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This is the Charlotte City Council Public Forum & Business Meeting for January 27, 2020. Thanks for joining us!
A
Welcome
to
the
Charlotte
City
Council
January
27th
meeting.
This
is
one
of
our
regular
business
meetings
that
we
have
to
carry
on
the
work
that
builds
this
great
city.
In
addition
to
that,
our
business
items
that
we
actually
have
on
an
agenda
and
we
work
through.
We
also
tonight
have
our
public
forum,
and
so
we
will
have
speakers
coming
down
to
petition
the
City
Council.
So
we
usually
start
with
introductions
and
I
think
we'll
start
with
our
city
attorney
and
we'll
work
our
way
around.
The
diet.
D
A
So
we
begin
our
meeting
with
an
invocation
or
an
expression
of
inspiration
followed
by
our
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
The
invocation
is
really
intended
to
solemnize
our
deliberations,
and
so
we
celebrate
the
diversity
of
religion
and
faith
in
this
community
and
you
are
welcome
to
participate
as
councilmember
Tok
Bakari
provides
our
inspiration
for
this
evening.
If
you
so
choose
following
that,
we
will
have
the
pledge
of
allegiance
from
Cub
Scout
Pack
55
at
Myers
Park
Presbyterian
Church,
who
is
led
by
dent
Dave,
Han
and
so
I'm
gonna.
A
K
A
L
L
Thank
you
for
for
the
police
and
fire
first
responders
for
all
those
who
put
their
lives
in
harm's
way
to
keep
us
safe.
Thank
you
for
and
and
and
prayers
for,
the
heroes
that,
in
these
last
days,
have
been
taken
from
us
and
we're
all
still
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
why
that
has
happened.
But
we
are
thinking
and
our
hearts
are
heavy
because
of
that,
and
thank
you
for
all
those
who
make
the
time
to
come
down
to
the
council
chambers
and
champion
the
things
that
they
truly
are
passionate
about.
L
C
A
We
have
this
public
forum
so
that
people
can
come
down
and
speak
to
us
about
the
issues,
as
mr.
Bukhari
said,
they're
passionate
about.
However,
we
cannot
always
address
every
issue.
So
what
happens
as
a
result
of
your
coming
down
and
speaking
to
us
is
that
we
would
have
then
the
city
manager
and
his
staff
will
get
a
response
to
you
that
is
written
and
will
be
sent
to
you
and
share
it
with
all
of
Council.
A
So
the
council
doesn't
respond
tonight
because
most
of
the
issues
that
we
have
there,
we
either
have
no
response
immediately,
but
we
want
to
especially
give
you
the
correct
information
about
things,
and
so
that
will
be
sent
to
you
by
email
or
mail
or
a
call
from
a
staff
member.
So
we
will
listen
carefully
and
and
follow
the
lead
for
what
you
asked
for,
but
before
we
do
that,
I'd
like
to
actually
talk
about
our
awards
and
recognitions.
A
Tonight
we
have
as
a
practice,
recognized
through
proclamations
various
groups,
an
interest
that
helped
contribute
to
our
city's
well-being.
And
tonight
I
would
like
to
ask
mr.
mark
Blackwell
of
justice
member
ministries,
as
well
as
other
members
of
the
community
representing
on
human
trafficking.
Charlotte
to
please
stand
where
you
are.
Thank
you
and
I'm
gonna
ask
councilmember
Egleston
to
read
the
proclamation
and
then
I
believe
you've
signed
up
to
speak
laughter.
A
E
In
other
case
cases,
victims
are
lied
to
assaulted,
threatened
or
manipulated
into
working
under
inhumane,
illegal
or
otherwise
unacceptable
conditions,
whereas
even
trafficking
awareness
month,
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
the
City
of
Charlotte
and
Mecklenburg
County
to
address
the
issue
of
sex
and
labor
trafficking
in
our
community
and
whereas
human
trafficking,
Charlotte
and
all
the
local
programs
and
services.
Thank
the
City
of
Charlotte
Mecklenburg
County
on
making
human
trafficking
a
priority
in
2020.
E
L
J
M
Thank
You
mayor
and
council
members,
my
name
is
Mark
blackwell
I'm,
the
director
of
justice
ministries.
We
serve
survivors
of
sex
trafficking
in
the
region
and
just
want
to
again
recognize
my
co-workers
up
standing
to
my
left.
This
is
a
solid
group
of
people,
that's
represented
here.
That
has
been
doing
some
great
work
in
our
community.
We
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
this.
Recognition
is
as
passionate
work
for
all
of
us
serving
our
neighbors.
Really,
here's
what
we're
doing
and
if
we
ought
to
stand
alongside
us,
is
just
special
to
us.
M
M
A
A
Would
like
to
ask
the
main
members
of
the
mayor's
mentoring,
Alliance
advisory
board
to
please
stand.
Victor
Nicholson,
Dion,
wimbush
Dana
said
Barry
Alexander,
Arrington,
George,
bugs
I
recalled
well,
look
chic,
Jefferson,
Kenyatta,
wheeler,
Kevin,
Campbell,
Kimberly,
Roseboro,
Rochelle,
Joyce,
Ross,
dannis,
Rashad,
Rashad,
Miller,
Tracy,
Campbell,
Tiffany
Johnson,
and
our
staff
Tom
wash
our
I'd
like
to
recognize
this
group.
We
have
a
formal
proclamation
if
one
of
you
would
come
down
and
receive
it.
I
would
certainly
appreciate
that,
but
I'm
not
gonna,
read
all
of
the
park.
A
Lemay
ssin,
but
I
want
to
say
that
it
was
a
week
ago,
a
week
a
week
and
a
week
ago
that
we
had
I
think
over
400
people
in
a
room
celebrating
the
work
that
this
committee
does.
This
advisory
board
is
very
active,
making
sure
that
people
in
our
community
that
need
someone
to
be
a
role
model
to
help
them
navigate
through
life.
They
make
it
possible
there's
nothing
better
than
to
see
a
number
of
these
young
people
recognize
the
people
that
give
them
direction
and
their
gratefulness
for
doing
that.
A
So
we
have
a
really
good
time.
The
music's
really
loud
and
the
kids
love
to
eat,
but
I
think
the
real
gratification
for
our
community
comes
as
a
result
of
your
work,
and
so,
whereas
J,
each
January
national
mentoring
month
celebrates
the
selfless
contributions
of
mentors
and
encourages
residents,
become
mentors
to
access
use
and
reading
reaching
their
highest
potential.
A
A
A
J
N
O
Once
again,
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
problem
with
this
TS
buses
and
how
poorly
they
ride
now,
after
18
months
of
talking
to
you
about
this,
I
really
feel
like
that.
There's
a
certain
amount
of
apathy
and
indifference
on
your
part
towards
this
issue
and
I
appreciate
your
looking
into
doing
one
thing:
I've
asked
you
to
do
for
the
last
18
months.
O
Come
ride
the
bus
with
me
now
I'm,
not
gonna,
lambaste,
our
three
newest
members
of
council,
because
they
haven't
had
a
dog
in
this
fight,
but
Mr
Graham
about
a
large
number
of
your
constituents,
actually
use
STS
and
I
will
for
you
to
talk
to
them
and
find
out.
What's
going
on
all
I'm
asking
is
for
this
council
to
appoint
a
representative
of
two
they're
good
for
ride
on
the
bus.
That's
all
I'm,
asking
we'll
pick
you
up
on
Davidson
streets.
A
handicap
interests
of
this
building
rides
you
for
about
an
hour.
O
Ask
for
one
hour
out
of
your
busy
schedule.
I
would
be
willing
to
bet
money
if
it
was
the
Lynx
line
or
the
tear
up
the
streets
trolley
line
or
if
I
was
connected
with
a
scoffer
franchise.
You'll
be
all
over
this,
but
you're
not.
But
yet
there
are
30,000
people
that
utilize,
this
T
it
and
when
they
get
on
the
bus
and
ride
and
get
off
and
complain,
they're
worse
off
for
the
ride,
then,
when
they
got
on
the
bus.
