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City of Charleston Resilience and Sustainability Advisory Committee 6/11/2020
A
B
Good,
so
I'm
here
with
danny
we're
in
the
meock
using
our
new
system
set
up
here.
C
A
G
D
We've
got
christine
that
doesn't
look
like
jeff
there
hey.
What
are
you
doing?
You
must
be
on
somebody
else's
phone
you're.
D
I
D
D
Okay-
and
let's
see
I
I
see-
jeremy
collins
are
you
there-
I
see
a
name
for
jesus.
A
Jeremy's
helping
us
with
the
youtube
stream
from
the
I.t
department.
G
Hey
that's
sharon
richardson,
I'm
just
listening
in
as
a
public
meeting.
D
Yeah,
I
I
couldn't
see
your
video
and
stuart
weinberg
he's
ready
to
get
that
windmill
going
behind
you.
I
see
yeah.
D
Tracy,
so
thank
you
all
for
all
coming
together
and
katie.
Are
we
good
to
go
ready
to
get
started?
I
think.
A
So
we're
I,
I
thought
a
few
more
people
would
join.
I
did
get
a
message:
council,
member
gregory
wouldn't
be
able
to
make
it
okay,
but
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
started.
D
Doug
james
just
joined
us
and
it's
scott
bar
height
yeah.
How.
D
So
katie
is
going
to
show
us
an
agenda.
It
looks
like
so
I'd
like
to
open
the
meeting
officially
welcome,
y'all
and
ask
you
to
join,
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence
a
moment
or
two.
It's
been
a
unprecedented
time
in
our
country
in
our
world,
with
the
loss
of
george
floyd
two
weeks
ago,
so
we
we
remember
him
and
his
family,
but
lest
we
forget
we're
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic
and
over
a
hundred
thousand
united
states,
citizens
have
now
died
because
of
the
pandemic,
including
well
over
500.
D
D
Amen,
thank
you
so
much
so
boy.
We
got
a
big
agenda
here.
It's
going
to
mostly
be
presentation
by
others.
Katie's
got
a
lot
of
it.
Mark's
got
some
of
it
and
then
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
danny
casas
on
some
things.
We've
been
talking
about
and
ideas
for
going
forward.
So
I
did
want
to
welcome
our
new
committee
members.
Doug
james
will
be
representing
the
home
builders
association.
D
Andy
barber
had
been
with
us
for
a
while
doug
I've
known
for
a
many
years.
His
mom
used
to
linda
used
to
work
at
the
city
of
charleston
in
our
department
of
economic
development
back
in
the
90s.
When
I
was
a
department
head
then
and
doug's
got
the
sweetest
sweetest
mom
around
linda's
terrific.
Please
tell
her
hi
for
me
and
scott
we're
glad
to
have
you
joining
us
from
the
metro
chamber
of
commerce
as
well.
Welcome
welcome
to
our
sustainability
and
resiliency
committee.
So
thank
you.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Yes,
scott
and
doug
you
out
there
and-
and
I
don't
know
if
y'all
know
but
doug's
wife
is
carol.
Lee
williams,
who,
if,
if
doug,
is
not
totally
up
on
these
issues
of
resiliency,
already
I'd,
be
shocked,
but
if
not
he
can
he
can.
He
can
be
up
to
date,
just
by
going
home.
K
D
Okay,
thank
you
for
being
with
us
all
right,
so
take
it
away!
Katie.
A
So,
at
our
last
meeting
we
talked
about
our
sustainability
next
steps.
What's
next
for
the
division,
and
we
talked
about
how
we
started
our
greenhouse
gas
inventory
for
2018
this
january
and
despite
a
rough
spring
with
covid,
we
are
nearing
the
completion
of
that.
So
that's
really
exciting.
Stuart
weinberg's
been
really
helpful
in
participating
in
that
project
and,
basically,
why
are
we
performing
this
we're
trying
to
identify
what
our
greatest
sources
of
emissions
are?
A
A
And
that
way
we
can
compare
everything
in
the
same
unit.
So
we're
doing
that
for
for
all
the
sectors
of
the
inventory-
and
I
do
want
to
just
take
a
moment
to
say
that
in
what
back
when
we
did,
you
know
the
2002
inventory
2006.
A
There
was
a
different
assessment
and
a
bit
of
a
sort
of
standard
used
at
that
time.
So
when,
when
the
when
we
finished
when
we
finalized
the
2018
report,
the
numbers
from
the
original
green
plan
will
be
slightly
different
from
the
2018
report,
because
we'll
actually
need
to
transfer
those
and
convert
them
to
a
newer
assessment
called
the
fifth
assessment.
So
that's
how
we'll
compare
most
accurate
accurately.
A
So
I'm
really
excited
to
get
this
final
report
published
and
out
to
you
hopefully
near
the
end
of
the
month,
and
I
wanted
to
show
you
some
preliminary
data
in
the
meantime.
So
remember
we
are
performing
two
separate
inventories,
so
a
community
inventory.
This
includes
all
emissions
within
city
limits,
so
this
includes
government
operations
and
then
we
have
a
whole
separate
inventory.
That's
just
government
operation
emissions
alone.
A
So
in
the
community
inventory
we
are
seeing
an
overall
decrease
which
is
great
we're
seeing
a
decrease
in
our
building
energy
use
and
a
decrease
in
transportation
which,
which
is
interesting,
some
factors
to
consider.
So
we
look
at
why
this
data,
why
the
data
is
happening
this
way
and
I'm
really
interested
in
hearing
from
the
committee
and
the
other
strong
viewpoints
you
have
about
why
the
data
is
what
it
is,
but
obviously
we've
experiencing
a
lot
of
population
increases
development
increases.
A
You
know
every
every
season.
Do
we
have
a
cold
winter?
Do
we
have
a
really
hot
summer
our
heating
and
cooling
on
weather?
When
we
look
at,
of
course,
our
vehicle
miles
traveled
has
increased,
but
our
vehicle
efficiency
is
also
also
increased,
so
the
fuel
efficiency
of
the
vehicle
has
changed
dramatically
since
2006
and
2010
our
energy
codes
have
changed.
A
I
wrote
the
dates
down
here
just
for
interest,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
folks
wondering
about
energy
codes,
but
it,
but
basically
the
code
we
are
using
to
this
day
is
the
2009
international
energy
conservation
code
and
these
codes
are
published
by
the
state
and
there's
there's
a
special
piece
to
energy
codes
where
they
actually
require
a
certain
statutory
amendment,
separate
from
how
the
other
building
codes
are
adopted.
So
most
of
the
other
building
codes
are
on
a
2018
building
code.
A
Now
that
went
into
effect
on
january
1st
2020,
except
this
energy
code.
So
I
just
wanted
to
note
that,
and
that
is
the
change
that
needs
to
happen
at
the
state
level,
from
my
understanding,
so
I'll
move
on
to
the
city
inventory,
but
I'd
like
to
think
about
it.
Are
there
any
other
things
that
any
other
major
things
that
have
happened?
You
know
over
the
last
decade
that
are
really
important
in
this
data
and
if,
if
your
mic
isn't
muted,
you
might
want
to
try
muting
it.
That
would
be
great.
A
So
then
the
government
inventory
so
like
I
said
this
is
everything
from
city
operations
and
facilities.
So
this
is,
you
know
things
like
our
street
lights,
our
employee
commute
our
vehicle
fleet
and,
of
course,
every
city
building
and
facility.
Also
good
news
here:
we're
seeing
an
overall
decrease
in
emissions,
particularly
in
our
city,
buildings
and
facilities.
A
So
that's
great
news,
so
we
know
we've
done
a
ton
of
work
on
our
energy
performance
contract
with
johnson
controls,
and
we
have
done
all
kinds
of
other
energy
efficiency
improvements
that
our
parks
department,
the
facilities
division
has
has
led.
So
it's
really
exciting
to
see
all
that
hard
work
pay
off
in
lower
emissions
in
our
city,
buildings
and
facilities
we've
also.
Just
despite
that,
we've
seen
you
know
an
increase
in
city
staff
from
2010,
which
was
right
out
of
the
recession,
an
increase
in
vehicles
and
increase
in
our
facilities.
