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City of Charleston Ways & Means Meeting - July 17,2018
A
B
City
and
into
your
good
graces,
we
pray
for
the
resources
that
we
spend
on
behalf
of
the
taxpayers.
We
pay
for.
We
pray
for
each
one
of
us
to
make
clear
and
peaceful
decisions,
and
thank
you
for
those
citizens
who
have
turned
out
tonight
to
be
in
support
of
all
that
we
do
in
your
name.
We
pray,
amen,
amen,.
A
Thank
You
councilman:
let's
see
next
item
on
Jenna's
approval
of
the
minutes
from
June
19th
is
their
motion.
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
and
the
eyes
have
it
item.
3
is
bids
and
purchases,
and
let
me
just
quickly
before
we
move
forward
to
bid
purchases
I
want
to
bring
to
everybody's
attention
in
your
packets.
There
was
a
slight
error
on
item
3d
and
on
your
table
or
your
desks.
You
will
have
a
corrected
version,
that's
associated
with
short
terminal
software,
so
they've
provided
that
corrected
version
for
you.
C
C
But
when
you
look
at
this,
the
admitted
piece
and
I
justify
his
attention.
We
got
the
results
of
the
selection
today,
really
a
short-term
growth.
But
if
you
go
back
to
Minardi
business
report
that
the
contractor
submitted,
they
said
the
contract
that
the
minority
participation
was
ten
thousand
dollars
which
represented
twenty
percent
of
the
contractors,
so
I
assume
the
request
was
set
up
now
this
has
been
changed
to
where
it
is
20
percent.
D
The
actual
cost
where
the
software
will
be
$50,000,
we
add
an
additional
$5,000
for
you
to
travel
expenses.
If
we
have
to
bring
these
folks,
they
agree
to
at
least
five
days
for
free,
but
if
we
have
to
bring
them
back
to
testify
in
front
of
Judge
or
any
of
those
items,
we
added
some
additional
funds
to
allow
those
transactions
to
take
place.
D
C
E
C
A
A
Okay,
any
discussion
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
hi
those
opposed
you
know,
as
have
it
I
hadn't
five
as
budget
finance,
revenue
collection,
approval
of
additional
cost
to
design
construction,
temporary,
park-and-ride
location
amount
of
eighteen
thousand
three
hundred
dollars
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
opposed
now
is
have
it
off
some
cultural
affairs
approval
to
accept
the
$5,000
in
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
A
Those
opposed
now
is:
have
it
item
seven
in
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
those
opposed
nice?
Have
it
item
eight
in
the
discussion
moving
right
along
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
now
is:
have
it
item
nine
in
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
now
is
have
it
item.
10
parks
and
capital
projects,
approval
design
contract
with
loyal
architects
in
the
amount
of
277
418
Phase
one
design
station
Hey
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
A
H
H
H
A
I
B
A
Apologies:
okay,
we'll
hold
that
we'll
be
right:
back
yeah
fire
department,
approval
for
men.
Remember:
item
Understanding
between
city.
Well,
let
me
at
least
read
it
if
y'all
want
to
hear
so
bad
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
those
opposed.
Now,
let's
have
it
okay,
so
who
seconded
number
12?
Okay,
all
right
13
did
we
have
a
motion?
Okay,
so
now
discussion,
we
had
three
who
are
in
conflict
of
interest
and
we
want
to
mr.
mayor.
A
I
A
I
Shade
Thank
You
chairman,
so
this
is
this
occurred
before
I
became
a
member
of
City
Council
on
this
I
see
some
questions,
make
sure
I
understand
the
dynamics
of
all
of
this
and
I
know
that
council,
member
Gregory
is
made
this
proposal
and
maybe
if
he
could
make
a
presentation
and
they
helped
us
a
little
bit
with
I-
did
I
did
yes,
sir
and
mr.
Bernards,
supplemental.
J
K
I
I
K
We
have,
in
the
past,
with
tourism
dollars,
1.4
million
dollars
that
y'all
grew
during
the
budget
process.
We
also
pay
the
utilities
on
the
building.
