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From YouTube: City Council Strategy Session : February 3, 2020
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A
B
Been
a
rather
hectic
day,
we
have
had
a
few
things
that
we
have
had
to
change
on
our
agenda
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
note
of
that
and
and
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
understand
our
agenda
has
very
short,
topical
I
line
items
or
topics
descriptions.
So
we
are
going
to
I,
don't
think
I
have
the
latest
copy
of
the
agenda
to
some
I.
Do
I
have
dog
tethering
as
our
first
item
of
the
agenda?
B
Yes,
okay,
so
dog
tethering
provisions
we're
going
to
get
a
report
from
the
staff
and
then
we're
going
to
have
a
discussion
around
circus
animals
regulations
and
we
are
not
going
to
hear
from
the
Brooke
Hill
development
developer
because
we
didn't.
This
is
just
an
error
on
procedure
and
process.
We
would
we
do
not
hear
from
all
of
the
developers
submitting
requests
to
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
until
the
staff
has
reviewed
those
trust
fund
applications,
and
so
that
was
an
error
jumping
ahead
of
the
game.
B
B
Last
week
we
had
the
City
Clerk's
report
on
boards
and
commissions
that
we'd
ran
out
of
time
and
the
clerk
will
present.
That
and
comments
will
be
there.
We
have
an
item
for
rural
clarification
around
the
citizens,
review
board
bylaws
and
the
city
attorneys
going
to
help
us
with
that.
The
city
manager
is
going
to
update
us
with
our
annual
strategy
meeting
summary
and
the
next
steps
committee
reports
will
follow
in
the
order
that
they're
listed
generally
and
then
later
on.
I'll
have
an
announcement
about
our
Governance
Committee.
B
C
You,
mayor
and
members
of
council,
so
tonight
we
have
Murray
Harris
who
provided
you
with
a
staff
report
on
both
dog
tethering
provisions
and
circus
animal
regulations.
At
the
end
of
last
year,
we
had
an
opportunity
to
provide
that
to
you
at
the
last
year's
session,
but
no
deep
discussion,
so
Murray
will
do
two
things
tonight.
One
is
go
over
the
report,
but
also
there
have
been
a
series
of
questions
since
that
report.
C
I
believe
some
of
those
questions
have
been
many
of
those
have
been
answered
and
passed
back
to
you,
but
the
goal
of
this
presentation
is
to
bring
you
up
to
speed
with
some
of
the
findings
as
well
as
level
setting
with
some
of
the
questions
they
have
been
asked
so
mayor.
If
that's
fine
with
you
we'll
turn
it
over
to
Murray
all.
D
There
were
some
discussions
around
what
types
of
provisions
do
we
have
overall
for
animals
and
to
care
for
animals,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
and
we
in
the
report
we
attached
the
full
chapter
three
of
our
city
code
animals
and
within
that,
if
you
want
to
reference
your
packet
in
front
of
you,
the
tethering
report,
if
you
reference
page
23,
it
goes
over
some
of
our
provisions
in
place
to
prevent
animal
abuse.
Now
this
is
for
overall,
and
we
called
out
a
few
of
those
here
for
you
on
the
slide.
D
You
must
have
adequate
food
and
water,
adequate
shelter,
protect
animals
from
stream
of
weather,
heat,
cold
and
rain,
sufficient
shade
shelter
must
allow
them
to
remain
dry
and
comfort
during
inclement
weather,
and
that's
just
a
few
of
them
that
are
pulled
out.
Those
are
overall
animal
provision
protections
we
have
in
the
current
ordinance
and
specific
to
tethering,
so
in
September
of
2010
council
updated
the
animal
ordinance
provisions
around
tethering
to
put
specific
criteria
in
place
and
those
were
voted
on
in
September
and
implemented.
D
March
1st
2011
and
the
current
provisions
include
adequate
food,
shelter
and
water.
The
tether
must
be
a
minimum
of
10
feet
long
that
must
have
a
swivel
on
both
ends.
It
must
be
made
of
a
metal
chain
or
coated
steel
cable.
It
must
provide
the
animal
unobstructed,
uninstructed
range
of
motion
without
the
possibility
of
being
entangled
or
injured.
D
The
dog
has
to
be
at
least
4
months
old
to
be
tethered,
and
the
tether
may
weigh
no
more
than
10%
of
the
dog's
body
weight
and
it
must
be
attached
to
the
dog
with
either
a
buckle
style,
harness
or
collar
and
never
used
with
a
choke
or
pinch
collar.
You
can
only
attach
one
dog
to
a
single
tether
and
the
tether
must
maintain
that
the
dog
does
not
go
it
within
5
feet
of
any
property
line.
D
So
those
are
the
current
ordinance
pieces
in
place
and
when
we
were
part
of
our
review
of
the
current
ordinance,
sorry,
we
were
benchmarking
with
some
of
our
peer
cities
and
just
as
a
reminder,
our
peer
cities
are
selected
based
on
socio-economic
and
demographic
criteria,
similar
to
the
City
of
Charlotte.
We
have
a
city
engineer,
a
doctor,
tazza
four,
who
ran
statistical
analysis
and
how
they
clustered
most
closely
to
us
and
that's
how
we
have
these
twenty
peer
cities
that
you're
familiar
with.
We
typically
benchmark
services
with.
D
And
of
our
national
peer
cities
is
tethering
allowed.
Seven
do
not
allow
chattering
at
all
13
allow
it
with
certain
criteria
in
place,
and
we
also
benchmarked
some
of
our
North
Carolina
cities
and
of
those
three
do
not
allow
it
at
all
and
to
have
specific
regulations
in
place
around
its
use
in
just
more
detail
around
our
peer
cities.
D
Again,
there's
seven
that
do
not
allow
unintuitive
unattended
tethering
at
all,
and
two
of
those
are
due
to
a
state
law
in
California,
a
statewide
ban
on
tethering
within
the
thirteen
that
do
we
try
to
help
you
cry
by
calling
out
some
of
the
specific
criteria
that
must
be
in
place
for
tethering.
As
far
as
the
length
of
the
tether,
the
time
tethering
is
allowed
the
weight
of
the
tether,
how
the
tether
is
worn
or
attached
to
the
animal
if
the
dog
must
be
spayed
or
neutered
to
be
tethered.
D
D
And
then,
based
on
our
review,
we're
recommending
to
keep
the
current
ordinance
with
the
safety
provisions
in
place.
We
don't
recommend
at
this
time
banning
tethering
based
on
equity
concerns
or
unintended
consequences,
such
as
additional
dogs
being
have
to
surrender
to
shelters
or
less
homes
available
for
dogs
or
potential
unattended
consequences
of
financial
impacts
to
citizens.
B
D
D
A
dog
is
allowed
to
be
tethered
and
for
this
one
we
want
to
be
real
clear
when
we
say
hours
a
day
we
mean,
like
some
say
you
can't
after
11:00,
between
like
11:00
p.m.
and
6:00
a.m.
those
types
of
hours
of
the
day
versus
amount
of
time.
When
we
talk
to
other
health,
animal
care
professionals
across
the
nation,
the
ones
with
a
said,
it's
really
not
feasible,
if
you
only
say,
can
only
be
five
hours
or
a
certain
amount
of
time.
It's
not
really
feasible
to
enforce
so
in
Lhasa.
D
Consider
a
ban
on
tethering
and
established
parameters
allowing
specific
instances
where
tethering
is
allowable
and
what
we
mean
there.
Some
places
where
it's
banned.
They
say
it's
banned,
but
you
can
tether
your
dog
if
you're
working
and
if
it's
working
or
if
it's
hunting
or,
if
you're,
camping
or
for
temporary
relief
those
types
of
criteria
and
thank
you
with
that
and
I-
don't
know
if
you
want
to
discuss
or
you
have
further
questions
for
me.
E
E
That
is
because
I
think
it's
important
that
we
really
drill
down
on
on
the
issue
being
presented
by
stakeholders
here
and
certainly
there
are
jurisdictions
throughout
the
country,
peer
cities
that
banned
dog
tethering
altogether,
and
everyone
else
has
restrictions
upon
tethering,
but
I
think
what
we're
overlooking
in
I'm
glad
that
we
have
that
that
chart.
That
I
think
was
created
after
some
questions
were
raised
by
counsel.
E
But
what
we're
really
talking
about
here
and
I
think
the
issue
presented
by
stakeholders
is
whether
or
not
there
will
be
unattended
dog
tethering
for
death
period
of
time,
and
let
me
just
break
that
down.
So
that
is
a
restriction
in
its
own
right,
but
it's
a
restriction
that
we
don't
have,
and
others
certainly
do
so
to
the
extent
that
there's
banning
to
the
extent
that
there's
dog
tethering
that
that's
allowable
so
long
as
there
is
someone
attending
to
the
animal
I.
E
That's
something
that
we
are
an
exception
to
the
general
rule
in
in
that
in
that
last,
that
last
chart
and
I
think
this
is
what's
important
to
note
when
you
kind
of
break
it
down
and
we
you
know,
we
had
sifted
through
all
this
information
here
over
the
past
three
weeks.
What
you'll
see
is
that
there
greater
majority
of
our
peer
cities,
13
and
arguably
14,
including
Minneapolis,
the
greater
majority
at
the
very
least.
E
So
when
there
isn't
a
ban
at
the
very
least,
they
say
that
if
you're
going
to
tether
a
dog,
you
have
to
attend.
You
have
to
supervise
that
animal
and
that's
because
there
are
scientifically
empirical
data
that
that
shows
that
when
you
don't
do
that,
certainly
it's
inhumane
to
the
animal,
but
it
poses
a
public
safety
risk
at
the
same
time.
I
think
that
and
then
you
know
just
kind
of
further
underscoring
the
point
here.
E
We
receive
information
that
that
I,
don't
think,
is
within
our
presentation
here
tonight,
but
we
received
information
whereby
four
of
the
five
benchmark
cities
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina,
three
of
them
have
AB
and
the
other
one
also
places
a
time
restriction
on
on
unattended
once
again,
unattended,
dog,
tethering
and,
and
so
that
would
be
four
out
of
five
I
I.
Think
given
those
numbers
were
certainly
behind
the
curve.
E
I
know
that
we've
had
a
conversation
about
the
equity
aspect
of
this
and
I
would
submit
to
my
colleagues
the
consideration
so
outside
the
context
of
a
complete
ban.
At
least
the
consideration
of
us
saying
that
it's
important
and
that
we're
going
to
insist
that
that
the
animals
and
dogs
in
particular
on
tether,
be
attended
to
are
supervised
and
I.
E
Think
that
that,
under
the
circumstances
from
an
equity
standpoint
that
doesn't
eliminate
the
ability
to
dog
tether
at
all,
what
it
says
is
is
that
if
you're
going
to
do
it,
you
need
to
be
responsible
and
you
need
to
be
responsible,
certainly
to
the
well.
You
know
the
health
welfare
hue
maintenance
of
the
animal,
but
also
to
the
community.
At
large,
we
had
a
young,
a
young
lady,
not
too
long
ago,
that
was
attacked
by
a
dog
that
gothis
tether.
This
is
not
uncommon.
E
We've
seen
this
in
other
counties
and
the
injuries
are
horrific
and
we
have
the
opportunity
to
not
address
this
on
the
back
end
right
through
the
extent
of
Ordinances
we
may
have
in
case.
You
know,
a
dog
is
no
longer
on
leash,
but
to
address
this
on
the
front
end
and
make
sure
that
it's
just
prevented
from
happening
all
together.
So
I
I
think
we
can
also
drill
down
on
the
idea
of
a
punishment
as
well
and
what
constitutes
adequate
punishment
from
equity
standpoint,
but
I.
E
Don't
think
that
should
prevent
us
from
making
sure
that
we
do
the
right
thing
and
put
put
the
the
language
in
place
to
prevent
indefinite
unattended
dog
tethering
altogether.
We
can
also
have
the
conversation
too
as
to
whether
we're
talking
about
an
extent.
You
know
a
period
of
time
here.
So
it's
my
understanding
that
there
are
many
jurisdictions
that
impose
three
hour
periods
of
time
where
you
have
to
at
least
supervise
the
animal
every
three
hours.
E
One
of
the
the
things
that
come
to
my
mind
is
the
idea
of
no
parking
right
there
areas
where
we
say
you
know:
you're
not
allowed
to
park
here
over
extended
periods
of
time
right
and
we
still
enforce
that
so
I
think.
Under
these
circumstances,
it
is
enforceable
but
to
the
extent
I
think
we
have
concerns
there.
E
We
can
always
look
at
blocks
of
time
and
say
these
are
the
period
of
time
where
the
the
hazards
presented
to
the
animal
into
the
community
or
greater,
and
if
we
can
do
that
that,
at
the
very
least,
I
think
you
know
we're
moving
in
the
right.
The
right
direction
and
ensuring
that
we're
doing
our
jobs
so
having
all
that
I
would
ask
that
we
move
forward
on
this.
I.
Think
part
of
the
question
here
is
how
we
do
that.
E
I
hope
that
tonight
we
can
give
some
direction
to
our
staff,
whereby
they
can
draft
a
proposed
ordinance
for
us
to
consider
at
a
future
business
meeting,
certainly
a
business
meeting
to
where
we
can
get
input
from
stakeholders
of
the
community
before
we
take
a
final
vote
so
with
the
public
hearing
but
I
think
under
the
circumstances,
we
should
move
forward
given
all
of
the
information
here
that
we
have,
and
in
ask
for
that.
E
B
F
E
So
if
I
may
respond
to
that,
I
I
suggest
we
do
this
like.
We
would
any
other
item
that
we
would
be
voting
on.
We
would
have,
and
the
question
here
is
whether
it
would
come
back
to
us
beforehand
or
it
would
go
straight
to
the
to
the
you
know
the
business
agenda,
but
certainly
we
would
have
a
draft
that
we
could
discuss
and
then
after
public
comment
on
that
draft,
so
a
public
hearing.
This
could
all
happen,
but
you
know
I
think
it's
not
uncommon
for
us
to
do
this
all
at
one
time.
E
B
F
Just
to
follow
up
on
that
matter,
mayor,
so,
are
you
proposing
a
change
for
ban
or
one
of
these
other
options
where
there
is
a
restriction
on
the
hours
or
regulating
the
hours
of
the
day,
because
there
are
three
options:
that's
been
provided
by
the
staff,
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear,
as
as
we
are
going
to
leave,
we
are
giving
clear
instructions
to
our
city
manager.
I
want
to
know.
I'm
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
I'm
supporting
the
motion,
which
one
of
these
options
we're
moving
forward
with.
E
I
I
think
the
the
clear
trend
is
is
a
ban
for
once
again
for
humane
and
public
safety
purposes.
Having
said
that,
I
I
don't
know
if,
if
that's
something
that
that
we
as
a
council
would
support
but
short
of
that,
a
a
time
restriction
that
exists
in
and
the
greater
majority.
Certainly
the
vast
majority
of
our
benchmark
cities
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina,
the
greater
majority
of
cities
throughout
the
United
States,
some
some
time
restriction
within
our
ordinance
now.
E
The
next
question,
of
course,
is
what
type
of
time
restriction
is
that
going
to
be
one-
and
you
know
from
the
standpoint
of
scope,
which
is
like
say
every
three
hours,
or
is
it
going
to
be
one
where
we're
looking
at
a
block
restriction?
Once
again,
a
question
I
think
for
us
as
a
council
to
consider
assuming
we
move
forward.
B
E
Ma'am
I
think
that
would
be
fantastic,
and
maybe
what
we
do
too
is
in
subject
to
to
incite
from
all
of
us
here
council,
but
maybe
we
consider
with
the
time
restriction
whether
or
not
be
a
three-hour
period
or
if
it's
better,
to
have
a
block,
we're
talking,
maybe
like
peak
hours,
so
something
like
say,
9:00
p.m.
to
5:00
or
6:00
a.m.
something
like
that
where
we
can
identify
the
periods
where
you
know
kind
of
the
humane
aspect,
as
well
as
the
public
safety
aspect,
is
heightened.
