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City of Charleston Ways and Means 12/1/2020
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B
D
D
Yes,
yes,
thank
you.
The
december
1st
ways
and
means
committee
is
now
called
to
order
I'll
call
in
councilman
member
brady
for
our
invitation.
B
Number
two
move
for
approval
november:
10th
minutes.
B
B
D
B
C
Oh,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
as
I
sent
an
email
out
to
my
fellow
colleagues,
I've
been
working
on
our
budget,
our
my
proposed
budget
to
you
since
last
week's
comments
and
indicated
that
I
would
bring
forward
to
you
an
amendment
to
my
own
budget
here
at
first
reading.
C
So
that's
what
I
would
like
to
present
to
you
very
briefly:
it's
a
different
approach.
I
must
admit,
even
though,
after
many
months
of
work
and
terrific
work
by
staff
and
the
support
of
the
ad
hoc
budget
committee,
you
know
when
we
brought
had
our
workshop
recently
or
a
recent
meeting
and
went
over
the
thing
I
was
listening
to
comments
being
made
by
by
our
other
council
members
and
and
citizens,
and
so
it's
always
good.
C
This
is
why
diversity
is
you
kind
of
get
the
opportunity
to
look
at
things
from
a
different
way,
so
a
little
different
approach
here
with
this
amendment
to
the
budget.
So
we
talked
about
the
hopeful
possibility
of
getting
of
some
federal
relief
last
week
and
that
if
we
were
lucky
enough
and
blessed
enough
to
get
that
that
we
would
apply
those
funds
to
to
the
los
t,
local
options,
sales
tax
credit
that
we
were
asking
to
use
to
help
fund
the
budget.
C
But
instead,
after
our
discussions,
I
took
the
approach
of
thinking
about
things
that
we
could
cut
from
the
budget
and
restore
them
in
the
event
we're
blessed
to
get
some
relief
from
government
rather
than
looking
to
our
taxpayers.
For
that,
so
amy's
got
a
little
powerpoint
that
she
can
run
through.
But
essentially
we
have
reduction
in
expenses
of
about
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
and
a
comparable
amendment
to
number
eight.
Our
revenue
budget
as
well.
The
net
effect
will
be
to
remove
any
reliance
whatsoever
on
local
option
sales
tax
credit.
C
Our
citizens
would
get
full
100
of
every
available
penny
that
they
can
get
from
the
local
option:
sales
tax
to
apply
to
their
property
tax
and,
in
addition,
we
would
reduce
the
millage
by
one
mill
that
we
had
requested.
So
we
would
fully
restore
the
loss.
We
would
reduce
the
millage
by
one
mill.
We
would
cut
some
items
from
the
budget
which
we'll
go
over
again
briefly
with
you,
but
those
items
would
be
restored
in
the
eventuality
which
I
I
think
is
very
positive.
C
Given
the
upcoming
administration
that
we
will
get
some
direct
federal
leave
so
amy,
could
you
share
your
powerpoint
and
maybe
run
through
this
very
briefly.
H
Amendment
to
the
expenditure
ordinance,
a
reduction
of
3.4
million
dollars
in
expenditures,
and
they
it
is
the
following:
reducing
the
transfer
to
the
drainage
fund
from
franchise
fees
for
450
000,
the
transfer
to
affordable
housing
from
franchise
fees
for
250
000.
H
The
daniel
island
rec
center
opening
up
july
1st,
the
wl
stephens
pool
opening
july
1st
reducing
overtime
by
one
million
dollars.
A
10
cut
to
applicable
expenditures,
a
reduction
in
the
high
priority
items
that
spreadsheet
that
we
sent
out
and
the
reduction
of
professional
and
contractual
services
for
a
total
of
3.4
million.
H
H
Facilities,
the
daniel
island
rec
center
opening
july
1st
would
lose
a
savings
of
309
000
and
the
wl
stevens
pool
it's
in
need
of
repairs
and
enhancements
to
improve
the
air
quality
in
the
pool
area.
So
we
anticipate
that
opening
july
1st,
so
the
pool
being
closed
will
cut
costs
by
105,
almost
106
thousand
dollars.
H
H
10
percent
cuts
to
various
object
codes.
We
had
gone
over
a
spreadsheet
of
all
the
operating
budget
by
object
code
and
there's
that
one
column
that
had
four
million
dollars
worth
of
expenses
that
we
could
look
at
so
we're
cutting
10
of
that
that's
400
and
8
000.
H
Professional
and
contractual
services-
these
were
the
items
that
were
cut
so
financial
advisor
that
we've
been
trying
to
put
in
the
budget.
For
the
last
I
don't
know
three
or
four
years
performance
improvement
assessments,
there's
some
really
small
dollar
items.
H
The
audit
implementation
for
the
police
department
cut
by
50
000,
the
illumination
project
by
20
000
burning
leaf.
Normally
it's
for
re-entry
service
for
24,
we're
going
to
cut
that
back
for
35
000
savings,
and
then
we
had
60
thousand
dollars
for
abandoned
boat
removal,
so
we're
cutting
by
30
000
for
a
total
of
233
000.
C
I
would
just
add
on
this
slide
that
we're
leaving
we're
leaving
some
money
for
all
of
these
contract
services
and
professional
services.
So
we're
not
severing
ties
with
with
our
our
relationship,
but
we're
we're
basically
reducing
them
temporarily
and
we
hope
to
restore
them
in
the
future.
H
And
then
for
the
revenues,
it's
obviously
the
same
amount,
the
sales,
the
local
option,
sales
tax-
that
was
the
50
for
4.1
million
dollars.
The
reduction
of
one
mill
to
keep
it
at
two
mills
is
1.6
million.
H
There's
also
a
two
percent
business
license
fee:
that's
transferred
into
the
drainage
fund
that
we
will
keep
in
the
in
the
general
fund
of
six
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
additional
fund
balance,
because
we
had
said
before,
we'd
use
five
point:
two
million
dollars.
I
said
we
could
use
up
to
six
million.
So
that's
the
additional
amount
of
fund
balance
we
can
use,
and
then
we
have
an
additional
contribution
contribution
from
cws
that
both
the
mayor
and
councilmember
waring
had
spoke
of
they.
