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From YouTube: Community Recovery Task Force, Housing - May 28, 2020
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A
Good
afternoon
rather,
and
welcome
to
the
May
27th
meeting
of
the
Charlotte
City
Council
covert
19
task
force.
My
name
is
Malcolm.
I
am
the
coordinator
of
the
force
and
a
member
of
the
Charlotte
City
Council
representing
district
2.
We
have
a
full
agenda
today
and
what
I
want
to
do
before
I
move
forward
is
to
welcome
our
viewing
audience
and
those
who
have
been
with
us
for
the
past
month
and
welcome
those
from
the
public
who
are
joining
us
today
and
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
the
committee's
objectives.
A
So
you
can
know
who
we
are
and
why
we
are
here
and
basically,
our
objectives
are
is
to
work
with
the
Charlotte
City
Council,
as
we
move
through
COBIT
19
and
provide
solutions
that
here
are
on
the
ground
to
anticipate
and
plan
for
Charlotte's
post
recovery
challenges.
Listen
to
the
community
regarding
the
challenges
people
are
facing,
develop
recommendations
for
how
the
City
of
Charlotte,
specifically
city
government
can
pivot
to
support
changes
needed
as
a
result
of
kovat
19
and
to
provide
residents
with
long-term
vision
for
a
healthy
and
prosperous
community.
A
And
so
we
been
here
at
doing
this
for
a
while
now
going
on
for
a
month,
and
so
I
wanted
to
thank
everyone
for
working
with
us
and
our
task
force
members
in
your
write-ups
pre
reads:
you
should
receive
the
BIOS
for
all.
Our
guests
will
be
with
us
today,
as
well
as
the
pre
read
for
our
new
introduced
topic,
which
will
be
financial
assistance.
That
was
there
as
well
as
well
as
information
regarding
the
housing
recovery
recommendations
which
we
will
be
discussing
and
voting
on
this
afternoon
as
well.
A
So
our
agenda
is
packed
on
tasks
for
members.
We
may
be
here
a
little
bit
longer
than
we
generally
are,
and
so
I
want
to
kind
of
get
right
to
the
agenda
by
first
introducing
all
our
task
force
members
again,
my
name
is
Malcolm
Graham.
Remember
the
Charlotte
City
Council
coordinator
of
the
coab
at
19
housing
task
force
members
that
you
please
introduce
yourself
good.
D
J
D
A
You
very
much
and
we'll
go
right
into
our
agenda
with
agenda
item
number
3,
which
is
the
housing
recovery
funding
recommendations,
task
force
members.
As
you
are
aware
of
several
meetings
ago,
I
made
mention
that
the
City
of
Charlotte
received
one
hundred
and
fifty
million
dollars
care
funding
from
the
federal
government
to
be
used
specifically
related
to
colvett
19
activities
in
our
community.
A
The
funds
were
officially
accepted
by
the
Charlotte
City
Council
on
this
past
Monday
and
20
million
dollars
or
earmarked
for
issues
relating
to
affordable
housing
staff
has
made
a
recommendation
in
terms
of
how
10
million
dollars
should
be
allocated.
Just
a
couple
of
notes
for
your
infamy
again,
all
of
the
dollars
that
were
awarded
to
the
city
has
to
be
allocated
and
spent
by
December
31st
2020.
All
the
dollars
have
to
be
spent
related
to
activities
related
to
kovat.
19.
A
A
For
for
rent
relief
for
for
mortgage
relief
and
to
support
homeless
issues
in
terms
of
SRO
housing,
the
information
was
sent
to
you
and
your
package.
It
talks
about
how
the
funds
will
be
utilized
the
initiative.
It
talks
about
the
vehicles
in
which
the
funds
will
be
implemented.
Program
eligibilities,
as
well
as
an
anticipated
timeline
for
how
the
dollars
will
be
utilized.
A
The
the
recommendations
that
staff
presented
focuses
on
three
issues
of
our
work
plan
and,
as
I
indicated
earlier,
that
the
dollars
will
be
allocated
to
the
work
plan
that
was
officially
approved
by
this
committee.
Those
are
items
number
one:
two,
three
and
four
increase:
affordable
housing,
financial
assistance
evictions
as
well
as
homeless
and
supportive
services;
again,
four
million
dollars
for
rent
four
million
dollars
for
mortgage
relief,
two
million
dollars
for
supportive
services
relating
to
SRO
housing
with
a
community
partner
above
roof,
formerly
known
as
Urban
Ministries
our
pause.
M
A
E
Yes,
thank
you
I'm
glad.
We
are
able
to
discuss
this
because
I
don't
recall
discussing
this
on
to
task
force.
The
specifics
of
this
I
have
several
questions.
How
is
this
different?
How
is
this
different,
how
we,
how
we
change
the
process?
How
sustainable
is
this?
How
long
will
this
funding
last?
How
many
people
are
we
able
to
secure
with
this?
Is
this
the
best
use
the
highest
and
best
use
of
this
money?
I
do
recall
us
several
conversations.
E
A
L
Whiston,
thank
you
so
much
for
those
for
those
questions
and
if
I
could
refer
back
to
the
write
up
all
good
questions
as
far
as
the
I
would
say
that
the
your
staff
got
to
this,
based
on
kind
of
the
conversations
that
we've
heard
over
the
past
four
task
force
meetings.
But
let
me
see
if
I
start
at
number
one.
You
asked
how
this
is
different,
so
this
would
be
different.
L
The
the
initial
tranche
of
rent
and
mortgage
relief
was
with
your
CDBG
dollars
that
we
received,
and
so
that
was
again
a
limited
amount
of
money
and
for
the
rent
relief
that
money
is
being
invested
into
city
supported
properties
right,
and
so
what
that
means
is
money
where
the
city
had
previously
invested
money.
When
we
talked
at
the
council
about
how
we
wanted
to
keep
those
folks
house,
we
believe
that
those
also
are
some
of
the
most
vulnerable
residents
in
our
community.
E
L
E
L
Sir
I
was
attempting
to
answer
your
question
about
how
this
would
be
different,
so
that
was
the
first
round
of
dollars.
This
money
would
be
different
because
we've
heard
through
the
task
force
meetings,
particularly
I,
refer
back
to
an
earlier
comment
by
task
force,
member
Kim
Graham
about
how
can
we
also
work
with
landlords
who
might
be
offering
affordable
housing
to
people
who
are
not
in
a
city
supported
property?
L
So
this
would
give
us
the
ability
to
work
with
more
people
who
are
also
earning
80%
and
below
the
area
median
income
not
limited
to
the
narrow
pool
that
you
had
in
your
first
round
of
funding
in
terms
of
a
systemic
approach
that
I'm
glad
you
said
that
this
extra,
this
additional
round
of
funding
would
allow
us
to
work
with
partners
across
our
community
so
that
we
best
leverage
the
funding
with.
What's
going
on
in
other
areas.
L
You're
right,
we
don't
want
to
just
be
making
direct
payments
to
people
with
no
sustainable
approach,
so
it
would
give
us
an
opportunity
to
work
with
our
other
partners
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
implement
this.
We
don't
have
number
of
numbers
of
people
who
would
be
served
today,
based
on
this
money.
What
we
wanted
to
do
was
go
ahead
and
get
it
allocated
and
again
work
with
our
partners
to
figure
out
what
the
right
amounts
would
be,
and
so
that
would
inform
how
many
people
would
be
served.
E
And
what
kind
of
assurances
are
we?
Are
we
unique
for
people
that
come
and
take
this
money?
You
know
another
situation:
I
don't
want
to
keep.
Is
that
where
we're
paying
people
a
landlords
to
keep
people
in
homes,
and
it's
only
good
for
a
month
or
two
I
mean
those
folks
are
just
getting
pushed
out
onto
the
street
once
that
one
time
payment
is
not
what
kind
of.
E
L
Mr.
Winn,
so
let
me
say:
I'm
not
I'm,
not
suggesting
we're,
not
suggesting
that
it
be
a
one-time
payment,
because
we
know
that
this
is
a
long-term
issue
in
terms
of
what
assurances
are
we
getting
from
landlords?
I
can't
tell
you
that
today
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that
that
will
be
one
of
the
negotiation
factors
that
we
work
out
with
landlords
that
we
don't
just
pay
pay.