We
pay
a
lease
payment
for
the
lighting
equipment
and
we're
also
will
start
paying
a
lease
payment
for
the
sound
equipment
that
they
just
purchased
for.
We
was
purchased
and.
K
K
L
So
it
makes
sense,
I
mean
this.
These
numbers
didn't
just
come
out
of
nowhere.
There
had
to
have
been
some
sort
of
you.
Wouldn't
just
these
numbers
didn't
just
fall
out
of
the
sky.
I
mean
there
I
believe
there
was
some
sort
of
agreement
there
and
also
I.
Don't
think
that
that
we
can.
We
can
say
that,
because
we
pay
the
light
bill,
they
should
get
any
less
money
because
we
utilize
that
facility
just
as
much
as
as
they
do.
We've
got
so
many
city
offices
over
there.
That's.
L
L
I
didn't
know
that,
but
what
I'll
say
is
I
think
we
need
to
put
it
in
writing
and
we
need
to
keep
this
going
because
what
kind
of
statement
are
we
making
if
we're,
not
we're
not
putting
some
money
in
to
the
Goyard
I
mean
they
do
so
much
for
our
city.
They
create
so
much
tourism
dollars.
We
just
need
to.
We
need
to
keep
this
going.
It's
it's
been
a
great
revitalization
of
downtown
and
I.
Think
they're
doing
a
great
job
over
there
and
we've
been
putting
the
money
in
I.
A
For
the
benefit
of
the
committee,
let
me
make
because
I
think
there
was
some
question
as
to
sort
of
history.
The
process
et
cetera.
It
was
brought
to
my
attention
a
letter
from
May
1st
2015
that
was
actually
from
our
assistant,
Clerk
counsel,
Jennifer,
cook,
mister
Bedard.
It
was
specific
to
the
operating
agreement.
It
was
and
I'll
just
I'm
will
read
two
sentences.
That'll
help
I.
A
Think
some
of
the
discussion
says
funding
associated
with
support
of
GMCs
operations
of
the
Goyard
as
a
relation
to
this
agreement
must
be
recommended
by
the
mayor,
the
council
and
approved
by
council
in
the
overall
annual
funds
appropriation
process
each
year.
A
city
financial
investment
to
aid
in
the
operation
should
be
expected
to
be
required
annually,
moving
forward
with
the
overall
support,
slowly
reducing
after
the
first
three
to
five
years
of
operation.
Now,
I
just
want
to
bring
that
yells
attention.
A
That's
just
sort
of
helps
with
some
of
the
history
discussions
and
questions
now
and
by
no
means
am
I,
saying
that
it's
my
position
that
we
need
to
did
not
fund
the
Gilyard
I've
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
that
if
that
was
sort
of
out
there
now,
that
was
from
our
assistant
clerk
more
for
clarification,
I
think
to
mr.
Bogart.
That's
not
sort
of
illegal!
If
you
will
operating
agreement,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
I
think.
A
B
B
F
F
We
go
through
our
budgeting
process
based
on
the
needs
of
the
city
at
that,
given
time
projected
going
forward
for
one
and
one
year,
only,
although
we
reserved
some
things
for
five
and
ten
years
down,
the
road
I
worry
about
making
commitments
like
this
for
10,
11
and
12
years
out
in
the
future,
at
a
some
certain
that
increases
rather
than
decreases,
I
mean
as
we
sat
in
these
chambers
10
years
ago.
Mr.
mayor
and
mr.
F
chairman,
we
weren't
thinking
about
sea
level
rise
and
flooding
and
billions
and
billions
of
dollars
in
needs,
and
so
I.
Just
the
Gilyard
is
a
great
asset
to
the
city.
It's
gonna
be
there
but
time
immemorial,
but
we've
got
an
obligation
citywide
to
think
about
on
an
annualized
basis
where
our
monies
and
resources
are
spent,
given
the
actual
needs
of
the
time
and
to
commit
this
largest
sum
in
purple
map,
but
for
11
years
with
an
escalator
and
it's
interesting.
I
just
saw
that
letter
that
was
distributed.
F
It
was
set
by
Miss
Cooke,
but
it
was
copied
on
mayor.
Reilly
was
copy
with
coffee.
