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From YouTube: Charlotte Zoning Committee Virtual Meeting - May 5, 2020
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Virtual meeting of the Charlotte Zoning Committee, from May 5, 2020. Thanks for joining us!
A
B
A
A
C
C
F
Just
really
quickly,
hello,
everybody
good
evening.
This
is
Terry,
heckler,
gray,
I'm
sitting
in
on
your
meeting
since
the
suit.
This
is
your
first
ever
virtual
zoning
committee
meeting
Dave
will
be
handling
the
meeting,
but
before
we
begin
I
want
it
to
just
briefly
tell
you
that
to
remind
you
that
you
will
be
streaming
on.
Facebook
live
in
YouTube,
so
keep
that
in
mind
as
you're
doing
whatever
you're
doing
in
your
home.
It
will
be,
it
will
be,
live
streamed.
F
Also,
if
there
are
any
chance,
I
see
you
Dave
if
there
are
any
chats
or
are
text
messages,
email
exchanges
that
go
on
during
the
meeting
that
will
be
public
records,
so
be
careful
about
communicating
with
your
fellow
commissioners
or
any
petitioners
or
agents
during
the
meeting,
because
that
will
be
public
record.
Also,
Sam
will
probably
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
this
before
the
meeting
begins,
but
every
vote
that
you
take
needs
to
be
a
roll
call
vote.
F
C
And
I
will
take
this
up
just
a
little
bit
when
you
all
have
to
vote.
It's
gonna
be
a
lot
quicker.
If
you
can
unmute
yourselves
and
vote
and
Tory
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
list
that
people
think
that
in
order
so
that
there's
a
little
bit
of
control
with
kind
of
like
we
do
with
Council
me
things,
yes
have
an
order.
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C
C
E
Hello,
everybody
thank
you
for
being
with
us
tonight.
This
is
the
May
5th
2020
meeting
of
the
Charlotte
Mecklenburg
Planning
Commission
and
zoning
committee.
Typically,
we
start
out
these
meetings
by
a
welcome
and
a
call
to
order.
I
am
Sam
Spencer
I
chair
the
zoning
committee
of
the
Planning
Commission,
as
well
as
the
full
commission
and
now
I
will
introduce
you
to
our
committee
members,
starting
with
our
Vice
Chair.
H
E
E
K
E
M
K
K
E
Thank
you
very
much,
so
just
so
everybody
knows.
The
public
hearing
on
the
rezoning
case
is
that
we're
reviewing
today
was
held
virtually
by
the
City
Council
and
the
zoning
committee.
This
meeting
is
not
a
continuation
of
the
public
hearing,
so
there
will
be
no
public
input.
Unless
the
committee
has
specific
questions
in
this
format
for
the
committee
to
ask
specific
questions
of
the
petitioner
or
anybody
else,
we
have
to
suspend
our
committee
rules
requires
a
five
out
of
seven
vote
of
the
zoning
committee.
B
E
G
E
B
B
K
The
request
is
to
rezone
a
portion
of
the
freedom
march
shopping
center
that
is
located
on
Freedom
Drive
from
the
shopping
center
district
to
general
business
and
distributive
business
in
order
to
accommodate
a
u-haul
truck
and
trailer
operation
with
many
storage
within
a
portion
of
the
existing
shopping
center,
the
site
is
surrounded
by
a
mix
of
retail
and
office
uses
along
Freedom
Drive
institutional
uses
such
as
Philip
Barry,
Academy
of
Technology
and
Valerie
Woodard
Center,
as
well
as
adjacent
residential
neighborhoods.
The
petitioner
has
addressed
all
of
the
outstanding
issues
on
the
site
plan.
K
However,
staff
does
not
recommend
approval
of
this
request,
which
is
inconsistent
with
the
Central
District
plan.
Recommendation
for
retail
uses,
the
plan
recommendation
and
the
rationale
and
the
post
hearing
staff
analysis
further
clarify
the
plan
recommendation
for
retail
uses
at
this
side
and
support
for
redeveloping
this
site
for
such
uses,
as
well
as
the
proposed
distributed
business
district,
which
is
more
in
alignment
with
hybrid
industrial
district.
So
staff
does
not
support
this
request
in
his
current
form.
Claire.
E
J
A
comment
mr.
wieners,
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
is
interesting
about
this
proposal
and
should
be
considered,
is
the
fact
that
it's
look
given
its
location
and
the
attraction
of
u-haul
by
entrepreneurs
who
have
a
need
for
storage
and
also
for,
like
many
offices,
I
can
attest
to
the
fact
that,
on
their
location
on
Sharon,
Road
West's,
what
I'm
thinking
about
it
takes
care
of
those
people
who
are
plumbers
and
landscape.
J
People
who
have
need
for
storage,
and
they
also-
and
these
people
may
want
to
do
this-
to
build
out
some
office
space
for
them
and
allow
them
to
park
and
rent
a
space
to
park
their
trucks.
So
they
don't
have
to
write
them
all
over
creations.
I
think
that
the
location
is
such
that
it
opens
up
a
great
deal
of
business
for
these
entrepreneurs
on
the
northwest
side
and
in
central
Charlotte.
E
Thank
you,
Thank
You,
Commissioner
Wiggins,
for
your
comments.
Are
there
any
other
comments?
Questions
concerns,
I,
believe
everybody
who
is
on
the
committee
currently
was
here
at
the
last
meeting,
except
for
our
newest
member
of
the
zoning
committee.
Peter
Kelly,
so
Pete,
especially
if
you
have
any
questions
for
the
petitioner
or
staff
I,
definitely
give
you
the
chance,
since
the
rest
of
us
have
already
been
through
this
one.
