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City of Charleston Committee on Ways and Means 02/28/23
A
C
A
The
February
14th
2023
moved
in
properly
seconded
any
discussions,
questions
if
not
all
in
favor,
say
aye
the
eyes
have
it
on
bids
and
purchases.
Before
we
move
forward
with
the
motion,
3B
from
the
recreation
department
has
been
withdrawn.
They
want
to
do
a
little
more
work
on
it,
so
we
won't
be
voting
on
3B
on
the
bids
and
purchases.
Do
I
hear
a
motion
moved
in
properly
seconded
any
discussions,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
the
eyes
have
it
item
four
Papua.
A
Do
I
hear
a
second
moved
improperly
seconded
any
discussion
on
item
four
Housing
and
Community
Development,
the
hopper
Grant,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
the
eyes
have
it
item
five
cultural
Affairs,
so
the
both
of
them
moved
in
properly
seconded
that
we
take
five
and
six
together,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
all
right
now,
let's
vote
on
five
and
six
do
I
hear
a
motion
moved
in
properly.
Second,
it
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
item
seven.
B
E
I
I
had
a
great
conversation
with
Chief
Reynolds,
as
well
as
plenty
of
community
members
who
are
who
are
interested
in
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
the
the
racial
bias
audit
and
a
research
agreement
with
the
University
of
South
Carolina,
a
professor
there
to
provide
some
the
the
independent
auditing
work
of
what
the
police
department's
done,
that
the
the
racial
bias
audit
called
for
I
Chief
Reynolds
committed
to
presenting
the
data
that
we
talked
about
at
the
last
meeting
at
a
committee
at
a
public
safety
committee
meeting
in
April,
I
I
think
that's
awesome,
I
I,
just
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
going
to
raise
about
this,
was
that
you
know
we're
asking
somebody
to
independently
audit
data.
E
That's
not
publicly
available
for
anybody
else
to
take
a
look
at
and
have
disagreements
with,
and
so
I
I
truly
appreciate
the
the
transparency
there
I
think
that's
fantastic
I
know
that
people
do
have
questions
about
the
person
who
was
chosen
to
do
this.
E
I
I
would
suggest
that
this
goes
to
the
Public
Safety
Committee
meet
or
Public
Safety
Committee
give
public
a
chance
to
weigh
in
I.
Don't
think
that
two
weeks
is
gonna
is
gonna
kill.
This
deal
I
know
that
there
was
some
sensitivity
about.
If
we
extend
this
out,
maybe
you
know
maybe
USC
wouldn't
be
interested
in
going
forward
anymore
and
I
know
that
the
other
bid
that
came
in
was
was
way
way
over
72
930
000.,
so
I
am
sensitive
to
the
cost
about
this.
E
Certainly,
but
I
just
I
think
that
a
better
process
would
be
to
take
it
to
the
Public
Safety
Committee
meet
or
Public
Safety
Committee
meeting
in
two
weeks
now.
Having
said
that,
I
do
really
want
to
thank
Chief
Reynolds
for
reaching
out
and
and
responding
to
some
of
the
questions
I
had
last
week
and
I
feel
a
lot
more
comfortable
with
this
than
I
would
have
coming
here
today.
Without
that,
so.
A
B
Yes,
sir
Mr
chairman
I
see
that
Steve
rumlin
is
present
with
us
and
I'd
like
to
see
if
he
can
answer
some
questions
for
us
about
I
think
he
was
internally
involved
with
this
process
and
likewise
I
think
we
all
received
some
emails
with
some
concerns
of
how
this
was
was
generated.
B
I'm
not
sure
exactly
and
I'm,
not
shying
away
from
the
idea
of
this
coming
before
the
Public
Safety
Committee
at
all,
but
I'm
not
sure
what
we're
going
to
accomplify.
By
doing
that,
it's
we're
just
going
to
maybe
hear
some
other
things,
but
could
I
call
on
Steve
to
give
us
some
share
some
light
on
how
this
process
worked
and
what
happened.
Sure.
G
H
We
actually
should
have
a
couple.
People
on
Zoom
as
well.
Cassandra
Payton
is
on
I,
think
so
sorry
I
think
Chief
Reynolds
is
on
deputy
chief
Walker
should
be
on
Cassandra
Payton
should
be
on,
but
I'll
try
and
answer
the
questions
as
best
I.
B
G
H
H
Did
the
yes.
