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Resiliency & Sustainability Advisory Committee 9/10/2020
G
A
If
we
had
been
truthful
for
the
last
50
years
about
the
impact
of
fossil
fuel
on
on
the
climate
change
and
and
I'm
not
saying
that
they
they
won't
be
uses
for
petroleum
products
in
the
future,
there
will
be
you
know,
but
but
our
global
challenge
is
to
reduce
those
gases
so
that
we
reduce
the
impact
of
climate
change.
So
anyway,
that's
that's
part
of
where
I'm
coming
from
scott
you're
doing
all
right.
A
Great
glad
to
have
you
with
us
to
be
here,
thank
you
and
rick
devoe.
Congratulations
on
your
upcoming
retirement.
I
don't
know
if
y'all
know.
I
hope
it's
not
an
appropriate
wreck
for
me
to
mention,
but
he
sent
me
an
email
announcing.
He
was
going
to
be
retiring
soon.
We're
going
to
miss
you,
but
you'll
still
be
with
us
right.
A
I
A
K
L
L
C
F
M
For
a
short
prayer,
our
dearly
father,
we
thank
you
for
the
blessings
of
this
day.
Lord,
we
ask
that
you'll
guide
us
and
and
you'll
help
us
in
this
important
meeting
lord
and
help
us
to
do
what's
best
for
the
city
of
charleston
and
do
what's
in
your
will
for
it's
in
your
holy
and
precious
name.
We
pray
amen.
N
A
Can
y'all
hear
me
again?
I'm
sorry,
yes,
okay!
So
sorry
I
was
gabbing
away
and
my
screen
just
went
blank
on
me
like
I
was.
I
got
disconnected
somehow
apologize.
So,
oh,
I
think
I
was
just
getting
ready
to
say.
We
got
a
lot
on
the
agenda,
but
we're
going
to
try
to
move
this
along,
have
called
us
to
order
join
me
just
for
a
moment
of
silence,
as
we
thoughtfully
reflect
on
our
our.
F
A
I
E
Well,
thank
you
so
much
mayor
and
everybody
else
is
on
this
morning,
such
a
very
distinguished
group
with
lots
of
influential
folks,
but
we
are
getting
underway
or
been
underway,
a
good
while
now
on
our
new
comprehensive
plan
which
we're
calling
our
new
charleston
city
plan,
and
it
is
a
very
important
plan.
In
fact,
I've
referred
to
it
in
some
of
our
meetings,
as
kind
of
like
the
granddaddy
of
all
our
plans
at
the
city.
E
So
it's
a
very
important
plan.
It's
very
important
that
we
have
very
good
community
participation
on
it.
We
are
right
now
in
a
mode
of
getting
that
community
participation,
which
has
its
challenges
because
of
our
whole
pandemic
situation
that
we
are
in.
We
are
doing
all
our
meetings
virtually,
although
we
are
allowing
folks
to
have
have
lead
your
own
meeting.
Neighborhood
groups
can
can
get
together
if
they
so
choose,
or
even
do
those
virtually
and
get
info
from
their
surrounding
community
members.
E
But
we
are
also
going
to
all
five
areas
of
the
city
virtually
and
having
discussions
with
folks
at
different
times
of
the
day
in
the
mornings
and
the
evenings
on
saturdays.
So
we're
trying
to
be
out
there
and
hear
from
folks
and
definitely
the
virtual
format
is,
is
different,
but
I
think
we
are
getting
higher
quality
participation
from
people
because
you
know
they're
kind
of
speaking
to
us
almost
like
one-on-one
like
we
do,
and
these
were
so
that's
been
very,
very
helpful.
E
You
all,
I
think,
would
be
very
interested
to
know
that,
of
course,
our
consulting
group
on
this
plan.
We
have
a
number
of
groups,
but
the
one
you're
probably
most
interested
in
is
wagner
ball
and
water
institute
of
the
gulf
are
are
leading
our
land
use
and
water
element,
and
in
this
plan
document
the
entire
document
is
oriented
around
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
the
water
issues
that
our
city
faces,
and
so
that
is
first
and
foremost
in
this
document,
and
we
are
really
digging
into
it
deeply.
E
E
The
whole
plan
itself
is
targeted
to
be
wrapped
up
as
far
as
having
a
draft
by
the
end
of
the
year
or
early
next
year,
and
then
we
will
be
having
joint
meetings
with
our
planning,
commission
and
city
council
to
discuss
the
elements
of
the
plan
and
get
feedback.
Our
planning
commission
is
kind
of
the
body
that's
charged
with
writing
the
plan
and
of
course
they
get
our
staff
to
do
the
the
bulk
of
that
work
for
them,
and
our
consultants
are
also
helping
on
that.
E
We
are,
these
will
be
virtual
meetings,
but
there
will
be
extensive
images
from
their
data
that
they
have
been
gathering
and
their
thoughts
about
how
we
can
help
plan
for
water.
So
I
hope
that
you
all
will
participate
in
that
and
we
would
love
to
see,
as
many
of
you
as
possible.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
quick
questions
you
all
might
have
on
our
planning
efforts
and
and
or
take
comments
whatever
works
best
and
y'all's
agenda.
Now.
O
E
A
B
If
you
don't
mind,
this
is
mark
with
the
port.
Just
a
quick
question
christopher
yes,
sir,
does
the
will
this
new
plan
evaluate
the
the
previous
comprehensive
plan
and
look
at
the
successes,
and
you
know
potential
areas
of
improvement
from
that
plan
and
and
what
can
be
improved
upon
with
this
new
one.
E
So
you
can
pull
that
up
there,
but
we
have
been
doing
that
absolutely
and
learning
from
that
document,
and
this
this
is
a
document
we
have
to
do
every
10
years
by
state
mandate,
and
so
you
know,
a
whole
lot
has
changed
in
the
city
over
the
last
10
years.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
very
different
document,
but
there
still
is
a
lot
to
learn
from
that
previous
one.