They
were
able
to
get
that
done.
C
So
so
I
want
to
give
big
kudos
to
councilmember
wearing
on
this
one
y'all.
You
know
we
came
to
you.
We
told
you.
We
got
them
to
agree
to
sell
a
property
and
split
the
money
with
us,
but
since
it
hadn't
happened
yet,
according
to
accounting
principles,
we
weren't
able
to
count
the
revenue.
Yet
so
we
went
back.
C
Councilman
waring
went
back
to
the
cdu
cws
management
and
board
and
got
them
to
agree
just
to
go
ahead
and
and
forward
us
the
the
a
million
dollars
as
part
of
our
fee
from
them
for
for
2021,
and
they
voted
on
that
just
yesterday
and
approved
it.
So
we
can
now
add
it
to
our
budget.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
J
Well,
let
me
let
me
add
in
here,
mr
mayor,
you
were
just
equally
as
hard
as
I
did
on
that
and
but
I
think
all
you
all
need
to
know
that
they
realize
it's
a
relationship
we
join
at
the
hip.
They
want
to
see
us
do
well
just
like
when
they
come
and
have
their
bonds
approved,
and
we
celebrate
them
for
their
fiscal
management.
J
They
want
the
same
thing
for
us
as
well
and
as
a
matter
of
fact,
after
this
meeting
and
sometime
I'm
sure
before
the
turn
of
the
year,
we'll
be
talking
about
some
other
found
monies
as
a
result
of
maybe
a
more
effective
billing
system
that
we
eventually
go
to.
So
all
of
you
all
know
the
personalities
over
there
just
like
we
do
and
those
relationships
mattered
really
mattered
when
we
needed
it
most.
So.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
for
your
involvement
as
well.
H
So
this
is
basically
what
what
it
would
look
like:
the
202.
The
revenues
go
down
to
199.5
million
and
expenditures
down
to
203.8
million,
there's
still
a
deficit
of
4.2,
which
is
covered
by
the
enterprise
fund
surplus.
H
H
And
then
the
millage
history
just
to
show
you
with
with
this
change,
because
we
had
looked
at
it
before
that
millage
for
charleston
county
is
65.1
and
75.1
for
berkeley
county.
That's
with
a
full
local
option.
Sales
tax,
credit.
J
Well,
I
do
have
one
question:
amy:
can
you
touch
on
how
on
those
bills,
where
would
the
taxpayers
be
able
to
see
the
lost
revenue
being
credited
when
they
do
receive
the
2021
tax
bill.
H
H
J
That
loss
revenue
is
a
difficult
subject
to
comprehend,
but
I
think
we
need
to
as
we
go
into
the
year
and
tax
bills
begin
to
come
out.
You
know
in
october
october
of
next
year
and
november
of
next
year
we
need
to
remind
the
citizens
that
that
minus
is
because
we're
one
of
the
only
municipalities,
certainly
only
major
municipality
in
the
region-
north
charleston,
mob
players
of
charleston
that
return
100
of
the
local
option,
sales
tax
back
to
the
citizens
for
municipal
tax
reduction.
E
B
E
K
E
Mitchell
you're
accepting
the
amendment.
Yes,.
B
C
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
amy.
I
just
had
a
a
question
had
there
been,
I
didn't
hear
nor
see
in
that
particular
presentation.
Was
there
any
modeling
on
what
a
staff
salary
reduction
would
look
like
in
order
to
make
up
for
the
two
mills?
What
would
that
look
like
across
the
board.
H
K
Thank
you
chair,
so
I
guess
to
piggyback
on
councilman
brady's
question:
would
it
not
be
possible
to
have
a
combination,
a
one
mill
and
then
offset
it
with
the
staff
reductions?
Would
that
not
equal
the
the
deficit
number
that
we
need
to
get
to?
Was
that
thought
through,
or
was
that
considered,
amy
or
mayor.
C
Well
I'll
I'd
like
to
respond
whether
it
was
considered-
and
it
certainly
was-
and
the
will
of
counsel
it's
possible,
but
I
I
would
make
the
plea
to
my
colleagues
here
on
council
that
we,
our
employees,
have
really
pulled
their
weight
this
year.
We
have
asked
them
not
to
hire
other
employees
due
to
a
hiring
freeze.
That's
now
been,
in
effect
for
almost
a
year
we're
projecting
that
to
extend
all
the
way
through
2021.
C
C
They
have
served
the
public,
ably
and
well,
and
and
really
beyond
the
call
of
duty
in
in
light
of
being
exposed
to
the
coronavirus
in
this
pandemic
year,
and
we
did
ask
them
to
look
at
all
the
budgets
and
cut
overtime
for
this
coming
year
by
a
million
dollars
and-
and
I
believe
it's
the
the
reasonable,
the
right
and
respectful
thing
to
our
employees
to
to
maintain
their
existing
salary.
D
Hey
mr
mayor,
if,
if
I'm
at
that,
they're
they're
also
not
going
to
get
any
increases,
we're
not
going
to
do
the
increase
for
the
15
an
hour
as
well,
aren't
we
no.
D
Right,
I
mean
that's,
that's
another
burden
that
staff
is
carrying.
I
really
think,
as
we
look
at
our
staffing
and
how
they
deliver,
particularly
with
freezes
staff
shortages
and
some
of
the
many
things
that
you
mentioned
mayor.
I
think
it
would
be
piling
on
and
given
the
circumstances
that
that
they
have
worked
under
over
the
last
year,
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
disservice.
Councilwoman
jackson,
thank
you.
G
I
just
want
to
associate
myself
with
the
mayor's
comments
in
your
account
comments
chairman.
I
I
can't
say
it
any
better
that
I
I
feel,
like
the
staff
have
poured
themselves
out
in
uncertain
times
and
we
are
asking
a
lot
of
sacrifice
based
on
the
fact
that
they
won't
have
new
colleagues
to
spread
out
their
responsibilities.
G
Even
though
the
responsibilities
increased,
we
haven't
seen
the
census
results
yet,
but
we
have
more
citizens
to
serve,
and
I
don't
know
about
you
all,
but
you
know
I
enjoy
getting
the
suggestions
and
the
and
the
questions
and
the
critiques
from
my
constituents
and
those
haven't
slowed
down
during
covet.
