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City of Charleston Ways & Means Meeting - December 11, 2017 (Fixed Audio)
D
B
Ready
Jeremy,
okay,
III
mimic
motion
again
yeah
we're
gonna
we're
going
to
start
all
over
and
call
the
ways
that
means
back
to
order.
We
need
a
motion
to
come
out
of
executive
session.
We've
got
a
motion
a
second
by
mr.
Mitchell,
any
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
We
are
now
back
in
our
regular
Ways
and
Means
Committee
I
would
report
that
we
had
discussion
on
the
four
items
that
were
presented
before
our
meeting.
B
There
was
no
action
taken,
no
votes
taken
on
that,
so
coming
out,
I
wanted
to
before
we
start
with
the
next
item
there.
Our
mayor
is
kind
of
under
the
weather.
Don't
shake
his
hand
unless
you
want
something
bad
he's
here,
but
I'm
not
sure
where
he
is
but
he's
kind
of
under
the
weather,
but
he
came
because
this
was
important
and
we
appreciate
him
making
the
effort,
but
we
got
Mayor
Pro
Tem
seeking
ZUP
here
who
is
going
to
be
up
here
filling
in
for
the
mayor,
but
he
will
be
here
so
I'll.
B
E
Chairman,
yes,
I,
have
a
motion
on
item
2a,
which
is
the
update
on
the
gilyard
litigation
that
was
discussed
in
executive
session.
I
move
to
approve
the
finishing
of
the
incomplete
items
of
the
gilyard
auditorium
with
contractors
to
be
determined
by
staff
as
needed
and
funded
with
retainage
monies
that
are
held
by
the
city.
B
D
B
Any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Yes
have
it
item,
3a
is
approved,
item
4
is
bids
and
purchases
will
for
the
items.
We've
got
a
motion
down
here,
a
second
at
a
second
on
those
three
items:
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
item.
The
bids
and
purchases
are
approved.
B
B
B
There
was
an
additional
one
hundred
and
sixty
five
one
hundred
and
sixty
seven
thousand
five
hundred.
That
brings
the
amended
2017
budget
is
6
million,
171,
863
and
basically
within
your
your
packets,
is
the
are
the
items
that
are
that
make
up
that
change.
So
what's
the
pleasure
of
the
council
move
approval?
Second,
not
a
motion,
a
second
all,
those
in
discussion.
That's
on.
A
B
So
basically,
we
approve
the
2017
original
budget
at
the
end
of
the
year.
We've
had
more
money
come
in
basically,
and
there
really
are
not
reallocated
but
they're
allocating
that
increase
and
between
different
things.
So
the
motion
is
to
approve
the
amended
one
and
this
emotion
a
socket
any
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
The
two
thousand
of
mid-2017
amended
is
approved
all
right.
The
next
item
is
B.
B
Thirty
percent
of
it
is
required
by
laws
of
the
CVB,
a
million
for
to
the
Gilyard
management
and
then
there's
a
list
of
items
that
come
down
to
another
two
million
dollars
to
me,
165,
which
leaves
a
surplus
of
about
133,
and
then
they
made
some
adjustments
to
that
and
came
over
the
surplus
of
74
thousand.
What's
the
pleasure
of
the
council,
our
committee
in
1818
2018,
yes,.
A
I'm
sorry
I
fully
clothed
for
closing
a
gap
in
health
care
they
put
in
a
grant
request
of
mrs.
Wharton.
Has
it
I
keep
the
application
came
in
late
for
one
primary
reason,
for
they
have
been
having
this
festival
up
in
North
Charleston
for
nine
years
the
Gilyard
have
been
booked,
Southern
Living
magazine
had
a
had
booked
for
Labor
Day
weekend
and
they
dropped
out,
meaning
the
Gilyard
was
gonna,
be
dark.
A
That
festival
is
looking
to
grow
and
they'd
like
to
access
the
facilities
of
the
gear
yard,
but
they
also
put
in
a
request
for
grants.
Got
nine
year.
Histories
got
a
study
that
was
completed
by
the
College
of
Charleston,
showing
the
economic
impact
of
putting
beds
and
heads
and
I
believe
that
was
part
of
the
package
that
was
delivered
to
mrs.
Wharton.
The
request
is
for
$35,000
and
I
would
certainly
ask
that
committee
I
mean.
B
B
E
You
mr.
chairman,
first
I'd
like
to
thank
councilmember
Gregory
for
very
Abele
and
expertly
taking
over
the
accommodations
Tax
Committee.
It's
a
hard
job
and
had
a
whole
lot
of
people
want
to
do
it,
but
did
a
great
job
of
this
year.
There
were
a
couple
of
things
that
we
have
typically
done
at
that
committee.
One
was
fun
to
request
some
the
Halsey,
which
came
in
a
little
bit
late
this
year,
which
I
think
was
set
aside,
but
needed
a
motion
at
this
council.