D
E
So
we
would
be
making
you
know,
land
use
recommendations
for
the
medical
district,
but
we
will
also
have
some
commentary
from
wagner
ball
and
the
water
institute.
Folks
in
reference
to
how
we're
dealing
with
water,
some
of
the
dutch
dialogues
recommendations
will
be
carried
over
in
there
and,
of
course,
they
focus
a
lot
on
the
medical
district
in
their
dutch
dialogues
study
and
we
will
be
bringing
some
of
those
ideas
forward
in
this
document
too.
Okay,.
A
J
A
Of
you
know,
charleston
is
part
of
a
effort,
effort
known
as
climate
mayors,
that
we
have
a
commitment
to
reduce
emission
by
80
percent
by
the
year
2050
based
on
a
baseline
of
2002,
and
if
you
use
the
old
adage,
you
can't
manage
something.
Unless
you
can
measure
it.
It
was
time
for
the
city
to
take
a
new
inventory
if
you
will
of
greenhouse
gases,
so
that
we'll
be
able
to
manage
that
proposed
reduction
by
way
of
having
a
updated
climate
action
plan.
So
with
that
intro
katie
take
us
away.
C
So
at
our
last
meeting
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
why
we
perform
a
greenhouse
gas
inventory
and
how
we
have
data
from
three
other
years,
so
we
have
data
from
2002,
2006
and
2010,
and
I'm
excited
to
announce
that
we
completed
the
data
for
the
year
2018
this
over
the
summer.
So
we
perform
this
inventory,
so
we
can
identify
what
our
greatest
sources
of
emissions
are
and
understand.
C
Trends
in
that
data
that
will
also
help
us
set
goals
and
targets.
So
we
can
set
a
goal
for
how
to
reduce
emissions
and
then
track
progress
on
meeting
those
goals,
and
that's
really
our
starting
point
for
our
climate
action
planning,
which
is
starting
next,
just
as
a
reminder,
the
emissions,
the
units
are
all
converted
to
metric
tons
of
carbon
dioxide
equivalent.
So
we
can
compare
apples
to
apples.
C
So
here's
an
opening
in
the
report
talks
about
some
of
the
changes
in
community
indicators
over
time.
So
some
of
the
reasons
the
emissions
go
up
or
down
here's
some
of
the
examples.
So
our
population
has
increased
50
percent,
since
2002
gross
domestic
product
has
grown
15,
we've
had
an
increase
in
cooling
degree
days.
We've
actually
had
a
decrease
in
heating
degree
days,
so
some
of
these
factors
affect
emissions
and
just
a
reminder
that
when
we
look
at
inventories,
we
are
looking
at
two
separate
inventories.
So
we
have
the
city-wide
inventory.
C
C
Then
there's
a
government
inventory-
and
this
looks
specifically
at
our
city
of
charleston
local
government
operations,
so
not
county
government
buildings
or
any
other
government.
It's
just
city
buildings,
so
it
looks
at
our
buildings
and
facilities
like
parks,
our
street
lights,
our
fleet
and
our
employee
commute.
So
we're
going
to
talk
about
these
two
separate
inventories
in
terms
so
keep
in
mind.
The
city-wide
is
everything
in
city
limits
and
because
our
local
government
operates
within
city
limits.
We
are
also
included
in
that
city-wide
inventory
and
we
make
up
about
two
percent
of
that
inventory.
C
C
C
And
now
we'll
compare
that
to
the
actually.
This
is
the
fy
18
government
inventory.
So
this
is
just
city
operations
we're
at
we're
at
28
000,
a
metric
tons
of
carbon
dioxide,
equivalent
42
of
our
inventory
is
our
emissions
are
from
buildings
and
a
majority
of
that
is
going
to
be
electricity,
even
smaller
amount
from
natural
gas,
27
percent
of
that
is
coming
from
our
fleet.
Most
of
that
is
gasoline
14
from
our
street
lights
and
18
from
our
employee
commute.
C
So
now
this
is
the
interesting
part
when
we
start
to
compare
these
over
time.
So
here's
the
city-wide
inventory
and
the
four
years
of
data
we
have
so
since
2002
we've
actually
decreased
emissions
15.
So
if
we
take
that
2002
and
go
all
the
way
to
2018
that
that
has
dropped
15
percent-
so
that's
a
that's
a
great
thing
you
can
see.
The
majority
of
the
emissions
are
still
coming
from
buildings.
So
all
the
blue
is
buildings.
C
So
again,
you
can
see
community
some
of
the
indicators,
the
population,
economic
activity,
how
those
heating
and
cooling
needs
change
over
time.
Our
vehicle
miles
travel
change
over
time.
The
fuel
efficiency
of
vehicle
changes,
we've
had
different
building
codes
over
time
and,
of
course,
our
grid
has
become
deep
over.
I
C
Well,
I
think
that's
a
good
discussion
for
the
for
the
committee
to
have,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
these
indicators
on
the
left
show
that
so
there
I
think
there
were
some
big
energy
code
changes
that
happened
when
we
switched
to
the
2009
code.
Of
course,
of
course,
the
fuel
efficiency
was
was
also
a
really
big
change.
Okay,
I
think
yeah
there's
that's
a
good
topic
of
conversation.
C
L
Yeah
sure
so
couple
things
just
high
level
things
one
is
the
the
city
started
to
move
forward
with
implementation
on
the
the
green
plan
or
the
elements
of
it.
So
you
had
the
city.
You
know
aggressively
moving
forward
on
energy
efficiency
so
that
so
that
drops
consumption.
That's
the
best
way
to
do
it.
We
showed
that
I
think
at
the
last
meeting
in
my
presentation,
but
the
other
thing
is
you've.