B
I
H
H
H
I
K
K
Okay,
yes,
sir
mayor
council
members
I
apologize
about
that.
I
was
trying
to
speak
up,
but
I
got
muted,
essentially
identify.
K
Essentially,
I
was
responsible
for
this
process,
the
procurement
side,
as
well
as
the
Contracting
and
working
with
Steve
on
this
essentially
back
in
October
2022,
we
did
do
an
RFP
process
and
we
went
through
the
procurement
policy
with
the
city.
That's
when
we
received
the
initial
bid
back
from
CNA.
That
was
the
only
vendor
that
been
on
the
project.
K
Obviously,
the
bid
was
tremendously
over
the
amount
that
was
budgeted
for
so
it
caused
us
to
kind
of
take
a
pause
and
take
a
look
at
what
other
ways
we
could
accomplish
the
third
party
audit
review.
Essentially,
we
obviously
threw
a
lot
of
discussions
with
different
various
universities.
We
tend
to
do
some
research
agreements,
some
with
costs
some
with
not
that
is
where
we
kind
of
ended
up,
taking
similar
scope
of
work
and
working
with
USC
and
their
Partners
as
well.
There's
various!
K
If
you,
if
you
see
the
proposal
in
front
of
you,
it
has
various
entities
to
include
Clemson
University,
also
an
independent
Contracting
Solutions
company
that
was
able
to
kind
of
work
together
and
collaborate
and
look
at
if
they
were
able
to
conduct
this
project
for
us
at
the
cost.
Obviously
that
we
were
looking
for
that
was
budgeted
and
that's
kind
of
where
we
ended
up
here.
K
G
K
No
sir,
they
did
not
submit
as
part
of
the
RFP.
They
typically
will
not
bid
out
research
agreement
projects
like
that.
It
really
was
more
of
a
collaboration
on
our
part
in
looking
at
ways
to
to
to
to
to
accomplish
and
complete
the
project,
knowing
that
we
we're
not
going
to
get
any
additional
bids
back
for
this
project.
K
K
We
did
yes,
council
member,
we
did
look
at
going
back
out.
We
spoke
to
procurement.
Essentially,
this
project
was
sent
out
to
over
15
vendors
that
do
similar
work,
and
so
we
did
not
feel
that
we
were
going
to
successfully
receive
additional
bids
back.
L
If
I
made
yeah
Mr
chairman
my
colleagues,
so
when
we
had
the
presentation
at
our
last
city
council
meeting
and
the
the
Public
Safety
Committee
meeting
just
prior
to
that,
if
I
may
say
this,
this
was
one
of
the
key
things
that
that
we
all
agreed.
L
We
needed
to
move
forward
on
and
have
this
review
of.
You
know
the
whole
shooting
match
of
of
the
racial
bias
audit,
and
so
that's
exactly
what
this
does
and
the
biggest
concern
I
I
agreed,
I
I
taught
the
council
member
about
and
afterwards
about
bringing
forth
the
data.
Let's
see
the
numbers,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
this
agreement
does
it's
it's
included
in
Bob
Kale's,
you
know,
details
is
through
the
request
of
the
police.
L
Analytics
is
to
mine
or
go
after
existing
data
to
assess
progress
on
implementing
the
audit
recommendations.
First
step
is
to
review
and
analyze
work
already
completed
by
CPD
and
subsequent
to
that
likely
include
comparing
the
2019
data
to
2023
on
critical
issues,
and
he
lists
all
those
issues,
just
the
things
that
we
were
talking
about,
that
we
wanted
to
hear
last
meeting
and
we
didn't
right.
So
so
this
moves
the
ball
forward.
L
It
also
includes
robust
Community
engagement,
and
it
seemed
to
me
that
timing
was
of
on
all
our
minds
two
weeks
ago
to
get
this
thing
going
and
we've
been
through
a
process.
You've
just
heard
Cassandra
describe
it,
you
know
to
kind
of
restart
it
now,
it's
it
would
cost
us
a
good
bit
of
time.
I
think
and
I
just
want
to
also
give
a
little
shout
out
to
Bob
kale
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
y'all
know
him,
but
he
in
addition
to
this
partnership
or
work
that
he's
doing
with
USC.
L
For
this
he
he's
local
he's
worked
with
the
Riley
Institute
at
the
College
of
Charleston
and
about
when
we,
when
we
had
Tent
City
seven
eight
years
ago,
he
did
a
a
study
with
the
Riley
Institute
about
homelessness
in
the
area.