P
Know
mr.
chairman,
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
use
and
I
do
think
that
there's
only
so
many
things
we
can
do
in
this
area
and,
as
Nancy
said,
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
have
some
space
for
you
all
and
other
storage
and
I
again
I'm
with
Pete
on
that.
Well
they'll
focus
on
a
retail
and
we
haven't
seen
it
if
that
space
has
been
there
a
long
time
so
I'm
in
favor.
E
A
B
You'll
have
to
you
guys
will
have
to
come
up
with
a
approval
consistency
statement.
We've
got
a
recommendation,
the
consistency
statement
or
non
approval.
Yes,
if
you
have
your
script
for
those
two
items
for
the
difference
between,
so
you
can
pull
that
up
and
develop
the
consistency.
Payment
to
approve
I
can't.
E
E
P
E
A
J
E
So
by
the
chair
is
reading,
the
motion
carries
six
to
one
to
approve
and
to
recommend
the
affirmation
statement
of
consistency
adopted
by
the
City
Council's.
My
minority
statement
for
this
petition
is
simple:
I
will
incorporate
staffs
recommendation
to
recommend
denial
as
well
as
the
staff
rationale.
E
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
commissioners
that
moves
us
and
please,
unless
you
are
recognized-
and
you
are
not
a
member
of
the
committee
or
staff-
please
do
not
speak.
You
must
be
recognized
by
the
Commission
to
be
able
to
speak.
Please
wait
that
moves
us
on
to
our
next
zoning
item.
Rezoning
petition,
2019
1
to
6
by
Harrison,
Tucker
and
the
staff
resources
will.
O
Great,
so
this
is
a
petition
to
rezone
approximately
four
tenths
of
an
acre
along
East
17th
and
North
Davidson
Street,
locating
optimist,
Park
community
Kearns
owners
are
eight
zoning.
Is
you
are
I'd
like
to
point
out
that,
in
the
requests
on
the
staff
analysis
says
with
five
your
vested
rights?
We
can
work
through
that?
That's
that
was
an
outstanding
issue,
that's
been
addressed
and
they
have
removed
that
request.
O
As
far
as
the
site
plan
is
concerned,
again,
sixteen
Welling
units
not
exceeding
40
feet
height,
committing
to
some
more
contextual
standards,
also
commenced
to
providing
an
8
foot
planning
strip
inside
walk
along
the
property's,
fairly
narrow
of
frontage
long
more
types
of
street.
It
also
commits
to
at
least
one
affordable
housing
unit.
O
The
petition
is
inconsistent
with
the
Parkwood
transit
station
area
plans,
recommendation
more
residential
uses,
212
gua
from
the
site.
However,
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
petition
upon
resolution
of
outstanding
issues
related
to
transportation.
I
will,
as
a
caveat
here,
you
know,
between
Friday,
when
this
was
created
and
probably
this
morning,
C
dot
and
the
petitioner
have
resolved
on
all
outstanding
issues
related
to
transportation,
outlet
Felix
way
in
after
I
finished
my
report
to
confirm
that
fact.
But
yes,
staff
recommends
approval
on
the
petition,
get
some
density
close
to
Tod.
E
O
H
O
L
D
Dan,
this
is
Pete
Kelly,
Hey
I'm
concerned
about
this,
forcing
displacement,
we're
increasing
density
in
a
neighborhood
violating
the
Parkwood
transit
area,
which
was
intended
to
keep
this
portable
and
we're
putting
in
high-density
high
value
property.
This
seems
to
be
accelerating
gentrification
of
a
neighborhood
that
is
historically
an
already
and
close
to
the
blue
line.
I
in
Shu
is
less
about
density,
although
it
is
above
recommended
amount.
D
J
E
D
E
H
E
The
other
one
please,
the
other
I,
can
only
see
one
okay
I
put
on
putting
the
usual
one
that
we
use
in
the
chat
on
really
quick
just
so
we
so
everybody
has
a
copy
of
this.
It
is.
This
is
the
how
we
make
the
motion
when
we
have
something
where
we're
following
the
staff
recommendation.
I
just
put
it
in
the
chat.
If
you
want
to
look
at
it
well,.
J
J
I'm
getting
all
confused
now,
however,
we
find
the
petition
to
be
reasonable
and
in
the
public
interest
based
on
the
information
from
the
staff
analysis,
the
public
hearing,
oh
I,
see
what
you
say:
I'm
sorry,
the
petition
will
be
will
provide
a
dense
housing
project
in
a
walkable
location.
Only
three
tenths
of
a
mile
from
the
park
would
station.
This
petition
achieves
the
ele
transit
station
area
plans
overall,
in
is
that
youth
goal
of
the
comma
dating
higher
density
uses.
J
Oh
gosh,
that's
for
various
transportation
systems
throughout
the
corridor,
while
protecting
the
residential
fabric
of
the
residential
neighborhoods
and
by
providing
the
opportunity
for
housing
choices.
The
fabric
of
the
residential
neighborhood
means
intact.
As
this
is
this
petition,
if
constructed,
will
be
developed
on
vacant
land
and
does
not
require
the
demolition
of
existing
single-family
homes.
Housing
choice
is
further
enhanced
by
optimist
Park
throughout
the
creation
of
the
new
multifamily
units.
In
the
addition
of
one
affordable
unit,
the
petitions
request
and
maximum
height
of
forty
feet
matches
the
by
right,
height
and
surrounding
r8.
J
Zoning
for
single-family
parcels
that
the
desired
height
noted
in
the
park
would
transit
station
area
plan.
The
request
closely
matches
the
previous
approved
petition
in
2018
zero.
One
two,
both
in
density,
have
no
time
the
petition
commits
to
providing
at
least
one
affordable
housing
unit
under
the
Federal
Housing
Choice
Voucher
program
do
I
need
to
read
any
more.