They
might
have
even
picked
up
a
little
bit
because
everyone's
at
home,
looking
at
their
ditches,
filling
up
and
their
trash
not
being
picked
up
on
the
different
days,
we've
changed,
and
so
I
I
just
feel
like
I.
D
Okay,
council,
member
griffin.
D
I'm
sorry,
member
of
pell
councilman.
L
Harry
can
go
first
if
he
wants.
Yes,.
M
Okay,
I'll
keep
my
comments
short
and
sweet,
no
matter
what
happens
tonight,
no
matter
what
the
vote
is
like
I
said
previously
in
our
last
workshop
I'll
say
it
again:
I'm
going
to
donate
my
next
year's
salary
to
help,
and
I
put
that
in
the
email
when
I
sent
the
expenditures
that
I
would
cut,
I
didn't
see
a
lot
of
them
make
it
into
the
proposal,
but
I
just
wanted
to
do
what
I
said
I
would
do
and
and
give
you
in
you
know
my
my
way
of
how
I
would
do
it.
M
But
besides
that
point,
we
have
141
000,
plus
members
that
live
in
this
city
and
they've
all
sacrificed
that
time,
a
lot
more
than
we
have
as
a
city
by
saying
that
not
being
able
to
hire
more
people
or
not
getting
a
bonus
this
year
is
it
is
a
cut.
I'm
telling
you
guys.
That
is
a
really
wrong
way.
To
put
this
thing:
we're
talking
about
businesses
all
over
the
city
that
have
shut
down
we're
talking
about
unemployment,
like
we
hadn't
seen
in
years.
You
know
the
sacrifices
that
we've
made
now
and
I
get
it.
M
We've
all
put
a
lot
of
effort
into
this,
and
amy
is
the
best
cfo
in
this
country.
She's
worked
harder
than
any
any
cfo
of
any
private
or
public
business.
I
mean
honestly,
I
am
so
impressed
by
her
and
how
she's
handled
herself
through
this
her
department
has
worked
amazingly
amazingly
hard,
but
at
the
same
time,
regardless
of
that
all
the
work
that
we've
put
in,
we
just
have
to
remember
how
our
citizens
are
going
to
view
this
they're,
not
watching
all
of
these
videos.
They
haven't
sat
in
all
the
budget
workshops.
M
All
they're
going
to
see
is
a
tax
increase,
and
so
how
we
word
it
and
how
we
go
about
our
business
and
just
remember
nothing
is
a
given.
We
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
get
federal
funding
and
we
certainly
don't
know
when
this
virus
is
going
to
end.
So
we
could
very
well
be
in
this
shape
next
year
or
even
worse.
M
So
we
just
have
to
make
sure
if
we're
not
willing
to
make
cuts
this
year.
Are
we
going
to
be
willing
to
make
cuts
next
year?
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
don't
know
in
this
position.
We're
in
is
obviously
never
been
seen
before.
So
there's
no
right
answer,
unfortunately,
because
I
just
feel
like
we
haven't
done
enough.
M
I'm
gonna
vote
no
tonight
on
this
on
this
general
fund,
but
I
promise
you.
I
appreciate
you,
mr
mayor,
for
putting
in
the
extra
effort
over
the
holiday
weekend
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
not
use
the
local
option
sales
tax.
We
can
at
least
say
that
we're
not
doing
that
for
the
first
time.
So
that's
a
big
step,
but
I'm
sure
that
if
we
really
looked,
you
know
hard,
we
could
have
probably
found
that
3.2
million
to
not
put
the
burden
back
on
our
taxpayers.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
L
Thank
you.
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
just
want
to
applaud
the
mayor
amy,
my
colleagues
on
council
for
answering
the
call
and
going
back
to
the
budget
looking
for
the
specifics,
finding
the
specifics
and
delivering
a
budget
today
that
is
far
superior
to
the
one
we
looked
at
the
last
time.
We
all
got
together
and
you
know
property
taxes
can
be
a
little
abstract
and
complex,
to
say
the
least,
and
I
just
want
to
point
out
some
specifics
about
how
the
law
works
with
respect
to
a
tangible
example.
L
So
I
happen
to
have
my
property
tax
bill
right
here
I
live
in
burns
downs.
My
house
is
assessed
at
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
My
lost
credit,
my
municipal
loss
credit
this
year
was
almost
300
okay.
So
when
we
compare
preserving
that
three
hundred
dollar
credit
to
the
twenty
four
dollars
a
year
or
thirty,
three
dollars
a
year,
we
just
looked
at.
L
We
got
we
gotta
put
all
these
numbers
and
all
these
concepts
in
the
context,
I'm
not
happy
about
any
tax
increase,
but
let's
pause
and
recognize
the
substantial
improvement
of
this
budget
from
the
one
we
looked
at
previously.
Preserving
the
100
loss.
Credit
is
a
major
major
victory
and
special
shout
out
to
council
member
wearing
for
grow
indoor,
water,
utility,
charleston
water
systems
and
finding
a
million
dollars
that
that's
that's
fantastic,
that's
how
we
got
here.
We
got
here
through
a
combination
of
a
lot
of
people's
efforts.
L
I
saw
some
aspects
of
my
proposal
in
the
in
the
presentation
today.
I
saw
some
aspects
of
other
council
members
proposals
today,
and
this
is
how
the
process
is
supposed
to
work.
I'm
very
proud
of
the
process
y'all.
I
think
we
may
have
some
more
time
between
now
and
final
reading,
to
maybe
dig
a
little
bit
deeper,
look
at
it
again
and
who
knows
what
can
happen,
but
I
think
that
you
know:
let's,
let's
recognize
that
taking
the
loss
off
the
table
is
a
major
major,
major
victory.
L
That
pales
in
comparison
to
a
potential
two
mil
increase
again,
not
happy
not
thrilled
about
the
two
mill
increase,
but
it's
it's
apples
and
oranges
to
compare
that
to
the
loss.
Last
thing
I'll
say
is
again
just
a
reminder:
the
salary
cuts
are
to
police
fire
and
public
works
after
the
year
that
those
folks
have
had.