So
he
knows
Charleston.
He
knows
he
knows
I
think
he
could
do
a
good
job
so
anyway,
I
I
think
with
the
thought
that
we
want
to
get
this
thing.
Moving
right
along
I
would
support
approving
it
this
evening.
M
So
two
things
one
I
did
have
a
I
think
a
great
conversation
with
councilmember
Bowden.
Two
weeks
ago.
He
raised
some
good
questions
and
we've
embraced
that
we've
since
been
preparing
for
a
presentation
and
I've
committed
to
M
and
I,
commit
to
the
council
that
we
will
talk
about
and
embrace
the
idea
of
disparities,
the
disparate
numbers
that
exist,
which
are
really
significant
and
have
some
folks
on
the
call
when
we
present
to
the
Public
Safety,
Committee
I,
think
it's
April
10th
whatever.
M
That
date
is
to
have
a
very
good
discussion
and
presentation
about
where
we're
at
where
we've
been,
where
we're
headed
when
it
comes
to
the
disparities
separately
for
today's
contract.
I
just
I
believe
that
there's
three
things
that
I
know
that
you
would
want
to
answer.
One
are
the
people
here
capable
of
doing
what
we
need
them
to
do
and,
as
the
mayor
just
said,
I
think
we
have
three
of
some
of
the
best
experts
in
the
business.
M
One
Dr
Jeff
Alpert
from
USC
who's
world
renowned
as
well
as
Dr,
kale
and
there's
also
another
professor
Dr
McLean
from
Clemson
and
and
they're
going
to
be
a
part
of
this.
They
they
have
a
lot
of
access
to
a
lot
of
other
entities
that
can
kind
of
make
sense
of
data,
and
why
why
it
it's
important
and
putting
it
in
context
and
giving
good
denominators
and
making
sense
of
that,
putting
it
in
the
context
of
the
audit
Etc.
So
one
I
think
we
have
the
right
people
on
this
contract
too.
M
I
do
believe
we
we
followed
the
procurement
process
and
I
I
believe
if
we
don't
kind
of
follow
up
as
quickly
as
we
can,
there
are
going
to
be
substantial
delays.
I
think
that
we're
in
a
good
place
to
move
forward
and
I
recommend
approval,
and
also
there
was
some
concern
that
this
contract
does
not
deal
with
disparities
and
Community
input
or
engagement,
and
it
actually
is
written
into
the
contract
and
that's
where
I
think
Steve
Peter
was
asking
Steve,
there's
certain
things
that
he
pointed
out.
M
You
know
which
page
number,
which
line
which
section
that
it
actually
addresses
those
specific
things
that
were
I,
think
concerned
to
some
others,
and
so
my
recommendation
is
that
we
that
we
are
able
to
move
forward
and
I
I
do
I,
don't
think
we
could
go
anywhere
and
get
anything
near.
What
we'll
get
with
this
review
for
even
a
fraction
of
the
cost.
B
N
I
do
have
a
question.
Thank
you.
Council
council
member,
good
question,
I'm
glad
you're,
raising
the
issue
you're,
putting
it
on
the
front,
burn
and
I.
Thank
you
for
that.
You
too,
councilman
Sacrament.
Let
me
ask
this:
if
we
did
send
it
to
Public
Works
I'm,
sorry,
you
know
I'm
stuck
on
public
foreign.
N
The
contract
is
going
to
be
have
more
scrutiny.
I'm
asking
is
that
that's
the
infant
I
mean
Public
Safety
will
review
the
contract
if
it
goes
back
to
Public
Safety
I'm,
not
on
Public
Safety.
So
if
we
deferred
it
and
send
it
to
Public
Safety,
what's
going
to
happen
in
public
safety,
that's
what
I'm,
asking
and.
B
B
What
we've
already
heard
from
and
I'm
just
not
sure
what
else
we're
going
to
accomplish
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Well,.
N
One
of
the
aspects
that
the
chief
just
said,
certain
aspects
is
already
written
into
the
contract.
I
mean
I,
don't
know
whether
the
Public
Safety
Committee
knew
that
or
not
and
I'm,
just
wondering
whether
that
review
can
happen.
It
should
happen.
Why
did
it
happen
anyway?
N
In
other
words,
if
this
is
approved,
why
wouldn't
that
type
review
happen
anyway,
I'm
asking
normally
it
wouldn't
yes,
but
I.