E
So
I'd,
ask
council,
member
wearing
if
he'd
accept
an
amendment
to
his
motion
to
add
$17,500
to
the
Halsey
and
$15,000
to
see
we
I
will
do
that
council.
Mr.
Eakins
again,
which
was
also
set
aside
set
aside,
discusses
the
committee
but
left
to
Council
I.
Think
that
that
actually
balances
out
the
budget.
G
B
D
B
F
B
C
I
I
I
I
Of
all
it's
it
I'm,
sorry
that
I,
it
was
been
an
unusual
afternoon.
I
need
a
Rick
form,
I
need
to
recuse
to
say
publicly
on
the
symphony,
obviously,
and
in
keeping
with
many
years
of
tradition,
I'm
going
to
vote
against
a
tax
just
because
I
see
organizations
here
we
fund
year
after
year
after
year,
do
not
put
heads
and
beds
and
what
our
committee
is
tasked
with,
and
I
I
mister
see.
Kings
and
mr.
Gregory
have
done
a
great
job
with
this
year
after
year,
with
the
construct
constructs
of
the
committee
that
they
have.
I
But
what
we
fail
to
do
as
a
council
is
we
fail
to
look
at
this
pot
of
money
and
give
the
allocations
as
to
where
they
need
to
go
via
state
statute,
and
then
say
you
know
what?
What
as
a
city
of
tourism
benefit?
Do
we
need
to
take
care
of?
We
fail
to
capture
a
portion
of
this.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
all
of
it.
I
understand.
I
There
are
some
great
organizations
here
who
do
wonderful
things
for
this
city
and
do
need
to
be
funded,
but
we
allow
ourselves
no
room
to
fund
things
that
we
need
to
attend
to.
We
can't
get
to
a
lot
of
tourism
capital
projects.
We
can't
get
things
off
the
ground
and
get
them
started
because
we
fail
to
take
our
cut
of
the
pie
and
instead
we're
giving
things
and
I'm
not
going
to
name
names.
I
could
go
through.
I
could
tell
you
a
few
horror
stories
with
some
of
these
organizations.
I
That
would
make
you
say:
oh
my
gosh,
never
again,
I'm,
not
gonna.
Do
that
I
see
others
that
don't
put
heads
and
beds
do
not
adhere
to
the
mission
of
tourism
at
all,
but
nevertheless,
I
have
this
conversation
every
year
and
just
by
virtue
of
my
employment,
there
are
things
that
I
can't
say
because
I
know
this
world
so
much
the
arts
and
that
sort
of
thing
I
know
it
too
well.
I
I
can't
say
a
lot
of
things,
I'd
like
to
say:
maybe
I
can
next
year,
but
at
any
rate,
I'm
going
to
vote
against
this,
because
as
a
council
and
our
tax
committee
is
not
given
more
comprehensive
tools
that
it
can
use
to
really
engage
in
good
activity
for
this
city
and
to
to
jumpstart
things
that
will
add
tremendously
to
tourism
over
the
years.
Thank.
B
B
Again
is
the
2017
budget
that
we
have
collected
more
money
than
than
we
anticipated
and
we've
got
some
money
that
we
can
allocate,
and
so
we
need
a
motion
to
approve
this
budget
or
approve
any
amendments
and
I've
got
something
I'd
like
to
say
in
terms
of
an
adjustment.
But
anyway,
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
and
2017?
Yes,
I'll
make
the
motion,
so
we
can
go
in
happens.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thinking.
A
A
B
With
the
total
revenue
was
15
million
645
for
73,
and
then
we
had
additional
$700,000
come
in
to
make
the
total
16
million
360
and
then
there's
there's
several
items
there
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
mine
in
case
it
might
rob,
will
take
most
of
it.
I'm
gonna
stop.
Only
I
won't
leave
anything
for
the
rest
of
you.
Basically,
what
we
had
here
is
an
increase
of
about
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars.
B
There
was
another
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
at
the
gear
yard
that
we
budgeted
them
a
million
dollars
and
they
only
spent
about
eight
hundred
thousand
so
because
of
real
good
management
over
there
by
mr.
Bernard.
We
kind
of
saved
a
few
bucks
there,
but
what
I
would
like
to
do,
and
it
there's
most
of
this
money
if
you
looked
out
at
the
very
bottom,
was
just
added
to
the
the
seawall
and
the
low-battery
fun.
Now
this
is
a
comedy.
This
is
hospitality
tax.
You
know
think
about
that.
B
This
extra
money
we
got
into
the
hospitality
and
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
to
instead
of
putting
it
all
under
that
one
item
would
be
to
put
$500,000
set
it
aside
for
the
underground
wiring
in
the
West.
Actually,
this
would
be
money
to
be
used
in
beautifying
the
highway
17,
basically
by
putting
all
those
distribution
lives
and
it's
going
to
take
a
while
to
do
it,
but
this
is
where
I
would
like
to
get
500,000
in
that
and
haven't
still
leave
another
250,
but
this
hospitality.
