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City of Charleston Ways & Means Meeting - February 12, 2019
A
B
Thank
you.
Would
you
pray
with
me?
Please,
dear
God
would
come
before
you
this
evening,
acknowledging
all
the
many
blessings
that
you
have
bestowed
upon
us
individually
upon
our
city,
state
and
nation.
We're
also
mindful
of,
and
ask
that
you
comfort
and
strengthen
those
that
are
homeless,
suffering,
loss,
illness
and
just
simply
broken
relationships.
B
Lord,
our
city
is
confronted
by
so
many
problems
and
as
we
look
at
these
problems
through
our
eyes,
we
only
see
giant
sand
barriers,
obstacles
that
are
just
insurmountable
and
unsolvable.
It
is
only
when
we
look
at
these
same
problems
through
your
eyes
that
we
find
solutions.
We
need
to
be
reminded
that
in
you
all
things
are
possible,
so
Lord.
We
ask
that
all
things
that
we
think
say
or
do
are
pleasing
your
sight
amen.
Thank
you.
A
Sir
agenda
is
approval
of
the
minutes
for
January,
8th
and
22nd,
and
on
y'all's
desk
is
January
the
22nd.
The
only
change
was
the
date
it
had.
An
error
was
18,
that's
actually
night
team,
but
that's
the
only
change
is
their
motion
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
those
opposed
you
now,
let's
have
it.
I
had
three
bids
and
purchases
in
a
discussion
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
those
opposed.
Now,
let's
have
it
item:
Forest
Police
Department
approval
extension
agreement
between
CPD
in
Charleston.
A
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
those
opposed
as
habit
item
5
is
Police
Department
approval,
a
third
amendment
renewing
an
agreement
between
Charleston
Dorchester,
mental
health
and
CPD
any
discussion
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
guys
have
it
item.
6
is
public
service,
councilman,
Gregory,.
D
I
know
there
was
a
deadline
that
we
had
to
meet:
okay
and-
and
this
is
councilman
white
and
my
pet
peeve
spending
money
without
it
coming
through
this
body,
particularly
when
it
goes
beyond
the
$40,000
rule.
I
really
think
that
we
have
to
make
sure
that
before
they
go
out,
the
council
has
an
opportunity
to
have
discussions
and
determine
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
support
it.
I
mean,
of
course,
we
will
then
I'm
talking
more
about
a
procedural
matter.
It
really
needs
to
come
before
council
before
we
start
spending
our
permitting
dollars.
A
A
F
Yeah,
you
have
an
answer,
these
questions
so
some
of
the
items
and
might
help
jog
in
my
memory,
because
I
got
some
notes
here.
So
some
of
the
items
that
were
moved
from
phase
5
into
phase
or
were
the
the
bar
screens
for
the
for
the
trash
removal
and
also
the
sedimentation
Basin
that
will,
when
the
system
is
D,
watered
it'll,
remove
the
sediment
and
pollutants
to
keep
them
from
going
into
the
river.
A
And
getting
n
I'm
on
this
kind
of
if
I,
could
ask
some
follow-ups
as
we
go
and
I'm
not
an
expert
in
stormwater
engineering,
so
y'all
have
to
when
you
say:
dewatering
you're
talking
specifically
about
the
pump
station
actually
drawing
water
out,
not
the
gravity
fall
component
of
the
of
a
storm
water,
but
the
actual
pump
station
itself.
When
active
with
the
pumps
running.
Okay,.
C
F
Ninety
ninety
five,
ninety
nine
percent
of
the
time
that
tunnel
system
will
remain
in
your
data
because
its
goal
or
its
the
purpose
is
to
convey
water
not
to
not
to
detain
it.
It's
not
for
storage,
it's
for
moving
the
water.
So
if
we
have
a
fully
functioning
system,
we'll
need
the
dewatering
pumps
down
there
to
be
able
to
pull
that
pull,
pull
the
water
all
the
way
down,
because
we
need
to
get
down
there
into
the
system
to
to
maintain
it
or
to
inspect
it.
Okay,.
A
D
A
And
well
so
then
they
go
walk
back
a
little
bit
when,
when
we
last
spoke
at
this
in
ways
and
means
specific
to
phase
five,
it
was
identified
that
there
was
a
gap
in
funding
due
to
overruns
in
cost
to
construct
phase
five,
and
that
was
gonna
leave
a
gap
of
funding
in
the
vicinity
of
thirty
million
dollars.
Now
that
look
that
fun,
that
number
then
subsequently
went
to
forty
million
at
some
point,
so
it's
somewhere
between
thirty
and
forty
million
dollars,
and
so
the
that
that
is
a
massive
hole
to
fill.
A
F
F
C
F
A
And
and
it
it
seems
to
never
be
our
luck
that
we
have
problems
at
low
tide.
You
know
we
always
get
these
massive
storms
come
in
and
you
and
it's
like
and
that,
oh
by
the
way
landfall
is
gonna,
be
at
a
king
tide
I
mean
that's
so
without
the
pump
station.
The
impact
of
this
tunnel
system
is
minimal
at
best
as
a
gravity
station
along.
If.
F
G
D
D
I
F
I
I
F
F
J
G
Yeah
very
good
question,
and
again
my
court
here
with
Davison
Floyd
hope
to
answer
that
there
are
there's
been
similar
questions
at
different
levels
that
we've
done
some
modeling
to
show
those
differences.
Actually
there
is
a
tremendous
benefit,
even
with
the
fluctuating
tides,
without
having
the
large
pumps
in
place
far
recall
correctly,
the
design
event,
a
10-year
design
event.
We
still
have
street
flooding
at
these
higher
tides,
but
you're.
G
Looking
at
about
an
hour
and
a
half
of
flooding,
as
opposed
to
today,
I
think
you
witnessed
full
days
of
flooding
with
the
rainfall
at
any
given
time.
This
gravity
capacity
is
more
than
ten
times
the
capacity
that's
out
there
today
without
the
large
pumps
in
place
and
without
phase
5
being
completely
so
it's
a
significant
upfit
if
you
will
or
increase
systems
capacity
or
today
you
follow
up
that.
J
Let
me
this
follow
up,
I,
think
what
you
saying
to
us.
So
it's
high
tide
we've
either
got
a
heavy
rainstorm
of
some
sort
or
some
other
kind
of
flooding
problem
that
we're
dealing
with
now
water
is
going
into
into
that
tunnel
and
it's
going
to
be
retained
ale.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
benefit
because
the
water
has
someplace
to
go
besides
remaining
on
on
the
street
or
on
surface
that
might
hand
you
correctly
than
that.
J
F
J
F
A
Is
there's
gonna
be
water
in
those
tunnels?
All
the
time
well,
wet
I
know
that
so
it's
not
gonna
be
enough.
I
think
I
think
where
you're
going
is
when
the
water
is
sitting
on
the
streets
today
with
this
tunnel,
will
it
be
able
to
fill
the
tunnel
up
and
sit
there
until
the
tide
goes
out
and
the
reality
is
if
it's
already
halfway
full,
because
it's
not
been
D
watered,
it's
really
not
gonna
be
a
place
to
retain
water.
It's
not
going
to
take
water
off
the
street
until
that
tide
turns
not
correct.
J
K
K
Second
question:
mr.
mayor,
you
met
with
the
governor
and
he
really
I
saw
an
interview
where
he
said
it's
got
to
get
done.
Did
he
offer
any
insight
into
what
he
thought
of
the
project
or
whether
the
SIB
would
be
willing
to
give
us
any
more
money
or
anything
like
that
in
the
state?
Could
they
offer
any
more
money
or
any
help
on
this
project?
You
know
was
that
brought
up
at
all?
Well,.
L
He
did
and
and
I
was
going
to
share
with
you
that
I
didn't
tell
him
until
we
were
down
a
hundred
and
forty
feet
of
the
surface
until
he
agreed
to
help
us
not
I
didn't
have
to
do
that.
So
when
we
got
it
back
out
and
one
of
the
reporters
had
been
down
in
the
tunnel
with
us
asked
the
government
he
said
governor,
the
mayor
was
kind
of
joking
about
letting
you
out.
You
know
unless
you
agreed
to
some
some
additional
funding.
He
said
there
was
no
joke
about
it.
L
He
supports
that
we
plan
to
submit
a
proposal
for
some
funding
from
that
mitigation.
Those
funds
I
believe
we'll
have
it
off
to
to
the
governor's
office
by
the
end
of
next
week.
The
way
I
view
it,
though
I
today,
the
truth
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
is
that
in
round
numbers,
the
shortfall
of
this
whole
project
kind
of
falls
to
phase
five
phase.
Four.
If
we
approve
this
and
it
proceeds,
we
will
have
a
functioning
system
which
is
more
than
a
little
bit
better
than
what
we
got
now.
L
I
think
Mike
just
said,
the
flow
rate
would
be
ten
times
what
our
current
situation
is
now
so
be
a
huge
improvement,
admittedly,
to
fully
function
at
high
tide.
We
want
to
power,
so
so
the
shortfall
basically
Falls
to
phase
five
and
and
it
will
be
I
think,
two
years
before
we
would
even
come
back
to
Council
with
the
engineering
and
the
bid
for
phase
five.
In
the
meantime,
between
governor
McMaster
and
the
state
of
South
Carolina
and
our
partnership
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers,
we've
got
to
find.
L
We
just
got
to
find
state
and
federal
funds
to
help
us
and
I
really
appreciate
the
leadership
of
the
governor
in
many
respects.
At
this
point,
not
just
helping
us
get
526
completed
but
forming
a
flood
water
commission,
which
he
has
a
real
statewide
view
on
on
dealing
with
the
issue
of
flood
waters.
But
his
comment
coming
out
of
the
tunnel
was
in
fact
the
cost
of
not
doing
this
finishing.
This
project
is
extraordinary,
and
so
yes,
he's
committed
to
helping
us
find
some
money.
I
know.
K
C
D
L
M
Just
need
to
clarify
I
think
these
are
going
to
be
yes
or
no
answer,
one
where
the
pumps
included
in
the
projected
shortfall.
As
we
know
right
now,
phase
five
pumps,
yes,
okay,
so
we
got
40
million.
You
got
a
fine
great
thanks,
Suzy,
and
that
includes
the
pump
and
that's
what
we
got
to
find.
That
I
mean
five
is
supposed
to
end
in
two
years,
so
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
time
to
go
find
money.
M
G
Necessarily
there
saw
conduits
being
put
into
the
concrete
structure
of
the
foundation,
obviously,
as
inherently
provided
through
this
so
they're
their
components
that
go
to
facilitate
construction
service
function,
but
there's
no
real
work
going
on
that
has
no
value,
I,
guess,
there's
very
little
work
going
on
that
has
little
value
at
the
current
completion
state
right
other
than,
for
instance,
conduits,
or
something
that
needs
to
be
put
in
to
lessen
the
cost
burden
on
phase
5
right.
If
you
chose
to
leave
those
things
out,
you
would
have
a
significant
total
project
cost
okay,.
A
And
I
guess
where
I
was
going
with,
that
is:
are
there
opportunities
to
do
any
value
engineering
at
this
point
in
phase
4
to
help
any
carryover
into
phase
5
to
help
shore
up
some
of
that
gap,
and
then
in
phase
5?
Have
we
contemplated
starting
working
on
value
engineering
that
knowing
the
gap
that
exists.
F
N
G
The
the
contractor-
that's
the
parent.
The
low
bid
contractor
today
has
issued
a
letter
where
they
found
somewhere
on
the
order
of
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
or
more
of
savings
it
might
be
offered.
There
is
a
contract
provision
for
a
cost
reduction
proposal
that
can
be
exercised,
but
I
think
from
the
standpoint
of
order
of
magnitude
that
that's
what
we're
looking
at
is
something
over
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
cost
figure,
but.
A
F
A
And
and
I
guess,
my
point
in
asking
these
questions
is
this:
is
that
you
know
I
think
it's
become
abundantly
clear
that,
although
phase
four
creates
a
gravity
system,
that's
better
than
what
we
have
today,
it's
clearly
not
what
the
hundred
plus
million
dollar
project
was
intended
to
do,
which
is
phase
five
and
so
I.
Don't
think,
there's
any
disagreement
here
that
we
want
a
C
phase
five
completed
and
bring
this
to
its
full
capacity
to
handle
flooding
problems.
My
challenge
is
we
I've
still
yet
to
hear
definitively.
A
Somebody
tell
me
where
we're
going
to
get
the
money
to
do
phase
five
and
before
we
sign
off
on
phase
four
I
really
feel
compelled
that
we
need
to
find
some
opportunities
for
value
engineering.
Whatever
comes
out
of
phase
four
can
then
help
offset
five
and
then
we're
at
value.
Engineer,
phase
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I
can
appreciate
that,
but
that's
not
even
a
rounding
error
on
a
hundred
million
dollar
project,
and
so
we've
got
to
dig
deeper
and
find
better
ways
and
more
substantial
ways
to
find
some
opportunities
for
cuts.
B
I
just
want
to
be
sure
and
I
think
most
of
this
is
directed.
Maybe
it
did
Amy
that
I
understand
the
numbers.
I
I
get
the
four
to
five.
We've
moved
some
of
5
over
2,
for
we
I've
understood
that
there
was
a
few
million
dollars
worth
of
enhancements
that
were
added
into
the
same
was
two
or
four
that
were
just
the
enhancement.
B
B
Million
dollars
in
just
it
I
thought
that
number
came
was
not
like
two
billion
dollars
in
their
last
meeting,
but
maybe
not
then
the
other
thing
was.
My
understanding
was
that
we
were
41
million
dollars
short
26
on
4
and
15
on
5.
That
was
it.
51
million
dollars
come
in
other
than
the
contract,
we're
getting
ready
to
sign
and.
B
H
B
B
B
We
got
a
whole
long
list
of
projects
that
are
in
the
queue
already
for
drainage
all
over
this
city,
and
what
you
told
me
earlier
was
that
those
projects
that
we
have
in
the
queue
that
there's
money
left
in
there
to
fund
those
projects
over
this
some
period
of
time
here,
so
we're
not
going
to
anything,
that's
in
the
queue
is
going
to
be
funded.
That's.
B
B
So
we're
talking
four
years,
we
got
four
years
out
that
we
have
no
money
to
take
on
a
new
project.
That's
a
problem
and
we
haven't
even
talked
about
number
five.
But
having
said
all
of
that,
what
about
some
of
the
other
I'm
thinking
specifically
about
like
the
Calhoun
West
project?
We
got
six
million
dollars
set
aside
for
that.
Would
that
be
available,
because
that
project
is
way
on
out
there
somewhere
is
some
of
that
kind
of
money
being
available
for
something
like
this?
B
H
Can,
depending
on
how
much
these
were
already
under
contract
with
Davis
employer
calhoun
west
and
how
much
that
cost
us?
If
there
were
some,
if
we
didn't
use
all
of
that
six
million
dollars,
and
yes,
some
of
that,
could
be
diverted
to
another
project.
And
then
you
know
we
can
look
at
all
the
projects
and
you
know,
maybe
you
don't
do
one.
You
do
a
different
one.
I,
don't
you
know?
That's
really.
What
we
would
have
to
do
is
sit
down
and
look
at
it
and
prioritize.
B
What
one
of
the
things
that
some
of
the
questions
I
asked
was,
whether
or
not
we
would
have
any
value
engineering
or
any
value,
and
just
asking
for
a
a
third-party
review
of
this
thing
before
we
went
further
and
I
know
we're
somewhat
up
against
a
time
frame
here
in
term
of
agreeing
to
this
contract,
but
I've
got
I'm
kind
of
leaning
towards
support
in
this
contract
with
this
stuff,
but
I
know
that
I'm
gonna
have
to
go
to
my
constituents
and
everybody
else
to
be
ready.
We
got
no
money
to
do
anything
else.
I.
O
O
O
F
O
O
O
Our
CFO
MS
Wharton
much
as
we
love
them.
We
need
more
information
on
what
this
eighteen
million
our
drainage
projects
is
costing
us
as
a
council
person
sitting
here.
I,
don't
know
what
projects
going
out
for
you
that
will
be
eliminated,
for
example,
for
some
reason,
I
don't
think
this
is
on
there,
but
the
five
million
to
do
King
and
ug.
If
that's
one
of
the
projects,
that's
gonna
be
a
limit.
I
know
it's
not,
but,
for
example,
we
would
have
the
right.
O
We
would
have
the
right
to
know
that,
okay,
because
we
would
vote
different.
We've
got
projects
since
1984
that
were
not
funded
in
this
city.
That
we
know
may
affect
Davis
of
Floyd.
Did
that
study
councilmembers,
just
like
myself
and
the
mayor,
just
like
the
one
sitting
there,
we
didn't
raise
taxes
to
generate
the
revenue
to
put
those
fixes
in
place.
We
got
people
flooding
right
now,
because
the
ditch
is
clogged
or
the
pipe
is
too
small
or
combination
of
both.
Now,
what
is
the
sacrifice
that
this
18
million
that
we
are
advancing
on
this?
O
How
many
less
people
are
going
to
continue
to
flood
because
gravity
flow
on
a
ditch
or
pipe?
That's
too
small
that
type
of
information
didn't
provide,
be
provided
to
councilmembers
before
we
revote
this
additional
26
million
dollars,
and
we
have
a
right
to
know
that
we
have
a
right
to
know.
What
is
the
cost
of
these
enhancements
that
we've
been
asking
for
for
six
weeks
that
we
haven't
got.
L
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I,
did
want
to
address
this
kind
of
overarching
issue
of
no
new
projects
and
funding
and
respectfully
as
Wharton,
is
referring
to
the
drainage
fund,
and
we
we
must.
We
must
seek
other
sources.
We
cannot
rely
entirely
on
a
drainage
fund
to
build
our
way
out
of
the
situation
we're
in,
and
so,
as
is
mentioned
in
that
the
sea
level
rise
strategies,
that's
being
presented
to
you
tonight
and
as
we've
discussed
before,
be
it
a
TIF
district,
half
cent
sales
tax
funding
help
from
the
county.
L
There
are
other
projects
that
will
be
able
to
be
accomplished.
You
know,
while
the
while
the
drainage
fund
recovers
or
in
the
case
when,
when
the
county
widens
Glenn
McConnell
and
they
go
right
over
where
we
want
to
connect,
like
daughter,
er
to
the
other
drainage
basin.
On
the
other
side,
those
have
cent
sales
tax
funds
oughta
help
us
pay
for
that
project.
L
L
We
are
unfortunately
councilmember
we're
in
a
little
under
a
gun,
so
to
speak,
because
you
can't
expect
this
vendor
Conti
construction
just
to
hold
their
pricing
forever
and
ever
they've
already
been
kind
enough
to
extend
their
there.
They're
guaranteed
price.
So
to
speak,
to
us
twice
and-
and
we
are
at
the
end
of
that
window-
and
you
know
so
to
delay
further-
would
would
necessitate.
L
We've
been
the
project
out
with
the
with
the
prospect
that
prices
could
could
escalate,
even
more
and
in
timing
of
having
to
go
through
the
procurement
process
as
well
so
I
know.
Other
priorities
need
to
be
made
on.
What's
left
out
there.
We've
been,
we've
been
talking
about
that
for
a
while,
our
contract
manager,
who
I
believe
council
committee
and
the
procurement
committee
is
just
picked.
That
was
going
to
be
one
of
their
number
one
tasks.
To
take
a
fresh
look
at
those
84
1984
recommendations
to
the
master
dangers
plan
and
yeah.
L
L
We,
as
the
governor
said,
the
cost
of
not
getting
this
project
done
is
extraordinary
and
the
the
impact
on
six
hundred
and
fifty
acres
on
the
west
side
of
the
peninsula.
Importantly,
the
main
thoroughfare,
the
septum
of
Clark
Parkway,
the
impact
on
mobility,
the
impact
on
the
hospital
districts.
It's
just
that
important
phase.
Four
will
get
us
a
functional
system
and
much
improved
over
what
we
got
and
it's
a
pathway
to
the
final
completion
and
I
would
ask
Council
to
support
this
matter
tonight.
O
It's
mr.
chairman,
a
couple
of
those
things
were
directed
at
me.
I
would
like
to
respond,
for
example,
the
Calhoun
West.
Yes,
sir
million
dollars
in
that
bond
that
was
issued
in
2012,
the
program
of
work
can
be
amended
and
the
majority
that
six
million
can
be
transferred
to
this
process.
We
know
Calhoun
West
is
going
to
be
more
than
this
project
and
we
don't
have
those
dogs-
yes,
sir,
we're
going
to
have
to
wait
to
get
the
funding
on
that.
O
It
makes
sense
to
take
six
million
from
Calhoun
West
five
million
4
million
put
that
to
spring
fishburne
and
allow
more
monies
to
go
west
of
the
peninsula.
We
have
about
a
million
on
main
and
a
half
right
now
to
do
a
bike
path
from
the
low
line
to
Morrison
Drive
through
an
area
that
we
know
that
floods
that
main
and
a
half
could
go
towards
spring
fishburne
towards
us,
18
million
leaving
more
monies
to
go
towards
projects
west
and
peninsula,
and
let
me
define
West's
Peninsula
West
Ashley,
James,
Allen,
John,
okay.
O
O
L
Thought
that
was
a
dress,
but
I
couldn't
be
wrong.
Well,
that's
the
colleagues
maybe
I
didn't
get,
and-
and
we
came
back
to
Council
ten
days
or
two
weeks
ago
to
ask
if
there
was
anything
out
there
that
y'all
have
asked
about
that.
You
haven't
gotten,
we
we
were
willing
to
meet
with
you
and
provide
you
further
information.
So
I
don't
think
we
heard
back
from
anybody
on
that,
but.
O
L
O
O
A
half
million
on
two
items
that
just
spoke
about
that
would
leave
great
flexibility
instead
of
taking
eighteen
million
out
of
the
drainage
fund
that
can
go
anywhere
across
this
city.
That
would
reduce
that
down
to
a
ten.
If
my
rep
math
is
right,
ten
million
coming
out
of
the
dream
fund-
ten
and
a
half
million
versus
eighteen
me
can
I
have
dreams,
so
example,.
L
K
Think
that
it
would
be
at
least
proper
for
us
to
see
what
those
implications
are.
I
wrote
that,
down
on
my
page
six
point:
two
million
two
thousand
twelve
stormwater
bond
I
mean
we're
talking
about
a
project
that
we
we
had
a
price
tag
on
that's
exceeded
and
we
have
a
project
that
hasn't
even
started
yet
and
and
so
what's
more
of
a
priority,
I
mean
we.
K
We
talk
all
the
time
about
the
limited
revenue
sources
for
programs
off
to
the
peninsula,
certain
areas
off
of
the
peninsula
and,
unfortunately,
you
know
I,
know
the
arguments
we
made.
Oh
well,
we
just
passed
a
tip
for
Church
Street
that
tips
gonna
take
ten
years
to
do
anything,
and
so
we've
got
all
these
projects
all
over
the
rest
of
the
city
that
have
to
be
done
and
we're
gonna
be
struggling
to
find
the
money
we
have
to
be
begging.
K
Other
entities
like
the
county
to
give
us
Greenbelt
funding
or
half
cent
sales
tax
or
whatever
I
mean
I,
don't
see
how
we
could
put
our
faith
in
somebody
else's
hands
and
so
I
mean
I'd
like
to
at
least
know
what
the
implications
are
because
I
mean
just
like.
For
example,
how
did
we
8.5
million
out
of
the
King
Street
gateway
TIF?
Could
we
have
used
a
little
bit
more
money
than
that?
No,
not
possible
okay,
so
you
know
I
at
least
want
to
know.
I
want
to
know
what
the
implications
are.
K
Seventeen
point
eight
million
dollars
right
out
of
the
drainage
fund,
and
that
is
that
that
just
hurts
it
hurts
big-time.
There's
got
to
be
other
ways
to
do
it,
and
what?
If
the
governor
does
give
us
some
money
back,
what's
gonna
happen,
then?
Are
we
gonna
be
able
to
put
that
funding
back
into
our
stormwater
fund,
or
are
we
gonna
have
to
use
it
somewhere
else?
K
If,
because,
if
we're
appropriating
the
money
out
of
the
drainage
fund
today-
and
we
find
out
in
a
few
months
that
the
governor
is
gonna,
give
us
a
grant
or
some
money,
then
how
would
we?
What
would
we
do
then?
And
what
would
our
game
plan
be
there?
Would
we
be
able
to
put
that
take
that
money
back
out
of
the
drainage
fund
that
we're
appropriating
or
we'd
have
to
use
that
money
that
he
gives
us
towards
something
else,
I.
L
K
To
me,
that's
that's
something
that
we
need
to
know.
If
we
sign
off
on
this
money
and
we're
pulling
out
a
drainage
fund,
are
we
gonna
have
a
way
to
credit
it
back
or
are
we
not
I
think
that's
a
big
big
question,
because
there's
other
other
ways
that
we
can
go
out
and
get
money,
but
are
we
gonna
be
able
to
get
that
money
back
again
or
are
we
gonna
be
stuck
until
2023,
with
no
money
in
the
drainage,
fun
begging,
other
people
to
give
us
money
I
just
don't
think.
P
A
P
I
really
appreciate
the
way
that
you
know
this
group
build
on
the
ideas
that
we
share
and
gets
to
a
place
of
appreciating
that
we
have
some
options
and
some
ways
of
looking
at
funds
that
are
a
little
more
fungible
that
maybe
you
know,
we've
been
directed
to
think
about
them.
But
to
be
honest,
we
have
a
decision
right
now
spend
money.
That
is
a
critical
path.
P
I
mean
I
personally
would
never
say
that
we
have
to
not
do
this
in
order
to
wait
to
figure
out
if
we
can
have
some
credit
that
comes
back
to
the
18
and
a
half
million
dollars
that
we
know
we
can
pay
for
out
of
the
drainage.
But
we're
not
gonna
stop
doing
this.
This
project
we're
too
far
in
and
we
need
the
outcome.
You
know
too
too
great
an
extent.
So
I
really
think
that
everything
that
you
all
are
brainstorming
about
our
great
ideas
and
we
should
hold
those
thoughts
and
make
them
work.
P
I
understand
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
strong
water
budget
in
another
month
or
so,
and
you
know
that's
where
we
should
be
looking
at
what
our
priorities
are.
But
this
is
a
priority
and
I
and
I
really
think
that
we
should
be
voting
on
that
fact
tonight
and
let
these
gentlemen
go
off
and
serve
the
city
with
this
project
that
we
have
to
have
councilor.
L
It's
it's
a
it's
a
process
and
and
there's
no
guarantees
just
like
deepening
the
harbor
of
Charleston
252
feet.
There
were
no
guarantees
that
the
federal
government
would
help
fund
the
deepening
they
are,
but
there
was
no
guarantee,
but
the
first
thing
that
had
to
be
done
was
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
had
the
vet
the
project
design
it
and
and
have
it
ready
so
to
speak
and
that's
what
we
are
doing
in
partnership
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
and
it.
N
L
N
Wearing
for
the
low
line
is
concerned,
I
know
we
can't
do
nothing
with
that
right
now,
but
if
we
could
move
that
money
and
put
that
money
into
training
and
at
the
will
of
Council
bring
it
back
to
Council
makes
money,
that's
the
money
we
can
move
the
code,
we
still
hadn't
even
really
got
nothing
started
to
get
you.
You
sweet
that.
So
we've
got
a
few
these
to
be
done
before
you
get
too
low
line
because,
yes,.
L
L
E
E
Dollars
and
be
talking
with
the
money
that
we
need
to
do,
but
we
done
spent
that
money
had
to
spend
all
right
and
I'm
Wanda,
don't
believe
in
throwing
away
money.
So
if
that
money
have
already
been
spent-
and
we
don't
do
anything
at
all
and
we
sit
here
and
sit
here,
then
things
gonna
get
bursts
to
me
that
it
was
the
same
way.
We
did
your
house,
you
start
your
house,
never
20c.
So
this
is
what
I'm
saying
I
understand
everything
that
everyone
is
saying
here,
but
stop
right
now
in
the
middle
stream.
E
When
you
already
spent
this
money
you're
going
forward,
sometime
you're
gonna
have
to
bite
the
bullet.
We
got
to
find
some
money
somewhere
else
to
do
the
rest
of
this.
What's
going
on,
because
I
can't
sit
here
and
say:
ok,
I'm,
just
gonna
not
vote
for
this
and
all
that
might
be
spent.
We
gonna
sit
down
and
wait
and
then
we
come
back
and
things
have
risen
higher
than
it
is
now,
and
then
we
still
don't
have
the
money.
If
you're
still
wait
than
all
this
stuff
have
done
already,
it's
gonna
go
down
the
drain.
E
We
gonna
have
to
pay
twice
as
much
again
to
do
it
again
and
then
we
are
dealing
with
not
our
money.
So
this
is
what
we
have
to
think
about.
It's
not
my
money,
I
mean
it's.
Everyone
was
sitting
in
here
tax
payers,
money
that
we
are
using
with
some
other
grants
that
we
receive
previously.
So
that's
my
dilemma,
but
I
understand
fully
what
everyone
is
saying
here
so
far
using
some
money
and
finding
other
means
of
finding
other
monies
to
do
this.
E
So
if
we
go
ahead
to
prove
this,
then
we
still
can
go,
look
and
still
find
some
money
to
get
space
bye-bye
good.
Our
thing
is
done
and
put
money
back
which
we
need
to
go
to,
but
we
need
to
come
on
and
start
just
let
this
go
on,
because
we
can't
speak
here
to
keep
pondering
and
puttering
and
talking
all
day
long
and
it's
not
do
any
good,
you
know.
So
it
could
be
a
bit
farther
talking
and
saying:
that's
gonna
happen
that
gonna
happen,
but
when
are
we
moving?
We
are
not
moving.
I
Thank
you,
so
I
think
this
is
important
conversation
a
very
important
period
of
time
for
the
issue
of
drainage
throughout
the
city,
doesn't
matter
what
side
of
the
river
you're
on
and
the
implications
of
what
we're
going
to
vote
on
today.
I
think
everyone
needs
to
realize,
and
that
is
this.
This
is
a
project
this
clearly
over
budget.
We
did
expect
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out
ways
to
pay
for
it.
We
don't
have
a
way
to
get
through
phase
five.
I
We're
looking
to
the
future
of
that,
and
one
of
the
things
that's
been
talked
about
around
this
table
is:
let's
go
grab
money
from
other
projects.
Put
it
to
this
one,
the
more
we
take
some
of
those
other
projects
and
put
to
this
one.
The
further
out
those
projects
go
now
without
a
listened
priority,
so
we
can
all
get
around
and
get
behind.
We've
got
a
huge
problem.
The
mayor
used
the
analogy
of
the
harbor
deepening.
We
spent
a
bunch
of
money
up
front
on
the
Harper
Deep
Harbor
deepening
to
do
what
to
design
it.
I
So
when
we
went
to
the
federal
government
and
asked
them
to
go
fund
a
massive
project,
we
showed
them
what
we
were
doing.
There
is
no
way
we
can
do
it
the
mayor's
assessed
and
go
to
other
funding
sources,
I,
don't
care
where
it
is
at
the
county,
the
state,
the
feds,
the
private
sector
and
ask
them
to
fund
projects
that
we
haven't
won,
prioritized
and
to
aren't
ready
to
go
with,
don't
have
a
design,
and
so,
if
you
take
money
from
every
other
project,
that's
out
there
right
now
and
go
fund.
I
This
just
be
right.
Where
that
we
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
funding
from
an
aerial.
So
if
we
can't
show
them
what
we're
gonna
do
and
in
what
order,
and
that's
our
challenge
and
now's
the
time
to
do
it
now's
the
time
this
clearly
has
to
go,
we
got
to
get
it
going.
We
can't
put
a
big
tunnel
underneath
the
major
artery
going
across
our
city,
the
septima
Clark
Parkway
and
shut
it
down,
but
everyone's
got
to
realize
that
right
now
we
can't
also
shut
down
our
ability
to
seek
other
funding
sources.
I
We
can't
take
money
away
from
all
other
projects.
It
doesn't
matter
what
side
Church
Creek
clearing
ditches
in
West
Ashley
Calhoun
West.
We
have
to
have
a
plan,
we
have
to
have
a
priority
and
we
have
to
have
a
design
in
order
to
get
other
people
to
play
with
us
we're
going
to
trade
on
the
importance
of
these
projects
only
if
we
can
prioritize
and
identify
and
have
them
planned.
So
we
got
to
do
this,
it's
painful,
but
we
can't
shut
everything
down
everything
else
down
to
do
it.
I
So
I
would
just
be
careful
about
that
as
we
think
about
going
forward,
because
we
can't
wait
to
2023
to
wrap
everything
back
up.
Look
for
money
to
design
prioritize,
then
we're
looking
at
2030
and
I
see
mark
Wilbert
in
the
back,
shake
and
has
said
in
the
affirmative,
not
the
negative
he's.
The
one
who's
dealing
with
this
every
day
and
I
think
he
would
agree
with
that
and
we're
gonna
hear
from
him
some
more
tonight
so
priority
and
don't
shut
everything
down
on
the
design
side.
B
House,
I
really
wanted
to
say
what
everybody
says
about
the
s4
and
I
think
we
need
to
separate
these
things
out
and
I
guess.
My
question
is:
when
we
the
last
sentence
here,
the
funding
sources
for
this
state
infrastructure,
bank,
the
King
Street
tip
and
the
drainage
fun
is
this:
does
that
lock
in
those?
Can
we
put
something
else
in
there
that
doesn't
commit
that
raise
funds
but
makes
it
available?
I
mean
I?
B
Think
we've
got
to
go
out
and
my
colleague
over
here
from
downtown
when
he
says
we
got
to
keep
all
this
money,
so
we
planned
a
project.
So
far,
all
those
projects
are
leaving
money
that
they
plan
downtown,
but
we're
taking
out
of
the
drainage
fund
is
everybody
else's.
So
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
around
that
about
how
those
parties
are
exactly
how
that
money
is
being
spent,
but
I
think
we
also
need
to
move
ahead
on
this
on
this
phase.
B
J
You
mr.
chairman
I
think
to
boil
this
down
just
to
something
very
simple:
what
we
have
is
a
project,
that's
too
big
to
fail
and
that's
what
I
think
council
member
of
rituals
talking
about
we've
invested
so
much
money,
and
so
much
time
and
they're
saying
we
can't
let
it
fail
and
what
we're
doing
in
another
simplistic
term
is
robbing
from
Peter
to
pay
Paul.
J
J
I've
got
in
mind
my
mind,
this
photograph
that
was
taken
and
I
think
around
July
20th
when
we
had
a
heavy
rain
and
those
motorists
were
stranded
on
the
September
Clark
roadway,
and
that
was
because
the
project's
not
functional
and
that's
going
to
happen
again
so
I,
don't
like
it
I'm,
not
happy
with
all
this.
What
I
want
to
see
happen
that
we
vote
on
this
thing
and
we
approve
it
and
I
want
communication.
J
I
mentioned
this
to
you
before
that
we
need
to
have
communication
with
the
our
public
service
committee
so
that
we
get
regular
updates
on
this
project
and
all
other
major
projects,
and
it
just
built
in
policy
that
this
comes
before
committee.
We
know
what's
going
on
and
when
council
emma.ware
and
asked
about
enhancements,
we
get
an
answer
about
enhancements.
J
When
we
get
a
question
about
overruns,
we
get
a
question
about
over
lines
and
we're
told
about
this
stuff
in
advance
so
that
ten
years
down
the
road
or
four
years
down
the
road
or
three
years
down
the
road,
we're
not
blindsided
by
a
project
is
too
big
to
fail
and
we're
caught
with
the
price
tag
on
this
thing
and
we
got
to
pay
the
bill.
So
I
want
to
commitment
that
if
we
prove
this
thing
tonight,
which
I
hope
we
could,
we
approve
it
that
we
get
regular
updates
before
the
Service
Committee.
J
N
M
M
We
can
say:
yes,
I'm
really
excited
about
these
enhancements,
because
about
six
eight
weeks
ago
we
were
told
in-
and
one
of
the
enhancements
was
taking
something
that
we
had
put
in
two
years
ago
out
and
putting
something
better
in
that
was
an
enhancement
in
the
world.
In
my
contract
law,
that's
not
an
enhancement,
that's
called
latent
defect
and
guess
who
gets
to
pay
it
ain't
us?
We
don't
pay
to
fix
somebody
else's
meza,
whether
it's
Navis
employed
or
the
contractor.
M
You
know
I,
don't
know
why
we
would,
but
somebody
put
the
wrong
thing
in
making
it
a
requirement
to
go,
fix
it
and
that's
not
an
enhancement
guys.
That's
that
was
an
unknown
defect
when
it
was
put
in
to
us
in
our
contract
people,
then
that's
why
we
have
great
lawyers.
So
I
see
the
money
is
here.
M
We
can't
stop
the
progress
that
I
can
see,
but
we
can
sure
not
get
blindsided
begin
by
the
overage
and
I
think
what
my
colleagues
are
saying
here
keeps
us
abreast
of
the
money
and
what
progress
we're
making
on
getting
the
final
funds,
and
if
we
can
do
that,
we've
got
a
year
or
so
and
then
we
can
really
Ratchet
it
up.
There'll
be
a
new
council
by
then
you
know
who
knows
what's
gonna
happen,
I
sure
know,
but
I
don't
see.
I
see
this
as
a
ain't,
no
choice!
D
D
D
Complete
this
project,
but
I
still
ask
at
what
cost
mr.
mayor
we've
got
to
do
something
in
Council
for
the
people
on
the
island.
They
really
do.
We
haven't
invested
over
there
at
all,
so
I
just
think
it's
time
for
us
to
bite
the
bullet,
put
our
big
britches
on
okay
and
take
care
of
this
issue,
but
not
at
the
expense
of
letting
for
40
and
50
years.
Mr.
mayor,
we
cannot
continue
to
do
that.
I,
don't
know.
What's
left
in
the
stormwater
budget,
we're
talking
about
developing
a
budget
for
this
year.
L
We
have
we
approved
a
stormwater
budget
Council,
you
know
before
the
end
of
the
year
with
that
included
our
our
department,
our
maintenance.
Importantly,
we
increase.
We
hired
two
new
projects.
They
started
work
today.
That
was
all
a
part
of
our
regular
operating
stormwater
budget
right.
What
what
what
I
hear
is
discussing
this
evening
is
the
priorities
for
our
future.
If
you
will
capital
project
stormwater
budget,
that's
what
I'm
talking
about.
D
And
that's
all
I'm
talking
about
stuff
yeah.
The
jury
needs
budget
yeah,
that's
all
I'm
talking
about
and
I've
got
I
know.
My
council
members
on
the
island
agrees
with
me.
We've
got
to
find
some
dollars
for
the
Iowan.
We
cannot
continue
to
ignore
the
island
and,
as
a
result,
property
values
start
going
down.
The
cost.
O
I'll,
be
brief,
I,
don't
think
I
heard
anybody
say
we
not
going
to
do
the
project.
I
certainly
didn't
say
that
my
question
was
we
read
in
the
drainage
fund
and
there's
additional
sacrifices
to
be
made.
That
would
not
let
the
areas
west
of
the
peninsula
that's
been
waiting
since
1984
go
on
Thunder.
That's
my
point:
we've
got
money
parked
that
could
be
utilized
and
there.
A
Let
me
make
maybe
a
quick
comment:
if
I
can
so
the
I
think
the
biggest
challenge
that
I
have
as
I
as
I
read
this
and
looked
at
this
and
we've
now
debated
this
going
over
several
months.
Is
that
as
we've
identified,
we
can't
stop
now.
You've
got
a
hundred
million
dollars
worth
of
project.
That,
basically,
is,
you
know,
does
nothing
at
this
point,
so,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
have
to
do
something
I
think
the
challenge
becomes
is
what
is
that
something?
And
how
do
we
pay
for
that
something?
A
A
My
point
is
this:
I
hey,
if
I
heard
you
Steve
correctly
within
the
existing
contract,
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
find
ways
to
look
potentially
the
value
engineer,
opportunities
out
of
hiss,
which
may
include
some
of
the
enhancements
or
other
things,
but
that's
within
the
existing
contract
that
currently
stands
that
we
are
under
potentially
with
this
this
group.
What
does
that
process?
Look
like.
F
Once
the
contract
is
forward
once
it
once
it
is
awarded,
the
contractor
will
look
present
some
value
engineering.
Some
costs
of
presented,
cost
savings
proposal
to
the
city
under
the
CNI
contract.
The
design
engineer
will
review
those
cost
savings
proposals
fully
vet
them
as
far
as
whether
or
not
they
are
acceptable,
whether
they
are
not
acceptable
and
then
the
cost
savings
is
split
between
the
city
and
the
contractor.
So.
A
There's
some
some
gain
for
them
if
they
in
fact
find
some
ways
for
us
to
yes,
sir
okay,
let's
you
know
that,
certainly
in
my
opinion,
if
we're
to
move
forward
with
this
tonight,
that
is
a
must.
That's
a
nope,
no
questions.
We've
got
to
institute
that
process
immediately
before
the
this
project
really
gets
completed
or
moving
forward
through
phase
four
and
I
do
think,
and
I
heard
some
other
conversations
about
finding
alternative
sources,
I'm
very
concerned
of
draining
the
the
drainage
funding
for
the
future.
You
know
we
talked
about
that.
A
A
lot
of
the
problems
that
we
have
in
our
neighborhoods
are
because
the
drains
aren't
wide
enough
they're
clogged
up.
We
need
check
valves.
This
is
the
stuff
that
eighteen
and
a
half
million
dollars
can
help
fund
and
we're
getting
ready
to
write
a
check
to
say,
but
not
until
2023
I
think
we
really
have
to
consider
those
two
things.
So
I
don't
know.
If,
if
we
will,
somebody
wants
to
entertain
a
motion
to
amend
their
their
their
motion,
but
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
those
two
components
are
included
in
this.
C
C
B
A
N
O
I'll
call
for
the
question:
I
promise
yeah.
You
know
we
almost
need
to
put
an
ad
hoc
committee
together
on
the
other
sources,
the
work
out
and
work
with
Miss
Wharton
with
some
of
the
other
funders
as
I
call
it
sacrifice,
prices
can
be
means
not
to
deplete
the
drainage
fund.
It
worked
very
well
with
the
budget.
I
think
it
could
work
very
well.
A
G
A
G
A
All
right
so
we'll
amend
that
we
will
that
the
ad
hoc,
Budget
Committee
will
reconvene
to
review
the
funding
sources
for
for
this
outside
of
the
SIB
and
the
tip
money.
Thank
you
all
right,
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
opposed
now
is
have
it
now
I'm
going
to
back
up
one
second
and
I
just
wanted
we,
the
item
eight
was
deferred,
but
we
need
to
also
get
for
public
works
when
they
meet
an
answer
on
Bevin
was
to
further
or
excuse
me,
I'm.
A
Sorry,
seven
was
deferred
because
that's
a
500,000
dollar
bill
hanging
out
there
that
was
not
authorized
to
be
paid
and
that
nice
I
think
go
back
to
public
works
and
get
some
answers
on
that.
But
I
won't
hold
us
up
tonight
for
that
all
right:
number:
ten
legal
department,
that's
approval
of
Miranda
understanding
between
Historic
Charleston
foundation,
city
of
Charleston,
not
to
exceed
$225,000
for
the
Dutch
dialogues,
all
right
any
discussion,
surely
you.
Q
Know
I
I've
been
a
fan
of
the
Dutch
dialogues,
but
we've
got
you
know
in
in
the
church,
Creek
drainage
basin.
Right
now
we
did
this
church
Creek
drainage
basin,
study,
of
course-
and
you
know
number
one
on
that
thing-
was
that
we
needed
to
put
in
storm
surge
gates
on
there.
It
was
gonna
cost
1.5
million
dollars.
We
still
don't
have
any
idea
where
one's
gonna
come
from
now.
Councilman
Griffin
did
a
great
job
of
being
able
to
bring
us
some
money
to
do.
One
of
the
faith.
Q
The
dut
file
as
much
as
I
like
them,
are
just
another
study
and
we're
not
completing
the
church,
Creek
drainage
basin
study
that
we've
got
right
now.
We
need
to
allocate
our
funds
to
go,
I
mean
here.
We
are
we've
depleted
our
drainage.
We
have
no
idea
where
our
money's
gonna
come
from
on
the
study.
That's
already
been
done
now.
We're
gonna
pay
for
another
study.
B
So
I
wasn't
sure
to
me
it
was
just
a
weird
agreement
and
it
is
to
be
another
study.
I
mean
last
time.
We
did
something
like
this.
It
was
the
West
Ashley
revitalization
and
it
was
a
three
hundred
and
fifty
dollar
budget
and
it
cost
us
a
half
million
dollars
of
who
had
got
some
folks
outside
to
pay
for
it.
