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City of Charleston Committee on Ways and Means 9/8/2020
A
B
B
I
started
writing
you
a
note
after
our
department
head
meeting
this
morning,
I
had
to
go
and
have
air
put
in
one
of
my
tires
because
I
rolled
over
on
something
I
want
you
to
know
that
that
two
of
your
guys
were
at
the
shell
station.
They
were
perfect,
they
came
in
and
and
just
got
me
all
straightened
down.
B
D
F
A
C
A
C
A
A
Are
we
still
going
to
have-
and
I
think
I
raised
this
before-
and
you
might
answer-
are
we
still
going
to
have
funds
available
for
capacity
building
of
some
of
the
applicants
that
might
apply
for
these
dollars?
Because
I
know
that
ruth
miss
jordan
had
been
working
on
that
and
I
thought
that
she
had
done
a
supplement
to
the
application
to
include
a
separate
dollar
amount
for
capacity
building.
J
A
Second,
moved
and
properly
seconded
any
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
the
eyes
have
it
item
number
six
move
for
approval.
Second,
any
discussion,
as
we
talk
about
item
number
six
at
some
point
and
the
potential
savings
that
this
may
bring
at
some
point
mayor
and
council
members,
I'd
like
to
have
some
discussions
on
earmarking,
those
dollars
specifically
for
drainage
improvement
on
the
island,
more
specifically
the
womba
basin.
A
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
stop
talking
and
start
to.
Let
the
people
of
james
island
know
that
we're
serious
about
eradicating
the
problem.
Just
a
discussion
item
just
want
everybody
to
know
that
at
some
point
I
want
to
have
some
discussions
on
air
mocking
those
dollars
to
correct
some
of
the
flooding
problems
that
we
have
on
the
island.
All
in
favor
say:
hi
hi
any
opposes
the
eyes.
Have
it
item.
J
Number
seven
chairman:
if
I'm
a
yes
yeah,
because
I
don't
know
that
all
the
council
heard
about
the
potential
savings
from
this
refinance
that
we're
doing,
and
it
would
garner
exclusively
to
our
stormwater
efforts
and
stormwater
improvements
and
nothing
else.
But
we
believe
and
jeremy
cook
is
our
council
online,
but
we
believe
we'll
save
from
four
to
five
million
dollars
over
the
balance
of
of
the
bond
period.
That's
I
think
through
19
I
mean
20,
32
or
3..
J
A
But
that's
the
that's
the
discussion
for
down
the
road,
but
I
just
want
to
let
let
council
know
that
I'm
going
to
be
moving
forward
and
hopefully
with
the
support
of
the
other
councilman
members
from
the
island
to
try
to
get
some,
if
not
all,
of
those
owners
earmarked
specifically
for
island
projects.
Item
number
seven.
C
A
E
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
just
want
to
check.
I
know
that
there
are
some.
There
are
some
schools
within
the
city
limits
that
aren't
listed
on
there
in
the
west
ashland
area,
particularly
I'm
assuming.
If
we
don't
have
an
officer
there,
maybe
the
county
does,
I
think
that's
the
case
with
stone
park
elementary,
but
I
also-
and
I
know
I
brought
this
up
in
the
past-
that
we
do
have
a
middle
school.
L
We
are
still
in
that
partnership
with
charleston
county
sheriff's
office.
They
are
still
covering
some
of
those
schools
for
west
ashley,
the
ones
you
mentioned
there
orange
grove
charter
middle
school.
They
could
request
an
officer
if
they
would
like
the
discussions
were
that
they
didn't
feel
that
the
need
for
that
over
there.
M
L
Members
shortly
after
sandy
hook,
we
actually,
I
created
the
school
security
response
team.
I
was
the
first
supervisor
of
it
and
we
were
broken
up
into
clusters
to
proactively
patrol
schools,
both
public
schools
and
private
schools.
We
ended
up
actually
adopting
some
day
cares
and
those
types
of
things
at
churches
and
those
types
of
entities
that
wanted
extra
patrols
and
really
the
school
security
response
team,
which
we
still
have
concentrates
on
finding
those
weak
links
creating
those
extra
few
seconds
by
making
sure
that
doors
are
locked.
L
The
schools
are
following
their
own
protocols
and
those
types
of
things.
So,
but
we
understand
a
lot
of
people
appreciate
the
officers
being
assigned
individually
as
a
school
resource
officer.
We
just
figure.
We
can
get
a
lot
more
impact,
a
smaller
number
of
officers
to
cover
the
approximately.
I
think,
the
numbers
around
50-ish
schools
that
are
within
the
city's
jurisdiction.