B
F
Okay,
I
can
see
us
doing
something
with
Stonyfield,
especially
when
we
look
at
the
bridge
run
and
and
tential
at
the
bridge
run
ending
in
that
area.
At
some
point,
I
know
we
have
a
million,
but
that's
not
enough
to
do
it.
I'd
like
to
see
the
250
go
towards
Stony
feel
so
that
we
can
start
getting
the
architect
who
plans,
drawing
specs
and
etc
together.
For
that
all.
D
B
B
J
B
Yeah
I
have
actually
written
a
letter
to
request
a
review
of
things.
They
want
you
to
go
ahead
and
spend
it,
and
then
they
want
to
find
if
you
did
it
right
or
wrong
and
they
weren't
going
to
give
you
a
advance
advisory,
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
But
but
my
preliminary
was
yes
it'll
of
the
ball
one
of
them.
Let's.
B
K
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I,
just
I
want
to
be
clear
by
statute.
We
have
to
spend
this
over,
which
is
that
correct,
because
I
don't
want
the
people
in
the
audience
saying.
Other
councils
got
a
half
a
million
dollars
or
just
thrown
around
so
I
want.
Clarity
is
that
is
that
a
requirement
Amy
of
the
statute
that
we
spend
the
surplus.
J
J
K
L
Audits
be
clear
on
that,
mr.
moody,
while
you
made
the
request
for
the
underground
for
500,000
for
just
highway
17,
that
would
passage
use
that
you
would
consider
that
the
$500,000
before
underground
for
West
Ashley
and
meet
the
modifications
depending
how
that
may
apply
or
not
apply
for
all
of
West
Ashley.
In
addition
to
just
highway.
17.
B
Let
me
respond
to
that
specifically,
and
the
reason
I
did
it
on
17
was
because
we're
going
to
have
to
funny
might
understand,
could
could
do
it
and
that
TIF
money
cannot
be
used
outside
of
that
TIF
and
so
I'm
trying
to
I
mean
we're
going
to
underground
West
Ashley,
but
we're
going
to
do
it
with
the
TIF,
and
if
we
don't
do
it
for
17,
then
we
can't
go
into
the
TIF
and
get
the
money.
I
know.
L
And
then
and
I
understand
those
restrictions,
that's
why
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
little
more
broader,
because
the
other
argument
is
is
that
Old
Town
Road
is
a
gateway
to
into
town
as
well.
So
I
understand
the
researches
that
we
have
on
this
money
and
I
just
want
to
make
a
little
more
broad
as
to
if
we,
because
we
may
have
money
that
there's
not
all
applied
to
the
ANA
grant
on
highway
17,
and
so,
if
we
get
ourselves
a
little
bit
of
a
box,
I
want
that
money
to
be
available.
D
L
B
About
here
is,
if
you
did
all
of
17
from
the
Ashley
River
Bridge
down
to
Main
Road
it
probably
about
five
million
dollars.
So
that's
that's
what
we're
talking
about
you
know.
I
mean
you
can
spread
it
as
thin
as
you
want
it,
but
that
was
why
I
was
trying
to
to
get
it.
Get
one
project
done
at
a
time
or
get
this
one
started.
L
A
A
B
To
do
this,
and
so
you
know,
is
the
other
at
some
point.
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
bring
back
to
this
council
a
motion
that
we
require
the
the
businesses
and
stuff
than
long
17
that
when
they
redevelop
when
they
do
something
that
they
have
to
put
the
ground
the
wiring
underground
and
in
order
to
encourage
them
to
do
that
that
we
have
some
funds,
some
matching
funds
to
get
that
done,
so
I
mean
I.
Would
you
know
if
they
want
to
do
Orleans
Road?
B
H
H
Think
that'll
be
a
good
idea
if
we
can
approach
to
businesses
and
city
with
are
willing
to
help
us
do
that.
The
other
thing
is
for
years
for
years,
we've
been
talking
about
stony
for
stony
field,
but
underfunded
and
a
deplorable
place.
Burke
high
school
and
other
schools
to
play
so
I'm
certainly
glad
that
council,
member
Craig
Lee
has
thought
about
putting
some
more
monies
into
the
budget.
H
So
I
hope
that
that
we
will
continue
each
year
to
fine
till
we
get
Stonyfield
up
up
to
par,
because
I
think
it's
the
only
all-black
school
in
the
city
and
most
likely
in
Charleston
County,
and
it's
been
underfunded.
For
years
we've
been
trying
to
get
the
school
district
and
other
entities
to
work
with
us
to
seem
like
we
can't
get
it
done
so
I
just
want
to
applaud
you
for
it.
Thank.
E
E
One
of
the
things
that
has
been
on
our
books
for
25
years
is
the
seawall
and
if
there
was
ever
a
project
that
needs
attention
now
and
we
need
to
accelerate
it,
it's
that
project
and
to
not
put
some
of
this
money
towards
that
project.