A
So
I'd
like
to
kind
of
put
it
back
to
the
committee.
If
you
have
any
other
kind
of
major
milestones
that
you
see
as
being
really
important
as
we
review
this
data.
D
Anybody
out
there
and
katie
this
is
for
2018,
so
the
coven
19
reductions
are
are
not
taken
into
account
or
do
not
factor
in
this
correct,
correct.
J
J
Yeah
so
katie
and
I
didn't
coordinate
at
all
on
our
we
traded
data,
a
lot
of
it,
but
we
didn't
coordinate
on
our
presentations,
but
my
court.
My
presentation
will
correlate
nicely
with
what
you
identified
as
the
trends
they're
going
to
be
some
clear
things
that
that
you've
already
mentioned
that
are
perfectly
going
to
integrate
so
I'll
I'll
save
my
stuff
but
you're
you're
exactly
right.
A
Great
thank
you
again.
So,
while
we're
still
finalizing
the
numbers,
I
did
want
to
share
the
preliminary
findings.
So
so,
basically,
everything
is
down
and
also
our
per
capita
emissions
are
down
since
our
population's
been
increasing,
and
this
is
an
image
straight
out
of
the
green
plan
that
showed
you
know
if
we
did
nothing.
What's
that
business
as
usual
projection
and
the
really
good
news
is,
we've
done
a
lot
of
things
and
we're
not
on
that
business
as
usual
projection.
A
Now,
it's
really
important
to
note
that,
while
this
is
good
news,
there
is
still
a
lot
more
work
to
do.
The
science
is
showing
that
we
really
need
to
reduce
emissions
to
net
zero
as
fast
as
possible
and
definitely
within
by
2050.
So
that
will
be
something
we
consider
as
a
new
target.
When
we
look
at
our
climate
action
process,
does
anyone
have
any
other
questions
or
comments
on
the
inventory
before
I
jump
into
the
climate
action
planning.
K
Katie,
this
is
scott.
Is
this
data
able
to
be
broken
down
in
any
way?
I
see
that
you've
separated
government
from
everything
else
are
there
any
other
batches
of
data
and
the
reason
I'm
asking
that
is
that
are
there
any
areas
that
are
not
decreasing
some
areas
that
are
not
decreasing,
that
could
call
our
attention
to
further
work
or
are
there
areas
where
we're
doing
it,
particularly
well
that
might
inform
us
on
how
we
got
there.
A
Yes,
great
question
scott,
so
so
we
have
the
two
separate
inventories
and
then
within
the
inventories,
the
data
is
broken
down
into
sector
and
that's
that's
about
as
far
as
it
gets,
but
you
when
we
have
the
when
we
publish
the
detailed
report
we'll
be
able
to
actually
see
because,
for
example
like
it
looks
like
they're
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
the
street
lights,
but
it
looks
like
the
street
light
may
be
increasing
with
development.
So
little
things
like
that.
So
that's
a
really
good
point
that
well
overall
they're
going
down.
A
A
So
the
chat
I
mean
I
can
answer
this
but
chat
from
the
public.
We
do
have
a
public
comment
period
at
the
end
of
the
session,
where
you're
more
than
welcome
to
comment,
but
carbon
sequestration
will
be
part
of
the
climate
action
planning
process.
To
answer
the
question.
A
All
right:
well,
I
will
move
on
to
oops
yep
climate
action
planning,
so
so,
as
the
inventory
is
that
first
step
for
climate
action
planning
so
like
I
said
we're
coming
to
an
completion
of
that
the
end
of
this
month
and
we're
jumping
right
into
our
climate
action
planning
process.
So
as
we
do
this,
we
will
look
to
develop
a
climate
action
planning
task
force
and
that
task
force
will
then
look
at
you
know
what
should
our
new
goal
be?
Do
we
want
to
do?
A
So
my
call
to
action
for
everyone
is:
we
need
to
develop
this
task
force
and,
while
this
whole
climate
action
planning
process
will
be
going
through
everyone
on
this
committee,
I'd
love
it.
If
there
were
a
few
members
on
the
committee
who
could
actually
dig
deeper
in
and
be
part
of
the
task
force,
I'd
love
would
be
great
to
have
some
members
very
important
to
have
some
members
from
city
council
on
the
committee.
A
So
if
you're
one
of
those
members
that
you
know
steps
in
both
buckets,
that
would
be
great
and
of
course
we
want
residents,
businesses,
organizations
anyone
from
the
community
that
would
like
to
be
part
of
the
process.
So
this
this
climate
action
plan
will
really
set
our
stage
moving
forward.
So
if
anyone
would
like
to
volunteer
either
on
the
committee-
or
you
know,
that's
in
the
public,
you
can.
Let
me
know
at
any
time
just
send
me
a
message
or
mention
it
right
now.
That
would
be
wonderful.
I
This
is
christine
from
musc
and
I
would
like
to
help.
We
are
sort
of
in
the
same
process
we'd
like
to
get
our
own
climate
action
plan
going,
and
I
have
started
working
on
our
greenhouse
gas
analysis
also,
and
I
think
that
you
know
maybe
we
could
align
our
plans
as
well,
because
you
know
we
probably
are
a
big
part
of
your
plan.
A
I
As
energy
use
in
the
city
of
charleston,
so
I'd
be
happy
to
help.
A
That
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
I
know
the
the
college
of
charleston
is
actually
just
starting
theirs
too,
so
hopefully
they
can
participate
too.
L
D
Katie,
let's
plan
on
giving
a
report
at
the
next
city
council
meeting
about
this
meeting,
but
we
can
solicit
other
council
members
who
are
not
on
this
committee
if
they
just
want
to
participate
in
this
particular
area.
I
did
have
one
other
question.
So
are
you
at
the
point
already
or
you'll,
be
there
at
some
point
soon,
where
we
you,
you
say
the
numbers
are
coming
down
where
we
have
a
specific
report
on
2018
versus
the
last
report
that
it's
down
x
percent.
A
So
then
our
next
topic
is.
We
had
talked
for
the
50th
anniversary
of
birthday
back
on
april
22nd,
which
you
know
all
of
our
earth
day.
Event
plans,
unfortunately
got
derailed
with
covid,
and
the
events
won't
be
happening
at
the
farmers
markets
this
year.
Unfortunately,
but
we
do
still
have
the
resolutions
that
the
whole
committee
actually
really
helped
to
draft.
So
I
wanted
to
show
you,
I
know
you've
seen
the
latest
version
of
this,
and
this
is
sort
of
these
are
the
detail
resolutions.
A
So
we
talked
about
numbers
1
through
18
are
actually
resolutions
and
a
commitment
from
government.
So
what
it?
What
is
the
city
of
charleston
committing
to
do
to
to
help
reduce
our
environmental
footprint
and
increase
sustainability
in
our
government
operations?
And
then
there
was
a
great
suggestion.
I
believe
mayor
checkenberg
had
it
to
include
a
community
action
point,
so
we
added
number
19
and
we
created
a
climate
action
pledge
and
you
all
receive
that
on
earth
day
and
many
of
you
signed
it.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
and
so
this
was
a
way
for
the
city
to
sort
of
reaffirm
our
commitment
to
environmental
stewardship
and
also
start
to
involve
the
community
and
say
hey.
We
can't
do
this
alone.
We
need
everyone's
help
because
everyone
needs
to
be
part
of
this
solution,
so
I
I
hope
you
all
had
a
chance
to
review
it.
A
I
know
I
thank
you
all
for
participating
in
writing
and
I
think
it
was
really
helpful
having
everyone's
kind
of
foot
in
the
door
here,
but
I
was
hoping
so
this
so
this
resolution
is
before
you
today
for
your
consideration
and
I
think
it
would
be
great
if,
unless
anyone
has
any
questions
or
comments
or
suggestions
to
change
it
to
vote
on
this
today
and
basically,
what
you
would
be
voting
on
is
not
making
it
official
but
voting
to
recommend
it
to
city
council
to
then
consider
it
and
city
council
could
consider
whether
making
it
an
official
resolution
and
just
a
resolution
is
a
commitment.
D
All
right,
any
any
discussion
or
comments,
corrections.
D
Could
I
entertain
a
motion
that
we
recommend
this
resolution
to
city.