L
I
I
was
in
the
streets
this
summer
for
some
very
difficult
days
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
I've
seen
our
police
officers
sweating
in
100
degree
heat
in
riot
gear
in
the
city
of
charleston
this
year
to
tell
those
folks
that
are
already
making
forty
fifty
thousand
sixty
thousand
dollars
a
year,
you're
getting
your
pay
cut
in
2021.
After
all,
we've
asked
out
of
these
folks.
L
I'm
sorry
they're,
not
the
same
as
any
other
worker
they're
not
and
I'll.
Be
I'm
happy
to
say
that
they're
not
the
same
as
any
other
worker
in
the
economy.
They
are
the
first
responders
remember
after
9
11
and
after
all,
these
tragedies
we've
had
around
the
country
and
around
the
world.
Our
first
responders
perform
a
special
and
unique
job
in
our
society.
L
They're
they're
they're
more
important
than
lawyers
they're
more
important
than
a
lot
of
other
folks
in
our
in
our
community,
and
I
mean
everybody's
important
but
they're
special,
and
I
think
that
when
it
comes
time
to
talking
about
24
a
year
more
for
most
homeowners
or
our
police
and
fire
budgets
and
salaries,
I
think
that's
the
stark
choice
that
we
have
and
I'm
sorry
I'll
leave
it
at
this
and
turn
off
the
mic.
M
L
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
unfortunately,
I
got
booted
off
for
some
reason
that
some
part
of
the
early
discussions
with
this,
but
I
did
pick
up
on
the
last
part
of
the
mayor's
comments
and
then
the
comments
I
heard
from
several
of
my
colleagues
concerning
this
number
one.
We
are
a
city
government,
we're
not
a
business,
and
we
can
we.
We
try
to
run
our
government
as
efficiently
as
we
possibly
can
and
effectively
as
we
possibly
can
because
we're
dealing
with
public
funds.
A
It's
not
our
money,
it's
the
money
of
the
people
and
we
are
stewards
of
that
money
and
we
have
to
be
very
diligent
with
how
we
handle
public
funds.
If,
if
for
some
way
that
I
was
the
desire
of
the
world
or
in
charge
of
making
ultimate
decisions,
I
wouldn't
get
rid
of
property
taxes
altogether.
I
hate
them.
I
think
property
taxes
are
unfair
to
those
who
own
property.
I
own
a
good
bet
of
our
property
in
charleston
county,
and
this
tax
increase
is
two
million
increase.
A
A
I
have
served
in
a
public
sector.
I
was
a
federal
prosecutor
for
almost
nine
plus
years
and
I
lived
through
the
period
of
time
in
which,
during
the
the
bush
administration,
the
government
had
a
shutdown
and
we
were
furloughed.
A
I
can
tell
you
from
a
personal
standpoint
what
that
meant
to
me
and
what
it
meant
to
my
family.
When
I
was
furloughed,
I
didn't
get
any
money.
I
had
a
mortgage
I
had
to
make.
I
had
children
who
I
had
to
feed
and
through
generosity
I
was
able
to
make
up
that
loss.
A
I
had
a
little
bit
of
money
in
savings
at
the
time,
but
I
couldn't
go
on
to
find
another
job
on
a
temporary
basis.
I
didn't
have
an
ultimate
source
of
income
to
have
and
I
was
a
public
servant.
I
was
doing
the
the
work
of
the
people
of
the
united
states
of
america
and
I
was
getting
paid
less
and
I
wouldn't
get
paid.
If
I
was
in
the
private
sector,
and-
and
I
took
that
job
because
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
it
was,
it
was
a
stable
job.
A
A
Now
you
try
telling
that
to
these
men
and
women
of
our
city,
who
are
living
through
a
pandemic,
and
you
tell
them
that
we're
gonna
cut
your
pay
and
you
tell
them
that
we
may
furlough
you
are
you
telling
we
may
fire
you
for
a
job?
Well
done,
that's
not
how
you
run
government,
that's
not
fair
to
them,
because
those
men
and
women
have
gone
out
and
stood
post
in
the
worst
possible
conditions
that
we've
seen
in
my
lifetime
and
I
suspect,
for
a
lot
of
people's
lifetimes
as
well.
A
I
just
can't
do
that
in
good
conscience.
We
have
a
choice
to
make
either
either
between
a
a
raise
in
property
taxes
which
I
hate.
I
will
tell
you
that
I
want
to
be
heard
very
clearly.
I
hate
property
taxes.
I
hate
raising
property
taxes.
The
absolute
last
resort,
there's
a
choice
between
that
and
a
cut
in
services
and
cut
in
personnel,
and
we
had
to
make
a
decision-
and
this
is
I
hate-
to
use
this
term
and
we've
kind
of
bounced
around
it's
a
lesser
of
two
years.
A
A
You
know
we're
one
of
the
few
municipalities
in
the
state
and
gives
back
a
hundred
percent
of
that
local
option
sales
tax
I
have
every
year
I've
been
on
council
when
suggestions
came
up
about
a
local
option,
sales
tax
money-
I
fought
it
and
we
we
have
stayed
true
to
our
word.
Even
now
looks
like
we
can
say
through
the
word.
We
give
the
community
back
a
hundred
percent
of
that
local
option
sales
act.
It
has
a
tremendous
impact,
particularly
for
those
folks
who
have
either
non-residential
property.
A
Those
who
have
other
commercial,
related
rental
property
actually
have
a
huge
impact
on
on
them,
not
having
that
money
taken
away
from
them.
So
I
I
applaud
my
colleague
councilmember
you.
You
have
a
big
head
before
the
end
of
the
night.
That's
what
we're
wearing
for
the
world
animal
parade.
You
really
just
step
up
to
the
plate.
I
really
do
appreciate
the
insight
that
you
had
on
this
and
and
the
mayor
and
for
amy
and
his
staff.
I.
A
A
This
is
going
to
have
a
huge
impact
on
on
them
and
that's
something
we
need
to
take
into
consideration
as
well,
and
I
and
I've
asked
both
of
them
just
to
you
know,
just
hold
tight
on
that
watch
that
over
time
pay
as
closely
as
you
possibly
can,
let's
see
where
we
are
after
three
months.