I
think
would
be
a
massive
error
on
our
part.
It's
there
that
project
needs
to
go.
We
are
sitting
here
with
a
report
in
our
hands
and
say
it's
in
failure
mode.
E
If
it
doesn't
get
fixed,
we've
made
a
huge
mistake:
underground
wiring
in
West,
a
city
is
going
to
take,
among
other
things,
this
councilmember
Lewis
said
cooperation
with
the
businesses.
We
gotta
have
a
plan.
I,
don't
think
it's
engineered,
so
I
think
long-term
goal
for
underground
wiring
is
great
to
put
a
big
hunk
of
$500,000
away
right
now,
which
is
unlikely
to
get
spent
any
time
in
the
near
future
would
not
be
a
good
use
of
our
resources,
given
the
needs
that
we
have
currently
with
water
and
flooding.
I.
E
E
If
you
want
to
start
some
money
into
an
underground,
wiring
front,
I
think
that's
great,
but
to
put
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
has
no
hope
of
getting
spent
any
time
in
the
near
future
for
any
public
good
with
hospitality.
Funds
that
we've
already
collected
I
think
would
be
a
mistake.
So
I
would
like
to
see
an
amendment
to
this
motion
to
see
some
of
that
money
go
towards
a
project.
That's
going
in
2017,
eight!
Yes,.
B
As
I
as
I
address
that
that
question,
because
I
somewhat
anticipated,
you
know
part
of
our
problem
here-
is
that
we've
got
when
we
get
to
2017
budget,
we're
going
to
see
another
pot
of
money
going
to
the
seawall
and
we've
get
to
the
other
budgets,
we're
going
to
see
more
of
it
going
to
the
seawall.
So
this
is
money
that
was
left
over,
that
we
hadn't
had
an
extra
and
it's
about
hospitality.
The
seawall
is
is
really
about
drainage.
B
E
The
seawall
is
reality,
we're
gonna
have
to
deal
with.
That's
that's
fine.
We
have
to
look
at
lots
of
pots
of
money
to
do
it.
It's
gonna
take
a
long
time.
I
just
think
parking
$500,000
for
a
project
that
really
is
nascent
at
best
when
we
could
be
using
it
for
an
active
project
that
is
needed
and
along
a
seawall
where
its
eight
tenths
of
a
mile
I
think
the
population
along
that
seawall
is
six
hundred
people.
E
Six
million
people
go
along
that
seawall
every
year,
so
it's
clearly
something
that
is
a
life
safety
issue,
a
safety
issue,
quality
of
life
issue,
and
it's
what
draws
people
there.
Every
single
picture
you
see
if
Charleston
in
every
tourist
magazine
has
a
picture
of
a
big
house
on
the
battery.
If
that
battery
is
gone,
our
tourism
is
gone
and
we've
got
to
protect
it.
E
We
got
to
take
everything
we
can
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
have
other
important
infrastructure
projects
we
do,
but
we
have
to
prioritize
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
around
these
chambers,
not
just
for
me,
but
from
all
of
us.
The
prioritization
is
something
we
need
to
get
in
line
now
and
as
we
go
forward
into
2017
2018
flooding
both
sides
of
that
River
or
something
you
might
recall,
my
line
about
flooding
was
it's
not
controversial.
It's
expensive
and
I
don't
want
to
make
you
controversial.
E
I
I
But
at
any
rate,
with
all
of
this
talk
and
I
again
now,
you
know
Stonyfield
is
finally
coming
to
light
and
that's
great
again,
it's
another
downtown
project.
I
just
want
you
all,
because
so
many
of
you
have
privately
expressed
interest
to
me.
Please
don't
forget
that
we've
got
to
get
to
West
Ashley
and
we've
got
to
start
getting
some
sports
facilities
over
there,
namely
that
Aquatic
Center.
Of
course,
everyone's
gonna
go
ballistic
and
make
a
lot
of
water,
jokes
and
I
get
it
cute.
Okay,
but
still
it's
a
major
economic
engine.
I
It's
a
major
tourism
engine.
Until
we
have
some
funding,
we
can't
even
begin
to
have
conversations
for
public-private
partnerships
under
which
a
lot
of
the
funding
would
come
together
for
that
so
I'm.
Just
asking
that's.
Why
I
made
the
remarks
about
the
accommodations
tax
that
I
did?
We
don't
help
ourselves
as
the
city
very
well
and
until
we
start
doing
that,
we
get
get
serious
about
bonding
some
of
this
money
out
and
start
to
try
and
fulfill
some
of
these
projects.
We're
never
gonna
make
any
progress.
So
that's
all
I'll
say:
please
don't
forget
that.
C
I
M
We
I
mean
we're
looking
at
the
water
issue
in
the
whole
city
about
maybe
two
billion
dollars,
but
we're
gonna
be
looking
throughout
the
years
of
many
different
things.
To
do.