L
So
we
use
that
school
security
response
team
to
have
well-trained,
prepared
teams
to
specifically
respond
to
a
critical
incident
at
a
school
and
then,
when
that
isn't
happening,
they're
patrolling
those
schools
just
to
make
sure
that
all
those
small
protocols
that
seem
mundane
like
don't,
keep
a
rock
near
your
back
door
to
prop
open
up
the
door
to
make
it
more
convenient
use
your
swipe
card.
Every
time
you
go
in
and
out
those
types
of
things
we're
just
helping
the
school
district.
L
I
really
focus
on
those
aspects
that
can
really
mitigate
a
critical
incident
there.
So
I
can
go
into
a
lot
more
detail
if
you'd
like,
but
that's
kind
of
overview
of
that
and
it's
different
than
a
school
resource
officer
which
is
actually
stationed
in
a
school
and
that's
where
they
are
all
the
time.
There's
more
of
a
mentoring
role
and
a
coaching
role
from
this
resource
officer
where
school
security
response
is
just
focused
on
school
security.
M
E
I
L
For
james
allen,
charter,
specifically,
we've
been
using
all
of
our
sros
in
this
kind
of,
like
unusual
circumstances,
to
help
the
schools
with
locating
some
some
children
that
man
I've
heard
from
for
a
while
and
just
assisting
the
administration
as
much
as
we
can
as
they
transition
into
this
new
period.
So
the
sro
at
james
allen
charter.
If
he's
not
helping
out
in
that
situation,
I'm
sure
they're
assisting
with
calls
and
those
types
of
things
on
james
island.
A
N
L
C
E
G
Chairman,
I
I'm
so
excited
about
this
project.
This
is
the
windermere
basin
study.
This
has
been
in
the
works
since
1984
the
year
I
was
born.
I
know
I
say
that
a
lot,
but
it
just
can't
go
stated
enough
how
long
this
area
has
been
in
need
of
a
comprehensive
storm
water
solution
and
to
your
point
earlier,
I'm
so
excited
we
can
devote
some
funding
from
the
bond
refinance
for
wamba
that'll
make
sure
the
five
million
dollars
we've
got
stored
away
for
the
the
infrastructure.
G
E
C
E
A
E
O
F
F
Maybe
by
chance
we
instead
demolition,
that
we
can
look
at
or
bringing
it
down
to
the
safety-ness
of
the
community
because
it
stays
in
bad
shape
and
I
would
hate
to
see
anyone
get
hurt
because
of
this
smokestack
falling
and
I
said
who's
going
to
be
liable
for
it.
If
it
happens,
if
the
storm
come
and
blow
it
because
it's
deteriorating
inside.
F
So
this
is
why
this
came
back
with
bringing
the
statue
down
to
a
certain
point
at
60
feet.
Maybe
mike
can
bring
it
down
to
40
feet
once
they
get
into
it
and
take
a
look
at
it,
but
that's
how
this
came
about
now.
When
I
look
at
when
I
look
at
things
I
look
at
for
the
purpose
of
the
community
of
safetyness
and
if
that
particular
building
said
fall,
a
lot
of
people
aren't
able
to
get
hurt
in
that
particular
area.
F
A
lot
of
people
are
talking
about
the
historical
factor,
the
present
basis
factor
of
it.
I
understand
all
of
that
too.
My
older
brother
I
was
talking
to
we
were.
He
said
we
were
living
around
there
back
in
the
back
in
the
40s
on
hanover
street
right
near
that
smoke
stack
back
during
that
time,
the
stack
was
really
used
to
burn
trash.
F
F
I
got
about
a
lot
of
calls
and
spoke
to
christopher
king
of
the
preservation
society,
but
I
explained
the
same
thing
to
him
the
same
way.
I
was
what
I'm
saying
to
you
all
now
and
he
said
well,
if
possibly,
if
we
can
get
the
money
and
comfort
the
money
will
that
help
save
the
smokestack
with
a
distance
of
135
feet
where
it
is
now
I
tell
them
I
can
tell
them.
F
So
I
haven't
heard
of
anyone
coming
to
the
table
with
any
money
yet
and
if
they
come
with
some
money,
they
have
to
come
with
some
money,
like
three
million
dollars
right
off
the
roof,
to
even
help
save
that
smoke
stack
with
the
of
136
feet
in
the
air
in
the
air.
So
I
haven't
heard
from
the
city
on
anyone
have
come
up
with
any
money.