Let's
see
what
we
are
after
six
months
on
the
overtime
pay,
but
we're
taking
what
we
are.
We
are,
in
fact
cutting
back
on
some
of
their
salary
with
this
overtime
pay.
A
Anyhow
by
by
doing
that,
I
wanted
to
mention
that
I
did
have
a
very
good
conversation
with
steve
curry
about
that.
Earlier
this
morning,
and
he
brought
that
to
my
attention
that
it
is
going
to
be
a
negative
impact
on
on
his
men
and
women
in
that
department.
That's
something
we
need
to
consider.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
welcome
to
the
meeting
I
was
ready
to
take
over
oh.
I
know
you
were
a
bit
prepared,
so
almost
everything
that
I
had
to
say
about
this
has
been
said
by
various
students,
observant
councilmembers,
mr
mayor.
Thank
you.
I
think
what
you
presented
tonight
is
a
good
start
towards
what
would
be
an
ending,
really
good
budget
and
also
a
good
start
on
the
challenges
that
we're
going
to
have
going
forward
because
tonight
and
what
we
vote
on
for
first
reading
is
not
the
end
of
anything.
N
It's
the
beginning
of
the
challenges
we're
going
to
have
not
just
this
year,
but
in
the
years
coming
forward,
because
the
way
we
build
our
budget
is
through
property
taxes,
which
you
now
know
to
be
stable
and
increasing.
Some
business
license
fees
which
are
retrospective,
and
we
know
the
business
license.
N
Fees
will
be
down
in
2020
and
likely
in
2021,
as
we
recover
out
of
this,
certainly
in
the
retail
sector,
through
the
king
street
corridor
and
out
in
west
ashley,
to
the
consider
all
of
those
areas
and
our
parking
enterprise
fees
and
then,
even
though
it
doesn't
go
directly
into
our
general
fund,
hospitality
and
tourism
dollars,
which
we
use
to
fill
in
the
gaps.
That
is
the
industry.
N
That
worldwide
has
been
hit
the
hardest
of
any
industry
by
the
challenges
that
we've
had
over
the
last
six
months
and
we
in
charleston
as
a
number
one
tourist
destination
in
the
universe,
have
felt
it
more
than
anybody
and
we're
going
to
it's
going
to
take
a
good
bit
of
time
for
us
to
build
back
up
from
that,
and
we
are
as
a
government
or
partners
with
those
with
those
businesses.
And
so
you
know
I.
I
applaud
you
for
recognizing
that
we
should
leave
the
local
option.
N
Sales
tax
credit
where
it
is,
we've
always
done
it.
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
advanced
to
call
this
a
heroic
move.
I
mean
it's
something
that
we
should
be
doing
as
we
go
forward,
but
I
do
think
as
we
look
forward.
Mr
mayor,
we've
got
to
start
thinking
today
about
2021,
2022
and
2023
and
and
think
about
what
our
budgets
are
going
to
look
like
and
how
we're
going
to
build
them.
I
mean
councilmember
waring
and
this
and
the
charleston
water
system
good
for
them.
N
I
mean
it's
great
that
they've,
given
us
a
million
dollars,
that's
a
one-time
hit
for
us.
We're
not
going
to
have
it
next
year,
and
so
you
know,
are
we
going
to
be
debating
lost
and
property
taxes
every
single
year?
So
we've
got
two
more
weeks
you
in
one
week
with
the
thanksgiving
in
between
and
lots
of
family
activities.
I'm
sure
came
up
with
a
cut
to
this
budget
that
reduced
the
tax
burden
on
the
citizens
that
we
originally
had
planned
through
this
budgeting
process
by
two
thirds.
N
We've
got
another
two
weeks
before
final
reading.
There
is
no
reason
why
we
can't
look
across
the
board
and
see
if
there's
things
out
there.
N
So
let's
keep
working.
Let's
not
quit
tonight.
Let's
think
about
what
happens
in
the
next
two
weeks.
We've
got
till
the
end
of
december
to
pass
a
full
budget.
We've
got
another
city
council
meeting.
So
thank
you
for
doing
what
you
did.
I
I
applaud
the
council
members
who
pointed
up
that
we
could
do
better.
I
think
everybody
has
participated
in
this
and
we
are
mayor.
This
is
ultimately
on
you.
N
B
Yes,
I
like
to
applaud
everything
that
I
heard
tonight,
even
from
the
mayor
and
councilman
waring
and
others,
and
the
suggestion
that
they
made
and
with
the
mayor
of
comp
with
this
new
amended
budget.
I
said
sometime,
we
forget
that
we
as
community
have
to
keep
this
city
operating.
B
I
know
we
look
at
businesses
and
businesses
are
fine.
I
like
to
see
businesses
here,
but
if
an
all
fails,
the
communities
still
have
to
take
over
period.
You
know
I
I
don't
understand.
Some
people
might
not
remember
city
of
charleston.
The
way
city
of
charleston
was
like.
I
was
when
I
growing
up
and
stuff
in
the
city
of
charleston,
so
we
we
have
to
be.
We
have
to
look
at
it
very
seriously
of
what
the
city
of
charleston
is
all
about,
and
just
stop
saying
that.
B
Oh,
if
you
cut
this,
you
cut
that
all
employees
here
works
hard.
I
can
tell
you
I'd
be
out
there
to,
like.
I
tell
you
one
or
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
seeing
garbage
trucks
going
in
at
10
o'clock
a
lot
of
us
on
city
council
right
here,
don't
want
to
be
a
sanitation
worker
and
work
with
that
little
bit
of
money
that
we
are
paying
our
employees.
B
They
don't
get
paid
a
whole
lot
of
money
and
we
talk
about
cutting
them
now,
and
we
have
so
many
people
out
here
now
that
don't
have
jobs
already
so
we're
going
to
add.
We
want
to
add
to
that
and
putting
more
people
out
in
the
street
to
be
homeless
and
unemployed
come
on
people
better
than
that
we
are
the
city
of
charleston.
We
are
much
better
than
that.