E
D
Any
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
aye,
aye,
aye,
all
right
any
oppose
the
eyes.
Have
it
we'll
take
this
to
council
at
our
next
meeting
on
june,
the
23rd
a
week
from
tuesday
and
I
see,
councilmember
sheila
has
just
joined
us
or
maybe
he's
been
on
a
while,
but
I
saw
him
for
the
first
time.
Welcome.
M
A
No
problem,
okay,
so
here's
just
the
data
from
our
our
climate
action
pledge
we
published
so
we
had
about
just
over
100
people,
sign
it
so
far,
and
here's
just
a
little
snapshot
of
the
pledge.
If
you
haven't
seen
it
love
it,
if
you
could
get
in
there,
take
the
pledge
and
share
it
with
folks
and
help
get
the
word
out
really
simple:
straightforward.
You
know
energy
waste,
air
water
action
items
in
here.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
part
in
helping
share
this.
A
And
then
I
wanted
to,
since
our
single-use
plastic
regulations
went
into
effect
in
on
january,
1st
2020..
I
wanted
to
give
sort
of
a
six-month
review
of
where
we
were
at
with
that.
So
in
the
past
we've
talked
a
lot
about
the
our
business
transition
programs
and
how
we
did
residence
workshops
for
businesses
and
residents
in
the
fall,
so
I'll
shift
to
just
kind
of
some
final
numbers
for
our
giveaways.
A
We
are
we're
nearly
complete
with
this
35
000
grant
project
and
I'm
really
proud
to
say
that
we
were
actually
able
to
source
nearly
all
of
those
funds
locally
and
they
were
all
reinvested
in
our
local
economy.
So
that's
really
exciting
to
be
able
to
partner
with
local
businesses,
but
here's
some
numbers
that
I
thought
were
some
interesting.
So
in
total
we
have
had
6
500,
reusable
bags,
a
thousand
reusable
straws.
A
Some
of
these
are
still
being
given
away,
but
but
most
of
them
have
been
given
away
already
we
produced
a
thousand
signs
for
cashier
areas
that
sign
on
the
far
right
and
purple.
That's
a
little
table
top
sign
you
can
put
at
the
register.
These
have
been
available
in
our
permit
center,
so
when
people
renew
their
business
license
in
january,
they
could
pick
these
up
for
free.
We
also
had
large
poster
signs
smaller
poster
signs,
the
stand-up
sign.
A
There
is
an
example
of
a
sign
we'll
put
at
a
farmer's
market
when
we,
when
we
eventually
reopen-
and
this
is
the
part
of
the
grant-
we're
still
finalizing-
is
the
starter
inventory
for
non-profits
and
soup
kitchens,
so
any
soup
kitchens,
even
though
they're
exempt
from
the
ordinance
the
grant
actually
provides
funding
to
give
them
some
inventory
because
just
to
help
them
get
started
with
different
products
than
say
styrofoam
and
plastic.
A
So
we
were
able
to
procure
all
fiber
products
and
and
get
folks
some
some
additional
help
for
giving
these
away,
and
we
actually
had
a
group
who
was
able
to
procure
a
dishwasher
from
from
a
source
and
then
the
grant
actually
provided
them
with
some
reusable
cups,
bowls
and
trays.
So
that's
really
exciting
to
see
them
shift
away
from
from
disposable
to
reusable.
A
So
I
thought
I
would
share
that
with
you
now.
Looking
at
the
effects
of
the
ordinance,
we
have
seen
lots
of
behavioral
change,
I'm
sure
everyone
has
seen
it.
I've
seen
it
in
residence,
I've
seen
it
in
businesses
and
organizations.
It's
been
really
exciting,
actually
to
see
the
non-profit
organizations
particularly
be
really
excited
about
transitioning
away
from
plastic,
even
though
the
ordinance
doesn't
even
require
them.
So
that's
really
neat.
I
wanted
to
call
your
attention.
A
There
are
a
couple
amendments
that
this
committee
may
want
to
consider
and
you're
welcome
to
discuss
this
shortly.
There
there
has
been
a
problem
with
the
extra
thick
single-use
plastic
bags,
and
I
have
been
chatting
with
a
couple
other
municipalities
in
the
country
and
the
coaster
conservation
league's
been
really
helpful
with
this
too,
to
try
to
figure
out
a
way
that
we
could
rewrite
that
code
to
disallow
those
extra
thick
bags,
and
I
believe
we
have
a
solution.
A
If
the
committee
would
like
to
consider
that
and
then
also
allowing
paper
straws
without
a
requirement
to
compost.
Since
the
paper
is
so
much
more
ocean
friendly
than
the
pla
plastic
straws
that
are
compostable,
so
I
I
think
there
might,
there
might
be
a
couple
other
smaller
things
in
there,
but
those
are
sort
of
the
big
ones.
If
we
wanted
to
consider
it
through
this
committee
and
then
consider
taking
those
back
to
council,
and
then
I
wanted
to
share
that,
we
had
some
data
that
was
collected
the
end
of
january.
A
So
after
the
ban
and
that
data
did
show
a
decrease
in
plastic
bags.
Now
it
was
the
end
of
january.
So
it
wasn't
much
time
after
the
ordinance
went
into
place,
but
there
were
some
businesses
that
started
putting
the
the
band
in
practice
in
the
fall
to
get
ready
for
it,
so
that
may
have
helped.
A
Of
course,
kobit
19
quickly
slowed
down
efforts
to
track
data,
and
you
know
litter
suites
had
stopped
at
the
time,
but
these
will
pick
back
up.
Hopefully-
and
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
non-profit
partners
and
and
and
keep
jarson
beautiful,
who
will
continue
to
track
data,
as
the
sweeps
start
happening
also
an
another
sort
of
a
challenge
with
determining
how
effective
the
ordinance
has
been
is
that
we
have
enacted
an
emergency
ordinance
due
to
covet
19
to
actually
stop
enforcement
of
the
regulations,
and
this
was
largely
due
to
supply
chain
challenges.
A
This
is
changing
so,
as
china
has
kind
of
picked
up
a
little
more,
the
supply
chain
challenges
have
started
to
level
out,
so
I
wanted
to
bring
that
to
the
attention
of
the
committee
right
now.
The
emergency
ordinance
extends
till
june
30th.
So
I
don't
know
if
the
committee
wanted
to
consider
talking
about
you
know.
Should
this
continue
to
be
extended?
Should
you
know?
Is
it?
Is
it
time
to
let
it
go
and
then
remember?
A
We
always
have
that
business
exception
in
there
that
a
business
can
apply
for
an
exemption
if
they're
still
having
trouble
with
the
supply
challenges.
So
I
don't
know
if
anyone
wanted
to
discuss
that
or
or
the
potential
ordinance
changes.
This
would
be
a
good
time.
K
F
I
got
it.
Thank
you,
you
hear
me
now.
You
got
it
yes,
good,
okay,
sorry,
a
little
different
one.
I
was
privileged
to
join
katie
in
some
of
the
presentations
that
were
made
throughout
the
community,
as
this
was
going
into
effect,
and
it
was
you
just
watched
everyone
who
was
so
appreciative
that
we
were
that
katie
and
the
other
groups
that
were
with
her
were
providing
all
this
information
to
members
of
the
community
and
talking
to
people
elsewhere,
who
also
put
a
single-use
plastic
bag
ban
into
effect.
F
No
other
municipality
did
what
charleston
did
to
try
to
get
the
community
ready
for
that,
so
hats
off
to
katie
and
everybody
else.
There's
other
groups
that
joined
katie.
In
doing
that,
I
would
definitely
request
that
we
move
to
change
the
ordinance
to
have
the
heavy
use
single
use.
Plastic
bags
also
banned
for
the
future,
so,
whatever
procedure
we
need
to
do
that.
I
would
move
in
that
direction
or
make
a
motion.
D
So
so
do
they
have
like
some
millimeter
thickness
or
some
measurement
that
they
go
by.
A
So
one
of
the
reasons
we
started
with
the
four
mills,
because
typically
a
four
mil
plastic
bag
is
going
to
be
more
expensive
than
a
paper
bag.