I
concur
with
Councilman
for
seeking
the
seawall
is
critical
to
even
going
out
to
the
state
legislature
and
being
able
to
put
more
taxes
on
the
tourism,
but
we
got
to
make
sure
that
that
seawall
is
consistent
for
the
tourism
to
come.
M
I
think
when
you
look
at
the
big
picture,
we've
got
to
start
somewhere
and
and
I
like
two
men
I,
like
the
minima
emotion
too,
to
see
that
we
give
the
seawall
the
$500,000,
because
it's
a
shovel-ready
project.
That's
gonna,
take
a
lot
of
money,
but
lease
is
a
start,
because
if
we're
going
to
tax,
the
tourism
in
the
future
and
other
tax
happens
for
the
water
issue,
that
is
about
two
billion
dollars-
is
forty
four
million
dollars
for
a
church,
Creek
Basin
I
mean
we've
got
to
start
someplace
I.
M
B
B
B
B
To
do
that,
put
500
Sewall
250
on
stony
field,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
opposed
Hey
they's
have
it
that
motion
failed
now
back
to
the
original
motion
of
putting
500,000
the
underground
whirring
in
250
into
the
stony
field.
Any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
any
opposed,
saying:
hey.
We
got
two
days
in
the
arrest
or
eyes
that
is
approved,
and
so
the
2017
hospitality
budget
at
6a
is
approved.
The
next
item
is
the
2000s.
E
B
A
A
B
B
B
All
right,
let's,
let's
go
back
and
be
sure,
we've
done
this
right.
You
were
just
handed
the
2018
same
numbers
except
that
shuffled
around
a
little
bit.
That's
a
16
million
nine
hundred
ninety
thousand
nine
hundred
eighty
two
dollars
so
who
made
the
motion
to
approve
I?
Did
you
made
it?
You
accept
this
seat.
I
do.
B
E
You
mr.
chairman
I
do
note
that
part
of
this
budget
includes
$100,000
for
West
Ashley,
bikeway,
resurfacing,
I
know
mr.
Krantz
Berg
is
here
somewhere
in
the
back.
Can
I
just?
Can
you
give
us
a
quick
update
on
where
we
are
on
the
West,
the
bikeway
resurfacing,
and
what
this
money
represents,
as
opposed
to
other
portions
of
the
bikeway.
K
C
Bike
way,
there's
no
active
capital
project
there
now
so
we
service
it.
Although
part
of
the
drainage
projects
that
just
happened
on
the
bike
way
did
resurface
a
portion
between
playground,
Road
and
st.
Andrews,
so
all
right
proportion,
it's
already
done
so
we
have
Ramos.
There
is
getting
half
more
together
great.
Thank
you
any
other
question
for.
K
L
B
K
B
Okay,
we're
going
to
approve
it,
then
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
all
right
in
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
item
number
8
is
the
2018
general
fund
and
enterprise
fund
expenditure
budget
ordinance
and
we're
going
to
have
a
public
hearing
on
this?
It
is
our
city
council
meeting.
So
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
those
budgets,
so
I
can
got
a
motion.
A
second
any
comments.
A
M
B
Guess
we
got
to
prove
them,
we
got
to
prove
the
amendment
first,
do
we
not
and
then
vote
on
the
whole
budget?
Take
this.
We
got
a
mood
on
the
amendment
first,
so
we
got
a
motion
and
a
second
to
remove
$40,000
from
and
I.
Don't
know
right
now,
whether
it's
in
the
legal
department
or
in
the
chief
executive,
it's
in
the
chief
executives
budget,
so
we
got
a
motion
to
remove
$40,000
from
the
chief
executives
budget
for
that
line
item.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
on
that
motion?
B
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
Therefore,
the
motion
carries
so
now
we're
going
to
vote
on
the
amended
motion
or
the
amended
budget
that
has
that
item
excluded
all
right.
So
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
thing
as
amended,
we
got
a
motion
of
saket
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed
the
aisles
head,
no
I,
great.
B
H
J
B
It
yeah
we'll
leave
that
it
will
add
$40
for
fund
balance
or
rebalance
Corelli.
Does
everybody
understand
what
she
was
saying?
Okay,
all
right.
So
the
2018
item
number
nine.
We
got
a
motion
in
a
second
any
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye.
Any
opposed
number
nine
is
approved.
Number
ten
is
approval
of
the
2018
storm
water
utility
budget
motion.
Is
there
a
second.
B
B
What
this
this
budget,
this
budget
also
includes
fees
to
complete
the
work
order,
management
system
that
that
we've
been
working
on
that
ought
to
make
this
more
efficiency
to
know
when
cleaning
is
needed
and
done,
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
this
budget
includes
that.
So
we
got
that
work
order
management
and
we
got.
We
got
four
more
positions,
the
way
the
revenue
comes.
If
you
look
at
the
budget,
it's
basically
six
million
dollars.
This
six
million
dollars
comes
from
a
user
fee
for
one
of
a
better
term.