B
We
have
emotion,
some
restate
your
motion,
direct
staff,
to
provide
draft
a
proposed
ordinance
with
either
first
with
an
option
of
a
ban
or
a
time
restriction
with
a
span
of
time
of
three
hours.
I,
it's
kind
of
like
is
it
cascading
I
just
want
us
to
make
sure,
because
this
manager
is
made
of
recommendation.
So
if
we're
gonna
have
something
on
the
agenda,
so
it's
clear
what's
on
the
agenda
so.
E
E
G
F
F
Complete
ban,
I
struggle
with
that
a
little
bit
even
though
I'm
a
big
believer
in
animal
care
and
protections,
but
we
have
heard
where
there
are
residents
that
will
have
that
will
have
a
financial
impact
as
a
result
of
the
band.
However,
we
all
know
that
there's
something
needs
to
be
done
to
protect
protect
animals,
so
I
would
be
in
favor
of
looking
at
regulating
the
hours
and
I.
Don't
know
what
that
looks
like
whether
it
could
be
three
hours
or
it
could
be
some
sort
of
sliding
scale
but
I.
B
B
B
F
F
F
B
G
B
B
G
B
Excuse
me:
it's
really:
we've
heard
we,
we
listen
to
you
very
carefully,
every
time
that
you
sign
up
for
a
public
forum.
This
is
the
time
I
would
like
for
you
to
listen
to
the
council
members
I
understand
this
is
passionate
for
all
of
you
and
I
really
appreciate
that.
But
courtesy
and
respect
is
also
something
that
we
would
like
to
have
in
this
discussion,
because
I
think
we've
given
that
to
you
and
please
let
us
have
that
from
you
all
right.
I
have
a
motion
from
mr.
Graham.
I
B
Right,
we
have
a
second
to
that.
So
that's
a
substitute
motion,
so
the
first
motion
by
our
rules
would
be
the
debate
on
the
substitute
motion.
Is
that
correct
mr.
Patman?
Mr.
Baker?
All
right?
We
have
a
Moute
we'll
go
ahead
and
have
this
emotion
maker
wish
to
speak
to
it
and
then
we
begin
the
open
discussion.
I
want.
G
To
thank
everybody
for
coming
out
this
afternoon.
I
clearly
understand
the
the
passion
and
the
emotion
you
bring
to
this
particular
issue.
Our
job
as
and
as
a
member
of
the
City
Council,
and
certainly
my
job
as
a
member
of
this
council,
is
to
look
at
the
broader
picture
as
well.
I'm
really
concerned
about
the
unattended
consequences
that
the
ordinance
will
bring
to
our
community,
especially
those
living
in
inner-city
communities
in
which
I
represent
I'm
very
concerned
that
thus
far,
there's
been
no
public
hearing
to
hear
from
the
other
side.
G
K
J
J
Think
I
agree
with
with
much
of
what
mr.
Graham
said:
I
think
there
is
a
way,
but
I
think
there's
a
way
if,
once
we
get
more
information,
when
we
get
more
data
on
what
is
happening
where,
where
this
issue
can
fit
into
some
of
our
stated
council
priority
areas,
I
think
when
we
talk
about
tethered
dogs,
backyards
and
people's
homes
and
where
people
live
in
play,
we're
talking
about
building
better
neighborhoods
when
we're
talking
about
the
effect
that
tethering
and
and
and
chains
can
have
on
the
overall
community
safety.
J
This
is
an
issue
of
community
safety,
as
we
look
at
different
approaches,
as
we
ascribe
to
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
strain
than
families
in
our
city
to
prevent
things
from
happening
in
the
future.
There
is
no
doubt
that
pets
are
a
part
of
families,
family
units
and
family
structures
and
anyway,
if
there
is
an
opportunity
to
work
with
our
community
to
strengthen
families
and
hit
all
those
buckets.
J
I,
don't
think
I
I,
don't
think
we
any
of
the
the
solutions
that
have
that
we
have
up
here
are
going
to
get
the
results
that
I
think
many
in
the
community
want.
If
we
do
not
have
that
type
of
continued
collaboration
and
I,
think
staff
and
our
citizens,
when
working
together,
can
and
will
find
some
some
solutions
that
that
will
give
us
the
success
that
we
want.
B
So
do
I
have
any
other
speakers,
so
mr.
Newton
and
then
massage
mirror
so.
E
I
think
and
responding
to
the
substitute
motion,
I
I
think
we
need
something
with
teeth
here
and
unfortunately,
I
feel
like
this
is
very
well-intentioned
substitute
motion.
You
make
a
very
great
point,
but
you
mentioned
continuing
the
conversation.
I
think
the
motion
would
effectively
end
the
conversation.
We're
not
talking
about
additional
information
to
come
back,
we're
talking
about
a
game
plan
that
would
actually
it
would
codify
absolutely
not
nothing
in
ordinance,
nothing
that'sthat's,
otherwise
enforceable
or
would
prevent
the
issue.
E
That's
been
brought
to
our
attention
at
the
same
time,
I
think
you
know
in
every
instance
that
we
take
of
votes.
We
do
the
best
we
can
to
hear
from
everyone
right,
but
but
we
need
everyone
to
show
up
the
people
who
have
shown
up,
certainly,
you
know,
have
told
us
frankly,
they've
told
us
they
would
like
to
see
a
ban.
I
think
you
know
we're
actually
considering
something
short
of
that,
but
it's
never
stopped
us
before
from
taking
something
to
a
public
hearing
in
a
vote
at
which
point
everyone
can
show
up
right.
E
Both
sides
of
the
issue
can
show
up
and
speak
before.
Any
final
decision
is
made
once
again:
that's
what
we
routinely
do
and
it
sounds
like
we're
taking
it
apart
departure.
You
know
under
the
substitute
motion
here.
If
that's
you
know,
that's
what
it
is
is
agreed
to
I
think
that
that
that
we
can
actually
so
given.
Given
the
substance
of
the
substitute
motion,
given
the
substance
of
the
the
original
motion,
we
can
actually
do
both
and
councilmember.
E
Winston
just
alluded
to
it.
You
know
if
we
are,
if
we're
very
you
know
cautious
about
moving
forward,
because
we
feel
like
the
penalty
would
be
too
severe
or
inequitable,
we
could
still
codify
violations
or
our
intent
into
our
ordinance
and
the
penalty
could
be
one
whereby,
particularly
under
the
first
or
maybe
even
second
instance,
of
a
violation
whereby
there
isn't
any
in
any
monetary
consequence.
E
But
but
we
we
work
with
the
individual,
and
we
do
that
right
to
to
what
to
prevent
the
harm
from
happening
once
again,
with
teeth
in
in
our
ordinances
and
and
thereafter
right.
If
it
continues,
then
you
know
maybe
there's
something
that's
monetarily
involved,
but
but
we
we,
what
we
do
both
is
what
I'm
saying,
and
there
are
agencies
so
to
to
the
councilman's
point.
B
J
Definitely
hear
your
concerns
mr.
Newton,
about
this
not
coming
back,
but
they
which
exactly
why
I
suggest
putting
bundling
it
within
these
priority
areas
that
we
have
ongoing
work
if
we
say,
for
instance,
building
better
neighborhoods.
If
we
can
identify
that
you
know,
we
are
looking
for
ways
to
improve
our
neighborhoods.
So
if
there
are
families
out
there,
that
would
rather
not
tether
their
animals,
but
they
know
that
he
without
that
tether,
while
they're
at
work,
he
would
jump
that
fence.
We
have
a
community
and
that
creates
other
daint
potential
dangers
and
potential
negative
impacts.
J
Perhaps
this
is
not
something
that
we
have
looked
at
in
the
past,
but
this
is
something
that
we
can
collaborate
with.
Neighborhoods
grab
and
collaborate
with
service
providers
to
work
on
fencing
in
homes
like
this
and
by
by-default
improve
the
overall
quality
of
the
neighborhood.
That
falls
into
line.
J
As
we
take
a
more
evidence-based
approach
to
dealing
with
community
safety
issues,
we
are
saying
that
strengthening
families
and
and
and
of
other
other
other
things
that
we
haven't
even
thought
about
yet
perhaps
like
tethering
of
animals
and
dealing
with
animals
in
a
community,
can
affect
the
overall
community
safety.
So
if
we
put
it
in
in
these
buckets
that
we're
already
working
on
and
tell
staff,
we
expect
you
to
consider
this
as
as
we're
as
we're
thinking
about
this.
Overall.
These
are
overall
things
that
are
already
coming
back
to
us.
J
F
You,
madam
mayor
I,
wanted
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
my
colleague
mr.
Graham
had
raised.
I
I
agree
with
with
you
in
terms
of
we've
only
heard
from
one
side
so
far
throughout
this
discussion,
but
I
think
public
hearing
will
give
us
an
opportunity
to
hear
from
other
sides
in
terms
of
the
enforcement
I
would
like
to
hear
from
our
city
manager.
D
I
may
sure:
okay
thanks
so
the
proposal,
the
three
hours
would
be
very
problematic.
We
wouldn't
have
resources
necessarily
to
sit
at
someone's
house
for
three
hours
or
four
hours.
That's
why
we
were
saying
it's
really
not
enforceable
when
we
talk
to
other
people,
because
so,
if
I
go
out,
then
your
dog's
tethered
and
I
wait.
Awhile
I'll
come
back
and
say
we
it's
been
out
there
they're,
like
no
I
brought
it
in
for
three.
D
You
know
so
there's
a
lot
of
problematic
issues
with
trying
I
mean
not
not
saying
it's
too
hard,
but
it's
just
really
legally.
You
can't
hardly
enforce
it
if
it's
a
chunk
of
specific
hours,
whereas
if
you're
not
supposed
to
do
it
between
10
o'clock
and
six
o'clock
a.m.
or
whatever
the
hours
are,
if
I
go
out
there
and
the
dogs
tethered,
then
you're
in
violation
and
it's
we
can
actually
enforce
that
right.
So.
H
F
Understand
that
regulating
three
hours
or
two
hours
could
be
a
challenge
when
it
comes
to
enforcement,
but
maybe
having
specific
ours
would
address.
Mr.
Graham's
concern
around
the
enforcement
and
how
that
could
potentially
be
enforced,
so
I
think
I'm
open
to
that
option
as
well
from
our
3-1-1
Department.
Has
there
been
data
collected
and
how
many
calls
we
get
on
this,
and
can
it
be
shared
with
Council
before
our
next
meeting?
Yes,.
B
F
F
So
I
think
this
information
I
it's
sufficient
enough.
For
me,
the
data
is
sufficient
for
us
to
for
me
to
move
forward.
At
least
we
got
to
do
something
doing.
Nothing
is
no
longer
an
option
clearly
from
the
data.
It
shows
that
there
are
a
number
of
we
are
getting
more
complaints,
especially
cruelty
related.
F
B
C
H
L
Just
wanted
to
say,
I'm
coming
down
with
on
the
side
that
councilmember
Graham,
recommended
and
I
wanted
to
point
out
here
for
one
your
energy
and
passion
about
this
has
definitely
raised
the
profile
of
this
issue
for
us
and
I.
Think
as
we
move
forward,
there
will
be
a
much
greater
awareness
that
this
is
something
for
which
we
are
accountable.
The
concern
I
have
right
now
is
that
if
there
are
a
hundred
of
these
complaints,
there
are
many
many
dog
owners
out
there.
L
It
would
be
interesting,
for
example,
to
see
comparisons
between
the
cities
that
have
tethering
ordinances
and
those
that
don't
as
to
the
incidence
of
dogs
getting
violent,
because
that
was
one
of
the
suggestions
and
and
get
a
better
understanding,
but
I
think
what
the
point
we're
trying
to
make
is.
There
are
actually
two
the
sides
to
this:
it
isn't
as
completely
open
and
shut.
So,
whereas
none
of
us
here
wants
to
see
an
animal
suffer
and
I
think
I
want
to
emphasize
that.
There's
nobody
here,
that's
indifferent
to
the
suffering
of
an
animal.
L
E
We're
able
to
get
that
in
the
the
minutes,
because
I
actually
have
a
speaker
off
there,
but
assuming
if
we
let
not
hope
everybody
heard
me,
but
assuming
we
can
appreciate
that
risk.
Much
like
we
appreciate
other
risk
whereby
enforcement,
isn't,
you
know,
isn't
straightforward
or
easy.
I
I
think
you
know
we
need
to
to
act.
I
would
make
so
I
appreciate
the
the
comments
of
my
colleagues.
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
substitute
motion.
Councilmember
Graham,
but
I
would
make
a
substitute
motion
to
the
substitute
motion.
I.
B
E
Just
to
to
watch
just
to
conclude
quickly,
I
think
nothing
prevents
us
from
instituting
the
mechanism
that
we
clearly
know.
We
should
do
given
the
data
once
again.
331
complaints
only
to
have
resulted
in
any
action
taken
may.
D
I
make
a
clarification
just
like
to
your
point:
yes,
not
a
fine,
but
yes,
we
always
go
out
there
and
educate
them
and
usually
once
they
find
out
how
okay,
you
know,
not
everybody
knows
what's
exactly
required
and
that's
why
we
usually
try
to
educate
people
and
bring
them
into
compliance
versus
finding
them.
So
we
do
actually
take
action,
just
not
fines.
Okay,.
E
B
Want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear,
because
we've
taken
two
charts
and
tried
to
make
sure
that
they
are
related
in
somehow,
but
I
want
to
read
the
words
in
between
the
two
charts
that
say
all
complaints
are
investigated
over
the
three-year
period,
11:11
tethering
warnings
and
two
citations
were
issued.
The
continuous
goal
of
animal
control
is
to
first
seek
compliance
of
ordinance
through
education
and
communication,
which
is
something
we
seek
in
every
effort.
Instead
of
penalizing
people,
we
try
to
say
how
can
we
get
this
on?
B
You
get
this
to
a
place,
that's
actually
you're
being
a
good
dog
owner
when
targeted
education
and
communication
efforts
are
not
successful
than
enforcement
measures.
So
to
me,
I
want
to
compliment
animal
control
for
a
hundred
and
seventy
one
education
opportunities,
all
all,
but
seven
resulted
in
compliance,
and
that
means
that
we
have
really
worked
with
our
community
leaders
and
dog
owners
to
ensure
that
they
understand
what's
important,
which
is
the
welfare
and
safety
of
the
animals.
B
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we,
when
we
look
at
those
two
charts
that
we
connected
in
a
way
that
is
a
result
of
what
you
folks
do
and
I
want
to
say.
Thank
you
for
what
you
do
do
so.
The
next
thing
we
have
a
motion,
a
substitute
motion,
all
in
favor
of
the
substitute
motion.
Please
raise
your
hand
all
opposed
to
the
substitute
motion.
Please
raise
your
hand.
The
motion
carries
thanks
very
much.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
circus
animal
regulations
who's
presenting
on
that
Murray.
D
Thank
You
mayor
and
council
and
again
as
a
city
manager,
made
reference
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
This
is
another
topic
that
was
brought
forward
in
a
public
forum,
and
you
discussed
back
in
year
to
november
strategy
session
and
received
a
report
January
3rd
and
tonight
we'd
like
to
go
over
some
of
that
information
for
you
and
discuss,
give
you
discussion
points
for
next
steps,
and
first
at
November
you
had
some
conversation
around
what
may
qualify
as
exotic
animals
and
currently
again,
this
is
in
our
city
code
chapter
three
animals.
D
We
currently
have
a
specific
definition
in
place.
Exotic
animals
are
typically
ones
that
you
would
find
confined
in
a
zoo
in
the
wilderness
that
aren't
native
to
North
America.
That
could
be
seen
to
cause
fear
of
bodily
harm
or
significant
damage
to
property.
It's
our
definition
and
currently
specifically
calls
out
that
these
do
not
that
wild
exotic
do
not
include
household
pets,
farm
animals,
fish
contained
in
aquariums,
insects
and
birds.
D
So
we
do
have
a
specific
definition
already
in
place
to
cover
that
and
as
far
as
current
regulations
in
place,
the
most
predominant
one
is
at
the
federal
level
through
the
Animal
Welfare
Act
and
that's
governed
by
the
United
States
Department
of
Agriculture,
and
they
and
if
you
reference
in
your
this-
is
the
circus
report
packet.