So
we
thought
that
that
would
just
wash
out
easily
and
then
we
in
talking
to
folks,
we
found
that
some
states
have
figured
out
a
way
to
completely
eliminate
those.
So
when
you're
looking
at
some
of
those
larger
chains,
especially
where
they
have
to
deal
with
multiple
regulations
in
many
states,
they're
they're
needing
to
you
know,
diversify
their.
A
What
they're
procuring
so
they're,
sending
all
the
paper
to
the
states
that
have
complete
plastic
one.
One
thing
we
found
and,
like
I
said,
the
league
really
helped
us
with
this-
is
describing
the
handles
in
the
ordinance
and
basically
a
bag
with
handles
that
are
stitched
and
not
heat
fused,
that
that
could,
if
we
change
the
definition
of
reusable
bag,
we
were
confident
that
that
could
really
help
with
the
situation.
So.
A
H
H
I
I
would
like,
because
this
obviously
the
last
couple
minutes
of
conversation
put
out
there
a
few
ops
through
very
variations
on
the
the
concept
in
terms
of
the
you
know
the
thickness
of
the
bags,
whether
or
not
they
have
handles
or
not,
and
I
would
be
very
interested
as
a
member
of
this
committee
to
look
at
what
those
various
options
might
or
options
or
considerations
might
be
if
we
were
to
move
towards
the
elimination
of
a
single
of
a
heavy
duty
or
whatever
they're
called
bag
that
that
we
know
exactly
what
that
means,
so
that,
when
council
considers
that
that
gets
that
recommendation
from
this
committee
that
those
those
conversations
have
been
had
with
the
committee
here,
I
don't
know
if
that
makes
any
sense.
D
In
other
words,
you're
saying
we
should
we
should
drill
down
and
be
a
little
more
specific.
H
I
I
would
I
would
like
that
conversation
to
occur
here
so
that
doesn't
have
to
happen
to
happen
at
city
council
necessarily
now
it
still
may
happen
that
council,
but
right,
but
knowing
exactly
what
the
recommendation
might
be,
I
think,
would
be
helpful.
That's
my
opinion.
Only
mr
chairman.
E
How
about
if
we
ask
stuart
to
amend
his
motion
that
that
this
committee
will
recommend
whatever
detailed
changes
to
our
current
plastic
ban
ordinance
are
necessary
to
prevent
the
use
of
the
bags
that
we're
all
talking
about
and
then
authorize
katie
to
have
that
conversation
with
whoever
can
can
help
her
correct
the
motion
that
will
come
to
council
I'm
worried
about
the
timing.
E
First
of
all,
our
group
doesn't
meet
that
often,
and
I
know
that
there's
a
there's
still
a
very
strong
movement
to
to
do
the
pre-emptive
bill
at
the
state
level
that
could
potentially
endanger
our
ordinance.
You
know
regardless,
but
I
think
the
the
more
we
make
changes
to
it
right
ahead
of
any
any
next
session
of
the
legislature.
D
So
could
I
suggest
another
aspect
of
this:
is
that
I
I
think
what
we've
done
so
far.
D
Its
effectiveness
was
was
elevated
by
the
fact
that
we
were
basically
in
sync
with
mount
pleasant
and
a
couple
of
the
other
towns
as
well.
And
so
I
think
it
would
be
wise
to
to
come
up
with
that
specific
language
and
then
have
a
conversation
with
the
other
jurisdictions
that
are
in
sync
with
us
already
before.
We
take
the
next
step
and
see
if
we
can
kind
of
bring
everybody
along
at
the
same
time.
D
So
could
I
suggest
stuart
and
not
to
wait
for
this
committee
to
meet
again
two
or
three
months
from
now,
but
that
we
charge
katie
with
the
mission
of
coming
up
with
that
more
specific
language
and
then
send
it
out
to
this
committee
by
email
and
at
the
same
time,
have
those
conversations
with
the
other
jurisdictions
to
see
if
we
can
get
everybody
on
board
totally.
M
M
A
D
Yeah,
okay:
well,
let's
try
to
do
that
and
on
the
other
issue
I
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
when
this,
what
what
did
we
call
it
exemption
until
june
30th?
D
It's
it's
my
thought
that
city
council
will
not
extend
that
again
and
then
we
will,
with
the
existing
ordinance,
going
to
get
back
to
usual
on
july
1,
and
so
we
need
to
have
a
little
communication
about
that
as
well.
I
On
fast
again,
especially
going
towards
our
beaches,
there
was
more
trash.
So
my
observation
was
that
the
people
you're
not
trashing,
where
you
live,
you're,
you're
littering
you
know
and
and
other
people's
communities,
so
the
areas
along
the
coast
that
have
all
these
ordinances
that
are
banning
these
materials.
D
All
right,
we
will
do
that.
We
will
attempt
to
that's
for
sure.
Maybe
catherine,
do
you
think
the
the
has
the
cog,
the
regional
governments?
Have
they
taken
any
stance
on
this?
Could
could
we
maybe
get
some
regional
help.
G
I
I
I
can
you
hear
me
now.
Yes,
even
though
I
look
like
jeff,
I
I
don't
know
that
we've
talked
about
it
regionally.
I
actually
just
made
a
note
about.
Maybe
that's
something
for
our
board
meeting
at
the
end
of
the
of
the
month
in
terms
of
just
kind
of
giving
a
report
on
some
of
that
and
encouraging
all
the
jurisdictions
in
the
region
to
consider
it.
G
You
know
we
we've
obviously
left
it
up
to
each
jurisdiction
to
make
that
decision,
but,
for
instance,
I
don't
know
if
charleston
county
has
has
you
know,
you've
got
all
the
pockets
of
the
county
areas
around
there,
but
I
think
the
individual
beach
communities
have
like
christine
was
saying
it's
just
getting
some
of
these
inland
ones.
We
could.
I
can
see
about
getting
that
on
our
board
agenda.
D
B
Thank
you,
mayor
and
good
afternoon
or
good
morning.
Everyone
just
a
couple
of
quick
updates.
For
me.
It
won't
take
a
lot
of
time.
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know
that
our
vulnerability
assessment
is
now
done.
It's
finished
we're
currently
going
through
the
final
technical
details
about
how
we
post
it
online
and
probably
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
we'll
be
able
to
go
ahead
and
put
that
report
and
make
it
available
to
all
of
you
and
the
public
online.
B
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
as
our
vision
for
when
we
went
ahead
and
authorized
the
vulnerability
assessment,
it
has
and
continues
to
be
used
by
all
like
minded.
If
you
will
city
projects,
the
comprehensive
plan
is
informing
the
army
corps
of
engineers,
study
the
aecom
study
and
others.
So
it's
something
that
our
hope
was
that
it
would
be
able
to
bring
like
a
common
set
of
data
to
the
the
projects
in
the
city,
and
I
think
it's
going
to
go
ahead
and
be
able
to
do
that.
B
B
Okay,
you
can
leave
it
here.
This
is
fine,
so
the
the
next
thing
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
remind
everybody
that
the
19th
that's
next
friday
is
the
end
of
the
60-day
comment
period
for
the
army
corps
peninsula
flood
risk
management
study.
We
have
been
out
doing
a
lot
of
public
education
last
night.
We
did
a
webinar
and
we
supposedly
there
were
over
500
people
on
it.
There
were
over
500
people
signed
up,
and
I
believe
we
listening
this
morning
or
reading
some
emails.
B
They
they
think
they
had
over
500
on
it.
I
believe
we've
been
successful
in
reaching
over
a
thousand
people
to
date
by
a
rough
number
counting
and
we've
got
a
couple
of
sessions
next
week
as
well,
so
I
think
we'll
hopefully
close
in
on
maybe
1500
or
so.
But
it's
really
important
that,
if
you're
interested
in
comment,
you
take
the
time
to
comment.
B
I
would
offer
to
you
that,
to
the
extent
that
you
can
that
you
desire
to
go
to
the
army
corps
webpage
and
there's
everything
you
could
ask
for
about
that,
this
project
on
that
web
page
good
spot
to
provide
public
feedback
it.
You
can
do
a
interactive
overview.
