
times
faster
charging
speed
with
a
it
does
require
three-phase
480,
volt
service
and
in
order
to
to
get
those
those
charging
speeds.
So
I
know
that
was
one
important
question
to
you.
Katie
does
anybody
have
any
questions
related
to
the
different
chargers
and
the
charging
option?
That
might
be
something
that
raises
some
questions.
G
Okay,
if
you
would
okay,
this
is
just
some
pictures
of
the
different
chargers.
The
one
on
the
left
is
a
level
two
workplace
charger
that
we
have
in
our
office.
You
can
see
there's
kind
of
two
handles
there,
two
ports,
so
you
can
charge
two
vehicles
simultaneously
with
that
charger
at
about
30
amps
each.
G
So
that
would
be
your
non-network
charger.
So
not
a
lot
of
circuitry
and
componentry,
like
the
one
we
had
our
office
and
most
chargers
in
the
public
space
are
going
to
be
networked.
The
reason
that
that
network
chargers
are
really
valuable
is
that
they
will
be
able
to
be
able
to
get
information
from
them.
They're
not
working
they'll
notify
you
but
they're,
not
working,
so
you
can
respond
and
and
repair
the
charger
you
can
set
pricing.
G
So
if
you
want
to
charge
20
cents
kilowatt
hour
or
30
cents
a
kilowatt
hour,
you
want
to
charge
by
the
hour
or
you
don't
want
to
charge
at
all.
You
can
program
that
and
you
can
change
that
as
needed.
You
can
also
charge
different
rates,
whether
it's
on
peak
off-peak,
incentivize,
customers
to
charge
off-peak,
but
with
a
lower
price
signal.
For
that.
G
So
really,
network
chargers
are
the
majority
of
what
we
work
with
and
what
we're
planning
to
work
with,
but
you
can
use
a
non-network
charger
mine.
My
house
is
a
non-network
charger
and
the
reason
it
works
fine
for
me
is
that
I
can
do
all
the
programming
in
the
car
I
can
set
charging
times
charging
speeds
all
that
with
the
vehicle.
I
don't
need
my
charger
at
the
home
to
necessarily
be
smart.
G
If
anybody
has
any
questions
on
that,
you
know
feel
free
to
kind
of
jump
in
if
you
do
on
the
network
versus
non-network.
This
is
this
is
a
slide
I
put
together
just
that.
Basically,
when
you
buy
the
car,
you
will
get
a
120
120
volt
plug
or
you'll
get
a
and
you'll
get
a
240
volt
plug.
G
So
you
can
you
don't
have
to
have
a
built-in
charger
at
your
house
or
business
you
can
charge
from
from
from
the
car
itself
or
if
you're
traveling,
you
got
an
airbnb
or
whatever
you
can.
If
you
have
access
to
a
240
volt
plug,
then
you
can
just
plug
right
in
or
even
a
120.,
so
that
that
top
piece
on
that
picture
on
the
bottom
left
is
removable,
so
you
can
plug
in
120
volt
plug
or
a
240
volt
plug
to
the
same
same
charger.
G
G
next
slide.
So
these
are
your
your
your
dc
charging
basics.
So
you
have
the
non-tesla
standard,
which
is
called
a
ccf
one.
This
would
be
many
chevy
bolts
or
any
cars
generally
that
are
not
teslas
would
be
the
ccs
plug
connection.
So
you
would
use
that
plug
when
you
would
dc
fast
charge
and
then,
if
you
have
a
tesla,
you
have
the
one
on
the
right,
which
is
does
the
same
thing:
it's
just
a
different
plug
configuration.
G
So
if
you
look
at
the
ccs
plug
it
kind
of
has
two
pieces,
you
see
the
round
piece
at
the
park
at
the
top
and
then
come
the
oval
at
the
bottom.
If
you're
only
using
the
ac,
you
know
the
240
volt
single
phase,
like
that,
that's
your
house
or
your
workplace
you're
not
going
to
use
those
bottom
two
ports.
Those
are
only
for
fast
charging.
You
would
just
use
the
upper
part,
which
is
the
circular
piece,
a
couple
of
differences
between
them
ev
reading
affordances
the
one
another
thing
katie
wanted
to
mention.