B
B
What
that
is
based
on
is
the
average
house
is
about
2,200
square
feet.
So
when
we
have
a
business
that
comes
on,
for
example,
we
go
out
and
we
look
at
that
business
and
if
it's
got
11,000
square
feet,
then
that
would
be
five
times
bigger
than
an
average
2200
square
foot
house,
so
their
stormwater
fee
would
be
six
dollars
per
month
times
five
or
$30.00.
B
So
what
it
does
is
it
picks
up
places
like
the
Central
College
of
Charleston,
but
all
these
people
that
don't
pay
any
property
taxes
that
contribute
to
and
benefit
from,
our
stormwater
fees.
So
everybody
is
in
this
boat
together
and,
as
mr.
seeking
said
early,
we
need
to
spend
some
time
and
really
get
started
on
this
stormwater
in
this
drainage
process.
So
here's
what
I'm
going
to
propose
so
other
than
those
four
positions
I'm
going
to
I'm,
going
to
propose
that
we
increase
this
$6
to
$8
$2.
B
That
will
basically
produce
two
million
dollars
a
year
and
what
we're
going
to
do
with
that?
First
of
all,
we're
going
to
the
last
time
we
had
a
master
drainage
plan
in
the
city
was
1984
that
was
done
by
Davis
and
Floyd,
the
fortunately
they're
still
around,
but
Davis
and
Floyd
did
that
plan
we've
tweaked
it
a
little
bit,
but
we
don't
know
what
all
of
our
problems
are,
and
it's
going
to
be
expensive
to
start
that,
but
I
think
before
we
do
anything.
There's
about
five
things
that
this
new.
B
We
need
to
go
out
for
a
request
for
a
proposal
to
to
start
or
develop
a
new
master
drainage
plan,
whoever
we
select
to
do
that.
This
firm
would
also
provide
project
management
services
and,
after
we've
identified
all
of
our
challenges.
We'd
have
a
much
better
sense
with
this
of
what
the
cost
is
going
to
be
on
those
projects
and
maybe
there
and
also
what
their
priority
is,
which
ones
we
ought
to
start
on
which
one
we
get
the
most
benefit
from,
so
the
big
project
management
that
would
come
into
this
thing.
B
The
other
thing
which
I
think
is
critical
is
that
this
engineering
firm
or
whatever?
What
do
you
want
to
call?
It
would
be
responsible
for
grants
we're
not
going
to
do
the
battery
the
church
Cree,
all
these
other,
the
Old
Town.
You
know
you
name
it
we're
going
to
not
do
this
unless
we
go
out
and
find
some
some
other
money
somewhere,
and
so
part
of
this
would
be
to
help
us
apply
for
grants
on
these
specific
projects
that
they
identify.
B
B
B
So
maybe
they
don't
know
it
charge
not-for-profits
or
something
so
they
have
have
a
higher
number
I,
don't
know
what
the
deal
is,
but
we
need
to
look
at
our
rates
and
see
where
they
need
to
be
so
I'm
going
to
propose
as
part
of
this
budget,
that
we
increase
this
fee
from
six
to
eight
dollars
and
that
we
do
these
five
things
we
go
and
look.
We
immediately
start
do
an
RFQ
to
select
a
new
firm
they'll
help
us
with
the
grants,
help
us
with
the
project
management.
E
You,
mr.
chairman,
this
is
something
we
need
to
do
for
sure
before
we
bind
the
money
and
send
it
in
too
many
different
directions.
Though
another
thing
that
we're
adding
in
our
budget
this
year
that
we
just
voted
on
is
a
resiliency
officer.
I,
think
anything
that
has
to
do
with
stormwater
or
in
any
efforts
that
they're
going
to
be
going
forward
in
terms
of
relief
of
water
needs
to
include
our
resiliency
officers.
E
So
the
extent
we're
looking
for
people
to
write
grants
for
us
on
the
private
side,
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
a
coordinated
effort
with
the
resources
that
we're
about
to
basically
hire
at
the
city
internally
and
looks
like
probably
in
the
four
mister
Wilbert.
So,
let's
just
make
sure,
there's
a
coordinated
effort
before
we
start
hiring
a
bunch
more
consultants.
What
we
might
be
able
to
do
a
good
bit
of
this
work.
B
N
N
B
I
think
the
study
itself,
it
might
be
a
half
a
million
dollars
just
to
get
it
going
and
then
what
we're
going
to
end
up
with
is
some
money
to
start
implementing
some
things
and
then
once
we
get
through
that
I
think
we
would
then
have
on
an
ongoing
basis.
This
two
million
dollars
would
be
available
to
to
fund
some
of
this
stuff
or
do
whatever
else
we
need
to
do,
but
we're
going
to
need
a
lot
more
money
than
this
I
mean
that's
in
the
fund
and
I.
Don't
disagree
with
what
you're
saying
and.