B
B
Those
invites
have
been
sent
out
so
just
to
say
that
19th
cent-
I
know
I
think
kendra
stewart's,
now
been
on
four
of
my
webinars,
that
that
we've
done
she's,
probably
tired
of
hearing
me
and
so
anyway
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that
and
just
encourage
you
all
to
get
off.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
give
me
a
call.
J
J
Let
you
advance
it:
how
about.
J
J
Perfect,
okay,
yeah
and
I'll
roll
through
I'll
roll
through
this,
but
that's
a
actually
that
site
is
our
existing
campus
site.
C
J
Casey
south
carolina,
so
that's
a
two
megawatt
asset
that
we
installed
as
part
of
act
236
part
of
the
requirements
around
that
legislation,
so
I'll
roll
through
quick
and
then
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
be
glad
to
take
questions
in
the
end.
So
there's
the
disclosure
regarding
securities,
I'm
not
going
to
talk
a
whole
lot
about
deep
financial
issues,
so
probably
safe
next
slide:
yeah.
Okay,
so.
J
Mayor
you
are,
but
it's
it's
important
investment,
so
it's
critical
so
to
I
guess
to
to
just
set
the
conversation.
If
you
will,
I
I
wanted
to
to
use
this
slide
in
the
beginning,
so
kind
of
folks
could
could
organize
in
their
mind.
I
think
the
way
someone
who's
worked
in
the
industry
for
30
plus
years
thinks
about
the
energy
business
it's
hard
to
think
about
it
and
people
a
lot
of
times
because
of
their
expertise
or
because
what
they're
interested
in
they
think
about
one
piece
of
it.
J
But
it's
actually
it's
a
system
and
it
starts
that's
a
that's
a
continuum
if
you
will,
but
it
starts
from
supply
and
there's
distinct
things
about
supply
that
tie
back
to
what
katie
previously
spoke
about
with
respect
to
carbon
decarbonization
energy's
got
to
be
somehow
it's
got
to
be
delivered
to
consumers.
If
you're
steward
you,
you
self-generate
some
of
your
supply,
but
nobody
very
few
people
actually
generate
all
of
their
supplies.
J
So
there's
this
independence
that
happens
between
consumers
with
energy
delivery
system
in
the
middle
and
then
a
supply
system
on
the
other
end.
So
the
last
piece
of
it
and
the
mayor's
already
talked
about
it
a
little
bit,
but
it's
the
is
the
customer
side,
what
happens
on
the
loan
side,
which
then
is
driving
what
you
do
on
the
supply
and
the
energy
delivery.
J
So
I'll
put
those
pieces
together
for
you
just
to
and
I'll
I'll
talk
in
each
of
those
spaces
for
a
little
bit,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
you're
going
to
have
a
conversation
about
sustainability
and
you're,
also
going
to
have
a
conversation
about
resiliency,
you
have
to
talk
about
all
the
three
pieces
and
then
you
have
to
understand
how
they
connect
to
each
other
and
fit
together.
So
next
slide
katie
yeah.
So
you
know
the
maybe
the.
C
J
And
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
dominion
has
done
and.
C
J
Carolina,
electric
and
gas
has
done
a
a
pretty
good
job
of
decarbonizing
and
driving
the
supply
to
be
much
cleaner,
but
it's
certainly
not
where
we
need
to
be,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
recognize
that
there
is
a
goal.
There
is
a
date
and
the
company's
committed
to
net
zero
greenhouse
gas
emissions
across
our
entire
electric
and
natural
gas
operations.
J
But
that's
a
that's
that's
a
trend,
but
in
order
to
get
to
net
zero,
the
supply
has
got
to
get
a
lot
cleaner
and
there's
got
to
be
a
certain
number
of
steps
that
have
to
take
place.
And
today,
technologically,
you
can't
actually
create
100
green
supply.
You've
got
to
do
some
things
actually
with
either
technology
advancement.
You've
got
to
have
another
another
iteration
in
technology,
really
around
the
concept
of
storage
and
then
even
then,
you're
likely
to
have
to
create
other
things
to
offset
carbon.
J
You
might
do
reforestation
or
some
other
concept
to
in
totality
reach
the
net
zero
greenhouse
gas
goal.
So
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
some
conversation
about
that,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we
we
understood
kind
of
the
foundationally,
how
dominion
looks
at
how
I
look
at
the
goal
for
2050.,
so
next
slide
yeah.
So
this
is
the
2019
mix
and
I
think
that
again
it
speaks
to
to
what
katie
was
talking
about
before.
What's
happened,
what
happened
really
is,
or
has
happened
in
the
supplier?
J
Two
things
one
is
natural
gas
has
about
half
the
pound
mass
of
co2
per
megawatt
hour,
so,
as
gas
is
economically
dispatched,
it
replaces
coal
dispatch
and
that
cuts
automatically
those
megawatt
hours
in
half
in
terms
of
the
co2
in
terms
of
tons
of
co2
all
right,
so
then
you
throw
in
pretty
significant
solar
development
and,
although
from
a
capacity
perspective,
it's
not
as
it
doesn't
show
up
on
the
chart,
but
those
are
those
are
pretty
aggressive.
Moves
and
you'll
see
another
chart
where
you'll
start
to
see
many.
J
Many
more
megawatt
hours
are
coming
from
solar
and
then
the
other
thing
that's
really
important.
Is
you
have
to
have
the
hydro
and
the
reason
why
the
hydro
is
really
important
is
because,
as
solar
continues
to
become
it's,
it's
what
I
call
fuel
limited,
it's
driven
by
the
fact
that
if
the
sun
shines
it
produces,
so
if
you
over
produce
or
need
something
to
do
with
the
resource,
you
got
to
have
a
place
to
put
it
well,
if
you
have
pumped
hydro,
oversupply
can
be
accepted
to
some
degree.
J
It
allows
you
to
integrate
more
solar
onto
your
system
and
become
even
cleaner.
So
those
are
the
mixes
today,
but
what's
what's
kind
of
really
already
predetermined
in
terms
of
the
net
zero
goal,
you'll
see,
obviously
less
and
less
coal
nuclears
must
run
it
doesn't
zero
carbon
megawatt
hours
and
then
you
take
on
more
solar,
and
then
you
have
an
opportunity
then,
to
integrate
that
either
through
more
storage
or
through
different
contractual
obligations
on
the
solar
stuart.
I'm
sorry
that
I
don't
have
a
wind
slide.
J
J
On
a
one-to-one
fuel
basis,
so
the
parent
company
is
doing
a
huge
win
project
off
of
the
virginia
coast
where
the
resources
are
much
more
abundant
and
they
they've
got
what
I
would
call
really
favorable
legislation
that
helps
them.
So
I
wouldn't
say,
wins
out
of
the
question
forever
in
south
carolina.
It's
just
an
economic
equation
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So
next
slide.
J
Yeah,
so
this
is
our.
This
is
renewable
energy
development,
really
it's
almost
up
to
date,
but
those
you
look
at
the
utility
scale,
solar,
so
think
of
a
megawatt
as
to
give
you
some
some
idea
of
the
amount
of
infrastructure
that's
in
place,
so
there's
almost
800
megawatts
of
utility-scale
solar
just
in
our
service
territory,
so
on
a
ratio
of
load
or
balancing
area
to
intermittent
or
renewable.
J
It
you're
going
to
find
a
ratio
that,
quite
frankly,
doesn't
exist.
Maybe
in
a
couple
of
other
states,
california
would
be
one,
but
as
much
as
north
carolina
talks
about
all
their
solar
development,
they
balance
on
a
system
of
35
000
megawatts
they
have
less
than
10.
So
in
our
service
territory.
It's
a
pretty
significant
number
you're
talking
about
pressing
close
to
the
20
mark.
J
J
You
can
cohabitate
if
you
will,
with
with
wildlife
and
with
vegetation,
so
those
end
up
really
where
the
you
know
the
first
core
renewable
development's
taking
place,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note
again
the
hydro
part
of
that's
pump
storage,
which
allows
you
to
integrate
large
amounts
of
renewables,
but
you've
also
got
some
run-of-the-river
projects
too.
That
are
also
pretty
critical
to
the
way
the
system
operates.
J
Next
slide
yeah,
so
there's
two
pieces
of
really
important
legislation
that
have
taken
place
in
south
carolina
act,
236
allowed
for
what
I
would
call
the
first
iteration
of
renewables
south
we
met
all
the
statutory
requirements
that
were
in
act
236,
and
then
it
actually
did
what
it
was
supposed
to
do.