G
A
number
of
cities
have
passed
ordinances
that
require
home
builders
or
commercial
businesses
to
be
ev
ready,
which
means
they
have
a
240
volt
circuit
in
the
garage,
because
most
houses
now
are
not
built
with
240
volt
plugs
in
the
garage
unless
you're
the
dryer
in
the
garage.
So
that
would
it's
a
minimal
cost.
G
When
you
build
a
house,
it's
five
times
more
expensive,
to
add
it
later
on
so
probably
200
to
300,
when
you
build
the
house
and
up
to
fifteen
hundred
dollars
to
add
that
circuit
later
on,
so
a
big
incentive
to
have
that
to
start
with
and
somewhat
dissimilar
with
a
multi-family
or
commercial
application
to
be
easy,
ready
is
to
have
that
separate
circuit
that
separate
240
or
208
circuit.
That
would
be
able
to
provide
for
an
ev
charger
during
construction
versus
having
to
have
to
add
it
later.
G
You
know
one
thing
that
we're
looking
at
providing
is
ev
charging
as
a
service.
So
we'd
be
able
to
come
off
of
our
system
separately
metered
and
provide
you
a
charging
station
like
is
in
these
pictures
now
at
a
city,
office
or
workplace
that
would
be
able
to
serve
that
need,
which
is
easier
than
which
could
be
easier
than
coming
out
of
your
house
panel.
G
G
The
we've
also
got
refuse
trucks.
New
york
city's
got
a
refuse
truck.
I
know
the
city
has
looked
at
some
potential
grants
for
electric
garbage
vehicles,
also,
the
first
electric
fire
truck
went
into
service
last
week
in
los
angeles,
fully
functional
electric
fire
truck
next
slide.
One
more
so
these
are
some
of
the
off-road
vehicles.
G
We're
working
on
we're
actually
going
to
be
doing
our
first
aviation
charger
in
charleston
airport,
we're
going
to
have
a
fully
electric
plane,
that's
going
to
travel,
they're,
doing
every
200
miles,
that's
gonna
travel
up
and
down
from
vermont
down
the
east
coast.
They've
got
contracts
with
ups
for
package
deliveries
and
so
they'll
be
able
to
fly
from
airport
to
airport,
fully
electric
battery
operated
and
charge
at
about
500
kb
500
kva,
three
phase
power
at
the
airport
at
the
private
terminal
to
in
order
to
charge
that
towards
that
plane.
C
Yes,
sir,
I
think
I'm
I'm
audible
now.
Can
we
get
a
copy
of
that
slide
deck?
That
was
the
most
informative
summary
of
evee
vehicles
that
I've
ever
seen
in
my
life
and
and
it
just
answered
so
many
of
my
questions.
Just
I
mean
it's
such
a
great,
simple
presentation
that
that
I
love
it.
So,
if
that,
if,
if
you
can
make
that
available
to
us
on
a
pdf
or
something
that
would
be
fantastic,.
A
B
Great
any
other
questions
or
comments,
so
I
guess
the
big
question
is:
how
do
we
get
from
where
we
are
now,
which
is
next
to
nothing
to
where
we
need
to
be
to
satisfy
a
demand?
That's
going
to
be
growing,
I
think
exponential
exponentially
over
the
next
10
years
and
I'm
still
curious
how
the
petroleum
distribution
business
is.
Gonna
play
a
part
in
this.
If
they
are
or
not,
you
know
because
folks
still
need
to
get
around
they're
still
gonna
want
to
buy.
B
You
know
soft
drinks
and
chicken,
and,
and
you
know
they
could
charge
up
at
commercial
stations
just
like
they
buy
gasoline
and
but
in
the
meantime,
the
biden
administration
has
a
lot
of
competitive
grants
that
that
we
can
apply
for
to
try
to
put
charging
stations
in
public
spaces
and
you
know
help
facilitate
this
transition.
B
I
know
katie's
been
looking
into
some
of
those
brand
opportunities
and
but
but
they're
out
there,
and
and
can
I
solicit
any
comments
or
suggestions
from
anyone
on
path
forward.
C
Yeah,
actually,
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
we've
been
kind
of
getting
involved
with
a
larger
group
of
a
lot
of
people
looking
at
vehicle
electrification,
one
on
the
economic
development
side,
but
also
just
on
what
it
will
take
in
terms
of
the
grid.
Support
of
that
and
looking
at
where
some
of
those
grants
can
be
applied.
So
katie
I'll
forward.