O
Folks,
we've
got
a
problem
and
all
I'm
asking
you
to
do
because
city
agencies
don't
like
to
talk
to
other
city
agencies,
especially
if
they
don't
talk
bad
too.
So
you've
got
a
leadership
problem
from
above
y'all
not
being
interested
in
this
and
the
cats
people
end
up
not
paying
the
attention
either
because
they
don't
feel
they
have
to.
You
haven't
experienced
part
of
it.
Thank
You,
mr.
Lee,
you
know
where
I
am,
and
you
got
my
number.
We.
N
Q
I
always
change
up
before
I
get
to
where
I
am
now
I
want
to
say.
First
of
all,
happy
birthday
to
my
daughter.
We
just
turned
33
today,
I
couldn't
imagine
what
it
would
be
like
for
me
to
be
a
father
and
be
homeless
in
this
city,
trying
to
find
a
place
for
me
and
my
family
to
go.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do?
I
may
introduce
you
for
the
time
that
I
have
left
to
some
people
that
live
in
your
city.
Q
Q
Since
October
she's
from
New
York
young
man
he's
living
on
the
streets
with
a
one-year-old
child
can't
find
anywhere
to
go
no
family,
no
friends,
no,
where
to
go
young
lady
22
years
old,
got
a
one-year-old
daughter,
she's
staying
at
a
church
members
house
now
she's
coming
out
of
domestic
violence
from
a
stepfather
who
she
was
living
with
her
mother
and
she
got
kicked
out
because
her
mother
believed
the
stepfathers
that
would
believe
in
her
twenties
28
year
old
man.
With
the
four
year
old
son
living
in
your
city
on
the
streets
he's
28.
Q
He
worked
his
temporary
sir
temper.
He
works
at
a
temp
service,
but
he's
living
with
his
sister.
Now
he
has
no,
he
hasn't
had
a.
She
doesn't
have
a
car
young
lady
she's,
just
getting
out
of
treatment,
just
three
girls,
seven
six
and
four
months
old
she's,
a
graduate
student
she's
actively
looking
for
care
for
her
children
and
you
and
I
have
a
whole
list
of
folks.
That's
been
calling
me
over
the
last
few
weeks
that
need
our
help.
With
the
team
that
we're
putting
together.
S
Mayor
Lyles,
City
Council
I'm
here
today
in
support
of
a
ban
on
circus
animals.
Your
strategy
session
on
January
6th
was
devoted
to
addressing
violence
in
Charlotte
to
address
violence.
The
connection
between
empathy
toward
animals
and
empathy
toward
humans
is
crucial.
This
involves
promoting
positive
human
and
animal
relationships
to
help
end
violence.
We
must
end
the
exposure
of
children
to
all
forms
of
animal
abuse.
Cruel
circus
acts.
Exploiting
and
abusing
abusing
animals
must
end
I.
S
Provided
copies
of
reports
examining
the
links
between
animal
abuse
and
violence,
as
well
as
the
connection
between
violence
of
children
who
are
exposed
to
it
and
the
reality
of
violence
in
our
society,
scientific
findings
linked
empathy
for
humans
to
empathy
for
animals.
These
seeds
are
planted
at
an
early
age,
caring
and
advocating
for
animals,
and
caring
for
humans
are
not
mutually
exclusive.
Caring
for
animals
and
humans
is
part
of
humanity
watching
animals
forced
to
perform
abusive
unnatural
acts
at
the
hands
of
humans
using
painful
weapons
instills.
S
It
young
minds
that
it
is
ok
to
hurt
animals,
especially
for
the
sake
of
entertainment.
Instead,
we
need
to
teach
empathy
and
compassion
for
all
animals
in
order
to
discourage
tendencies
towards
more
serious,
violent
acts
later
in
life.
We
are
not
against
circuses.
We
are
against
all
abuse
and
exploitation
of
animals.
Holding
on
to
these
cruel
and
unnecessary
acts
is
not
only
bad
for
animals,
but
also
the
minds
of
our
young
children.
We
are
obligated
to
help
them,
learn,
empathy
and
compassion
for
each
other
and
for
animals.
S
T
Mayor
and
city
council,
it
is
my
pleasure
to
be
able
to
speak
with
y'all
again
this
evening
regarding
Charlotte's
need
to
adopt
an
anti
tethering
ordinance
to
ban
or
restrict
unattended
tethering
of
dogs.
As
you
know,
currently,
in
the
City
of
Charlotte,
there
is
no
ordinance
in
place
to
protect
dogs
from
being
tethered
indefinitely
and
in
all
elements.
T
Additionally,
there
is
no
law
in
place
to
protect
people
and
children
from
the
psychological
effect.
Psychological
effects.
Tethering
dogs
for
long
periods
of
time
causes
the
American
Veterinary
Association
in
the
center
of
Disease
Control
conducted
studies
and
tethered
dogs
are
2.8
times
more
likely
to
attack
and
5.4
times
more
likely
to
attack
children
under
12.
Just
in
this
past
month,
a
nine-year-old
girl
and
a
71
year
old
elderly
woman
were
brutally
attacked
in
our
area.
T
Charlotte
resident
Tara
stab
said
her
neighbor
has
a
dog
that
lives
that
lives
by
her
and
the
dog
is
on
a
chain
and
has
broken
loose
and
tried
to
attack
the
neighborhood
children.
Waiting
at
the
bus
stop
Charlotte
resident
Emily
Weaver
said
she
has
a
dog
that
lives
in
her
neighborhood
that
is
chained
indefinitely
and
lunges
aggressively
at
her
and
her
children
when
they
walk
outside.
She
knows
that
if
the
dog
broke
the
chain,
it
would
attack
her
and
her
kids.
T
There
is
a
good
reason:
there's
a
growing
trend
to
ban
or
at
minimum
put
time
restrictions
on
unattended
dog
tethering
all
over
the
US.
It
is
inhumane
to
the
animal
and
it
is
a
serious
public
safety
issue.
Additionally,
United
for
Animals,
which
I'm
the
chair
of
and
Holly's
hope
are
organizations
in
Charlotte
that
provide
free,
fencing
specifically
for
families
of
tethered
dogs
who
generally
care
about
their
dog,
but
need
financial
help.
T
U
Good
evening,
mayor
Lyles
and
City
Council,
the
City
Attorney's
report
regarding
performing
wild
animal
bands,
offers
three
alternative
resolutions
of
the
issue
banning
performing
wild
animal
acts
in
their
entirety.
Banning
bullhooks
are
taking
no
action.
Only
one
option
of
full
bands
will
address
the
animal
welfare
and
public
safety
concerns
we've
raised.
Banning
bullhooks
would
just
ban
one
weapon
used
on
one
species
of
wild
animal.
The
elephant
anything
can
be
used
as
a
weapon
by
trainers,
including
a
shovel
or
broom.
Once
they
have
taught
the
elephant
to
fear.
U
Any
device
brandished
by
its
trainer
banning
the
bull
hook
does
not
eliminate
the
cruelty.
The
training
methods
behind
the
scenes
remain
the
same.
There
is
no
way
to
force
these
animals
to
perform
these
silly
tricks
other
than
through
fear
and
physical
abuse.
Further
a
Bobeck
ban
does
not
address
the
use
of
other
wild
animals
such
as
zebras
bears,
tigers,
lions,
camels
and
primates.
Other
devices
are
used
on
these
animals
such
as
tasers
and
whips.
Banning
the
use
of
wild
animals
and
traveling
shows
would
be
the
most
effective
method
to
alleviate
animal
abuse.
U
This
approach
is
not
only
simpler
to
enforce.
It
also
recognizes
that
wild
animals
suffer
from
the
constant
confinement
inherent
with
life
on
the
road.
A
bull
hook.
Ban
also
does
not
solve
the
public
safety
concern.
With
no
regulations
in
place
to
require
medical
testing
of
these
animals.
They
are
often
infected
with
tuberculosis,
which
is
easily
communicable
to
humans,
not
to
mention
the
frequency
with
which
these
animals
break
free
and
do
harm
to
themselves
and
to
the
public.