F
D
D
A
F
A
C
A
I
mean
basically
that's
what
it
is
and
and
and
if
you
read
the
paper
you
know
folks
are
talking
about
the
kinds
of
things
that
make
our
city
unique
when
we
start
taking
things
down
like
the
smokestacks,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
getting
rid
of
some
of
the
uniqueness
of
the
city
and
we're
building
hotels
and
everything
else
with
with
no
kind
of
resemblance
to
what
happened.
Yesterday
I
mean
that's
the
argument
I
read
in
the
paper.
Anybody
read
it
a
little
differently
than
I,
but.
C
F
A
Jason,
just
anyone
else
have
questions.
Just
let
me
know
if
we
shorten
it,
the
base
gets
bigger
as
you
go
down,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
so
we
couldn't
just
simply
take
the
existing
cap
and
and
put
it
on
the
60-foot
structure.
We
would
have
to
rebuild
that
to
so
it's
not
as
simple
as
just
moving
it
down.
We'd
have
to
re.
We
would
have
to
rebuild
that
and
what
kind
of
cost
would
be
associated
with
that
kind
of.
D
So
the
item
before
you
right
now
is
the
professional
services
contract
with
bennett,
preservation
and
and
that
work
would
include
his
time
during
the
dismantling,
but
also
the
design
to
stabilize
the
the
remaining
fire,
brick
liner,
as
well
as
to
come
up
with
the
design
for
the
cap.
For
the
you
know.
Hopefully
we
can
reuse,
that's
there,
and
but
all
of
that
stuff
would
be
in
that
current
scope
of
work.
D
J
K
J
Admit
this
issue
became
more
on
the
front
burner.
Obviously
we
we
had
intended
all
along
to
quote
deal
with
the
smokestacks
as
part
of
the
st
julian
devine
center
renovation,
which
has
it's
it's
on
our.
It
was
also
on
our
agenda
there
at
19,
where
we
authorize
the
playground
equipment
as
part
of
this
three
million
dollar
project,
we're
preserving
and
restoring
and
improving
the
incinerator
building
itself,
which
is
very
functional
for
our
community.
J
J
J
So
it's
kind
of
a
dawning,
a
question
I
must
admit,
but
this
is
kind
of
the
way
I
compartmentalize
it
upon
council
member
mitchell's
suggestion.
Rather
than
like
the
engineer
and
the
building
official
said.
Maybe
we
could
save
part
of
it
and
still
have
that
historic
statement
of
what
was
there
before.
J
So
it
makes
the
top
half
of
the
smoke
stack
particularly
susceptible
to
to
failure.
So
so
that's
an
important
item.
The
second
thing
is
that
there
is
some
question
about
the
foundation
of
the
smoked
sacs
and
they
use
wooden
pilings
that
only
went
so
far
down
when
they
built
it
in
1930s
or
whenever
it
was,
and
so
they
didn't
use
the
80-foot
long
pilings
that
we
used
today
when
we
construct
something
that
tall.
J
If
you
keeping
public
safety
at
the
top
of
the
list
here,
it
would
be
a
safe
alternative
because
of
the
two
reasons
that
I
just
elucidated.
In
addition,
you
know
by
the
time
you
pass
these
things
two
things
tonight
and
then
we
haven't
repointed
the
brick
we
haven't
done
some
other
things.
My
guess
is
we'll
end
up
spending
about
750
000
total
to
to
shorten
them
in
half
to
keep
them
at
the
height
they
are.
J
In
addition
to
the
time
we
would
need
jason
mentioned,
probably
around
3
million
dollars
and
that's
not
really
taking
into
account
if
the
pilings
need
to
be
reinforced
or
redone,
which
could
add
substantially
to
the
project.
So
when
you
think
about
those
two
scenarios,
I
think
the
scenario
of
taking
it
away
completely
is
off
the
table.
You
think
about
those
two
scenarios
and
then
you
think
councilmember
waring
about
that
old
question.
J
What
happens
in
50
years
and
100
years
from
now
and,
admittedly,
if
you
brought
it
down
in
half,
you
still
would
not
have
the
the
the
ability
to
see
the
original
height
and
all
like
that.
But
but
I
believe
the
city
would
continue
to
have
a
substantial
liability
from
you
know
the
fear
of
of
a
failure
of
the
smokestacks
and
and
just
the
upkeep,
particularly
if
you
kept
them
at
the
full
height,
given
what
we
don't
know
about
the
foundation,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
all
that.
J
F
D
K
D
A
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
really
does
seem
like
I've.
You
know
solomon's
choice
after
listening
to
members
of
the
neighborhood
and
council
member
mitchell
and
obviously
the
the
strong
preservation
community
is
united
and
wanting
to
retain
the
full
height
of
the
of
the
smokestacks.