C
You
that,
if
you're
not
on
that
group,
I'm
going
to
forward
you
that
group,
because
you
could,
I
think,
they're
meeting
like
weekly
to
talk
about
the
different
grants
and
not
just
for
this.
But
this
is
one
of
the
main
ones
that
we're
looking
at.
So.
C
B
The
ev
readiness
ordinance
and
we
have
other
cities
katie
that
have
have
you
looked
into
whether
there's
some
model
ordinances
out
there
that
have
already
been
in
place.
A
There
are
a
bunch
and
a
bunch
in
the
southeast.
I
think
it
would
be
a
a
welcome
addition
to
our
zoning
code.
I
see
it,
it
could
just
be
part
of
as
we
you
know,
revisit
the
entire
zoning
code.
I
would
imagine
it
would
just
be
part
of
that
process
unless
we
wanted
to
speed
things
up
and
try
to
get
something
passed
sooner
right.
D
Well,
it
seems
to
me
mayor
the
the
path
that'll
get
us
there.
The
quickest
is
probably
visiting
this
as
we
rethink
the
downtown
plan,
which
I
think
will
be
the
first
thing
that
comes
up
with
zoning
on
a
large
scale
in
the
near
future.
So
that's
probably
a
good
place
to
start
all
right.
B
G
Yes,
sir,
we
sure
do,
but
we
would
really
really
love
for
y'all
to
use
it.
I'd
love
for
it
to
be
used
off-peak
to
start
with.
B
So
and
it's
amazing
to
me
how
many
I
mean
when
you
go
to
the
grocery
store,
I
do
not
have
an
electric
vehicle,
yet
my
next
one
will
be,
but
you
know
folks
can
go
to
the
grocery
store
at
whole
foods
and
just
sign
up.
That's
free,
isn't
it
they
charge
you
up
for
free
when
you're
shopping.
G
B
Yeah,
so
I
mean
I
can't
imagine
that
that's
going
to
last
forever
once
the
market,
you
know,
really
takes
off
on
this.
So
that's
that's!
That's
something
to
consider
and,
like
I
said,
I
I'm
really
curious
to
see
how
the
the
petroleum
distribution
business
takes
takes
up
takes
a
part
in
all
this,
but
we
got
some
real
need
for
electricians
and
installers
and
that's
a
whole
trade
I
think
from
workforce
development.
B
G
Yes,
so
trident
tech
bosch
in
north
charleston
is
going
to
is
making
the
motors
for
all
the
rivian
electric
trucks.
G
Mercedes
is
going
to
make
the
first
all-electric
sprinter
van
starting
next
year,
so
they're
both
engaged
with
trident
tech
on
training
programs,
technical
training
programs
in
order
to
bring
qualified
folks
into
their
into
their
factories
to
make
these
vehicles.
So
then,
of
course,
volvo
as
well.
It's
going
to
be
all
electric
by
2025
as
far
as
every
vehicle
will
either
be
battery
electric
or
hybrid
within.
I
guess
three
years
so
also
some
tie-ins
there
as
well.
So
a
lot
of
local
benefit
to
the
entire
electric
electric
vehicle
market
in
charleston.
D
Yeah
and
there,
if
I
might
just
jump
in
really
quickly
and
westie
and
danny
as
you
all
well
aware,
I
mean
one
of
the
indicators
that
we're
well
familiar
with
on
how
quickly
this
market
is
going.
Is
carter
by
the
end
of
this
year
will
have
40
battery
electric
buses,
which
is
a
third
of
our
fleet,
and
two
years
ago
we
had
zero.
So
one
of
the
challenges
by
the
way
has
been
not
the
buses
themselves,
but
the
charging
equipment
has
been
hard
to
get
through
the
supply
chain.
D
We
actually
can't
put
the
buses
out
for
as
many
hours
as
we'd
like
right
now,
because
we're
a
little
behind
on
that
charging
equipment,
but
we'll
catch
back
up
with
that
and
it's
a
huge
investment.
I
just
think
it's
a
good
indication
that
this
community,
at
every
level
of
mobility
and
transit,
is
looking
at
different
ways
to
fuel
it
other
than
to
go
to
the
pump
and
stick
a
bunch
of
gas
in
it.
So
it's
been
very
successful
for
us
and
I
think,
we'll
really
see
a
lot
more
of
it
in
the
future.
C
D
So
that's
a
very
that's,
a
very
good
question
and
we're
looking
at
that.