E
E
Future
for
future
motions
to
approval
tonight.
Can
we
plead
it's
it's
in
the
chat,
but
if
you
can't
see
it
the
the
way
that
we're
moving
on
these
now,
it's
to
say
the
following
motion.
Having
reviewed
the
petition
and
considered
the
consistency
statement
prepared
by
staff
to
approve
his
petition,
we
recommend
approval
of
the
petition
number
as
it
appears
before
us
and
the
adoption
of
the
consistency
statement
as
it
appears
before
us,
and
that's
so.
We
don't
have
to
read
out
the
entire
okay.
J
E
E
D
B
I'm
going
to
jump
that
and
just
run
this
one
through
this
is
one
that
we
put
together
just
from
a
department
standpoint,
20
20
36
is
just
a
little
over
a
half
acre
iOS
to
peak
on
Avenue,
just
north
of
Independence.
It's
an
area
of
property
that
was
once
d-o-t
right-of-way.
That's
been
absorbed
back
to
two
pieces
of
property
that
are
currently
zoned,
b-two
ped,
so
we've
had
some
other
cases
in
this
area.
B
Over
the
last,
you
know,
eight
to
nine
years
that
have
come
up
with
the
same
issue
where
there's
no
zoning
after
the
property's
been
turned
back
over
from
NCDOT.
So
this
is
really
just
a
request
by
the
department
to
assign
the
same
zoning
district
to
the
entirety
of
these
two
properties
back
to
the
b2
ped
and
get
it
out
of
that
kind
of
nose,
no-man's
land
of
not
having
any
zoning
on
it
so
fairly,
straightforward
request.
B
Staff
does
recommend
approval,
it's
conventional
request:
the
overlay
will
be
applied
to
this
property
as
well,
so
it'll
be
consistent
and
the
redevelopment
of
this
shopping
center
can
kind
of
all
have
a
unified
zoning
district.
To
do
that.
Under
with
this,
our
rezoning
request
that
the
city
is
making
just
to
get
that
on
zone
area
back
to
p2
pets,
so
yeah
better
take
any
questions,
but
it
gets
fairly
fairly
straightforward
on
this
one.
E
H
B
That
so
this
is
not
city-owned
property
work,
we're
just
doing
the
petition
as
it's
consistently
how
we've
addressed
these
persons
are
right
away
that
are
back
in.
There
was
a
property
just
across
from
this
that
was
developed
into
some
mints
back
in
2015,
or
maybe
seven
to
be
with
the
sponsor
for
the
rezoning.
So
we
just
answered
the
rezoning
it's
still
owned
by
the
Maggiore,
that
property
or
that
producer,
no
no
developer,
so
we
don't
own
it
our
just.
Do
it
we're
just
the
applicant?
No.
E
E
Thank
you
having
been
moved
and
properly
seconded.
Is
there
any
additional
discussion
or
debate
hearing
none?
The
chair
moves
to
the
vote.
Gusman
permanent
Pam
permit
is
Kelly
affirmative
was--,
again
Arminius
watkins,
a
five-minute
Wiggins
affirmative
and
the
chair
votes
yes,
and
we've
been
informed
by
council
that
you
can
just
say
I
or
yes,
affirmative
is
a
word
that
is
too
long.
The
motion
carries
seven
to
zero
and
that
will
move
us
to
our
next
petition.
We
are
moving
on
to
you,
2019
176,
by
Charlotte,
Douglas,
International,
Airport
and
Lisa.
Is
our
staff
resource.
I
Thank
you.
This
petition
is
located
on
the
east
side,
Steele
Creek
Road,
south
of
Byron
Drive
and
West
Boulevard.
It's
approximately
78,
0.68
acres.
The
current
zoning
of
the
property
is
r3.
The
airport
noise
overlay,
the
proposed
zoning
is
general
industrials,
I
airport
noise
overlay.
This
is
conventional
petition.
I
There's
no
associated
site
plan
attached
to
it
and
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
petition.
The
petition
is
consistent
reports
on
the
site
for
the
Westside
strategic
plan.
Recommendation
for
office,
Business
Park
industrial
land
uses,
but
it's
inconsistent
with
the
institutional
land
use
recommendation
for
the
remaining
portion
of
the
site.
E
E
H
E
F
O
Half
acres
located
3,000
North,
Tryon
Street,
just
west
of
this
intersection
with
36th
Street.
The
petition
proposes
to
rezone
a
parcel
from
an
industrial
zoning
district
to
conventional
transit,
oriented
development
district
2d,
you
see
which
would
allow
the
side
to
be
developed,
but
with
a
mixture
use
is
permitted
by
Wright
or
through
prescribed
conditions.
O
The
there
naturally
there's
no
cyclin,
and
so
there's
nothing
to
share
there.
The
petition
is
inconsistent
with
the
North
Area
or
trying
area
plans
recommendation
for
office
retail
uses
for
the
site.
However,
staff
recommends
approval.
This
petition,
as
it
is
around
a
half
a
mile
from
the
36th
Street
Station
Tod,
is
working
to
ordinance
appropriate
zoning
designation
for
this.
This
piece
of
property
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
E
E
E
I
Thank
you.
This
petition
is
located
on
the
south
side
of
Tuckasegee
Road,
east
of
gaston
street
and
west
of
Carey
Dale
Avenue.
The
request
is
to
go
to
you
are
CCD
from
r3
or
from
r5.
Sorry,
since
the
public
hearing
they
have
addressed
the
comment
of
having
office
uses
removed
as
a
note
on
the
site,
the
request
is
to
allow
a
church
to
operate
a
daycare
on
on
the
parcel.
Although
currently
r5
a
does
allow
daycares
its
accessory
used
since
the
church
won't
be
the
operator
of
this
particular
facility.