If
you
look
at
page
11,
it
lists
their
standards
and
that's
the
minimum
standards
they
say,
but
we
pulled
out
a
couple
on
the
slide.
Just
specific
to
some
of
the
concerns
we've
been
discussing.
D
One
handling
of
all
animals
should
not
cause
harm
or
stress.
Physical
beasts
shall
not
be
used
to
work.
The
animal,
our
train,
the
animal
or
otherwise
hand
handle
the
animal
and
again
that's
just
a
few
of
the
provisions.
But
if
you
reference
page
11
eerie,
the
circus
report
section
has
more
full
details
and
then,
at
the
state
level
the
state
has
provisions
in
place
to
prevent
animal
cruelty.
They
define
cruelty.
D
This
is
the
state
defines
cruelty
as
every
act,
omission
or
neglect
were
about
unjustifiable
physical
pain,
suffering
or
death
is
caused,
are
permitted
in
the
state.
Further
grants
the
authority
to
cities
to
put
further
regulations
in
place
to
further
prevent
inhumane
treatment
of
animals.
It
also
grants
the
city
authority
to
regulate
dangerous
animals.
D
Now,
the
city
level,
as
we
kind
of
discussed
in
the
tethering,
we
have
certain
provisions
overall
for
animal
abuse
to
prevent
animal
abuse
within
our
existing
ordinance,
but
specific
tick,
wild
and
exotic
animals.
We
have
the
definition.
We
have
specific
restraint
requirements
in
our
ordinance
for
wild
exotic
animals
and
we
have
provisions
on
who
can
actually
keep
and
maintain
these
animals,
but
other
than
that,
we
don't
currently
have
any
specific
provisions
in
place
specific
to
the
wild
and
exotic
animals
and.
D
So
when
we
looked
at
our
peer
cities
and
to
see
what
kind
of
regulations
they
had
in
place
for
circus
animal
performances,
13
didn't
have
any
four
had
some
regulations
in
place
and
three
put
bans
on
wild
animal
performances,
wild
or
exotic
animal
performances.
And
then
we
looked
at
some
of
our
North
Carolina
cities.
One
had
no
provisions,
two
had
regulations
in
place
and
to
actually
prove
had
a
ban
on
them.
D
And
the
recommendation,
based
on
the
fact
that
this
is
after
our
review,
we
don't
really
as
a
city,
have
a
big
financial
impact
or
administrative
burden.
It's
more
so
a
policy
decision
for
us
to
get
direction
from
Council
on
and
some
options
for.
Your
consideration
continue
with
protections,
as
provided
with
the
Animal
Welfare
Act.
Consider
provision
banning
the
use
of
bull
hooks,
consider
provision
banning
the
use
of
wild
and
exotic
animals
and
circuses.
I
B
Have
a
motion
in
a
second
so
I'm
going
to
restate
that
that,
on
this
on
the
council
agenda,
going
a
future
council
agenda
that
the
manager
would
have
a
recommendation
that
working
under
current
provisions,
we
would
recommend
or
the
council
would
like
a
or
an
ordinance
develop.
That
would
ban
the
use
of
bull
hooks.
So
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion
of
the
motion.
Would
maker
motion
maker
like
to
make
a
statement
before
we
begin
the
open
discussion,
gravity.
E
I
wanted
to
start
by
saying
that
that
that
motion
is
something
that
it's
my
understanding
would
place
this
inconsistency
or
or
in
line
with
a
majority
of
jurisdictions,
particularly
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina
and
then
also
across
the
United
States.
My
concern
here
and
certainly
I
think
it's
something
to
that.
That
addresses
the
concerns
and
the
issues
that
we've
heard
from
stakeholders,
particularly
as
they
pertain
to
humane
us
and
I.
Think
we
also
know,
too,
is
something:
that's
not
going
to
affect
right.
E
The
ability
of
circuses
to
exist
or
zoos
or
any
sort
of
other
types
of
entertainment
that
we
might
otherwise
be
interested
in,
like
say,
dog,
shows.
Having
said
that,
my
concern
is
whether
or
not
it
incorporates
or
is
extensive
enough
to
incorporate
the
wide
range
of
type
of
wide-ranging
instrument,
types
of
instrumentalities
used
for
inhumane
purposes
such
as
electric
shock
treatments
and
other,
so
simply
shovels
and
rakes
right
poking
at
at
animals
and
creating
the
types
of
harms
that
we
don't
want
to
prevent
the
aggressiveness
and
in
the
potential
for
for
health
and
safety
risk.
M
Just
that
supportive
of
banning
bullhooks
I
think
expanding
it
could
be
merited
too
I.
Just
would
ask
our
legal
department
and
Riaan
whoever
else.
If
that's
something
that
and
I
know.
Mr.
new
gave
a
couple
of
examples,
but
I
think
if
we
could
see
if
there's
other
City,
if
there
are
other
cities
that
have
language,
that
it's
expanding
the
use
of
certain
instruments
beyond
bullhooks
that
we
could
get
that.
Those
examples
are
those
that
explicit
list
of
what
those
things
are
in
advance
of
the
public
hearing
that
would
be
held
before
the
vote.
M
B
That's
an
excellent
point
because
the
state
regulation
says
the
terms.
Cruelty
and
cruel
treatment
include
every
act,
omission
or
neglect
whereby
unjustifiable
physical
pain
suffering
or
death
is
caused
or
permit
it.
So
it
seems
to
me,
like
electric
shock,
would
fall
under
state
regulations,
but
I
don't
know
that,
and
so
the
question
would
be
to
find
out
what
the
state
defines
is
those
things
because
I
don't
know
if
there
are
parameters
already
in
place
there
all
right.
So
we
have
any
further
discussion
of
the
motion,
so
it
would
be
to
play.
B
E
M
M
At
a
future
business
meeting
for
a
vote
and
a
discussion
and
a
public
hearing,
so
what
if
we
were
to
say
I
mean
we're
essentially
asking
staff
to
bring
back
language.
So
what?
If
the
language
was
we're
asking
them
to
bring
back
a
provision
banning
the
use
of
harmful
instruments,
including,
but
not
limited
to
bullhooks?
They
can
come
back
with
the
exact
language
of
what
that
is
and
isn't,
or
what's
covered
by
the
state
laws
and
what's
not,
and
then
we
leave
it
at
that
and
let
them
come
back
with
more
information
and.
B
B
L
B
L
L
B
E
B
Right,
so
that
is
the
substitute
motion,
any
other
discussion.
Okay,
all
in
favor
of
the
substitute
motion
raise
your
hand,
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six.
Okay.
We
have
six
to
do
that
February
24th
on
the
agenda.
We
will
have
the
circus
animal
regulation
and
we'll
get
that
information
out
in
advance
so
that
we
know
what
we're
talking
about.
N
Voted
for
it,
but
if
we
could
also
get
staff
to
bring
back,
I
have
heard
anecdotally
that
when
you
ban
things
like
the
bull
hook
it
in
essence,
what
you're
doing
is
banning
the
ability
for
the
them
to
be
here
so
I,
don't
know
if
that's
true
or
not,
but
the
whole
point
is
if
that
is
true,
one
I'd
like
to
know
because
it
may
just
be
we're
banning
circuses
and
I,
don't
think
we
should
do
so
via
the
bull
hook
and
not
actually
do
it.
If
that's
what
our
intent
is,
we've.
B
Got
a
great
team
of
people
here
listening
to
this
tonight
from
animal
control,
I
think
they'll
be
able
to
tell
us
what
the
result
and
impact
was
of
bull
hooks
are
and
for
circus
animals
and
in
their
next
report,
miss
Harris.
Thank
you,
ambulance
work.
Thank
you
very
much
all
right.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
City
Clerk's,
which
I'm
sorry
will
give
you
a
couple
of
minutes
to
get
out
of
and
out
so
you
can
go
home,
there's
no
Monday
Night
Football
guys.
We
saw
that
last
night.
J
M
B
B
Today
we
were
focused
a
lot
on
this
agenda
and
my
plan
was
to
have
working
with
Julie
to
have
the
Mayor
Pro
Tem
for
to
have
the
assignment
of
the
committee's
to
the
council
committees,
the
boards
and
commissions
to
the
council
committees.
It's
just
I,
don't
want
to
do
something
in
haste:
I
want
to
do
it
and
so
we're
not
having
to
do
it
redo
it
so
not
getting
to
it.
Today.
We
will
get
it
to
you
this
week.
B
O
You,
mayor
and
council
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
you
with
a
brief
update
on
boards
and
commissions
tonight,
I
just
want
to
briefly
touch
on
these
three
items.
Some
new
changes
that
are
that
have
been
implemented
for
boards
and
commissions
I
want
to
give
an
overview
of
a
brief
overview
of
the
application
and
nomination
process,
particularly
in
light
of
the
fact
that
we
have
three
freshmen
council
members,
and
this
will
be
coming
up
next
feb
9,
it's
February
next
month
next
week.
O
Actually
this
presentation
was
prepared
in
January,
so
it
says:
I
look
ahead
to
February,
but
it's
actually
a
look
ahead
to
next
week.
Next
week's
council
meeting
at
your
retreat,
you
received
the
first
compilation
of
the
annual
reports,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that's
implemented.
New
in
the
22
in
2020
is
the
use
of
the
annual
report,
template
and
so
all
of
the
boards
and
commissions
were
asked
to
complete
this
template
and
so
that
it
would
allow
Council
to
get
a
snapshot
of
just
a
picture
view.
O
One
page
or
two
of
what
the
various
boards
and
commissions
were
doing
and
the
use
of
the
templates
was
successful
in
that
85
percent
of
all
the
boards
and
commissions
submitted
this
and
use
this
template.
Another
thing
that
will
be
new
for
you
this
year
will
be
the
use
of
demographic
information
that
will
be
provided
to
you.
O
When
you
receive
your
nomination
ballots,
you
will
be
able
to
see
the
breakdown
of
the
actual
each
individual
board
and
it
will
show
the
ethnicity
of
each
board
and
also
one
other
thing
that
is,
you
will
see
this
year.
Is
the
members
who
did
not
meet
attendance
requirements
for
2019
will
be
prohibited
from
participating
in
or
serving
on
additional
boards
and
commissions
over
the
next
12
months.
So
the.
O
O
B
We,
it
is
still
in
the
statutes,
we're
we
got
it
through
the
Senate
and
we're
waiting
on
action
by
the
house.
I,
don't
know
if
we'll
get
it
in
the
short
session
or
not,
but
we
have
requested
we've
gotten
the
Senate
approval
and
it
did
get
moved
over
to
the
house
and
we're
waiting
to
see
if
they
will
act
in
the
short
session.
O
So,
coming
up
at
your
meeting
in
next
week
will
be
nominations,
and
so
the
process
is
that
the
vacancy
announcement
has
been
advertised
for
the
last.
It
was
advertised
for
weeks
applications
from
anyone
that
was
interested
in
being
appointed
or
being
reappointed.
Those
applications
were
due
on
January
the
26th.
O
We
have
gone
through
the
process
of
screening
those
applications
and
you
will
receive
those
that
are
qualified
based
on
staff
review
that
are
qualified
to
be
considered
for
those
vacancies
and
also
this
template,
which
you
have
seen,
and
we
used
in
2019
as
a
part
of
the
manager's
recommendation
for
improvements
to
this
process.
This
template
is
being
used
by
many
of
the
boards
to
make
so
that
the
chairpersons
can
make
recommendations
on
persons.
O
O
However,
I
will
point
out
if
an
individual
is
appointed
to
a
partial
term
if
they
are
appointed
to
fill
a
vacancy
created
by
someone's
resignation
or
because
someone
failed
attendance,
they
can
continue
to
fill
that
partial
term
and
then
two
terms
of
their
very
own.
So
it's
possible
that
they
may
serve
a
little
more
than
then
six
years
if
they're
at
if
they
meet
attendance,
and
certain
of
your
boards
require
candidates
to
have
background
checks
to
also
take
oaths
and
or
submit
statements
of
economic
interest.
O
So,
at
the
meeting
on
February
10th
the
nominate,
you
will
get
your
ballots
on
Thursday
when
you're
in
your
packets
and
then
at
the
dinner
meeting
prior
to
not
enter
meeting
the
action
review
meeting.
You
would
be
asked
to
submit
your
ballot
to
the
clerk
and
we
will
tally
those
during
the
remainder
of
the
meeting.
So
when
we
go
to
the
chamber,
that's
where
the
nominations
will
actually
either.
O
If
someone
has
received
more
than
six
nominations,
you
can
appoint
them
by
acclamation
and
it
requires
a
motion.
A
second
and
a
vote
by
council,
and
if
there
are
two
nominations
for
any
one
person
they
are,
they
will
be
on
the
ballot
for
appointments
at
the
subsequent
meeting.
We
do
not
read
out
the
names
of
nominees
at
the
meeting,
so
you
will
get
that
information
from
the
clerk's
office
and
an
email
on
Tuesday
morning
you'll
receive
an
email
that
lists
all
of
the
nominees
that
were
not
appointed
by
acclamation.
The
previous
night.
O
And
so
that
is
basically
the
process
in
a
nutshell
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
also
I
think
provided
to
you
in
the
yellow
folder,
especially
for
our
newbies,
are
the
the
copy
of
the
ballot.
So
you
know
what
you
what
you
will
get
in
your
packet
next
week
and
as
always,
we're
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
can
give
me
a
call
or
or
email
me
and
I'll,
be
happy
to
to
walk
you
through
the
process
or
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
E
With
his
cancer
treatments-
and
there
wasn't
any
sort
of
exception-
maybe
in
place
to
to
give
four
to
excuse-
that-
is
that
accurate
or
do
we
have
any
any
circumstances
where
those
types
of
exceptions
exist?
Mr.
O
Newton,
we
don't
have
any
rule
law
that
allows
staff
to
make
exceptions
to
attendance,
but
what
has
happened
previously
in
in
several
instances
where
persons
have
had
illness-
or
you
know
extenuating
circumstances?
They
just
need
to
let
the
staff
advisor
know,
preferably
in
writing,
and
we
convey
that
information
either
to
the
City
Council
or
to
the
mayor
or
whoever
is
the
appointing
entity,
and
there
have
been
exceptions
made
under
such
circumstances
and
what
we
tell
people
is
if
they
have
a
work
conflict,
that's
not
an
extenuating
circumstance
but
illness.
O
B
Any
other
questions
I
have
a
couple
of
things
that
I'd
like
to
ask
the
council
to
think
about.
There
are
a
few
boards
that
are
really
focused
on
personnel
related
issues,
the
three
that
I
think
about
our
kind
of
quasi
judicial
boards.
Perhaps
citizens
review
board
the
Civil
Service
Board
community
relations
board
and
right
now
we
advertised
every
quarter
for
those
vacancies
and
I
wanted
to
just
bring
up
on
the
citizens
review
board.
You
have
to
go
to
the
citizens
Academy
before
you
can
even
be
considered
for
that
board.
B
I,
don't
know
the
syncing
between
citizen
Academy
and
creating
the
quarterly
announcement.
So
I
I
was
wondering
if
this,
if
you
could
give
us
some
ideas
about
how
that
works.
Like
other,
are
we
getting
enough
applications
so
that
we
have
applications
of
a
pool
of
people
consistently
available
for
that
board?
B
So
what
I'm
really
saying
is
how
do
we
manage
the
calendaring,
so
the
citizens
Academy,
which
is
a
very
intense
and
very
long
process
and
I-
think
they've
done
some
things
to
make
it
more
webinar
based
things
like
that,
but
not
when
you
were
there,
that's
true,
but
you're.
Just
an
old
graduate
right,
so
if
we
can
mayor.
O
I
have
an
answer
to
that.
We
actually
maintain
a
database
of
all
of
the
graduates
as
the
class
graduates.
Whoever
is
administering
that
program
sends
us
a
list
of
those
persons
that
complete
the
Academy
that
have
met
all
of
the
requirements.