U
There
are
countless
organizations
that
have
recommended
that,
since
federal
and
state
wide
regulation
and
enforcement
is
lacking,
cities
must
take
action
to
protect
these
animals
and
the
public
welfare.
The
City
of
Charlotte
has
a
duty
to
step
in
and
an
act,
an
ordinance
that
will
curtail
animal
abuse
and
protects
protect
the
city
citizens.
It
is
time
to
ban
this
outdated,
inherently
cruel,
wild
animal
act
from
coming
to
our
city.
Thank
you.
V
Good
evening
Council
tonight,
I
would
like
to
speak
on
the
topic
of
violence
and
how
we
can
make
our
city
of
Charlotte
a
safe
place
to
live.
The
root
of
all
oppression
is
the
idea
that
some
lives
matter
more
than
others.
The
discrimination
is
learned
in
childhood
when
we
are
taught
to
disregard
the
lives
of
certain
animals
simply
because
they
are
different
than
to
others.
V
While
some
animals
are
destined
to
be
loved
family
companions,
others
are
inherently
doomed
to
a
life
of
abuse
and
exploitation.
For
the
sake
of
entertainment
and
pleasure,
the
problem
is
that
by
the
time
a
child
has
enrolled
into
school
before
they
are
exposed
to
bullying
racism,
sexism
and
homophobia.
The
foundation
is
already
laid
that,
because
some
beings
look
differently
than
others,
they
are
to
be
loved
or
exploited.
V
There
is
violence
in
the
way
that
we
leave
them
outdoors
to
pace
and
shake
and
the
extreme
weather,
with
no
comfort
available.
There
is
violence
in
the
way
we
break
their
bodies
and
spirits
to
perform
for
us
and
concrete
jungles,
far
from
their
homes
and
potential
for
happiness.
I
bring
this
to
you
today,
because
we
as
a
community,
allow
these
and
Justices
to
continue.
We
must
not
forget
that
our
children
are
watching
and
taking
note
becoming
the
people
they
see
around
them.
V
J
W
That's
quite
an
introduction.
My
name
is
Gail
Thompson
I'm,
the
North
Carolina
State
Director
for
the
Humane
Society
of
the
United
States
I'm
here
tonight
to
support
the
ban
on
the
use
of
animals
in
circuses.
As
a
childhood
fondness
for
animals,
I
attended
circuses
many
times
with
my
family
excitedly
watching
animals
perform
tricks.
What
I
did
what
I
didn't
know
was
what
went
on
behind
the
scenes.
I
didn't
know
the
animals
walked
in
a
perfectly
straight
line
and
jumped
through
rings
of
fire
because
they
were
cruelly
forced
to
do
so.
W
My
parents
certainly
didn't
realize
that
those
incredibly
powerful
wild
and
wild
animals
were
unpredictable
and
had
the
potential
to
attack
escape
or
lash
out
at
any
time.
What
I
know
now
paints
an
entirely
different
picture.
Not
only
do
animals
use
in
circuses
and
traveling
shows
suffer,
but
they
pose
a
significant
safety
risk
to
those
around
them.
Animal
trainers
have
been
attacked
and
sometimes
killed
in
front
of
horrified
audiences.
W
Escaped
animals
have
injured
or
compared
lessly
clothes
to
members
of
the
public.
In
2013,
a
woman
attending
a
circus
in
Kansas
came
within
three
feet
of
an
escaped
tiger
in
a
public
restroom
in
2018,
sheriff's
deputies
in
Michigan
responded
to
a
jackknifed
semi
truck
and
discovered
that
the
rig
contained
eight
600-pound
tigers
on
their
way
to
the
circus.
In
response
to
instances
like
these,
the
public's
enthusiasm
for
the
use
of
wild
animals
has
been
dwindling.
W
Many
circuses
are
choosing
to
modify
their
shows
to
focus
on
extraordinary
human
performers
circus
Vargas
long
ago,
eliminated
all
animal
acts
and
has
seen
its
attendance
numbers
grow.
Circa
Tahlia,
which
is
appeared
in
Charlotte,
features
a
product-based
performer.
These
shows
allow
residents
to
enjoy
the
thrills
of
a
circus
without
putting
the
public
or
animals
at
risk.
W
Policymakers
are
responding
as
citizens
express
concern
about
the
appearance
of
wild
animal
shows
in
their
communities.
Since
2014
62
cities
and
states
have
banned
the
use
of
wild
animals.
Charlotte
is
arguably
one
of
the
most
animal
friendly
and
progressive
cities
in
North
Carolina,
in
that
case,
I
urge
the
council
to
join
the
trend
at
prohibiting
the
use
of
wild
animals.
Thank.
X
Even
America
even
council,
it's
good
to
see
some
of
you
again,
the
three
new
council
members.
Congratulations
on
your
victory!
I
look
forward
to
dealing
with
you
in
the
future.
First
thing
I
want
to
do
is
thank
everybody
for
last
year's
best
mr.
jump
last
year's
budget-
very
fair.
You
guys
did
a
lot
of
good
stuff
for
us
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
it
didn't
go
on
notice,
and
we
did
appreciate
that.
X
However,
obviously
there
are
some
things
missing
which
are,
or
else
I
wouldn't
be
here
this
evening.
One
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
address
is
this
city
is
growing
leaps
and
bounds.
There
is
expansion
on
the
light
rail
on
the
way.
There's
expansion
at
the
airport,
the
infrastructure
cities
I
mean
the
city-
is
blowing
up
with
that
you're
going
to
have
to
provide
a
workforce
to
provide
service
for
these
people.
A
lot
of
the
things
that
happen
around
here,
don't
ever
shut
down
the
light
rail
doesn't
stop
rolling
the
toilets,
don't
stop
flushing.
X
The
airport
is
always
moving
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
address,
to
recruit
new
talent
and
to
retain
the
talent.
We
have
now
is:
we
have
to
start
looking
at
a
shift
differential,
second
and
third
shift
working
weekends
working
holidays.
These
are
all
huge
sacrifices
that
we
make
for
this
city
that
we
have
a
hard
time
recruiting
people
to
come
and
work.
These
jobs
put
yourself
in
this
position.
X
If
you
were
looking
for
work
and
you
came
to
us
and
you
interviewed,
and
we
decided
to
offer
you
a
job-
and
we
said,
oh
by
the
way
you're
going
to
work.
Third
shift.
Your
weekend
is
going
to
be
Tuesday,
Wednesday
and
you're,
not
gonna
get
to
be
Santa
Claus,
probably
ever
because
you're
gonna
have
to
work
every
Christmas.
Would
you
take
that
job
most
of
you
wouldn't,
but
even
if
you
did,
how
long
would
you
stay
there
before
you
started
looking
at
something
else?
X
So
I
would
ask
the
council
that
you're
getting
ready
to
get
your
budget
together
to
strongly
consider
a
shift
differential
for
both
second
and
third
shift
for
Saturday
and
Sunday
work.
Let
me
throw
a
little
extra
for
people
out
working
on
holidays
and
I.
Think
you'd
have
a
better
time
recruiting
with
excellent
talent
and
retaining
the
talent
that
you
have
I
work
for
the
city.
You
I
will
be
more
than
willing
to
work
with
any
one
of
you
just
send
me
an
email.
Y
Dear
mayor
and
city
council
members
I'm
here
today
to
address
the
issue
of
unattended
tethering
of
dogs
in
our
city.
Most
importantly,
I
want
to
address
the
fact
that
Charlotte
is
falling
behind
either
North
Carolina
cities.
On
this
issue.
We
are
failing
the
animals
of
our
city
and
we
are
letting
them
suffer
tremendously.
Y
Raleigh,
Asheville,
Chapel,
Hill
and
many
more
have
enforced
a
ban
on
the
tethering
of
dogs
with
no
negative
impact
shown
85%
of
the
top
20
cities
in
America
have
a
ban
or
at
minimum
a
time
restriction
on
unattended,
tethering
I
know
that
there
is
a
worry
that
a
band
like
this
would
unfairly
affect
low-income
communities.