So
I
guess
I
I
have
two
questions.
M
If,
if
we
vote
yes
for
items
21
and
22
to
essentially
we
do
the
partial
demolition
and
get
to
the
60-foot
height
thereabouts.
Can
that
be
done
in
order
to
create
this
to
take
away
the
the
crisis
that
we're
we're
acting
precipitously
under
right?
Now
I
mean,
is
that
realistically
realistic
to
think
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
and
to
satisfy
our
our
conscience
about
protecting
the
30
properties
in
the
in
the
way?
M
M
I've
talked
I've
spoken
to
the
president
of
the
east
side,
neighborhood
association
and
a
few
long-standing
residents
who
had
you
know
ancestors
lived
in
the
neighborhood,
but
I'm
wondering
just
as
a
you
know,
newcomer
who
worked
in
the
preservation
field
with
the
national
trust
for
40
years
ago.
Are
we
making
anyone
happy
with
the
60
foot
decision,
because
that's
not
what
I'm
getting
from
the
preservationist.
F
Well,
I
don't
know
if
they
would
be
satisfied
or
not.
I
spoke
with
them
and
they
say
that
they
would
like
to
see
at
60
at
staying
at
the
present
height
135
feet.
But
to
me
I
believe,
I'm
going
to
do
something.
That's
going
to
feel
comfortable
in
my
conscience
that
I
don't
want
to
see
anyone
get
hurt
and
I'd
have
to
wear
that
on
my
conscience.
F
So
I
believe
that
when
I
came
to
this
compromise
of
not
tearing
the
statue
down
because
they
had
it
for
demolition
and
I'm
stopping
the
demolition
of
the
whole
statue
itself,
you
know
to
me
is
still
going
to
be
there.
It's
not
going
away
so
the
built
the
smoke
stack
will
still
be
there.
So
I
explained
that
to
them,
and
I
explained
my
situation
to
them.
I
explained
my
situation
at
the
neighborhood
at
the
neighborhood
council
to
the
president.
F
F
I
said
now
we
are
not
demolishing
the
whole
smoke
stack
like
they've,
been
saying
in
the
paper
and
the
post
report
that
is
going
to
be
demolished.
I
said
I
went
to
the
mayor
and
said:
look,
mr
mayor.
We
don't
need
to
demolish
this
whole
statute.
This
whole
smoke
snack.
Let's
see
how
we
can
preserve
it
and
save
and
save
the
smokes
at
least
part
of
it.
If
we
can,
by
bringing
it
down
to
a
level,
that's
going
to
be
safe
for
the
community
and
that's
how
this
came
about.
F
Maybe
they
might
go
up
in
so
you
can
break
down
40,
bring
it
down
40
feet
instead
of
60..
I
don't
know,
but
60
is
the
maximum.
They
said
bringing
it
down,
they
might
stop
it
at
40.,
so
it
still
will
be
higher
than
the
junior
divine
center,
which
is
there,
and
I
told
them.
I
said
a
lot
of
people
talking
about
preserving
and,
as
I
stated
to
you
my
brother,
then
we
lived
over
there
back
in
the
40s
annoying,
but
the
statue
I
knew
but
the
statue
long
years
ago.
F
You
know
back
in
the
40s
when
we,
when
I
was
born
over
there
in
1949,
when
I
was
living
over
there
in
49,
so
I
knew
about
the
statue.
I
knew
it,
but
the
people
wanted
to
preserve
it.
But
if
something
comes
to
the
point
that
it's
going
to
be
detrimental
to
individuals,
human
beings,
I
have
to
look
at
that
very
carefully,
because
I
don't
want
to
wear
that
on
my
conscience
and
they're
still
going
to
be,
there
they'll
still
be
able
to
see
the
the
smokes
back
there.
F
It's
not
going
to
be
able
to
see
it
as
high
as
it
was.
So
that's
why
I
came
at
conclusion,
and
I
explained
that
to
the
community.
I
explained
that
to
the
neighbor
association,
all
the
members
that
was
on
the
zoom
at
the
time
on
last
wednesday
and
that's
the
way
I
explained
to
them
the
same
way.
I'm
explaining
to
you
all
now.
P
M
No,
I
asked
you
questions
chairman.
My
first
question
was:
can
we
take
take
it
to
the
60-foot
height
in
time
to
avoid
the
hurricane
season,
which
is
the
reason
for
us
needing
to
make
this?
You
know
a
fast-paced
decision
based
on
the
building
inspector's
letter.
So
that's
a
question
to
the
capital
projects
team.
D
So
right
now
the
scaffolding
company
is
waiting
for
this
meeting
to
end
to
see
what
they're
supposed
to
do
contractor
is
planning
on
mobilizing
on
monday,
and
the
scaffolding
contractor
will
start
design
immediately.
If
this
is
this
tonight,
so
again
the
general
contractor
mobilize
monday
and
start
prepping
the
site
get
the
scaffolding
up
and
begin
work.
D
D
H
H
D
K
K
They
would
start
to
contain
the
site:
silk,
fencing
and
construction,
fencing
and
whatnot
on
monday
of
next
week,
and
then
they
would
start
erecting
the
the
scaffolding
shortly
thereafter.
It
will
take
about
a
week
and
a
half
to
get
all
that
scaffolding
up.
It
is
a
lot
they're
going
to
build
an
oval
basically
around,
both
of
them
with
a
lift
elevator
in
between.
So
that's
why
it's
going
to
take
a
week
and
a
half
immediately
thereafter,
they'll
start
disassembling.
K
H
So
if
I
can
follow
up
please,
mr
chairman,
just
so
I'm
clear,
though,
in
a
perfect
world
you're
looking
at
disassembling,
it's
going
to
take
60
days
and
it's
it's
not
just
one
course.
It's
two
because
you've
got
the
inner
lining
right.
So
all
that
has
to
come
hand
by
hand.
That's
assuming
no
thunderstorms
in
the
afternoon,
which
you'll
have
to
clear
the
scaffolding
every
day
hurricane
season
ends
in
what
60
days.
H
H
A
A
A
D
A
A
H
J
I
want
to
make
that
clean
point.
I
mean,
regardless
for
the
remainder
of
this
season.
If
we
have
a
big
storm
coming,
we're
gonna
have
to
evacuate,
get
a
bunch
of
hotel
rooms
and
and
put
those
folks
up
somewhere
and
that
that's
a
given.
So
you
still
get
back
to
what
I
was
trying
to
explain
before
you
get
the
stability
when
you
get
down
about
halfway
where
the
engineer
says
the
inner
and
the
outer
ring
are
supporting
each
other
and
connected
and
so
beyond
doing
the
full-blown
restoration
of
three
million
dollars.
J
Plus
you
really
don't
stabilize
it.
Unless
you
do
the
that
full
big
price
tag
restoration,
so
the
differential
is
about
two
and
a
quarter
million
and
about
a
year
and
a
half
versus
you
know
60
days,
and
so
it's
it's
up
to
council
to
make
a
decision
here.
I
think
it's
a
tough
decision,
but
you
know
we
we've
got
lots
of
other
things.
We
can
spend
money
on.
That's
for
sure
we
could
use
the
money
for
other
things.
J
I
think
about
the
the
the
long-term
safety
50
years
100
years
from
now
that
it's
it's.
I
personally
believe
it's
just
going
to
be
safer
to
bring
it
down
halfway,
based
upon
everything
that
the
engineers
told
me
personally
and
and
but
but
I'm
glad
to
go
with
the
will
of
council,
whatever
y'all
want
to
do.
O
O
O
K
So,
there's
a
couple
of
layers
of
work
that
we're
going
to
do
here
as
part
of
this
contract
they're
going
to
bring
down
the
masonry
to
that
elevation
that
we're
talking
about
and
it
may
be
higher.
The
engineer
is
going
to
be
out
there
constantly
assessing.
So
the
minimum
that
would
remain
is
60
feet,
but
it
may
be
closer
to
80
or
90
feet.
K
We
don't
know
until
the
contractor
comes
out
and
assesses
that
okay,
also
as
part
of
this
work,
there's
going
to
be
a
new
cap
or
new
cover,
that's
placed
on
top
of
it
now.
The
part
that's
missing
here
is
that
stabilization
of
the
inner
liner
to
the
outer
liner
and
the
engineer
has
some
ideas
on
how
to
do
that.
They
basically
are
going
to
essentially
bolt
it
with
spiral
locks
together.
They
could
potentially
grout
them
together.
K
There's
a
couple
different
ways,
but
he
hasn't
prepared
any
drawings
of
that
and
the
contractor
could
not
price
that,
which
is
why
that's
not
included
in
this
construction
contract
by
reducing
the
height
you're,
taking
away
that
that
potential
safety
hazard
of
it
breaking
in
half
during
a
high
wind
event,
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
engineer
pointed
out
to
me.
He
said
if
that
storm
that
hit
the
gulf
hit
us
these
smoke
stacks
would
be
down
right
now
already
and
we'd
be
dealing
with
cleanup
right
now.
K
He
also
said
in
89,
if
hugo
hit
further
to
the
south
of
here
instead
of
where
it
did,
they
would
have
went
down
in
that
event,
so
you
know
moving
forward
looking
forward.
What
do
we
have
to
do?
We
have
to
get
them
down
to
this
elevation
to
take
away
that
safety
concern,
then
we're
going
to
have
to
come
back
and
have
that
engineer,
prepare
the
drawings
that
they'll
have
to
come
back
in
and
secure
that
inner
liner
to
the
outer
shell,
brick.
I
I
D
I
That's
really
considerate
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
mean
those
of
us
that
are
on
public
safety
know
that
we
heard
shannon
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
a
little
while
ago,
and
so
I
mean
saying
that
we
don't
need
to
do
it
because
we're
in
the
middle
of
hurricane
season
and
the
hurricane
season
will
be
over
before
we
finish,
I
think,
is
a
mute
point,
because
there's
other
perils
that
could
cause
this.
E
K
K
K
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
His
his
russell
rosen
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
this.
He's
got
a
lot
of
expertise
with
historic
structures
and
he's
been
around
the
block,
and
you
know
I
don't
want
to
volunteer.
He
might
not
be
interested
in
it,
but
I
mean
he's
somebody
within
our
midst
and
in
our
community
that
we
could
certainly
tap
for
a
potential
second
opinion.
If
we
have
the
time
to
do
so,
which
it
sounds
like
we
we
may.
D
That's
okay,
based
on
the
timeline
that
we're
experiencing
right
now
and
when
the
engineer
when,
when
we
re-met
after
everything,
shut
down
we're
in
hurricane
season,
his
recommendation
was
to
make
this
happen
in
the
interest
of
public
safety.
So
we're
in
this
timeline
right
now,
where
you
know
we
have
not
reached
out
to
other
engineers
like
edmond
referenced.
D
N
N
I
think
we
need
to
take
some
sort
of
a
look
another
look
at
this
and
get
some
more
public
input.
I'm
not
prepared
to
vote
to
approve
this
demolition
tonight.
I
would
support
a
deferral
for
a
few
weeks,
but
I
don't
think
rushing
to
judgment
is
the
right
decision
on
this,
especially
with
all
of
the
emotion
that
has
been
shared
within
different
communities.
N
M
Well,
I
am
I'm
sort
of
leaning
in
that
direction
because
I
I
you
know
I.
I
really
appreciate
the
detail
that
mr
most
just
went
through
in
terms
of
the
actual
timeline.
That
would
be
the
best
case
of
you
know,
60
days
from
monday,
that's
the
middle
of
november,
so
we
really
are
rolling
the
dice
for
the
hurricane
and
and
yes,
we
could
have
a
seismic
event,
no
question
councilmember
sheila
and
you
know
the
people
who
keep
their
eye
out.
For
that.
M
M
That's
why
we
have
you
know
self
insurance,
liability,
god
forbid,
we'd
have
to
move
the
residents
out,
and
god
forbid,
they
would
return
and
see
damage
to
their
own
houses.
But
I
don't
see
how
we
protect
that
damage
in
this
short
season.
We
can
certainly
protect
the
people
by
helping
them
relocate,
giving
them
the
opportunity
to
be
safe
and
be
you
know
in
somewhere,
nice
that
we
can
facilitate,
and
that
is
going
to
cost
money.
M
O
Thank
you.
You
know
we
just
kind
of
as
a
as
a
council.
We
just
kind
of
fluff
it
off
to
safety
aspect
of
this.
The
moment
we've
got
a
playground
in
the
shadow
of
this
of
these
columns.
Something
falls
down.
One
brick
falls
down
in
the
head
of
the
kid
and,
and
god
forbid
something
peril
has
happened,
we're
going
to
wish.
We
we
acted.
O
We
if,
if
we
were
sure
that
we're
going
to
have
more
time,
then
I'd
be
right
along
with
you
guys.
As
far
as
the
height
of
the
smoke
stack,
you
know
we
preserve
because
of
historic
preservation,
and
I
agree
we
preserved
one
of
the
stanchions
from
the
ravenel
bridge,
but
we
we
didn't
keep
the
highest
one.
If
we
kept
the
highest
one
that
would
have
been
out
in
the
river
we
kept
one
of
the
lower
ones.
I
I
think
that
everybody
on
this
call
see
the
crack
on
the
inside.
A
O
Okay,
I
know
I
I'm
just
wondering
if
all
12
council
members
actually
saw
that
crack.
There
is
a
structural
problem
with
this
I
mean
this
isn't
something
being
contrived,
because
we
all
got
together
and
came
up
with
a
secret
because
we
want
to
take
the
smokestacks
down.
I
mean
it
is
a
structural
problem
that
poses
a
health
risk
to
the
community
around
it
and
we
kind
of
talking
like
well.
We
can
kick
this
can
down
the
road,
because
it's
really
not
a
a
structural
problem.
We've
got
time.
O
We've
got
60
days,
we
got
90
days,
we
might
have
another
year,
but
you
know
what
tomorrow
may
be
the
day
that
it
comes
down.
So
what
you
do
is
you
do
with
the
information
you
have
you
try
to
make
the
best
intelligent
decision
based
on
the
information
that
we
didn't
go
out
and
just
get
a
person
without
a
reputation
and
there's
no
doubt
about
it.
Mr
bennett
is
one
of
the
best
in
the
nation
at
what
he
does.
O
Currently,
on
the
african
museum,
extremely
involved
with
the
gear
yeah,
just
to
make
name
a
couple,
so
we
get
to
the
beat
we
get
to
kick
the
can
down
the
road,
but
eventually
decisions
have
to
be
made.
I
can
kind
of
compare
this
to
and
I
understand
the
preservation
is
wanting
it
to
keep
keep
it
where
it
is.
I
I
really
do
I
remember
when
they
went
to
fight
to
keep
one
of
the
supports
for
the
cooperative
bridge.
I
thought
why
would
you
do
that
now?
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
O
By
the
same
token,
the
history
of
what
that
used
to
be
should
not
be
eradicated.
I,
I
would
not
want
to
see
him
taken
down
all
the
way,
but
by
the
same
token,
the
60-foot
height
or
maybe
even
higher,
depending
on
the
stability
that
crack,
I
think,
is
the
way
we
should
go.
We
are
all
acting
like
we
have
time
and
that's
not
a
fact.
O
O
O
Animals,
restaurants,
this
is
a
very
popular
spot,
so
you
know.
If
I
would
make
a
decision,
I
would
vote
to
bring
it
down
to
the
60
feet
or
whatever
the
once
they
get
in
there
and
really
see
what
we
have
to
work
with.
I
think
when
you
got
people
at
risk,
you
make
a
decision
based
on
health
and
not
on.
I
hope
and
pray
we
get
no
time
and
it
doesn't
fall.
So
that's
where
I
am
on
this
one
I
I
will
actually.
I
would
want
to
go
with
the
suggestion.
A
A
A
We
did
go
to
russell
rosen
to
give
us
a
second
opinion
and
he
confirmed
bennett's
conclusions,
they're
pretty
much
they're
pretty
much
on
the
same
page
on
on
mother
manual.
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
the
same
on
the
smokestacks,
but
they
were
pretty
pretty
pretty
much
in
agreement.
We
cannot
be
in
there
the
50
miles
an
hour
when,
let
alone
a
hurricane
councilman
mitchell.
D
F
How
long
would
that
take
when
this
action
to
satisfy
some
of
the
residents
in
the
community
and
some
of
the
members
of
council,
because
my
things
stand
firm,
I'm
looking
at
safetyness
and
that's
my
biggest
issue
of
this
all
now,
if
I
have
to
get
up
for
that
I'll,
take
the
beating
for
that.
So
when
it
comes
to
safety
between
bricks
and
mortar
and
a
human
being,
I'm
going
with
human
being.
So
that's
that's
just
me,
you
know,
that's
that's
my
living!
That's
my
living
in
the
way
I
live.
F
O
O
B
Council
members,
council
member
seeking
has
his
hand
up
and
mayor
while
I'm
speaking
we
we
have
the
issue
with
the
dog.
Again
I
don't
know
several
council
members
mentioned
to
me
that
it
was
distracting
last
time
and
right
now
before
we
even
go
to
the
meeting
it's
going
on
right
now
again,
so
we
might
need
to
remind
people
to
mute
their
devices.
J
B
H
So
thank
very
briefly,
mr
chairman,
mr
most
brought
up
a
very
good
point,
and
that
is,
we
do
have
mr
bennett,
and
that
was
in
response
to
council,
member
rappel's,
second
or
third
opinion
and
there's
people
who
can
give
it
to
us.
But
mr
bennett's
job
as
a
preservationist
has
taken
him
all
over
the
country.
As
you
heard,
and
if
you
look
over
what
looks
like
my
left
shoulder,
but
is
my
right
shoulder?