You
have
someone
pay
their
rent
and
then
you
you
kick
them
out
over
the
next
month
or
so
so
we
don't
again.
L
E
L
We
were
trying
to
based
on
what
we
were
hearing
at
the
at
your
meetings.
We
were
trying
to
be
immediate.
We
were
trying
to
go
ahead
and
amend
existing
infrastructure
that
we
had.
We
know
that
mortgage
and
rent
relief
is
going
to
be
an
issue,
and
so
we
were
just
trying
to
be
is
expedient
as
possible.
You
have
on
your
information
kind
of
anticipated
timelines,
for
when
we
would
be
working
out
the
details
in
each
of
the
program.
So
that's
where
we
are
at
this
point.
A
F
This
is
a
partly
question,
partly
maybe
clarification
I'm,
assuming
from
what
I'm
hearing
that
this
is
gonna.
Follow
kind
of
model
to
your
point,
miss
Wyman,
that
the
model
has
kind
of
been
set
up
with
a
limited
number
of
properties
in
and
and
properties
that
that
we
own
have
been
using
that
model
where
the
tenant
is
really
the
one
applying
for
the
funds
they
go
and
if
they
are
having
trouble
paying
their
rent,
they
apply
for
the
funds.
The
payment
is
made
to
the
property
owner
and
the
landlord,
but
it's
on
behalf
of
the
tenant.
F
So
if
there
is
a
month
worth
of
rent
that
brings
the
tenant
current
if
they're
behind
on
their
rent,
they
can
payment.
So
it's
really
a
payment
for
the
tenant
to
the
landlord
and
and
it
kind
of
fits
with
I
think
one
of
our
bolts,
and
this
was
to
not
let
tenants
get
behind
so
so
when
we,
while
you
can't
evict
a
resident
right
now,
if
they're
not
paying
their
rent,
they're
just
you're,
just
kind
of
kicking
the
can
this.
F
These
payments,
I
assume
with
both
on
rental
assistance
and
home
ownership,
would
keep
tenants
and
homeowners
current
on
their
payments
as
they
move
Florin.
So
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
the
envision
a
program
similar
to
what
the
program
that's
already
functioning
and
now
you're,
just
expanding
it
to
a
broader
group
of
tenants.
Mr.
L
A
C
L
L
That
was
thank
you
for
asking
that,
and
so,
as
we've
thought
about
it
and
as
we've
envisioned
the
program
again,
it
has
to
be
for
folks
who
have
who
are
impacted
as
a
result
of
Kovac.
So
if
someone
was
living
in
a
hotel,
they
lost
their
job
or
it
suffered
a
loss
of
income
reduction
because
of
kovat.
L
J
Thank
You
mr.
Graham
I
guess
I
also
wanted
to
make
sure
I
understand.
It
appears
from
the
right
up
there.
There
is
a
sort
of
a
case
management
component
to
this
process.
I
mean
this.
Is
these
funds
allocated
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
which
to
me
implies
that
there's
there's
some
assessment
of
the
recipients
need
and
part
of
the
decision-making
process
would
seem
to
be
that
based
on
that
need
would
drive
what
level
of
assistance
they
might
be
eligible
for
or
qualify
for.
So
it's
not
some
random
process
of
just
giving
out
money
there.
J
L
Are
exactly
right,
mr.
Lindsey,
and
thank
you
for
pointing
that
out,
it
would
be
a
case-by-case
basis
and
again,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I'll
just
keep
repeating
I'm
sorry
to
be
redundant
that
this
is
about
to
the
extent
we
can
helping
people
be
successful
right.
We
know
that
kovat
is
long-term.
We
know
that
each
individual
circumstance
will
be
different
so,
and
we
know
that
at
some
point
this
money
will
run
out
right.
So
we
do
want
to
make
sure
we're
looking
at
individual
cases.
H
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
the
fact
that
we're
not
creating
this.
These
programs
on
a
whole
cloth
and
we've
had
some
experience
with
this
over
the
past
couple
months,
including
creating
online
applications
that
are
very
easy
to
complete
if
the
applicant
doesn't
have
access
to
the
Internet.
We're
doing
that
pictures
over
the
phone
so
we'll
be
able
to
use
the
lessons
that
we
learn
for
the
past
couple
months,
for
these
new
programs
and
4-wire
wider
audience
as
well.
Also
I,
just
wanna
state
that
I
think
the
need
is
our
mid.
H
D
Good
afternoon,
I'm,
so
I
think
Charlotte,
Mecklenburg,
Housing,
Partnership
kiss
was
great
vendor
for
administering
these
funds
have
had
some
experience
with
them,
working
with
some
of
our
families
that
were
in
our
rapid
rehousing
programs.
I
do
want
to
ask,
though,
because
this
is
you
know
a
huge
increase
do.
D
Are
we
supporting
them
as
far
as
having
a
capacity
to
be
able
to
address
the
need,
so
I
know
we're
since
Colvin
19
we've
been
doing
several
initiatives
but
really
hadn't
had
the
staffing
capacity
and
people
have
to
wait
and
just
want
to
just
recommend
that
we
make
sure
that
they
they
do
have
other
staffing
as
well,
and
all
these
just
rental
assistance
dollars
or
some
other
important
it.
The
administration
of
the
funds.
K
Thank
you
very
much.
My
question
is
just
more
relating
to
the
what
we
are
expecting
in
June
with
the
court
systems
and
to
Fred's
point
about
communication
and
and
the
communication
going
out
for
the
funds
and
the
availability
of
the
funds.
Are
we
making
the
mediators
or
the
court
system
aware
that
these
funds
are
there
so
that
we
can
sort
of
stave
off
some
of
these
evictions
that
are
that
are
potentially
going
to
occur?
L
Connie,
let
me
take
a
stab
at
those
so
to
answer
your
last
question.
First,
we
envision
paying
it
to
the
to
the
mortgage
company
right
again,
so
not
to
the
homeowner
and
paying
it
to
the
mortgage
company
in
terms
of
marketing.
You
make
a
really
great
point
about
making
sure
that
not
only
our
residents
know
but
that
the
court
system
knows,
and
so
we
will
work
to
do
that.
L
You'll
hear
a
presentation
later
on
in
the
in
the
meeting
from
the
Community
Relations
Committee
about
how
they're
going
to
be
working
to
to
help
with
the
evictions
through
their
mediation
process.
So
I
think
there
is
a
link.
There
is
a
natural
link
that
we
can
go
a
little
further
to
make
sure
that
the
courts
are
aware
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
that
very.
I
So,
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
City
Council
and
the
manager
for
advancing
this
initiative.
I
think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
remember
something
that
was
said
earlier
about
assistance
that
came
from
the
multifamily
industry.
I
mentioned
that
Camden
Camden
zuri
created
a
five
million
dollar
grant
program
for
its
residents
to
receive
up
to
two
thousand
dollars,
and
that
was
just
for
the
month
of
April
and
they
were
able
to
give
out
up
up
to
I.
I
Think
two
thousand
grants
out
of
that
five
thousand
five
million
dollars,
and
this
is
four
million
dollars,
and
so
we
think
about
how
we
want
to
most
effectively
use
these
resources.
We
could
use
it
in
in
partnership
with
the
CRC
and
the
mediation
program
in
order
to
stave
off
some
of
the
evictions
cases.
We've
heard
from
the
course
that
there
are
18
summer,
ejectment
I'm
as
of
last
week.
I
More
than
half
of
those
are
probably
for
people
who
couldn't
pay
all
or
some
of
their
rent
for
the
month
of
April
and
potentially
for
March,
and
so
I
could
see
this
money
being
used
for
folks
who
earn
under
80
percent.
Potentially,
even
as
much
as
a
hundred
percent
of
ami
in
increments
of
you
know
up
to
five
hundred
dollars
per
month
to
help
them
bridge
the
gap
between
what
they
could
afford
for
the
month
and
what
they
need
to
also
pay
for
the
rest
of
the
month,
and
you
could
get
them
through
July.
I
Even
and
if
they
get
access
to
unemployment
insurance,
then
they
could
also
have
some
money
from
that
and
then
maybe
get
on
to
some
further
employment
after
that
and
not
leave
further
assistance.
But
I
see
this
being
able
to
help
us
tremendously
with
the
backlog
of
addictions,
cases
that
are
right
now,
I'm
going
to
be
docketed
as
of
Monday.
E
E
L
E
L
Someone
else
might
need
the
fully-loaded
rent
so
again,
that's
why
we
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
work
with
them
on
case-by-case
basis,
but
the
property
owner
should
expect
that
some
way,
somehow
either
birds,
but
from
us
from
this
funding
to
have
a
full
rent
payment
or
a
combination
of
this
funding.
Coupled
with
what
the
property
the
tenant
can
do
to
had
a
full
rent
payment.
E
All
right,
I
just
have
concerns
we're
approaching.
This
is
going
to
be
an
expensive
kind
of
kick
the
can
down
the
road
just
up
and
survive,
what's
not
before
people
get
kicked
out
and
that
you
know
that
this
will
I'm
just
a
sign
that
landlords
will
rely
on
this
and
and
and
not
make
make
changes
not
succumb
to
the
business
model,
or
it's
about
to
work
your
tenants
in
the
city
what
to
won't,
find
a
more
systemic
permanent
solution
and
as
we
do
as
we
do
this
long
bacons
turn.
What's.
A
C
Yes,
I
wanted
to
piggyback
off
what
miss
Graham
said
if
we
could
use
these
dollars
and
partner
with
the
mediation
process
and
maybe
their
landlords,
during
that
mediation
that
would
settle
for
less
than
a
hundred
percent,
then
that
would
that
would
stretch
the
dollars
a
little
more.
If
that's
something
we
can
think
about
and
use
the
gonna
work
with
the
CRC
as
a
priority,
and
also
what
is
the
time
frame
that
these
dollars
will
be
available.
L
So
we
we
are
open
to
you,
miss
your
suggestion
and
miss
Graham
suggestion
I.
Think
it's
a
wonderful
suggestion.
Again
in
your
write-up.
We
have
an
anticipated
timeline
for
how
we
want
to
move
forward
once
these
are
approved
again,
we'll
work
with
our
partners
get
the
contracts,
execute
it
and
based
on
how
fast
we
can
go
and
what
the
program
looks
like
miss
Johnson.
That
will
inform
our
timeline
for
when
the
dollars
are
available.
So
today,
I
can't
tell
you
that
we
will
have
the
dollars
on
the
street,
but
by
a
particular
date.
L
C
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
in
our
communication
in
the
City
Council
meeting.
It
was
my
understanding
that
you
said
60
to
90
days,
so
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
for
anyone
who's
listening
that
these
dollars
are
not
gonna,
be
available
to
pay
June
rent.
So
are
we
thinking
60
to
90
days
or
are
those
june
dates
or
July
yeah.
L
We're
working
this
Johnson
as
fast
as
we
can,
if
I'm
being
60
to
90
days,
is
certainly
I
believe
it
gives
us
enough
time
if
we
can
do
it
sooner.
Based
on
these
dates
that
we
have
here,
we
will
be
working
as
soon
as
we
have
the
green
light
to
go
forward
to
work
with
our
programs.
We
are
ready
to
begin
work,
expanding
our
programs
amending
our
contracts
and
establishing
the
programs
and
again
we
are
not
starting
from
scratch
and
I.
A
L
A
Also,
the
United
Way
Foundation
of
the
Carolinas
have
monies
on
the
street
right
now
we
are
other
various
nonprofit
organizations
and
so
there's
money
out
there.
This
recommendation
further
expands
the
pool
and
provide
additional
resources
for
those
who
needed
short
term
and
long
term,
as
I
indicated
before
this
is
a
marathon
and
so
we're
gonna
need
dollars
in
June,
July,
August,
September
and
October,
and
so
I
think
their
approach
that
we're
taking
is
and
and
the
world
that
we're
traveling
down.
I
Lower
at
my
hand,
but
I
will
say
that
to
councilwoman's
Johnson's
comment
about
prints
that
are
going
to
be
due
in
June
is,
while
we
might
not
have
money
available
to
be
on
the
street
in
any
for
work.
Commitments
that
the
mediation
group
can
use
to
negotiate
in
mediations
would
be
helpful,
because
I
mean
an
IOU
means
something
from
the
City
of
Charlotte.
A
Okay,
so
there's
a
motion
on
the
floor.
That's
been
duly
second
to
accept
the
staff
recommendation
to
accept
ten
million
dollars,
eight
millions
for
rent
relief,
mortgage
relief,
two
million
dollars
to
supports
SRO
supportive
housing
with
urban
ministries,
ie
above
roof
those
in
favor.
Could
you
raise
your
hand,
so
we
can
see
you
all.
M
A
H
K
A
Connie,
thank
you.
You
bailed
me
out
so
that
that's
officially
approved.
Thank
you
very
much
Pam
on
this
wyman.
Thank
you
very
much
for
for
the
excellent
presentation
and
we'll
pivot
to
the
recommendations
from
our
number
one
work
plan
item,
which
is
increasing
the
supply
for
affordable
housing.
Our
leads
have
done
a
tremendous
job
over
the
last
two
weeks
and
they
stand
ready
today
to
present
their
recommendations,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Lee
and
Fred.
Thank
you
for
your
work
and
I.
Look
forward
to
hearing
your
presentation.
H
I'll
start
Thank,
You,
councilmember
brand
I
just
want
to
say
before
we
get
started
that
I
really
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
serve
and
also
the
opportunity
to
work
with
my
friend,
Billy
Cochran,
again
Lee
and
I've
been
the
building
affordable.
Has
it
quite
some
time
now?
We
know
a
lot
about
affordable
housing,
but
we
don't
know
everything.
So
I
really
appreciate
all
the
comments
that
we've
received
from
others.
H
During
this
process
we've
been
able
to
incorporate
some
of
the
comments,
not
now
the
comments,
yet
if
but
so,
I
encourage
you
to
bikini
to
send
us
your
thoughts
and
also
make
comments
for
the
other
working
groups.
Who
will
follow
us
happy
had
said
we'll
get
started
with
the
presentation
so
next
slide.
H
One
thing
that
wanted
to
do
to
start
with
just
to
give
some
important
principles
and
background.
First
of
all,
this
is
critically
important
to
me
and
for
the
affordable
housing
community
is
that
it's
very,
very
important
that
we
maintain
a
high
quality
as
far
as
we're
as
far
as
design
is
concerned.
As
far
as
construction
materials
are
concerned
for
all
of
our
developments,
and
we
should
also
encourage
a
mixed
income
community
built
to
market
rate
standards,
I
can't
emphasize
enough
how
important
that
is,
even
in
these
challenging
times,
we're
still
dealing
with
destruction.
H
Cognitive
looking
like
mr.
can
cause
that
there
at
historic
eyes,
we
need
to
continue
to
build
quality.
So
that's
that's.
I'll
leave
the
back.
Also.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
the
past
few
years,
developing
a
strong
housing
framework.
Now
with
covin,
we've
learned
some
new
license,
but
the
the
framework
that
we
had
into
prior
to
COBIT
is
still
very
relevant
to
us,
and
so
we
still
we
need
to
maintain
that
framework
and
have
to
incorporate
new
lessons.
H
That's
that
we're
laying
right
now
next
is
the
fact
that
we
believe
the
supportive
housing
is
very
important
for
our
community.
These
developments
are
currently
produced,
as
perhaps
a
smaller
component
for
our
larger
development.
Well,
we
have
stand-alone
supportive
housing
developments
as
well,
but
those
developments
are
very
important
and
we
need
to
continue
to
support
those.
The
recommend
recommendations
that
Lee
and
I
put
together
are
limited
to
the
remaining
2018
housing
trust
fund
bonds,
but
also
for
the
new
round
of
the
2020
proposed
50
million
dollar
Housing
Trust
Fund
bond
proceeds
as
well.
Next
slide.
H
We
think
these
are
the
correct
uses
for
the
twenty
twenty
thousand-plus
pump,
our
first
new
construction
of
affordable
rental
housing.
That
course
includes
supportive
housing,
new
construction
for
sale,
housing.
We
talked
about
that
quite
a
bit
and
we
think
that
that
is
a
great
use
for
trust
fund
funding,
in
addition
to
that
rehabilitation
of
affordable
through
rehabilitation
through
preservation
of
affordable
rental,
housing,
bank
foods,
noise
or
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing,
also
supportive
housing
within
those
developments
as
well.