I
They
have
to
go
through
a
rezoning
to
a
commercial
district
to
be
able
to
allow
this
type
of
use
on
the
property,
but
the
church
is
going
to
remain
there.
The
only
thing
that's
really
changing
on
the
site
is
the
addition
of
a
daycare
center
and
one
beach
system.
Buildings
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
petition.
The
petition
is
inconsistent
with
the
Central
District
plan
and
use
from
site
of
single-family
up
to
5
units
per
acre.
E
A
E
E
O
Thank
you.
This
is
approximately
a
half
acre
located
at
1
1.
What
a
park
would
Jason
Pegram
in
the
Belmont
neighborhood
edition
is
proposing
to
conditionally
rezone
two
vacant
parcels
at
that
corner
to
allow
for
the
construction
of
a
multi-family
structure
with
up
to
17
units
resulting
in
a
dua
of
33.5.
O
Far
as
request
details
of
site
plan
details,
this
petition
is
committing
to
at
least
three
affordable
rate
units.
Maximum
height
of
42
feet
also
is
committing
and
I
think
this
is
in
conjunction
with
you
know.
Some
of
the
community
wants
and
desires
commits
to
running
an
increment
in
ground
swing
to
the
location
of
the
cats
waiting
pad,
which
is
similarly
designed
to
others.
Places
in
the
Belmont
community
also
commits
to
multiple
architectural
standards.
O
The
petition
is
inconsistent
with
the
Belmont
Area
revitalization
plans.
Recommendation
for
multifamily
uses
up
to
22
drawing
units
per
acre
staff
does
recommend
approval
in
this
petition
upon
route
resolution
of
requested
technical
revisions,
which
are
which,
if
they
have
agreed
to
and
really
those
technical
revisions,
are
just
to
button
up.
Some
commitments
that
exist,
but
just
just
a
little
cleaning
before
it
goes
to
decision,
is
really
what
those
those
are
for.
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
on
this
petition.
B
Sorry,
just
like
terrified
couple
things
just
from
staffs
and
we
did
have
some
questions
on
some
items
on
this
petition
at
the
hearing
that
have
been
addressed,
mainly
the
connectivity
from
this
piece
to
the
adjoining
piece
dress,
and
there
was
some
issues
with
the
fencing
that
we've
gotten
the
commitment
for
them
to
address
prior
to
decision,
so
that
may
still
show
up
in
the
staff
analysis.
But
it's
just
some
conversations
we've
had
or
the
last
week,
or
so
just
to
try
and
get
some
of
those
things
buttoned
up
like
will.
B
It
said
everything
seems
to
be
in
in
good
order
and
what
we've
gotten
from
the
petitioner
and
their
development
team
is
really
like.
We
said
addressed
the
items
that
came
up
during
the
public
hearing,
so
we
feel,
like
everything,
should
be
cleaned
up
as
well
said
and
buttoned
up
for
that
decision,
that,
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
thanks.
P
Know
that
they
were
talking
about
some
of
the
connectivity
and
there's
been
a
big
issue
for
us
and
we're
gonna
do
some
of
the
fencing
and
some
of
the
amenities.
But
I
was
really
interested
in
the
connectivity
between
those
states.
Those
that
part
those
parcels
there
to
make
sure
that
that
was
going
to
be
convenient
for
the
people
who,
in
another
distraction
for
those
that
are
living
there.
O
O
J
E
J
E
E
G
E
H
And
just
to
speak
to
that
that
Belmont
area
revitalization
plan
went
through
before
a
number
of
things
have
changed
as
well,
including
a
road
diet
on
Park
wood
and
the
Blue
Line
station
coming
open
just
less
than
a
mile
away.
This
is
a
street
that
I
expect
is
going
to
be
going
through
quite
a
few
different
changes
just
on
to
it
and
some
other
reasons
that
are
on
the
docket.
D
E
L
Sorry
this
is
stealing
somewhere
in
my
own
microphone.
Yes,
the
the
Parkwood
project
is
asking
to
provide
traffic
calming
they're
going
to
install
book
for
bike
lanes
and
what
that's
going
to
do
is
it's
gonna,
provide
travel
calming
they're,
also
going
to
provide
some
additional
petition
improvements
in
the
air
it
easier
for
patients
across
the
road,
so
the
so
the
the
short
answer
is
yes,
the
parker
project
is
going
to
provide
on
traffic
calming
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
are
out
there.
J
Mr.
chairman,
yes,
ma'am
I
would
like
to
just
ask
again.
This
is
not
something
that's
going
to
make
my
rest
attention
if
they
could
possibly
put
in
a
crosswalk
there,
because
there
are
so
many
units
across
from
probably
what
will
be
a
bus
stop
or
an
area
where
someone
would
catch
the
bus.
It
would
be
helpful.
E
E
L
E
I
having
been
properly
moved
in
second,
is
there
any
additional
discussion
or
debate
hearing
none.
The
chair
moves
to
the
vote.
Gusman?
Yes,
ma'am!
Yes,
Nelly!
Yes,
okay,
yes,
Watkins,
yes,
Wiggins,
yes
and
turbos.
Yes,
that
is
a
seven
to
zero
vote
that
is
going
to
move
us
to
our
next
petition
of
the
night
that
is
2019
one
one:
five
by
Northland
Development
LLC,
also
known
as
Valentine
reimagined
John.
M
450
for
a
KERS
south
of
I-40,
five
at
Johnston
Road,
proposing
to
rezone
large
area,
that's
mix
of
BP
CD
Business
Park
conditional,
oh
three
office
conditional
and
going
to
proposed
zoning
of
mud,
Oh,
mixed-use
development,
option,
'l
or
five-year
vested
rice.