H
We
can
maybe
go
on
a
parallel
track.
I
mean
it's
going
to
take
some
time
to
design
and
put
up
the
scaffolding.
Mr
bennett's
done
some
work
or
enough
to
prove
some
funds
to
him.
Why
can't
we
ask
him
to
do
that,
work
to
tell
us
what
that
would
look
like.
We
haven't
heard
from
him.
He
might
say
you
cannot
it's
impossible
or
he
might
say
you
can
preserve
it.
My
suspicion
is
he's
going
to
say
you
can
and
then
we
can
look
at
apples
to
apples.
H
I
mean
I've
heard
three
million
entered
around
tonight,
but
that's
off
of
not
even
a
design.
So
I
think
that
we're
jumping
the
gun
here
a
little
bit.
I
I
get
that
we're
gonna
have
to
be
mindful
of
public
safety,
of
course,
but
no
matter
what
we
do
tonight,
we're
gonna
have
to
move
people
out
of
there
and
if
you
all
think
we're
getting
a
hurricane,
I
mean
a
earthquake
tomorrow.
We
better
move
them
out
tonight
so
that
that's
a
whole
separate
issue.
H
N
Yes,
sir,
I
was
getting
to
that
and-
and
I
had
one
final
question-
if
you
don't
mind,
mr
chairman,
yes,
I
see
that
part
of
the
funds
here
are
coming
from
the
charleston
parks,
conservancy
contribution-
and
I
know
they
were
done.
They
were
raising
money
for
some
renovations
at
one
time,
did
they
complete
those
renovations
and
were
they
raising
any
funds
to
shore
up
the
smokestacks?
N
J
We
list
these
items
in
the
agenda.
Of
course,
this
is
part
of
the
overall
project,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
three
million
one
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars,
which
was
renovating
the
building
and
redoing
the
open
space
between
the
building
and
east
bay
street.
That's
the
portion
that
charleston
parks
conservancy
contributed
their
money
to,
but
it
just
makes
up
the
overall
budget
of
the
of
the
project.
J
J
I
I
still
think
ultimately
you're
going
to
have
to
make
a
decision,
whether
you
want
to
spend
3
million
or
so
ballpark
versus
750,
and
you
know
so
be
it
and
if,
if
you
defer
and
we
check
out
those
prices,
I
just
pray
that
the
stacks
don't
come
down
in
the
meantime
and
if,
if
the
preservation
groups
would
like
to
help
us
raise
some
funds,
it's
not
just
for
a
second
opinion.
We
really
need
on
the
order
of
another
two
to
three
million
dollars.
N
M
F
F
O
K
K
So
with
that
said,
you
know,
he's
got
a
lot
on
his
plate
right
now,
but
I
think
the
bigger
challenge
here
is.
He
may
need
to
do
some
additional
testing
to
verify.
You
know
the
integrity
of
the
structure.
Is
there
steel
in
there?
Is
there
not
that
were
on
the
original
drawings?
So
you
know
to
give
him
two
weeks.
I
think
it's
unrealistic
for
him
to
be
able
to
do
that,
but
I
can
still
ask.
A
A
We
would
have
to
the
motion
on
the
table
is
to
defer
for
two
weeks
allowing
the
engineer
time
to
do
an
assessment
within
the
two-week
period
to
give
us
a
sense
of
what
it
would
cost
for
restoration
and
saving
the
stacks.
All
in
favor
say
aye
aye
and
we
do
a
roll
call.
Councilwoman
I
mean
I
can
do
a
roll
call
with
you.
Thank
you.
Madame.
C
F
P
N
C
A
A
M
E
B
A
C
P
Yes,
sir,
mr
chairman,
the
committee
and
real
estate
man
earlier
today
seems
like
a
couple
weeks
ago,
since
we
met
but
earlier
today
to
discuss
a
approval
for
a
sublease
agreement
so
that
we
can
have
a
temporary
location
for
fire
station
number
eight
also
approved
unanimously.
That
was
a
reported
out
unanimously
and
also
approved
unanimously
for
the
annexation
of
1569
north
pine
bark
lane
in
council
member
waring's
district.
A
N
Mr
chairman,
I'm
very
excited
about
this
annexation
because
it's
just
a
few
houses
down
for
my
86
year
old,
soon-to-be,
86-year-old
grandmother
who
I've
been
begging
every
day
for
the
last
three
years
to
move
into
the
city.
She
still
refuses,
but
we're
one
neighbor
closer
to
to
hopefully
getting
her
into
the
city.
So
the
positive
revelation
and-
and
I
know
that
council
member.