Think
in
this
case
the
concerns
raised
by
councilman,
Bowden
I
think
it
should
still
have
that
review.
B
We
can
take
this
I'm
looking
at
the
contract
now
and
it's
it's
got
those
issues
in
there,
the
Five
Points
the
five
goals
that
they
want
to
they're
contractor
to
review
traffic
stops
and
fuel
contacts,
use
of
force,
the
complaint
process,
Community,
oriented
policing
practices,
recruitment,
hiring,
promotions,
Etc.
So
it's
going
to
it's
in
the
contract.
That's
we're
supposed
to
be
doing,
and
it's
supposed
to
have
public
engagement
to
reach
out
to
the
stakeholders
as
well.
My.
N
E
I
think
so
the
reason
this
came
up
is
is
obviously
it
you
know
came
up
a
couple
weeks
ago
in
a
slightly
different
context
and
yeah
similar
community
members
who
were
concerned
about
who
brought
those
concerns
to
me
to
to
bring
here
at
the
at
the
prior
meeting
had
had
similar
concerns
with
with
this
basically
and
and
I'm,
not
asking
you
to
get
back
to
the
procurement
process
just
to
be
just
to
become
I,
I,
I
sort
of
agree.
With
that
assessment.
That
I
mean
we're.
E
You
know,
we've
gotten
a
number
of
bits,
we're
gonna
get
it's
basically
just
an
acknowledgment
that
this
you
know,
maybe
isn't
exactly
where
this
was
all
intended
to
go
in
the
initial
CNA
audit.
But
what
we
really
need
right
now
is
an
analysis
of
the
of
the
data,
no
doubt
and
to
figure
out
where
we
are
now
and
how
we
move
forward
and
that's
kind
of
more
what
this
is
than,
maybe
the
maybe
the
end
product
that
was
that
was,
you
know
exactly
contemplated
by
CNA.
N
F
Thank
you,
chairman
I.
Just
have
one
one
question.
It
looks
like
a
lot
of
the
scope
of
the
work
has
been
already
identified.
It's
been
laid
out
we're
folks
from
CPAC
involved,
at
least
in
initial
conversations
on
developing
this
scope
of
work.
G
C
F
H
A
H
Osc
I
don't
believe
they.
They
reviewed
the
contract,
no
Mr.
I
Mr,
chairman
and
council
member
Sacrament
Steve
Jillian
edit
Edson
with
the
PD,
also
has
her
hand
up.
She
works
with
CPAC.
H
J
Thank
you
yes,
I'm
I'm,
the
director
of
procedural
Justice
and
research
at
the
CPD
and
I
will
mention
that
is
to
from
my
understanding.
Cpac
did
not
review
the
actual
scope
of
work
that
was
taken
directly
from
the
recommendations
from
CNA
CNA
thought
it
really
important
that,
after
you
know
along
this
process
that
we
get
a
sense
of
how
well
the
implementation
of
this
entire
effort
was
done.
So
really,
the
effort
here
is
to
assess
Fidelity,
which
is
you
know
how
the
extent
to
what
the
which
the
recommendations
were
implemented
now.
J
I
do
know
that
a
lot
of
the
areas
I
believe
that
CPAC
has
brought
up
in
discussions
about.
You
know
the
racial
bias,
audit
and
the
outputs
they
want
to
see
from
the
racial
bias
audit
are
addressed
in
this
contract.
We
will
be
including
CPAC
along
the
way
in
the
assessment
they
we
are
actually
going
to
be
working
with
them
on
a
community
survey.
J
This
proposal
includes
a
lot
of
interaction
with
CPAC
interviews
of
stakeholders
and
getting
them
involved
in
forums,
and
so
I
do
believe
that
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
were
addressed
by
CPAC
about
the
data
and
about
the
public
perception
and
about
how
the
community
really
believes
racial
disparities
may
or
may
not
have
changed,
is
covered
in
the
scope
of
work.
J
I
believe,
sir,
that
this
is
an
extremely
comprehensive
evaluation
proposal
for
the
cost
and
as
someone
who's
done,
research
before
and
worked
with
outside
parties
for
a
huge
evaluation
of
this
nature.