So
we
have
a
list
of
about.
Currently
it
might
be
about
300
names
of
people
that
have
completed
the
Academy.
It
might
be
a
little
more
than
that,
but
have
that
have
completed
the
Academy
since
it
began.
O
O
P
B
Think
that
we
need
to
figure
something
out
there
I
think
that
to
be
eligible
to
be
on
that
list,
that
we
are
the
app
your
application
to
come
in.
You
have
to
renew
it,
but
those
those
people
are
very
valuable
to
us
to
create
a
diverse
pool
of
applicants.
So
I
wonder
if
there
might
be
some
exception
for
if
you've
been
the
citizens
Academy
and
you
apply
your
you
stay
on
the
list.
24
months.
I
just
really
feel
like
we
get
more
people
on
board
through
that
process.
B
They've
really
invested
and
12
months
may
not
be
a
sufficient
amount
of
time
to
take
advantage
of
that
talent
pool
that
we
would
have
so
I'm.
Not
asking
I
just
like
to
understand
it
a
little
bit
more
because
when
I've
seen
the
list
of
eligible
candidates,
they
don't
usually
number
300,
and
so
it's
a
certain
pool
out
of
the
300
willing
to
apply,
and
if
they
don't
apply
in
12
months,
then
we
don't
get
the
benefit
and
I
wonder
if
we
should
look
at
it.
B
L
L
So
it's
already
a
highly
selected
process,
but
the
other
thing
I
would
just
comment
on
is
if
we
did
keep
those
if,
over
a
longer
term,
I
think
we
would
need
to
at
least
communicate
with
the
applicant
and
get
them
to
reaffirm
their
desire
to
be
in
the
pool
for
a
year
because
they
could
have
moved
away.
You
know
we
don't
know,
so
it
could
be
simplified
thing
where
we
just
say
to
them.
L
B
M
And
I
might
have
heard
what
misheard,
what
you
said,
but
they
don't
have
to
apply
within
12
months,
but
I
mean
once
I
think
Miss
Watlington
has
been
through
the
citizens
Academy
as
well.
We
both
have
that's
good
in
perpetuity
as
your
prerequisite
for
being
on
that
board
and
then
it's
just
a
matter
of
the
applications
are
good
for
12
months.
So
two
Driggs
this
point.
M
Would
you
want
to
renew
it,
and
if
so,
would
you
like
to
make
any
changes
to
the
boards
you're
interested
in
or
any
other
pre
records
that
you
might
have
met
in
that
timeframe,
to
make
it
easier
for
them
and
to
prompt
them
to
even
realize
that
their
application
is
has
gone
dormant,
but
the
bar
is
fairly
low
for
someone
to
re-up.
If
they
know
they
need
to,
if.
B
Yes,
and
if
in
the
busy
world
of
life
today,
I
just
wondered
if
we
could
kind
of
make
sure
our
applicant
pool
remains
diverse
and
full
and
I'm,
not
those
are
just
ideas.
I
really
like
to
ask
the
citizens
review
board
to
give
you
some
ideas
about
what
makes
their
membership
work
best.
So
this
Watlington
so.
Q
Two
things
are
the
first
one
is
in
regards
to
the
citizens.
Academy
I
know
that
it's
requirement
for
the
citizens
review
board,
but
for
the
Civil
Service
Board
I
notice
that
it's
not
so
I
was
just
curious
as
to
why
that
is
because,
for
all
the
reasons
that
you
just
named
I
think
it's
important
that
we
look
to
that
pool
of
folks
that
have
graduated
from
citizens
Academy
as
we
think
about
hiring
and
performance
management.
So
there's
that
piece
and
then
the
second
piece
is,
as
you
think,
about
CLA
Civic,
Leadership
Academy,
yeah
yeah.
Q
My
question
because
I
know
that
part
of
the
draw
in
the
program
is
that
the
thought
is
that
coming
out
of
it,
then
that
you
would
be
sitting
on
a
board
or
something
having
made
that
investment
into
the
community
to
understand
how
things
work
so
I'm
just
curious.
How
do
we
make
that
linkage
as
well?
And
do
you
go?
Do
you
already
get
a
list
of
the
graduates?
Well.
O
Lacy
I,
don't
remember
his
name
at
the
moment,
but
I
usually
try
to
go
to
the
class
and
and
walk
them
through
process
of
applying
answer
the
questions
about
boards
and
attendance
and
meetings
and
anything
that
they
have
to
ask
about
boards
and
commissions,
usually
one
of
the
last
things
they
do
on
the
last
night
of
their
class,
so
that
that
is
fresh
in
their
minds.
And
many
of
our
recent
applications
are
from
persons
that
have
completed
CLA.
But
they
have
an
opportunity
to
note
that,
on
the
application
that
they
have
completed,
it.
B
On
the
difference
between
the
Civil
Service
Board
and
the
citizens,
Review
Board
I've
asked
the
attorney
to
give
you
that
information
one's
like
really
old
I
mean
it's
been
around
for
a
long
time
and
one's
fairly
new
with
new
things.
So,
but
if
you'll
describe
the
difference
and
get
that
to
everyone,
that
would
be
helpful.
Okay,
anything
else
on
me.
O
I
just
wanted
to
make
one
other
clarification.
You
were
speaking
about
the
quarterly
advertisement
for
all
of
the
boards.
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
implemented
is
the
announcement
that
was
posted
and
that
you
were
given
list
all
of
the
upcoming
vacancies
for
the
year,
so
you'll
be
able
to
see
what
vacancies
there
are
throughout
the
rest
of
remainder
of
2020
on
that
list.
Mr.
B
J
When
we
do
finally
get
these
of
boards
and
commissions
I'm
aligned
with
committees,
do
you
envision
that
need
on
committees
will
be
able
to
work
with
the
clerk's
office
work
with
those
on
those
specific
boards
and
committees
to
I,
don't
know
come
up
with
paradigms
that
might
reach
the
goals
the
best.
If
we
run
into
some
of
these
issues
that
have
been
pointed
out
around
retaining
talent,
writing
continuity.
J
B
Understanding
is
that
each
board
has
to
submit
an
annual
report.
Those
annual
reports
would
go
to
the
committee,
the
council
committee
and
there
be
an
opportunity
for
a
discussion
there
and
I
think
that
we
don't
have
right
now
any
boundary
for
that.
So
I
think
that
we,
let's
try
and
see
what
happens,
and
you
know
if
it
gets
to
be
a
burdensome
process
to
either
group.
Then
that's
a
consideration,
but
if
it
turns
out
to
be
very
productive,
then
we
can
build
on
it.
Thank.
E
B
Okay,
thank
you,
miss
Kelly,
all
right.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
an
update
on
the
citizens.
Review
Board
bylaws
and
mr.
Baker
is
going
to
help
us
understand
what
we
have
to
what
we've
been
asked
to
think
about
and
then
decide
which
agenda
we
would
go
on
next
at
our
next
council
meeting,
which
is
what
the
night
yeah
10th
sorry
I
keep
getting
losing
a
day.
Okay,
mr.
Baker
thank.
K
And
specifically,
the
issue
is
that
board
members
charged
with
a
felony
class
may
one
misdemeanor,
a
class
or
class
2
misdemeanor
during
a
term
of
office
shall
be
automatically
suspended
until
a
disposition
of
the
charge
and
a
quorum
shall
be
established
from
the
remaining
membership.
That
is
in
the
ordinance
that
created
part
of
the
ordinance
that
created
your
citizen
review
board.
But
there
is
not
clarity
as
to
whether
that
suspension,
preventing
someone
from
attending
a
board
meeting
should
count
on
their
absences
for
purposes
of
attendance.
K
So
if
you've
got
a
felony
and
we
actually
have
a
live
situation
here,
where
someone
is
not
allowed
to
attend
any
of
the
meetings
because
of
the
felony
suspension
rule
for
want
of
a
better
and
whether
or
not
the
the
attendance
policy
should
be
told
during
this
process
or
whether
it
should
be
applied
during
the
process,
the
specific
request
of
me
is
is
to
apply
the
attendance
policy
to
the
individual,
even
if
they're
suspended
and
and
my
recommendation
would
be
well.
First
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
is
where
counsel
wanted
to
go
with.
K
In
that
regard
and
I.
Think
if
that's
the
case,
then
there
should
be
some
clarity
in
that
process,
rather
than
just
make
the
assumption.
We
should
just
go
ahead
and
bridge
that
gap,
which
would
essentially
have
me
bring
back
to
you
at
the
appropriate
time,
but
I've
already
essentially
got
a
written
out.
K
That's
the
code
that
I
mentioned
will
be
considered
absent
from
the
meeting
for
purposes
of
applying
the
city
of
Charlotte's
attendance
policy
for
city
board
members,
as
set
forth
in
resolution
book,
49,
page
327,
that
that
includes
the
three
consecutive
meetings
policy,
so
it
would
clearly
be
applicable
and
when
you
have
missed
police
Kirkland
if
I'm
wrong.
Madam
clerk,
when
you
have
missed
three
consecutive
meetings,
you
are
automatically
removed
from
from
the
board
and.
B
May
be
reappointed
at
the
discretion
of
the
council
for
any
board.
I.
Think
that's.
The
question
is
something
that
mr.
Newton
asked:
if
you
have
cancer-
and
you
can't
make
it,
then
you
have
the
same
attendance
requirements
and
then
you're
eligible
for
reappointment
fruit.
All
right
I
have
any
questions.
I
have,
let's
see
mr.
Bahari
just.
N
Clarification
was
is
in
this
scenario,
is
it
a?
Is
it
a
felony
charge
or
a
felony
conviction,
felony
charge,
and
so
it's
so
I'm
I
don't
know
what's
route
you're
going
with
it,
but
if
it
becomes
a
felony
conviction,
I'm
assuming,
given
that
role
that
they
are
no
longer
able
to
hold
that
position.
That's
that's.
K
N
K
Like
I'm,
sorry,
it's
the
exact
opposite
actually
so
right.
What
we're
trying
to
what
I've
been
asked
to
do
is
to
bring
forth.
This
is
from
the
board
itself,
a
recommendation
that
if
you
are
suspended
from
the
board,
because
you
have
been
charged
with
a
felony
and
that
suspension
prevents
you
from
coming
from
making
three
consecutive
meetings,
then
you
are
automatically
removed
from
the
board
due
to
the
attendance
policy,
not
the
felony
suspension
rule
that
makes
sense.
I
lost
you
there
at
the
end,
did
not
I.
N
B
I
think
it's
being
consistent
with
all
of
our
boards.
If
you
miss
and
it's
mr.
Newton
said
you
can,
if
you
have
a
real
issue
that
you
cannot
attend,
then
the
attendance
policy
generally
will
applies,
but
that
means
after
you
come
back.
You
can
be
reappointed.
So
I
have
assumed
that
what
mr.
Baker
is
saying
is
that
if
you're
found
not
guilty
of
something,
then
you
can
come
back
and
be
reappointed.
That.
K
So
you
are
automatically
put
on
suspension
by
the
body
yeah
through
the
ordinance
that
you
have
it's
the
ordinance
that
that
automatically
suspends
you.
So
if
you're
charged
with
a
felony
tomorrow,
you
are
automatically
suspended
from
the
board
and
then
the
issue
has
been
that
in
the
pendency
of
dealing
with
those
charges.
You
then
miss
three
meetings
because
you're
not
allowed
to
attend,
because
the
ordinance
is
suspended
from
the
board,
whether
the
the
the
attendance
policy
should
apply
all.
M
But
if
there's
a
situation
where
somebody
is
not
guilty
found
not
guilty,
then
do
we
want
to
leave
it
up
to
the
discretion
of
the
council.
Whether
or
not
three
approve
or
do
we
want
to
say
they
taught
Ematic
lis
fill
the
next
vacancy
on
that
board.
No
I
could
I
could
probably
live
with
either,
but
just
as
a
possible
slight
alternative.
All.
L
Seems
to
me
that
you're
innocent
until
proven
guilty
and
if
you're
prohibited
from
attending
meetings
by
our
policy
I,
don't
see
how
that
counts
as
an
absence
so
I.
You
know,
I
have
trouble
with
the
logic
here.
I
think.
Maybe
we
need
a
special
provision
for
people
who
are
accused
of
felonies
but
kind
of
this
mechanism
through
which
their
failure
to
attend
meetings,
because
they
weren't
allowed
to
causes
them
to
be
excluded,
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
so
I
would
rather
see
us
do
something
that
says
specifically.
L
If
you
have
a
pending
felony
charge,
you
may
not
attend
meetings,
but
that
that
absence
doesn't
count.
I
just
think.
That
makes
a
lot
more
sense,
because
if
you're
subsequently
found
not
guilty,
then
you
know
you're
innocent
and
why
there
should
be
any
penalty
in
terms
of
attendance,
because
an
erroneous
or
an
unsustainable
charge
was
brought
against.
You
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
so.
K
Just
to
clarify,
that's
essentially
the
position
that
we're
taking
right
now
we,
the
city
that
has
been
my
interpretation
of
it-
that
if
you
wanted
the
suspension
to
to
somehow
you
know,
be
trumped
by
the
the
absentee
or
the
attendance
policy,
then
you
should
have
said
that
in
your
in
your
ordinance,
which
is
what
you
didn't
do
and
so
they're
asking
to
take
the
further
step.
But
that
has
been
our
interpretation
right
now.
Is
that
the
suspension
continues
on,
but
that
those
absences
aren't
aren't
mounting
against
this
individual,
because.
O
H
B
This
was
this
ordinance
was
written
by
a
couple
of
lawyers
on
the
council.
Tim
I
can't
Tim
sellers
wrote
this
and
it
was
in
part.
This
issue
was
raised
because
it
was
reviewing
police
matters
and
you're
under
investigation,
and
that's
why
the
whole
thing
came
up,
but
the
the
issue
didn't
come
up
that
you
shouldn't
be
able
to
serve
the
issue
was
how
do
you
get
the
work
done
if
everybody
can't
participate
and
obviously
it's
causing?
This
came
from
the
board
because
they
would
see
it
as
a
need
to
get
the
work
done.
B
J
J
The
Marius
now
and
in
terms
of
removal
is
it
the
same?
Do
we
are
we
able
to
remove
members
from
boards?
That
is
counsel
specifically.
Are
we
by
a
vote?
Are
we
able
to
of
people
that
we
have
appointed
from
those
boards
and
commissions.
K
J
B
Achievement
was
that
we
have
a
request
from
aborting
a
board
that
we
have
under
the
rules
that
they
have
written
into
our
ordinances,
and
they
have
requested
that
we
clarify
the
rule
and
that's
going
to
be
on
the
agenda
at
a
future
meeting
and
I.
Don't
know
whether
it's
the
next
one
or
the
twenty
it's
either
the
tenth
or
the
24th.
So.
J
B
Or
suspend
I
think
mr.
Baker,
you
need
to
give
us
some
history
about
whether
this
ordinance
had
state
approval
or
just
ours.
There's
there
might
be
more
processed
than
just
what
we
can
do
so
give
us
some
background
on
it,
because
this
was
very
controversial
when
it
was
done,
and
there
was
some
reasons
for
it.
Maybe
some
information
about
it
well,
who
has
to
approve
it
and
how
it
has
to
be
done.
So
I
think
that
if
you
can
get
that
information
out,
then
we
have
I
think
an
obligation
to
that
board
to
respond.
B
B
K
B
M
Just
that
I
think
mr.
Winston
could
be
onto
something
that
we
could
make
the
decision.
I.
Think
in
this
instance
we
would
I
would
assume
maybe
end
up
it
with
the
conclusion
that
we
should
remove
the
person
from
the
board,
but
I
would
wondered
too
if
this
is
being
back
brought
back
with
more
information.
One
should
the
felony
rule
apply
to
the
other
board
that
is
involved
with
cm
PD
and
two.
M
If
we
were
to
decide
we're
going
to
remove
this
person,
there
would
have
to
be
a
presentation
from
staff
as
to
the
circumstances
of
their
arrest
and
charging,
and
would
that
be
considered
something
that
we
would
do
as
a
personnel
matter
in
closed
session.