C
And
then,
if
we
look
at
the
government
inventory
over
time
so
again,
this
is
just
our
city
of
charleston
operations.
We've
decreased
about
five
percent,
so
remain
relatively
flat.
You
can
see
that
our
our
buildings
over
time
have
decreased
and,
as
danny
mentioned,
this
is
a
huge
part
and
thanks
to
our
energy
performance
contract
that
we
have
with
johnson
controls,
where
we
did
a
lot
of
work
on
our
heavy
energy
consumers
consuming
buildings
and
really
added
a
lot
of
elements
that
reduce
our
our
demand
on
energy
for
those
buildings.
C
So
that
has
really
helped
keep
in
mind
that
we've
also
added
a
lot
of
new
facilities.
Since
2002,
we
dramatically
updated
the
gilliard
and
auditorium
and
added
city
offices
to
that
building.
We've
added
you
know
fire
stations
as
populations
have
grown
and
other
buildings.
So
this
is.
This
is
a
big
deal
that
a
lot
of
that
our
city
building
percentage
has
dropped
so
much.
I
think
that's
really
important.
C
We've
also
done
some
energy
efficiency
improvements
outside
that
contract.
Our
parks
department
has
taken
those
on
such
as
you
know,
changing
light
bulbs,
leds
some
of
the
simpler
stuff
and
again,
some
of
those
heat
and
cooling
needs
have
changed.
We've
seen
an
increase
in
city
employees
from
2002
we've
seen
an
increase
in
our
city
fleet
vehicles,
we've
seen
an
increase
in
vehicle
efficiency,
so
and
again,
of
course,
as
danny
pointed
out
to
you
that
cleaner
grid,
how
that
that
supply
that
is
becoming
cleaner
and
that
that
really
helps
to
reduce
these
emissions
to
you.
O
C
Yes
great
question:
we
have
actually
been
tracking
that
since
most
of
the
employees
started
working
from
home
and
we
have
some
great
data
and
it
has
shown
that
we've
really
significantly
reduced
employee
emissions
from
employee
commute
in
2020.
So
it'll
be
interesting.
If
we
end
up
doing
an
inventory
for
that
year
to
see
how
that
works,
but
hopefully
that
data
can
help
drive
some
of
the
ways
we
can
have
more
flexible
schedules
to
really
help
drop
that
employee
commute
emissions
factor.
So
that's
a
really
good
point.
Thanks
for
bringing
that
up.
C
Okay
I'll
move
on,
but
we
can
always
go
back
so
so,
like
I
said,
this
is
really
great.
We've
obviously
made
some
progress,
reducing
emissions,
but
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done.
So
next
we're
going
to
focus
on
you
know,
re-looking
at
that
emissions
reduction
goal.
As
mayor
teklenberg
said
he
has
signed
us
on
to
climate
mayors,
so
we
actually
have
a
goal
of
80
percent
reduction
by
the
year
2050.
C
we're
going
to
re-look
at
that
goal.
As
we
start
our
climate
action
planning
process
officially
today
and
we'll
work
on
updating
our
climate
action
plan.
Next,
we
have
done
some
great
work
in
our
past
on
the
2010
charleston
green
plan.
So
I'm
excited
to
draw
a
lot
of
inspiration
from
that
plan
and
have
a
we
have
a
lot
of
support
from
the
community
who
actually
helped
on
that
plan.
That
is
interested
in
helping
with
that
with
the
update.
So
that's
really
exciting
and
this
whole
inventory
will
be
posted
on
online.
A
A
C
L
L
I
don't
think
they
get
credit
doesn't
mean
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
there's
some
neat
things
that
we're
going
to
do
in
the
next
iteration
but
yeah,
to
to
staff
and
and
to
others,
credit
there's
a
lot
of
positive
going
on.
You
guys
should
at
least
take
credit
for
for
a
couple
of
seconds
and
then
move
on.
Let's
get
to
the
next
step
right.
C
It's
a
community
effort,
as
as
you
can
see
that
even
just
the
government
inventory
is
a
small
piece
of
our
city-wide
emissions.
So
it's
really
important
that
we
all
work
together
and
that's
why
we
need
everyone's
input
and
help
creating
the
climate
action
plan,
because
we
all
need
to
do
our
part
if
we
want
to
help
meet
meet
some
demanding
goals.
G
Just
a
little
rebel
comment
on
that
basis
of
needing
a
community
effort,
and
we
all
should
be
taking
credit
for
the
things
that
we
do
as
citizens
and
things.
I
do
think
it's
sort
of.
I
mean,
I
understand
it
on
the
financial
part,
but
it
seems
like
an
oxymoron
to
me
that
people
who
own
hybrid
and
electric
vehicles
end
up
paying
a
subsidy
fee
to
people
that
don't
on
the
gas
tax
basis.
So
I
really
think
that
would
be
a
nice
statement
by
the
state
legislature.
L
C
Okay,
so
now
that
we
have
the
new
the
new
inventory,
so
we've
completed
milestone
one
inventorying
emissions,
so
we're
moving
on
to
mountain
two
and
three
so
we're
looking
at
we
looking
at
that
emissions
reduction
goal.
If
we
want
to
make
that
more
stringent,
if
we
want
to
add
maybe
a
smaller
goal,
so
a
more
short-term
goal
right
now
we
only
have
a
20-50
goal,
we
could
create,
say
a
2030
goal
and
and
basically,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
it,
a
climate
action
plan,
it's
really
just
an
action
plan.
C
It's
a
strategy
that
outlines
initiatives
that
will
reduce
our
emissions.
So
obviously
a
key
goal
is
to
create
a
strategy
that
is
supported
by
the
entire
community
and,
of
course,
city
council.
So
that's
why
we
are
asking
the
entire
community
and
city
council
and
leaders
and
all
kinds
of
interest
groups
to
be
part
of
the
process.
