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City of Charleston Committee on Ways and Means 8/17/21
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B
A
F
F
A
A
Any
discussion,
not
all
in
favor,
say,
aye
item
12,
stormwater
management
approval
toward
the
construction
contract.
Second,
moved
improperly
seconded
any
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
item
13.
second,
moved
and
properly
seconded
any
discussion
regarding
stormwater
management.
Approval
to
enter
an
agreement
accept
a
grant
award
from
fema
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
item
14
police
department
approval
second,
to
submit
an
application.
A
F
A
D
B
B
B
B
There
is
a
long-term
lease
that
is
still
pending
once
if
we
do
purchase
a
property
that
we'll
be
stuck
with
for
a
number
of
years.
We
had
after
discussion
with
the
the
several
contingencies,
including
the
lease
and
the
environmental
concerns,
with
that
it
was
moved
that
we
accept
the
purchase
of
this
10
plus
acres
of
land,
with
those
consistency
incorporated
and
the
majority
voted
to
approve
number
eight
question.
B
To
me,
mr
chairman
yeah,
so
the
one
of
the
contingencies
on
the
property
is
that
I
think
pittsburgh
avenue
is
like
a
dividing
line
between
the
city
of
charleston,
where
our
existing
boundary
is
located,
and
this
is
on
the
north
charleston
side.
So
one
of
the
contingencies
with
this
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
to
my
attention
to
annex
the
property
into
the
into
the
city
of
charleston.
B
B
B
B
A
A
B
B
B
A
B
And
and
mr
chairman,
what
I
would
recommend
with
that
is:
if
we
go
ahead
and
execute
this
contract,
we
can,
we
can
get
out
of
it
and
no
loss
us.
The
will
of
this
committee
and
the
will
of
council
is
that
you
direct
the
appropriate
departments
to
look
at
other
land
in
the
process
of
doing
that.
That's
perfectly
fine.
We
can
do
that,
there's
nothing.
What's
what
to
my
knowledge
and
I'll
look
at
our
legal
counsel,
but
why
we're
not
prohibited
from
looking
at
other
land?
At
the
same
time,.
D
D
Is
there
someone
on
staff
who
can
tell
us
what
diligence
was
done
in
advance
of
even
negotiating
this
contract
on
other
properties
that
we
could
have
used,
which
my
understanding
is
to
be
for
our
public
works
stories
right,
so
we're
going
to
park,
trucks
and
sand
and
all
those
kind
of
things
for
a
piece
of
property?
That's
out
of
the
city
that
isn't
an
extent
that
has
some
history
to
it.
I'm
sure
that
we
don't
know
about.
I
mean
what
other
diligence
do
we
do.
Do
we
have
a
broker?
D
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
unless
there's
a
reason
why
we
would
need
to
go
into
a
contract
tonight,
I
don't
see
why
we
can't
just
defer
item
a
and
bring
it
back
up.
I
mean
we
have
to
have
somebody
from
real
estate
to
be
able
to
be
present
answer
these
kind
of
questions.
We
don't
have
anybody
from
real
estate
here.
I
think
the
most
pertinent
thing
to
do
would
be
to
defer
this
item
unless
there
is
some
sort
of
exigent
circumstance
as
to
why
a
contract
need
to
be
entered
in
tonight.
D
E
G
This
circumvents
our
procurement
process,
we're
going
through
a
major
process
of
trying
to
find
a
home
involved,
public
works
and
we've
got
one
site
and
one
side
only
not
to
mention
all
the
things
that
councilman
seeking
and
griffith
has
said.
That's
just
not
being
good
stewards
for
the
taxpayers
dollars.
How
do
you
get
the
competitive
process
involved?
We're
getting
ready
later
on
the
day
to
certainly
discuss
the
task
force
on
racial
equity
and
inclusion?
G
G
There's
some
other
legal
aspects
to
this
particular
contract
that
if
we
were
to
go
forward,
I
we
definitely
need
to
have
it.
I
was
going
to
call
for
an
executive
session
to
discuss,
in
particular
the
annexation
aspects
of
it.
That
said,
if
you
would
a
manual
motion
to
include
that
when
we
go
forward
looking
for
a
new
site,
it
should
be
throughout
an
rfp
process.
G
Go
through
our
procurement
process,
put
out
the
objective
that
the
city
needs,
10,
plus
or
more
acres
in
the
city
of
charleston
that
hopefully
close
to
major
highways
through
ways
and
put
it
out
there
for
the
real
to
the
community.
Commercial
realtor
community
come
back
with
these
proposals
and
then
we
vet
the
process
that
way,
but
one
choice
of
one
choice
only
is
not
the
way
that
you
should
spend
in
excess
of
six
million
dollars
for
a
cost
of
land.
That's
contaminated,
that's
not
in
the
city
of
charleston.
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A
G
A
G
Is
mr
chairman,
I'm
not
debating
whether
it's
a
preferred
councilman
brady
is
right.