H
Again
these
are
targets
and
we
think
we
proposed
that
it
be
reevaluated
that,
when
applications
are
proceed
to
determine
what
the
actual
demand
is,
for
example,
that
may
not
be
as
much
demand
for
a
acquisition
of
naturally
occurring,
affordable
housing
and
there
may
be
more
demand
form
for
new
construction
of
housing.
So
that's
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
and
that's
part
of
our
recommendation
next
slide,
and
we
will
do
this
entire
presentation
and
then
ask
requests
as
we
assess
how
we're
going
to
use
the
50
million
dollars
for
the
2020
Housing
Trust
Fund
bond.
H
There's
certain
things
that
we
thought
would
not
be
a
great
piece
for
those
that
bond
funding.
One
is
the
thing
that
the
yeast
that
we
just
talked
about
middle
sister
bill.
That
is
not
a
great
use
for
the
trust
fund
funding.
We
we
would
like
to
that
to
others,
city
or
county
funding
for
rental
assistance
and
there's
also
a
shortage
of
units
available
to
receive
the
bill,
assistance,
ward
or
that
may
be
acceptable.
So
again,
we
think
that
trust
fund
funding
should
be
used
for
long-term
capital
gains.
Also.
H
It
was
not
a
great
idea
to
use
trust
fund
fund
Inc
for
acquisitions,
such
as
land,
banking
or,
naturally
current
affordable
housing.
That
may
not
need
trust
fund
funding,
so
we
need
to
look
for
the
private
resources
or
funding
from
less
warmer
other
Community
Development
financial
institutions
with
CCDF
eyes,
to
provide
the
capital
needed
for
those
types
of
acquisitions
and
preserve
our
unfunded.
H
The
gaps
innate
needed
for
horrible
has
new
construction
entered
in
rehabilitation
preservation
next
time,
as
far
as
the
frequency
of
applications
for
new
construction
and
for
of
rental
housing
and
for
for
sale
housing.
In
addition
to
no
acquisition,
we
recommend
sorry
for
the
preservation
will
recommend
application
cycles
of
twice
a
year
for
no
acquisitions.
That's
a
little
different
because
you
have
to
be
ready
to
take
advantage
of
opportunities
arrive.
So
we
recommend
that
there
be
a
rolling
application
process
for
no
opposition's
and
not
just
limit
those
acquisitions
to
twice
a
year.
H
H
F
Thanks
Fred
next
slide,
so
I'm
gonna
as
we
transition
when
now
talk
about
specific
recommendations
related
to
the
uses
that
Fred
and
I
were
recommending,
so
starting
with
affordable
housing.
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
this
one
slide
covers
both
new
construction
and
preservation
and
rehabilitation,
including
Noah's,
so
in
our
world.
In
our
mind,
and
with
this
the
committee
has
talked
about
this-
you
know
unit
product.
The
unit
built
is
equal
to
a
unit
preserve
so
whether
you're
building
to
do
unit
they're
preserving
a
naturally
occurring
unit.
F
Those
are
both
creating
one
unit
or
saving
one
unit.
So
when
evaluating
you
spend
your
money
and
what
and
how
to
and
how
to
do
ami
restrictions.
You
should
almost
look
at
both
the
same
way,
so
these
recommendations
are
really
related
to
both
new
construction
and
rehab
/
Noah
yeah.
So
we
want
to
continue
the
focus
there.
Has
it
wasn't
a
ton
of
discussion,
but
we
mainly
because
I
think
mrs.
something
was
well
established.
F
We
want
to
continue
to
focus
at
least
20%
of
the
units
in
every
development
at
30%
AMI,
whether
it's
a
new
construction
or
a
rehabilitation
and
a
Noah.
We
want
to
have
that
target
it's
in
the
framework.
It's
in
the
2018
framework.
It's
I
think
it's
important
to
maintain
it's
still
where
the
greatest
need
is.
So
we
want
to
continue
that,
but
the
second
recommendation
is
a
bit
of
a
switch
there's
a
bit
of
a
change.
It's
to
address
the
two
items.
One
is
location.
F
We
are
a
lot
about
that
portal
district
distribution
and
we
also
heard
a
lot
about.
Are
we
really
hitting
every
a?
We
need
to
right
now
we're
hitting
30%
of
ami,
because
the
city
has
said
we
have
we
you
need
to.
If
you
want
to
do
trust
fund,
you
have
to
have
20%
at
30.
So
that's
why
you're
seeing
proposals
at
that
level,
then
most
of
the
other
units
are
being
hit
at
60%,
ami
or
80%
ami
because
of
federal
funding
requirements,
there's
nothing
specifically
requiring
50%
ami.
F
So
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
cap.
That's
created
the
way
we've
proposed
to
help
fill
that
gap
is
is
with
the
subsidy
payment.
So
our
recommendation
there
was
a
lot
of
recommendations
around
raising
the
subsidy
cap
per
unit
based
on
the
last
RFP.
We
think
that's
brilliant
and
also
that
that
cap
be
different
depending
on
the
type
of
development.
F
F
So
a
development
is
gonna,
come
in,
it's
gonna
have
20%
of
30,
because
that's
a
requirement,
but
then,
based
on
the
average
ami,
served
how
many
at
50,
how
many
at
60
there'd
be
kind
of
a
rolling
or
a
graduated
that
the
lower
the
ami
average
ami
you're
serving
a
higher
request
year
and
again
from
the
housing
trust
fund
that
will
incent
developers
to
have
some
units
at
50%
ami.
So
we'll
have
be
able
to
fill
that
kind
of
that
hole
that
was
created
between
30
and
60.
F
We
do
think
it's
important.
This
can't
be
reevaluated
and
the
city
puts
out
an
RFP
and
I
think
a
panel
like
this,
like
this
task
force
or
a
smaller
group
that
kind
of
has
experience
in
the
industry
whether
it's
lenders
developers,
others
could
help
establish
those
caps
before
every
RFP.
It
also
could
be
a
time
to
evaluate
what
there's
other
funds
available
so
part
of
the
reason
the
cap
was
where
it
was
was
because
of
the
choices
that
were
available.
F
A
H
In
this
context,
we
must
include
a
minimum
20%
of
the
homes
in
a
developer
eligible
for
people
who
are
at
60%
ami
or
the
love.
There's
not
this
almost
no
product
available
like
that
for
people
at
that
income
other
than
Habitat
homes
in
this
market
and
Housing
Trust
on
investment
per
unit.
This
would
be
based
on
an
average
ami
service.
My
check,
in
addition
to
that,
we
are
really
targeting
the
housing
trust
behind
asked
that
be
based
upon
a
particular
project
location
and
for
certain
amounts
with
within
that
location.
H
First,
you
think,
wants
to
use
their
home
to
encourage
investment
and
a
partner
nobility,
but
you
also
don't
want
them
to
stay
there
for
some
time
in
order
to
their
investment
in
their
home
and
also
to
preserve
or
villains.
So,
hello,
we've
done
that
in
the
past
by
through
the
half
charlotte
program,
where
there's
a
10-year
deep
restriction.
In
this
case,
we
were
recommended
a
15-year
age
restriction
which
is
consistent
with
the
use
of
home
funding
and
for
for
South
homes,
so
that
that
is
our
recommendation
as
far
as
more
ability
to
serve
excellent.
H
As
far
as
they
were,
making
2018
I
have
some
trust
fund
funds,
because
I
think
there's
range
seventeen
dollars
remaining.
We
are
recommending
that
funding
as
far
as
a
second
round
this
concern
that
there'd
be
a
slight
delay
in
that
second
round.
In
order
to
really
understand
what
the
effects
of
coded
will
be
on
the
market,
things
are
changing
and
you
know
we
just
don't
know
the
feds.
H
H
Part
of
that
is
the
fact
that
there
may
be
some
developments
that
have
already
been
funded
that
they
have
new
gaps
created
by
changes
of
the
market
due
to
code,
for
example,
in
our
first
initial
meeting,
I
mentioned
the
fact
that
four
times
that
bond
involved,
the
tax
credit
rate
is
at
a
historic
low.