I
too,
would
not
want
to
see
that
happen.
Charlotte
has
two
nonprofit
fence
building
organizations.
They
build
fences
free
of
charge
for
low-income
families
that
have
changed
dogs
both
of
these
organizations.
Y
United
for
animals
and
Holly's
Hope
are
ready
to
take
action
if
Charlotte
adopts
an
ordinance
banning
or
creating
a
time
restriction
for
unattended
dogs.
Heathering
dogs
deserve
better
than
to
be
tied
up
with
heavy
chains
and
left
out
in
extreme
temperatures.
24
hours
a
day,
365
days
a
year,
I
appreciate
your
consideration
on
this
topic
and
I
hope
that
you
will
choose
to
do
the
right
thing
and
I'd
needless
suffering
for
so
many
animals
in
our
community.
Thank
you.
K
K
The
second
thing
I'd
like
to
do
is
thank
all
y'all
that
it
choose
to
engage
you
eat
150,
as
we've
been
fighting
for
workers
right
in
the
City
of
Charlotte,
so
but
every
one
of
y'all
that
engages
over
the
year
appreciate
your
special
space,
because
y'all
chose
to
sit
down
and
talk
to
us
when
you
really
didn't
even
have
to,
but
I
make
sure
to
do
a
little
bit
more
see.
K
K
K
So
the
state
of
North
Carolina
has
a
Jim
Crow
law
that
bans
us
from
collective
bargaining.
The
old
Jim
Crow
law
came
up
to
stop
white
employees
and
black
employees
from
getting
together
and
negotiating
with
their
employees,
but
that
doesn't
stop
us
from
meeting
and
collectively
bargain.
Well,
not
collectively,
but
but
me
and
and
bargaining
with
I
was
sitting
down
at
the
table
coming
out
with
the
gentleman's
and
gentlewoman's
ingredient.
So
we
can
sit
down
and
we
can't
advocate
for
ourselves
with
you
guys.
R
E
R
Okay,
but
yeah
I
just
want
to
bring
more
more
foundations
to
like
schools,
and
things
like
that.
Therefore,
I
want
to
sit
down
with
y'all
an
asset
that
we
can
bring
enough
foundation
for
the
City
of
Charlotte
to
bring
everybody
together
and
all
parents
and
all
kids
together.
We
all
can
sit
down
and
we
can
discuss
a
lot
of
positive
things
that
these
kids
are
going
through
or
whatever
like
that,
and
therefore
I
wanted
to
talk
about
gun
violence
in
Charlotte,
North,
Carolina
and
also
I
wanted
to
talk
about
why
we
talk
about
gun
violence.
R
First,
sorry
about
that.
But
yes,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
gun.
Violence
in
Charlotte,
North
Carolina
I,
want
to
you
know,
come
to
a
grooming
day.
You
know
everybody
is
going
through
a
situation
in
life
and
things
like
that,
but
we
also
have
a
lot
of
people.
That's
interesting,
a
lot
of
kids!
That's
you
know
that.
Don't
need
to
see
these
type
of
things
or
whatever
like
that.
R
So
we
realized
that
we
just
you
know
we
come
together
and
we
build
more
community
relationships
and
that
therefore
it
it
won't
be
so
much
violence
going
on
in
the
city
of
Charlotte
and
therefore
we
just
want
to
stop
and
bring
everything
so
equal.
So
therefore,
I'm,
just
like
I,
said
I'm
more
nervous
over
there,
but
it's.
A
Z
Z
The
scientists
who
have
done
work,
the
ex
military
members
who
developed
the
technology
for
military
excuse
me
it
was
it's
originally
developed
as
a
microwave
weapon.
One
of
the
countries
of
the
world
has
taken
steps
to
outlawing
it.
That's
Israel
Israel
has
spent
a
lot
of
money,
a
lot
of
research
on
developing
high-tech,
fast
technology,
but
is
delivered
mainly
through
fiber
optics.
Z
Z
It
could
cause
oxidative
damage,
disruption
of
cell
metabolism,
increased
blood,
brain
barrier,
permeability,
mitat,
melatonin
reduction,
a
disruption
to
brain
glucose
metabolism
and
generation
of
stress
proteins.
This
is
a
microwave
weapon,
that's
being
sort
of
introduced
to
us
as
a
fast
form
of
download
technology.
Z
So
we
can
have
fast
videos,
we
can
have
fast
service
on
our
telephones,
but
there's
not
has
yet
to
be
a
significant
public
debate
in
this
country
about
whether
or
not
us,
the
citizens
and
the
consumers
wish
to
sacrifice
our
health,
not
just
our
health
but
the
health
of
the
environment,
because
it
heats
up
the
atmosphere,
the
health
of
plant
life,
because
it
disrupts
all
forms
of
communication
and
biological
functions
and
of
the
animal
life
I
know
that's.
My
beeper
I
would
like,
if
you
have
a
response,
if
you're
interested
in.
A
Z
AA
AB
Good
evening,
mayor,
councilmembers
I
come
before
you
on
behalf
of
Yui
150,
as
a
city
worker
here
I'm
going
to
piggyback
behind
mr.
Li
agenda
that
was
brought
before
you
all
a
part
of
Yui
150.
Many
concerns
here
for
the
city
workers
happens
to
be,
of
course,
I'm
sure
you
all
are
familiar
with
Medicare
for
all.
You
also
have
heard
time
and
time
again,
affordable,
housing,
myself
being
a
part
of
the
cherry
community.
Mr.
Costain
I've
met
you
on
several
occasions
that
particular
neighborhood
has
undergone
gentrification.
AB
But
for
me
to
stand
here
and
not
present
you
all
that
the
City
of
Charlotte
has
undergone
gentrification.
It's
not
just
a
certain
area
of
this
city,
so
being
a
city
worker
here
my
concern
is
if
we
could
just
take
some
time
and
think
that
if
it
was
our
mother,
if
it
was
our
father,
a
sister,
a
brother
that
we
passed
daily,
that
are
under
the
bridges
that
are
up
going
to
work,
leaving
from
the
shelters
and
transitional
housing,
what
would
we
do?
How
would
we
help
them?
AB
AB
I
know,
there's
some
money
out
there
if
we
could
just
figure
out
a
way
so
where
we
can
open
up
our
hearts
to
the
people
here
in
Charlotte,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
make
this
city
as
great
as
it
is
and
set
the
example
across
the
nation
that
we
take
care
of
our
people.
We
don't
close
our
eye.
We
will
not
act
as
if
the
problem
does
not
exist
and
we
will
do
what
we
can
to
help
whomever
we
can
and
set
the
example
and
the
standard
for
the
other
cities
across
this
nation.
AB
A
A
L
And
I'll
direct
there's
more
towards
manager
Jones,
we
had
a
brief
conversation
as
I
was
asking
my
questions.
I
think
we
all
know
that
longer
term
we
aren't
necessarily
in
the
state
the
future
state.
We
want
to
be
with
smart
parking
and
encoding
the
curb
and
everything
of
that
nature,
but
this
is
obviously
something
that's
incremental.
That
is
a
little
bit
of
you,
know
technical
debt,
so
to
speak,
that
we
need
to
clean
up
in
relation
to
having
multiple
vendors
and
out
there.
L
I
don't
want
to
hold
this
up
and
I
want
to
approve
it,
but
I
do
in
support
edge.
One
ass.
One
thing
that
has
jumped
out
to
me
is
within
the
It
Gets
400
or
so
of
these
of
these
smart
parking
meters
that
we're
going
to
that
we're
going
to
be
approving
for
bringing
them
back
to
a
better
standard
like
the
other
ones.
We
have
I
asked
a
pretty
simple
question
that
I
think
deserves
a
little
more
research,
which
is
the
single
versus
double
spaced
meters.
L
So,
right
now,
this
approach
is
for
single
spaced
meters,
which
means
if
the
number
is
400
and
they
cost
X
dollars.