C
So
we
have
lots
of
opportunities
for
the
public
to
get
involved
and,
like
I
said,
it's
really
important
that
people
do
so,
I'm
really
glad
to
see
so
many
people
on
the
call.
Today
there
is
a
public
meeting
already
scheduled
for
october
6th.
You
can
sign
up.
You
can
register
to
join
the
meeting
and
provide
your
input
on
our
on
the
website
listed
at
the
bottom.
C
There
will
be
surveys
up
online
in
addition
to
future
public
meetings.
Other
ways
you
can
a
voice.
Your
opinion
are
during
meetings
like
this.
We
have
a
public
comment
period
at
the
end
at
city
council
meetings.
There
you
use
those
opportunities
to
to
contact
your
leaders.
You
can
also
reach
out
to
the
sustainability
division
directly
myself,
I'm
happy
to
chat
with
you
and,
of
course
you
can
contact
city,
council,
members
or
committee
members
directly.
C
I
think
one
of
the
big
ways,
I'm
fortunate,
that
a
lot
of
people
will
be
participating
is
by
volunteering
on
a
climate
action
task
force
or
committee,
so
I'll
jump
into
that
now.
So
this
is
this
is
getting
a
little
complicated,
more
complicated
than
just
a
simple
task
force.
So
I
wanted
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
the
plan
will
evolve
and
the
leaders
that
will
be
part
of
the
process.
C
Then
they're
going
to
present
that
to
a
group
of
subcommittees,
so
the
subcommittees
will
be
very
focused,
refined
groups
and
we'll
talk
very
specifically
like,
for
example,
a
subcommittee
on
buildings
or
subcommittee
on
waste
and
and
they'll
work
on
very
specific
items.
To
that
subject
then
they'll
present
their
findings
to
back
to
the
climate
action
task
force
and
that
and
it
will
be
the
task
force,
responsibility
to
then
evaluate
those
those
items
through
many
lenses,
there's
many
tools
you
can
evaluate
and
prioritize
items
and
ultimately
create
that
draft
action
plan.
C
Now
they
may
actually
go
back
to
the
subcommittee
and
circle
back
a
few
times
then,
once
the
climate
action
task
force
is
comfortable,
that
they
would
send
it
back
to
the
resilience
and
sustainability
advisory
committee.
Who
would
then
review
and
refine
perhaps
ask
to
go
the
task
force
to
go
back
and
refine
something
and
then
ultimately
send
it
to
city
council
for
final
review
and
refinement
and
final
approval
authority,
so
you
can
see
that
there's
there's
public
input
throughout
this
whole
process
at
all
of
these
levels.
C
We
have
lots
of
folks
that
have
volunteered
to
be
part
of
our
climate
action
task
force
in
our
subcommittee.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
that.
If
there's
anyone
else
on
these
on
the
call
that
is
interested
in
being
a
specific
part
of
those
groups,
please
please
reach
out
to
me
it's
not
too
late
to
join
those,
but
I'm
really
excited
that
we've
over
100
people
that
are
interested
in
being
part
of
it.
So
that's
really
great.
C
C
Is
it
okay
that
they're
very
visioning?
Could
it
maybe
be
a
combination
of
both
like
a
long-term
vision
goal,
but
a
short
term?
That's
more
achievable
talk
to
us
about
how
important
is
fiscal
responsibility
and
making
what
that
means
to
our
taxpayers.
Talk
to
us
about
equity,
environmental
justice.
You
know:
diversity,
inclusion,
rights
of
property
owners,
business
owners
residents.
How
important
do
you
want
to
make
sure
the
task
force
keeps
these
in
mind,
or
is
this
all
about
reducing
emissions
and
then,
of
course,
the
consideration
of
future
technological
advancements?
C
So,
for
example,
battery
storage
is
something
we
could
theoretically
purchase
tomorrow.
But
if
we
could
wait
five
years,
the
technology
would
be
that
much
greater.
So
if,
if
you
all,
could
just
kind
of
open
up
a
little
discussion
and
give
us
some
of
your
ideas
to
help
guide
the
task
force-
and
I
will
be
taking
rigorous
notes-
and
we'll
probably
show
this-
this
part
of
the
video
to
the
task
first
to
you
so.
A
I
I
If
there's
a
way,
we
can
include
a
principle
to
to
try
to
ensure
that
all
segments
of
the
charleston
society
have
input
not
just
an
opportunity
to
input,
but
that
we
actually
maybe
go
get
some
if
we're
not
getting
it
from
certain
places
or
or
our
groups.
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
principle,
but
just
something
to
think
about.
Sometimes
it's
hard
to
get
at
some
of
these
constituencies
and
I
think
they're
they're
certainly
going
to
be
affected
by
the
plan
or
have
influence
over
the
plan.
I
Secondly,
if
I,
if
I
may
speak
up
for
the
natural
resource
base
upon
which
we
all
depend-
and
maybe
if
we
include
some
a
bullet
here
in
terms
of
sort
of
aligned
with
the
rights
of
property
owners,
business
owners
of
residents,
sort
of
the
sort
of
the
that's-
the
the
conservation
prince-
a
principle
about
conservation
that
we
want
to
as
we
move
forward
that
we're
also
seeking
to
ensure
that
the
natural
resource
base
upon
which
we
depend
is
is
maintained
or
whatever
the
right
term.
Is.
F
May
I
hi
kevin
weinberg,
yes,
thank
you.
One
of
the
things
I
think
we
might
want
to
look
at
is
whether
or
not
the
goal
of
80
reduction
from
2002
should
be
reviewed,
and
should
it
be
even
more
because
we're
going
back
to
2002.
So
that's
one
thing:
that's
that's.
I
think
it's
important.
The
other
thing
is
what
I've
seen
throughout
the
united
states-
and
we
haven't
done
that
done
this
here
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we
don't
is
to
come
up
with
a
plan
that
we
can't
afford
to
do
so.