We've
been
working
with
dominion
on
that.
It's
it's
more
expensive
to
mobile
charging
than
it
is
to
have
stationary
charging.
So
currently
we
charge
at
our
at
our
station.
But
we
are
going
to
try
to
put
some
mobile
charging
for
our
buses
anyway
out
on
the
street,
so
they
can
continuously
operate
without
having
to
come
back
to
home
base
and.
D
C
B
D
C
G
So
the
the
unit
themselves
is
for
a
dual
port,
so
I'd
serve
two
vehicles,
probably
in
the
just
in
the
box,
cost
seven
eight
thousand
dollars,
and
then
you
have
infrastructure
so
just
depends
on
the
cost
to
get
the
infrastructure
to
the
location
that
you
would
want.
But
you
know
I
would
say,
dual
port.
You
know
twelve
thousand
dollars
something
like
that
is
probably
a
good
good
price.
You
make
you
do
it
plus
or
minus
from
there.
B
I'm
just
curious,
danny
and
westy:
do
you
all
envision
dominion
having
retail
sales
with
chargers
at
various
locations
where
you
would
sell
energy
kind
of
on
a
retail
basis
like
that.
G
Yes,
one
thing
we're
seeing
from
our
customers
is:
there's
a
lot
of
interest
for
us
to
provide
charging
for
them
at
the
retail
level.
G
So,
instead
of
having
to
do
all
that
support
yourself
and
having
to
create
a
no
new
thing
in
your
business
of
owning
and
operating
and
maintaining
a
charger
they're
looking
to
us
to
provide
that
service
for
them
to
make
sure
those
chargers
are
fully
operational.
Just
like
very
similar,
we
provide
the
lighting
system
or
the
electric
system,
the
people
that
have
chargers
they
want
to
make
sure
that
they
work
and
that
they
provide
that
service
to
the
customers.
So
it
could
be
at
the
retail
level.
G
G
That
they
can
gain
from
the
charger
from
the
driver,
then
that
would
be
credited
back
to
them
to
offset
their
offset
their
cost.
So
you
know
we're
looking
at
just
providing
selling
the
energy
to
them
and
providing
the
equipment
and
the
service
to
them
to
meet
their
needs,
just
because
there
is
a
significant
need
for
our
customers,
especially
multi-family
dwellings
and
workplace
multi-families.
G
B
Well,
the
time
has
run
past
noon
already.
This
was
a
fascinating
topic
and
so
timely
and
it's
going
to
evolve
over
the
next
year
or
two
like.
B
Maybe
we
don't
even
foresee
at
this
point,
could
I
ask
that
katie
and
at
least
one
person
from
dominion
and
then
whoever
else
feels
a
real
passion
about
this
to
let
us
form
a
little
subcommittee
and-
and
you
all
come
back
to
us
next
meeting
with
some
specific
recommendations
in
terms
of
our
ev
readiness
ordinance
for
the
city
and
just
really
thinking
about
some
solid
recommendations,
and
maybe
catherine,
if
you
don't
mind
volunteering,
to
serve
on
that
or
if
I
could
ask
you
to
do
that
since
chicago
is
researching.
B
Some
of
this
maybe
get
four
or
five
of
us
kind
of
working
on
this
independently,
because
there's
a
lot
coming
down
the
pike
on
this
isn't
there
is
that
is
that
appropriate
anybody
want
to
agree
to
volunteer.
Just,
let
me
or
katie
know-
and
I
know,
stewart's
always
ready,
but.
E
B
B
Oh
terrific
yeah,
if
you'd
help
us
or
danny,
wants
to
do
it
directly,
it's
fine,
but
if
one
of
y'all
would
be
on
on
that,
that
would
be
great.
So
we
can
really
get
some
solid
recommendations
and
some
action
steps
going
forward
in
the
near
future.
That'd
be
great.
A
A
A
Up
and
also
write
notes
in
the
chat
betsy
go
ahead.
F
Hi
everyone
thanks.
I
know
we're
running
past
time,
I'll
keep
it
brief.
I
just
wanted
to
chime
in
and
express
our
enthusiasm
and
gratitude
for
everybody's
receptivity
and
support
of
this
composting
program.
This
is
such
a
joy
to
work
on
and
has
been
a
long
time
coming
for
us
in
charleston
and,
as
katie
mentioned
and
stuart
can
testify
hearing
people's
testimonials
at
the
farmers
market.