N
That's
I
think
my
biggest
challenge
is
that
we,
you
know,
we
just
went
through
the
exercise
with
Church
Creek
and
they
provided
us
with
a
great
study,
but
it
basically
told
us
how
to
fix
a
problem,
but
it
didn't
tell
us
where
to
get
the
money
for
that
and
we
do
that
a
lot.
You
know
we
put
together
studies
and
we
study
things,
and
we
come
up
with
with
these
ideas
but
yeah.
If
we
don't
have
funding
mechanisms
for
them,
we're
not
really
actually
making
an
impact
where
it
needs
to
be
made.
N
Much
more
than
two
million
dollars
worth
but
I
just
I'm
concerned
that
we're
going
to
end
up
spending
a
majority
of
these
funds
and
it's
really
not
going
to
have
a
direct
impact
on
the
things
that
I
feel
like
that.
We
could
make
an
impact.
So
you
know
I'm
torn
with
the
whole
concept
of
raising
the
fee
without
having
certain
priority
and
and
having
a
list
of
items
that
we
could
make
an
impact
with.
So
what
I
would
ask
is?
N
Would
you
consider
carving
out
some
of
that
money
to
be
project
specific
money,
moreso
than
just
being
study
driven
funds?
Ie?
If
we
said
okay,
we're
going
to
spend
a
half
a
million
dollars
of
this
2
million
on
a
study,
but
the
other
million
5
must
and
will
be
used
directly
for
projects
for
making
direct
and
immediate
improvement,
whatever
small
they
may
be,
but
they'll
make
big
impacts
for
a
neighborhood
somewhere.
Would
you
all
be
considered?
Would
you
consider
that,
as
an
amendment
I
would.
B
G
G
It
would
supplement
the
staff
we've
got
now,
because
my
sense
is
that
we
are
gonna
raise
fees
and
the
public
is
gonna
want
to
know
which
projects
we're
going
to
be
working
on
exactly
what
what
you're
after
and
as
councilmember
moody
knows,
we've
got
and
everybody
knows:
we've
got
multiple
interests
out
there
trying
to
help
us,
so
some
of
that
money
will
go
directly
to
projects,
but
the
project
manager
will
be
really
important.
Helping
us
find
our
way
through
the
weeds
into
which
projects
were
able
to
fund
I.
G
Think
they'll
also
be
instrumental
in
helping
us
figure
out.
What's
the
right
mix
of
stormwater
fees,
taxes
grant
opportunities,
maybe
flood
mitigation
assistance
or
pre-disaster
mitigation
money
and
and
maybe
helping
us
try
to
get
some
more
money
working
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers
or
or
some
other
opportunities
that
we
think
might
be
out
there,
but
I
think
and
the
capital
money
also
I
think
it's
important.
It's
not
just
going
to
be
two
million
dollars,
there's
going
to
be
a
mix
in
here
of
bonds
that
we
issue
too.
G
You
know
a
couple
years
ago
we
went
out
for
a
bond
issue
and
we
raised
46
million
dollars
to
help
us
fund
several
projects.
We
can
do
that
again
with
this
additional
money,
so
we
don't
have
to
just
wait
till
we
do
one
and
a
half
million
dollar
projects
over
and
over
again,
but
I
think
all
of
us
and
the
citizens
are
going
to
want
to
see
an
updated
plan
going
forward.
You
know
some
real
goals,
which
projects
can
we
fund?
N
So
what
what
can
you
give
me?
A
specific
dollar
figure
that
that
you
have,
in
your
mind,
carved
out
for
a
study
and
for
this
staff
person
as
a
project
manager,
so
that
we
know
how
much
is
actually
going
to
be
funds
available
to
actually
do
projects,
whether
it
be
a
direct
project
or
go
out
and
using
that
for
debt
service
on
the
body.
G
Well,
so
I'm,
anticipating
this
project
manager
would
not
be
a
direct
staff
person
because
we
just
are
kind
of
the
way
we're
structured
here
at
the
city.
It's
going
to
be
difficult
to
hire
somebody
like
that
in
this
climate,
but
it
would
be
a
consultant
who
would
be
able
to
bring
multiple
expertise
to
the
project
they
be
able
to
bring
Economist's
to
the
project
and
certainly
engineers,
and
certainly
surveyors,
and
certainly,
project
managers.
If
we
need
that,
so
that
would
leave
of
this
two
million
another
million
and
a
half,
but
I
would
submit
that.
G
N
Understand
correctly,
half
a
million
would
be
used
for
again
the
study,
the
the
the
group
that
we
would
leverage
to
help
or
the
individual
consultant.
Whatever
you
want
to
call
to
help
us
understand,
the
prioritization
grant
writing
a
million
five
directly
for
impact
making
impacts,
whether
it
be
direct
projects,
expense
or
bonding
it
right.
G
G
It
depends
on
how
far
we
engage
these
people,
because
we're
gonna
have
to
have
project
managers.