You
know,
I
just
think
once
you
put
it
out
there,
you
commit
for
10
11
years,
we're
not
going
backwards
on
this
thing.
So
I
I
also
worry
that
this
will
encourage
others
to
come
and
seek
long-term
commitments
from
the
city
for
assistance
in
the
missions
that
they've
got.
F
A
F
K
F
So
it's
impossible
to
tell
today,
just
in
a
percentage
basis
of
the
allocation
that
we're
getting
how
what
was
sent
into
that
allocation.
We're
committing
eight
years
down
the
road
nine
years
now
they're
ten
ten
years
down
the
road
that
this
is
just
an
absolute
dollar
commitment
of
1.4
million
dollars
with
an
escalator
over
the
course
of
11
years.
That's
what
we
gots
to
vote
on
tonight
outside
of
the
budget
process
by
the
way
we're
not
doing
this
inside
of
the
budget
process,
we're
doing
it
outside
of
the
budget
process.
F
That
I
think
we
should
think
about
that
a
little
bit,
and
it
gives
me
some
concern
that
we're
doing
this
outside
the
budget
process.
This
is
going
to
become
the
norm
that
people
come
and
ask
us
for
funding
at
any
time
in
any
given
year
outside
the
budget
process,
and
we
simply
approve
it
so
I
see
mr.
Dena
probably
opened
up
a
can
of
warm
Sun.
N
Thank
you
is
that
better,
the
legal
department
has
not
had
an
opportunity
or
had
any
input
into
this
agreement
yet,
and
so
we
would
like
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
A
question
that
has
come
up
preliminary
to
us
is
the
long-term
commitment.
Council
is
aware
it
does
not
have
the
authority
to
bind
future
councils
if
it's
a
matter
of
a
governmental
and
legislative
function.
N
H
O
O
O
We
caught
something
will
Craig,
we
set
a
let
out,
we
put
it
on
the
edit,
add
it
to
the
agenda
put
on
the
gym,
but
over
two
weeks
ago
that's
the
gender
committee
meeting,
so
I
mean
well
one
week
ago
it
seemed
like
really
behind
the
ball
and
we
stay
behind
the
ball
cuz
every
every
meeting.
We
then
attendance.
So
what
what
are
we
doing?
I
mean
I
am
supposed
to
be
on
the
agenda
that
we
need
to
study.
We
get
some
an
agenda
and
said
this
will
be
saying
under
separate
cover.
This
will.
M
O
N
J
Into
cooperation
council
I
sent
this
on
the
11th
of
July,
and
this
is
the
17th
and
I
sent
it
in
time
for
the
agenda
meeting.
That's
why
it's
in
our
packet,
so
for
me,
I,
suggest
that
there
was
enough
time
for
our
legal
staff
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
make
recommendations
at
this
meeting.
Actually,
if
there
were
any
amendments,
I'm,
just
not
sure
what
the
hesitation
really
is
with
regard
to
something
that
I
think
is
just
a
much
better
model.
J
J
A
I
I
I
read
its
memo
and
the
numbers
speak
for
themselves
and
there's
no
question
that
we're
on
the
exact
right
track
and
what
this
has
done
for
our
community
beyond
just
Performing
Arts
bringing
in
students
an
educational
component
of
this
and
you're
right.
We
can't
put
a
dollar
number
on
those
benefits:
I'm
just
concerned
about
being
fiscally
responsible
fiscal
prudence.
This
is
I
read
this
agreement
that
if
we
sign
this
saying,
I'll
give
this
to
be
I've
already
beside
this
agreement.
I
Maybe
I'm
reading
it
wrong
and
I
can't
take
my
lawyer
hat
off,
but
it
looks
like
we're
locked
in
to
a
specific
dollar
amount
for
fiscal
years,
2019
and
21.4
five
million
dollars.
Then
it
goes
up
to
1.5
million
in
fiscal
years
to
2000,
21,
22
and
23.
So
it
might
like
several
questions.
I
have
along
this
lines
are:
what
is
the
precedent
for
doing
this
so
I?
Do
we
have
this
kind
of
agreement
for
our
other
facilities
like
the
dock
street,
he
gives
the
the
Raleigh
Hartley
and
the
aquarium
do.
N
M
N
A
certain
period
of
time
to
reimburse
the
river
dogs
for
that,
but
that's
a
capital
facility
improvement.
It's
not
an
operation,
it's
not
an
operation
stream
of
revenue,
that's
been
given,
and
so,
for
example,
the
river
dogs
gives
those
are
different
because
they
deal
with
capital
expenditures
as
opposed
to
operation
and
maintenance,
but
to
go
back
also
to
your
comp,
your
question,
council,
member
and
I.
Don't
wrestle.
I
N
There
was
nothing
there
was
no
backstop
in
the
original
agreement.
That
said,
if
there's
an
emergency
or
if
funds
are
not
available,
then
the
city
can
change
the
amount
of
the
revenue
or
the
funding
that
is
giving,
and
so
that
would
be
one
of
the
questions
and
that
I
would
be
asking
the
attorney
for
the
for
the
GMC
is
okay.
N
If
we
have
an
emergency,
you
know,
should
we
not
have
the
opportunity,
if
it's
in
the
best
interests
of
the
city,
to
suspend
paying
the
money
for
one
year
so
that
those
are
the
types
of
questions
that
that
I
would
ask
that
we
get
into
another
one,
sir?
Is
they
asked
about
amending
the
contract
for
a
very
robust
educational
program?
N
However,
there's
no
tie
between
the
money
that
they're
asking
for
and
the
robust
educational
program,
so
so
I
would
have
said,
hey
you
know,
you're,
making
these
amendments
shouldn't
some
portion
of
that
revenue
be
dedicated
to
the
educational
program.
So
those
are
the
things
certain
and
I
just
didn't
feel
that
I
had
the
authority
to
go
out
and
renegotiate,
but
those
would
be
some
of
the
things
that
I'd
be
talking
about
because
we
did
not.
This
did
not
come
through
city,
the
legal
department
initially
before.
I
That
question,
so
the
do
you
agree
with
myosin
my
question
that
the
way
that
this
document
is
written
now
that
we
are
legally
locked
in
for
specific
amounts
for
specific
years,
so
that
if
we,
if
we
have
a
recession-
and
we
can,
we
got
the
we
were
locked
in
regardless
of
any
contingencies
on
this-
that's
how
I'm
reading
this
agreement
would
you
disagree
with
me
on
that?
Are.
I
But
along
that
LODs,
if
there's
enough
as
an
option
to
try
to
pursue,
but
the
way
this
document
is
written,
we
do
not
have
much
legal
wiggle
room
to
get
out
of.
There
is
a
financial
problem,
and
that's
that's
how
markets
ournament
to
me
and
I
want
to
support
the
Gilyard
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it
is
solvent
and
then
the
hasn't
money
that
it
needs.
I
But
as
this
or
seeking
just
said,
we're
not
putting
this
through
the
normal
budgeting
process
and
we
were
legally
locking
ourselves
in
to
a
fixed
number
for
a
fixed
number
of
years.
It
may
be.
We
have
some
legal
option
to
maneuver
out
of
that,
but
that
that's
what's
concerning
me,
I'm,
just
not
sure
that
we
have.
We
have
a
personal
responsibility,
this
member
dragging
along
oh.
Q
Now
it
basically
says
the
same
thing
that
you
said
in
them
in
the
letter,
except
this
is
from
the
actual
boss,
I'm
going
to
read
billions,
because
it's
three
points
in
tears
have
really
are
asserting
what
we're
talking
so
the
fun
needs
associated
for
the
support.
The
gmc's
operations
of
the
billions-
and
it
relates
to
disagreement-
must
be
recommended
by
the
mayor
to
counsel
and
approval
by
counsel
and
the
overall
annual
fund
appropriation
process.
Q
Q
Those
words
GMC
will
need
to
build
up
exit,
just
as
we
Priestley
have
a
healthy
on
the
side
front
amount
as
it
begins
its
use
of
the
facility
when
the
Goyard
Center
completes
construction
in
small
cities,
financial
investment
can
aid
in
its
operation
should
be
experienced
to
be
required
annually,
moving
forward
with
the
overall
support,
slowly
reducing
this
time
after
the
first
three
to
five
years
of
operations
for
the
optimist,
but
the
eight
of
us
that
were
here
at
that
time
known.
That
was
a
very
optimistic
time
for
us.
Q
Pmc
is
already
off
to
a
great
start,
with
the
outreach
efforts.
That's
what
we've
brought
to
us,
accounting
for
1350
so
well,
we
know
they're
gonna
lose
money.
The
first
few
years,
we're
very
optimistic
projection.
That's
you
know.
Our
supports
will
add
Windell
after
three
to
five
years,
and
the
big
emphasis
is
on
outreach
now
Gregory's
letter
and
the
follow-up
letter
have
given
us
all
the
numbers
that
commendeth
amount
of
educational
outreach.
Q
Q
Q
Basically,
all
we've
done
is
carry
that
forward,
but
the
rest
of
that
store
was
oh,
my
God
look
at
all
these
all
this
office
space.
We,
the
city,
are
going
to
have.
Okay,
that
we
thought
we'll
have
faithful.
We
gonna
make
millions,
we
gonna
save
millions
of
dollars
by
not
having
to
go
downtown
and
rent
places
else.
Q
Q
Q
R
You
you
know
the
Gilyard
spent
a
part
of
my
life
ever
since
I
was
in
elementary
school
went
to
shows,
went
to
concerts
when
I
was
in
high
school.
I
graduated
got
my
high
school
diploma.
There,
the
difference
between
back
then
and
today
was
we
were
the
only
show
in
town
back
then,
and
if
you
wanted
to
go
see
something
you
have
to
drive
a
Colombian
go
to
the
Frank
McGuire
Arena,
Carolina
Coliseum,
or
something
will
only
show
now
we
have
a
world-class
facility
now
and
that
is
at
raw.
R
It
pulls
people
through
our
city
and
it's
just
beginning,
because
because
it's
so
new
in
the
renovations
I
mean
I
can
remember
walking
into
my
first
show
there,
which
happened
to
be
porgy
and
bess,
I,
think
and
thinking
wow.
This
is
a
total
different
place
than
it
used
to
be,
and
for
me
it's
worth
the
investment
and
it's
worth
us
putting
our
you
know
putting
ourselves
forward
so
that
we
can
have
that
confidence
to
pull
money
in
from
other
places
as
well
and
and
make
this
happen.
S
L
N
N
Basic
South
Carolina
law
for
municipal
governments
is
that
if
you
are
acting
in
what's
called
a
governmental
or
legislative
functions,
you
do
not
have
the
authority
to
find
future
councils.
If
you
are
acting
in
what's
called
a
business
or
proprietary
area.
Yes,
you
can
bind
future
councils
as
long
as
the
agreement
that
you're
talking
about
long-term
is
reasonable
in
its
term,
it's
fair
and
that
there's
a
benefit
to
to
the
citizens.
In
this
situation
you
know
governmental
functions.
B
That
was
the
only
thing
that
I
didn't
see
in
that
agreement
that
I'm
used
to
seeing
in
similar
operating
support
for
in
municipalities
or
public
bodies
that
are
in
private
public
partnership.
So
that
was
my
point.
I
would
never
say
that
we
should
not
support
the
failure
and
I.
Certainly
didn't
want
to
be
thought
of
in
that
direction,
but
I
do
think
that
we
should
talk
seriously
about
how
to
have
some
sort
of
formula
that
would
allow
us
to
see
a
reduction
when
the
Gilyard
is
thriving
in
and
reducing
gravity.
B
F
You
can
thank
you
just
briefly,
regardless
of
whether
this
is
the
gilliard
or
whatever
it
is
I
mean
I've
heard
the
word
push
back.
This
is
debate.
We
are
been
placed
in
front
of
us
an
agreement
a
week
ago
that
commits
a
serious
amount
of
money
more
than
fifteen
million
dollars
of
the
city
funds
and
to
ask
some
questions
is
a
legitimate
way
to
go
about
this
debate.