F
A
O
O
J
L
Good
the
I
want
to
really
follow
up,
and
I'm
going
to
paraphrase
what
stewart
said,
but
I
think
it's
important.
It
links
a
couple
of
things
together.
I
I
in
the
end
of
the
day
we
we
need
to
balance,
cost
and
access
to
the
outcome,
and
I
think
he's
exactly
right.
Is
you
can't
claim
to
want
to
do
something
that
doesn't
economically
work,
and
I
think
those
who
get
impacted
the
most
by
a
bad
analysis
or
something
that
can't
be
achieved
are
those
that
have
that
have
the
least
ability
to
afford
it.
L
L
L
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
take
place,
but
should
we
have
a
shorter
goal
and
get
to
x?
That's
something:
that's
achievable
and
then
get
to
the
next
increment
of
it,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
are
that
happen
in
the
in
the
energy
space.
With
respect
to
technology
that,
I
think,
drive
the
cost
to
a
better
outcome,
and
that
allows
us
to
kind
of
meet
that
first
goal
with
respect
to
to
equity
and
then
and
then
cost.
A
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
I
I
totally
agree
with
you
know
whatever,
and
if
dudley
wasn't
going
to
put
in
the
commercial
for
the
commission,
I
was
just
going
to
prompt
him.
So
it's
really
good
to
know
that
we've
got
the
kinds
of
synergy
that
are
already
you
know
getting
started
in
the
community,
especially
as
we
see
the
cross
connection
between
a
lot
of
these
topics
that
that
katie
was
thoughtful
to
put
in
front
of
us.
So
I
totally
agreed
that
we
should
have
achievable
goals
that
you
know.
G
A
lot
of
the
achievement
factor
is
based
on
ability
to
pay
and
the
re
then
the
realism
of
where
we
are
in
the
moment
of
time
and
if
we
have
these
fights
at
the
apple.
So
basically
you
have
a
long-term
longer-term
goal
that
everyone
can
agree
to
is
not
aspirational
but
long
term
and
then
have
the
incremental
goals
and
steps
and
make
sure
that
you
tie
in
the
communities
that
that
will
be
either
the
most
benefited
and
or
the
the
most
negatively
impacted.
G
I
think
you
you'll
see
that
it
really
becomes
an
interwoven.
You
know
action
plan,
so
I'm
very
encouraged
that
we've
got
the
right
things
to
consider.
I
I
was
wondering,
if
maybe
on
the
aspirational
longer
term
thing,
we
should
just
start
looking
at
the
values
of
the
plan
so
that
we
know
that
we've
got.
You
know
those
overarching
concepts
and
agreements
that
we're
not
going
to
let
go
of
that,
but
the
measurable
and
the
achievable
steps
along
the
way
would
be
much
more
specific
and
and
detailed
and
and
collectively
agreed
to
as
a.
H
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
if
I
could
I'd
like
to
second
the
comments
of
councilwoman
jackson
about
the
values
piece,
I
think
it'd
be
really
helpful
if
we
had
some
core
values
to
spring
from,
and
I
won
the
second
one
of
the
comments
that
danny
had
mentioned
in
expandable
a
little
bit.
This
list
currently
identifies
rights
of
property
owners,
businesses
and
residents,
but
danny
was
starting
to
talk
about
economic
impacts,
which
I
think
need
to
have
their
own
line.
H
We're
not
going
to
have
property
rights.
We're
also
talking
about
the
economic
impact
of
these
efforts,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
should
assume
that
those
economic
impacts
are
necessarily
negative.
I
think
we
should
also
look
for
positive
economic
impacts
as
a
part
of
these
guiding
principles,
so
I
think
economic
impacts,
both
positive
and
negative.
A
Absolutely,
and
for
example,
I
I
know
for
some
years-
we've
supported
weatherization
type
programs
that
help
save
energy
and
reduce
greenhouse
gases,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
we
focus
those
efforts
on
lower
income
property
owners,
we
saved
them
money
in
the
long
run,
so
yeah
you're,
absolutely
right.
There's
there's
a
way
to
skim
this
cap,
where
we
bring
economic
benefits
to
to
those.
O
A
A
A
We're
open
for
volunteers
that
want
to
participate,
and
then
there
will
be
subcommittees
as
well.
That
might
be
appropriate,
as
katie
mentioned,
on
specific,
more
specific
topics
and
for
for
the
public,
that's
listening
in
on
this
meeting,
we
would
welcome
involvement
from
the
public
as
well.
So
just
let
us,
let
us
know,
through
the
chat
box
or
by
contacting
katie
if
you'd
be
interested
in
in
serving
in
some
capacity.
A
A
I
am
happy
to
say
that,
as
you
all
know,
they
extended
the
public
input
session
so
that
we'll
have
another
opportunity.
Another
bite
at
the
apple
after
the
first
of
the
year
we're
working
diligently
continuing
to
get
good
recommendations
of
the
corps
of
engineers
and
mark
probably
was
getting
ready
to
say
this.
They
received
a
robust
comments
from
the
public
and
they
were
listening.
A
I
was
with
them
and
mark
about
a
week
ago
we
did
a
actual
ride
around
the
peninsula
and
we
were
talking
about
already
the
suggestions
that
they've
heard
from
the
public
that
they
are
considering
working
into
the
plan
that
will
substantially
reduce
the
impact
to
marsh
areas
and
wetlands,
so
they
really
are
listening
and
so
mark.
I
hope
I
didn't
steal
any
of
the
thunder,
but
mark
wilbur
will
give
us
an
update
on
this
mark.
N
Thank
you
mayor.
No,
you
didn't
steal
my
thunder,
you
just
add
it
to
it,
which
is
great.
So
thank
you.
So
really.
My
purpose
today
is
just
to
give
you
a
quick
update.