Or
would
we
just
be
airing
our
citizen
volunteers,
laundry
and
open
session
to
decide
whether
or
not
they
should
be
removed?
I.
K
Think
my
review
of
the
ordinance
is
much
simpler
than
that
it
be
simply,
were
you
charged
with
a
felony?
That's
the
triggering
mechanism
here
is
that
you
were
charged
with
a
felony
which
this
individual
was.
Then
the
circumstances
I
haven't
gotten
into,
because
the
ordinance
just
makes
clear
that
if
you're
charged
with
a
felony,
you
are
automatically
suspended,
I
mean.
M
B
C
You
mayor
and
members
of
council
I
tend
to
be
fast
with
this.
It's
really
coming
back
to
the
council,
lessons
learned
from
the
2018
annual
strategy
meeting
versus
the
2019
we're
in
the
2018
annual
strategy
meeting.
We
had
a
series
of
short,
medium
and
long
term
items
to
address,
and
so
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
right
out
of
the
gate,
give
you
information
related
to
where
we
end
it
with
the
the
annual
strategy
meeting.
C
If
we
go
back
in
time,
you
may
remember
I
believe
January
of
2018
when
there
were
a
number
of
questions
that
council
had
I,
think
we
called
it
the
27
questions,
a
staff
went
back
talked
with
each
one
of
you
to
make
sure
that
we
understood
what
is
the
question
and
we
came
back
with
an
issue
background
in
next
steps
so
because
we
really
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
do
a
closure
at
the
annual
strategy
meeting.
This
is
close
to
it.
C
Okay,
and
this
is
just
step
one
so
of
the
85
items,
we've
consolidated
them
into
57
items
and,
as
you
can
see,
some
of
these
are
just
one
word
like
Brook
Hill,
so
your
council
you're
a
cm.
That's
your
liaison
will
talk
to
you
because
each
one
of
you
put
an
initial
by
these
stickies
and
ask
you:
what
did
you
mean
by
that
and
what
we
really
believe
is
when
it's
all
said
and
done,
we
really
won't
have
57
items.
C
Can
we
go
back
one?
The
the
other
thing
that's
important
is
much
like
affordable
housing
back
in
2018,
the
council
took
a
deep
dive
into
mobility,
accessibility
and
connectivity,
and
there
were
14
items
that
were
short-term
10
items.
Medium-Term
and
7
items
in
a
long
term-
and
you
have
those
also
as
a
handout
I-
will
tell
you
that
we
didn't
go
with
easy
to
do
hard
to
do
because
I
think
that
was
part
of
a
little
bit
of
the
conflict
during
the
annual
strategy
meeting.
But
the
key
is
that
they're
all
being
reviewed.
C
So
if
we
go
to
the
to
the
next,
what
we
plan
to
do
at
this
march
strategy
session
is
to
provide
you
with
white
papers
on
each
one
of
these
items.
After
speaking
with
you
to
make
sure
we've
captured
it
the
April
strategy
session
after
discussion,
we
can
see
where
these
8888
follow-up
items
reside.
Some
may
need
to
have
a
potential
council
action.
C
Some
will
be
just
the
managers
responsibility,
some
will
be
existing
initiatives
of
programs
or
you
may
find
out
that
after
we've
talked
with
you
that
you
may
suggest
that
you
know
sticky
number
17
was
just
a
thought
and
you
didn't
expect
a
future
action
required.
I
will
tell
you.
This
is
good
for
us.
It's
a
lot
of
work,
but
it's
good
for
us,
because
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
we're
talking
with
you
to
get
the
essence
of
what
you
were
trying
to
get
out
of
the
retreat.
C
B
Q
J
So,
just
to
clarify,
we
have
two
different
documents
here:
right:
the
short,
medium
and
long
term,
goals
for
mobility,
accessibility
and
connectivity.
These
are
independent
of
this
list
of
57
of
these
might
be.
Cross-Referenced
is
I.
J
C
The
great
point,
so
if
we
start
off
with
short
term
six
months,
item
number
one
planned
to
connect
all
sidewalk
gaps,
so
we
would
go
back
to
the
individual
who
had
the
question
to
make
sure
we've
captured
the
right
question.
We'd
have
an
issue
statement.
There
would
be
some
background
information
in
terms
of
what
we
do
with
sidewalks
and
the
fund
things
that
nature
and
potential
next
steps.
C
C
Forward
so
councilman
Winston,
if
I
understand
you
I
think
there
are
two
pieces.
One
is
that
there
will
be
some
metrics
that
would
determine
what
is
success,
but
also
there
are
some
things
that
we
may
have
already
initiated
that
really
hasn't
risen
to
this
level.
A
lot
of
it's
going
to
be
the
feedback
that
we
get
from
you
as
we
talk
with
you
about
this
in
March
and
April.
The
goal
is
by
the
time
we
get
to
July.
J
N
Quick
points,
one
just
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
earn
too
much
staff
time
without,
like
some
of
this
is
really
valuable,
I
think
some
of
it
is
duplicative
and
things
like
that,
so
I'm,
assuming
the
first
step.
It's
a
few
came
to
me
and
said
autonomous
vehicles
right
and
short
and
long-term
I
and
I.
N
Think
this
part
I'll
tell
you
exactly
what
I
meant
by
that
and
what
I
thought
the
workload
was
when
I
look
at
some
of
these,
like
connect,
sidewalks
planning
plan
connectivity
for
job
centre,
strategic
mobility
plan
adopt
a
policy
that
community-wide
transportation
system.
My
assumption
is
like
a
bunch
of
this,
is
going
to
consolidate
down.
C
While
the
team
basically
started
to
consolidate
this
down
to
a
fraction
of
this
I
said
it's
not
fair
to
Council,
because
council
will
say
well
what
was
on
the
cutting
room
floor,
so
everything
it's
in
here,
there's
no
way
they're
going
to
be
57
items.
It
potentially
is
about
half
of
that,
because
so
many
of
these
are
related,
I
actually
pulled
out,
but
there.
N
Might
be
three
or
four
unique
topics
and
short
term
items,
but
I
think
I
only
make
the
point,
because
I
think
all
of
us
want
to
know.
Where
was
the
thing
we
said
and
we
can
point
to
the
sub
part
of
the
flight,
but
again
I'm
also
gonna
assume
that
a
lot
of
these
plans
already
exist
and
this
isn't
net
new
white
papers
and
stuff
right
absolutely
and
then
selfishly
where's,
Providence
Road.
H
B
Q
Tell
me
if
what
I'm
thinking
is
the
correct
expectation
based
on
what
you
share,
what
we're
going
to
see
in
the
next
month
or
so
is
for
each
one
of
our
four
focus
areas.
These
are
the
three
goals.
These
are
the
specific
action
steps
that
we're
going
to
take,
and
these
are
the
metrics
that
we
know
were
red
or
green.
Q
C
So
where
we
were
earlier
was
I
was
going
to
provide
you
with
a
sheet
that
consolidated
most
of
this
and
again
I.
Think
I
would
have
had
more
questions.
Had
I
not
put
everything
down
there
again
there
be.
There
will
be
two
phases
of
this.
One
is
the
short
medium
and
long
term,
and
that
was
around
mobility.
H
B
So
let
me
I'll,
ask
you
Friday.
Let
me
say
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
is
we
talk
about
major
initiatives
and
key
initiatives,
and
always
we
have
one
about
being
an
effective
good
government,
but
we
can
roll
up
great
neighborhoods
and
Safe
Communities
and
we
can
have
the
transportation
planning
and
environment
and
workforce
and
development.
So
I
would
assume
that
when
I
see
this
and
Marcus
this
may
be.
What
I'm
just
kind
of
dreaming
about
is
that
we
have
some
major
goals
around.
B
It
would
actually
be
the
idea
we
talked
a
lot
three
days
about
these
big
buckets
and
now
how
do
we
drive
those
big
buckets
down
into
initiatives
that
are
funded
with
metrics
mm-hmm
and
how
do
they
contribute
to
those
large
buckets,
okay
and
I?
Think
that's
where
I
kind
of
see
the
value
in
this
of
having
it?
Everything
in
here
you
get
to
see
because
at
some
point
it's
going
to
fit
within
a
plan.
B
Mm-Hmm
of
action,
that's
funded
and
we'll
guide
a
lot
of
the
work
being
done
for
the
budget,
so
you
should
think
we
should
be
thinking
about
our
budget
and
we
have
our
first
workshop
Wednesday.
Is
that
correct
Wednesday?
So
when
you
look
at
this
list,
I
look
and
think.
Well.
What
are
we
talking
about
in
our
budget?
That
relates
to
those
major
buckets
that
we
want
to
have?
Okay,.
Q
B
Because
you
know
we,
we
have
a
really
a
lot
of
really
talented
people
working
here
and
we
want
to
be
innovative.
We
want
to
encourage
them
to
be
creative
and
come
back
to
us
with
the
very
best
of
what's
cutting-edge,
so
there's
kind
of
we
think
about
these
things,
but
I
want
to
see
that
energy
and
innovation,
because
they're
talking
about
it
every
day,
I
think
some
of
us
talked
about
it
every
day.
B
Alright,
so
now
we're
going
to
go
to
our
committee
updates
and
I
thought
we
would
start
first
with
budget
and
effectiveness
and
I
also
wanted
to
see
at
your
place.
We've
referred
I've
sent
a
referral
to
the
budget
and
effectiveness
committee
on
our
resolutions
issue
and
we've
talked
about
this.
A
good
bit
and
Patrick
will
be
working
with
us
on
this,
but
it's
kind
of
like
how
to
address
this
issue
so
that
we
plan
is
even
if
we
decide
to
deviate
from
the
plan.
We
at
least
know
where
we
start.
L
First
of
all,
the
members
of
the
committee
are
using
me
I'm
skipping
here
myself,
Vice
Chair,
Iseult
dimple
edge,
Mira,
Malcolm,
Graham
and
Renae
Johnson.
Our
purpose
is
to
review
and
recommend
policies
to
ensure
the
city
has
a
strong
and
sustainable
financial
plan
and
maintains
operational
efficiency
and
effectiveness.
We've
met
twice
since
the
last
report
out
once
was
on
January
2nd,
to
give
some
council
members
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
agenda
for
our
retreat
and
provide
input.
L
We
generally
I
think
approved
the
agenda
for
the
retreat
and
commented
mainly
about
what
sort
of
discussion
should
take
place
during
the
long
period
set
aside
for
council
conversation
and
personal
opinion.
The
retreat
was
the
success,
so
I
think
that
is
good
on
the
21st
we
met
and
we
cover
a
couple
of
topics.
The.
L
Chief
financial
officer
presented
a
plan
on
the
city's
expected
future
borrowing,
and
this
is
essentially
a
list
of
refinancings
and
other
financings
related
to
current
activity
and
not
new
debt.
Incurrence
you'll
see
some
itemized
descriptions
in
the
report.
We
also
heard
about
the
financial
2019
audit
by
cherry
Beckert.
There
were
five
opinions
expressed
in
the
audit
financial
statements,
internal
controls
over
financial
reporting,
federal
single
audits,
state
single
audit
and
passenger
Facility
Charges
collected
by
the
airport.
We
received
clean
opinions,
unmodified
opinions
for
each.
L
There
was
one
item
that
was
highlighted
as
a
material
witness,
which
was
an
error
concerning
the
closeout
dates
of
capital
projects
and
encumbrance
added
some
certain
contracts.
Corrective
action
is
going
to
be
taken
about
that.
We
got
an
update
on
existing
capital
projects
which
basically
included
a
review
of
178
projects
that
are
currently
ongoing
with
a
total
budget
of
1.1
billion
of
those
19
are
completed
since
the
previous
update
for
projects
waiting
on
partners,
and
there
were
eight
with
some
budget
risk
and
I
think
this
is
the
one
item
that
Navy
deserves
council
attention.
L
So
there
are
now
eight
items
that
have
some
uncertainty
about
the
budget
surrounding
them
and
it
looked
like
from
the
information
we
got.
The
magnitude
of
that
could
be
something
like
10
to
20
million
dollars
in
total,
so
I
think
the
good
news
is,
it
doesn't
appear
that
there
are
any
ticking
time
bombs
out
there,
but
we
will
see
some
fine-tuning
on
a
number
of
budget
items.
L
B
Remember
this
is
an
opportunity
to
ask
a
question
about
something
that
you're
concerned
about
as
we're
moving
forward
or
what
you're
hearing
is.
Some
concerns
is
a
feedback
time
so
I
mean,
and
it's
great
they
accept
your
report
I
like
to
say
it's
always
good
to
know
that
you
review
our
audit
findings.
That's
really
an
important
part
of
what
we
need
to
do.
Okay,
all
right.
So
the
next
committee
is
our
neighborhoods
committee,
great
neighborhoods.
Mr.
Graham.
Thank.
G
You,
madam
mayor,
the
great
neighbors
committee,
is
comprised
of
my
vice
chairman
Bryson
Winston
tari
Julie
Wallington.
We
have
one
meeting
thus
far
this
year
with
a
very
special
guest
council
member
Johnson
and
joined
us
as
well.
You
see
the
purpose
and
the
goals
and
objectives
laid
out
for
you
of
the
committee.
Our
first
committee
was
really
an
orientation
session
that
we
use
to
get
the
new
members,
including
me
and
Victoria,
and
miss
Johnson
after
speed
on
some
of
the
terms,
housing
policies.
G
Local
stay
in
the
federal
funding
sources
talked
about
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
allocation
process,
summary
of
key
housing
programs,
the
tune
of
assistance
from
home
ownership
to
home
homeless,
to
homeownership.
So
it
was
a
really
really
good
meeting
orientation
session,
where
I
told
staff
and
Pamela
did
a
fantastic
job
in
terms
of
presenting
the
information
working
with
council
members
collectively.
G
As
a
committee
and
I
know,
she's
already
met
with
a
number
of
the
committee
members
individually
to
make
sure
that
all
the
new
members
are
up
to
speed
ready
to
go
in
terms
of
the
housing
initiative.
So
we
had
a
very,
very
good
meeting
because
of
her
assistance
and
her
knowledge
base.
You
should
know
that
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
proposal
went
out
on
January
17.
G
B
G
And
so
there
was
the
applications
to
do
back
on
February,
10th
and
Dana's
game
on
certainly
with
our
received
information
about
Brooke
Hill
I
took
the
opportunity
also
to
visit
it
with
Miss
Bobbye
myself.
G
B
Any
questions
about
this
I
think
the
housing
application
is
a
housing
trust
fund
application.
Given
the
funding
I
know
as
much
as
we
have
money,
it's
still
a
limitation,
particularly
in
the
environment
that
we're
in
and
looking
at
the
Tod
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
encouraging
the
ability
for
housing
on
the
rail
line
and
the
transit
system
is
even
more
of
a
challenge,
because
if
we
can
create
opportunities
for
people
not
to
have
to
have
a
car,
it
contributes
to
their
income.
G
Said
one
other
stuff
I
should
have
mentioned
in
reference
to
the
housing
partnership
and
the
new
complex
that
opened
up.
You
saw
the
long
lines
want
to
thank
comes
from
Emma
Johnson
for
kind
of
stepping
in
there
as
well
and
working
with
the
housing
partnership.
I
also
attended
a
meeting
with
them
that
night
with
the
community
and
so
I
was
there
to
kind
of
help
them
soften
the
blow.
They
admitted
publicly
that
they
had
a
bad
day,
and
but
that's
no
reflection
on
on
the
organization
at
all.
B
P
L
M
Obviously
violent
reduction
is
a
focus
for
the
community.
We
think
a
lot
of
these
other
things
are
the
things
that
will
help
us
achieve
that
violence
reduction
so
identifying
the
things
that
we
want
to
measure.
There's
some
examples
of
those
in
there,
everything
from
young
people's
ability
to
read
at
grade
level
to
reducing
the
behavioral
issues
that
we're
seeing
in
school.
So
a
lot
of
this
is
preventative,
proactive
measures.
M
We
do
obviously
realize
that
there
will
be
reactive
measures
in
terms
of
law
enforcement
as
well,
but
we're
building
on
four
main
building
blocks,
but
we
also
there
was
a
clear
mandate.
I
forgot
to
mention
our
honor,
a
sixth
man
on
the
on
the
team,
mr.
wooster
Winston,
and
this
is
something
he
and
others
brought
up
on.
In
addition
to
the
four
building
blocks
of
community
collaborative
approach
in
priority
areas,
implementing
violence
and
eruption
program,
investing
community
led
efforts
and
making
sure
that
we're
using
evidence
and
data
as
best
possible.
M
There
was
also
a
clear
consensus
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
very
explicitly
stating
our
intention
and
desire
to
work
hand
in
hand
with
the
other
organizations
that
share
in
this
work
and
share
in
this.
In
this
task,
and
obviously
everyone
from
the
county
to
the
school
board
to
the
state
public
defender's
office,
district
attorney,
C,
MPD,
Sheriff's
Department.
M
Everyone
is
going
to
have
to
be
working
together
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
we're
not
being
redundant
in
our
efforts
that
were
being
complementary
in
our
efforts
and
that
something
one
person
is
doing.
It's
not
in
conflict
with
with
another
organization,
so
there
was
a
kind
of
a
steady
drumbeat
throughout
the
discussion
about
how
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
partnership,
not
six
or
eight
organizations
operating
independently.
So
you
can
read
the
rest
of
it.
We
want
to
benchmark
against
peer
cities
as
we
do
with
a
lot
of
things.
M
So
I'm
not
gonna,
read
the
whole
sheet
to
you
but
happy
to
entertain
any
questions
and
I
would
encourage
anybody
who's
interested
to
either
attend
or
watch
tomorrow
at
noon,
we'll
be
down
in
ch
14
and
with
the
goal.
Well,
we'll
have
a
presentation
from
Gibby
Harris.
The
public
health
director
for
Mecklenburg
County
will
also
have
a
goal
in
that
meeting
tomorrow
of
advancing
the
framework
that
we
started.
Work
on
in
January,
22nd
out
of
committee
tomorrow
to
send
to
the
full
council
so
and
there
will
be
a
nutritious
and
delicious
lunch
served.
R
M
C
I
guess
it
was
in
December,
Dina
and
I
are
meeting
with
a
group
of
folks,
and
now
we
have
calendar
at
that
to
have
an
ongoing
meeting
with
the
sheriff,
the
chief
and
people
at
that
level
to
discuss
how
we
can
collaborate
with
this
process
and
then
there's
a
staff
to
staff
component.
And
then
there
is
elected
to
elective
component.
B
J
I
suggest
I
think
I
might
have
said
this
to
you
before
to
the
group
before
we
already
have
a
table
where
all
those
folks
are
meeting
with
see
jag.
So,
instead
of
perhaps
trying
to
recreate
the
wheel,
we
should
take
advantage
of
forms
that
already
exists,
and
we
just
take
a
different
approach
to
those
forms
that
already
exist.
I.
C
Don't
disagree,
one
of
the
things
that
was
I
guess
very
interesting
for
the
county
manager
and
I.
It
was
just
staff
for
wanting
to
get
the
okay
from
the
two
of
us
to
work
together,
and
so
it
we're
taking
some
bigger
steps
in
this
collaboration.
So
I
think
it's
important
that
Dina
and
I
be
involved,
at
least
until
we
can
figure
out
what
is
this
collaborative
frame?
Looking
like
I.
B
G
One
comment
attendant
in
the
question
comment
is
in
terms
of
collaboration
in
those
meetings.
I
don't
expect
them
to
be
at
all
the
meetings,
but
there
can
be
maybe
a
special
one
where
we
bring
in
grassroot
leadership
to
kind
of
talk
with
you
guys
as
well.
Don't
expect
to
be
every
meeting,
but
certainly
there
might
be
one
month
where
you
want
to
bring
in
someone
to
sit
around
the
table
to
kind
of
hear
their
perspective
from
the
from
the
ground
level.
At.
B
I
do
think
this
is
interesting.
All
of
us
have
great
relationships
with
a
number
of
different
types
of
people
and
I.
Had
a
good
friend
serve
a
lot
of
time,
and
he
said
you
know,
I
want
to
be
able
to
help.
You
understand.
What's
going
on,
I
think
all
of
us
ought
to
be
seeking
that
kind
of
understanding,
and
sometimes
the
only
way
to
get
it
is
with
people
that
have
experienced
the
system
and
I
would
think
that
it
would
be
worth
it
consideration.
Mr.
B
Jones,
if
we
actually
did
have
some
folks
that
are
doing
this
community
work
a
while
back
a
couple
of
kind.
It
seems
like
two
years,
but
a
year
ago
we
actually
had
a
meeting
with
a
number
of
people
that
are
active
and
you
know
they
come
through
reentry
and
they
want
to
help
other
people
and
they
were
doing
all
kinds
of
work.
It
was
really
a
good
meeting
because
for
the
first
time
they
had
the
ability
to
describe
what
their
commitment
was
to
this
community
and
I.
B
Don't
think
we
can
do
this
work
without
their
understanding
and
strength.
So
I
would
agree
that
it
might
be
worth
just
having
another.
You
can't
talk
about
this
enough
if
we
could
actually
work
with
a
group
that
have
gone
have
gone
through
the
system
come
out,
they've
got
re-entry
and
they're
helping
bring
other
people
along
and.
M
I
think
in
that
their
perspective
will
be
valuable
on
every
facet
of
what
we
do,
but
I
think
that
they
will
be
particularly
critical
as
we
look
at
this
in
implementing
of
a
violence
interruption
program.
Those
are
the
exact
type
of
people,
I,
think
not
solely,
but
I,
think
those
people
fit
squarely
into
the
folks
who
have
the
the
credibility
in
the
community
to
be
able
to
be
those
violence,
interrupters
that
a
police
officer
or
an
elected
official
or
somebody
might
not
always
have.
B
G
G
G
K
M
G
Would
just
hope
that
we
can
be
proactive
and
pursuing
that
met
with
the
chief
last
week,
and
you
know
we
need
to
make
sure
that
they
got
the
tools
that
they
need.
We
want
to
do
the
wraparound
service
for
sure,
but
we
know
there's
a
problem
consistently
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
again.
At
some
point,
I
mean
the
data
should
be
there
and
then
it's
time
for
for
some
type
of
implement.
M
And
so
I
think
to
that
part
of
what
we're
looking
at
when
we're
analyzing
the
programs
that
either
exist
in
Charlotte
exist
elsewhere
or
that
maybe
don't
exist,
but
we're
considering
would
be.
How
can
they
be
targeted
at
either
a
geographic,
geographically
specific
areas
where
we've
identified
hot
spots,
ie
the
one
you
just
referenced
or
targeted
to
specific
age
groups
or
young
men.
M
Things
like
that
that
are
the
specific
demographics
that
we've
identified,
where
there's
most
need
so
I
think
in
some
instances
we
might
be
looking
at
programs
that
have
an
eye
towards
a
Sugarcreek
eighty-five
of
Nations
for
era.
Would
those
places
that
we've
identified
as
the
the
most
challenged
areas.
R
So
the
first
one
was
the
update
on
the
comprehensive
2040
comprehensive
vision
plan,
which
we
look
at
as
a
shared
vision
for
growth
over
the
next
20
years,
and
what
that
plan
is
really
doing
is
developing
transformative
strategy
strategies
using
a
lot
of
the
plans
that
are
already
out
there
and
so
sort
of
pulling.
Those
together
is
updating
the
ones
that
outdated
and
coming
up
with
one
comprehensive
plan.
It's
the
name.
R
R
Along
with
that,
we
got
a
an
update
on
a
new
app
that
hopefully
will
be
introduced,
some
funding
forthcoming,
which
was
really
cool.
We
really
enjoyed
seeing
the
demonstration
for
what's
called
arc.
Urban
3d
demo
and
staff
gave
us
a
brief
presentation
and
demonstration
of
the
new
technology.
That's
being
piloted
has
been
piloted
by
the
planning,
design
and
development
department,
and
it
gives
the
ability
to
visualize
and
analyze
developments,
much
quicker
by
overlaying
different
data
points
on
a
particular
site,
well,
a
site
by
site
basis.
R
L
Want
to
emphasize
the
3d
images,
so
it's
really
cool,
they
have
all
different
shapes
building
types
and
you
can
sort
of
touch
buttons
and
see
different
scenarios.
And
then
there
are
data
layers
that
provide
other
information
about
the
area
in
which
the
new
development-
and
it
enables
you
to
kind
of
extrapolate
into
traffic
projections
and
other
things
so
I
agree.
It's
a
great
planning
tool
and
I'd
love
to
see
us
move
ahead
with
it.
What's.
R
Really
cool
is
that
if
you
have
a
development
or
developments
in
a
certain
area,
it'll
tell
you
how
many
jobs
would
be
created,
how
many
residential
units
would
be
there,
and
it
really
gives
a
cool
impression,
which
is
often
what
we're
missing
in
our
in
our
zoning
presentations
when
we
get
things
transactionally
and
we're
looking
at
one
plan
at
a
time,
and
we
don't
really
understand
the
impact
it
might
have
on
the
broader
area.
So
yes,
mr.
Dinks
point
that
this
gives
us
that
ability-
which
I
think
is
just
fantastic
so.
M
R
It
will
be
integrated
to
identify
and
and
take
care
of,
the
conflicts
that
come
out
of
pulling
all
those
plans
together
and
again,
it
is
informed
by
the
comprehensive
vision
plan
and
the
you
do
so
it
essentially
is
going
to
make
sure
that
we're
aligning
the
policies
and
actions
that
are
designed
to
connect
all
of
this
together.
The
reason
it's
important
is
that
it
will
update
yeah
update
in
the
line.
R
I
H
I
Council,
member
Johnson
and
thank
you
Victoria
Jordan
is
councils
of
the
lobby
on
that
first
meeting
on
January
6
and
you
keep
it
big
three
premiere
in
Council,
we
really
talked
to
focus
on
I,
pulled
the
pillars
prospective
business,
great
places
of
development
and
business
innovation.
You
can
see
there
on
the
cover.
B
I
do
think
that
the
comment
around
implementation
is
important.
I
think
that
all
of
us
can
MIT
to
the
fact
that
we've
got
really
a
low
unemployment
right
now
and
the
idea
of
developing
workforce
talent
quickly
and
giving
training.
But
the
thing
that
we
hadn't
had
incorporated
was
the
guarantee
of
a
job
at
the
end
of
the
training.
Now
we
have
businesses
coming
to
us
saying:
we've
got
more
jobs.
B
I
think
that
that
idea
of
this
window
is
not
going
to
last
forever,
so
we
need
to
push
people
that
haven't
had
the
opportunity
to
participate
just
because
of
the
lack
of
training,
because
once
they
get
training
they
get
on
entranceway
points
or
pathways,
as
we
would
say
so.
I
would
hope
that
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I
have
heard
the
most
about
and
I'm,
not
sure
where,
where
it
is
here.
But
when
we
talk
about
small
businesses,
it's
it's
actually
figuring
out
how
our
program
expands
beyond
the
inclusion
program.
B
All
of
us
know
that
the
city
has
a
two
billion
dollar
plus
budget,
but
when
you
took
out
take
out
the
cost
of
people,
you
don't
really
have
goods
and
services
that
could
support
any
small
business.
It's
not
that
it's
not
in
the
governmental
sector
that
people
make
money
and
so
I'm
wondering
at
the
same
time,
how
do
we
actually
create
more
opportunities
that
will
allow
businesses
to
grow
I
said
this
a
year
ago?
B
How
do
we
actually
open
up
opportunities
that
are
kalach
tout
by
regulatory
efforts
at
the
state
level
or
even
at
our
own
personal
level?
What
are
we
doing?
Lock,
people
out
and
I
always
ask
the
question:
what
are
we
doing
first
and
then,
where
do
those
obstacles
stand
for
other
places?
I
I
really
believe
that
opportunity
has
to
be
has
to
challenge
the
status
quo
in
this
situation,
insurance,
bonding,
I
think
then
we
can
go
to
our
partners
in
finance
and
say:
are
we
really
red
lining
businesses
now,
instead
of
housing,
so
I
hope
I?
B
Don't
see
that
in
here
a
lot
of
us
is
about
what
we're
doing,
but
government
will
never
make
a
strong
small
business
environment.
It
has
to
be
the
marketplace
that
does
that
and
I
think
we
ought
to
figure
out
how
we
connect
or
take
down
barriers
and
create
opportunities,
so
I
have
mr.
Winston
and
mr.
Driggs,
okay,
mr.
Winston
start.
J
Green
with
what
you
said
that
the
markets
are
gonna
have
to,
you
know,
are
going
they're
going
to
dictate
the
the
small
business
environment.
However,
I
think
we
can
play
a
role
and
out
of
fear
of
getting
to
to
making
picking
the,
for
instance,
picking
the
wrong
industry
to
concentrate
on
in
a
certain
year,
I'd
be
more
interested
if
we
can
perhaps
create
a
bigger
umbrella
goal
that
will
give
us
the
nimbleness
to
work
within
a
certain
focus
area
month
to
month
quarter
to
quarter
year
to
year.
J
So
what
if
we
were
able
to
work
on
something,
instead
of
just
saying,
let's
connect
these
folks
to
these
jobs
by
a
certain
time.
We
said
something
bold,
like
come
up
with
a
strategy,
so
that
any
everybody
that,
by
the
time,
when
every
eighteen-year-old
in
Charlotte
or
everybody,
who
is
a
graduating
age
from
high
school,
is
prepared
to
go
to
it
to
get
a
job
go
to
college
or
a
higher
level
of
education,
whether
that
be
a
trade
school
two-year,
school
or
four-year
institution
or
going
to
the
military
right
create
those
pathways.
P
So
I
thought
councilmember
Braxton
was
going
to
go
back
to
the
BM
CR
IB
or
the
community
review
for
the
CR
before,
because
you
asked
mayor
how
we,
as
the
city
can
can
take
action
to
remove
barriers
for
people.
This
is
one
of
those
practical
examples.
We
just
spoke
a
half
an
hour
ago
or,
however
long
though
that
was
about
the
you
know,
someone
with
a
felony
record
not
being
eligible
for
a
specific
board,
so
we
consider
leading
the
way
in
banning
the
box
and
can
no
right,
but
I
mean
on
that
board.
P
We
had
a
whole
discussion
about
a
person
with
the
felony
is
automatically
even
if
they're
convicted
removed
from
the
board
and
I
know
that,
because
of
the
dynamics
of
that
board,
but
it's
something
that
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
consider
case
by
case
basis.
This
is
just
one
of
those
practical
examples
of
how
we
have
to
think
about
that
and
when
we
really
want
to
remove
barriers-
or
we
talked
about
the
barber
board
and
the
other
board,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do
that
ourselves.
P
B
B
So
a
lot
to
do
to
think
about
this.
But
it
seems
to
me
that
if
you
are
going
in
to
build
or
construct-
and
you
can't
do
that-
but
reentry
is
a
federal
issue-
that
I
think
has
got
state
implications,
as
well
as
local
I
have
to
credit
the
sheriff
of
Mecklenburg
County
for
doing
a
lot,
and
we
need
to
do
as
much
as
we
can.
Mr.
Mcoy
yeah
I.
N
N
You
know,
looking
at
programs
like
project
piece
and
my
app
and
those
things
like
that
and
what
the
next
version
tomorrow
so
I,
just
I,
just
want
to
reiterate,
like
if
we're
spending
extra
time
on
something
right
now
in
this
right
now,
poised
right
before
this
budget
cycle,
the
time
to
be
spending
it
is
on
workforce.
In
my
opinion,.
J
All
right,
I'll,
I
guess
I
will
begin
your
intergovernmental
relations
committee.
Our
committee
members
are
myself
and
my
co-chair
Tariq
Bukhari,
as
well
as
Larkin
Eggleston,
James,
Mitchell
and
and
mr.
Matt
Newton,
we're
gonna
split
this
up
between
mr.
Bukhari
and
I
and
I'll
start
by
just
saying
that
we
have
met
twice
since
the
last
strategy
session
on
January
21st
in
January
27
triggered
before
we
go
into
the
the
minutes
of,
though
those
meetings
just
want
to
kind
of
give
you
an
update
about
the
approach
that
mr.
J
J
There
seems
to
always
be
the
need
to
to
reach
out
to
other
entities
around
our
other
policymaking
bodies,
and
so
we
want
to
talk
amongst
the
committee
and
when
we
invite
the
of
the
rest
of
council
and
the
mayor's
office
for
us
to
figure
out
a
strategy
of
how
we
do
that
kind
of
seamlessly
and
constantly.
In
the
meantime,
mr.
Bukhari
and
I
have
been
set
in
meetings
and
having
meetings
with
various
folks
from
around
decision-making
bodies,
either
mr.
J
Bukhari,
by
by
himself
me
by
myself
or
together
and
and
since
we've
been
put
on
this
committee,
we
have
met
with
the
district
attorney
school
board,
members
of
the
chair
and
intergovernmental
chair,
and
we
have
a
forthcoming
meeting
with
the
superintendent
as
well.
Several
County
Commissioners,
the
public
defender,
the
chief
district
court
judge
legislators
and
the
the
local
represent
representation
of
the
governor's
office.
J
We
have
a
meeting
with
the
sheriff
upcoming
happy
to
talk
to
anybody
answer
any
questions
about
some
of
the
things
very
interesting
things
that
we've
been
learning
in
those
meetings
and
possible
collaboration
areas.
We
also
encourage,
if
there's
anybody,
that
our
colleagues
think
we
should
be
meeting
with
or
points
that
you
would
like
for
us
to
bring
up
two
different
entities.
Two
different
bodies,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
mr.
Bukhari
and
I,
and
we
shall
do
so.
N
So
with
that,
I
am
going
to
quickly
just
give
you
a
quick
highlight
of
where
we
are
in
the
current
legislative
agenda
process
outlined
what
has
made
it
out
of
committee
and
tell
you
about
the
dates
to
come,
and
you
all
hopefully
receive
some
of
this
information.
If
not,
we
can
go
through
more,
but
on
February
17th
is
the
next
intergovernmental
relations
committee
meeting.
That
is
where
we
will
have
any
final
work
referred
to
that
committee.
N
Any
discussions
leading
to
February
24th,
our
second
and
final
business
meeting
of
this
month,
where
we
will
have
a
council
vote.
This
will
be
the
formal
vote
locks
down
the
legislative
agenda
for
this
for
this
legislative
year,
I'm
gonna
quickly
just
run
through,
and
anyone
who
has
questions.
We
can
go
back
and
have
deeper
items.
The
topic
headers.
So
you
all
are
away
of
the
federal
and
state
legislative
agenda
items
for
the
federal
one.
You
have
an
item
on
affordable
housing
again,
a
follow
on
that.
N
We've
seen
this
CDBG
in
the
home
items
from
the
federal
government
that
we
constantly
on
an
annual
basis,
look
at
comprehensive
immigration
reform.
You
can
see.
This
is
really
based
upon
the
work
that
councilmember
Eccleston
and
the
committee
and
staff
that
went
through
the
community
in
this
last
year.
You
see
things
like
h-1b
visas,
asylum-seekers,
temporary
protected
status
and
daca
arrivals.
N
So
a
lot
more
specificity
there
in
relation
to
what
we
learned
in
those
committee
meetings
or
those
community
meetings,
transportation
and
infrastructure,
we
have
items
on
transit,
airports,
highway
and
passenger
rail
modernize,
the
sustainable
infrastructure
and
then
the
Wasi
or
urban
area
security
initiative
topics
there.
So
there
are
four
in
that
space
that
are
also
for
for
the
state
legislative
agenda,
affordable
housing,
local
control,
minimum
housing
standards
and
North
Carolina
search-and-rescue
teams.
You
can
read
descriptions
on
there.
We
can
give
anyone
deeper
items.
N
These
four
on
federal
and
four
on
state
are
the
ones
that
made
it
out
of
last
month's
committee
meeting
and
are
now
and
being
proposed
to
be
brought
to
us
for
final
vote.
What
is
not
included
in
that
list
are
several
things
that
folks
have
brought
up
and
either
aren't
ready
or
didn't
make
it
out
of
committee
and
I
just
want
to
kind
of
put
on
the
record.
N
One
of
those
items
is
one
of
the
ones
I
and
several
of
you
have
been
working
on
in
comprehensive
criminal
justice
reform,
while
I
would
very
much
like
it
to
be
on
there.
I
think
I
self
recognize
that
we
are
not
at
the
point
with
some
of
these
things,
we're
putting
on
the
paper
is
conducive
to
the
outcome.
We're
looking
for,
but
I
don't
want
anyone
to
think
that
criminal
justice
reform
is
not
one
of
our
top
priorities.
We
have
a
lot
of
detail
in
front
of
me.
N
Is
a
current
draft
of
what
we've
been
working
on
detailing
additional
Superior,
Court
judges,
assignment
processes,
penalties
for
possession
of
firearm
by
felon
digital
records,
particularly
the
DA's
office,
in
the
courts
they.
But
these
are
very
complex
items
that
again
haven't
haven't,
been
polished
enough
and
detailed
enough
and
the
strategies
to
be
placed
on
this
now,
but
things
we
are
going
to
continue
to
work
on
from
our
parking
lot
and
continue
forth
there.
So
with
that,
you
know,
I
I
think
we
should
probably
just
open
it
up
for
conversation
too
and
I'll.
J
We've
had
a,
and
we
had
a
pretty
lively
discussion
both
times
in
in
our
committee,
about
how
we
use
our
legislative
agendas.
Traditionally,
we
have
only
put
on
items
that
we
think
are
able
to
be
carried
over
the
finish
line
in
the
occurring
legislative
session,
but
I
I
have
proposed,
and
and
especially
around
one
item
that
did
make
it
out
of
committee,
advocating
for
more
local
control.
I
think
we
have
a
philosophical
question
about
about.
How
do
we
use
our
legislative
agenda?
J
Keeping
a
conversation
going,
a
representation
of
that
and
in
the
past,
has
been
our
desire
to
get
subpoena
power
on
the
for
the
citizens
review
board
one
of
the
minimum
housing.
The
minimum
housing
standards
item
would
also
be
a
current
occurrence
of
that
that
came
out
of
committee
and
that
more
Meetic
getting
things
over
the
finish
line,
so
so
short
long
and
medium
term
approach
to
a
legislative
agenda.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
the
conversation
that
we're
going
to
have
to
have,
for
instance,
I
proposed
this.
J
This
local
control
I
proposed
putting
legalization
of
recreational
marijuana
on
on
on
the
table
council
member
ash
Mira
put
on
this
this
idea
of
source
of
income
discrimination
on
the
agenda.
We
think
that
might
be
something
that
might
be
better
handled
in
committee
and
the
great
neighborhoods
committee,
councilmember
Watlington,
put
requested
legislation
addressing
transportation
funding
requirements
in
her
district.
But
again
that
might
be
something
that
we
might
put
in
a
parking
lot.
No,
my
longer
strategy
around,
but
again
this
is
a
these.
Are
discussions
that
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
have.
L
So
I
think
we
need
to
look
carefully
at
what
exactly
the
legislative
agenda
represents
and
having
been
on
that
committee.
For
some
time,
the
people
of
Charlotte
have
the
opportunity
to
vote
for
national
representatives
who
decide
national
policy
questions.
They
can
make
their
opinions
about
it
known,
that
is
the
channel
through
which
they
influence
national
policy.
Similarly,
at
the
state
level,
statewide
policy
decisions
are
made
by
people
who
are
elected
by
their
constituents
to
address
those.
They
should
be
guided
by
input
from
those
constituents
on
those
issues.
L
Our
job
in
the
legislative
agenda
is
to
communicate
Charlotte's
interests
and
therefore
advocate
for
things
like
funding
for
transportation,
which
is
something
that
immediately
affects
us
and
in
fact
the
the
things
I
have
trouble
with
from
what
you
just
talked
about
is
immigration
policy
is
a
national
issue.
Our
situation
here
is
not
different
from
just
about
any
other
major
city,
and
therefore
we
don't
have
any
special
standing
on
that.
L
The
municipalities,
the
League
of
Municipalities,
is
working
very
hard
in
general,
on
behalf
of
all
municipalities
in
North
Carolina,
to
obtain
specific
authorities
and
and
to
generally
relax
the
control
that
the
General
Assembly
exercises
over
us.
But
the
fact
is
that
our
Constitution
defines
what
kind
of
a
state
we
are
and
we
act
based
on
authorities
we
receive
now.
If
we
go
to
them
and
say,
for
example,
we
would
like
to
have
authority
say
on
the
source
of
income
or
whatever,
and
this
is
a
priority
for
us.
So
then
we
go
in.
L
They
think
about
whether
that's
a
local
bill,
whether
it's
a
state
bill,
how
they
respond
to
that
the
difficulty
with
overstepping
and
getting
too
far
out
of
our
Lane
is
you
undermine
the
impact
of
the
things
that
are
really
doable
so
they'll
register?
Okay,
you
know:
you've
got
your
opinion
about
immigration,
great
we're
not
going
to
change
the
policy
United
States
of
America,
because
Charlotte
said
these
things
about
immigration,
but
we
may
change
transportation.
L
Funding
based
on
input
from
people
like
us
who
look
to
that
funding
for
very
immediate
needs
that
have
to
be
in
our
community,
so
I
just
hope
that
we
will
not
kind
of
water
down
our
message
and
and
undermine
our
effectiveness
by
coming
up
with
topics
on
a
legislative
agenda
that
will
be
regarded
by
members
of
those
other
bodies
as
being
their
business
and
not
ours.
The
question
for
mr.
Driggs.
L
There
are
specific
to
Charlotte,
in
other
words,
we
have
to
identify
why
Charlotte
in
particular,
is
approaching
them
on
this
topic
and
not
just
let
our
views
be
known
on
things
that
apply
equally
everywhere.
So
if
we
have
a
particular
situation
in
Charlotte
that
we
want
to
bring
to
their
attention
our
Airport,
for
example,
or
whatever
it
is,
we
talk
about
that
and
they
will
understand
that.
We
have
good
reason
to
be
approaching
about
that.
If
we
just
go
in
and
basically
tell
them
how
to
do
their
jobs
on
subjects
like
immigration
again,.
J
I,
don't
think
anybody
is
suggesting
that
I
think
part
part
of
this
thinking
about
this
new
approach
comes
from
last
year,
or
specifically
around
immigration
I
mean
that
there
was
the
fear.
The
fear
that
you
express
right
right
here
was
was
expressed
last
last
year
around
this
time,
and
there
was
they
would.
There
was
other
other
people
on
this
on
this
body
felt
that
so
we
put
it
in
a
sort
of
an
addendum,
specifically
around
immigration
reform.
J
When
we
went
up
to
Washington,
then
when
we
sat
in
those
rooms,
we
approached
this
and
we
had
that
conversation.
We
had
that
with
Republicans.
We
had
that
with
Democrats,
and
we
saw
that
you
know
what
we
we
had
a
bit
of
a
constructive
conversation.
Those
fears
that
we
were
putting
out
there.
They
were
misinformed
because
they
did
not
exist.
It
is
our
job
we
are
well.
While
we
do
deal
with
direct
policies,
we
are
representatives
of
the
people
of
Charlotte.
J
We
exist
in
a
representative
democracy,
so
people
do
give
us
the
ability
and
the
mandate
to
advocate
on
their
behalf
to
different
legislative
and
government
entities
and
bodies.
So
that
is
our
responsibility
again,
I
think
what
we're
saying
is.
We
should
have
a
conversation
as
a
council
to
figure
out
how
we
we
talk
about
these
things
in
the
most
constructive
way
possible,
so
that
we
can
have
successes
in
the
short
term,
but
also
in
the
long
term.
B
G
You,
madam
mayor
I'm,
very
excited
about
the
work
of
the
committee
Braxton
and
his
co-chairman
brings
a
lot
of
energy
to
this
committee
and
I'm
gonna
pass
her
to
Amanda
Maher
in
James,
which
we
all
knew
how
I
was
born.
I
got
the
scars.
This
still
prove
it.
So
the
mayor
stopped
talking
to
me
for
six
months.
H
G
G
G
We
can't
do
it
by
ourselves
and
we
got
to
beat
that
drum
home
over
and
over
and
over
again
as
I
spoken
with
them
individually,
Braxton's
already
been
there,
how
many
people
car
has
already
been
there,
and
so
the
committee
members
are
out
there
doing
the
work
and
I
appreciate
that
and
so
I
think
we
kind
of
anywhere
where
we
can
work
with
Mecklenburg
County
to
speak
with
my
voice.
I
think
that's!
That's
positive,
I
caution.
However,
on
local
control,
you
know
we
got
to
make
sure
we
understand
the
pieces
on
the
chessboard
we
got.
G
We
got
to
make
sure
we
understand
the
calendar
that
come
November.
The
piece
is
going
to
look
differently,
maybe
and
I.
Think-
and
it's
right
in
this
point,
I,
don't
want
all
the
get
work
of
the
committee
to
be
lost,
because
when
a
legislator
picks
up
our
requests,
they're
seeing
local
control,
that's
just
going
to
scare
the
hell
out
of
them,
and
so
I
was
just
cautioned.
G
N
G
The
first
thing
that
popped
by
I
looked
at
I
read
the
whole
paper
in
that
stop
at
Billy
too,
because
I
understand
the
sensitivity
of
that.
The
mayor,
the
current
mayor
over
the
last
two
years
have
done
a
great
job
of
cleaning
up
a
whole
lot
of
mess
up,
they're,
right
and
so
I
think
that
in
the
current
environment,
it's
not
urban
friendly,
ie
Charlotte
Greensboro
wait:
yeah
New,
Hanover,
County,
Wilmington
Asheville.
They
all
have
something
in
common
I'll.
J
See
three
council
members
that
voted
this
out
of
committee
understand
that
was
myself
mr.
Newton
and
mr.
Mitchell
I
think
I
completely
agree
that
part
of
this
is
about
how
you
message
this
right.
Are
we
going
to
ask
to
go
up
there
and
demand,
say
hey?
We
want
local
control
right
now.
You
know
this.
Is
the
man
and
we're
gonna
live?
No
I,
don't
think
anybody
is
saying
anything
like
this.
Well
we're
part
of
the
discussion
that
happened
and
I
would
like
to
touch
on
the
criminal
justice
portion
that
you
met.
You
pointed
out
there.
J
The
reality
is
that
we
as
a
city
often
run
into
roadblocks.
We
have
we
have
issues
and
we
have
solutions
that
are
needed
that
are
unique
to
any
other
part
of
this
state.
The
state
has
never
had
a
city
of
approaching
a
million
people.
This
state
has
never
had
a
comprehensive
the
need
for
comprehensive
public
mass
transit
system.
This
this
this
state
has
never
dealt
with
a
city
that
has
growing
by
a
thousand
people
a
week.
J
So
if
we
want
to
continue
the
the
continued
growth
of
this
city
is
important
not
just
for
us
but
but
for
for
the
rest
of
our
state,
no
else,
nowhere
else
in
the
state
that
is
there
an
airport
that
is
representative
of
4%,
of
the
total
economic
impact
of
this
of
this
state.
So
as
as
we
move
forward
for
the
health
of
the
state,
we
know
that
we
we
need
to
take
some
of
the
reigns
over.
So
how
can
we
long
term
again
not
coming
out
of
this
session?
But
how
do
we
talk
about
this?
J
How
do
we
go
to
these
legislators
and
different
different
legislators
in
different
parts
of
the
state?
How
do
we
engage
different
parts
of
the
state?
You
know
just
to
say?
Okay,
what
can
we
do
here?
You
know
that
to
do
the
things
that
works
for
Charlotte
and
Mecklenburg
County,
that
is
also
in
your
interests
and
and
and
and
that's
I-
think
in
correct
me.
J
If
I'm
wrong,
fellow
fellow
committee
members,
that's
the
way
we
talked
about
it
and
that's
what
we
are
interesting
and
exploring
with
the
rest
of
our
colleagues
as
it
pertains
to
criminal
justice.
I
think
this
is
exactly
again
kind
of
where
we
want
to
go.
Got
us
sometimes
step
out
of
the
box
where
we've
we've
been
I'll.
Talk
about
my
interaction
with
the
public,
defendant,
I.
Think
mr.
Vacarro
will
talk
about
our
interaction
with
the
district
attorney.
J
One
of
the
things
I
learned
is
that
a
public
defender
is
a
state
entity,
but
33
staff
members
are
are
paid
for
by
the
county.
We
used
to
pay
for
one
of
their
staff
members
under
a
pass
City
Council
that
was
done
out
of
Si
MPD.
There
was
when
a
chief
Monroe
took
over.
He
eliminated
that
that
position
talking
to
the
the
the
the
public
defender,
you
know,
he's
in
dire
need
of
one
more
social
worker
which
could
provide
some
of
the
the
restorative
care
that,
as
you
know,
that
three
lawyers
couldn't
do.
J
G
Now
I
got
the
mic
now
my
turn
I
wish
they
were.
They
all
know
those
stats
and
figures
you
recited
about
Charlotte
and
they
all
know
about
Greensboro
way.
It's
it's
it's
it's
not
about
the
policy.
It's
about
the
politics
and
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
policy
right,
but
we
also
get
the
politics
right
well,.
M
M
Last
year
we
weren't
with
immigration
I
think
we
we
talked
about
it
just
as
a
one
topic,
but
we
didn't
have
any
specificity
in
our
ask
now,
as
as
customer
Bukhari
has
outlined,
we
have
some
specificity
there,
I
actually,
even
though
it's
one
of
my
and
I
think
should
be
one
of
our
top
priorities.
When
the
judicial
system
reform
was
brought
up
in
the
committee
meeting,
I
said:
I
think
that
needs
more
specificity,
and
it
is
now
getting
that
so
I
think
too,
with
the
local
control
to
the
point
about.
M
M
So
to
me,
the
the
start
of
the
conversation
leads
to
something
getting
on
the
again.
That
can
be
a
philosophical
difference.
I,
don't
know
that
I'm
not
asking
you
to
agree
with
me.
I
just
think
that
there's
a
different
way
to
approach
the
beginning
of
the
conversation
to
get
to
putting
it
on
the
agenda
and
having
a
chance
of
success.
M
H
Q
In
light
of
the
discussion
that
we've
already
had,
and
specifically
what
councilmember
Eccleston
just
said,
I
think
that
the
piece
that
I
do
find
most
interesting
and
I
do
think
we
should
spend
some
time
on
just
tactically
it's
understanding.
What
does
that
look
like
before
it
gets
to
the
legislative
agenda?
I'll
leave
it
there,
I.
H
B
Want
to
say
that
I
think
mr.
Winston
and
I
can
have
this
conversation
in
many
ways
in
different
forms,
but
there's
a
part
of
it
when
you
talk
about
what
is
the
tactical
part
of
it?
Is
that
it's
almost
like
on
the
legislative
agenda,
you've
already
gotten
and
reached
some
idea
of
what
you
were
able
to
achieve.
B
Unless
you
know
the
criteria
and
the
criteria
drives
the
list-
and
it's
kind
of
like
with
anything
else,
the
people
that
you're
working
with
the
success
of
whatever
the
agenda
item
is
going
to
be
so
there
are
different
ways
of
approaching
it
and
and
the
thing
about
Charlotte
that
I've
always
thought
was
good,
is
that
our
agendas
have
been
really
embraced
by
the
county.
We've
actually
had
some
ideas
that
we'd
liked.
Sometimes
we
disagreed
now.
You
know
we
asked
for
a
study
committee
on
the
tax
exception
last
year.
B
Or
do
you
start
building
the
coalition's
to
get
you
there
that
you
can
have
influence
some
of
the
most
influential
legislators
on
transportation,
live
in
Gaston
County
and
if
we
don't
go
over
to
Gaston
County
and
have
lunch
with
them
and
talk
about
how
this
impacts
Gaston
County
and
how
it
impacts
the
rest
of
the
region,
then
we
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
to
that
place.
Now.
It
may
be
old
school,
but
most
of
the
legislators
are
have
worked
under
the
system
and
they
would
consider
themselves
successful.
I
think
what
mr.
B
Winston
brings
is
a
really
different
look
at
it
in
a
way
that
we
can
do
something.
You
know,
I
think
that
at
some
point
may
have
real
opportunity,
but
we
we
are
here
thinking
in
one
area
of
methodology
and
they're
in
another
method
of
methodology,
and
so
how
do
you
mess
this
things
together
and
when
do
you
know
that
their
work?
That's
really.
G
B
O
J
We'll
continue
to
do
so.
One
thing
am
I
recognized.
Sorry,
one
thing
I
will
say
again:
this
is
the
position
of
the
city,
the
City
of
Charlotte,
as
mr.
Driggs
said,
and
the
only
way
to
do
that
is
to
have
a
vote
by
the
City
Council.
Otherwise
we
are
just
individuals
that
are
going
to
have
individual
meetings
and
speaking
on
the
behalf
of
our
own
priorities,
and
that
is
not
again,
maybe
that's
a
political
agenda
of
individuals
or
maybe
we
want
to
put
a
political
agenda.
J
But
if
we
are
saying
we
need
things,
there
are
things
that
we
want
to
do.
We
don't
have
the
tools
to
do
those
things.
We
know
we
will
need
enabling
legislation
at
some
point
in
time
to
do
those,
and
we
should
say
those
things
and
perhaps
it's
not
beating
down
the
house
right
now.
I
would
say
most
of
these
things,
given
the
political
climate
around.
J
What's
going
on
up
in
up
in
up
in
Raleigh
right
now,
probably
not
gonna
get
done
in
this
short
session,
but
these
are
still
our
priorities,
so
we're
already
doing
what
I'm,
proposing
and
I
think
we
I
would
again
just
think
that
we
should
codify
this
and
be
a
little
bold
and
figure
out
how
to
get
people
to
change
a
little
bit
in
their
methodology
and
not
don't
be
afraid
to
lead.
We
can
use
carrots
here,
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
all
we
do
is
use,
sticks.
C
B
N
So
I
think
what
I
was
saying:
closing
is
don't
if
you
are
unsure
about
any
of
the
items
that
you've
just
heard,
particularly
home.
The
Home
Rule
approach,
I
think
you've
seen
one
versus
another.
Make
sure
to
reach
out
come
to
our
committee
meeting
talk
to
us
before
the
vote,
because
deciding
at
that
vote
is
not
going
to
be
helpful
at
healthy,
and
there
are
things
that
my
co-chair
and
I
disagree
on.
If
you
want
to
know
his
approach
and
reason
for
putting
Home
Rule,
there
go
talk
to
him.
N
If
you
want
to
know
the
opposite,
come
talk
to
me
on
that
front
or
others,
but
on
the
same
point
there
are
some
things
we
both
agree
on
very
vehemently,
so
one
of
which
is
to
Councilman
Graham's
point.
We
are
gonna
work,
a
lot
with
Dana
on
the
process
of
this.
To
make
sure
our
delegation
is
completely
armed
and
understands
behind
behind
the
scenes,
informally
and
then
formally
so
they
don't
feel
surprised.
N
So
they
feel
like
they're
part
of
this
process
with
us,
but
then
recognizing
the
current
state
up
there
we've
worked
and
built
a
lot
with
a
lot
of
relationships
with
people
outside
of
our
delegations
that
we
want
to
also
give
respect
to
in
this
process
to
help
with
some
of
those
lower
hanging,
fruit
items
and
I.
Think
one
thing
that
my
co-chair
and
I
both
do
agree
on,
and
we've
talked
about
several
times
even
today
with
when
we
meet
with
other
folks.
Is
it's
still
rebuilding
relationship
time
up
there?
We're
not.
N
managers
is
something
you
can
work
on
with
the
state.
You
know
when
we
get
a
Honeywell,
the
J
Diggs
that
come
from
there
there's
a
10%
piece
off
the
top
that
goes
for
rural
projects.
Why
don't
we
showcase
when
Charlotte
gets
it
gets
a
new
headquarters?
These
are
the
types
of
projects
that
happened
in
rural
areas
and
then
how
do
we
grow
that?
How
do
we
say?
Let's
get
creative
and
find
ways
to
say
when
we
get
a
new
tech
company
in
rural
areas,
we
deal
with
the
broadband
issue
things
we
know
they
care
about.
N
So
I
think
I
mentioned
that
to
say
if
we
can
do
one
thing
really:
well,
it's
continuing
to
repair
the
some
of
the
bridges
as
we
do
this
and
bridging
the
rural
urban
divide
and
continuing
to
do
that.
Finding
creative
ways
to
do
it
so
we'll
have
disagreements
and
differences,
but
I
think
there
are
some
things
that
we
can
all
be
united
on
and
I
think
we
have
the
next
month
to
solve.
N
B
What
I
think
is
a
good
charge
that
this
council
could
believe
in
and
and
work
with,
based
upon
the
feedback
that
we
got
at
the
retreat.
We
want
to
make
it
work,
however,
so
what
I
said
we
would
try
to
do
in
January
didn't
happen
today
is
February
the
3rd
and
I
want
to
say.
Thank
you
to
all
that
gave
me
some
grace
to
be
out
last
week
with
my
family.
It
was
truly
a
remarkable
experience.
If
you
haven't
seen
Gary
McFadden
do
a
eulogy.
You
have
missed
an
opportunity.
B
It's
pretty
amazing,
however,
aside
from
that,
we
also
talked
about
a
Citizens
Advisory
Committee
on
governance.
If
you
remember
two
years
ago,
at
the
election,
there
was
a
discussion
about
councils
terms,
salaries
and
a
number
of
other
things
and
I
can
made
a
commitment
to
several
of
you
that
we
would
have
a
committee
like
that.
That
would
be
a
Citizens
Committee
that
will
work
with
that,
we're
still
again
confirming
some
membership,
but
I
wanted
to
tell
you
that
we
have
confirmed
that
we
would
have
a
democratic
and
a
Republican
co-chair
of
that
committee.
B
B
The
mayor
and
city
council
terms
of
office,
including
length
of
terms,
as
well
as
a
method
of
implementation
for
their
recommendation
that
the
city,
mayor
and
city
council
should
be
full
or
part-time
position
and
they
related
compensation
for
those
positions
and
in
the
final
thing
that
we
committed
to
was
that
we
would
update
our
policy
guidelines
and
principles
for
city
council
redistricting.
That
will
result,
as
that
will
be
resulting
from
the
2020
census.
B
Given
the
level
of
public
interest
in
this
issue,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
committee
should
have
endeavor
to
complete
its
review
and
publicly
release
its
recommendations
and
an
appropriate
time
to
allow
ample
opportunity
for
substantial
public
engagement
and
discourse
for
the
potential
voter
ballot
initiative.
If
recommended
in
2021,
so
that's
where
we're
going
an
11-member
committee
and
the
focus
around
council
terms,
status,
full
or
part-time
compensation
and
as
well
as
our
redistricting
guidelines.
B
Many
of
you
know
that
we
haven't
done
redistricting
in
over
ten
years
for
the
council
districts
and
they,
the
original
rule,
was
10%
balance
of
population
between
and
we
don't
know
what
those
rules
are
going
to
be
now.
But
we
need
to
figure
out
in
advance
instead
of
doing
it
an
agreement
to
do
it
in
advance
with
citizen
participation.
So
that's
why
I
think
that
we
really
have
to
be
prepared
for
how
we're
going
to
do
the
redistricting,
even
though
the
council
will
do
the
actual
drawing
of
maps.
B
B
What
we
want
to
do
is
finish
when
we
have
the
census
data
and
the
principles.
If
it's
something
that
recommends
a
different
method
of
implementation,
it
could
be
a
lot
earlier
on
the
council.
It
depends.
You
know
the
council
could
actually
vote
to
change
our
own
status.
That's
a
timeline,
that's
shorter,
so
we
went
with
the
longer
time
so
that
they
would
have
a
finished
report
if
they
go
at
the
longest
term
of
if
their
recommendation,
it
requires
the
longer
methodology
for
time.
B
N
B
R
You're
not
saying
that
we
would
wait
until
we
have
the
census
information
to
I
mean
the
committee,
wouldn't
necessarily
have
to
wait
until
we
have
information
about
the
census.
We
just
want
to
do
guidelines
as
to
because
we
won't
have
that
information
for
18
months
so
guidelines
for
when
that
comes
out
would
be
part
of
it.
There's
two
different
two
different:
that's.
J
I
think
mr.
Graham's
initial
question
about
the
timeline
still
stands,
because
if
the
council
is
to
have
the
full
prerogative
deciding
about
those
recommendations,
especially
when
it
comes
to
terms,
we
know
that
there
is
a
calendar
that
we
have
to
keep
so
I.
Think
I
asked
mr.
Baker
to
form
us
of
what
that
calendar
is
because
if
it
does
go
the
referendum
route,
those
meetings
leading
up
to
getting
in
on
a
referendum
have
to
5:00
follow
a
certain
guideline.
So
what
is
the?
J
B
Was
suggesting
that
the
furthest
timeline
would
be
24,
20
21,
if
it's
going
to
be
that
the
council
makes
for
the
referendum.
If
the
council
wants
to
make
the
decision
differently,
you
could
have
they
could.
If
you
want
to
listen
to
what
the
committee
says
and
they
come
forward
and
say
you
could
do
it
in
2020,
then
there'd
be
a
different
time.
They
will
have
all
of
that
information
from
the
attorney
who
will
staff
this
committee
to
do
that.
Yeah.
K
B
If
we
want
to
put
if
you
want
to
do
that,
you
could
say
that
and
go
ahead
and
do
that.
I
think
that
one
of
the
questions
that
we've
had
is
that
the
council
has
taken
that
kind
of
idea
and
it
hasn't
been
able
to
work
because
we
haven't
had
citizens
advocating
and
pushing
and
examining
our
choices.
Now
the
council
wants
to
take
a
prerogative
and
put
it
on
for
the
2020
year
and
do
that
in
April.
That
would
be
up
to
them
up
to
you.
N
Well,
my
recommendation
would
be
to
could
still
have
a
potential
of
the
best
of
both
worlds
would
be.
This
committee
is
now
coming
together
and
there
I
like
the
approach
and
I
applaud
it.
All
we
have
to
do
is
lay
before
them
as
one
of
their
first
orders
of
business.
Here
is
the
hard
and
fast
timeline.
So
one
do
you
have
time
to
go
through
and
get
it
into
this
cycle?
So
so
literally,
they
say.
Alright.
N
Our
first
order
of
business
in
the
month
of
half
of
February
March
may
be
to
get
this
information
and
say:
can
we
make
a
decision
by
this
and,
if
so
hand
it
to
them
in
that
cycle
and,
if
not
so
that
way
at
least
the
options
there
but
I
think
putting
our
own
kind
of
you
know:
fabricated
timelines
on
them.
When
we
want
an
answer,
they
have
to
tell
us
they're
to.
J
N
N
R
N
R
Would
imagine
it'll
be
a
few
months,
but
I
don't
see
how
they're
gonna
I
don't
want
to
be
in
a
position
of
saying
we're.
Absolutely
gonna
do
a
referendum,
because
it
is
a
fact
that
we
could
just
decide
to
have
our
own
vote,
but
if
they
decide
that
that's
the
recommendation,
it's
almost
impossible
to
get
it
done
to
that
point
by
it.
This
April
it
would
push
it
to
the
next
day.
J
N
Challenge
is
regardless
of
how
we
got
here,
we're
here
right
now,
right
and
that's
I
mean
so.
If
it's
it's
either
one
of
two
approaches
you
either
keep
going
at
the
committee
approach
and
tell
them
that
if
this,
if
you're
gonna
go
this
route,
time
of
is
of
the
essence.
If
you
are
or
just
saying
the
committee's
no
longer
relevant
and
having
the
votes.