So
it's
always
good
when
you
take
when
you
have
legislation
to
to
go
back
and
say
what
were
your
goals
and
then
what?
What
did
you
actually
accomplish?
J
So
not
only
were
the
goals
that
were
just
codified
into
a
law
that
were
those
accomplished,
but
the
maybe
the
most
important
thing
that
happened.
Is
it
created
a
clean
energy
economy
or
was
the
catalyst
which
then
allowed
for
much
much
additional
development
so
notice?
There
was
only
a
requirement
for
well.
It
was
about.
It
was
one
percent
requirement
for
utility
scale
projects,
that's
42
megawatts
770
megawatts,
essentially
developed
without
the
need
for
legislation
that
was
a
function
of
the
success.
I
think
in
236.
J
act.
62
is
successor
legislation
it
is,
I
would
describe
it
as
being
a
lot
of
good
parts,
but
maybe
not
as
cohesive
and
integrated
as
it
could
be.
So
there's
an
opportunity,
I
think
in
south
carolina,
maybe
to
do
some
things
around
future
legislation
that
I
think
will
make
sense,
but
will
maybe
be
more
comprehensive
in
the
way
it
approaches,
renewables
and
I
think,
of
62
as
more
of
a
so
it's
almost
as
each
important
subject.
J
Matters
get
taken
up,
but
maybe
I
wouldn't
describe
it
in
isolation,
but
it's
just
not
as
integrated
as
the
way
we
thought
about
act.
236
next
slide
yeah.
So
I
I
want
to
speak
specifically
to
to
to
the
city
of
charleston
and
their
participation.
So
there
are.
There
are
a
thousand
rooftop
systems
in
the
city
of
charleston's,
just
in
the
city
and
there's
almost
a
megawatt
of
subscriptions
in
our
community
solar
projects
and
then.
L
J
Activity
too,
the
community
solar
ended
up
being.
Quite
frankly,
it
was
a
really
nice
model.
It
was
built
on
the
legislation
and
what
we
could
do
in
act
236,
but
I'll
give
you
an
example.
So
my
mom
owns
she
didn't
want
solar
panels
on
her
roof.
She
didn't
like
the
way
the
orientation
would
put
them
on
the
front
of
her
house,
but
she
has,
I
think
she
has
seven
kw
of
our
community
solar
asset
under
her
name.
So
you've
had
a
lot
of
success.
J
People
within
the
community,
stewart
being
one
but
there's,
essentially
a
thousand
that
have
participated
in
rooftop,
solar
or
some
other
self-generation
project
with
clean
energy.
Next
slide
yeah.
So
in
order
that
next
piece
is
pretty
just
it's
fundamental.
In
other
words,
you
have
supply,
you
can't
self-generate,
all
your
energy,
but
what
you
do
get
what
gets
generated.
What
gets
part
supplied
needs
to
be
reliable.
That's
our!
You
can
see
the
desc
the
performance
around
reliability.
J
I
guess
it's
ironic,
I'm
sitting
six
feet
away
from
mark
and
to
me
that's
the
greatest
resiliency
measure
is:
is
service
level
minutes
of
outage
and
ensuring
that
you
do
deliver.
Relia
reliably,
especially
in
a
period
of
time
now
where
people
are
thinking
about
having
to
stay
at
home
or
stay
home
way
more
often
than
they
used
to
supply
and
energy
delivery,
is
pretty
good,
important.
Kids,
kids,
learning
your
refrigeration.
J
The
metric
of
minutes
of
outage
are
are
important.
What
is
desc's
dominion,
energy,
south
carolina,
yeah
yeah,
so
forget
about
s-e-n-g.
Let's
go
forward
all
right
next
slide,
yeah.
So.
J
There
are,
I
don't,
have
the
the
obviously
we've
got
half
year
through
the
20,
but
you
can
see
the
trend
as
we
continue
to
to
make
investments
in
the
system.
Some
of
them
are
hardening
investments,
and
I
can
talk
about
those
they'll
be
on
the
next
slide,
but
you
can
see
the
the
downward
trend,
but
that's
an
expectation
I
think
our
customers
have
is.
If
you're
I
describe
it
like
this.
J
If
people
see
within
a
short
period
of
time
they
I
think
they
can.
They
can
live
with
forced
mature
events.
If
the
restoration
is
done
right,
but
it's
got
to
be
expedient.
I
think
what
happens,
though,
when
they
see
a
non-forced
major
event
outage
and
it's
about
an
hour
and
then
within
a
90-day
period.
They
see
another
event.
J
When
those
two
are
together,
they,
they
literally
believe
the
system,
is
third
world.
That's
the
perception
that
exists
and
that's
an
expectation.
I
think
that
customers
have,
which
is
a
lot
different
than
when
I
started
in
the
business
30
years
ago.
Next
slide
yeah.
So
here's
a
couple
of
examples.
I
know
nobody
likes
to
look
at.
J
You
know
big
big
hard
infrastructure,
but
the
in
the
end
of
the
day.
Most
of
the
work
that's
been
done
in
this
region
has
been
about
hardening
the
assets
so
that
you,
you
can't
build
a
system
to
be
able
to
withstand
90
mile
an
hour
winds
today
and
be
in
compliance
with
code.
So
when
you
upgrade
or
you
rebuild
it's
a
it's
a
140
mile
an
hour
wind
design
is
what
in
and
so
that
makes
the
asset
it
makes
it
bigger.
It
makes
it
stronger.
J
It
is
absolutely
resilient
and
it's
a
system
that
quite
frankly,
got
rebuilt
over
time,
starting
in
1989
hugo.
So
I
lived
through
that
that
was
the
early
part
of
my
career,
but
the
assets
that
are
in
place
now
are
are
significant
investments,
but
they'll
make
the
system
very
very
resilient,
going
forward
next
slide
yeah.
So
just
just
so,
in
the
end
of
the
day,
you
still
are
subject
to
forced
major
events.
J
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
have
an
idea
of
how
we
we
physically
locate
our
our
our
human
resources
and
then
a
lot
of
our
assets
and
how
those
all
work
together.
So
at
one
point,
the
city
of
charleston
at
about
640
meeting
street,
had
a
crew
quarter.
We've
consolidated
those
they're
all
on
higher
ground
in
a
location
in
north
charleston,
but
it's
20,
it's
20
feet
or
above
of
elevation
and
the
facility's
built
to
withstand
140
mile
an
hour
winds.
J
So
when
a
storm
comes
and
mark
wants
to
call
me
or
the
mayor
wants
to
call
me-
they
know
they
get
me
I'll,
be
in
I'll,
be
in
in
that
in
that
crew
quarter
or
in
that
that
that
area
at
aviation,
but
that's
the
layout
and
those
are
pretty
important
to
us.
It's
not
completely
centralized
that's
by
design,
it's
decentralized,
so
those
locations
where
the
dots
are
they
can
get.
They
can
get
out
quickly
and
get
to
places
to
complete
their
restoration.
J
So
that's
a
pretty
important
slide
to
understand
with
respect
to
resiliency
and
how
we
operate
our
system
next
slide
yeah.
So
here's
a
couple
of
quick
metrics
on
restoration,
everybody
remember
story
and
everybody
starts
to
forget
as
you
go
through
and
you
run
run
through
these.
I
I
when,
in
reading
the
army
corps
report,
I
noticed
they,
they
made
a
reference
to
storm
activity
and
I
think
they
said
within
the
last
20
years
last
two
decades
20
named
storms
passed
within
100
nautical
miles
of
charleston.
J
So
it's
almost
every
year
I
plan
for
a
minimum
of
one
force
major
event
every
year,
next
slide
yeah.
So
this
is
this
is
the
dorian
restoration,
and
actually
this
is
something
that
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
this
is
actually
I
would.
I
never
call
a
restoration
perfect.
The
restorations
are,
they
are
what
they
are
they're.
They
are
challenging,
they
pro
they
require
at
a
short
period
of
time,
a
lot
of
resources.