B
Look
at
what's
colombia
and
greenville
and
spartanburg
is
going
through
look
at
their
tax
base
and
look
what
they're,
paying
so
far
as
taxes
concern
their
community
they're
being
hit
very
hard
up
there
because
most
of
the
things
in
their
area
as
far
as
their
schools
and
so
far
their
churches.
All
those
places
are
tax
exempt.
So
they
don't
have
all
the
businesses
that
we
have
in
the
city
of
charleston
that
we
can
pull
money
from.
So
we
here
in
the
city
of
charleston,
we
know
what
we
have
to
do.
B
It's
not
a
good
thing.
It's
not
a
good
thing.
We
have
to
nobody
here
on
city
council.
My
colleagues
want
to
raise
taxes.
I
don't
want
to
raise
taxes.
I
don't
want
to
see
my
taxes
go
up.
I
have
a
small
little
amount
of
money
coming
in
at
per
month,
so
I
know
what
you
have
to
do,
but
we
have
to
make
the
tough
decisions
to
keep
this
city
operating
and
hope
and
pray
and
pray.
As
I
said
that
things
will
get
better
down
the
road.
That's
all
we
can
do
right
now.
B
We
can
kick
around
the
can
and
kick
it
down
the
road
and
say
this
and
say:
oh
you
can
cut
this
off.
We
can
look
back
at
this
hey.
It's
us,
that's
why
we
are
here
on
city
council
to
make
these
tough
decisions,
not
because
we
want
to,
but
this
is
this
is
what
we
have
to
do
right
now,
I'm
not
looking
at.
B
What's
going
to
happen
next
year,
which,
if
I'm
going
to
be
here
next
year,
I'm
here
in
ow
now
to
make
these
decisions,
that's
what
I
feel
is
going
to
be
betterment
for
everyone
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
do
the
best
we
can
of
what
we
have
to
work
with.
And
that's
what
I'm
saying
to
you
my
colleague.
This
is
what
we
have
to
work
with.
Okay,
we
have
until
september
of
next
year
to
turn
it
into
the
county
the
tax
base.
Maybe
something
else
might
happen
during
that
time?
B
Something
else
might
happen,
but
we
don't
know
but
right
now
we
have
to
do
something
right
now
to
put
it
in
place
at
this
time
and
that's
all
we
are
doing
now.
So
we
need
to
stop
it.
You
know
it's
applied
me
to
see
this
and
I've
been
on
this
council
a
long
time.
I
think
I'm
the
oldest
one
on
council
so
far
serving
on
council
since
going
through
all
these
budget
every
year,
every
year,
every
year,
seeing
what
we
have
to
do.
Even
we
raise
taxes
one
time
to
give
the
employees
raise.
B
We
did
it
one
time
and
it
was
always
on
the
time
that
when
people
have
to
run
for
re-election
but
doesn't
matter
that
doesn't
matter
to
me,
it's
what
we
need
to
do
what's
right
when
I
pray
on
things-
and
I
believe
and
I
believe
in
prayer-
that's
one
thing
with
me:
I
don't
fool
around
with
that.
I
don't
say
it
and
play
it
with
it.
I
mean
what
I
say
when
I,
when
I
sneal
down
and
pray
from
the
most
high
to
god
or
whomever
you
want
to
call
them.
B
D
I
appreciate
all
that
has
been
said
by
my
colleagues.
I
think
it's
a
council
member
waring,
you
on
mute.
J
Thank
you.
I
just
want
note
to
all
my
colleagues
and
my
desk
mate
councilman
seeking
this
is
not
a
one-off.
This
is
money
from
cpw
is
a
longer
term.
This
has
always
been
a
handshake
agreement
if
you
will
and
and
the
mayor
and
myself,
along
with
you
all
working
on
a
actual
mou
and
writing
for
22,
23
and
years
of
years
for
going
forward.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
This
isn't
a
one-off,
but
thanks.
D
I
K
K
F
D
J
K
D
N
O
D
O
L
P
Why
don't
I?
Why
don't
I
I
I
you
can't
call
to
vote
my
phone,
so
let
me
see
if
I.
O
P
E
Well,
I.
I
D
J
What
why
don't
excuse
me,
mr
jimmy,
why
don't
he
be
rick,
put
him
on
a
speakerphone
sure.
A
D
A
D
C
This
is
really
the
other
half
of
the
budget,
so
to
speak,
so
I
would
respectfully
say
that
the
amendment
I
presented
was
for
both
seven
and
eight
one
for
the
extended
design
and
one
for
the
revenue
side.
Okay,.
D
I
O
K
B
D
E
D
J
D
A
M
L
D
M
D
P
D
G
N
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I'm
sorry,
I
was
on
mute,
I'm
just
on
number
18
and
we
don't
have
to
do
it
now,
but
if
at
some
point
council
member
wearing
to
your
committee
or
can
someone
just
give
us
an
update
on
where
we
are
with
that
earhart
street
shaft
and
exactly
I
mean
between
funding
sources
and
the
projects
in
the
north
at
september?
Clark
I'd
just
like
to
know.
G
D
D
A
Sir
yeah
so
he's
a
nice
chairman,
the
committee
on
real
estate
yesterday
afternoon,
at
three
o'clock,
several
items
were
on
our
agenda.
The
first
item
item
a
dealt
with
a
property
swap
in
order
to
administer
the
construction
of
senior
affordable
housing.
Q
Yes,
sir
council
member
shade
and
members
of
council
what
you
have
before
you
is
an
exchange
agreement
between
the
city
of
charleston
and
america.
Street
ventures,
you
all
would
know
best.
The
humanities
foundation
they've
created
an
llc
for
this
development.
Q
We
are
doing
this
with
the
idea
or
with
the
I,
with
the
final
product
being
affordable
housing
produced
on
the
properties
that
the
city
owns
and
the
properties
that
the
city
would
secure
from
humanities
foundation
would
be
used
for
storm
water
management.
Q
Q
We
would
also
have
what
is
referred
to
a
right
of
first
offer
and
a
right
of
first
refusal
should
humanities
foundation
after
constructing
these
units,
decide
to
sell
it,
sell
the
property,
be
it
at
the
15
year
period
or
the
30-year
period.