Apiece,
that's
it
clearly
just
doing
something
as
simple
as
in
this
case,
moving
to
a
double
spaced
meter,
where
it's
one
meter
that
accepts
one
credit
card,
but
it
can
adjust
to
two
spots
clearly,
if
economies
are
where
they
think
they
are,
it
would
at
least
reduce
the
price
for
the
city
in
this
and
maybe
get
us
into
a
longer-term
view
of
how
are
we
maximizing
efficiency
and
minimizing
the
physical
footprint?
That's
there.
L
So
if,
if
we
have
your
commitment
that,
while
this
approval
is
up
to
this
point-
and
you
can
go
and
kind
of
figure
out
in
this
short
term,
how
to
go,
you
know
maybe
make
tweaks
to
instead
of
giving
400
it's
getting
200
that
habit.
You
know
a
third
of
the
price
or
something
if
you
feel
comfortable
with
that,
I
feel
comfortable,
saying
I'm,
supportive
of
it,
but
it
came
up
late
in
the
day.
There
wasn't
enough
time
for
anyone
to
get
real
answers
to
this.
G
So
sure
Thank,
You
councilmember
Bakari,
there's
a
I
guess
two
things
are
going
on
right
now,
one
visit
as
stamped
and
he
died
director
Liz
Babson,
who
was
amazing,
was
going
through
the
evaluation
of
the
technology.
We
realized
that
if
we
went
out
with
an
RFP
six
months
ago,
we
wouldn't
have
done
all
of
our
due
diligence
and
we
would
have
gone
out
with
the
RFP
that
would
have
potentially
given
us
something
less
than
what
we
desire.
G
So
what
we're
doing
with
this
paper
tonight
is
an
ability
to
extend
for
another
year
so
that
at
a
bare
minimum
we
can
fix
the
broken
meters
that
we
have
that
were
not
collecting
revenue
on
and
that's
going
to
increase
our
revenue.
But
we
move
forward
within
the
next
year
for
a
new
RFP
to
go
out.
It
would
include
everything
that
you're
seeing
and
more
because
we're
gathering
data
as
it
relates
to
smart
technologies
around
this
space,
yeah.
L
And
so
it's
full
agreement
on
the
longer
term
strategy.
I
guess
all
I'd
say
is
if,
if
as
you're
looking
to
to
these
short-term
one-year
propositions
and
you're
literally
buying
new
units,
if
that
ends
up
being,
what
you
have
to
do,
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
look
at
the
double
capabilities
versus
the
single
well
and
then
longer
it's
perfect
and
then
just
longer
term.
I
think
and
I
know.
You're,
you
and
staff
are
aligned
to
this
form
set
out
live
a
lot
for
the
public.
L
There
are
amazing
technological
advancements
in
this
space
right
now
license
plate
reader
technology
with
all
this
stuff,
I
feel
like
we're
operating
in
a
circle,
1990s
mode
right
now
at
best
and
we're
going
to
get
away
from
coins
and
have
coins
end
cards.
I
would
really
encourage
us
to
get
out
there
and
get
on
the
cutting
edge
of
this
okay.
Thank
you.
L
A
A
The
next
person
we
have
is
a
speaker
on
item
number
41,
which
is
hence
41,
is
the
property
transaction
for
himself
incre
bill
drainage
improvements,
parcel
number
250
and
the
staff
is
asking
for
condemnation
for
a
piece
of
property
located
at
28,
13
hensdale,
and
we
have
a
speaker
who
is
the
resident
mr.
lanka,
what
we
did
see
you
upstairs
in
the
right
space.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
apologize
if
I
did
not
get
your
name
correct
three
minutes.
Please.
AC
Madam
mayor
City,
Council
Charlotte
Mecklenburg
stormwater
created
a
project
to
which,
if
they
go
through
with
it,
my
house
will
fall
down
a
steep
slope
into
the
creek.
That's
not
my
opinion.
That's
opinion
of
an
independent
in
near
you
have
materials
in
front
of
you,
and
there
are
two
letters
from
an
independent
engineer,
called
diamond
engineering.
AC
The
thing
about
the
terrain
that
you
need
to
know
is
my
house
sits
on
a
very
steep
slope
about
20
foot
up
at
times
it
is
vertical
and
no
man
has
ever
been
able
to
walk
straight
up
a
straight
down.
The
basic
tenant
of
engineering
and
construction
and
the
basic
tenant
of
the
law
is
that
you
don't
disturb
slopes
like
this.
For
some
bizarre
reason,
charlotte-mecklenburg
stormwater
has
come
up
with
several
projects
that
disturb
the
slope.
AC
First
idea
was,
they
would
take
the
sewage
and
they
would
dig
it
from
the
left
side
of
the
creek
to
the
right
side
of
the
creek
cut
it
right
under
my
house,
with
a
couple
of
men
holds
and
then
zigzag
it
back,
so
the
sewage
would
go
left
right
left
like
a
hunted
rabbit,
and
for
that
they
wanted
to
disturb
that
slope.
Then
they
give
up
this
idea.
I
actually
had
to
give
them
an
opinion
of
an
engineer
or
saying
you
know
the
sewage
could
just
go
straight
and
not
cut
into
the
bank
very
expensive.
AC
There
would
a
12-foot
manhole
after
that,
the
stormwater
decided
that
they
would
move
for
a
wind
wall
that
cut
into
the
bank
and
I
got
the
manipulative
engineer
saying
that
the
wind
wall
shouldn't
cut
into
the
bank,
and
it
would
seem
that
now
they
have
absolutely
no
business
of
cutting
the
banks.
So
now
they
grid
to
gratuitously
cut
the
bank,
and
the
problem
is
because
it's
so
steep
there
is
no.
AC
You
know
how
you
have
to
have
two
to
one
for
one
for
two
horizontal:
you
only
can
have
one
vertical
and
that's
how
the
land
will
hold.
So
there
is
no.
My
house
is
too
close
to
the
creek,
so
the
slope
go
is
kind
of
like
this
one
point,
six
to
one
and
I,
don't
know
why
they
why
they
wanted
to
cut
it,
but
they
do
so.
I
was
kind
of
shocked
that
charlotte-mecklenburg
saw
a
storm.
AC
Water
would
do
a
project
that
seems
so
wrong
that
the
engineer
said
so
that
is
against
the
law,
but
that's
just
how
it
is.
Which
brings
me
back
to
the
second
problem,
doing
further
research.
It
turns
out
that
how
could
they
do
it
through
permitting
I
asked
they
have
to
have
erosion
permitting
they
have
to
have
permitting
from
a
u.s.
corpse
of
Engineers,
turns
out
that
on
lots
of
projects
and
that
I'm
shocked
myself,
Charlotte
Mecklenburg
stormwater
builds
structures
without
ever
getting
permits.
When
you
go
home
today,
some
of
you
take
highway
16.
AC
A
L
And
thank
you
first
before
I
kind
of
make
a
comment.
I
was
wondering.
Is
it
possible
like
for
me
to
ask
you
to
come
down
and
give
a
little
bit
of
the
city's
perspective
here?
I've
had
a
few
conversations
with
staff
and
I
believe
we
would
all
benefit
from
hearing
directly
from
Mike
who,
as
we
all
know,
we
have
a
lot
of
confidence
in
and
they
have
been
working
on
this
for
a
very
long
time.
AD
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council
and
customer
care
I
think
got
me
down
I'll
just
explain
very
briefly
and
try
to
speak
to
a
couple
of
the
concerns
we
heard.
What
I
would
start
from
just
briefly
is.
There
is
a
public
purpose
to
the
project
where
we
have
a
sincere
shared
interest
with
dr.
L
word,
as
we
have
no
intent
to
just
do
any
more
construction
than
is
necessary
disturb
anymore.
The
stream
system
that
is
necessary.
AD
The
purpose
of
the
project
is
to
increase
the
stormwater
capacity
in
the
neighborhood,
and
so
in
order
to
do
that,
we
will
have
to
replace
some
pipes
that
travel
underneath
some
streets.
Dr.
L
words
home,
does
sit
in
close
proximity
at
the
top
of
a
stream
bank
at
the
outfall
of
one
of
those
pipes.