This
is
the
basically
Ballentine
Corporate
Park
and
the
resort
golf
course
that
is
there
basically
to
urbanize
the
area
to
be
a
more
in
line
with
what
you
might
see
at
a
transit
station
area
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
petition
upon
a
resolution
of
that's
alright,
no
that's
actually
been
addressed.
M
The
petitioner
has
been,
as
I
said,
continue
to
work
on
all
the
outstanding
issues.
I
think
you
all
hopefully
received
a
letter
from
the
petitioners
agent
Jeff
Brown,
addressing
some
of
the
things
that
were
brought
up
at
the
hearing
about
the
schools
I'm,
not
really
somebody
that
could
answer
any
additional
questions.
M
E
Thank
you
John
to
ask
two
things
on
this
petition
number
one.
If
you're,
not
speaking,
please
meet
your
phones
and
number
one
number
two
since
I
know
a
lot
of
folks
want
to
speak
on
this
petition.
What
I'm
going
to
do
to
keep
it
fair
and
keep
it
moving
along?
Is
that
I'm
going
to
go
down
the
line
based
on
our
order,
so
Philip
I'll?
Let
you
speak
first
or
you
can
just
pass?
If
you
don't
have
any
comments.
H
Sure
I
have
some
well
I
think
that
most
of
this
plan
is
exactly
what
we
need
to
see
in
the
organization
of
that
part
of
our
city.
I
am
I
am
concerned
about
the
honestly
that
we
still
have
such
a
amount
of
concern
as
being
shown
by
on
the
school
side
on
the
CMS
side,
I
would
really
like
to
have
seen
more
of
that
resolved
with
a
little
bit
more
of
a
more
clear
plan
of
everyone
in
agreement.
H
D
I'm
in
support
of
his
plan
think
the
issues
around
the
schooling
or
legitimate,
but
I
think
he
should
have
been
taking
care
of
earlier
and
their
broader
Ballantyne
pace
was
planned.
An
additional
land
was
set
aside
and
subsequently
sold
by
the
school
board.
I'm,
not
sure
we
should
be
holding
this
type
of
land
accountable
for
set-aside
schools.
G
You
have
a
few
comments.
I
do
think
that
this
is
a
good
plan,
all
in
all
yeah,
but
in
my
opinion
you
have
to
kind
of
wait.
The
burden
with
the
benefits
and
I
do
respect
the
fact
that
this
is
controlled
by
by
one
owner
and
it
will
be
a
holistic
plan
and
not
just
ad
hoc
redevelopment
in
such
a
large
area
in
the
Ballentine.
A
community
I
am
also
happy
to
see
that
transit
is
moving
forward
and
there's
a
you
know.
G
Potential
for
three
stops
still
need
funding,
but
at
least
we're
in
the
2030
plan
right
now,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
pluses
for
transportation.
I
do
think.
Of
course,
the
the
neighborhoods
are
so
worried
about
transportation.
I
think
that's
an
issue
that
we'll
have
to
continue,
but
I
do
think
that
the
petitioner
has
been
a
champion
in
that
area.
The
other
issue.
Now
that
has
come
up
our
schools.
G
Of
course,
you
know:
I
have
students
in
the
Ballentine
area
and
and
overcrowding
is
always
an
issue,
is
something
that
even
I've
advocated
in
my
different
roles
for
the
balance
on
community
but
I
will
say:
I
do
think
that
we
have
a
lot
of
progress
in
that
area.
We
we
do
have
funding.
We
already
have
funding
from
various
bond
initiatives
for
highschool
that
will
relieve
some
pressure.
G
We
have
reef
arm
starting,
you
know,
actually
this
year
coming
up
and
that
should
relieve
some
pressure,
and
at
least
my
kids
school,
the
elementary
school
and
also
on
the
middle
school,
and
then
you
know,
there's
a
purchase
of
the
land
across
from
our
jerk
ale.
That's
been
purchased
so
I
just
think.
We
need
to
continue
this
narrative.
There
is
a
problem.
G
G
My
main
concern
would
be
I
do
know
that
that
Northwood
has
kind
of
stated
that
they've
kind
of
offered
you
know
land
in
the
past
and
and
getting
some
information
by
a
chairwoman
you
for
the
school
board,
saying
that
maybe
small
concessions
could
be
made.
You
know
maybe
just
some
some
floors
and
an
office
building,
knowing
that
those
smaller
conversations
are
happening
and
continue
to
happen
and
and
I
do
hope.
That
North
would
contain
those
conversation.
Then
that
will
put
me
in
a
good
place
with
this
I
I.
G
Don't
think
we
can
ask
a
developer
to
give
36
acres
of
land,
but
I
also
think
that
you
know
that
the
conversations
that
are
happening
if
we
can
continue
those
it
will
help
move
the
ball
forward.
So
I'm
right
now,
I
am
you
know,
I'm
I,
won't,
say
I'm
thrilled
with
the
school
situation
here,
but
I
do
see
that
we're
making
a
bit
of
progress
down
here
and
I
just
really
hope
that
North,
what
continues
to
be
a
player
for
for
us
and
and
an
advocate
advocate
with
us
in
the
community
Thank.
P
Okay
right,
yes,
I,
have
to
agree
with
my
fellow
commissioner,
I
just
speak
with
German
at
least
a
shoe
about
this
issue,
and
one
thing
that
I
seem
to
come
together
is
that
this
is
a
bigger
conversation
than
zoning.
This
is
a
policy
issue
where
all
of
our
divisions
of
government
are
gonna,
have
to
get
together
and
deal
with
the
school
system,
because
this
is
across
Mecklenburg
County
and
to
kind
of
it
she
certainly
picked
a
venue
that
was
going
to
get
some
attention
and
start
some
conversation.