That
is
also
a
contingency
that
is
outlined
in
the
contract.
The
city
would
buy
the
property
back
with
a
10
percent
reduction
in
cost.
Q
The
other
matters
related
to
this
contract
include
just
so
we're
totally
clear
the
exchange
of
five
parcels
from
humanities
foundation
for
two
parcels
owned
by
the
city.
I
would
remind
us
that
the
properties
owned
by
the
city
are
valued
slightly
higher
1.9.
A
I
I
think
you
got
you
hit
all
the
highlights.
The
shaw
johnson
and
she
called
me,
as
I
was
in
the
grocery
store
this
morning,
to
give
me
a
a
correction
or
one
thing,
because
this
is
going
to
be
a
a
for
win
proposition
for
the
city
and
for
our
citizens
in
the
community.
A
The
committee
voted
unanswered
to
approve
this.
The
foundation
is
going
to
do
the
construction
work
on
these
units
and
I,
I
think,
there's
78
units
that
are
going
to
be
constructed
with
this
project.
A
This
is
going
to
be
downtown
and,
quite
frankly,
the
question
came
up
as
to
what
the
city
was
going
to
be
able
to
do
with
the
property
it
currently
the
property
that
foundation
owns
we're.
Taking
that
back
over
it's
going
to
help
with
stormwater
mitigation.
A
There
were
some
questions
as
to
what
extent
that
was
going
to
look
like,
but
as
charles
johnson,
we
have
a
45-day
window
to
do
that.
So,
mr
chairman,
I
would
recommend
that
we
approve
a
item
a.
A
You
want
to
continue
with
my
reporter.
You
want
to
pay
these
one
at
a
time
and
c
on
our
agenda
I'll
take
together
this
deal
with
the
daniel
island
tennis
center.
This
is
a
proposal
to
make
some
amendments
to
the
lease
and
to
look
at
a
donation
agreement.
A
The
company
that
is
managing
the
airline
tennis
center
is
proposing
a
40
million
dollar
redo
on
our
city
property,
the
volvo
attendance
center,
the
city
per
the
contract
and
our
lease
agreement
has
a
three
million
dollar
obligation
to
make
some
changes
to
that.
Some
maintenance
work
on
stairwells
and
other
locations.
A
It's
not
defined
in
the
framework
of
that
agreement
when
we
were
obligated
for
the
three
million,
but
these
two
documents
together
would
require
that
the
city
pony
up
a
million
dollars
up
front.
The
two
million
dollars
that
would
be
spent
as
part
of
this
overall
renovation
project
to
include
the
city's
obligations
would
be
deferred
until
later.
Chip
mcqueen,
if
you're
on
the
call-
and
you
may
want
to
fill
in
a
couple
of
gaps
I
may
have
left
out,
but
I
think
that's
essentially
not
to
bolster
that
chip.
If
I
left
anything
out.
A
Are
you
still
with
us
I'm
here,
I'm
sorry
I
I
was
thinking
chip
on
my
mind
and
and
you
and
I
have
talked
about
this
extensively.
I
did
not
mean
to
include
you
so.
R
No
problem
that
I
think
you
covered
everything
you
know,
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone.
There
will
be
a
third
component
to
this
there's:
a
construction
management
agreement
between
the
city
and
charleston
tennis
llc,
where
the
city
will
delegate
the
authority
to
enter
into
the
construction
contracts
that
agreement,
we
will
be
bringing
to
you
at
the
next
meeting.
R
So
this
is
two
out
of
the
three
agreements
that
are
going
to
be
necessary
to
complete
this
deal
in
order
to
make
it
happen,
and
if
anyone
has
any
questions
specifically
about
the
documents,
I'm
happy
to
to
go
through
those,
but
I
also
wanted
to
offer
that
I
believe
isaac
gruber
is
on
the
phone
from
bmoc
capital.
In
case
you
have
any
questions
specifically
about
the
project.
A
Yes,
yeah
miss
councilman
jackson,.
G
Originally,
the
city
had
obligated
three
million
dollars
that
were
going
to
go
directly
into
the
actual
renovation
project,
but
because
of
the
circumstances
that
the
city
is
in
and
the
I
think
the
appreciation
of
our
stakeholder
partner
at
the
stadium
that
billion
dollars
is
actually
going
to
be
1
million
that
we
pay
now,
as
we
sign
the
agreement
that
will
go
into
the
renovation,
but
the
2
million
is
not
due
for
three
years
and
that
will
not
go
into
the
renovation.
G
It
will
stay
as
a
deferred
maintenance,
repairs,
capital
repairs,
sinking
fund.
So
that's
a
that's
a
real
benefit
to
the
city
that
we
already
have
a
little.
You
know
a
little
fund
that
we'll
be
able
to
use
down
the
road
for
repairs.
A
I
So
and
again,
just
to
kind
of
continue
the
conversation
it's
two
million
three
years
after
the
completion
of
the
renovation
and
just
I'm
sure
we
have
to
use
this
word
for
particular
reasons.
But
I
don't
it's
not
really
a
contribution.
I
I
For
this
to
be
done
so
just
a
little
bit
of
semantics
there
I
want
to
make
sure
that
are
clarified
and
it's
not
coming
out
of
our
general
fund.
So
this.
B
I
This
isn't
again
some
questions
that
have
been
raised
if
the
city's
in
such
dire
straits
and
you're
talking
about
raising
taxes,
this
is
from
accommodations
tax.
So
that's
a
totally
separate
bucket.
That's
not
tied
to
you
know,
conversations
that
we've
been
having
about
budget,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
public
understands
some
of
those
things
and
other
members
on
council
in
case
not
because
I
I
certainly
had
to
ask
a
lot
of
questions.
J
That
thank
you
very
good
point,
ms
del
choco,
in
that
this
does
not
come
from
property
tax
proceeds
that
comes
from
dollars
generated
from
tourism
dollars.
Also
as
part
of
this
agreement.
When
this
facility
is
operative,
there
will
be
a
one
dollar
ticket
fee
that
will
come
back
to
the
city
on
every
ticket
that's
sold
over
there.