You
don't
know
how,
if
it's
going
to
go
any
lower,
but
that
rate
is
very
important
and
if
that's
at
fault,
then
new
gaps
are
being
created
in
this
development.
F
F
I
think
we
can
probably
go
to
last
slide,
and
then
we
can
so
one
of
the
things
that
was
mentioned
many
times
through
some
of
the
comments,
the
task
force
with
other
other
resources
that
could
stretch
the
ability
of
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
to
be
to
do
more
units
with
the
same
amount
of
Housing
Trust
Funds.
So
this
these
are
really
kind
of
other
recommendations.
They
aren't
specific
to
how
we
use
the
trust
fund,
but
really
how
we
use
the
trust
fund
with
other
resources.
F
If
been
depending
on
the
nature
of
your
development,
you
would
automatically
apply
for
some
other
benefits
that
would
then
lower
the
amount
of
Housing
Trust
Fund.
You
would
need
the
couple
of
the
three
that
we
mentioned,
which
are
really
the
three
biggest
ones,
and
this
again
is
a
is
modeled
off
of
the
city
of
Asheville.
One
would
be
a
grand
back
of
your
property
taxes,
so
in
the
wind
we
say
model
for
Mecklenburg
County.
F
We
think
if
the
city
will
do
this,
the
the
Mecklenburg
County,
which
is
where
about
two-thirds
of
our
taxes,
property
taxes,
go,
could
just
draft
right
off
of
that
model.
So
if
the
city
can
show
how
it's
done,
I
think
the
county
might
be
supportive
of
doing
the
same
thing,
because
you
already
have
a
policy
in
place.
F
So
this
would
be
a
a
certain
amount
of
the
incremental
property
taxes
that
you
create
would
be
granted
back
to
the
development
for
a
certain
number
of
years
and
the
percentage
and
the
number
of
years
would
be
based
on
the
criteria
of
how
many
of
what
ami
you're
serving
or
other
criteria.
In
addition,
you
could
get
an
elimination
or
reduction
of
your
water
and
sewer
capacity
and
connection
fees
which
are
all
administered
by
Charlotte
water.
So
that's
one
entity
and
then
finally,
your
other
permit
fees.
F
So
this
includes
site
plan
approval,
permit
site
plan,
permit
fees
that
are
controlled
by
the
city
and
again
the
city
could
be
the
model
and
then
the
county
could
just
draft
onto
the
same
policy
for
their
building.
Permit
fees,
so
most
of
our
building
permit
fees
are
paid
to
the
count,
but
they
could,
if
the
model
is
there
and
be
very
easy
for
them.
So
that's
just
a
way.
F
Another
way
to
stretch
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
is
the
use
of
city-owned
land
city
already
has
his
Atlanta
City
home
land
policy
that
was
adopted
a
couple
of
years
ago.
It's
been
used
several
times,
so
we
should
continue
to
use
that,
but
also
let
it
be
a
mom
for
Mecklenburg,
County
and
CMS
as
to
how
to
use
your
land.
But
again,
if
you
pair
it
with
the
Housing
Trust
Fund,
you
get
more
more
units
for
the
same
amount
of
trust
fund
and
then,
finally,
this
the
last
bullet
is
something
we
talked
about
earlier.
F
If
there's
an
ADA
if
it
objects
that
have
gaps
because
of
Koba
19
can
get
additional
tax
credits
advocating
that
that
happens
and
then
the
long-term
is
that
is
the
new
state
tax
credit
that
one
that
was
just
passed
in
South
Carolina.
That
will
be
an
uphill
battle,
I
think,
but
it
would
be
a
great
tool
for
hurt
for
North
Carolina,
so
I
think
that's
the
last
line
and
I.
Think
no
friend
I
could
take
questions
about
anything
great,
the
develop
anything
throughout
the
presentation.
A
Friendly,
thank
you
very
much
for
that
presentation
of
those
recommendations.
I
was
really
impressed
as
I
read
through
them
in
terms
of
how
detailed
they
were
and
specific
in
some
cases
and
and
that's
exactly
what
we
wanted
so
I'll
open
it
up
to
two
task
force
members
for
those
who
may
have
some
questions
in
reference
to
the
presentation.
Any
questions.
J
A
F
F
If
you
have
questions
or
comments,
I
think
we
can
respond
back
and
say:
hey
here's
why
we
didn't
put
something
in
or
yes,
I
think
that
makes
sense
to
make
that
change
just
so
we
can
make
it
a
little
bit
more
active
over
the
next
seven
days.
So
by
the
time
we
come
back,
we
may
have
answered
questions
or
made
some
tweaks
based
on
that
feedback.
I
think.
A
C
I
will
send
my
questions
to
Fred
and
Lee,
but
I
would
like
to
hear
Miss
Whiteman
initial
thoughts
on
this
presentation.
It's
they'll
seem
like
with
some.
You
know,
questions
and
clarification.
They
seem
like
great
and
solution.
Focused
suggestions.
Are
there
any
it
stand
out
for
you
pan
that
will
be
challenging
for
the
city.
L
F
Sure,
and
and
if
I
can
take
30
seconds
cuz,
it
was
right
when
I
got
cut
off.
That
I
was
explaining
our
allegation.
The
the
60
30
10
say
real
quickly
over
the
last
two
years,
I
think
the
city
has
funded
for
Noah's
totaling,
just
under
10
million
dollars
about
nine
and
a
half
million.
So
that
is
why
we
came
up
with
the
idea
of
30
percent
of
the
50
million
would
be
about
15
million,
so
based
on
the
the
actual
demand
that
has
come
for
Noah's.
That's
where
we
came
up
with
the
30
percent.
F
As
we
said,
if
there's
more
demand
over
the
first
couple
of
rfp
rounds,
we
could
always
make
that
adjustment,
and
then
the
ten
percent
on
the
for
sale
was
really
about,
because
the
city
hasn't
funded
for
sale,
affordable
for
sale.
In
this
matter,
we
thought
it
made
sense
to
see
what
the
demand
was
first
before
committing
more
funds
than
that.
F
If
there
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
demand-
and
it
makes
sense
to
redo
those
allocations,
we
think
that
makes
sense,
but
we
thought,
as
an
initial
rollout,
that
was
a
good
percentage
to
see
how
much
demand
there
is
for
that
Trust,
Fund
I
know
the
only
comment,
I'll
say
from
Charlotte
water.
We
have
actually
had
these
discussions
over
the
years
and
what
the
the
statement
they
have
always
made
is
they
are
a
self-supporting
entity.
So
if
you
do
this
you
out,
but
then
you
obviously
need
to
make
up
that
revenue
somewhere
else.
F
L
And
so
just
what
we're
gonna
have
more
conversation
about
that,
and
perhaps
again
we'll
have
to
study
this
a
little
bit
more
but
link
those
if
we,
if
that
were
an
agreed-upon
path
for
just
perhaps
linking
it
to
targeting
the
deeper
affordability
but
but
I
need
to
study
and
think
about
that
a
little
bit
more
again.
These
are
initial
recommendations.
A
J
J
The
other
thing
that
I
would
like
to
just
kind
of
add
to
the
discussion
at
this
point
is
to
have
a
sort
of
a
consensus
that
what
we're
talking
about
now
really
kind
of
high-level
things,
and
what
my
experience
has
been
is
that
the
high
level
principles
are
easy
to
agree
to.
The
details,
obviously
sometimes
will
produce
results
that
we
didn't
anticipate.
J
So
I
just
would
suggest
that
we
need
to
be
very
cautious
that
when
we
establish
the
high
level
principles
that
we
do
leave
room
for
negotiation
on
those
details,
in
particular
I
like
the
idea
of
having
the
allocations
targeted,
we
just
need
to
ensure
that
the
way
that
they're
targeted
doesn't
restrict,
who
can
use
the
funds
in
terms
of
which
developers
or
how
many
developers
are
out
there
that
could
use
those
funds.
I.
J
Think
one
of
the
challenges
that
we
face
is
that
we
continue
to
have
a
very
small
number
of
producers
and
providers
working
on
this
problem
of
supply
and
unless
we
figure
out
a
way
to
expand
that
we're
going
to
still
be
the
same
problem.