P
But
my
concern
is
the
policy
aspect
and
the
precedents
that
we
set.
What
we
do
does
not
go
without
merit
and
I
think
that
if
builders
are
interested
in
assisting
and
donating
and
getting
in
this
conversation,
that's
fine,
but
for
us
to
make
it
a
condition
of
whether
we
support
or
deny
I
think
that
makes
it
difficult.
Because
now
we
have
set
precedents
that
will
be
carried
across
the
line.
Otherwise
it's
it
won't
be
fair,
so
I
did
speak
with
her
and
I
did
tell
her
that.
P
To
me
this
was
a
great
conversation,
but
it
wasn't
one
that
could
just
hinge.
I.
Believe
on
just
how
he's
owned
a
parcel
of
property
and
I
think
that
this
is
consistent
with
it.
What
is
already
going
on
in
the
area
so
I,
don't
think
it's
a
detractor
by
any
means
so
I'm
in
favor
of
it,
but
I
do
believe
that
the
conversation
now
is
on
everybody's
bonus
to
get
together
and
see
what
we
can
do
for
all
the
children
in
Mecklenburg
County.
P
J
J
Unfortunately,
for
Charlotte,
the
landowners
had
some
good
rental
out
there
and
some
plenty
of
land
when
we
hit
a
snag
as
far
as
development
nationwide
because
of
a
recession
and
because
they
had
had
the
foresight
that
they
had
and
uncertain
times.
Charlotte
was
able
to
attract
a
number
of
national
and
international
headquarters
to
the
Ballentine
area,
because
it
was
the
only
game
in
town
and
I
think
that
that,
in
these
uncertain
times,
that
may
also
be
a
factor.
So
I
am
in
favor
of
it.
E
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
Nancy.
So
that
brings
it
to
me.
So
a
couple
of
things
I
want
to
hit
on
here
number
one
I
I'm
going
to
vote
against
this
tonight.
I
has
a
zoning
committee.
There
are
two
things
that
we're
able
to
consider
when
we
make
land-use
decisions
for
the
City
of
Charlotte
number.
One
is
the
consistency
with
adopted
area
plans
and
number
two
is
the
adequacy
of
public
facilities,
which
include
water,
roads,
traffic
parks
and,
of
course,
schools.
So,
where
I
come
down,
is
this?
E
You
know
I'm
somebody
who
comes
from
a
background
where,
when
I
was
in
fifth
grade,
I
was
in
a
50
kid
classroom.
I
think
that
school
overcrowding
is
definitely
an
issue
that
is
important
for
us
to
consider,
and
while
we
don't
consider
school
overcrowding
when
we're
doing
a
two
acre
three
acre
rezoning,
we
have
set
a
precedent
in
Charlotte
that
it
is
something
that
we
consider
on
bigger
rezoning
that
we
know
are
going
to
create
a
lot
of
students.
E
We
put
in
that
consistency
statement
that
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
as
a
Planning
Commission
voted
for
it
was
that,
because
there
was
a
commitment
to
future
public
school
facility
needs,
that
was
in
the
consistency
statement
that
was
passed
by
zoning
committee
and
approved
by
the
City
Council.
So
we've
debated
internally
on
Planning
Commission
and
we've
talked
to
the
Charlie
Mecklenburg
Schools,
about
where
the
line
should
be
we're,
considering
adequate
school
facilities.
E
We
know
that
wherever
that
line
is
a
project,
this
big
has
to
be
on
the
side
of
the
line
where
we
take
all
adequate
facilities
into
consideration,
and
that
includes
that
includes
our
schools.
We
are
not
allowed
to
consider
affordable
housing
when
we
make
zoning
decisions,
whether
or
not
you
believe
we
should.
We
are
not
allowed
to
to
consider
affordable
housing
in
conditional
rezoning
as
part
of
our
land
use
decision.
E
The
plan
for
this
project
as
it
stands
doesn't
hold
that
to
the
same
standard
where
we
would
have
a
consideration
of
future
public
school
needs.
So
that
is
why
I'm
voting
against
this
and
I
do
want
to
clear
by
you
know
this.
This
also
isn't
a
choice.
I
think
there's
been
a
dichotomy
that,
in
my
view,
is,
is
not
correct.
That
has
been
presented
that
this
is
the
choice
between
you
know:
a
developer,
giving
35
acres
of
land
and
a
developer,
giving
nothing
to
the
schools
I.
E
Don't
think
that
that's
true
I
do
think
that
there's
there's
something
that
could
be
done
with
this
petition
that
prepares
better
for
future
public
school
needs.
When
we
do
something
this
big,
we
should
and
that's
why
I'm
voting
against.
Are
there
any
other
comments
or
questions
from
the
zoning
committee.
H
Yes,
just
Phil,
Gusman
and
I
appreciate
that
the
conversations
are
being
had,
and
one
of
the
things
in
my
couple
years
now
on
the
zoning
committee
that
had
kept
people
have
asked
me
is
is
well
you
didn't
do
anything
about
the
schools
for
that
one.
When
is
it
too
big?
What
is
that
line,
and
we
bumped
into
one
where
I
look
at
it?
That's
behind
or
it's
over
the
line
at
the
very
least
and
I'm
not
pushing
for
the
initial
thing.
H
I
know
the
thirty
acres
or
whatever
I
think
we
just
CMS,
and
this
developer
needs
to
come
to
a
little
bit.
Better
compromise
is
really
what
I'm
looking
for,
and
yes,
it
really
should
have
been
done
before
this
and
I'm
just
I'm
tired
of
voting
on
these
things.
Assuming
a
lot
of
this
stuff
is
gonna,
get
worked
out
honestly,
and
this
is
one
that's
too
big
to
get
wrong.
I
think.