I
hope
to
give
you
a
more
comprehensive
one,
our
next
meeting,
because
we'll
be
moving
to
another
one
of
their
agency
decision
milestones.
But,
as
the
mayor
said,
since
the
release
of
the
tsp
there
was
robust
public
comments
submitted.
N
The
army
corps
has
been
going
through
each
and
every
one
of
those
public
comments.
As
have
members
of
city
staff.
We
did
conduct
many
outreach
sessions
during
the
public
outreach
portion,
and
I
estimate
because
it's
hard
to
know
for
sure
estimate
that
we
reached
about
a
thousand
viewers
using
zoom
and
other
means
working
not
just
by
ourselves,
but
certainly
with
a
number
of
groups
throughout
town.
So
I
I
considered
that
quite
a
success.
N
N
I
think
we've
made
progress,
but
I
think
I
also
need
to
be
honest
and
say:
there's
still
a
lot
more
work
to
do.
Some
of
it
will
get
done
in
the
study.
Some
of
it
will
likely
get
done
in
the
next
phase
in
preliminary
engineering
and
design.
So
optimization
included
things
like
the
footprint
alternative
solutions.
N
N
What
we've
been
doing
in
the
city
is:
how
could
we
and
how
would
we
address
our
concerns
and
those
of
the
city
of
the
citizens
in
when
we
get
to
the
next
phase,
preliminary
engineering
and
design,
and
that's
that
will
be
at
least
a
couple
years
out.
Other
things
that
we've
been
doing
we've
been
participating
in
a
visual
impact
analysis,
along
with
the
historic
charleston
foundation
and
the
preservation
society.
N
I've
been
serving
on
that
team
and
that's
really
taking
areas
around
the
city
and
trying
to
visualize
and
quantify
what
the
impacts
will
be
of
a
wall
in
place
and,
and
we
looked
at
six
areas
more
will
be
looked
at
in
the
next
phase.
We
had
a
kickoff
from
the
section
106
of
the
national,
historic
preservation
act
and
working
towards
a
programmatic
agreement,
and
again
there
were
the
preservation
agencies
in
charleston
were
present.
For
that
they'll
be
invited
to
comment.
N
The
city
will
be
part
of
that,
but
there's
also
many
many
federal
and
state
agencies.
That
will
be
part
of
that
to
ensure
that
our
historic
preservation
that
we've
worked
so
hard
with
here
in
the
city
that
all
of
the
federal
laws
are
followed
and
that
the
the
community
has
an
opportunity
to
to
weigh
in
on
that.
We
did.
N
From
the
new
army
corps
of
engineers,
southeast
commander,
colonel
kelly,
the
mayor
had
a
chance
to
meet
with
him.
We
met
up
on
the
high
battery,
he
was
in
town.
He
really
expressed
his
support
for
the
project
and
his
willingness
to
work
with
the
city
and
the
community.
He
stressed
the
community
in
particular
to
make
sure
that,
to
the
extent
that
the
army
corps
could
they
were
addressing
our
needs
and
concerns.
N
Likewise,
the
mayor
talked
about
the
boat
trip
that
we
took
around
the
peninsula
and
that's
really
to
talk
about
the
things
that
they've
already
adjusted
in
optimization,
responding
to
the
environmental
agencies,
but
also
to
give
a
perspective
of
what
the
peninsula
would
look
like
from
the
water
whether
the
wall
was
in
the
water
or
we
put
it
up
on
shore
and
how
that
changes.
The
perspective
of
things
from
the
waterside
view.
N
N
The
next
big
meeting
for
the
army
corps
is
the
agency
decision
milestone
and
that
will
be
in
october.
Obviously,
the
city
will
be
represented.
Some
of
the
work
going
forward
for
the
army
corps
is
looking
at
interior
hydrology.
That's
a
concern
in
public
comments,
they'll
be
looking
at
that
in
the
next
phase.
Final
pumps
and
gates
impacts
the
surrounding
communities.
N
That
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
citizens
were
concerned
with
that,
that's
also
on
their
schedule
for
the
next
phase,
the
non-structural
actions
we'll
be
looking
at
those
very
close,
and
I
think
really.
We
want
to
dive
deep
into
the
social
environmental
justice
issues
and
we
would
actually
councilman
gregory
would
love
to
get
in
front
of
your
commission
as
well
to
have
an
opportunity
to
discuss
about
that
wagner
and
ball.
Team
will
soon
be
here
under
contract
they're,
going
to
help
us
to
review
the
study
and
help
us
begin
to
craft.
N
Our
comments
for
the
second
public
comment
period
and
to
begin
really
thinking
about
pet
phase,
so
the
next
public
comment
period
should
be
in
january,
that'll,
be
a
release
of
the
optimized
plan
and
then
we'll
have
a
30-day
comment
period
after
that.
With
that
I'll
take
any
questions
or
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
topic.
A
C
You
mayor,
so
we
have
a
couple
challenges
with
mattresses
in
the
city.
One
is
that
they're
not
usually
accepted
for
donation
because
of
health
concerns,
and
that
was
before
kovid.
They
take
up
lots
of
space
in
the
landfill.
They
can't
really
be
compacted
so
they're
considered
uncompacted
voids,
and
last
year
we
learned
that
they
can
no
longer
be
taken
to
the
bees
ferry
landfill,
which
is
the
closest
landfill.
So
now
we
have
to
travel
a
little
farther
and
take
them
up
to
the
labs
in
landfill.
C
C
If
we
have
to
pay
some
extra
money
to
take
these
further,
maybe
we
could
look
at
recycling
them
instead
of
landfilling
them,
so
we
applied
for
a
grant
earlier
this
year
from
scd-heck,
and
we
were
just
awarded
that
and
it
will
help
us
test
a
pilot
project
to
recycle
mattresses,
so
we'll
test
methods
on
how
we
collect
them,
how
we
temporarily
store
them
and
then
how
the
mattresses
are
ultimately
transported
to
a
special
recycling
facility
that
just
handles
mattresses
and
that's
in
pamplico,
south
carolina.