In
order
to
make
that
pipe,
bigger
will
need
a
wing
wall
that,
by
just
its
very
nature
and
completing
that
construction
will
require
us
to
connect
it
to
the
natural
stream
bank.
That's
there.
AD
Our
goal
is
to
minimize
how
much
of
that
would
happen.
Dr.
Elbert
has
worked
collaboratively
with
city
staff
over
about
a
year.
We
started
working
on
this
about
a
year
ago
and
we
have
made
a
series
of
design
revisions
to
try
to
further
minimize
that
disturbance
and
there's
some
balance
that
we
get
into
with
that.
So
we've
deferred
this
now
a
couple
times,
one
of
which
was
so
that
I
could
sit
personally
with
dr.
L
word
and
visitor
at
our
home
review.
L
So
I
mean,
from
my
perspective,
I
I
haven't
been
deep
in
this
for
as
long
as
they
have
but
I've
tried
to
bring
myself
up
to
speed
as
they've
been
having
these
conversations.
I'm
of
the
mindset
that
I
have
a
lot
of
confidence
and
no
reason
to
doubt
the
the
expertise
capability
or
the
authentic
approach
of
Mike
of
the
entire
team.
L
In
doing
this,
and
it's
been
a
little
bit
of
a
moving
target
and
they
have
delayed
and
deferred
for
a
while,
I
know
and
trust
that,
even
with
an
approval
tonight
that
Mike
and
team
will
continue
to
work
with
the
doctor
and
and
minimizing
all
the
impacts.
But
I
don't
believe
that,
based
on
what
I've
learned
we
can
afford
to
delay
any
longer.
Based
on
how
this
has
gone
on.
So
I
would
encourage
you
all
to
ask
any
questions
you
would
have.
AE
AD
So
dr.
l-word
owns
property
adjacent
to
the
creek
and
property
on
the
other
side
of
that
Creek
and
her
home
sits
on
the
top
of
a
bank.
So
what
we
would
be
doing
is
the
minimum
amount
of
disturbance
we
need
to
to
the
side
of
that
Bank,
but
it
would
not
get
up.
She
has
a
couple
retaining
walls
separating
her
home
from
where
we
would
be
doing
our
work.
So
then,
the
way
the
project
is
designed
there
would
be
no
physical
disturbance
to
her
home
or
those
walls
that
separate
her
okay.
AE
AC
Your
home,
yes,
the
report
says
in
plain
English:
if
they
cut
the
slope
under
my
house,
the
house
will
eventually
fall
into
the
creek.
He
says
it
in
an
engineering
words,
but
that's
the
bottom
line,
and
indeed
when
I
first
spoke
to
mr.
keen
and
mr.
Lesnar,
who
are
with
the
charlotte-mecklenburg
storm
water
and
I,
said:
look,
this
will
happen
and
then
we
will
have
a
lawsuit.
And
let's
don't
do
that
because
there
is
an
alternative,
easy
way.
What
they
said
to
me
is
we
don't
hear
you'll,
never
prove
it
in
court.
AC
So,
even
if
your
house
falls
into
the
curricula
you're
just
never
going
to
prove
it,
those
were
their
words.
So
my
the
engineer
said
that
if
the
city
turns
the
wing
wall
to
go
along
the
creek,
then
the
city
wouldn't
have
to
grade
just
so
high
and
that
made
sense
and
amazingly
the
city
did
turn
I'm.
Sorry,
the
charlotte-mecklenburg
stormwater
did
turn
the
wind
well,
but
they
still
grade,
and
in
fact,
when
after
I
complained
to
the
city
engineer,
their
proposed
Rayden
got
seven
times
bigger.
AE
AE
I'm
not
clear
on
I
think
I
need
some
sort
of
independent
engineering
study
done.
That
shows
that
it's
not
going
to
have
an
impact
and
if
it
does
and
we
need
to
work
with
the
property
owner
I
would
not
feel
comfortable
going
with
this.
If
we
have
to
put
ourselves
in
the
shoes
of
the
homeowner,
if
it
was
us,
how
would
we
feel
if
there
was
going
to
be
a
damage
to
the
property?
AE
I
AD
AD
What
I'll
also
tell
you
is
at
some
point:
somebody's
got
a
seal,
a
set
of
engineering
drawings
in
the
the
engineer
record
of
whose
license
in
North
Carolina,
and
so
what
we
did
is
try
to
understand
what
that
technical
report
is
suggesting
put
it
back
on
our
consultant
engineer,
who's,
putting
their
seal
on
this
studying
what
they
need
to
from
a
geotechnical
perspective.
To
understand
what
can
happen
when
you
re
engineer
that
slope
what
we
can
expect
to
happen,
and
so,
ultimately,
we
find
confidence
on
that.
I
AD
Have
hired
so
we
use
a
private
designer,
a
private,
consulting
firm
engineering,
consulting
firm.
So
what
we
do
is
we
act
as
sort
of
a
client
or
owner
of
that
project
and
we
want
it
built
to
meet
our
requirements.
We
bring
in
an
outside
design,
engineer
who
is
a
licensed
professional
engineer.
They
design
it
there's
several
ways
this
could
be
designed
as
dr.
Aylward
has
referenced
there.
We
have
changed
the
design
a
couple
times.
We
have
tried
to
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
trade-off
here.
AD
I
don't
know,
certainly
if
you
want
to
go
this
far
in,
but
there's
a
trade-off
in.
While
you
minimize
the
construction
disturbance,
you
take
on
a
little
bit
of
incremental
risk
in
the
long
term
stream
disturbance,
because
there
is
a
function
served
by
this
end
wall,
that's
meant
to
reduce
channel
erosion,
and
so
we
found
ourselves
in
a
situation
where
we
we've.
We
could
make
some
changes,
but
only
to
a
point
to
satisfy
the
near-term
and
long-term
goals.
But
ultimately
we
rest
on
that
sealed
engineering,
engineer
of
record.
I
Last
question
it
might
be
for
the
attorney.
Let's
say
we
we
do
the
work,
we
vote
to
push
this
board
and
we
do
the
work.
What
protections
was
the
property
owner
have?
Should
we
come?
They
come
back
in
a
couple
of
years
after
that,
I
don't
know
the
next
hurricane
or
something
like
that
and
the
house
does
in
fact
collapse.
I
B
Thrown
a
couple
of
things
into
that
equation
there,
because
if
a
hurricane,
sometimes
houses
collapse
without
anything
else
going
on
there,
it's
an
issue
that
that
and
and
mike
has
referenced
the
sealed,
the
sealed
plans-
because
these
are
these-
are
important
documents,
because
that's
what
the
engineer
is
staking
themselves
on
the
ability
to
do
this
in
a
safe
way,
without
potentially
disturbing
the
entire
geography
of
the
location.
If
they
can't
do
it
in
a
safe
way,
they
shouldn't
be.
B
You
know,
sealing
these
plans
because,
ultimately,
that's
that's
what
we
have
to
go
on,
that
they
can
actually
do
this
prop
this
construction
safely.
So
so
there
are
there's
potential
risk
associated
with
it,
which
I
assume
we've
we've
gone
through,
and
that's
why
the
engineer
I
assume
is
saying
that
they
can
do
this
safely
and
there's
clearly,
you
know
a
disagreement
between
her
engineer
and
and
our
engineer
going
forward
really
the.
AC
I
AD
So
that
speaks
to
the
larger
project
purpose.
This
is
a
neighborhood
wide
project.
There
are
properties
there,
uphill
upstream
of
this
location.
What
the
project
seeks
to
do
is
increase
capacity,
the
whole
system
so
to
reduce
flooding
in
the
neighborhood.
So
as
you
collect
that
water
in
what
is
now
an
increased
capacity
system,
it
will
need
to
travel
through
this
pipe
on
its
journey
to
get
to
the
creek,
and
so,
if
you
did
not
increase
the
capacity
and
do
this
work,
you'd
be
exposing
that
location
to
flooding.
AD
C
A
D
Have
a
question
bout,
the
sequence
of
events,
I
wanna,
make
sure
I'm
crystal
clear.