J
Chairman
before
we
get
there,
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
we
have
to
be
sensitive
to
in
the
Valentine
area
about
schools.
Is
there
are
a
number
of
private
schools
in
the
area
that
take
some
of
the
overcrowding
burden
off
the
pub
of
CMS,
and
it's
just
a
comment,
but
there
are
quite
a
few,
so
I
just
thought.
I
would
make
that
remark.
A
This
is
commissioner
ham.
I
do
have
a
question,
yes
sure
so,
Phillip
and
Sam
I
know
that
there
was
some
information
provided
back
as
it
relates
to
the
schools
and
the
overcrowding.
Are
you
open
or
is
it
possible?
Maybe
we
can
kind
of
see
if
we
can
facilitate
a
broader
discussion
with
CMS
and
maybe
have
them
come
back
with
the
petitioner
and
maybe
present
some
more
information
to
us
that
might
give
you
a
little
more
comfort
in
the
petition.
I
would
be.
E
P
Yes,
ma'am
I
think
the
petitioner
has
gone
a
lot
when
we
defer
things.
I
think
that
it
should
be
because
they
have
not
met
our
land
use.
I
do
not
believe
this
project
does
not
meet
that
land
use
what
we
would
be
deferring
for
its
policy
issues
and
negotiation
and
networking
I
think
that's
going
to
best.
You
go
on
behind
us
and
outside
of
us
not
and
I,
don't
see
where
this
falls
under
our
purview
of
land,
use
and
I.
P
Think
it's
it's
for
me,
a
slippery
slope
to
look
at
schools
and
all
most
of
our
schools
are
overcrowded
greater
than
130,
plus
percent
and
I.
Don't
see
that
going
down
so
I
think
that
we
set
a
precedence
here
tonight
for
deferral,
I,
think
that's
going
to
be
a
loud
statement
and
policies
will
have
to
change
to
make
a
difference
in
this,
and
people
will
have
to
come
to
the
table
which
we
cannot
negotiate
so
for
me,
I
believe
we
should
stick
with
what
our
our
mandate
is
and
the
land
use.
P
If
this
is
not
a
good
use
of
land
and
we
should
vote
no,
if
it
is
a
good
use,
then
I
think
we
should
vote
yes.
Should
there
be
a
further
discussion
absolutely
and
it
shouldn't
have
been
tonight,
it
shouldn't
have
come
down
to
this.
We
should
have
been
having
these
discussions
all
along,
because
the
issue
it's
always
existed
has
existed
for
a
long
time,
so
for
me,
I
would
not
be
in
favor
of
deferral.
For
that
reason,.
E
J
Too,
am
in
favor
of
this
in
this
for
this
project
to
go
forward,
but
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
I
think
that,
given
this
the
nature
of
our
times
right
now
that
serious
consideration
has
to
be
given
to
the
potential
of
money,
and
all
of
this
that's
available
to
to
have
this
project
move
forward
and
I
I.
Don't
have
not
been
told
by
the
petitioner
that
that
is
a
time-sensitive
issue.
J
But
my
experience
in
commercial
real
estate
since
1984
suggests
that
it
could
be
and
I
think
that
it's
unreasonable
to
burden
this
petitioner
with
the
school
issue
at
this
time
so
I'm
in
favor
of
having
it
but
because
I
don't
have
the
proper
thing
to
read.
For
asking
for
approval
of
this
petition.
I
would
like
to
defer
to
someone
else
to
do
the
reading
and
I
would
like
to
be
the
second.
D
That
mrs.
P
yeah
I
think
we
all
agree
that
the
schools
were
important
and
it's
a
problem
in
Mecklenburg,
County
I'm,
not
sure
it's
a
fair
analogy.
You
compare
the
river
district
to
this
redevelopment.
One
was
a
Greenfield
literally.
This
one
is
going
into
a
pre-existing
complex
that
had
already
been
allocated
to
the
business
side
and
further
increasing
the
density
aligned
with
our
strategies
as
a
city-
oh
it
to
me.
These
are
different
problems,
though
I'm
not
sure
the
precedent
from
the
river
district
should
apply.
E
So
my
and
I
appreciate
that
and
that's
something
I've
talked
about
with
both
the
petitioner
and
the
the
chair
of
the
school
board.
I
do
think
that
you
know
are
what
we're
determining
here
is
our
ordinates
as
a
City
Council
and
a
zoning
committee.
You
know,
as
I
said
earlier,
we
we
consider
two
things.
We
consider
planned
consistency
if
the
land
use
decision
is
consistent
with
the
plan
and
our
our
charge
has
us
consider
whether
or
not
there's
the
adequacy
of
public
facilities.
E
E
J
P
P
P
E
H
K
E
E
H
E
K
2019
one
eight
three
consists
of
approximately
0.2
for
one
acres
and
is
located
on
the
west
side
of
the
plaza
north
of
Commonwealth
Avenue.
The
petitioner
is
Rhino
partners,
coffee,
LLC,
and
the
request
is
for
general
business,
but
the
pet
overlay
optional
request
to
allow
all
uses,
as
well
as
a
reduction
in
the
parking
requirements
for
an
existing
two-story
building
that
is
currently
used
as
a
restaurant
located
in
the
Plaza
Midwood
business
community.
K
H
Comment
for
me,
though
this
is
this:
is
our
old
sushi
place,
but
an
adaptation
and
reuse
of
a
building
that
was
just
built
so
well
it's
most
of
our
most
of
the
readapted
reuses.
I
support
are
for
very
old
buildings.
This
one's
brand
new.
It
really
is
adjusting
the
parking
requirements
to
more
to
the
line
with
a
mostly
walk-up
coffee
bar
I'm,
in
support
of
it
and
I'll
make
the
motion.
If
no
one
else
has
comment
all.
E
P
E
E
J
M
Right,
can
you
hear
me
any
better
now?
Yes,
this
is
approximately
4.12
acres
located
on
the
northeast
corner
of
tavola
and
Wedgwood.
It
is
a
conventional
petition
going
from
our
for
single-family
residential
to
institutional
again,
the
site
plan.
With
this
petition
it
would
allow
all
uses
in
the
institutional
zoning
district.
The
plan,
the
Park
Woodlawn
area
plan,
does
recommend
a
residential
development
up
to
eight
units
per
acre.
So
this
would
be
inconsistent
with
the
area
plan,
but
area
plans
don't
typically
recommend
locations
for
future
and
institutional
uses.
Staff
recommends
approval
all.
E
A
A
E
H
E
I
I
The
petition
proposes
to
develop
the
site
with
133
townhome
units,
the
density
of
11.6
dwelling
units
per
acre
since
the
public
hearing.
They
have
addressed
the
majority
of
the
issues
and
actually,
since
the
staff
reports
come
out,
they
have
addressed
the
outstanding
urban
forestry
comment,
that
is
in
the
staff
analysis.
So
they
have.
You
know:
they've
changed
a
change
of
site
plan
and
we're
able
to
address
all
staff
comments
at
this
point,
so
we
recommend
approval
of
this
petition.
I
H
H
A
I
D
B
B
There
was
a
question
about
sidewalks
and
they
would
response
was
that
they
would
locate
the
sidewalk
on
Second
Avenue
at
the
top
of
the
hill.
The
petitioner
also
stated
they
would
work
with
staff
to
see
if
that
could
be
accomplished.
There's
some
question
about
some
of
the
larger
units
that
would
be
approximately
2,000
square
feet.
Approximately
2,600
square
feet
of
floor
area,
smaller
unit
to
be
about
1600
square
feet
about
2,200
square
feet.
Just
talked
about
the
different
sizes
of
the
units.
B
Some
may
have
an
optional
fourth
floor
with
a
rooftop
terrace
on
them,
and
they
mentioned
that
the
town
name.
You
know
7
mix
of
exterior
building
materials,
but
no
vinyl,
siding
and
also,
let's
stated
that
they
would
be
more
traditional,
as
opposed
to
more
of
an
urban
look
for
the
townhome,
so
they
would
be
a
little
bit
more.
The
traditional
style
looks
like
there
were
some
questions
again
about
sidewalks,
whether
they
would
be
public
and
that
the
answer
was
that
they
would
be
located
at
a
public
right
away
or
they
never
publicly
questioned
of
balance.
B
B
B
There
were
a
pretty
good
list
of
questions,
I'm
not
going
to
belabor.
Reading
that
you
know.
Continued
questions
that
came
up
looks
like
a
lot
of
them
were
just
about
what
happens
is
phase
one
doesn't
settle
well,
what
happens
to
the
project
so
mainly
look
like
they
were
just
the
questions
about
the
impacts
of
the
development
price
point.
You
know
what
the
end
look
would
be.
I,
don't
see
any
other
real,
significant
concerns,
but
there's
quite
a
few
bullet
points
on
the
Canadian.
Airport
certainly
is
available
on
the
website
on
this
petition
page.
B
So
we
can.
You
can
look
through
that
a
little
bit
further,
but
from
our
standpoint,
all
of
all
the
land
use
issues
and
other
issues
is
at
least
that
mentioned
that
have
been
addressed
from
you
know:
staff
plan
review
standpoint,
so
you
know
some
of
the
concerns
looks
like
they
I,
don't
believe
we
had
anybody
that
spoke
in
opposition
at
the
public
hearing
last
month
on
this
one.
So
I
would
imagine
that
is
an
indication
that
folks
felt
that
they
either
had
the
issues
addressed
or
the
big
meeting
and
carrying
them
forward
to
the
petitioner.
K
I
E
E
E
Here,
yes,
Kelly,
yes,
watch;
okay,
yes,
Watkins,
yes,
Wiggins,
yes,
and
the
chair
will
vote
in
the
negative
as
I
continue
to
have
unread
enos
about
voting
for
I.
My
minority
opinion
will
be
that
the
the
proposed
projects,
a
bus,
an
active
I
to
industrial
use
and
that
will
move
us
on
to
our
next
petition
of
the
night.
This
is
our
final
one.
2019
181
by
Clay,
Cooper,
whoa
Cooper
element
incorporated
and
we
are
gonna
hear
from
Michael.
N
N
N
E
H
E
H
E
Yes,
Ellie,
yes,
okay,
yes,
Watkins,
yes,
Wiggins,
yes,
and
the
chair
votes.
Yes,
that
is
the
conclusion
of
our
Genda
for
tonight,
with
a
7-0
vote
on
that
last
object.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
all
for
being
attentive
and
I
would
like
to
give
a
special
shout-out
for
a
zoning
committee.
Please
do
not
tell
the
City
Council,
but
you
all
are
better
at
WebEx
than
they
are
so
great
I'm
moving
this
along
tonight.
Thank
you
all
so
much
yes,
ma'am
I,
just.
J
P
E
That
in
that
includes
Commissioner
Watkins,
who
I
know,
is
a
diligent
and
amazing
nurse
and
healthcare
professional
and
looks
out
for
us
there
of
people.
Finally,
since
you
all
have
your
months,
May
is
Teacher
Appreciation
Month,
so
don't
forget
to
wear
red
bread
and,
if
there's
nothing
other
for
the
good
of
the
order,
I'm
happy
to
bring
this
meeting
to
a
close
and
say
that
we
stand
adjourned,
as
always.
Thank
you
staff
very
much
for
your
support
and
everybody
watching
at
home
having
wonderful
evening.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thanks.