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You're watching the City of Charlotte Budget & Effectiveness Committee Meeting for January 2, 2020. Thanks for joining us and Happy New Year!
A
C
A
I
want
to
explain
quickly
before
we
start.
This
is
the
budget
and
effectiveness
committee,
which
includes
the
functions
of
our
Budget
Committee
in
the
past,
overseeing
our
budget
process,
but
also
has
taken
on
the
responsibilities
that
were
formerly
held
by
the
governance
and
accountability
committee
and
on
this
occasion,
is
functioning
as
the
council
retreat
committee.
So
we
have
a
variety
of
responsibilities,
but
we're
here
today
to
talk
about
the
retreat
and
I
would
like
to
hand
over
to
Angela
Lee
for
some
opening
comments.
Sure.
F
G
G
Please
don't
talk
at
us
for
two
and
a
half
days,
so
what
we've
attempted
to
do
is
make
sure
that
there
is
significant
time
for
council
to
collaborate
with
a
facilitator,
based
on
some
of
the
questions
that
you
have
provided
to
the
team
prior
to
the
retreat.
There's
been
a
survey
that
was
handed
out
and,
and
it's
interesting
well,
we
should
have
come
to
understand
what
would
come
back
to
us
and
it's
pretty
consistent.
G
The
20/40
comp
plan,
transportation,
transit
plan,
affordable
housing
budget
and
funding,
Public
Safety,
upward
mobility,
jobs,
business
growth,
council
interaction
operations,
so
we're
using
some
of
the
questions
that
you've
had
to
develop.
Pre
reads
before
the
retreat.
My
promise
to
you
is
not
to
give
you
a
six
inch
binder
that
you're
so
inundated
with
documents
that
you
don't
have
time
to
read
them,
but
to
do
something,
that's
pretty
quick,
we
call
them
hot
sheets
we're
in
a
very
you
know.
G
90
second
reads:
you
can
get
a
feeling
of
what's
going
on
in
terms
of
some
of
these
areas.
The
other
thing
I
think
is
important
is
to
talk
about
just
process
going
forward
at
the
retreat
I
leave
from
a
staff
level.
We
think
of
this
as
a
playbook,
and
what
are
some
of
the
policies
programs
initiatives
that
you
want
us
to
implement
over
the
course
of
the
next
year
over
the
next
few
years,
one
of
the
a
very
good
retreat
we
had
was
a
couple
of
years
ago
when
we
talked
about
affordable
housing.
G
It
was
very
clear
what
the
short-term
goals
were:
the
medium-term
goals
and
long
term
goals,
as
well
as
what's
hard
to
achieve
and
what's
difficult
to
achieve,
and
we
will
give
you
a
scoring
sheet
on
what
has
occurred
over
the
course
of
the
last
years.
Their
desire
is
the
facilitator
that
we
have
this
year,
who
you
are
familiar
with,
that
has
been
emphasized.
G
Ated
for
the
last
couple
of
years
can
help
us
along
those
that
way,
if,
if
you'll
just
give
me
two
more
minutes
with
Jared,
if
you
go
back
to
the
council
calendar,
this
is
not
a
one-shot
deal
and
then
we're
done
as
a
matter
of
fact.
On
February
5th
you'll
have
your
first
budget
workshop
and
then
each
first
Wednesday
until
the
budget
is
delivered,
there
will
be
workshops
and
those
workshops
can
go
a
couple
hours.
They
can
go
half
a
day.
G
It's
just
the
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
counsel
is
abreast
of
what's
occurring,
but
also
holding
the
team
accountable
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
information
to
you
on
a
quick
math
if
we're
a
little
bit
north
of
20
hours
on
this
retreat
and
seventy-five
percent
of
the
time,
it's
just
dedicated
to
council
talking
about
yourselves
with
many
of
what
the
facilitator,
with
many
of
the
issues
that
have
popped
up
prior
to
the
retreat.
So
mr.
chair,
that's
at
30,000
feet.
G
A
Thank
You
mr.
manager
and
I
wanted
to
point
out
we're
meeting
here,
partly
because
we
did
have
in
the
past
a
council
retreat
committee
of
council
members
this
year.
The
preparations
for
the
retreat
were
made
largely
by
the
staff
and
I
thought.
It
would
be
good
if
a
few
members
of
council
got
a
look
at
the
agenda
and
had
an
opportunity
to
comment
and
weigh
in
on
whether
or
not
the
the
mix
of
things
that's
included
here.
A
The
time
that's
being
devoted
to
them
now
you
should
have
received
this
morning
or
you
should
have
certainly
have
this
thing.
So
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
if
we
just
kind
of
go
through
this
agenda
and
I'm
interested
to
hear
any
comments
you
may
have
about
what
in
detail
we
should
be
doing
during
these
designated
periods.
I
think
the
framework
itself
works
well
so
appreciate
that,
and
the
only
thing
that
might
be
left
for
us
to
do
is
look
into
it
and
see
if
we
can
kind
of
develop
in
any
more
detail.
A
That's
pretty
broad
base,
so
maybe
mr.
manager,
if
you
can
tell
us
what
you
gleaned
from
the
survey
that
was
conducted
of
council
members,
what
kind
of
things
how
you
think
that's
going
to
work
was
the
intention
that
the
facilitator
will
report
on
what
what
came
back
from
us
or
what's
the
structure
of
that
problem.
G
Yes,
thank
you,
mr.
chair.
So
that's
what
will
occur.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
and
I
should
have
started
off
with
this
add
to
it
that,
because
Public
Safety
came
up
so
permanently
in
the
surveys,
we're
dedicating
Monday
strategy
session
to
public
safety,
even
when
I
go
back
and
think
about
the
swearing-in
ceremony.
G
We
acknowledge
that,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
even
before
going
into
the
retreat
that
there
is
significant
time
set
aside
this
Monday
to
discuss
that
the
geopoint
mr.
chair,
the
facilitator
will
take
much
of
what
was
gleaned
from
your
surveys
and
try
to
find
some
level
of
connectivity
between
them.
And
how
much
would
you
like
to
discuss
some
of
these
items
at
the
retreat?
G
How
much
would
you
like
to
discuss
them
in
a
later
date,
whether
it's
a
strategy
session,
whether
it's
referred
to
committee
or
whether
or
not
it
is
something
that
you
just
need
more
information
on
in
the
pre
reads?
We
will
also
to
the
extent
possible
answer
as
many
of
the
questions
that
came
out
of
that
survey
too.
G
A
I
think
the
goal
of
this
session
and
the
other
longer
discussion
sessions
is
for
us,
as
council
members,
to
communicate
as
clearly
and
succinctly
as
possible
what
we
want
to
do
this
year.
What
our
priorities
are
where
we
want
the
emphasis
to
be,
and
also
since
we
are
a
Budget
Committee
as
well,
how
we
want
to
commit
prioritize
and
commit
our
resources.
That's
the
idea.
A
The
comment
you
just
made
about
Public
Safety
came
about
partly
because,
if
you
look
at
this
retreat
agenda,
it
doesn't
appear
as
a
topic,
and
we
really
don't
want
the
community
to
take
the
impression
that
we
are
not
very
concerned
about
this
and
paying
a
lot
of
attention
to
it.
So
the
answer
was
that
we
would,
before
we
even
go
into
this
retreat,
we
would
kind
of
make
public
the
fact
that
we
intend
to
meet
on
Monday
and
devote
quite
a
lot
of
time
to
this
question
on
that
one.
A
By
the
way,
personally,
I
have
a
question
about.
It
has
been
described
as
a
public
health
crisis
and
that's
a
very
evocative
description.
I
know
that
some
people,
I've
talked
to
are
not
sure
what
it
means,
because
they're
used
to
thinking
of
the
CDC
and
the
National
Institutes
for
health
and
so
on.
So
it's
a
sort
of
social
health
crisis.
But
how
does
that
inform
the
options
that
we're
thinking
about
as
a
way
of
addressing
it
sure
so.
G
Thank
You
mr.
chair
many
times,
we
think
about
public
safety
in
terms
of
police
officers,
but
what
we
are
learning
and
dr.
Harris,
Gibby
Harris
from
the
county
has
done
some
significant
work
and,
in
recently,
an
analysis
that
she
provided
to
the
County
Board
of
Commissioners
or
subcommittee
back
in
September
to
start
to
think
more
of
the
root
causes.
So,
for
instance,
we
know
that,
based
on
a
child's
third
grade
reading
level,
we
can
start
building
prison
themselves.
So
it's
more
of
a
of
a
community-wide
effort.
What
are
the
things?
C
It
does
also
involve
the
partnerships
in
intervention,
not
just
the
investment,
but
the
partnerships
and
intervention.
That's
a
critical
part
of
it
as
well
and
I
say
that,
because
it's
it's
very
frustrating
to
me
that
the
media
is
just
getting
on
this
now
as
if
we
haven't
been
talking
about
it
when
it
actually
been
talking
about
it
for
years
and
years,
just
calling
it
something.
Different
now
does
change
the
fact
that
this
is
an
approach
that
we
have
tried
before
we're
not
doing
it
effectively,
because
it's
so
siloed
between
different
bodies
of
government.
A
The
thing
is,
we
did
the
things
we
did
in
the
past
and
this
past
year.
The
number
was
way
up,
so
it
looks
like
we're
missing
the
mark
or
maybe
that
the
costs
of
this
are
actually
beyond
the
scope
of
our
control
and
when
we
had
the
Keith
Lamont
Scott
aftermath,
we
thought
about
a
Community,
Action
Plan,
and
that
was
at
that
time
we
were
looking
at
what
was
within
the
scope
of
the
city
to
do
that
might
address.
G
A
C
E
I
think
part
of
recognizing
it
as
a
public
health
crisis,
but
more
so
in
terms
of
it
not
being
on
the
agenda,
but
looking
we
have
to
look
at
this
issue
just
as
many
of
the
big
issues
kind
of
horizontally,
that
this
is
not
something
that
we
we
look
at
just
you
know
from,
as
it
said
from
a
police
standpoint,
how
how's
this
department
going
to
phone
in
this.
But
how
are
we
addressing
crime?
E
How
we
dition
really
addressing
poverty,
which
is
the
underlying,
because
crime
is
a,
is
a
function
of
poverty
almost
greatly
and
that
relates
to
public
health
and
and
all
those
other
things
so
I.
Think
as
we
are
thinking
about
this,
as
we
are
thinking
about
all
these
big
issues,
I
think
the
point
is
is
that
we
have
to
always
be
dealing
with
it
in
some
way,
with
whatever
policy
decisions.
Whatever
decisions
that
we're
making
week
to
week
day
to
day
yeah.
D
D
Not
only
do
we
talk
about
it
as
a
public
health
crisis,
but
we
also
talk
about
where
we're
going
forward
with
emergency
management,
which
is
the
broader
issue.
I
Eve.
We
got
hypothetically
2021,
17,
more
public
events,
that's
going
to
have
over
30,000
more
folks,
their
final
concert,
so
the
terrorist
gets
to
be
right.
D
Once
we
got
to
be
right
every
time
we
have
a
big
public
event,
so
I
would
hope
that
we
would
talk
about
specifically
on
Monday
the
the
issue
of
what
are
we
going
to
do
collectively
as
a
council
and
then
apart
across
governmental
lines,
which
is
where
a
lot
of
things
that
we
have
to
do
I
believe
it's
under
domain
of
the
county,
and
how
do
we
begin
to
work
together
to
accomplish
solving
this
public
health
crisis
that
I
called
it
that
Mike
I?
Just
worry?
That's
what
it
is,
but
more
importantly,
had
to
retreat.
D
How
do
we
begin
to
really
think
about
emergency
management?
We're
not
only
talking
about
police,
but
we're
talking
about
fire.
We're
talking
about
emergency
preparation
for
these
large-scale
events
that
we'll
be
doing
a
lot
more
frequently
come
2021
I
mean
is
that
involved
in
the
negotiations
whose
complete
for
the
extra
police
officer
417
more
soccer
matches
automatically
yeah
our
six
five
seven
more
bake
concerts
with
70,000
votes
votes,
they're,
both
Brooks
who's,
gonna
how's,
that
gonna
be
absorbed
so
hopefully
there'll
be
a
drill
down
to
the
various
issues
like
the
murder
rate
in
Charlotte.
G
Mr.
chair
I
counsel
meant
for
him.
I
totally
agree
with
you,
so
on
Monday
of
one
of
the
things
that
we'd
like
to
discuss
to
begin
with.
I,
don't
think
we've
really
had
this
discussion.
Is
these
evidence-based
programs.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
programs
and
it's
not
just
around
public
safety
if,
as
we
start
to
go
back
the
last
couple
of
decades,
if
there's
a
a
initiative
out
there
throw
a
program
in
it
and
we're
not
sure
how
I'm
successful
with
those
programs
have
been.
G
So
when
we
start
to
discuss
this
in
terms
of
not
just
the
city
but
the
county,
the
schools
have
partners
as
well
as
what
has
been
proven
to
work.
It
really
changes
the
focus,
so
that's
part
of
Monday
and
then,
as
we
go
into
the
retreat,
absolutely
what's
the
impact
of
more
events.
The
impact
of
what
we're
seeing
on
our
resources
will
be
important.
A
A
So
really
this
this
is,
you
know
our
working
plan
for
this
year.
So
do
we
have
specific
initiatives
associated
with
budget
outlays
that
we
intend
to
implement
this
year,
and
are
we
going
to
schedule
meetings
with
the
funders
of
the
courts
and
the
district
attorney
in
order
to
try
to
get
their
resources
increased
because
we
are
legitimate
stakeholders
in
all
of
that
things
like
that,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't.
G
So,
thank
you.
Mister
chair,
so
I
started
off
with
talking
about
the
2018
retreat,
because
I
think
in
terms
of
tangible
outcomes,
it's
the
best
that
we
had
right
now
because
we
did
think
about.
We
had
a
topic,
give
many
topics
but
you've
locked
in
on
the
affordable
housing
last
year
he
locked
in
on
jobs,
the
economy
and
upward
mobility
this
year
for
the
last
I
would
say
five
six
months
we've
been
talking
about
mobility,
accessibility
and
connectivity
or
transportation
transit,
and
that
is
what
we've
always
see,
this
being
the
big
takeaway
from
this
retreat.
G
It
doesn't
mean
that
it
dominates
everything
and
I
believe
that
day,
two
of
the
retreat,
if
the
main
focus
of
that
you
will
have
not
only
the
guy
to
my
left
talk
about
Ryan
Bergman,
he
does
have
an
inland
sorry
talk
about
our
capital
improvement
plan
which,
if
you
will
recall
we're
on
the
last
cycle
of
this
for
bond
cycle
right,
so
2018,
16
and
14.
So
back
in
13,
more
or
less
the
city
locked
in
two
for
bond
cycles.
So
a
bit
we
will
introduce
not
just
the
bond
the
2020
bond
cycle.
G
That's
already
been
pre-populated,
but
also
begin
to
talk
about
the
bond
cycles
that
have
nothing
associated
with
them.
22
24,
26
28,
but
I
would
like
for
everybody
to
understand
that
starting
off,
we
do
have
an
affordability
opportunity
in
each
one
of
those
cycles.
223
million
dollars
is
what
we
have
set
aside
for
each
one
of
those
bond
cycles:
I'm
not
going
to
make
eye
contact
with
Kelly
Flannery
who's
in
the
corner.
Right
now,
our
CFO,
because
those
numbers
will
change.
G
Hopefully
they
only
get
better,
but
we
have
a
great
opportunity
when
we
discuss
mobility,
accessibility
and
connectivity.
How
are
we
going
to
go
about
populating
those
bond
cycles
in
the
future?
And
it's
it's?
It's
perfect
alignment
in
terms
of
the
2040
plan
and
everything
that
we're
doing,
because
a
bulk
of,
what's
in
those
bond
cycles
outside
of
the
air
air
cops,
which
is
the
correct
term
for
that
that
was
the
not
to
acronym
certificates
of
participation.
H
G
The
one
talking
acronyms
certificates
of
participation,
which
the
Nazi
NPD
you're
right,
which
the
voters
do
not
throw
on
but
outside
of
that
for
the
most
part,
the
bonds
have
been
around
affordable
house
or
housing,
neighborhoods
and
transportation.
So
again,
it's
just
a
great
alignment
as
council
member
of
wimps
and
say
it
early.
If
we
look
at
this
horizontally,
it's
an
opportunity
to
address
so
many
things,
because
we
for
the
first
one
since
I've
been
here
for
the
first
time,
there's
a
clean
slate
in
terms
of
it.
I
was
the
future
boss.
A
I
You,
mr.
chair,
so
in
terms
of
the
dad
capacity
and
I
think
the
I
was
going
to
bring
up
the
topic.
Also,
if
we
can
have
a
capital
projects
overview,
so
I
know
there
has
been,
there
will
be
for
one
cycle,
but
what
has
not
been
used
and
what
are
we
or
what?
If
there
is
anything
we
should
be
looking
at
in
terms
of
cost.
I
Surplus,
maybe
or
maybe
not
surplus.
So
if
you
can
look
at
the
capital
projects
and
figure
out
if
there
are
any
opportunities
that
could
we
could
use
in
future
and
just
the
entire
schedule
of
all
the
capital
projects
and
see
where
we
are
with
it,
are
we
meeting
the
targets
and
also
having
some
sort
of
metrics
I
agree
with
what
mr.
Drake
said
about
having
specific
deliverables
we're
also
metrics
and
performance
I
mean
how
do
we
know
we?
I
We
met
XY
and
Z,
so
having
some
sort
of
goals
around
mobility
would
be
important
because
it's
such
a
it's
a
it's,
it's
a
very
general
topic.
But
how
do
we
measure
that
we
we
have
done
what
we
could
do
in
a
year
to
tackle
upward
mobility
right?
It
could
be
measured
from
transportation
perspective
in
building
equity
or
it
could
be
creating
more
jobs
or
it
could
be
really
addressing
some
of
our
homicides,
but
that's
again,
I
think
to
what
Mayor
Pro
champ
had
said.
C
I
think
you
know
the
manager
pointed
out
that
the
discussion
really
this
next
year,
the
high
level
theme
is
gonna,
be
about
transportation,
mobility,
connectivity
and
and
we've
all
been
talking
about
the
bus
system
and
the
need
to
make
our
bus
system
more
efficient.
That
and
we
know
what
the
number
is
more
or
less
from
John
Lewis.
C
But
if
that's
35
million
in
operating
costs
and
100
million
in
capital,
then
we
really
have
to
have
that
conversation
at
the
retreat
err.
What
are
the
trade-offs?
How
are
we
going
to
achieve
that?
Some
cities
have
said
you
know
once
that
number
gets
put
out
there.
Cities
like
Seattle,
said
you
need
to
move
that
up,
because
we
want
that.
Now,
and
so
they
you
know,
they
had
to
really
look
at
their
bond
referendums
and
their
bond
structure.
What
does
it
mean
to
move
it
up?
What
does
that
mean
from
a
accessibility
standpoint?
C
These
would
be
building
more
housing
right,
because,
if
you're,
if
you're
talking
about
our
bus
system,
if
we
could
make
it
more
efficient
that
also
to
the
point
of
being
more
horizontal
that
plays
into
what
we
consider
to
be
affordable
living,
these
have
some
big
price
tags
attached
to
them
and
I.
Think
we've
got
to
have
these
conversations
at
the
retreat,
because
there
will
have
to
be
choices
made.
A
Comment
on
that,
mr.
Whitson,
the
cats
right
now
is
funded
by
a
half
cent
sales
tax
by
a
maintenance
of
effort
payment
from
the
city
and
by
farebox
collections,
basically
right.
So
what
that
could
imply
is
that
we
need
to
take
a
fundamental
look
at
the
resources
that
are
available
because
operating
within
those
constraints.
They've
already
told
us.
This
is
kind
of
what
we
can
do,
and
this
is
what
we
have
the
capacity
for.
It
looks
like
what
our
aspiration
is
to
have
more
bus
service
that
can
be
funded
from
those
sources.
A
So
maybe
the
question
is:
do
we
take
a
basic
look
at
whether
we
step
outside?
And
if
so,
you
know,
what
does
that?
Look?
Like
I
mean
the
sales
tax
thing,
the
dedicated
half
cent
sales
tax.
We
have
technically
a
quarter
cent
capacity
on
sales
tax
generally.
That
was
not
taken
up
in
this
recent
referendum
anyway.
I
just
put
that
out.
A
E
E
I
think
if
we
come
out
of
there
with
that
matrix
with
that
30-60-90
day
approach
and
then
have
a
plan
to
revisit
that
in
the
30
60
90
days,
so
continue
to
look
at
where
we
are
on
our
matrix
and
to
kind
of
retouching,
and
that
would
be
really
valuable
and
hopefully
we
can
we
can.
We
can
implement
that
throughout
the
time
so
that
we
can
do
those
things
like
those
buses.
We
can
say.
Okay,
this
makes
sense
what
that
might
make
a
little
more
sense,
let's
go
and
tell
staff
to
go
and
do
that.
E
E
We
did
the
improv
thing
last
time,
but
something
that
kind
of
makes
us
think
a
little
bit
a
little
differently
critically
and
as
a
team
figuring
out
how
to
team
build
I've
always
found
that
experience
works
very
well,
and
it's
worthwhile
it's
worth
an
hour
or
two
when
you're
in
the
same
room
with
the
same
group
of
people
that
you
have
supposed
to
be
working
with.
That
goes
a
long
way.
E
Last
thing,
I
have
to
say
I
think
would
be
valuable,
specifically
for
the
returning
members
of
council.
What
we
do
in
between,
but
in
between
budget
cycles,
is
really
a
function
either
of
the
last
budget
or
a
future
budget,
and
between
there
we
ask
things
of
staff.
We
ask
for
information
that
inform
our
priorities,
inform
where
we
want
to
be
what
we
want.
The
process
to
go.
E
I
think
would
be
very
helpful
if
staff
kind
of
went
back
through
the
minutes
of
the
meetings
and
was
able
to
give
individual
council
members
things
that
they
questions
that
they
ask.
You
know
topics
that
they
brought
up,
that
we
might
have
forgotten
or
specifics
that
we
might.
That
might
still
be
a
priority.
It
would
be
very
valuable
to
say
at
least
be
able
to
reference
those
things
so
that
we
can
talk
from
a
body
of
work
amongst
each
other
and
not
just
whatever
idea
that
we
can
recall
at
that
moment
in
time.
E
G
H
G
I
know
I've
totally
agree
with
you
and
will
answer
that
the
response,
so
sometimes
what
I
hear
is
that
we
have
not
responded
to
counsel,
but
then
we
go
back.
We
realize
that
we
did,
but
if
we
did
and
you
didn't
get
it,
that
means
that
we're
not
responding.
So
we
need
to
find
better
ways
to
communicate
with
counsel
so
that
some
questions
that
come
up
don't
continuously
come
up.
H
D
E
D
The
harder
stuff
that
I
really
want
to
drill
down
on
when
we
talk
about
economic
development,
corridors
and
neighborhoods
and
communities
and
strategies
to
work
with
transforming
our
small
business
program
from
a
procurement
base
to
actually
kind
of
getting
people
and
penny
people
in
business
along
these
fragile
and
threatened
corridor.
So
I
appreciate
the
conversation
for
economic
development
looking
forward
to
it.
Obviously
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
Honeywell's
and
you
know
all
those
things
soccer,
but
to
keep
my
interest.
D
I
really
would
like
to
throw
that
out
and
talk
about
what's
happening
on
the
ground.
What
can
we
do
to
transform
freedom
and
Tuckasegee
and
Bay's
for
road
and
huckabee
incentivize,
a
small
business
that
me
I
know
I
only
there
owns
a
restaurant
on
graham
streets.
You
must
have
relocate
somewhere
in
the
city.
Is
there
a
road
for
the
city
to
pay
them
to
relocate
that
business,
which
is
a
sadhana
restaurant
to
a
corridor
that
doesn't
have
a
sit-down
restaurant?
D
D
G
D
A
C
G
G
A
Right
strategy
session
right,
I
wanted
to
bring
up
well,
I
want
to
mention
also
council
member
Mitchell
in
his
priorities.
Talks
about
CBI
and
I
think
this
relates
also
to
the
Economic
Opportunity
thing.
The
work
we're
doing
to
try
to
get
businesses
signed
up
to
participate
in
our
program
and
kind
of
expand
the
scope
of
the
ways
that
we
seek
to
create
opportunity.
A
A
Anybody
else
I
wanted
to
ask
about
housing.
We
we
did
a
50
million
dollar
bond
initially
with
the
plan
of
going
to
25
and
15
in
the
subsequent
bond
cycles
than
we
did
50
in
the
next
bond
cycle.
Do
you
intend
to
make
a
recommendation
for
further
50
in
the
2020
bond
cycle
or
what
does
that
look
like
going
forward?
So
mr.
G
A
G
G
A
Right
I
mean
you
know
that,
that's
to
me,
a
lot
of
these
conversations
are
interesting
in
the
context
of
what
else
you're
giving
as
I
keep
saying.
We
need
to
make
these
big
commitments
in
an
environment
where
we're
not
disregarding
other
obligations.
So
if
we
put
50
million
into
housing
and
every
bond
cycle,
that's
about
a
quarter
almost
a
quarter
of
our
capacity
and
even
though
it's
a
very
important
priority
for
us.
We
have
the
blocking
and
tackling
on
the
streets,
and
things
like
that.
A
C
And
I
haven't
brought
this
up
to
you,
mr.
chair,
but
over
the
holiday
I
have
been
giving
this
a
lot
of
thought
and
in
our
budget,
I
think
that
we
fund
the
arts
to
a
greater
degree
than
we
even
give
ourselves
credit
for
because
of
our
place,
making
grants
and
some
of
our
other
grant
processes
that
other
cities
consider
in
their
arts
and
cultural.
C
Well.
Other
cities
have
their
own
departments
and
those
grants
fall
within
those
budgets,
and
so,
in
light
of
the
fact
that
the
sales
tax
for
the
Arts
failed
I
wonder
if
there,
if
the
city,
the
council
would
entertain
the
idea
of
us
doing,
working
with
a
consultant
like
Boston,
has
done
it
with
a
company
called
TDC,
as
have
some
of
the
other
cities
of
doing
a
citywide
cultural
excuse.
C
Me
planning
process
a
study
to
look
at
what
we
do
as
a
community
to
support
arts
and
culture
and
capture
what
we
as
a
city
actually
do
fund
and
how
we
might
do
it
better.
So
the
question
would
be
within
our
and
maybe
that's
your
control
anyway,
or
help
what
the
process
would
be
for
that.
But
I
I
think
that's
something
that
I
would
like
to
have
discussed
at
the
retreat
as
well.
So.
G
Mayor
pro-tem,
you
will
have
that
in
the
pre
read
because
that's
one
of
the
items
that
came
up
in
the
questioning
of
the
council-
yes
know
how
deep
it
is.
It
wouldn't
reach
to
where
you
are,
but
still
there
would
be
a
document
that
you
would
have
at
that.
First,
two
hours
of
the
retreat
to
put
on
the
table
to
see
what
the
council
would
like
for
us
to.
A
A
I
A
Just
going
to
say,
we
have
in
place
a
C
app
we're
on
a
certain
trajectory
I
think
we've
had
conversations
about
buses
and
things
which
pointed
to
constraints
on
the
technology
and
on
the
finances.
The
federal
government
role,
those
things,
particularly
in
the
context
of
the
the
transportation
discussion.
We
also
need
to
be
looking
at
what
what
I
guess
is
the
one
of
the
early
frontiers
of
our
environmental
efforts,
which
is
on
the
buses.
So
is
there
any
news,
or
would
you
come
to
us
saying
these?
A
G
Yes,
mr.
chair
I'm,
not
sure
if
you're
setting
me
up
but
I'll
take
the
paint
okay.
So
we
are
now
the
first
year
of
the
C.
F
was
basically
planning
and
I.
Think
we
go
back
to
the
report
by
year,
two
there
would
actually
be
dollars
associated
with
buildings
and
transportation
infrastructure,
whether
it's
electric
vehicles
for
a
fleet
or
what
we're
doing
as
we
design
buildings.
G
So,
yes,
you
will
start
to
see
that
they're
going
to
be
asked
as
it
relates
to
electrifying
the
fleet
and
what
we
do
in
our
buildings
and
as
we
knew
from
the
beginning,
there
is
some
costs
over
and
above
what's
a
baseline
when
it
comes
to
being
more
energy
efficient
with
their
buildings.
So
you've
long
went
away,
I
apologize
for
saying
yes,
so.
A
G
Mr.
chair,
what
I
hope-
and
this
is
what
time
I
would
say,
hope
is
not
a
strategy.
Is
it
that
doesn't
come
up,
because
we
asked
for
your
input
on
the
front
end
and
we're
trying
to
capture
as
much
information
as
we
can
now,
if
all
of
a
sudden
there's
something
new
that
comes
up
Monday.
Of
course
it's
going
to
be
disgusted,
but
our
strong
desire
was
that
the
the
surveys
that
we
got
from
you
were
the
things
that
you
wanted
to
talk
about
at
the
retreat.
So.
A
A
A
I
I
didn't
put
that
in
the
survey,
because
I
thought
we
already
had
a
plan
and
it's
just
implementation
that
I
think
the
staff
is
already
doing
that.
I,
don't
like
an
update
on
circular
economy,
I
I,
know,
I.
Think
the
plan
that
original
that
council
had
approved
initial
funding
of
half
a
million.
We
should
have
seen
some
sort
of
implementation
by
now,
so
I
think
if
we
can
get
an
update
on
that
I
think
they
spent.
We
have
put
in
lot
of
seed
investments.
A
Thought
I
understood
that
there
were
constraints
on
the
technology
that
made
electric
buses
unsuitable
in
some
situations,
all
electric
and
therefore
the
hybrids
were
the
kind
of
interim
solution.
But
then
you've
got
that
12
year.
Federal
funding
cycle
and
I'm
not
sure
how
we
solved
that
New
York
City's
on
all
electric.
I
Even
North
Carolina,
so
many
other
cities
have
done
it
and
I
know
that
you
talked
about
a
pilot
where
we
tested,
because
every
geographical
area
is
different
so
and
I
know
there
have.
There
were
several
proposals
by
community
members,
including
Patera
I,
had
a
meeting
with
Proterra
aware
there
have
they
have
several
grants
that
are
available
for
cities
to
apply
for
so
there
is
not
a
friend
huge
investment
of
half
a
million
dollar
per
bus
setting.
If
we
can
explore
some
of
that,
while
also
addressing
that
efficiency
that
mayor
pro-tem
can
address
around.
I
G
Are
considering
a
sprinter
bus,
electric
bus,
it
goes
from
the
airport
to
the
Transit
Center
and
what
we
will
attempt
to
do
is
piggyback
off
of
the
infrastructure
that
the
airport
has
built
for
their
electric
buses.
So
I
will
give
you
a
report
each
time
we
talk
about
it
more.
We
get
more
information,
some
positive,
some
negative,
but
I'm
thinking
more
positive
than
negative,
so
I
do
believe,
there's
a
chance
for
both.
Are
we
going
to
be
able
to
electrify
the
the
cants
buses
tomorrow?
G
No,
but
can
we
show
that
this
can
work
by
a
sprinter,
that's
going
back
and
forth
from
the
airport
to
the
Train
sinner?
The
other
thing
I'd,
like
to
add,
is
I
really
enjoy
this
dialogue
that
we're
having,
because
it's
something
that
mr.
Winston
said
earlier
about
2018
and
we're
trying
to
structure
2020
the
same
way.
G
One
thing
I
don't
want
us
to
forget
is
that
in
2018,
you're,
more
or
less
gave
us
that
direction
to
think
boldly
about
the
housing
trust
fund
and
prior
to
that
it
was
15
million
dollars
every
other
year
and
you'll
have
to
bond
cycles
that
have
gotten
to
a
hundred
million
dollars.
So
I
believe
that,
as
you
continue
to
discuss,
these
issues
was
the
C
AB
or
han't
frequencies
with
buses.
If
we
get
that
direction,
we're
going
to
work
very
hard
to
try
to
get
you
a
plane
that
works.
E
I'm
gonna
make
this
comment
as
vice-chair
of
intergovernmental
relations
committee-
I'm
not
going
to
speak
for
mr.
Bukhari,
but
it's
a
conversation
that
we
have
behalf
and
specifically
as
it
relates
to
us
we're
entering
into
a
budget
season.
One
of
the
things
that
I've
been
trying
to
do
is
meet
with
our
colleagues
on
different
boards,
County
Commission
or
all
of
you,
individually
or
at
school,
and
start
reaching
out
the
school
board
as
well,
because
what
you
said
is
you
mr.
Driggs
and
mrs.
ISIL
has
said
it's
very
true
dependent
on
our
priorities.
E
Those
have
very
serious
budget
implications
and
what
we
can
and
can't
do
here
to
hear,
but
as
I'm
having
conversations
with
other
people,
they
have
similar
priorities
and
are
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
how
can
they
get
their
organizations
and
sometimes
there
are
intersections
there.
So
I
would
like
to
make.
Maybe
if
we
can
spend
some
time
here,
maybe
it
already
works
and
goals
or
something
like
that
where
we
can
think
about?
E
Okay,
how
can
we
move
any
more
formally
I
guess
interconnected
with
those
other
organizations
and
what
they're
doing
perhaps
there
are
things
that,
for
instance,
around
buses.
I
know
that
there
are
several
county
commissioners
that
have
priorities
around
the
environment
and
transportation
different
parts
of
the
county.
So
the
can
it
make
sense
where
we
focus
on,
for
instance,
I'm
just
throwing
spaghetti
on
the
wall.
This
is
not
simply
where
we,
where
we
focus
on
electrifying
the
bus
fleet
and
they
put
resources
to
different
commute
times
in
different
parts
of
the
county,
or
something
like
that.
E
A
B
B
But
because
I
think
I'm,
the
only
council
person
that
has
not
attended
the
retreat
I,
don't
know
what
the
expectations
are
so
I
just
would
imagine
that
all
of
our
priorities
and
all
of
our
I
saw
this
more
as
a
strategic
planning
session,
and
maybe
a
review
of
you
know
what
the
priorities
are,
but
it's
a
three
or
four
day
event
right,
so
we
as
council,
we
still
have
the
opportunity
to
implement
policies
outside
of
the
meeting.
Obviously
right.
B
B
Would
have
one
example
Georgia
tree
and
you
know
I'm
a
human
services
professional,
but
one
example
is
mental
health
and
brain
injury.
We
talk
about
you
know
the
North
Carolina
has
an
action
plan
that
they
know
that
there's
only
I
think
thirty,
seven
dollars
per
person
for
brain
injury,
and
we
know
that
there's
a
disproportionate
amount
in
the
jails
and
the
homeless.
B
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we're
going
to
do
is
City
Council
there
and
that's
what
I
was
just
trying
to
understand
how
we're
in
the
budget
meeting
talking
about
the
strategic
planning
session.
So
that's
why
I've
been
kind
of
quiet,
but
I
know
that
we
have
an
opportunity
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
work
outside
of.
What's
in
this.
A
E
Miss
Johnson
I
since
I,
probably
am
the
closest
to
you
in
terms
of
you
know.
Two
years
ago,
I
was
going
through
my
first
retreat
as
well
and
you're
gonna
get
a
lot
of
information,
you're
right,
there's
a
time
and
opportunity
plenty
of
time
an
opportunity
to
have
all
the
other
discussions.
What
this
is
the
really
the
unique
opportunity
for
us
as
counsel
and
with
our
with
our
senior
staff,
to
get
our
right
and
so
really.
As
mr.
Drake
said,
this
is
really
going
to
our
ship.
E
So
so
this
is,
if
we're
successful
coming
on,
if
we're
able
to
put
honestly
everything
on
the
table
and
then
literally
get
it
in
order,
and
we
have
a
framework
for
us
to
operate
under,
we
are
clear
with
with
each
other.
Our
staff
is
getting
clear
guidance
and
that
informs
all
the
other
work
that
we
do.
We
do
week
month
to
month.
E
So
do
all
of
those
those
other
things,
but
outside
of
this
there's
really-
and
it's
not
going
to
be
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
us
to
have
kind
of
critical
and
enduring
kind
of
conversations,
and
and
while
it
is
always
based
in
policy,
we
won't
be
making
any
policy
decisions
there
we'll
be
throwing
out
ideas
and
figuring
out
how
to
get
meat
on
those
bones.
So
that's
what
I
think
I
would
say.
I
will
I
look
forward
to
in
those
three
or
four
days
that
we
we
just
won't
get
another
opportunity
to
until
next
January.
I
Also,
you
know
there
would
be
times
where
issues
might
come
up
that
are
not
addressed
or
not
part,
one
on
Pyro's
a
retreat
and
I
think
that
will
that
we
will
still
have
that
opportunity
to
discuss
that
I
have
later
time
so
I
know
in
2018
when
we
had
a
retreat
or
or
2019
there
was.
There
are
several
items
that
I
think
reading
discuss
as
a
council,
but
then,
when
the
issues
came
up,
we
were
able
to
address
them
through
policy
or
through
strategic
sessions.
So
there
is
still
strategic
sessions.
I
That's
gonna
continue
every
first
Monday
of
the
month
for
anything
that
comes
up.
So
if
you
can't
think
of
something
right
now,
I'm
sure
there
would
be
another
opportunity.
I
mean
this
is
an
important
session
where
we
have
a
lot
to
talk
about
I'm
sure
there
would
be
a
few
things
that
can
come
up
from
now:
I
guess
after
the
retreat
or
something
from
now
to
even
June
or
July.
So.
A
Okay,
so
got
time
to
wrap
up
clearly
we're
gonna
have
to
talk
about
2040
plan
right
there's
a
lot
of
that
I
agree
with
the
point
about
intergovernmental,
in
particular,
our
housing
policies
and
zoning
decisions
have
a
profound
effect
on
the
school
system
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
we
have
fully
addressed
that
that
dynamic.
So
that's
something
that
will
probably
come
up,
but
I
hope
you
have
taken
away
from
this.