The
question
is:
if
we're
going
to
have
an
rfp
process.
That's
part
of
this
motion:
how
do
you
have
an
rfp
process
that
we're
going
to
defer
and
come
back
and
consider
the
same
site
as
a
standalone
issue?
Only
that's
the
point
of
order.
Mr
brady,
mr
brady
is
right
about
the
privilege,
oh
motion,
but
we
basically
have
two
motions
combined
into
one
correct,
so
yeah,
I'm
asking
for
a
ruling
on
that.
F
G
H
It's,
mr
chairman.
Yes,
so
since
that
was
denied,
I
no
longer
have
a
conflict.
I
do
want
to
share
that.
We've
asked
capital
projects
to
go
ahead
and
begin
an
rfp
to
hire
a
consultant
to
to
analyze
every
square
foot
of
what's
at
milford
and
what
needs
to
move
and
what
else
needs
to
be
located.
We
know
that
wr
grace
is
not
enough,
but
we
are
already
embarking
on
hiring
a
consultant
to
help
us
with
that.
G
I
think
hiring
a
con
consultant.
Mr
chairman
is
one
thing.
I
don't
necessarily
disagree
with
that,
but
if
we
have
a
rfp
process
asking
for
a
certain
amount
of
acres
with
certain
parameters
involved
with
that,
I
think
you
put
the
private
sector
at
work.
We
got
some
great
commercial
realtors,
that's
familiar
with
the
city
of
charleston
and
surrounding
areas.
I
think
we'll
get
back
a
number
of
proposals
of
sites
that
may
fit
now.
The
consultant
may
come
in
and
say
what
would
departments
go
there?
Not.
G
A
B
B
B
This
was
also
to
include
at
least
an
existing
office
space
on
the
third
floor,
as
well
as
license
and
use
terms
and
conditions
on
that
and
then.
Finally,
on
item
d,
it
was
request
for
approval
first,
amendment
of
the
management
and
operating
agreement
between
the
city
of
charleston
and
the
charleston
area,
visitor
prevention
and
visitors
bureau,
as
relates
to
the
by
shared
restaurant
and
train
station,
including
the
parking
lot
and
matt.
If
you
can
elaborate
on
any
of
those
three,
I
appreciate
diversity.
I
I
I
The
second
portion
is
to
lease
them
the
front
meeting
street
vrtc
lot
for
the
remainder
of
the
management
agreement.
It
is
starts
at
two
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
increases
seven
and
a
half
percent
and
is
capped
in
the
last
year,
390
000.
This
amount
was
negotiated
and
it
keeps
the
city
whole
financially.
D
I
D
B
I
think
you
on
this
one
as
well,
I
believe,
are
you:
are
e-
is
a
very
convoluted
transaction
dealing
with
0.31
acres
of
land
off
of
fishburning
coming
street
area.
This
could
be
associated
with
the
potential
of
developing
six
affordable
housing
units
on
this
property
as
a
land
swap-
and
I
don't
know
who
else
is
here.
B
K
K
However,
we
had
begun
working
with
the
crc
and
the
normal
developers
late
2019
into
2020,
however,
we're
now
finally
bringing
this
to
full
fruition,
and
it
is
0.31
acres
off
of
the
septum
mclark
parkway
at
fishburn
street
in
the
west
side,
community
and
again
the
goal
there
is
to
build
new.
Instead
of
attempting
to
preserve
some
housing
rental
workforce
housing
for
the
city
of
charleston
residents.
K
Glad
to
answer
any
questions-
and
I
would
say
because
I
wasn't
at
real
estate
yesterday-
scdot
does
not
have
an
appraisal
on
the
site
because
they
were
transferring
it
to
the
city
of
charleston.
They
would
not
transfer
it
naturally
to
a
non-profit
or
for-profit
without
other
procedures
being
in
place,
but
we
have
one
in
process
and
we'll
bring
that
back
to
council
at
the
next
meeting.
F
Maybe
I
spaced
out,
while
miss
johnson
was
speaking
because
I
was
thinking
about
all
the
work
that
she's
done
today
moving
her
college
student
into
her
space.
But
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
appreciate
that
by
by
transferring
this
plan
to
the
crc
that
this
will
be
a
permanent
affordability,
it's
community
land
trust,
owned
property.
A
F
B
B
B
B
My
frustration,
councilman
griffin,
was
my
expectations.
Was
this
document
was
going
to
be
ready
on
july
20th,
then
we
were
promised
to
be
ready
for
this
meeting
in
august.
We've
been
at
this
for
a
year
and
part
of
the
problem
which
I
respect
from
landmark,
was
over
put
a
damper
on
this
project.
There
were
concerns
about
what
was
going
to
be
viable
from
an
economic
standpoint
on
this
property
councilwoman
warren
suggested
we
come
back
and
do
a
presentation
on
what's
proposed
over
that.
We
will
certainly
do
that.
B
Part
of
this
development
would
include
a
civic
center
at
the
tip
of
the
property
with
my
area.