Construction
inspectors,
we're
gonna,
have
to
have
people
to
help
us
acquire
real
estate
when
we
have
to
get
easements
and
things
and
I've.
Just
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
that.
So
we've
been
using
in-house
staff
to
do
a
lot
of
that
on
Market
Street
and
to
do
it
on
the
Forest
Acres
project.
But
it
is
just
terror.
It's
really
time
consuming,
and
my
sense
is
that
you
guys
want
us
to
move
faster
and
have
some
more
resources.
N
Thank
you.
So
what
I
would
say,
mr.
chairman,
is
that,
if
you're
willing
to
amend
the
motion
to
dictate
that,
in
fact
of
that
two
million
that
will
be
created
roughly
by
this
increase
up
to
and
no
more
than
a
half,
a
million
would
be
expended
towards
what
I
would
call
study
funds
and
the
remaining
portion
could
be
used
for
direct
project
improvements.
I'd
be
willing
for.
B
J
E
At
what
I
hear
councilmember
white
asking
is
for
a
cap
on
the
amount
of
monies
that
is
spent
on
consulting
a
$500,000
going
forward.
You
know
I
think
that
we
need
to
do
a
lot
of
things
to
jumpstart
the
needs
that
we've
got
in
terms
of
stormwater
and
flooding.
Maybe
the
first
year
we
spent
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
someone
who's,
not
quote-unquote
a
consultant,
but
as
a
project
manager
can
bring
health
to
larger
projects
sometimes
would
be
less.
E
We
have
to
be
somewhat
nimble
with
this,
and
we're
gonna
have
to
have
other
funds
coming
in,
so
I
have
no
problem
with
putting
a
cap
on
consulting
fees,
but
because
we
want
this
money
spent
on
actual
drainage
relief.
I
agree
with
that
and
I
agree
with
councilmember
white
I
mean
you
know.
Raising
fees
is
not
something
to
be
taken
lightly,
because
it's
gonna
be
a
burden
on
some
people,
but
we
need
to
be
nimble
going
forward
and
this
will
be
a
recurring
fee
right.
E
L
B
The
amendment
is
that
we
spent
no
more
than
500
thousand
dollars
on
this.
No
more,
no
more!
That
yeah
call.
The
on
this
study
is
that,
okay,
all
right,
we'll
call
for
the
question,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
2018
storm
water
utility
budget,
as
amended,
say:
aye
hi,
any
opposed
all
right
number
10
is
approved
all
right
now,
maybe
we
can
start
moving
here
a
little
bit.
B
D
B
N
I,
just
ask
one:
yes,
sir,
so
on
that
item
not
specific
to
that,
but
but
the
Maritime,
Center
and
I
don't
know
in
capital
projects
an
answer
this,
but
there
is
a
that
the
depths
of
the
water
along
the
water's
edge
there
has
gotten
to
such
where
you
can't
really
use
on
some
of
the
finger
piers
for
parking
folks.
We.
D
N
C
N
D
N
In
it
when
we
first
built
the
Maritime
Center,
that
wasn't
the
case,
but
we
have
failed
to
continue
to
dredge
that
area,
and
so
that's
all
new
sediment
from
when
we
actually
built
so
I
would
just
ask:
can
we
can
we
take
a
look
at
that
and
see
what
the
cost
would
be
and
if
there
is
some
environmental
issues,
what
those
are
and
what
hurdles
are
we
definite
cause
to
do
that?
We're.
A
B
Discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
hi,
any
opposed
13
is
approved.
14
is
approval
of
bein
seal
and
install
check
valve
approval
on
the
storm
drain
motion
a
second
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
oppose
disapproved
item.
15
is
the
public
service?
Second,
without
a
motion,
a
second
on
that
harbor
harbor.
Second
Road.
Is
there
any
discussion?
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed.
15
is
approved.
Item
number
16
is
a
committee
on
real
estate,
chairman
white
Thank,.
N
You,
mr.
chairman,
the
Committee
on
real
estate
met
today
at
3:30
3
o'clock.
We
heard
three
updates
on
the
low
line
issues
with
police
in
the
billboards
at
the
track
housing.
We
also
had
a
discussion
around
the
execution
of
First
Amendment
from
her
own
standing
on
the
low
line.
We
had
a
request
for
approval
for
the
exclusive
stormwater
drainage
easement
with
the
city
and
actually
Manor
I,
actually
hauled
man,
a
drainage
improvement
project
and
to
annexations
one
at
14,
19,
adèle,
Street,
the
other
and
volleying
Grimble.
A
Once
discussion,
I
think
a
chill
person
wanted
me
to
add.
It
was
a
pretty
good
discussion
about
the
some
sort
of
upgrade,
so
the
people
at
the
market
will
be
able
to
get
heat
in
the
winter
time
right
now.
There's
no
mechanisms
for
them
to
do
that.
They
can't
plug
in
a
space
heater
fire
department
is
outlawed,
I
think
the
propane
heaters
that
they
once
had.