Where
tell
me
I
have
a
few
people
working
on
the
problem,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
develop
the
details
on
these
things.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
A
They
will
come
back
with
an
amended
recommendation
and
we
will
then
vote
on
those
recommendations
to
forward
to
the
City
Council
for
for
their
consideration.
We
have
three
more
presentations
in
about
30
minutes
on
the
clock,
so
I
want
to
try
to
move
us
along
quickly
and
introduce
the
next
topic.
We.
E
L
E
G
Thank
You
mr.
Graham,
so
I'm,
a
webinar
yesterday,
presented
by
Metro
study
where
Ali
Wolfe,
who
is
the
lead
economist
with
Myers
research,
because
it's
the
most
impacted
by
job
loss
or
reduced
hours,
are
those
earning
less
than
50,000
a
year,
and
unfortunately,
this
group
is
primarily
represented
by
people
of
color
and
obviously
to
state
the
obvious.
This
is
precisely
the
target
residents
we
want
to
ask
so
the
low
income
earners
less
than
80%
of
the
area
median
income
business
moment
mentioned.
G
However,
rather
than
making
recommendations
on
what
we
think
we
know,
we
want
to
gather
community
feedback
to
ensure
enough
we're
not
missing
anything
and
make
sure
that
we're
addressing
all
areas
of
need.
So
as
such,
we're
going
to
be
issuing
a
survey
to
baseline
the
housing
needs
prior
to
covin
19
and
the
demand
and
needs
identified
by
community
partners
after
the
crisis
began.
We're
also
exploring
best
practices
of
communities
who
have
enacted
covin
19
relief
and
will
be
returning
with
an
economist
delivering
a
future
presentation
on
who
can
discuss.
G
Who
can
discuss
the
short
term
in
long
term
and
Pat
the
cove
in
19
on
the
Charlotte
economy.
So
as
we
formulate
our
recommendations,
we
want
to
be
fully
informed
and
mindful
of
the
resources
we
have
available
to
us
more
to
come
on
that
and
we
welcome
questions
and
feedback,
but
just
to
go
over
the
financial
assistance
assistance,
work
stream,
we're
looking
at
the
financial
assistance
for
single-family,
multi-family
property
owners,
rent
relief
and
examining
local
support
to
plug
the
gaps
for
federal
and
unemployment
programs.
G
So
we
do
have
a
speaker
today
that
we
asked
to
join
us.
So
mr.
Meacham
is
going
to
give
us
an
update
on
Olivia,
but
I
welcome
any
feedback
from
Connie
and
Deronda
and
also
I
want
to
make
sure
I
think
ken
Graham,
as
well,
because
she's
attending
as
as
she's
able
to
but
she's
been
supplying
some
support
and
recommendations
as
well.
A
N
I
will
do
my
best
back:
oh
Anthony,
I'm,
Jean,
I
Spit,
this
everyone
healthy
and
thank
you
so
much
for
what
you're
doing
for
our
community
again.
My
name
is
the
Meacham
CEO
and
president
of
inland,
formerly
the
Charlotte
Housing
Authority.
We
want
to
talk
about
the
Housing
Choice
Voucher
program,
and
what
that
is.
The
House
of
Gaza
program
is
a
federally
funded
rental
assistance
program
is
designed
to
assist
families,
healthy
elderly,
disabled
veterans,
basically
access
private
rental
fee,
private
rental
market.
N
We
in
Linnaean
actually
are
the
largest
provider
of
affordable
housing
in
the
city
and
actually,
even
in
the
state,
through
the
Housing
Choice
Voucher
program,
we
actually
distributed
about
fifty
million
dollars
in
the
community
and
rental
subsidies.
In
here
we
have
4,500
tenant
based
vouchers,
and
so,
as
I
talked
about,
they
haven't
worked
out
they're
kind
of
two
different
vouchers
once
a
tenant
based
voucher
was
a
project
based
on.
So
let
me
first
talk
about
ten
based
voucher.
N
A
tender
base
concert
follows
the
tenant,
okay
and
so
with
those
4,500,
which
you
know
mostly,
is
probably
the
section
8
program.
That's
the
largest
component
of
of
our
rental
subsidy
program.
We
have
another
one
called
a
project
base
program
which
that
program
itself
now
stays
with
the
unit
try
to
stage
with
an
actual
unit.
That's
a
different
tenant
based
in
project
base,
but
again
just
letting
you
know
that
the
4,500
tenant
base
units
that
we
have
that
we
get
from
HUD
has
been
that
way.
For
the
last
20
years.
N
We
haven't
gotten
that
another
allotment
of
those
because
our
population
has
been
increased
and
so
that's
an
issue
of
not
having
in
some
case
subsidies
go
around
for
all
the
people
that
actually
need
them,
and
so
in
this
one
more
thing
about
the
project-based
voucher.
You
can
also
use
the
project-based
voucher
in
development,
because
you
can
use
those
project-based
vouchers
to
assist
you
in
meeting
your
financial
needs,
because
those
vouchers
actually
help
meet
the
Delta
between
what
the
actual
rent
is
and
what
the
person
can
actually
pay.
N
So
we
understand
I
hope
you
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
the
housing
food
loss
program,
and
now
you
have
to
get
more
than
just
the
bricks
and
sticks
of
it
to
talk
about
the
other
opportunities
that
are
available
to
help
for
that
program.
We
have
an
opportunity
balancer,
where
we
have
we're
moving
families
and
to
higher
opportunity
ears.
N
Why
we're
moving
families
into
higher
opportunity
areas,
we're
seeing
through
the
Chinese
study
that
moving
people
in
the
high
up
canaries
improve
their
economic
mobility,
and
so
we
have
37
of
those
balances
that
have
been
now
placed
at
high
for
30
years
throughout
the
Mecklenburg
County.
We
are
moving
more
agency,
which
means
that
we
have
some
flexibility,
20
pounds
of
federal
regulations,
and
we
have
a
supportive
services
program
with
a
work
requirement
where
we
have
case
managers
that
work
with
our
residents
and
they
do
everything
from
helping
them
assist
with
childcare,
education,
transportation.
N
One
of
the
barriers
repeat
that
preparing
them
to
actually
be
able
to
go
to
work
services
to
help
them
move
from
dependency
benefits.
We
also
in
the
same
housing
talk
about
the
program
and
has
loved
versatility,
as
you
can
see,
is
that
we
have
an
emotion
problem.
So
it's
more
than
just
rental
assistance.
It
provides
an
opportunity
for
families
to
achieve
the
American
dream
of
homeownership
by
taking
that
Housing
Choice
Voucher
this
using
round
numbers.
Let's
say
that
bouncers
work,
500
the
rezident
themselves,
are
$1500
a
month.
N
You're
able
to
couple
those
two
together
turn
it
into
$2,000
five
for
a
mortgage,
and
we
have
24
photos
that
we
have
companies
move
from
being
a
renter
to
a
homeowner.
As
of
last
year,
the
program
itself
we've
been
looking
at
an
innocent
program.
For
the
last
three
years,
we've
been
working
with
the
great
Charlotte
Apartment
Association
to
develop
some
of
these
enhancements
I'll
quickly
run
through
some
of
them
who
get
to
Q&A.
N
We
have
a
250
dollar
signing
bonus
now
for
apartments
and
or
single-family
homes
that
signed
on
to
us
to
house
our
residents.
We
also
providing
a
funding
bonus
for
individuals,
while
you
in
between
leasing
our
units.
If
you
leads
to
another
housing
sort
of
gouge,
the
participant
will
pay
the
rent.
During
that
time,
during
that
period
of
time
that
you're
actually
simply
getting
the
unit
ready,
I
also
have
a
risk
and
damage
fund
that
we
have
that's
a
thousand
dollars,
so
that
the
residents
should
happen
to
damage
your
unit.
N
On
top
of
the
security
positives,
you
already
have
we're
also
an
additional
thousand
dollars
that
aren't
sufficient.
Our
inspection
processes
used
to
be
basically
every
year,
remove
those
there
for
two
years
and
an
inspection
process,
pushing
pool
with
the
private
sector
as
always,
then
that
in
some
cases
it
was
I
think
a
little
difficult
for
them
to
understand
how
we're
doing
this
while
we're
doing
the
inspectors,
and
so
now,
if
you
should
an
inspection,
what
you
could
do
with
centric
future
of
the
items
at
faithlessness
right
and
just
email.