You
had
a
plan,
you
had
an
independent
engineer,
review
the
plan
at
what
point.
Did
the
engineer
of
record
seal
or
proceed
to
want
to
seal
the
plan,
because,
if
I'm
confused
as
to
why
the
engineer
would
want
to
seal
it
and
then
find
that
there
were
gaps?
Yes,.
AD
So
so
the
answer
to
question
is
that
we
are
at
99%
on
design
completion.
This
is
the
last
real
estate
parcel
for
the
project,
and
so
the
final
sealed
drawings
will
not
occur
until
those
plans
get
to
100%,
which
would
include
resolution
of
this
issue.
I,
don't
have
memorized
the
dates
at
which
time
everything
happened,
but,
generally
to
your
question,
we
found
that
there
were
opportunities
to
we
believe
satisfy
some
of
dr.
L
words
underlying
concerns
about
how
much
disturbance
we
were
taking
on.
AD
So
one
be
clear:
there
was
not
a
belief
that
the
prior
design
was
not
acceptable.
We
believed
there
was
an
operant.
We
said
we
hear
what
you're
saying.
Maybe
this
will
work
better
if
we
find
a
way
to
reduce
the
limits
of
disturbance,
so
we
slightly
modified
that
end
wall
that
we've
been
talking
about
to
try
to
relieve
some
of
that
concern,
but.
J
A
C
AD
C
Council,
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
second-guess
this
discussion
taking
place
among
engineers.
My
own
feeling
is
that
we
have
to
place
our
confidence
in
our
engineering
staff
and
then
the
engineer
of
record.
Otherwise
we
would
have
to
delve
right
into
all
the
whys
and
wherefores
or
hire
other
experts
and
who
knows
so
I'm
kind
of
a
mr.
Bukhari
on
this
I
feel
confident
that
the
work
that
we've
done
represents
a
responsible
outcome
and
will
be
in
fact
safe
for
the
house.
J
F
F
'I
designed
outfall
causing
erosion,
and
it
says
on
the
left,
culvert
wing
wall
downstream
part
of
Hinsdale
street
there's
a
stormwater
outfalls
ein,
falsely
and
in
violation
of
the
Clean
Water
Act
stormwater
hoses
at
right
bank
and
there's
a
picture
of
it
at
a
90-degree
angle,
which
shoots
water
with
such
force
that
it
cuts
the
bank
and
the
US
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
warned
stormwater
that
existing
outfall
design
warned
them
about
it,
and
it
looks
as
if
this
then
it
refers
to
after
the
work.
That's
been
done.
AD
Think
what's
in
question
is
whether
or
not
so
if
you
picture
a
big
pipe,
that's
traveling
to
the
street
there's
a
very
small
pipe
that
comes
in
yeah
doesn't
shoot
as
much
water
out,
and
so
the
question
was:
is
there
ever
going
to
be
enough
water
coming
out
of
that
small
pipe
that
it
would
project
across
the
bank
and
scour
out
soil
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
bank
in
conceptually
speaking?
That's
not
an
irrational
thing
to
question
or
wonder
about.
AD
We
looked
at
the
hydraulics
on
that
and
based
on
the
maximum
amount
of
flow
that
we
think
can
be
processed
through
that
pipe
and
the
velocities
discharged
it's
not
possible
to
scour
the
soil
on
the
other
side.
So
that's
an
example
of
where
it
the
pipe
could
be
moved,
but
it
could
not
be
moved
or
altered
without,
in
my
view,
unjustified
expense,
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
sorting
out
that
we've
tried
to
do
is
take
on
those
things
that
we
feel
like
represents
some
sort
of
consequential
change
or
something
that
might
be
received.
AD
A
couple
things
I
mean,
generally
speaking
on,
if
there's
some
way
that
we
can
get
more
benefit
out
of
a
project
with
a
new
idea,
we
would
we
would
absolutely
do
that.
Sometimes
projects,
new
ideas
can
even
save
money
and,
of
course,
that's
you
know
beneficial.
There
are
also
circumstances
in
which
we
can
do
some
things
that
are
neither
here
nor
there
that
if
that
frankly,
saves
us
a
lot
of
staff
time
in
conversations
like
this
and
what
maybe
downstream
litigation
we
would
take
that
on.
AD
Like
a
couple
examples,
we've
modified
a
driveway
design,
we've
added
restrictions
to
what
the
contractor
can
do
at
that
location,
which
will
probably
reflect
a
little
bit
in
the
bids
that
we
ultimately
get,
but
we
thought
it
added
a
degree
of
confidence,
hopefully
to
the
property
owner,
and
so
we
therefore
thought
that
was
worthwhile
as
examples.
Okay,.
AC
N
F
AC
AC
So
what
happened
here
is
first
clean
water,
a
Charlotte,
strong
water
people
told
me
that
they
had
all
the
permits
received,
that
nothing
could
be
changed
and
then
I
come
to
find
out
from
calling
the
agencies
that
they
haven't
even
seen
the
design
and
then
I
come
to
find
out
when
the
illegal
outfall
that
I
was
talking
about.
I
spoke
to
a
US,
Army
corpus
of
engineer.
As
agent
Crystal
was
her
name,
and
she
said
this
pipe
shouldn't
be
perpendicular
to
the
other
Bank.
AC
You
should
move
it
and
you
have
emails
from
US,
Army
Corp
of
Engineers
to
charlotte-mecklenburg
storm
water.
Saying
please
move
the
pipe
and
then
John
Keane,
who
is
the
manager
of
the
project,
tells
her?
Yes,
absolutely
I
will
give
it
to
our
consultants,
which
are
the
engineers
that
actually
put
their
still
in
it,
and
then
you
see
approximately
an
hour
later,
an
email
from
mr.
AC
F
Thank
you
and
now
I
feel
like
I'm
in
court,
so
which
I
you
know
we're
not
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
to
do
that.
So
I
personally
am
not
real
comfortable
with
this,
because
I
don't
understand
it
and
it's
kind
of
hard
to
look
at
it.
This
way
so
I'm,
just
not
real
comfortable
with
saying,
go
ahead,
I'm
not
saying,
there's
anything
wrong
with
it.
But
at
this
point
there.
F
I
apologized
like
to
do
that,
but
Mike.
Maybe
we
can
talk
offline,
I
personally,
right
now,
don't
feel
like
I
can
get
behind
this
project
and
having
personal
experience
with
stormwater.
We
talk
about
this
all
the
time
we
have
such
a
backlog,
and
so
I
understand
that
you
guys
have
a
budget,
and
you
have
to
work
with.
What
you
have
and
throw
mortar
is
an
issue
that
we
have
to
deal
with
in
this
city,
because
it's
gonna,
it's
it's
gonna
come
back
at
us.
F
H
So
is
there
a
sense
of
urgency
in
a
proven
of
approving
this
I
know
that
you've
been
working
on
it
for
a
while
and
councilmember
Oak?
Are
you
you've
seen
this
before,
but
it
seems
that
there
are
a
few
of
us
that
are
not
comfortable.
Could
we
differ?
Could
we
defer
this
for
an
independent
exam
or
not
exam
that
you
review,
because
at
the
end
of
the
days
sure.
AD
So
on
the
answer,
the
question:
is
you
absolutely
have
the
right
to
delay
this
vote,
the
furthest
vote.
We
are
at
a
place
in
the
development
of
the
project
where,
if
we
delay
it
just
means
that
the
project
is
delayed.
Your
question
was
about
urgency.
We've
been
working
on
this.
This
parcel
acquisition
for
about
a
year
we
deferred
from
several
agendas
already.
My
goal
had
been
to
try
to
avoid
having
any
opposition.
AD
J
AE
I
understand
the
urgency
where
you
have
other
projects,
but
it's
a
lot
of
material
to
be
able
to
read
through
in
10-15
minutes
and
it's
the
first
time
I
have
seen
this.
You
might
have
had
discussions
going
on,
but
it's
the
first
time
that
counsel
have
seen
this,
that
there
was
an
attempt
to
resolve
this.
So.