So
it's
about
two
hours
away,
so
it's
it.
C
It
should
be
an
interesting
pilot.
We
have
we're
lucky
to
have
some
funds
to
try
this
and
the
goal
is.
If
we
can
have
a
successful
program,
then
we
could
maybe
create
an
a
new
program
to
recycle
mattresses
in
the
future
too.
So
we're
just
starting
the
planning
for
it.
We're
hoping
we
can
start
recycling
our
first
mattresses,
maybe
november
december
time
frame,
so
I'll
provide
more
information,
probably
at
our
next
meeting
about
that,
but
really
quickly.
C
A
lot
of
people
ask
me
so
if
you're
recycling
mattresses,
are
you
creating
new
mattresses
out
of
old
mattresses?
And
that
is
not
the
case
when
we
recycle
mattresses,
we
actually
break
them
down
into
their
raw
materials.
So
foam
is
usually
used
as
new
carpet
padding
the
steel
parts
can
all
be
smelted
down
and
sold
for
reuse
and
lots
of
things
typically
box
spring
wood
is
untreated,
so
you
can
use
that
for
some
neat
reclamation
projects
you
know
building
a
bookshelf
or
something
or
they
can
be
used
for
mulch
or
firewood.
C
A
A
C
Great
thank
you
mayor
so
now
I'll
move
on
to
charleston
rain
proof
so
just
for
there
might
there's
a
couple
new
folks
on
the
line.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
brief
update
of
that
troll.
Some
rain
proof
is
a
program
that
we
were
piloting.
That
was
actually
a
recommendation
from
the
dutch
dialogues
and
it's
an
inspiration
from
the
amsterdam
rain
proof
program
and
it's
basically
about
inspiring
residents
and
businesses
to
take
individual
action
and
install
their
own
rain
proof
items
such
as
rain,
gardens,
rain
barrels
and
planting
new
trees.
C
So
it's
really
about
the
whole
community.
Working
together.
We
have
this
one
common
goal
to
address
increasingly
frequent
and
heavy
rainfall.
Why
don't
we
utilize
all
the
spaces?
We
have
public
and
private,
so
that's
sort
of
the
idea
and
we
have
recently
added
a
new
greenproof
showcase
map
to
our
website.
So
you
can
see
here.
This
is
actually
mayor,
teklenberg's
ring
garden,
and
this
new
showcase
map
will
not
only
shows
all
the
projects
around
around
the
region,
but
it
will.
C
It
also
collects
data,
so
we
can
measure
the
impact
you
can
see
on
the
bottom
there
that
we're
collecting
some
of
the
data
on
how
much
and
then
we
can
actually
calculate
how
much
rainfall
is
being
absorbed
in
that
and
being
diverted
from
the
stormwater
system.
So
this
map
is
available
to
anyone
can
add
their
rainproof
project
to
this
map.
It
is
live
on
that
website
listed
below
it's
the
homepage,
rainproof
and
we'd
love
to
get
more
projects
up
here.
C
A
P
A
Simple
matter,
y'all
of
as
we
decided
to
convert
from
lawn
to
more
of
a
garden
effect,
we
we
in
essence
put
a
berm
around
our
property
and
then
we
added
water
storage
coming
from
all
our
downspouts
around
the
house,
and
I
set
up
a
little
drip
irrigation
system
from
these.
These
containers
to
be
able
to
water
the
garden.
So
it's,
but
in
my
neighborhood
water
doesn't
drain
very
well.
A
C
So,
as
a
second
update,
we're
trying
to
help
encourage
property
owners
to
install
these
rain
proof
projects,
so
typically
a
rain
garden
can
cost
around
300
to
500
to
install
depending
on
what
soil
amendments
and
how
big
it
will
be
and
how
many
plants
you
need-
and
things
like
that.
So
we've
actually
partnered
with
keep
charleston
beautiful,
which
is
an
affiliate
of
the
city
and
the
clean
cities,
sweep
grant
funding,
and
we
have
secured
about
two
thousand
dollars
to
help
support
the
creation
of
rain
gardens.
C
So
the
first
10
projects
will
get
a
200
credit
towards
native
plants
in
their
new
rain
garden
and
we're
working
with
a
local
nursery
to
provide
those
native
plants,
and
we're
really
excited
about
this,
so
it
really
easy
requirements.
You
just
need
to
be
in
city
limits.
We
do
need
to
install
them
by
this
fall
because
that's
their
grant
deadline,
and
then
we
ask
that
you
will
add
your
rain
garden
to
the
rainproof
showcase
map.
That
way
your
data
is
shared
publicly
and
your
we
can.
We
can
help
share
some
of
that
information.
C
So
if
anyone
is
interested,
these
are
open
to
residents,
businesses,
organizations,
anyone
the
first
10
people,
the
first
10
folks
to
sign
up
and
commit
to
doing
it.
So
this
is
really
exciting
and
again
all
this
information
is
on
the
website.
The
link
to
sign
up
is
on
the
website
so
and
if
you
already
have
a
re-improved
project,
go
ahead
and
add
it
to
that
map.
A
A
D
D
So
we've
got
anything
from
drainage
projects
with
the
city
and
tidal
control
with
the
city
to
a
cmd
proof
effort,
just
like
the
charleston
rainproof
effort
that
katie
just
mentioned.
So
I'm
going
to
go
over
a
few
of
these
in
detail.
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
we've
been
looking
at
so
next
slide.
D
D
D
D
So
this
is
this
top
picture
here
on.
The
left
is
looking
down
dowdy
street
from
courtney
street,
and
the
idea
here
is
to
capture
water
above
and
below
ground
and
potentially
store
cars
below
ground
as
well.