N
H
N
N
C
M
C
Of
the
things
we
hear
about
building
affordable
housing,
especially
for
30%,
if
that
is
too
expensive
to
do,
would
the
project
voucher
could
developers
work
with
in
livin'
to
bridge
that
gap?
How,
or
can
you
explain
how
that
would
bridge
the
gap
for
developers
in
order
to
be
able
to
afford
to
build
the
affordable
housing
right.
N
So
yes,
they
can
and
right
now
we
have
a
relationship
with
the
city
where
we're
actually
providing
36
project-based
vouchers
to
the
housing
trust
fund.
If
those
Unison
would
be
in
Hobbiton
theatres,
okay,
so
why
are
we
doing
that,
though?
Okay?
So,
basically
you
work
about
that
tenant
based
optical
for
yeah,
4,500
of
right.
B
N
A
project-based
voucher
is
basically
just
taking
a
10
based
voucher,
okay
and
moving
it
now
an
actual
project.
So
it's
not
an
added
subsidy,
it
is
simply
just
taking
the
4500
and
take
one
away
right,
and
so
now
you
have
4999
right
and
so
right
now
we
have
residents
living
within
the
city.
The
question
is
highly
moving
to
higher
up
within
the
area
then
make
sure
that
they
have
and
the
children
have
a
better
opportunity
as
they
move
up
the
second
not
flatter.
That
was
one
well.
N
The
sub
D
itself
covered
the
gap
between
what
it
cost
actually
operator,
unit,
okay
and
what
the
red
think
invented,
and
so
what
that
means
is
they're
able
to
now
actually
get
more
debt
because
of
the
income
that
the
housing
tourists
out
or
the
project-based
voucher
provides
in
that
particular
unit,
and
so
it
makes
it
now
feasible
to
develop
it
because
they
have
the
rental
subsidy
to
be
able
to
offset
the
construction
profit
and
a
bit.
This
is
a.
M
C
N
L
Yes
ma'am,
so
what
mr.
Meacham
is
referring
to
is
a
fairly
new
agreement.
I
think
mr.
Meechum
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
in
kaien,
we've
been
doing
this
for
about
two
years
now,
so
we
have
implemented
that
partnership
and
those
vouchers
are
currently
being
used
to
leverage
further
leverage,
your
Housing
Trust
Fund
dollars.
D
Right
well,
first
of
all,
mr.
Meechum,
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
for
in
living
it
being
such
a
great
partner
to
our
homeless,
housing
agencies
and
I'm,
making
homelessness
priority
for
I'm
with
the
Housing
Authority,
so
I
want
to
actually
so
through.
The
cares
ad
we're
getting
some
funding
to
do
several
things
around
homelessness.
Our
full
up,
Olivia
with
you
guys,
are
getting
resources
from
the
federal
cares
Act,
and
will
we
see
more
vouchers
and
to
respond
to
Kovac
19
in.
N
Everybody
stigma
involved
in
those
things.
So
that's
what
it's
really
for
is
no
additional
balance.
That
was
something
we
were
really
asking
for.
Maybe
could
be
in
the
next
up
a
bill,
but
we
have
not
seen
any
indication
yet
they
will
add
additional
vouchers
as
a
part
of
that,
because
I
think
the
home
permit.
She
is
they've
had
a
paper.
Those
doctors
over
the
next
10-15
years
and
I
think
that's
been
one
of
the
style
involved.
Thank.
A
G
Cummings,
yes
thanks!
Yes,
thank
you.
Mr.
mayor
I
appreciate
the
update,
so
it's
the
reason
that
HUD
hasn't
given
Charlotte
additional
vouchers
over
the
last
20
years.
Is
it
because
of
the
the
unused
vouchers
that,
because
the
landlord's
wouldn't
accept
them
or
is
it
something
else,
that's
driving
that
and
will
the
new
rules
that
you
couldn't
do
place
within
Lydian?
Will
that
help
repel
some
of
the
usage
of
the
vouchers
that
are
out
there?
Well.
N
It's
not
going
to
be
the
last
things
at
first,
we're,
definitely
hoping
that
all
the
incentives
that
we
have
put
out
there
because
make
it
easier
for
our
family
to
find
housing
in
the
marketplace.
That's
true
get
barrier
I
mean
right
now
it
takes
some
individuals
roughly
about
75
days
behind
unit
over
class.
You
know
over
the
years
does
it
only
have
a
certain
amount
of
time
to
actually
find
a
unit?
N
As
far
as
one
comes
to,
why
we're
not
receiving
additional
value,
really,
that
is
a
priority
of
Congress
right
and
so
the
real
issue
is
populations
are
growing
and
as
they're
growing
more
of
those
families
are
actually
$50,000
below
right,
and
so
those
individuals
are
qualified
or
assistance
like
our
vertical
Assistance
Program.
It
just
has
not
been
a
focus
at
to
increase
that
number.
Okay,
it's
been
steadily
at
that
and
look.
E
Yeah,
just
remembering
that
you
know,
the
point
of
this
task
force
is
to
find
solutions
that
keep
people
housed
continuously
and
hopefully
permanently
through
this
Kovach
crisis.
I
think
I'm
source
of
income
discrimination
is
an
important
topic
to
to
attack.
There
are
many
people
in
our
city
who
would
be
able
we
have
secured
housing
if
it
were
not
for
the
discrimination,
the
legal
discrimination
that
they
think
so.
My
question
to
the
task
force.
E
It's
just
something
that
and
living
in
other
groups
have
caught
up
to
City
Council
before
something
that
I've
tried
to
get
onto
our
legislative
agenda
ass
this
year
it
worked,
but
if
there
is
an
appetite
to
make
a
statement
or
a
recommendation
to
to
carry
to
roughly
two
to
paint
the
legal
source
income
discrimination,
because
that
is
something
that
can
that
can
help
us
in
this
pandemic.
Of
with
of
a
pen
and
I
would
like
to
get
I
wouldn't
I.
A
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Mr.
Winston.
That's
actually
already
in
our
work,
client
and
another
subgroup
will
be
taking
up
that
issue,
source
of
income
discrimination,
and
so
it's
work
that
we're
going
to
address
and
and
I
concur
with
you
and
welcome
the
conversation
at
the
appropriate
time.
But
that's
something.
A
E
O
J
Things
that
we
are
obviously
undertaking
to
work
for
getting
it
included
in
the
city's
ordinance
on
fair
housing.
That
was
one
of
our
targets
and
the
objective
and
I
agree
with
councilmember
Braxton
that
we
do
need
to
include
it
in
our
legislative
agenda.
I
think
there
there
is
some
potential
model
legislation
in
the
works
that
we're
exploring
and
it
may
be
prudent
for
us
to
continue
to
work
on
that
before
we
move
forward
with
any
recommendations
at
the
state
level.
J
Four,
if
you
don't
mind,
while
I'm
here
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
the
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we
do
tie
the
use
of
any
sort
of
subsidies
that
the
city
provides
to
some
obligation
by
the
recipients
when
it's
a
landlord
that
they
would
agree
to
accept.
Housing
Choice
vouchers
as
part
of
the
condition
of
receiving
any
subsidies
from
us,
Housing,
Trust,
Fund
dollars
or
any
other
dollars
that
are
related
to
rental
assistance.
J
If
you're
willing
to
take
some
dollars
from
us,
you
should
be
willing
to
take
any
of
our
dollars,
and
that
is
a
subsidy
that's
available
and
should
be
used.
So
hopefully,
as
we
look
at
the
rest
of
these
programs,
we
will
keep
that
in
mind
and
also
make
sure
that
they're
included
as
a
policy
and
not
just
as
a
practice.
That's.
E
A
that's
a
great
point:
Housing
Trust
Fund
has
already
come
with
that
stipulation,
but
I
would
ask
for
clarification
around.
Will
we
just
record
up
the
ten
million
dollars
that
we
I
just
recommended
a
Hurley
in
this
meeting?
If
that
same
stipulation
applies
to
landlords
except
in
rental
relief?
That's
a
great
question.
A
See
if
we
can
get
a
little
fat
in
order,
and
so
we
can
process
what
everyone
is
accessing
and
requesting,
so
let's
go
back
to
income
source
discrimination.
I
agree
with
that
recommendation.