J
Normally
they
run
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
and
this
one
includes
qualitative
and
quantitative
data
analysis
interactions
with
community
members
interactions
with
stakeholders,
a
subject
matter,
expert
review,
along
with
reports
that
will
be
presented
to
city
council
and
the
Public
Safety
Committee,
and
made
available
to
the
public
and
I
think,
most
importantly,
in
my
role
in
responsibilities,
this
proposal
also
gives
us
recommendations
and
guidance
on
how
we
can
best
evaluate
disparity,
evaluate
biases
and
make
sure
that
we
are
adhering
to
best
practices
in
using
the
data
that
this.
A
A
In
order
for
us
to
move
forward,
are
you
going
to
have
us
vote
on
the
deferral?
Are
you
going
to
withdraw
it
and
get
another
motion.
E
M
A
I
I
She's
joining
us
virtually
all
right,
I'm
councilmember
Parker
is
not
voting
mayor
tecklenberg.
D
I
N
Or
questions
or
amendments
I
do
since
council
members
Sheila
made
the
motion,
would
you
allow
I
guess
the
amendment
for
it
to
go
to
Public
Safety,
even
though
we
approve
the
funding
to
additional
scrutiny
with
the
contract?
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
moved
in
properly
seconded
that
we
amend
the
motion
to
send
the
send
it
to
our
Public
Safety
committee
for
further
review,
but
that
we've
approve
it
tonight.
A
Okay,
all
in
favor
the
eyes
have
it
I'm.
D
Sorry,
council
members
last
question:
what
date
would
that
be.
D
D
G
I
A
Yes,
item
number
eight
moved
in
properly.
B
A
A
I
hear
it:
okay,
which
the
motion
is
10.
A
N
Also
approval
I
know
councilmember
seeking
is
going
to
vote
against
this
one,
but
I'm
amazing.
G
O
The
record
show
at
the
record
show
there
are
no
titles
at
31
Littleton,
that
is
for
sure.
The
City
of
Charleston
committee
on
real
estate
met
yesterday
afternoon
at
3
30.
We
had
a
very
brief
meeting.
The
only
item
on
our
agenda
other
than
annexations
was
approval
of
a
fourth
lease
Amendment
between
the
City
of
Charleston
and
Eco,
vest
East
shed
Development
LLC.
This
is
the
space
currently
occupied
by
share
house
and
Bodega
over
off
of
King
Street
there
on
Ann
Street,
and
that
was
unanimously
approved.
O
If
folks,
watching
on
YouTube
have
not
been
over
there,
it's
a
great
place.
You
can
get
a
drink,
get
a
cup
of
coffee
and
go
check
out
a
children's
museum
across
the
street.
It's
really
got
something
for
everybody
that
was
approved
unanimously
and
then,
of
course,
we
unanimously
approved
the
two
annexations
on
our
agenda,
both
Residential
Properties
one
in
councilman,
waring's
district,
one
in
councilman
Shades
district,
and
we
had
a
discussion
about
annexation.
A
L
May
I
just
make
a
couple
of
comments.
Mr
chairman
and
my
colleagues
number
nine
on
the
agenda
was
our
renewal
of
support
for
re-entry
program,
you'll
all
familiar
with
I.
Don't
know
if
all
our
citizens
are,
but
we
help
to
re-employ
former
offenders
coming
out
of
prison
and
the
the
two
things
that
make
the
biggest
difference
for
former
criminals
going
back
to
jail
as
whether
they
get
a
job
and
a
place
to
live
a
job
and
a
place
to
live
so
helping
them
get.
L
Employment
is
really
it's
the
right
human
thing
to
do,
but
it's
a
public
safety
thing
to
thing
to
do.
Number
eight
I
just
want
to
say
I
always
wanted
to
own
an
argon
laser,
so
we're
buying
one.
That's
a
great
thing:
the
number
six,
the
public
art
initiatives
we
we
really
could
stand
to
do
some
more
public
art
in
the
City
of
Charleston
and
hopefully
Bloomberg
will
help
us
do
so
if
we
get
approval
of
this
grant.
L
But
most
importantly,
I
wanted
to
note
on
the
item
under
bids
and
purchases
the
amendment
to
our
water
plan.
It
wasn't
a
lot
of
money
like
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
but
this
would
be
the
first
time
as
far
as
I
know
in
history,
that
the
City
of
Charleston
plans
to
begin
and
maintain
long-term
water
table
measurements,
the
major
how
much
water
is
in
our
water
table.
That's
as
we
learned
in
in
the
Netherlands.
It
really
makes
a
difference
long
term,
particularly
with
rising
sea
levels,
to
keep
track
of
where
your
water
table
is
all
right.