Unfortunately,
suicide,
merge
area,
but
it
would
be
a
civic
center
at
that
area.
Landmark,
would
develop
a
two-story
complex
with
retail,
restaurant
and
office
space
on
that
property,
some
green
space
and
some
other
amenities
for
the
community.
B
It's
a
huge
investment
on
this
night.
Like
I
said
earlier,
I
understood
landmarks
hesitation
for
the
commercial
park
to
see
how
the
pandemic
was
going
to
shake
out,
but
being
that
we're
still
having
some
my
level
of
frustration
with
getting
them
to
the
table,
getting
the
sign
if
they
can't
come
forward
with
this,
I'm
ready
to
pull
the
plug
and
stop
all
over
again.
Quite
frankly,
I've
expressed
that
to
folks
when
dealing
with
the
landlord
griffin.
E
Just
as
a
follow-up,
if
that's
the
case,
we
need
to
start
looking
at
other
options
immediately,
including
hopefully,
to
sell
that
property.
So
I
would
hope
that
we
could
get.
We
just
can't
keep
playing
this
waiting
game
forever
and
forever.
You
know
we
were
all
anticipating
that
this
would
be
on
our
agenda
this
month.
B
J
B
I've
been
working
on
this
since
2016.,
it's
been
a
long
process
and,
getting
to
this
point,
I've
shared
my
anger
and
frustration
with
the
parties
involved
in
this.
I
think
it's
this
high
time
that
he
they
even
need
to
fisher
cut
bait
and
I've
said
that
to
them
as
clearly
as
I
possibly
can,
my
community
in
my
district
is
waiting
for
this
to
be
developed.
There's
a
high
level
of
frustration
with
this.
B
H
Mr
chairman,
I
I
just
would
report
in
response
to
that
question.
Yesterday
at
real
estate
committee,
I
shared
that
there
was
only
one
outstanding
point
between
the
parties
that
was
worked
out
this
morning.
So
it's
ready,
but
obviously
not
ready
enough
for
in
time
enough
for
consideration,
given
notice
and
for
for
council
to
have
a
opportunity
to
review
it.
So
there's
nothing
standing
in
the
way
between
having
this.
At
our
next
meeting
council
member
waring
suggested.
We
have
another
session
to
re-present
the.
J
H
A
B
B
They
came
through
with
some
conceptual
designs
which
were
consistent,
and
the
community
like
to
have
seen
the
debate
is
what
we're
having
here
is
part
of
the
negotiations
we've
been
talking
about,
which
included
ownership
sale,
a
part
of
it.
We
maintain
ownership
of
a
portion
where
we
would
put
our
civic
center
part
of
it,
sell
part
of
it
to
this.
To
landmark,
we've
gone
back
and
forth
with
those
discussions
with
them
regularly
on
that,
and
so
everything
that
we're
talking
about
today
is
things
that
we
have
discussed
and
have
filtered
through.
B
We've
we've
got
to
this
funnel
part,
and
sometimes
I
guess,
when
you
get
to
the
to
the
rubber
booster
road,
this
may
be
the
hardest
part
of
it
all.
So
you
know,
if
we'll
see
where
they
come
back
in
september,
hopefully
they'll
they'll,
pan
out
we'll,
hopefully
we'll
have
this
special
meeting.
We
can
go
over
the
design
with
full
council
and
see
what
it
looks
like
and
for
those
who
have
not
had
opportunity
to
do
that
and
then
I
think,
if
they
don't
come
through
in
september,
we
go
in
a
different
direction.
A
G
Yeah
we
had
to
go
back
to
the
opaque
site.
That
kind
of
went
to
the
next
item.
On
me
kind
of
quick
everything.
That's
been
said:
we've
got
a
third,
a
council
that
wasn't
even
on
council
when
that
one
proposal
was
made
in
front
of
city
council.
So
I
agree
with
the
mayor
that
we
should
have
that
proposal
presented
to
everybody,
but
there
may
be
some
ideas
that
some
of
the
new
people
on
council
would
come
forth
with
that.
G
Never
had
a
chance
to
even
be
considered
three
years
ago
or,
however
long
ago
was
when
we
had
that
that
proposal
you
know,
councilman
seakins
came
up
with
the
idea
some
some
months
back
ago
when
he
said
you
know
reason.
I
know
it's
a
small
site,
but
rezoning
is
the
part
allowing
certain
outposts
to
be
what
we'd
like
to
attract
there.
It's
a
very
good
idea,
never
got
a
chance
to
be
thought
through.
G
G
So
the
creative
juices
that
you
know
I
said
over
a
year
ago,
we
got
some
very
good
minds
on
this
council.
I
look
forward
to
some
of
the
input
from
the
new
people
on
council
looking
at
what
was
proposed
at
least
three
years
ago,
but
not
having
a
situation
where
it's
presented,
and
then
we
got
a
vote
on
one
developer's
thought
the
same
night.