F
Q
F
F
A
Yeah
I'm
gonna
making
a
couple
of
quick
comments,
I'm
a
call
for
the
question,
so
one
of
the
things
and
I
think
that
without
a
doubt
and
I
see
that
the
folks
from
the
Goyard
management
company
in
the
audience,
let
there
be
no
mistake.
There's
nobody
on
this
council
that
denies
that
the
Goyard
is
an
important
part
of
our
city
to
have
a
city
size
of
Charleston
have
the
type
of
cultural
facilities
that
we
have
is
is
absolutely
incredible,
and
quite
frankly,
if
it
wasn't
for
one
very,
very
great
philanthropist
in
our
community.
A
In
order
to
make
that
happen,
we
wouldn't
have
facility
that
we
have
their
day.
So
I
would
say
that
that
there's
irregardless
of
the
vote.
There
should
be
no
question
that
this
city
supports
the
gay
art.
I'll
also
say
that
I
personally,
have
all
the
faith
in
the
world
of
the
Gilyard
management
company,
which
Steve
Bedard
at
the
helm
and
I.
A
Think
he's
done
a
tremendous
job
while
he's
been
there
and
I
think
he
will,
as
he
continued
to
be
there,
we're
getting
ready
to
put
forward
a
ten-year
commitment
and
that
may
or
may
not
exceed
his
time
there.
So
we
need
to
be
mindful,
but
at
the
same
time
you
notice
I
said,
may
or
may
not
he
kind
of
look
down
and
won't
talk
about
it.
C
A
But
but
the
point
being,
is
that
irregardless
this
council,
whether
with
us
or
10
years
from
now,
it's
not
gonna?
Let
the
Gilyard
fail,
carry
we're
going
to
find
them
we're
going
to
make
sure
it
we
always
have,
and
we
always
will
because
it's
something
that
for
our
community
we're
so
lucky
to
have
and
blessed
to
have,
and
we
won't
ever
deny
that.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
call
for
the
question
and
I'm
thinking,
we
may
be
short
hands.
E
Speak
now,
I
really
believe
and
I.
Thank
you
everything
that
you
said,
everything
that
you
said
and
others
said,
and
that's
healthy
to
be,
but
I
do
think.
We
need
to
recognize
chairman
of
the
board,
the
CFO,
the
members
of
the
board,
miss
Barclay
and
one
person
and
a
couple
people,
that's
not
in
this
room,
obviously
is
Martha
rivers,
Ingram
and
Murali,
and
others
that
put
together
the
legal
team,
all
the
board
members,
all
the
people
who
have
given
to
the
finest
public-private
partnership
in
the
history
of
Charleston,
South
Carolina.
That's
a
long
history.
F
C
C
C
C
C
Accession
and
he
discussed
that
and
came
out
devoted
to
the
purpose
that
land
for
that
he
shat
on
that
piece
of
property,
the
piece
of
property
right
next
door,
food.
We
are
still
negotiating
that
piece
of
that.
That
last
line
we
received
that
information
or
information
that
go
with
all
that
I
move
approval
of
the
realization.
B
A
O
C
C
P
C
P
M
Gianna
and
counselor
we
actually
I
was
trying
to
pull
the
putt
the
PUD
language
up.
I,
don't
have
the
actual,
am
I
in
front
pain,
but
we
can
research
that
it's
actually
28
total
units,
councilmember
Mooney
and
four
of
those
are
to
be
workforce.
That's
the
total
number,
but
not
actually
have
that.
Actually
am
I
but
I'll
see
if
I.
P
E
T
Mcweeny
I
can
answer
councilmember
Michels
question:
it
is
it's
a
hundred
and
twenty
percent
AMI
and
the
rent
is
thirty,
three
percent,
which
is
not
usually
what
we
do.
The
PUD
and
I
went
back
and
checked
the
minutes
from
August
2016
before
council,
and
you
all
ask
questions
about
it.
It
was
clear
that
was
what
was
what
was
approved
as
part
of
the
PUD.
There
was
no
mistake
in
the
document
itself
and
the
workforce.
Housing
agreement
reflects
exactly
what
was
in
the
bud
and
what
was
approved
by
council.