J
But
what
you're
looking
for
is
the
curve
that
exists
here,
you're
looking
for
a
basically
a
linear
and
then
you
get
to
the
end
and
it
has
a
drop-off
and
that's
typically,
what
you're,
looking
for
in
a
the
numbers
are
going
to
go
up
your
resiliency
and
some
of
your
automation
that
allows
you
to
do
some
restorations
quick.
You
see
a
quick
drop,
but
what
you
also
want
to
do
is
you
want
to
completely
align
the
amount
of
resources
that
you
have
with
the
information
that
you're
getting
from
next
slide
yeah?
J
So
I
want
to
go
to
the
customer
side,
because
I
think
this
is
a
place
where
there's
a
there's
a
ton
of
opportunity
and
there's
and
there's
actually
opportunity
in
all
the
different
energy
continuums,
but
it's
a
place
actually
where
the
city's
actually
done
done
a
good
job
which
I'll
I'll
share,
but
there
are
also
some
opportunities
around
led
lighting.
I
think
we've
already
talked
about
that
a
little
bit,
but
the
electrification
of
transportation
is
another
place.
That's
that's,
I
think
a
great
opportunity
so
next
slide.
J
Yeah,
so
so
we
we've
run
for,
I
guess
it's
eight
years
now,
nine
years,
an
energy
efficiency
program
where
the
fcng
and
then
now
dominion,
energy,
south
carolina,
offers
pretty
significant
rebates,
which
are
then
utilized
by
customers
for
investment
that
they
make
for
lighting
for
hvac
for
energy
controls.
J
The
city
has
actually
been
a
champion
on
using
some
of
those
incentives
and
then
investing
themselves
and
what
ultimately
ends
up
in
lower
energy
consumption
and
lower
demand.
So
the
way
the
programs
work
generally
are
that
the
utility
can
share
resources
and
the
money
that
actually
gets
invested
or
the
consumer
invests.
As
far
as
the
incentive
is
concerned,
it
essentially
allows
for
the
deferral
of
supply
side,
less
generation
or
it
pushes
it
out
so
the
better
more
effective
investment
is
actually
energy
efficiency.
J
So
it's
it's
demonstrated
and
proven
that
you
know,
as
long
as
you
can
reach
reasonable
payback
periods
for
the
participants.
That
is
the
best
investment
you
could
ever
make.
It
actually
is
phenomenal.
Now
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
city
stuff,
so
next
line
yeah.
So
just
within
the
zip
codes
in
the
city
of
charleston.
That's
the
end!
That's
the
annual
energy
savings,
there's
the
peak
six
megawatts
actually
and
there's
five
million
dollars
worth
of
incentives
that
have
gone.
C
J
The
so
those
are
it's
not
it's
not
perfect.
I
pull
zip
codes
that
were
that
were
in
the
city
of
charleston.
They
would
some
of
those
would
be
interspersed
a
little
bit
with
say,
for
instance,
the
town
of
james
island.
So
it's
it's
it's
rounding,
but
I
can
tell
you
when
I
looked
at
the
addresses
and
the
specific
accounts.
J
That's
a
really
good
number.
So
when
you
think
about
decarbonizing,
you
can't
beat
what
I
call
a
megawatt
because
it's
gone,
it's
no
longer,
there's
no
carbon
and
there
never
will
be,
which
is
why
that's
really
the
most
significant
investment
that
you
can
make
that
drives
your
carbon
down.
Not
only
do
you
have
to
deal
with
your
supply,
but
you
deal
with
your
load
side
too.
Next
slide,
yeah.
J
Here's
a
couple
of
projects
of
nuts,
so
in
every
capital
project
the
city
undertakes
they
do
they
do
a
really
good
job
on
the
analysis
with
respect
to
how
they
can
create
energy
efficiency.
So
there's
the
yeah
here's
these
projects
just
a
couple
of
projects
that
are
just
direct
city
of
charleston
projects.
So
you
know
a
third
of
a
million
dollars
from
incentives,
the
energy
savings,
the
reduction
in
the
peak,
and
then
I
think
the
most
recent
project,
which
got
a
lot
of
press
next
slide,
was
the
is
the
riley
park
yeah.
J
So
the
changing
out
of
the
of
the
lights
at
the
ball
field
to
led
so
that
change
out
warranted
a
54
dollar
incentive
from
the
company
and
then
look
at
the
savings.
Seventy
thousand
kwh,
which
are
significant
so
kudos
to
the
city
for
their
investment
or
focus
on
the.
C
J
Efficiency
side
next
slide
yeah.
So
this
this
is
a
hard
one
to
see,
but
what
I'll
most
important
thing
is,
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
that
slide
in
the
resolution-
and
I
don't
know
katie
if
that
was
my
ad
on
that
resolution
or
not.
But
but
I
wanted
to
focus
on
this-
there
are
six
thousand
what
I
call
cobra
headlights
that
are
in
line
for
an
incentive
for
led
replacements
and
they're
for
the
most
part
they're
all
over
the
surface
tier
tool
wherever
there's
overhead
assets.
J
So
there
are
six
thousand
potential
replacement
lights
that
we're
currently
working
on
with
the
city,
as
part
of
they
likely
will
be
the
first
participant
in
our
changeout
program,
which
is
really,
in
the
end
of
the
day
scheduled
to
be
offered
to
all
municipalities,
but
to
the
mayor's
granted.
He
immediately
saw
the
opportunity.
L
J
Then,
with
katie's
work
and
then
with
with
others
in
the
city,
we
think
it's
a
great
opportunity.
So
that's
advancing
next
yeah.
So
in
addition
we're
in
the
process
of
investing
in
what
what
I
would
call
technology
infrastructure
we
have,
we
don't
have
a
full
deployment
of
what
I
would
call
smart
metering,
but
you
can
see
the
schedule
so
starting
in
21
we
will
have
advanced
metering
infrastructure
which
will
which
will
cover
the
low
country
we're
doing
some
work
right
now
in
the
midlands.
J
But
this
is
it's
game-changing
technology,
because
it
creates
the
communication
in
the
information
infrastructure
that
then
allows
you
to
really
take
the
next
step.
When
it
comes
to
energy
efficiency,
you
can
actually
ultimately
link
up
value
and
time,
which
is
the
the
piece
that
mis
is
missing
today
and
causes
the
creation
of
models
that
maybe
have
estimates
but
aren't
as
precise.
J
You
get
to
precision
really
with
with
this
investment.
So
this
is
one
that
you're
seeing
deployment
all
over
the
country,
but
this
will
ultimately
have
a
significant
impact
on
demand.
J
Yeah,
so
that's
just
that's
generally
how
the
system
works
and,
ultimately
that's
how
the
communication
system
works,
which
I
want
to
all
the
way
over
to
the
right,
is
actually
the
middle
two
pieces
are
pieces
that
are
that
are
of
huge
interest,
obviously
to
the
utility,
the
distribution,
automation
that
helps
with
the
resiliency.
J
But
a
communication
network
can
also
be
used
as
a
bridge
for
other
opportunities
with
the
city,
so
they
might
be
most
people
use
the
term
smart
city
and
specific
applications
on
the
communication
network
that
might
mutually
benefit.
Both
parties
should
be
available
for
for
for
a
further
business
conversation
with
the
city.
So
that's
the
other
thing,
that's
exciting
about
the
smart
metering.
It
comes
with
the
communication
infrastructure
too.
J
Next
slide
yeah,
so
we
I
spoke
briefly
about
electrification,
so
those
are
the
charging
stations
that
exist
today
within
the
surrounding
area.
Katie
knows
this
and
I'm
not
breaching
any
confidentiality
agreements,
but
we're
working
with
the
biggest
names
in
the
in
the
world,
quite
frankly
on
additional
infrastructure
to
make
sure
that
we
can
address
kind
of
the
concept
of
range
anxiety.
J
So
you
could
have
an
ev,
but
if
you
don't
have
a
place
to
charge
when
you're
in
the
public
or
it
takes
a
long
time
it,
it
really
starts
to
diminish
the
opportunity.
The
value
of
the
opportunity
we
just
finished
up
with
an
installation
south
of
here
in
hardyville
tesla
installation,
and
we
engaged
with
them.
I
think
30
we
engaged
with
them
60
days
ago.