J
That
would
come
back
for
capital
improvements
down
the
line,
so
we
don't
have
that
on
some
of
our
other
facilities
that
will
be
done
on
this
facility,
not
to
mention
the
private
sector
is
coming
in
with
almost
a
30
million
dollar
investment
into
that
facility.
So
again,
not
taxpayers
dollars.
So
it's
a
win-win-win
and
I'll
totally
support
this.
This
item-
I'm
certainly
not
in
favor
of
it.
A
And
in
the
the
filling
with
what
councilman
warren
just
mentioned,
colleagues,
the
there'll
be
a
higher
increased
capacity,
seating
capacity
for
events
not
just
for
the
tennis
but
for
other
type
of
social
events,
and
I
think
that
we
heard
that
the
amount
to
be
raised
would
be
an
additional
250
000
to
the
city.
With
that.
The
next
item
was
item
number
d.
A
Mr
benjamin,
if
you
were
online,
you
may
want
to
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
that
proposal
is
something
that
you've
been
working
on
for
a
number
of
years.
I
believe
keith,
if
you're
around.
S
Yes,
sir,
can
you
hear
me
yeah
good
evening,
council
yeah?
This
is
something
that
actually
began
even
before
my
time
and
just
a
special
thanks
to
a
lot
of
different
city
staff.
Mayor
made
a
number
of
calls,
but
also
partnership
with
sdot,
specifically
deputy
secretary
colvin,
and
also
the
director
of
right
of
way
mike
barnby.
S
We
now
have
a
lease
agreement
for
the
entirety
of
the
underpass
of
the
under
I-26
corridor
and
it's
something
we've
been
working
on
for
some
time
and
obviously
it's
going
to
really
open
up,
not
just
opportunities
for
parking,
as
that's
been
a
big
topic
of
conversation,
but
for
recreation
for
build
out
of
the
eventual
low
line
and
reconnecting
and
knitting
back
a
number
of
those
communities
that
were
bisected
by
that
piece
of
infrastructure.
S
Just
just
some
very
specifics
that
are
in
there
that
I
stated
during
the
real
estate
meeting,
but
just
want
to
be
very
clear.
One
is
there's
language
in
there
that
allows
exclusive
parking
specific
to
adjacent,
affordable
housing.
There's,
affordable
housing
property.
That's
going
to
be
developed
right
there
near
sumter.
S
That
will
be
able
to
be
one
of
the
first
beneficiaries
of
that
section.
There's
language,
that's
very
specific,
around
our
flexibility
around
design,
even
up
to
our
allowances
around
the
bridge,
piers
there's
language
in
there
that
allows
us
to
if
we
get
to
an
impasse
with
the
local
district
office
around
design
and
specifics
that
we
want
to
that,
we
can
go
directly
to
columbia
directly
to
the
deputy
secretary
of
engineering
to
hash
out
those
particular
issues
and
there's
also
language
in
there.
S
That
basically
allows
us
to
use
any
revenues
that
are
generated
from
that
lease
area
for
that
lease
area.
So
just
just
really
grateful
for
the
collaborative
effort
to
get
that
going.
Obviously,
with
you,
all's
approval,
both
within
committee
and
in
full
council,
we'll
then
submit
that
back
to
the
cdot
for
the
deputy
secretary's
signature.
A
By
the
way
for
your
work
on
that,
mr
benjamin,
thank
you
and
the
other
last
item
on
our
agenda.
Mr
chairman
was
the
approval
for
annexation
of
a
piece
of
property
2891
don
castro
drive
located.
K
A
Council
member
harry
griffin's
district
to
be
annexed
to
the
city
of
charleston.
That
also
was
approved
as
well
so
items
a
d
e
and
f
were
were
passed
unanimously
and,
like
I
said,
that's
a
b
and
c.
I
was
alone
vote
no
on
those
two,
that's
my
report,
but
they
did
pass
sir,
but
they.
D
C
I
could
have
caught
you
at
the
next
meeting
on
this.
I
did
want
to
just
make
a
comment
about
the
real
estate
committee
meeting
yesterday.
C
C
We
got
the
property
from
the
highway
department
along
the
old
cooper
river
bridge
about
15
years
ago,
and
what
we
passed
tonight
of
this
property
swap
sets
the
vision
for
the
completion
of
the
development
of
that
property
exclusively
pretty
much
for
affordable
housing
and
now
add
to
that
to
help
address
flooding
and
drainage
issues
in
that
part
of
the
city.
Secondly,
the
volvo
cup
agreement,
I
mean
we,
we
have
a
a
generous
family
willing
to
invest
40
million
dollars
in
one
of
our
city
properties.
K
C
A
big
economic
impact
to
our
city
and
our
region
when
hospitality,
it's
its
presence
here,
was
not
nearly
what
it
has
become
and
even
recently
the
the
annual
tournament
was
was
reviewed
to
have
a
35
million
dollar
economic
impact
for
our
city.
So
with
the
additional
investment
that
economic
impact
will
grow
and
then,
thirdly,
our
agreement
with
the
dot
to
expand
the
footprint
of
the
low
line,
which
will
become
a
transformative
part
for
the
mid
and
upper
part
of
our
peninsula
for
mobility
for
affordable
housing.
C
I
mean,
when
you
add
all
that
together
and
we
we
ran
through
it
in
an
hour
at
a
meeting
and
just
realize
that
the
thousands
of
hours
and
even
years
of
work
by
staff
to
make
some
of
these
dreams
a
reality.
I
I
just
think
it's
notable,
and
I
wanted
to
share
that.
Mr
chairman.
D
And
they're,
just
just
as
important
the
general
public
doesn't
know
the
story,
and
I
think
it
goes
back
to
what
the
councilman
waring
said
several
meetings
ago
I
mean
it'd
be
great
if
we
just
had
a
little
quick
press
release
or
something
out
on
some
of
this
stuff,
so
the
public
will
know
that
we
are
investing
in
affordability,
for
instance,
and
in
a
big
way.
D
So
somehow
we've
got
to
get
this
message
out,
because
I
don't
think
that
the
general
populace
clearly
understands
all
the
work
that
we're
doing
with
regard
to
affordability
across
the
board.
Just
just
had
to
say
that
mayor
again
emphasized.