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City of Charleston Ways and Means Meeting - June 17, 2019
A
Good
afternoon
on
a
Monday
of
all
things,
I
think
this
is
the
first
for
me
to
have
split
them
up
in
two
different
days.
All
right,
let's
see
today,
is
June
17
2019.
It
is
4:30,
and
this
is
a
committee
on
ways
and
means
and
we're
gonna
open
up
with
an
implication.
If
I
could
ask
council
member
wearing
to
provide
us
with
an
invocation,
please.
B
B
We
pray
for
the
best
of
our
intellect
to
come
forth
as
we
go
about
making
decisions
on
behalf
of
all
the
citizens
in
the
city
of
choice,
big
file,
president,
we
pray
for
governor
would
pray
for
me
and
certainly
all
the
council
members
around
the
table
and
our
staff,
because
without
them
it
wouldn't
be
done.
Give
thanks
to
all
the
fathers
and
all
the
mothers
that
need
their
fathers
in
our
county.
We're
pretty
foul
military,
keep
them
safe
out
of
harm's
way.
B
A
A
C
A
We've
got
a
second
okay,
all
right
any
discussion
hearing,
none
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
those
opposed
you
know,
I
just
have
it
item.
Seven
stormwater
management
board
will
accept
the
grant
of
water
for
nine.
Ten
thousand
two.
Ninety
two
and
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
have
it
item:
8
stormwater
management,
approval
of
spring
Fishburn
phase,
two
fee,
amendment
number
16,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
now
I
just
have
it
item.
9
is
stormwater
management.
A
B
Oversight
on
this,
some
of
the
larger
amendments
to
this
contract
that
some
of
these
come
before
the
Public
Works
Committee,
as
opposed
to
just
coming
straight
to
ways
and
means,
so
we
can
get
more
detail
in
transit
and
transparency
on
these
things
right
a
lot
of
times.
We
have
approved
this
almost
automatically
going
forward,
I
think
on
this
project.
We
can
no
longer
do
that
right
now,
we're
about
to
approve
about
1.5
million
and
I
think
if
your
lives
depended
on
it.
You
couldn't
say
what
it's
for
so
I'm,
going
to
ask
that
items.
D
A
A
D
F
B
E
B
Reason
I
didn't
object
at
that
time,
because
I
knew
I
was
going
to
it
was
already
on
Ways
and
Means.
Committee
and
I
would
have
this
discussion
on
the
floor.
It
wasn't
on
our
agenda
at
public
works
and
the
proper
place
to
raise
the
issue.
I
thought
was
that
the
reason
Means
Committee
we've
had
I
don't
know.
This
is
what
the
19th
amendment
and
I
guess,
one
16:17,
maybe
even
18,
has
almost
been
automatic
and
I
think.
That's
part.
B
A
D
The
mayor
I
mean
consistent
with
the
rules
of
the
body
and
the
responsibilities
of
all
the
Standing
Committee
I,
think
with
Councilman
Waring
is
suggesting,
is
consistent
with
those
rules
and
I.
Don't
think
that
it
only
necessarily
applies
to
public
service.
Okay,
I
think
it
applies
to
most
of
the
committees,
sometimes,
instead
of
them
going
to
the
Standing
Committee.
It
comes
to
the
committee
of
the
whole.
D
It
never
actually
has
an
opportunity
to
be
set
it
at
the
committee
level,
so
the
committee
can
make
a
recommendation
to
the
body
of
the
whole,
so
it
hope
as
we
move
forward,
and
it
is
going
to
be
much
much
more
work
for
these
committees.
Okay,
it's
not
going
to
get
10
minutes.
15
minute
meeting
we
were
elected
to
represent
the
interests
of
the
people
and
it
takes
longer
than
10
of
15
20
minutes
to
make
decisions
on
many
of
the
things
that
come
before
us.
D
It's
our
hope
that,
as
we
move
forward,
not
just
for
public
services
but
for
all
things
that
relate
to
a
specific
committee
report
comes
to
the
body
polled
consistent
with
our
rules
that
it
comes
before
the
committee's
first
I
mean
we've
been
strengthening
the
committee
over
the
last
three
years.
Nope
no
question
okay,
but
I
would
just
like
for
us
to
just
be
consistent
across
the
board.
Sounds.
G
Chair
and
I'm
fine
with
that
I
just
well,
we've
got
mr.
fountain.
Here
we
have
talked
about
it
at
the
budget
committee
some
another
month
before
we
come
back.
Can
you
just
give
us
at
least
because
we're
not
all
on
the
public
works?
Tell
us
unaware.
We
are
particularly
with
number
nine
just
briefly
and
then
send
it
back
to
the
committee
yeah.
Well,
nine
I'm,
particularly
interested
10,
yeah,
okay,.
G
E
Item
nine
has
previously
come
to
council
would
been
deferred
right,
which
was
the
intent
to
bring
it
back
two
ways
and
means
to
address
that
out
of
it,
and
it
had
already
been
to
Council
and
been
the
subject
of
a
number
of
workshops.
Just
as
a
caveat
on
item
10,
is
it
appropriate
to
address
sudden
10?
That's.
E
Some
point
in
August
to
September,
depending
on
burn
rate,
so
just
part
of
the
intention
of
bringing
it
so
early
was
to
make
sure
we
didn't
have
an
issue
we're
running
up
against
an
area
where
we
had
to
determine
whether
to
continue
work
without
authorization
or
whether
to
stop
project.
So
I.
Just
don't
want
to
get
us
into
that.
We're
not
intentionally
get
us
back
into
that
same
issue
on
an
item
check,
not
an
item
not
going
on
item
10
yeah.
A
And
I
don't
know
that
necessarily
there's
a
lot
of
like
I
said
I
think,
most
of
the
consternation
that
that
I
think
most
of
my
colleagues
are
around
9
and
so
10
I
think,
but
it
would
be
appropriate
from
a
time
standpoint,
I
think
between
now
and
August
we
should
be
able
to
get
in
front
of
Public
Safety
and
our
public
service
and
come
back.
So
this
briefly.
A
E
So
for
item
9,
that
is
the
amendment
17
of
the
project.
So
this
was
the
guide
and
it's
been
discussed
at
some
length
with
council
members,
but
it
is
related
to
charges
on
the
face
for
design
portion
of
the
project
that
work
that
had
been
completed
and
then
brought
to
Council
for
approval
that
we've
broken
it
into
five
tasks
for
clarity.
The
first
task
is
a
basically
a
structural
report
for
austere
mitigation
work.
E
It's
a
fourth,
approximately
$4,950,
that's
part
of
the
Citadelle
partnership
project
with
our
MoU,
with
the
citadel
so
as
part
of
our
5050
cost
split.
It's
for
structural
integrity
of
the
section
of
the
port
that
the
oyster
shells
were
stored
on
for
their
quarantine
period
to
make
sure
that
that
section
of
the
port
didn't
collapse
from
having
that
level
of
oyster
shell
placed
on
top
of
it.
That
was
a
time
sensitive
issue.
Obviously,
for
that
one
item:
2
is
the
mitigation
projects
themselves,
so
that's
the
development
of
that
citadel
cost
shared
agreement.
E
That's
for
a
50-50
cost
split
with
the
citadel
foundation
for
mitigation
work
they
had
going
on
as
well.
We've
combined
those
two
projects
together,
the
that
included
agreement
to
use
the
state
sports
authority
terminal
and
work
on
the
Garen
Creek
project,
the
rebid
for
the
saltmarsh
mitigation,
that
was
approximately
nineteen
thousand
six
hundred
and
thirty-five
dollars.
E
It
could
have
been
used
towards
the
project
that
was
twelve
thousand
seven
hundred
and
eighty
five
dollars
task
for
was
the
movement
of
items
from
a
potential
phase,
five
into
Phase
four,
so
that
at
the
end
of
the
phase
for
construction
period,
which
is
the
construction
that
we
are
just
beginning
at
this
point,
we
also
have
phase
three
construction,
currently
continuing
good
phase.
Four.
Is
that
wet
well
and
the
outfall
construction
of
the
ice-river
that
the
project
would
be
functional
at
the
end
of
that
phase,
we'd
be
able
to
use
it
as
a
gravity
system.
E
The
item
that
I
think
created
much
of
the
discussion
was
item
five,
which
are
the
design
revisions.
Those
were
our
items
to
address
lifecycle,
cost
of
operation,
improving
maintenance
capabilities
and
efforts
on
the
project
adjust.
There
were
some
adjustments
for
as
well
conditions
on
a
previous
phase,
basically
trying
to
make
the
project
perform
better
and
be
easier
to
maintain.
That
was
an
original.
E
H
Gonna
will
just
want
to
refer
back
to
our
public
works
committee
again
and
just
kind
of
explain
to
you
all
how
we
get
these
updates.
So
you
know
each
one
of
our
engineers
or
project
managers
comes
up
and
gives
a
presentation
of
what
projects
they've
currently
been
overseeing
and
gives
us
updates
on
that.
But
they
don't
they
don't
do
it
in
writing,
so
maybe
going
forward.
The
smart
thing
would
be
that
we
get
a
list,
and
you
know
some
bullet
points,
some
summary
items,
because
what
happens
is
you
have?
You
know
mr.
H
Kirk,
who
is
a
great
great
person
who
is
very
smart?
Who
has
a
ton
of
projects
that
he's
working
on
when
you
blow
through
a
list
within
a
few
minutes,
because
we're
trying
to
get
through
an
agenda?
You
don't
necessarily
pick
up
one
everything,
that's
going
to
be
on
that
night's
agenda
and
and
to
kind
of
make
you
know,
drop
that
point
home.
We're
talking
about
amendment
19
here.
You
know
you,
cats,
you,
you
can't
dissect
that
kind
of
information
within
minutes
or
hours
it
takes.
You
know
several.
H
H
You
know
we
are
asking
for
more
time
and
I
think
that's
the
right
thing
to
do,
because
we
can't
afford
to
make
another
bad
decision
on
this
project.
So
if
it's
got
to
come
through
public
workers
and
give
us
an
opportunity
to
really
dissect,
it
I
think
that
that
would
make
this
committee
more
informed
as
we
move
forward.
H
D
E
These
are
amendments
to
professional
services
contract.
There
are
adjustments
to
the
scoping
of
the
contracts
so
that,
while
we're
on
amendment
19,
the
way
the
contract
is
set
up
is
that
many
of
those
are
our
new
work
that
is
proposed
as
we
have
each
phase
of
the
contract
open,
so
the,
for
instance,
the
original
contract
may
be
to
design
phase
one.
E
Then
there
may
be
an
amendment
to
come
in
and
do
the
construction
engineering
inspection
on
phase
one
saying
here's
we've
identified
that
amount
of
money,
then
you
might
come
back
with
an
amendment
to
say
here
is
the
design
fee
to
do
the
design
on
phase
two?
Then
here
is
a
construction
engineering
inspection
amendment
to
do
the
interaction
engineering
inspection
on
phase
two.
So
a
number
of
those
amendments
are
kind
of
anticipated
as
parts
of
increasing
that
scope
of
the
project.
As
you
go
along
how.
E
So
the
amendments,
the
professional
service
amendments
are
just
like
any
contract.
We
enter
into
the
professional
service
firm
that
their
first
evaluated
based
the
firm
itself
is
value
a
bit.
Some
qualifications
then
once
you're
into
FINA
goshi,
a
shin
you're
negotiating
off
of
scope,
primarily
you're
saying
what
is
the
appropriate
scope
and
what
is
the
professional
service
fee
appropriate
for
that
work
and
to
determine
how
much
time
is
necessary
to
perform
those
those
steps?
D
D
E
The
budget
office
has
to
be
involved
with
what
funding
is
available.
What
allocation
money
is
available
within
the
project
itself,
and
that's
something
that
is
is
very
important
for
projects,
because
we
need
to
make
sure
we
have
funding
to
actually
build
and
design
building
construct
the
project
not
just
do
the
design
work,
so
we
need
to
keep
them
involved
as
much
as
we
can
I
think.
We've
built
a
good
relationship
with
the
finance
department
in.
D
E
A
I
E
So
so
the
the
grant
itself.
This
is
just
the
letter
to
award
the
grant
formally
here
for
us
to
accept
the
award
of
the
grant
separately.
We
have
on
the
capital
project
review
committee,
which
is
the
other
committee
for
capital
project
work.
That
committee
already
has
on
its
agenda.
The
negotiate
negotiated
scope
and
contract
with
GMT
the
consultant
to
do
the
design
work
on
the
first
phase
of
that
project.
I
E
That
that
next
CPR
meeting,
that
believe,
is
the
beginning
of
July,
so
the
contract
would
go
to
that
committee
be
approved
conceptually.
It
might
go
from
that
committee
if
we
can
get
on
the
agenda
in
time
to
public
works
utilities,
if
not
it'll
go
to
the
July
public
works
utilities.
No,
the
August
public
works
utilities.
E
At
that
point,
then,
from
the
August
public
works
utilities
it
would
come
back
to
the
ways
and
means
and
then
the
ways
it
means
if
it
approves,
would
go
to
council
also
in
August
and
then
there'd
be
able
to
be
an
award,
hopefully
by
the
end
of
August.
If
we
don't
have
the
Public
Works
utilities
step
generally,
that
would
have
been
bringing
it
in
the
of
July
meeting
for
approval
of
council.
J
J
You,
mr.
chairman
I
I
just
would
like
to
add
my
add
my
own
observations.
I
guess
in
terms
of
I
came
obviously
very
late
to
the
party
of
this
bring
Fishburne
overall
plan,
as
we
were
presented
with
the
cost
increase
this
past
year
and
to
to
come
to
grips
with.
You
know
the
fact
that
that
that
those
increases
are
necessary
on
their
face
and
we
did
I
think
we
did
a
pretty
thorough
job
of
asking
all
the
all
the
right
questions
getting
detailed
and
thorough
answers.
J
J
That's
important
in
our
service
to
the
city,
I'm
personally
interested
in
everything
that
happens
out
of
Public
Works
I've
been
trying
to
put
that
on
my
agenda
just
to
go
in
and
listen
to
their
conversations
on
the
decisions
that
they're
making
so
I
fully
support
that
everything
that
we
agree
to
pay
for
it
ways
and
means
that
has
this
kind
of
big-ticket
numbers
come
through
public
works
but
I.
But
I
really
think
we
need
to
make
the
record
clear
that
we're
not
complaining
that
we're
not
getting
the
information
they
don't.
J
The
only
thing
that
I
hadn't,
seen
until
it
came
in
our
packet
a
week
ago,
was
the
negotiation
that
we
had
authorized
mr.
fountain
to
make
on
our
behalf,
to
to
get
the
number
as
small
as
possible
and
still
get
the
work
for
this
amendment
number
17
and
I
I
think
you
know
150,000
dollars
off
of
a
bill
that
was
started
out
at
five
hundred
and
five
thousand
I
think
is
a
pretty
amazing
accomplishment,
so
I.
Thank
you
for
that
kind
of
negotiation
and
I
do
hope
that
we
can
meet
your
deadlines.
J
H
We
are
the
the
last
line
of
defense,
we're
the
ones
that
have
to
answer
to
the
community,
we're
the
ones
who
have
to
appropriate
the
money
in
the
budget
and
to
that
question
or
to
that
statement,
I
have
a
question
for
for
Amy
I
thought
a
couple
months
ago,
we
we
had
already
appropriated
all
of
the
SIB
money.
Was
this
already
allocated
this?
This
project
are
here
number
ten
at
that
time,
because
I
thought
that
we
didn't
have
any
more
SIF
money
left.
We.
K
K
H
M
1150
I
left
my
office
this
morning
and
went
message.
Somebody
for
love,
I
finished
it
one
jumped
in
my
car,
came
to
town
as
quick
as
I
could
just
a
bit
Public
Works
at
1:30.
I
know
this
is
a
tone.
This
is
1156
a.m.
on
your
email
and
first
time,
I
saw,
of
course,
when
I
said,
I
want
to
know
where,
where
I
couldn't
see.
M
M
M
Go
ahead,
we
got
half
the
ball
here,
a
few
extra
dollars,
that's
when
the
accelerations
and
all
the
delay.
Why
was
it
delay?
Well,
we
had
a
random
storm.
Well,
federal
government
believes
that
delivers
a
very
intense
well
12
days
a
month
into
the
month
of
July
the
trees.
It's
another
delay.
It
should
be
expected.
M
M
B
Thank
you,
I
think
Wagner
actually
touched
on
it,
but
Councilwoman
Jackson
said
about
the
good
job.
I
do
second,
that
just
meant
you're
doing
a
good
job,
but
on
the
take,
for
example,
amendment
number
19,
one
of
the
things
you
alluded
to
was
a
change
in
the
school.
If
you
have
a
change
in
the
scope
of
the
work,
obviously.
B
The
professional
services
teaching
can
any
councilmen
around
this
table.
Tell
me
what
was
the
change
in
the
scope
of
this
of
this
drainage
project
that
precipitated
was
1.17
billion
dollars
in
professional
services,
in
other
words,
the
scope
of
the
project
being
changed,
altered
from
the
original
concept
that's
being
approved
and
we
get
a.
We
get
enough
requests
to
approve
the
professional
services
on
that
consultant.
Part
of
it
who
approve
the
change
of
the
scope,
wouldn't
work
that
gets
done,
and
we
not.
B
We
don't
even
know
what
why
the
original
design
no
longer
would
work
and
why
we
need
to
have
it
done
see
that
that's
the
kind
of
specifics
we
are
not
getting
and
we're
not
gonna
get
that
in
a
way.
That
means
we
put
and
we're
not
going
to
get
that
in
a
summary
right.
So
mr.
Kirkwood
all
due
respect,
anybody.
B
B
B
B
Now
we
want
you
to
approve
somebody
to
design
the
scope
and
we
don't
change
in
the
school,
and
we
don't
even
know
why
the
scope
needed
to
be
changed,
see
one
of
the
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
have
I
really
and
truly
believe
that
this
project
would
have
trained
efficiently.
If
hilt
the
way
it
was
originally
doing,
Paul
originally
designed
I
should
say
not
now,
we've
had
a
number
of
changes
along
the
way
and
that
those
changes
have
to
be
made,
or
this
thing
wasn't
gonna
work.
B
I
just
don't
believe
that
this
project
was
originally
designed
not
to
work.
We
have
too
many
other
ones
that
came
prior
to
that.
That
did
so
when
these
changes
come
through
to
the
scope,
in
my
opinion,
sometimes
that's
optional,
and
if
it's
optional,
we
should
have
the
right
to
say
yay
or
nay
right
now,
this
all
is
being
placed
to
us
as
if
we
don't
prove
it,
we
hold
up
the
project
running
up
the
cost,
and
some
of
these
things
may
be.
B
You
know,
I
still
drive
my
knife
or
truck
and
I
go
out
there
right
now
and
turn
that
key.
Like
he's
gonna
kick
over
as
it
was
originally
designed,
they
got
new
forward
trucks
out
there,
much
prettier
than
the
one
I
have,
but
I
choose
not
to
get
that
new
forward
truck
I
still
drive
my
own
fortune,
so
I'm
just
saying
some
of
the
changes
of
these
scopes,
the
mayor,
as
well
as
all
12
council
people
need
to
have
the
knowledge
to
say.
B
N
Well,
thank
you.
Mr.
chairman
and
I
appreciate
this
discussion
here
today
and,
and
in
fact,
part
of
all
this
is
is
about
changing
our
process
to
the
better
and
I
mr.
fountain
is
breath
of
fresh
air.
In
that
regard,
and
to
mr.
Gregory's
remarks,
I
I
feel,
like
I've,
tried
and
in
sincere
way,
to
bring
more
things
to
the
standing
committees
over
the
last
few
years
and
and
I'm
very
happy
to
to
take
these
two
amendments
back
to
public
service
committee
and
and
and
fully
vet
every
aspect
of
it.
N
That
being
said,
that
there
has
been
a
lot
of
conversation
about
particularly
number
nine
and
and
I'll
concur
with
with
councilmember
Jackson's
observation
that
that
Matt
fountain
has
done
a
terrific
job.
Negotiating
and
I
want
a
y'all
probably
saw
him
over
there.
Mike
Porten
is
here
with
Davis
and
Floyd
and
had
come
prepared
to
answer
any
questions,
and
we
also
met
recently
with
his
boss.
Mr.
Davis
Steven
Davis,
and
you
know
they
they're
trying
to
do
everything
in
a
collaborative
way.
N
Given
a
40-year
relationship
with
with
the
city
to
try
to
dissolve
this
past
issue
and
move
forward
in
a
very
good
way
now
that
being
said,
I
do
want
to,
and
maybe
mr.
chairman,
we
just
should
chat
a
little
bit
before
each
agenda
because,
like
the
question
that
councilmember
Lewis
brought
up,
you
know
we
we
all
want
to
move
forward
as
quickly
to
begin
with
huger
and
King
Street
project,
and
you
know
at
this
point
really.
N
The
next
thing
after
the
bedding
of
the
the
RFP
is
just
to
bring
it
to
two
ways
and
means
I
mean
it
would
seem
to
me.
That's
the
case
that
we
don't
really
need
the
extra
step
of
going
back
to
public
service
before
it
comes
to
ways
and
means
we
all
concur.
We
that
projects
on
our
list.
We
want
to
move
it
forward
if
the
next
step
is
to
have
a
contract,
with
the
engineering
firm
to
do
the
final
design,
so
we
can
get
the
project
moving.
N
I
mean
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
what
really
needs
to
be
vetted
in
that
regard.
At
this
point
with
public
service,
so
maybe
I'm,
not
the
chairman.
We
just
have
a
conversation
about
some
of
these
matters
and
make
some
decisions
about
going
for
a
deeper
conversation,
a
public
service
versus
going
for
approval
for
ways
and
means,
or
repair
of
some
parts
way
or
whatever
so
anyway.
N
F
Shane
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
and
I
want
to
go
back
to
a
conversation
we
had
several
months
ago
when
this
issue
was
coming
up
and
brewing
in
front
of
us
on
this
project
and
I
made
it
point
that
problem
with
this
is
a
lack
of
communication
and
we
were
not
brought
up
to
speed
on
the
same
from
time
to
time,
and
what
I'm
noticing
on
item
number
10
attached
to.
The
request
is
a
letter
from
David
Sequoia
dated,
may
16,
2019
and
I.
F
Don't
want
people
council
member
wearing
on
this,
but
it
would
seem
to
me
that,
since
we
had
some
knowledge
about
this
request
for
over
a
month
ago,
may
16th
then
maybe
at
that
particular
point
in
time.
A
conversation
should
have
been
had
between
the
chairman
of
our
public
works
committee
and
mr.
fountain
to
put
us
on
notice
that
this
was
going
to
come
up
at
some
point
in
the
immediate
future.
F
So
the
whole
problem
with
this
is
that
we're
not
getting
enough
information
in
advance
to
understand
what
we're
doing
we're
talking
about
a
huge
project,
a
million
plus
dollars
and
we're
about.
We
all
want
the
project
to
be
completed.
We
want
this
project
to
be
successful.
We
want
to
do
it
with
our
stewardship
of
obligations
to
making
sure
this
money
is
being
spent
appropriately
and
in
the
right
way,
but
the
project
is
being
completely
so
we
don't
want
to
add
layers
and
layers
of
bureaucracy
to
delay.
F
This
thing,
but
I
have
said
this
several
times
it's
about
of
communication.
There's
none
of
us
getting
the
information
as
fast
as
we
can
and
efficiently
as
we
can,
and
so
perhaps,
maybe
when
we
had
these
communications
that
at
least
our
council
chair
is
made
aware
of
what's
going
on,
he
has
a
little
bit
ahead
of
the
curve
of
what
is
taking
place
with
this
request
so
that
he
knows
what's
going
on,
but
she
knows
what's
going
on
with
with
this
request,
we
could
be
better
informed
about
it.
F
F
We
were
aware
this
request
is
gonna
hit
the
pipeline
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
has
to
be
done
in
the
meantime
with
that,
but
the
least
we
have
some
idea.
We
can
some
ask
some
questions
before
it
comes
out
for
our
I
need
to
say
that
this
way
it
lasted,
we
request,
but
communication
on
this
thing
is
a
critical
component
of
making
sure
this
is
successful.
F
So
what
I
would
recommend
is
that
this
better
communication
between
our
chair
of
the
Public
Works,
Committee
and
our
director,
so
that
we
know
these
things
as
far
in
advance
as
we
possibly
can.
So,
at
least
we
know
what's
taking
place
with
this
stuff,
and
we
don't.
We
don't
have
this
discussion
again
in
a
month
from
now.
This.
B
Is
Tim?
Thank
you.
I
agree
with
everything
my
colleague
says
again
back
to
the
question,
who
approves
the
changes
of
the
school
project:
who's
actually
making
that
decision.
Mr.
man
right
now,
I,
don't
know
so
when,
when,
when
change
to
the
scope
that
involved
amendment
number
19
who
actually
made
that
decision,
we
should
move
forward
with
this
chain
to
the
scope
of
the
project.
N
L
N
B
E
E
There
have
been
delays
to
the
project
that
has
also
extended
the
amount
of
time
by
reducing
the
burn
rate
on
the
C&I
work
that
we
now
have
funding
through
August
early
September,
depending
on
what
the
final
burn
rate
is
the
current
construction
schedule
for
the
current
fit
for
phase
3
projects
a
finish
date
between
March
and
May
of
2020.
So
this
is
to
extend
the
existing
services
to
cover
that
extra
timeframe.
B
You
know
that
that
was
him,
so
there
was
no
change
to
actual
the
actual
project
itself.
This
is
extent
extended
of
professional
services.
So
when
the
project
was
delayed,
expending
explain
to
me
or
us
how
Dave's
and
flog
was
burning
money
when
the
contract
with
the
lead
would
advise
a
professional
services
of
being
rendered
in
the
project
of
the
league.
So.
E
Some
of
the
delay
is
why
that
original
budget
went
from
July
to
the
August
September
period.
Why
they're,
not
out
of
money
until
August,
September
Kurt,
instead
of
the
July
period,
is
that
they
were
able
to
not
expend
funds
during
some
of
the
delay.
For
instance,
some
of
the
delay
is
a
weather-related
delay.
The
contract
does
account
for
whether
it
has
a
specific
number
of
days
within
months
for
contract
weather
delays.
If
you
have
more
weather
delays
than
what's
in
the
contract,
then
there's
an
allowance
within
the
contract
to
extend
your
contract
time.
E
So
those
are
those
amounts,
there's
not
much
money
expended
during
those
days,
because
the
project
is
generally
on
hold,
there
might
be
a
minor
inspection,
but
that's
why
the
current
funding
does
stretch
longer
than
originally
anticipated.
The
additional
delays
are
partially
due
to
the
contractor,
not
completing
the
project.
At
the
rate
that
the
contractor
had
projected
to
complete
the
project,
that's
worth
liquidated
damages
would
come
in.
E
That's
a
liquidated
damages
or
a
fee
that
the
contractor
has
to
pay
to
know
if
any,
if
any
other
customers
had
any
heading
questions
about
it,
there
are
also
just
additional
changes
with
the
project.
There
was
a
claim
from
the
contractor
earlier
in
the
project
that
had
some
days
associated
with
it,
and
then
there
are
our
pending
claims
on
the
contract,
as
is
somewhat
usual,
with
a
large
contract
before
they
could
result
in
potential
additional
days,
plus
there's
a
contractor
himself
being
behind
schedule
and
struggling
with
the
actual
work
Thank.
B
G
Sinkings
in
Griffin
just
quickly-
and
you
touched
on
it
very
briefly-
and
we
talked
about
it-
I
think
the
budget
committee,
but
if
we
are
successful
in
collecting
the
contract
contractually
set
out
liquidated
damages
how
much
of
this
change
order
will
be
covered
by
the
liquidated
damages
provision
that
we
get.
Will
we
get
money
sexy
back,
there's.
H
E
Miss
Pam
and
just
while
we're
discussing
schedule
purposes,
I
mean
part
of
the
reason
of
M
of
19
is
on
the
agenda
tonight,
despite
being
on
a
previous
date
on
the
cover
letter
is
because
amendment
19
had
to
go
through
the
capital
review
committee
prior
to
being
able
to
come
to
ways
and
means
for
council
approval
so
that
that's
why
you're,
seeing
that
delay
on
the
contract
is
right
now
we're
on
monthly
meetings.
So
you
have
to
hit
the
previous
Keppler
review
meeting
prior
to
being
able
to
come
to
the
Ways
and
Means
agenda
meeting.
E
E
O
Exactly
we'll
just
need
to
probably
move
the
dates
of
Public,
Works
and
utilities
back
so
that
any
if
there
are
contracts
in
there
that
need
some
some
approvals
from
the
committee.
We've
got
to
do
it
early
enough
so
that
it
then
can
get
on
the
next
City
Council
agenda.
So
we're
not
talking
about
a
two-month.
B
O
K
M
A
F
N
F
E
It
is
not
a
contract,
it's
not
a
contractual
in
date,
that
was
the
original
contractual
end
date
for
the
construction
contract
with
the
professional
services
for
providing
services
to
the
end
dated
a
construction
contract
has
been
extended
due
to
those
additional
contract
days
from
claims
and
weather
days.
So
it's
the
Davis
and
Floyd
work
can
continue
until
the
funds
run
out
rather
than
a
specific
date
within
that
contract.
F
A
G
Okay,
I,
just
I,
want
to
speak
to
that
motion
just
very
quickly.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
if
we're
doing
this,
that
we're
gonna
set
up
a
framework
that
it's
gonna
get
through
committee,
get
to
Ways
and
Means
get
to
hear,
and
so
we
can
get
this
off
our
plate,
get
that
is
employed
back
in
line.
If
that's
what's
gonna
happen
and
get
on
with
it,
okay
I
mean
we
can't
we
just
can't
let
leave
this
out
there
floating.
It's
not
fair
to
us,
not
fair
to
them.
A
Right,
if
I
can
we'll
make
a
couple
quick
comments
and
I
I
agree
a
hundred
percent
with
council
wearing,
and
this
is
what
needs
to
happen.
The
challenge
we
have
and
I
read
the
the
memo
that
mr.
fountain
provided
to
us
and
it
was
sent
that
was
like
most
of
y'all
rushing
down
here,
so
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
go
through.
It
really
in-depth,
but
I
did
get
a
chance
to
review,
but
the
gist
of
it
was
if
I
read
it
correctly,
that
what
we
have
is
a
pattern
of.
A
Wrongdoing
over
time
that
has
allowed
for
contractors,
in
this
case
Davis
employed
to
have
some
comfort
that
if
they
were
to
do
work
based
upon
a
staff
member
saying
yes
we'll
take
care
of
you
and
we'll
get
you
paid
that
that
sort
of
been
the
norm,
and
that
is
wrong
and
by
contract.
That
is
wrong.
Davis
employed
knows
that
and
so
do
we.
A
A
But
what
we
found
was
that
only
when
it
came
to
this
committee-
and
we
started
asking
a
couple
additional
questions,
because
we
found
out,
we
had
a
40
million
dollar
shortfall
on
a
project.
That's
the
largest
drainage
project
that
we've
ever
undertaken
in
the
city
of
Charleston,
and
that's
only
because
this
body
stopped
ways
and
means
said:
wait
a
minute
what's
going
on.
A
We
probably
should
have
done
this
years
ago,
but
we
didn't
so
here
now
we
have
this
massive
void
and
Finance
to
be
able
to
take
care
of
this
and
subsequently
100
million
dollars
into
a
project.
We
can't
stop.
We
have
to
keep
moving
forward,
so
this
is,
in
my
mind,
not
necessarily
specific
bit
of
an
issue
that
we
need
to
be
focused
on
from
just
a
project
level.
This,
in
my
mind,
is
the
fear.
A
We
are
watching
everything
a
little
more
tightly
to
ensure
that
we
don't
have
this
occur
again,
because
if
we
are
so
lucky
to
find
400
million
dollars
to
do
Calhoun,
West
I
don't
even
want
to
think
what
that
shortfall
would
look
like
if
we
don't
get
this
right.
So
with
that
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
more
comments
or
concerns
I'm
going
to
call
for
the
question
again.
The
motion
floor
is
to
deferred,
send
this
back
to
public
works
to
the
next
appropriate
meeting
date.
A
L
G
D
G
A
Enough,
okay,
all
right
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
you
know
as
having
item
12
is
budget
finance
revenue
collections
in
north
or
de
Ninh
s--
amendment
for
the
administration
of
finance
fiscal
procedures
to
add
a
new
section
in
discussion,
and
this
is
associated
with
a
waiver
of
fees
for
city
projects.
A
I
I
just
had
one
and
I'm
not
sure
if
legal
counselor,
who
maybe
can
give
some
guidance
on
this
one
of
the
the
language
itself
sort
of
gave
some
indication
that
that
staff
I
think
it
spoke
to
city
projects,
but
it
almost
looked
like
it
wasn't.
It
didn't
have
to
be
a
wholly
sponsored
City
project
that
it
could
be
something
that
was
sponsored,
maybe
by
other
parties
involved
and
I,
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
find
ourselves
again.
I
I
trust
our
staff,
but
I
don't
want
to
find
another.
A
P
That's
a
good
question:
I
think
the
intent
is
for
it
to
cover
any
city-owned
project,
so
it
would
be
either
paying
for
it
completely
or
substantially.
We
didn't
want
to
include
just
partially
funded
by
the
city,
because
that
might
get
into
some
other
types
of
projects
where
we
might
be
helping
out
with
a
grant
or
something,
and
then
they
were
trying
to
waive
the
fees
for
something
that
we
were
minimally
involved
in.
So
we
changed
the
language
to
substantially
okay.
L
P
P
You
know
just
to
make
it
so
that
it
is
a
city,
controlled
city,
owned
type
of
project
and
I
know
that
reading
just
the
word
substantially
might
be
confusing
and
and
subject
to
some
interpretation,
and
that
refers
back
to
the
CFO.
Having
the
final
say
in
what
projects
do
get
the
waiver
or
not.
So
it
would
require
a
letter
from
our
CFO
to
say
that
that
particular
project
has
the
the
fuse
waived.
Okay,.
A
B
P
It's
a
city,
leased
project
I
mean
it
depends
on
if
the
city
is
really
in
control
of
the
actual
project.
That's
being
done
so
it
doesn't.
It's
not
really
triggered
by
the
fact
that
it's
a
city
owned
property,
it's
more
whether
or
not
the
project
is
funded
by
the
city
or
not,
and
so
I
don't
know
exactly
what
the
details
of
that
particular
project
are
gonna,
be,
but
again
the
CFO
will
be
able
to
review
each
of
these
as
it
comes
through
and
determine
whether
or
not
this
would
be
considered
a
city
project
or
not.
P
B
A
O
D
P
A
A
C
A
Right,
if
there's
no
more
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
those
opposed
you
know
as
having
item
14
s,
approval,
River,
Landing
tariffs,
engineering
study
and
this
one
would
be
for
them
to
ground
wiring
problem,
alright
in
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
yeah
he's
having
item
15,
sparking
capital
projects,
approval
construction
contract
with
Hill
construction
services,
an
amount
of
eight
million
nine
hundred
fifty
eight
thousand
five
or
seven
dollars
for
the
construction
of
the
Daniel
Island
Recreation.
A
L
A
Right
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
those
opposed
yeah
as
have
it,
and
if
I
could
just
take
one
moment
and
thank
you
all.
This
project
has
been
as
y'all
know.
A
work
in
progress
for
twelve
of
my
years
here
on
council
and
and
I
can
assure
you
that
it
would
not
have
happened
without
y'all
support
and
support
of
the
mayor
and
staff,
and
so
thank
you
all
very
much.
I
do
sincerely
appreciate
y'all's
help
and
support
on
getting
this
done
and
I
know
and
I'm.
A
C
You,
mr.
chairman,
let
me
just
report
the
several
items
on
here:
item
a
was
deferred
and
item.
E
was
for
those
who
were
not
ready
the
rest
of
the
items
this
this
run
right
through
him
item
B.
Was
that
agreement
all
the
22
west
edge
through
item
C,
the
police
department,
lease
on
the
James
on
substation,
was
approved
item
D.
The
quarter
use
of
that
property
at
Sumar
Street
was
not
approved.
That
was
voted
down,
and
so
the
recommendation
of
committee
would
be
not
to
approve
that
item
F.
C
That's
at
Washington
Park.
We
basically
asked
legal
staff
to
go
back
and
bring
us
a
written
contract
that
included
the
numbers
that
we
talked
about.
So
we
didn't
really
vote
on
a
number,
but
we
just
hope
that
go
back
and
bring
us
a
contract
for
the
amount
that
we
discussed
and
then
the
2nx
item
annexation
items
were
approved.
So
we
recommend
all
of
those
things
in
real
estate
committee,
the
to
deferral
that
were
approved.
One
denial
right.
A
L
A
Take
that
as
fake
news,
don't
you
worry
about
that
and
I'm
gonna
make
one
quick
comment:
if
I
can
about
item
B
about
the
west
edge
and
I've
been
consistent
from
day,
one
and
I'm
gonna
continue
to
be
consistent.
I
voted
against
it
in
the
real
estate
committee.
I
do
want
to
just
say
for
the
record
that
my
my
my
not
approving
of
the
item
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
digital
corridor
and
their
work
and
certainly
has
nothing
to
do
with
mat
frolic
and
the
work
he
was
doing.
A
They've
done
a
yeoman's
job
to
try
to
find
a
bail
out
for
this
very.
What
I
would
call
poor
decision
process
that
happened
number
of
years
ago.
I
would
have
hoped
that
we
might
have
an
opportunity
to
limit
our
exposure.
Unfortunately,
now
it
looks
like
our
exposure
is
now
going
to
grow
to
almost
two
million
dollars
of
taxpayers
dollars
which
I
am.
It
gives
me
great
pause,
but
we
are
where
we
are
and
it
sounds
like.
Unfortunately,
this
go-around
I
might
be
alone.
I
was
hoping
for
one.