They
got
approval
and
they
built
a
supercharger
station
outside
of
hardyville
within
30
days.
J
So
that's
how
fast
you're
seeing
people
started
to
take
advantage
of
an
interest
in
ev
technology,
but
I
I
would
say
that
would
be
a
place
where
trendline's
great
we're
really
bullish,
we'll
be
having
some
filings
that
we'll
be
making,
probably
before
the
end
of
the
year,
based
on
the
regulatory
calendar.
But
that
will
create
some
opportunities.
There's
always
an
opportunity
to
do
bilateral
agreements
with
municipalities
who
who,
where
we're
the
franchise
supplier.
I
think
that
that
we
should
fill
the
page
with
dots.
J
I
think,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
create
opportunities
for
for
clean
transportation,
next
slide,
yeah,
so
really
back
to
the
back
to
again
the
energy
continue
continuum.
So,
as
we
begin,
we
talk
about
sustainability
and
resiliency.
I
I
would
remind
everybody
that
it
some
things
fit
in
one
bucket
and
they're.
J
Clearly
in
one
bucket
and
some
things
fit
in
a
different
bucket,
but
there's
but
there's
overlap
and
there's
dependency
and
when
you
think
about
how
you're
going
to
solve
problems
like
creating
you
know,
potentially
the
most
sustainable
city
in
the
southeast
forget
about
south
carolina,
let's
think
about
bigger
than
that,
but
do
it
in
the
context,
at
least
on
the
energy
side
of
the
three
buckets
and
how
they
might
work
together.
To
give
you
the
best
value
in
the
long
run.
C
J
Slide
yeah,
so
that
so
I
don't
think
anybody
can
dispute
this,
they
may
try,
but
the
city
of
charleston
has
made
significant
strides
in
the
last
10
years
on
a
number
of
clean
energy
initiatives.
The
numbers
back
that
up.
I
think
the
real
question
is,
though,
what's
the
what
are
the
next
steps
for
charleston
and
again,
you
know-
maybe
it's
maybe
it's
by
fate
that
market
are
sitting
in
here
and
mark's
working
on
something
you
know
to
ultimately
make
charleston
as
resilient
and
be
able
to
deal
with.
J
You
know
the
force
of
nature
and
in
a
way
that
is
critically
important
to
the
city,
but
let's
tell
there
are
other
things
to
also
be
thinking
about
and
working
on,
and
I
think
it's
an
important
question:
what
are
the
next
steps
for
charleston
in
terms
of
clean
energy
and
sustainability
and
what
are
what
are
good,
achievable
goals
and
then
what
are
our
aspirational
goals
as
we
move
forward?
So
I
breezed
through
that
pretty
quick
that
usually
advanced
resource
planning.
J
F
I
will
ask
one
stuart
danny
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
when
do
you
think
we'll
be
at
zero
for
using
coal
as
a
producer
of
electricity.
J
So
I
the
the
challenge
on
coal,
so
you
we've
already.
We
discussed
kind
of
the
economic
dispatch
piece
so
as
gas
continues
to
it
remains.
J
You
know
most
competitive
fossil
fuel
that
puts
that
puts
coal
on
it
back
on
a
back
burner.
The
thing
I
always
remind
people
is:
if
you
today,
you
would
operate
just
on
economics,
you
would
operate
on
gas
and
you
would
operate
on
nuclear.
I
I
think
what
happens
is
you've
gotta
it's
important
to
have
energy
storage
is
a
really
really
really
important
piece
of
this
equation.
J
When
you
can
put
energy
storage
with
renewables,
then
you
create
kind
of
an
equivalency
of
an
around-the-clock
resource,
so
you're
then
automatically
starting
to
take
two
thousand
pound
mass
co2
megawatt
hours
and
replacing
them
with
zero.
So
our
current
resource
plan
doesn't
it.
It
starts
to
address
that
you,
probably
if
you
read
it
you.
What
you
would
recognize
is
there's
this
there's
this
desire
to
go
to
that
next
step,
and
obviously
we
already
said
we
were
going
to
do
it
with
the
pledge.
J
It's
a
matter
of
how
you
do
it,
but
do
it
in
a
way.
That's
creates
optimization.
So
investments
in
the
end
of
the
day
get
paid
for
by
everybody,
so,
as
you
retire,
you've
got
to
have
something
right
now
to
replace
what
you
retire,
so
it
what's
the
optimal
way
to
do
it.
Is
it
it's
likely
to
be
gas
today,
but
it's
not
far
off
from
storage
plus
renewable
being
kind
of
the
next
iteration.
So
I
I
think,
you're
going
to
see
a
series
of
steps
in
that
process.
J
There's
there's
a
couple
of
paths
that
folks
have
taken.
Some
have
been
through
legislation.
Some
have
been
through
through
current
resource
planning
process,
but
they're.
D
All
right
any
other
questions
or
comments
for
for
danny.
This
is
been
enlightening
presentation.
That's
such
an
important
part
of
our
carbon
footprint,
and
we
appreciate
working
with
you
danny,
I'm
I'm
very
interested
and
thankful
that
we
take
these
street
lights
and
conversion
to
led
and
go
ahead
and
get
moving
on.
That
and-
and
thank
you
for
those
checks-
you've
been
sending
us.
We
we
I've
enjoyed
getting
those
for
those
incentive
bonuses.
We
in
addition
y'all
to
joseph
riley
park.
D
We
replaced
the
the
overhead
lights
at
stony
field
this
year
and
also
at
the
volvo
tennis
center
over
at
daniel
island.
So
we've
been
investing
this
money
straight
away
back
into
more
energy
savings
and
carbon
footprint
reduction.
D
All
right
so
public
comment
anybody
out
there
who
would
like
to
be
heard
by
this
committee
at
this
time,
katie
or
tracy.
Do
we
have
a
way
of
identifying
and
unmuting
them.
A
I'm
not
sure
that
anyone
wants
to
be
heard.
There
was
one
chat.
A
A
N
D
N
Hi
yeah,
so
I
I
I
just
if
anybody
has
questions
about
that.
The
issue
of
you
know
inland
folks
cleaning
up,
I
I
volunteer
with
surf
rider,
but
my
job
as
the
adult
is
the
adopt-a-highway
program
coordinator,
and
that
is
something
that
statewide
all
over
south
carolina.
N
So
there
are
efforts
being
made
to
not
just
clean
up
coastal
towns,
but
inland
towns
as
well
and,
as
we
know,
there's
quite
a
few
places
inland
that
have
not
adopted
the
bag
ordinance
and
are
still
using
plastic
bags.
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
point
that
out
that
there
are,
there
are
groups
in
place
to
take
care
of
litter,
but
the
ordinance
isn't
something
as
we
know
that
is
statewide.
K
E
I
just
wanted
to
say
out
loud
what
I
wrote
to
you
a
few
minutes
ago.
I
think
katie
is
amazing.
I
can't
imagine
all
the
work
that
she's
done,
while
the
rest
of
us
have
been
you
know,
dealing
with
the
virus
and
just
she's
been
moving
all
the
balls
to
all
the
goal
lines,
and
I
just
really
think
we
have
an
amazing
coordinator
for
this
committee.
So
thank
you
very
much.
D
I
you
have
a
unanimous
vote
on
that
katie
and
thank
you
for
all
your
efforts.
They
really
are
really
are
amazing
and
we
chatted
about
a
month
ago
about
keeping
going
on
all
these
things,
even
though
coronavirus
was
at
hand
and
and
she's
just
kept
kept
moving
things
along.
The
fact
that
we've
made
as
much
progress
on
the
greenhouse
gas
inventory
is
really
a
great
step
forward
and
it's
going
to
help
us
with
our
climate
action
plan.
D
Maybe
we
could
add
that
that
to
the
other
matter,
we
discussed
and
promote
the
idea
of
all
of
our
jurisdictions.
Taking
a
pledge,
you
know
to
save
energy
in
all
those
areas.
I
know
a
lot
of
them
are,
but
you
know
a
concerted
regional
effort
would
be.
Would
be
great
and
mark
thanks
for
your
continued
efforts
on
the
vulnerability
and
the
us
army
corps
of
engineers
proposed
project
all
right,
any
other
thing
to
come
before
us
today.