AA
AE
I'm
not
comfortable
making
a
decision
where
I
have
something
in
front
of
me.
Five
minutes
before
the
board,
where
it's
a
pretty
complex
issue
we
are
talking
about
someone's
home,
so
I
would
like
at
least
a
little
bit
of
time.
Maybe
a
week
or
two
mr.
Davis
I
know
that
we
have
a
consultant
who
is
doing
the
actual
work,
as
the
consultant
done.
Their
independent
study
for
this
work,
or
was
the
study
done
by
the
city
so.
AD
AD
We
would
bid
this
or
what
you'd
see
is
about
six
months
from
now.
Next
step
would
be
to
go
into
a
permitting
phase.
So
what
would
get
into
those
any
kind
of
permitting
issues
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers,
and
then
we
would
bring
back
a
bid.
We
would
bid
that
work
out
and
then
bring
back
to
council
the
construction
order.
Okay,.
AD
AD
L
L
The
bottom
line
is
there's
a
bunch
of
things
here
that
maybe
seem
credible
or
don't
just
in
my
little
bit
of
updating,
I've
heard
multiple
things
that
seem
to
be
contradictory
to
the
facts
that
have
been
laid
out
to
me
by
our
expert
staff,
and
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
for
those
who
want
to
independent
study.
Our
third
party
is
independent
and
their
entire
reputation
through
that
seal
of
being
done
to
this
point
and
then,
ultimately,
when
it's
done
is
the
independent
valuation.
L
You
need
and
that's
the
confidence
I
have
there
and
if
it
ultimately
goes
to
litigation,
we
have
a
city
attorney
and
entire
staff
that
ultimately
looks
at
this
and
says
yeah.
We
can
defend
that
because
we
believe
in
the
process
to
date
and
then
a
city
manager,
that's
the
top
of
all
this.
So
to
me,
listen
I,
get
it
like.
You
can
look
at
this
and
purposely
I'm
not
trying
to
get
too
deep
into
the
weeds,
because
I
don't
want
to
be
the
engineer.
L
The
judge,
the
attorney
or
the
city
manager,
I,
know
and
trust
until
I've
been
given
any
other
reason
that
our
staff
goes
at
this
the
right
way
they've
been
going
at
it
for
a
year.
The
goalpost
has
been
moving
and
and
to
be
honest,
there's
some
things
that
give
me
indications
that
that
there
might
be
problems
with
some
of
the
the
pieces
of
information.
L
We're
getting
extra
so
I
just
encourage
everyone
to
have
confidence
in
our
staff,
our
manager,
our
attorney,
and
if
they
have
brought
this
forward
to
this
point
with
all
of
those
checks
in
place,
then
they
know
what
what
the
right
thing
is
and
if
they're
wrong
someone's
going
to
be
held
accountable
and
get
fired.
Eventually,
I.
A
Hear
lots
of
discussion
around
this?
This
is
a
property
transaction
or
drainage
improvements
that
have
a
bigger
than
this
one
person
and
I.
It's
always
tough.
Stormwater
is
one
of
our
things
that
we
struggle
with
development.
I,
look
at
your
house.
It's
on
two
sides
of
a
creek
I
mean
it's.
It's
beautiful,
but
I
think
the
real
question
that
we
have
here
is
that
this
is
to
do
the
project
acquisition.
It's
not
a
in
product.
A
There
will
be
the
opportunity
to
have
further
discussions
with,
but
the
City
Council
vote
is
to
either
approve
the
property
acquisition
or
not
it's
just
that
simple.
It
doesn't
mean
that
the
stormwater
won't
continue
to
work
through
it.
It
does
I
think
the
seal
hasn't
been
made
designs
and
all
of
that
will
come
up,
and
this
is
not
going
to
go
to
court
tomorrow
and
be
done.
There
is
a
process
here,
that's
in
place
for
this
continuation
of
a
discussion
between
the
citizen
here
doctor.
A
Is
it
I
still
as
Walt
doctors
good
know
so,
but
we,
you
will
have
an
opportunity
to
continue
this
discussion
with
the
city
staff
as
well
as
to
have
your
engineer,
talk
to
the
engineer
that
we're
using,
but
it's
been
a
year
and
the
project
around
stormwater
is
not
just
for
one
household:
it's
actually
to
protect
our
basin,
and
there
are
many
other
households
in
that
area
as
well.
So
I
there's
been
difficulty,
probably
communicating
and
but
I
do
believe.
Mr.
A
Bukhari
has
said
that
he's
done
more
work
on
this
and
in
some
respects,
if
you've
want
more
work
done
on
it,
you
can
do
that.
It
doesn't
stop
tomorrow,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
not
going
to
do
anything
but
delay
and
acquisition
and
something
that
may
have
more
harm
upstream
or
in
the
basin
than
not
which.
N
A
J
A
A
A
E
A
Second,
is
okay
with
that,
so
we
have
a
motion
for
a
and
B
all
in
favor.
Please
say
aye!
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
the
city
manager's
report
for
upcoming
items
that
are
gonna
be
on
the
agenda.
So
we
are,
we
missed
the
2040,
comprehensive
2-year
outlook,
boards
and
commissions
overview.
I'd
also
ask
the
manager
to
add
Tom
Hendrickson
the
proposed
developer
for
Brook
Hill,
as
well
as
an
update
on
the
CI
double-a
and
the
RNC
by
the
police
department.
A
G
You
mayor
members
of
council,
so
what
you
have
in
front
of
you
is
the
30
day
update.
We
will
make
some
changes
to
the
February
3rd
strategy
session,
but
I
will
not
change.
Is
the
council
annual
strategy
meeting
summary
that
was
asked
that
we
could
update
you
on
some
of
the
work
that
was
done
during
the
annual
strategy
meeting
and
also
the
dog
tethering
provisions
and
the
circus
animal
regulations
with
mentioned
earlier
this
month?
That
would
be
on
the
February
strategy
session
meeting
I.
Do
what
Renee
asked
you
to
come
down
just
for
one?
G
Second,
it's
this
concept
of
making
sure
that
council
stays
informed
about.
What's
going
on
through
all
of
your
committee
work
over
the
course
of
the
last
few
weeks.
There
are
a
number
of
items
that
we
believe
are
important
to
get
before
you
pretty
quickly.
So
at
the
first
budget
workshop
in
February,
we
have
emergency
management,
our
financial
partners,
an
overview
of
Charlotte
art
support,
some
of
the
existing
capital
projects,
an
overview
of
street
lighting
program.
G
Those
we
believe
are
very
timely
in
terms
of
the
budget
workshops
and
then
to
to
round
out
the
end
of
the
month.
We
have
a
Valentine
development
update,
as
well
as
the
circle
of
Charlotte
update,
which
has
been
asked
for
before,
and
I
just
wanted
our
CIO
to
take
just
a
couple
of
minutes
to
talk
with
you
a
little
bit
about
the
digital
Alliance
for
smart
cities.
G
P
You
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
this
update,
I'll
move
very
quickly,
because
I
know
that
evening
is
getting
late,
but
I
did
want
to
step
back
in
order
to
step
forward,
because
we
have
a
number
of
people
that
are
unfamiliar
with
the
Alliance.
So
the
City
of
Charlotte
and
Microsoft
has
signed
a
three-year
digital
alliance,
and
what
that
does
is
enable
us
to
really
pile
it.
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A
lot
of
the
new
technology
and
be
able
to
move
innovation
forward
with
the
city,
but
what's
more
exciting,
is
that
this
is
the
second
only
the
second
type
of
partnership
that
Microsoft
has
engaged
in.
Well,
that's
real,
exciting
for
the
City
of
Charlotte,
the
first,
with
with
Houston
and
now
with
Charlotte,
very
exciting.
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So
as
I
talk
through
the
different
initiatives
they're
about
five
and
the
five
pilot
initiatives
are
all
built
around
a
city
strategy
for
and
it's
a
city,
strategic
priorities
and
so
they're
listed
above.
So
let
me
walk
through
each
one
of
the
initiatives
so
that
way,
you'll
have
an
understanding
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish.