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St. Julian Devine Community Center Smokestack Task Force Meeting 1/6/21
B
Go
okay
well,
well,
welcome
everyone
to
the
smokestack
commission
task
force
for
our
january
13th,
20,
maybe
2021
meeting.
I
guess
to
let
me
first
off
start
by
calling
roll
here.
I
think
we
have
we
have
on
my
screen.
I
have
ken
granada
myself,
william
applegate
john
masalan,
marie
de
chapo,
edmond
most
mayor
tecklenberg,
liz,
bailey,
latonya,
gamble
and
andrew
dixon.
Is
there
anyone
else
who's
who's
either
called
in
or
that
I'm
not
seeing
on
my
screen.
C
B
D
B
Since
our
last
meeting,
it
sounds
like
there's
not
any
additional
information
or
presentation
of
information,
and
mr
bennett
is
not
with
us
today,
but
so
really.
This
is
our
opportunity.
I
guess
to
do
a
follow-up
conversation
and
see
see
where
we
are
since
the
last
meeting,
and
I
really
had
to
open
the
floor
for
conversation
at
this
time.
D
E
I
will
continue
to
encourage
them
to
move
as
quickly
as
they
can,
but
you
know
this
is
important
for
them
to
be
precise
and
have
complete
drawings,
eventually
they'll
be
working
into
the
bidding
and
construction
contracting
will
be
made
public.
So
in
march
we
plan
on
bidding
these
documents
out
with
bringing
a
contract
to
council
now
currently
he's
doing
plans
for
the
entire
renovation,
so
the
removal
of
the
liner
and
then
the
structural
stability
and
then
the
repointing
work
and
then
the
new
covers
or
refurbished
covers.
E
On
top,
we
may
be
able
to
do
some
acceleration
in
that
march
and
april
time
frame
and
that's
what
we
do
in
capital
projects.
Is
we
try
to
look
at
the
the
the
sequence
of
schedule
of
how
long
it
needs
to
be
advertised
the
internal
review
process
and
when
it
actually
goes
to
council,
we
may
be
able
to
shave
some
time
off
in
there.
D
I
I
had
challenged
mr
chairman,
you
in
in
your
representation
of
the
foundation
and
john,
particularly
in
representation
of
the
preservation
society,
to
see
if
those
organizations
were
were
willing
and
able
to.
I
know,
they're
able
whether
they
were
willing
to
help
us
meet
the
financial
requirements
to
to
do
the
full
preservation.
So
I
don't
mean
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
do
you
all
have
any
feedback
from
from
your
groups
about
about
helping
pay?
For
this
thing.
A
B
That
well,
thank
you,
john
and
and
I'd
say.
The
report
that
that
I
have
has
probably
been
could
take
pretty
much
from
john's
it's
a
similar
approach,
which
is
that
sort
of
was
presented
or
discussed
in
the
last
meeting
just
from
the
timing
of
it.
Obviously,
the
stork
charleston
is
advocates
is
an
advocate
for
the
preservation
and
obviously
wants
to
help
in
any
way
shape
or
form
it's
possible
with
the
timing.
B
You
know
situation
not
unlike
the
city
and
a
lot
of
unknowns
and
obviously,
as
a
group,
it's
a
revenue
based
non-profit.
So
it's
you
know
been
a
very
hard
year,
and
so
you
know
there's
just
work
to
be
done.
I
think,
as
I
understand
it,
there's
been
conversations
and
obviously
the
historic
charleston
is
willing
to
put
to
put
it
together
a
campaign,
but
at
this
time
you
know.
Similarly,
I
think
that
the
goal
would
be
to
to
move
forward
to
pres
preserve
the
smoke.
B
B
B
As
a
recap
we
talked
about,
I
think
some
ideas
that
still
have
a
lot
of
possibility
that
range
from
a
potential
sale,
the
property
to
you-
know
some
private
sources
of
funding
that
that
you
know
may
already
exist
to
fundraising
efforts
that
could
be
made
into
you
know
any
additional
analysis
of
the
tiff,
or
you
know
that,
may
we
might
have
a
little
better
eye
on
as
this
year
develops
and
we
get
past
this
coveted
nightmare
that
we
find
ourselves
in.
So
is
there
any
what
councilwoman
der
chapo?
B
F
So
I
think
which
I
he
has
a
vested
interest,
obviously
in
this
tiff,
performing
well
and
wants
to
save
the
smoke
stacks.
In
addition,
so
I
think
he'll
be
very
aggressive
in
what
he
puts
forth
and
I
wanted
something
very
spelled
out
and
clear
in
writing
that
mayor
and
I
could
get
walk
through
and
in
this
group
as
well
and
figure
out
what
would
be
feasible
and
what
wouldn't-
and
I
think
I
guess
you
know,
as
kind
of
a
frustration
that
I'm
feeling
is.
F
Like
I
said,
maybe
it
will,
but
I'm
not
going
to
predict
the
future,
I'm
going
to
go
based
on
what
our
expectation
is
right
now
do
we
believe
we
can
come
up
with
the
50,
which
you
know
we
have
cost
estimates
out
there
and
if
we
go
based
on
that
and
we
just
take
half
you
know
if
we
say
it's,
you
know
1
to
1.5
million
roughly
in
there
do.
We
think
that's
feasible,
that
we
can
come
up
with
this.
F
F
Hopefully
it
comes
down,
but
again
I
don't
want
to
make
any
kind
of
expectations.
I
want
to
go
with
the
information
we
have
right
in
front
of
us
today
and
I
should
be
having
this
proposal
from
the
developer.
I
spoke
with
on
monday
within
the
next
couple
days
and
that'll
give
us
a
little
bit
more
driving
force,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
as
many
options
as
possible.
E
Right,
that's
the
short
answer
right
now
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
people
out
there
that
are
thinking
well.
We
could
do
this
for
a
lot
less
money
or
we
could
find
a
less
expensive
way
to
do
this
and
you
know
hearing
capital
projects.
We
have
to
look
at
worst
case
scenario,
because
if
we
budget
for
two
million
dollars,
we
put
it
out
to
bid-
and
it
comes
in
at
2.2
or
2.1-
we
can't
bring
a
contract
to
council.
The
project
is
not
funded
and
the
bids
will
expire
after
30
or
60
days.
E
So
we
lose
that
whole
exercise
of
going
through
a
public
bid
or
or
however,
whatever
the
process
is,
and
it
puts
us
in
a
bad
situation
then.
So,
when
we
put
our
budgets
together,
we're
thinking
worst
case
scenario.
So
when
that
bid
comes
in,
we
have
to
analyze
it
make
sure
that
that's
a
responsible
bid,
but
that
we're
covered
with
our
budget
and
there
are
going
to
be
a
lot
of
ancillary
costs
associated
with
this.
Everyone
keeps
thinking
about
the
construction
costs.
C
Okay,
so
what
I'm
trying
to
ascertain
is
what
this
committee
is
trying
to
raise
as
the
50.
Is
that
the
1.5,
or
is
that
the
2
million?
Because
you
don't
know
the
other
cause,
are
we
should
we
go
for
the
1.5,
or
should
we
go
for
2
million
even
from
you
know,
trying
as
far
as
fundraising?
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
understand.
D
Well,
based
on
what
councilmember
del
chapo
mentioned,
which
was
council's
charge
to
us,
I
think
the
goal
ought
to
be
a
million
and
a
half
you
know,
and
if
we
we,
if,
if
we
were
able
to
achieve
that,
I
I
feel
confident
that
that
council
would
would,
in
addition
to
the
700
they've,
got
put
up
the
other
part
of
their
half
to
make
it
happen.
Don't
council,
member
mitchell
and
del
chapo
would
would
you
all
read
it
the
same
way.
F
G
And
that's
what
I
that's
the
same
thing
I
would
do
because
I
would
even
you
know,
push
my
colleagues
to
to
come
up
with
remainder
to
make
up
the
1.5,
because
most
of
the
time
they're
going
to
really
gear
everything
to
me.
Since
you
know
I
represent
the
district,
so
I
would
push
them
to
even
combat
the
up
to
make
the
additional
money
to
come
up
with
the
1.5,
and
I
would
talk
with
them
individually.
G
A
Them
and,
and
if
I
can
I'll
I'll
try
to
address
mostly
councilwoman
del
chapo's
comments
and
again
not
sure
it'll,
be
a
fully
satisfying
response,
but
I'll
try
to
be
as
candid
and
straightforward
as
I
can
at
the
preservation
society.
As
I
said,
the
the
staff
is
excited
about
the
project
and
and
fully
supportive
of
saving
these
and
in
the
community's
effort
and
desire
to
do
so.
Ours
is
the
same
and
from
a
timing
standpoint.
What
we
don't
want
to
do
is
write
a
check.
A
We
can't
cash
and
tell
you
we
can
raise
all
this
money
without
really
having
any
feedback
from
our
constituency,
and
you
know
you
know
we
are
willing
to
do
what
we
can
to
help.
But
from
a
timing
standpoint
the
first
substantive
meeting
that
I
was
in
was
the
one
about
30
days
ago,
which
was
right
before
the
holidays
and
and
so
again,
while
we're
supportive
and
we
want
to
help
and
we'll
do
our
best
to
help.
If,
if
you
ask
me,
can
the
preservation
society
commit
to
raising
500
to
750
000?
A
Right
now,
I
would
say
candidly.
I
can't
make
that
commitment,
because
I
just
do
not
know,
I
think
for
us
we
really
have
to
to
you
know
talk
with
you
know
you
and
william
and
councilman
mitchell
and
and
the
others
in
the
community
in
our
own
constituency
to
get
a
better
feel
for
that,
and
and
that's
not
a
no,
but
it
it
also
is
not
a
yes
right
now.
It's
just
the
timing
has
not
permitted
us
to
do
that.
D
A
B
And
I
I
might
just
suggest
to
I
mean
again
and
it's
not
I.
I
appreciate
the
timing
and
I
think
we,
you
know
there'd
be
some
decisions
or
recommendations.
We
could
go
ahead
and
make,
I
know
consistent
with
the
council's
desires,
and
hopefully
you
know
in
the
consensus
we
have
here
so
far,
but
you
know
one
issue
is
being
discussed
and
and
councilwoman
that
you
know
that
you
raised
his
potential
interest.
You
know
involvement
by
you
know
private
developer.
B
B
So
you
know
we
know
that
we're
going
to
have
a
large
challenge
if
the
task
at
hand
for
this
panel
right
today
is
to
raise
extensive
amount
of
money
are
we
do
we
think
as
a
community
as
a
team,
we
can
probably
figure
this
out
over
time
I'd.
You
know
I'd
like
to
be
optimistic
too.
I
think
is
important
and
I
think
the
community
seems
behind
it.
B
Can
we
commit
to
that
today?
I
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that's
probably
something
we
could
do
today,
but
we
also
are
still
exploring
options
and
I
think
again,
one
of
those
being
whether
there
are
some
tax
incentives
and
other
other
deals
that
could
go
down.
That
might
help
one
rid
the
city
of
this
responsibility
and
give
us
a
remedy
that
we're
looking
for
so
is
that
does
that
make
sense,
councilwoman.
D
F
D
D
H
H
Could
we
possibly
in
raising
funds,
consider
you
know
I've
seen
organizations
that
would
be
laying
a
brick
sidewalk
or
something
of
that
nature?
Is
there
a
way
to
possibly
put
some
type
of
plate
to
give
the
name
of
whatever
organizations
that
get
involved
to
say
that
they
gave
if
they
reach
a
goal
of
saying
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
towards
it?
D
Yeah,
that's
a
good
thought
and-
and
I
think
william
and
john
I
don't
mean
to
pick
on
y'all-
I
really
view
a
fundraising
effort
to
be
community-wide,
but
but
but
hopefully,
kind
of
led
and
sponsored
by
y'all,
but
I
mean
I.
I
would
like
to
thank
latonya
and
deborah
that
folks
in
the
neighborhood
would
like
to
buy
a
brick
or
donate,
and
you
know
we
do
a
gofundme
page.
D
You
know
it's
amazing
how
many
people
will
give
to
almost
anything
these
days,
if
you
just
put
it
out
there
and-
and
we
got
a
little
story
to
tell
that's
nice-
that
I
think
some
would
attract
some
some
some
donors-
I
you
know
it
at
least
to
start
with,
as
as
councilmember
del
chapo
is,
is
kind
of
trying
to
reach
for
here.
It's
just
a
commitment
on
all
of
our
part
that
yeah
we're
going
to
somehow
raise
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
to
make
this
happen.
A
And-
and
at
least
for
me,
I
was-
I
tried
to
speak
for
william.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
don't
I
don't
feel
singled
out
in
the
least
and
and,
as
I
said,
my
the
folks,
I've
talked
with
are
excited
about
it
and
willing
to
help.
But
but
at
this
point
to
give
you
a
specific
commitment,
that's
where
I
kind
of
draw
up
short,
because
you
know
frankly,
we
need
a
little
more
time
to
figure
that
part
out
of
it.
G
So
someone
is
going
to
go
laughing
or
something
is
going
to
go
lacking
when
we
pull
that
money
from
somebody
else
also-
and
so
that's
why
we
look
at
even
public
private
relationship
on
a
lot
of
different
things.
You
know
even
in
the
city,
because
that's
what
we
have
to
do
now,
the
way
things
stands
even
with
budget-wise
and
everything
else,
because
this
pandemic
came
and
hit
everyone
hard.
G
So
these
are
people
that
we
would
have
to
cut
and
doing
certain
things,
but
another
eight
hundred
and
something
thousand
dollars
that
we
have
to
pull
from
somewhere
else.
We
don't
have
to
cut
someone
cut
something
to
even
get
that
amount
of
money
to
make
up
the
1.5,
so
everyone's
going
to
be
hurting
a
little
bit
to
even
get
this
done.
H
D
Now,
well
that
that's
another
aspect
of
this
as
time
is
of
the
essence,
because
we
want
to
try
to
get
the
stacks
safer
before
the
height
of
hurricane
season
later
this
year
and
it's
already
2021,
and
but
I
I
mean
the
way
edmund
explained
it.
Our
capital
project
works,
went
by
by
the
time
we
get
counsel,
to
approve
a
contract
where
we're
making
a
financial
commitment
to
pay.
F
F
If
you
donate
x
amount
you
get
this.
If
you
donate
x
amount
you
get
this,
you
know,
I
know
y'all's
groups,
have
you
know,
I
don't
know
you
got
tote
bags
or
whatever
you
know
I
mean
you
know
to.
If
we
kind
of
get
the
ball
rolling
and
people
see
that
there's
a
push
behind
this
and
then
it's
it
takes
a
little
bit
of
this
pressure
of
you
know
for
hcf
and
preservation
society
to
have
like
a
a
real,
formal
capital
campaign.
F
It's
a
link
that
can
be
distributed
around
can
go
in
y'all's
newsletters
can
go
on
your
social
media.
You
know
things
like
that.
You
know,
I
don't
think
the
1.5
million
is
gonna.
Come
from
that
I'm
not
I'm.
I
can
be
pollyanna,
but
I
I'm
not.
You
know
that
out
there
is
that
something
that
those
three
groups
could
work
on
and
and
come
together
on
and
start
generating.
Some
of
that
interest.
B
C
A
Yeah
and-
and
I
I
our
group
is
the
same-
I
think
we
would
certainly
love
to
partner
with
you
councilman
mitchell,
miss
anderson
as
gamble,
anybody
to
to
roll
this
thing
out
and
and
try
to
get
some
interest
going
in
it,
and
we,
as
the
mayor
said,
we
do
have
some
infrastructure
out
there.
You
know
we're
ready,
so
we
don't
we're
not
starting
from
zero.
F
G
F
You
know
you're,
you
know
you're
you're,
feeling
a
part
of
something,
and
you
know
you
at
least
get
something
from
that
and
and
build
momentum
that
way,
and
we
hope
that
something
large
you
know
something
larger
comes
along
a
developer
or
whatever
it
is,
and
and
and
that
kind
of
makes
it
for
the
remainder
or
you
know,
then
this
money
that's
been
raised
goes
into
something
else
at
the
community
center.
You
know
if
we're
able
to
take
care
of
the
smoke
stacks
completely.
F
Maybe
this
money
goes
towards
something
else
to
do
at
the
community
center
in
that
or
in
the
east
side
community.
You
know,
I
don't
know
how
that
all
shakes
out,
but
I
mean,
like
I
said
you
know,
that's
just
something
I
keep
talking
about
with
people
and
that
is
very
noted
is
the
groups.
This
is
drawing
together
for
a
common
purpose.
In
a
way
that
I
don't,
I
don't
think
we
very
much
see.
F
B
H
Because
it's
going
to
take
that
in
order
to
raise
that
kind
of
money,
you
have
to
put
forth
several
efforts.
Well,
I
shouldn't
say
you
have
to,
but
you
should.
I
think
we
should
and
and
it's
something
that
you
just
move
quickly.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
time.
We
could
even
do
something
via
television
station.
You
remember
the
old.
Well,
I
shouldn't
say
old
time,
because
I'm
only
about
29
years
of
age,
but
anyway,
remember
I'm
just
kidding,
remember
the
telethons
that
we
would
have
as
as
kids
and
they
would
have
those
telethons.
H
You
could
even
do
something
like
that.
If
we
get
one
of
the
television
stations
who
will
support
us
and
back
these
efforts,
you'd
be
amazed
because
you're
right
councilwoman,
when
you
get
people
excited
about
something,
it
is
amazing.
What
happens?
We
can
have
a
gofundme
page,
we
could
sell
the
bricks.
I
mean
there
are
several
ideas
that
we
can
do
and
I
suggest
that
we
consider
doing
several
of
them,
not
just
one.
You
know
several
that
will
come
together
in
coordination
and
just
put
it
out
there
and
then
let's
see
what
magically
happens
latonya.
C
I
think
all
those
are
good
ideas
and
we
should
get
started
right
away,
but
we
do
need
to
know
the
timeline
and
maybe
set
forth
a
goal.
Obviously
you
know
our
neighborhood
association
isn't
going
to
raise
a
whole
lot
of
money,
but
we
certainly
are
willing
to
add
our
hand
in
there
and
do
the
best
that
we
can.
D
Make
make
a
commitment,
because
I
mean,
even
with
with
somebody,
giving
twenty
five
dollars
to
have
their
name
on
a
brick
or
fifty
dollars,
or
something
and
and
you
get
community
buy-in,
particularly
around
the
neighborhood.
I
mean
everybody
came
to
the
meetings
saying
they
want
to
keep
them
right,
and
so
so
I
I
I
think,
y'all
are
on
to
something
here,
I'll
I'll
commit
personally
a
thousand
dollars,
william
and
and
john
and
latonya.
You
all
get
a
account
set
up
and
let's
start
raising
some
money.
A
Well
and
mr
chairman,
I
don't
want
to
preempt
any
dialogue,
but
but
would
it
be
appropriate
for
me
to
make
like
a
motion
for
us
to
consider
to
to
kind
of
consolidate,
I
guess
or
or
put
our
report
together
to
counsel
and
and
if
so,
I'd
be
glad
to
try
to
be
the
person
everybody
hates,
which
is
the
sum
up.
Guy.
B
John
we'd
appreciate
that
I
think
we've
had
you
know
good
talk,
consensus,
you
know
and
and
consensus
really
from
the
last
meeting
into
this
meeting
and
have
some
ideas
that
we're
generating.
So
I
think
it's
appropriate,
based
on
all
we've
heard,
to
put
something
out
there.
That
would
help
us
towards
a
recommendation
that,
obviously,
that
the
council
is
anxiously
awaiting.
E
E
Yeah
there's
one
thing
I
wanted
to
kind
of
recap
here,
so
you
know.
The
reason
why
we're
all
together
here
is:
is
the
safety
driven
aspect
of
this
project,
but
also
the
preservation
of
it,
which
is
so.
What
I'm
hearing
today
and
I'm
trying
to
be
very
independent
from
from
this
commission
and
be
more
of
an
advisor,
is
I'm
hearing.
E
So
we
do
have
funding
right
now,
city
funding
that
could
fund
that
part
of
the
project,
so
craig
could
continue
to
do
his
documents.
You
all
continue
to
have
some
time.
I
don't
know
how
this
works
with
the
recommendation,
the
city
council,
but
if,
if
we
do
not
come
up
with
as
a
group
with
the
money
at
the
end
of
this
process,
we
can
still
address
the
safety
factor
come
april.
Then.
H
G
A
B
A
A
Try
to
coordinate
or
convene
a
group
to
fundraise
to
to
raise
enough
money
to
to
complete
the
preservation
of
the
of
the
stacks
and
that
we
reconvene
this
task
force
for
the
purpose
of
getting
further
information
about
the
project
costs,
not
just
the
construction
costs,
but
the
full
project
costs
and
and
further
reporting
on
fundraising
efforts
and
and
to
see
how
successful
we
are
when
we
actually
contact
people
and
those
funding
sources.
Sound
like
either
a
combination
of
the
tiff
funds,
community
contributions
and
perhaps
a
private
partnership
or
private
sale
of
the
stacks.
A
I
don't
know
if
that's
too
rambling,
but
those
are
all
my
notes
about
what
we
talk
about,
and
I
can
send
somebody
an
email
with
that.
If,
if
that
would
help,
so
I
would
move
that
we
report
that
to
the
council,
save
them
study,
taking
down
the
liners
first
and
paying
for
that
with
the
funds
that
are
available,
get
a
real
cost
on
the
preservation
community
groups
and
the
preservation
groups
get
together
and
figure
out
a
fundraising
plan
and
that
we
reconvene
this
task
force
to
look
at
how
much
it's
going
to
cost.
H
And
I
just
have
one
question:
this
is
deborah
again.
I
I
heard
you
mentioned
a
possible
private
sale.
If
a
private
sale
is
done
it
would
this
be
a
sale
in
which
all
of
the
money
is
raised
and
the
money
is
coming
from.
The
city
will
go
into
the
project
and
the
person
buying.
It
buys
it
for
a
small
amount
of
money,
or
will
it
be
a
private
sale
in
which
it
will
be
sold
for
an
amount
that
will
give
monies
back
to
the
city
and
money's
back
to
the
organizations
that
raise
the
money.
B
Deborah,
as
I
understand
you
know,
the
some
of
the
ideas
around
that
would
be
that
a
developer
might
come
in
and
purchase
this
asset
with
the
intent
of
doing
the
renovation
itself,
and
they
would
do
that
for
their
own
sort
of
tax
incentive
benefits
and
other
things
like
that.
So
it
would,
it
would
rid
the
city
of
this
obligation.
I
think
in
that's
the
idea
of
it
and
so
there.
Therefore,
we
would
then
no
longer
have
that
responsibility
of
coming
up
with
the
funds.
D
D
You
know
for
for
that
interest
and
unless
they're
just
charitable
the
one
thing
I
would
caution
us
all
about,
because
I
I
think
I
know
who
the
developer
is
coming,
who
who
that
is
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
just
move
money
out
of
one
pocket
of
the
city
and
put
it
in
another.
So
if,
if
it's
some
situation
where
he
owes
the
city
money,
you
know
that
is
accounted
for
as
parking
revenue
or
some
other
kind
of
revenue.
D
We're
just
fooling
ourselves.
If
we're
we're
saying.
Oh
okay,
now
all
of
a
sudden
we're
gonna
say
that
parking
revenue
is
now
revenue
for
the
smokestack
preservation
and
we
found
the
money
because
we
were
getting
that
money
already.
It's
already
part
of
our
budget.
You
follow
me
so
anyway,
we'll
see
what
he
comes
back
with,
but
it
could
be
at
least
the
tax
credit
part
of
it
could
be
significant.
It
could
be
25
of
the
project.
Costs
were
all
I
know.
So,
let's
wait
and
see
what
happens.
D
I
do
want
to
ask
ken
granada
a
question
in
the
thought
of
doing
this.
Bifurcated
or
you
know,
phased
approach
is
it.
I
know
you
would
have
to
inspect
the
stacks
after
the
line
is
removed
and
all,
but
is
there
even
a
good
possibility
that
once
the
liner
is
removed,
that
you
would
feel
as
our
building
official
that
the
the
immediate
threat
is
gone
and-
and
you
know
we
wouldn't
have
to
have
an
evacuation
plan
all
like
that?
I
So
I
think
we
mentioned
it
to
craig
last
time
at
the
last
meeting
and
he
you
know
we
talked
kind
of
talked
about
a
cost
and,
and
he
mentioned
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
an
additional
cost
to
to
remobilize,
and
you
know
I
don't
know
what
that
really
is,
but
craig
did
did
say
that,
yes,
I
mean,
we've
reduced
it
quite
a
bit,
because
that
is
the
the
true
threat
here
on
on
the
stacks.
You
know
obviously
the
follow
through
for
the
second
part
or
the
second
phasing.
I
B
B
We
have
unanimous
support
for
the
preservation
of
the
stacks
that
we
would
recommend
that
they
bifurcate
the
bid
and
begin
a
process
of
removing
the
inner
liners
and
that
the
the
task
force
and
members
and
members
of
community
get
together
and
create
a
fun
fundraising
scheme.
To
begin.
You
know,
raising
funds
for
the
preservation
of
the
stacks.
D
B
B
A
Feel
good
that
could
be
successful
in
in
in
in
the
motion.
I
would
certainly
accept
if
this
is
proper
procedure,
an
amendment
that,
before
the
part
about
looking
at
fundraising
and
ways
to
fund
it,
that
we
include
the
word
you
know
promptly
or
you
know,
without
with
all
deliberate
haste
or
or
whatever
I
mean,
I,
I
don't
think,
there's
any
any
attention
by
my
group
to
sit
around
and
wait
on
it.
F
F
A
B
C
B
C
B
C
B
A
A
H
F
A
H
Tell
you
why
I
say
this
and
I
know
it's
me-
it's
probably
just
me,
but
I
don't
believe
in
letting
a
lot
of
that
moss
grow.
It's
like
once.
We
make
a
decision
if
we
could
come
together
and
look
at
it
and
get
it
started.
At
least
we
will
have
something
constructively
moving,
as
we
consider
other
things.
A
The
only
question
that
I
would
ask-
and
I
would
have
to
get
asked
for
some
guidance
from
the
city
folks
here:
can
we
actually
do
something
before
city
council
receives
our
recommendation?
Would
we
be
perceived
as
kind
of
jumping
the
council
if
we
actually
act
before
they
do,
or
could
we
go
ahead
and
start
doing
something.