That
seemed
to
make
it
okay,
but
it
wasn't
okay,
but
anyway,
I
just
I
got
some
questions
about
this
whole
whole
operation.
Miss
me
so.
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This
this
Memorandum
of
Understanding,
with
a
very
fine
partner,
the
Historic
Charleston
foundation,
is,
is,
is
designed
to
have
them,
help
us
care
and
carry
the
weight
here,
a
little
bit
carrying
the
burden
and
I'm
pleased
to
share
well.
Let
me
first
say
that
the
total
cost
is
is
right
at
400
$25,000
for
this
endeavor
already,
the
Historic
Charleston
Foundation
has
pledged
25,000
medical
university
has
pledged
25,000.
The
Nature
Conservancy
has
played
pledged,
$25,000
and-
and
some
of
these
who
have
actually
received
the
funds
and
Charleston
water
system
has
also
already
pledged
25,000
as
well.
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You
know
if,
if
we
were
to
spend
our
full
225
commitment,
it's
it's
my
belief
with
those
other
pledges
that
are
anonymous,
that
in
fact,
we
will
end
up
spending
less
than
the
total
to
25.
Let
me
just
say
this
about
this
whole
process
and
the
Dutch
dialogue
and
councilmember
Gregory
and
seeking
of
course,
went
with
me
on
the
trip
to
the
Netherlands.
It's
it's
really
a
different
mindset
of
thinking
about
managing
water
and,
frankly,
the
church.
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Creek
drainage
basin
is
a
perfect
example,
because
we
did
a
fine
study
with
Weston
and
Sampson
and
and
and
from
a
engineering
point
of
view.
Those
are
all
great
recommendations,
but
this
is
our
opportunity
to
take
I
admit
another
look,
but
a
good
look,
an
important
look,
and
maybe
a
different
way
of
thinking
about
how
to
manage
water
there
and
and
for
a
good
example,
and
a
couple
of
landowners
have
come
forward,
proposing
the
use
of
property
for
serious
sizable
retention
area
within
the
drainage
basin,
and
so
there's
a
very
real
possibility.
L
If
you
think
about
this
drainage
basin
a
little
differently
that,
instead
of
paying
for
twenty
seven
million
dollar
pump
system,
that
if
we
do
it
in
a
more
natural
way
and
use
some,
it
would
require
some
real
estate
to
to
hold
and
manage
water
that
that
we
could
save
considerably
on
what
mr.
Horner
had
suggested
to
us.
In
that
study
and
and-
and
we
have
the
opportunity
in
fact
to
do
that.
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Memorandum
calls
for
the
Historic
Charleston
foundation
to
continue
to
raise
money.
If
we
raised
four
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand,
for
example,
it
would
cost
city.
Nothing
I'd
only
expect
that
to
happen,
but
it's
they
they.
They
have
a
couple
of
very
strong
prospects
that
that
are
interested
in
major
funding.
For
for
for
this
initiative
forward,.
K
A
Hey
pop
I
just
come
because
I
want
to
I
do
want
to
move
us
along
make
one
quick
comment:
I'll
call
to
put
a
question
y'all
know
all
my
y'all
know
my
opinion,
studies
and
we've
studied
until
we
can
study
no
more.
In
my
opinion,
and
in
reality
is
we've
now
studied
Church
Creek
we've
got
the
Tarble
Corps
of
Engineers
study
we're
talking
about
doing
another
study.
A
We
study,
study,
study,
study,
study,
it's
time
for
us
to
start
doing
and
stop
studying
we're
going
to
find
out
that
they
may
have
some
great
ideas
that
we
can't
afford.
So
why
don't
we
just
take
the
money
and
go
fix
some
of
the
things
that
we
know
that
we
have
problems
with.
My
comments
have
nothing
to
do
with
Historic
Charleston
foundation.
That
is
tremendous
that
they're
willing
to
partner
and
participate.
A
This
way
a
private
group
willing
to
come
in
and
work
with
us
is
tremendous
and
raising
money
for
something
like
this,
so
it
no
means
no
means
should
my
comments
be
taken
against
the
store
across
the
foundation,
their
willingness
to
participate,
but
it
just
can't
simply
continue
to
support
doing
more
studies.
All
right,
I
will
call
for
the
question,
so
we
can
move
on.
That's
all
right.
Just.
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That's,
that's,
that's
a
no
which.
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B
You,
mr.
chairman,
we
met
this
afternoon.
We
had
several
items:
I'll
go
through
them,
real,
quick.
The
first
item
was
the
authorization
for
the
underground
wiring
at
the
new
fire
station
on
the
highway
70
and
the
memorial
over
there.
That
was
approved
for
information,
the
Longborough
exchange
agreement.
If
you
remember,
we
had
a
an
issue
several
years
ago
about
that
the
HOA
there
is
agreement,
a
tentative
agreement,
that's
going
back
to
the
HOA
at
Longborough
and
just
real
quick
there's,
a
six
tenths
of
an
acre,
that's
going
to
be
a
passive
park.
B
There
it'll
be
maintained
and
police
by
the
city,
they'll
be
very
minimum
parking,
but
there's
no
reservation:
it's
not
reserved
for
the
public
or
the
homeowners.
There
will
be
six
days
used
by
the
HOA.
They
will
give
us
the
six
days
that
it'll
be
just
for
them
and
we
will
both
agree
to
that.
There's
going
to
be
constructed,
there's
a
pier
there
now
I
believe,
but
it's
going
to
be
torn
down,
then
we'll
be
up
here
and
there'll.
B
B
There
will
be
some
Marsh
around
that
property
that's
being
donated
by
the
beach
company
to
the
city,
so
that
will
be
part
of
ours
there.
There
will
be
some
naming
rights
on
the
park.
I
know
that
councilmember
Gregory
has
recommended
a
name
we'll
pass
that
along,
but
we
both
have
to
approve
the
naming
of
that,
and
this
is
the
framework
of
the
agreement
that
it's
going
to
the
HOAs
board
for
their
proof.
Well
shortly,
it'll
come
back
to
us.
B
The
final
version
of
that
should
come
back
to
us
at
our
second
meeting
in
March,
so
we've
kind
of
come.
This
thing
got
whether
it's
going
to
be
private
or
public.
So
I
think
we've
made
a
good
inroad
into
that.
We
got
an
update
on
the
Charleston
Technology
Center,
that's
the
digital
core.
Building
going
up
at
nine.
Ninety
seven
I
think
Morrison
Drive,
the
one
accent
annexation
was
approved.
We
did
go
into
executive
session
to
talk
about
the
Middleborough
development,
to
receive
legal
advice
on
that
no
action
was
taken.
That's
my
report
for.