But
once
this
water
is
captured
and
stored,
then
we
would
drain
it
off
pump
it
off
to
the
long
lake,
and
that
is
the
lake
that
is
adjacent
to
lockwood
boulevard,
and
we
would
also
implement
green
infrastructure
here,
possibly
a
green
roof,
a
lot
more
trees
on
the
street
to
capture
water
as
well.
D
D
So
you
already
heard
about
the
perimeter
protection
with
usa
from
mark
so
I'll
tell
you
about
these
two
over
here
on
the
right
along
lockwood
boulevard
in
the
ashley
river
and
along
gridlink
park.
Also
in
the
ashley
river,
we've
been
working
with
the
south
carolina
department
of
natural
resources
and
they
have
a
grant
that
musc
supported
and
that
grant
would
be
for
oyster
beds
along
these,
where
these
two
blue
lines
are
so
that
will
help
build
a
natural
perimeter
along
the
ashley
river
and
help
the
whole
peninsula,
not
just
the
medical
district
next
slide.
D
So
here
are
some
of
the
projects
that
we've
been
working
on
already
before
we
even
came
up
with
the
concept
of
rainproof,
so
this
cistern
here
is
in
our
urban
farm,
and
that
is
a
350
gallon
cistern
and
it
overflows
into
this
rain
garden
over
here,
and
that
is
also
in
the
urban
farm
and
just
outside
of
the
urban
farm.
We
plan
to
put
two
more
rain
gardens
in
the
near
future.
This
fall
and
then
right
down
here
you
see
this
pad.
D
It's
it's
surrounded
by
a
lot
of
concrete
right,
so
we
needed
to
add
another
pad
and
instead
of
putting
more
concrete,
we're
putting
permeable
surfaces
now
so
that
you
know
we're
not
adding
to
that
runoff
problem
and
over
here
at
roper.
This
is
a
beautiful
picture
of
one
of
their
parks.
Musa
and
roper.
Both
have
a
lot
of
really
nice
parks
with
a
lot
of
grand
oak
trees
and
other
grand
trees,
and
those
trees
are
just
invaluable
as
green
infrastructure
for
taking
up
the
storm
water.
D
D
D
A
G
A
All
right,
so
we
we're
moving.
Thank
you
again
christine
and
before
we
go
to
the
public
comment.
I
wanted
to
see
if
any
of
the
committee
members
wanted
to
make
any
comments,
but
I
did
want
to
shout
out
to
ron
mitchum
who,
as
you
all
know,
is
the
executive
director
of
the
berkeley,
charleston
dorchester
council
of
governments
and
he's
on
the
line
with
us,
or
at
least
I
saw
his
name
and
katherine
bashan.
Is
I
see
her
name
as
well?
A
J
P
J
K
Morning,
good
morning,
everybody
I'm
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
did
speak
before
this
committee
ages
ago.
Our
last
live
meeting
before
the
covid
shutdown
and
anyway,
I'm
mark
gould
and
I
live
in
canonboro
or
I
see
a
lot
of
dry
weather
flooding
every
month
and
I'm
the
local
leader
of
citizens,
climate
lobby.
K
It'll
raise
a
lot
of
money,
all
of
which
will
be
returned
through
a
carbon
dividend,
trust
fund
to
the
american
taxpayers.
I
heard
carol
talk
about
a
gas
tax
this
morning.
This
is
a
gas
tax
on
all
fossil
fuels
that
is
universal
but
and
as
also
we,
it
addressed.
Danny's
concern
about
energy
poverty
because
of
the
dividend
people
who
are
in
the
low
quintiles
of
income
will
get
back
more
than
they
spend
as
a
result
of
this
carbon
tax.
K
My
our
reason
for
being
here
is:
we
believe
that
our
elected
officials
in
washington
need
to
hear
from
local
government
and
city
governments
in
order
to
move
this
forward.
We
now
have
80
co-sponsors
of
the
house.
We
hope
to
move
it
to
passage
after
the
next
presidential
and
senate
and
house
elections
this
november,
so
why
this
bill?
It's
because
putting
a
price
on
the
carbon
content
of
fossil
fuels
will
reduce
our
our
fossil
fuel.
K
Use
about
40
within
10
years
of
inception
is
very
non-intrusive
and
market-based
and
highly
efficient
in
getting
where
we
need
to
be
to
quote
the
post
and
courier.
Today
we
need
to
get
fossil
all
fossil
fuels
and
the
sooner
the
better-
and
this
is
a
bill
that
will
do
that-
and
I
am
we've
met
so
far
with
seven
council
members,
including
carol
and
dudley
and
kevin
here,
and
I'm
just
asking
to
see
seeking
your
support
and
talking
to
other
council
members
to
see.
K
P
Hi,
so
I'm
I
I
work
with
a
local
climate
group
called
the
charleston
climate
coalition
and
we've
been
doing
quite
a
bit
of
work
with
the
center
for
climate
integrity.
So
I
was
really
excited
to
see
that
they
support
municipalities
falling
filing
lawsuits
against
the
fossil
fuel
industry.
So
I
was
really
excited
to
see
that
that's
a
move
that
charleston
has
decided
to
take.
We
also
do
a
lot
of
work
with
a
group
called
the
climate
mobilization
group
and
they
support
municipalities
declaring
climate
emergencies.
C
C
P
A
Any
final
word
from
any
committee
members.
Thank
you
all
again
for
your
service
being
with
us
today.
I
think
it's
apparent
how
much
effort
good
work,
katie
and
mark
and
others
have
been
putting
into
this.
As
I
said
earlier
in
the
meeting,
the
many
distractions
in
2020
they've
just
continued
on
this
work,
I'm
very
pleased
and
proud
of
them
christine.
Thanks
for
your
work
and
report,
your
medical
district
and
steward
your
direct
help
and
involvement
inventory.