F
F
So
super
excited
to
hear
your
support
about
requesting
the
funding
from
city
council
to
make
this
a
permanent
program
and
expand
access
for
the
community,
as
we
continue
to
think
of
ideas
to
enhance
the
program
moving
forward.
So
thank
you
all
so
much
and
looking
forward
to
continuing
to
work
on
this.
B
F
F
This
is
something
I
had
the
pleasure
working
on
with
katie
and
many
of
you
on
this
ferry
committee
years
ago,
and
you
know
there
was
a
lot
of
support
from
local
businesses
and
citizens,
and
I
think,
once
things
were
passed
and
implemented,
seeing
those
larger
box
stores
switched
to
the
thicker
plastic
bags
was
really
discouraging
for
our
local
businesses,
who
took
it
upon
themselves
to
keep
within
the
integrity
of
the
ordinance
and
pursue
those
alternative
products
and
provide
reusable
bags
for
folks.
F
So
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
we
are
here
still
years
later,
happy
to
support
you
all
we'll
also
be
communicating
about
these
changes
and
working
with
citizens
and
businesses
to
make
sure
folks
are
well
aware
of
of
the
change.
Should
it
be
passed
by
council,
and
I
just
also
want
to
say
you
know
regarding
christine's
comments
on
the
the
ideal
to
switch
to
compostable
materials.
F
F
I
think
that
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
work
with
you
all
in
pursuing
and
then
finally,
I
just
want
to
say
such
a
kudos
to
katie
and
the
rest
of
the
folks
at
the
city
who
have
made
it
really
easy
to
work
with
local
businesses
and
educating
them
on
these
changes
and
on
the
ordinance
and
even
during
covid,
with
enforcement
questions
and
challenges.
F
They
have
been
really
really
good
to
businesses
and
good
to
the
public.
So
just
a
huge
shout
out
to
the
city
for
for
handling
this
so
well
and
really
being
a
leader
on
this
in
the
local
community.
So
thank
you
all
very
much.
C
B
C
Hey
the
charleston
climate
coalition
here
I
just
want
to
briefly
say
how.
C
G
That
comes
from
food
waste
being
put
in
the
landfill
and
methane
is
an
extremely
potent
greenhouse
gas.
So
this
is
something
that
I
love
seeing
the
city
move
forward
on.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
it
progress,
so
thank
you.
A
B
Dale
anything
hot
hot.
Do
you
want
to
share.
C
No
matter
just
a
number
of
things
we
have
underway
what
I
I
guess,
the
two
most
important
things
and
I
can
update
everyone
at
the
next
meeting.
It's
fine!
I'm
now
going
to
post
a
link
in
the
chat
for
an
executive
order
that
president
biden
issued
a
few
weeks
ago.
It's
very
encouraging.
It's
writing.
Nature-Based
features
in
the
federal
initiatives
and
science
and
and
improvements
to
the
economics
of
that.
That's
there.
So
it's
in
the
link.
C
I
encourage
everyone
to
look
at
it
made
me
excited,
and
just
you
all
may
know
that
the
state
office
of
resilience
is
developing
a
state
resilience
plan
that
should
be
out
it's
likely
to
be
postponed
until
next
july,
because
they
want
to
do
some
better,
deep,
more
detailed
work.
So
that
is
good,
but
you
can
go
to
their
website
and
see
what
they're
doing
I
encourage
you
to
do
that.
C
It
is
a
it's
an
awesome
plan
under
development
and
just
a
shout
out,
the
historic
charleston
foundation
will
host
ben
duncan
the
state
cro
to
present
a
little
meeting
on
this
or
overview
of
the
state
resilience
plan
sometime
in
late
june.
That'll,
be
a
webinar
open
to
the
public,
just
have
to
register,
for
it.
So
have
a
look
at
that
and
that's
what
I
have
for
now
and
I'll
postpone
the
rest
all
next
time.
Thank
you.
B
Great,
thank
you
dale.
Thank
you
all
again
for
being
with
us
sorry,
we
ran
a
little
over,
but
all
good
stuff
and
look
forward
to
some
specific
recommendations
on
the
ev
stuff
next
time
and
we'll
go
back
and
on
the
plastic
and
the
plastic
bag
ordinance
next
time
after
we
see
if
we
can
get
a
couple
other
jurisdictions
in
with
us.