Moving
forward
that
mr.
Lindsey
discussed
also
timing
is
really
important,
while
the
legislature
are
in
session.
That
item
will
probably
is
best
suited
for
a
long
session
where
we'll
actually
be
taken
up
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
want
not
only
for
it
to
be
on
the
agenda,
but
for
people
to
discuss
it
and
I.
A
C
I
set
into
motion
I
would
also
want
to
add
that
criminal
background.
You
know,
I
have
a
passion
for
that
for
advocating
for
formerly
incarcerated,
so
we
perceive
ordinance
proposal
or
language
proposals
from
the
community
fortune
or
regarding
the
source
of
income
discrimination
and
also
the
criminal
background.
So
I
I
just
have
a
question.
I
know
that
that
the
recommendations
from
the
task
force
were
presented
to
Council,
because
the
city
staff
and
the
chair
were
able
to
determine
what
the
task
force
wanted.
C
Although
committees
are
still
working
on
the
nuts
and
bolts
or
different
recommendations,
so
I
would
second,
this
motion
I
do
respect
your
experience
so
Malcolm.
If
you
think
that
the
longer
term,
the
legislation
or
the
session,
it's
the
best
time
to
present
it.
But
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
address
this,
we
know
it's
a
critical
need.
We
know
with
colvett
it's
exacerbating
the
knee
and
I
just
housing
advocates
that
it's
a
priority
in
our
community,
so
I.
Second,
mr.
winston
motion
all.
A
B
Sir
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I'm,
just
trying
to
I,
guess
get
reclassification.
This
is
something
that's
being
discussed
in
one
of
our
working
groups,
and
so
what
was
the
process
we
had?
I
just
don't
understand
if
this
is
being
discussed,
a
working
group
and
we're
planning
to
have
them
present.
Those
discussions
to
us
are
we
voting
on
something
before
the
working
group
presents.
It.
A
A
Just
saying
that
the
timing
of
it
is
probably
better
better
suited
for
a
discussion
under
commissioners
Lindsay's
working
group
where
we
can
get
public
input
and
support
the
same
as
we've
done
before
bill
support
in
the
community
with
habitat
and
others
who
are
in
favor
of
it.
I
know
the
Housing
Authority
ie
are
living
in
once
it
is
well
and
so
I
think
we
just
need
to
process
it
differently.
Notwithstanding
the
urge
of
seeing
the
community
and
I
think
it's
scheduled
for
sometime
in
July
and
again,
procedurally
and
I'm
just
sharing
knowledge.
A
B
I
would
just
and
I'm
fully
supportive
personally
of
income
source
discrimination
being
quick
put
in
place
so
that
folks
can't
be
turned
away
because
they
have
vouchers
I
a
couple
of
things:
one
I,
don't
I
kind
of
feel
like
letting
on
this.
That
we've
asked
rich
or
Lindsay
is
working
group
to
work
on
this,
then,
to
me,
it's
a
little
out
of
order
to
vote
on
it
before
we
allow
them
to
even
do
so
and
presented
to
us
and
I.
B
Don't
know
if
everybody
who's
going
to
be
a
part
of
this
discussion
as
familiar
with
the
issue,
as
some
of
us
on
council
are
so
I
would
be
inclined
to
allow
them
to
do
that.
Despite
my
support
for
the
issue
in
general
and
to
if
and
I,
don't
want
to
put
her
on
the
spots
that
she's
welcome
to
pass,
but
it
was
widened
as
a
an
opinion
on
what
the
right
course
of
action
is
here
symbolically
supporting.
B
It
is
one
thing,
but
if
it
puts
us
in
a
weaker
position
to
actually
achieve
it,
then
I
think
that
it
kind
of
defeats
the
purpose
so
I
don't
want
to
lower
our
chances
of
success
just
due
to
eagerness
to
symbolically
support
it.
So
if
this
lineman
is
comfortable
telling
us
what
she
thinks,
the
stronger
strategy
or
path
forward
is
I'm
being
sure
to
hear
it.
Thank.
L
You
mr.
Ellison
I
would
agree
with
what
you
just
articulated
as
well
I'm,
very
supportive
in
that
I.
Don't
think
people
should
be
discriminated
on,
but
I
think
that
we
should
get
some
intelligence
from
our
legislative
staff
here
at
the
city
and
I
do
also
support
building
a
stronger
coalition
across
the
state
that,
in
hopes
would
yield
us
some
success
on
the
issue.
L
A
F
All
right,
councilmember
Eccleston,
took
my
comment.
So
I
was
that
was
I
wanted
to
say
that
I'd
support
it,
but
I
do
think
if
we
need
to
move
it
up
on
the
work
plan
because
of
a
sense
of
urgency.
I'd
be
fine
with
moving
something
within
the
work
plan,
but
I
do
think
it
should
come
through
that
that
groups
and
as
a
landlord
landlord
that
takes
section
8
vouchers
and
willingly
does
so
I'm,
certainly
in
support
of
others.
People
doing
it
as
well.
A
F
H
A
K
C
And
mr.
chair
Graham
I'm,
sorry
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
I
what
I
understood
that
council
member
Winston's
motion
was
to
move
it
forward
to
Council
to
to
lobby
to
begin
the
discussion.
We
could
work
out.
The
nuts
and
bolts
from
from
the
subcommittee
and
I
feel
that
this
is
the
same
thing
that
was
done
with
the
recommendations
we've
had
the
framework
and
staff
was
able
to
move
forward
and
we're
still
getting
information
and
recommendations
from
the
task
force
and
the
subcommittee's.
So
this
would
just
need
to
begin
the
lobbying
process.
A
L
Just
really
quickly,
this
is
a
follow-up
to
last
week's
meeting.
Mr.
Ellison,
you
asked
a
great
question
about
kind
of
what
was
the
staffs
perspective
on
the
data
around
affordable
housing
that
was
presented.
We've
done
some
work
based
on
that
discussion
and
I,
just
like
to
introduce
Rebecca
Hefner,
who
is
our
very
competent
and
capable
Data
Manager
here
to
offer
some
explanation
about
how
we
measure
affordability
in
the
city
and
what
I
would
say
just
just
to
tee
her
up.
Is
that
affordability?
L
We
look
at
it
more
so
as
a
relationship,
we
look
at
it
based
on
a
couple
of
things,
kind
of
what's
happening
in
Charlotte
today,
meaning
who
lives
here
and
what
what
how
that
matches
with
the
housing
stock.
We
also
when
you're
talking
about
affordable
units
in
the
community.
We
look
at
households,
meaning
the
number
and
the
size
and
the
income
of
those
households.
We
looked
at.
We
look
at
the
actual
housing
units
and
then
we
also
look
at
that.
Look
at
the
area
median
income,
and
we
also
remember
that
that
relationship
is
fluid.
L
P
Thank
You
Pam
good
afternoon,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today,
I
work
as
a
part
of
the
Department
of
innovation
and
technology,
but
I
did
spend
a
couple
of
years
of
my
city,
career
in
housing
and
neighborhood
services.
So
you'll
probably
notice
in
this
presentation
that
I'm
particularly
passionate
when
I'm
talking
about
housing
data.
P
As
Pam
noted
there
will
be
a
lot
of
numbers
in
this
presentation
and
will
certainly
provide
you
with
the
data
and
the
methods
and
follow-up
if
it's
something
you
want
to
really
dig
into,
but
if,
but
you
don't
have
to
kind
of
track.
All
of
those
numbers
today,
I
really
just
want
to
focus
on
the
concepts
of
how
we
measure
affordable
rental
housing
in
a
way
that's
meaningful
to
staff
and
helps
them
make
decisions
about
housing,
programs
and
strategies
next
slide.
Please
so.
P
We
report
regularly
to
you
on
the
number
of
housing
units
that
we
create
or
preserve,
but
it
certainly
begs
the
question:
you
know
how
many
affordable
rental
housing
units
have
we
lost
and-
and
the
next
question
is,
can
we
track
that
so
gonna
respond
to
that
in
two
ways?
First,
there
is
no
data
set
or
combination
of
data
sets
that
can
really
answer
accurately
on
a
unit
level.
How
many
individual
specific
units
we
have
lost
we
do
have.
We
do
have
lots
of
data
sets
but
they're
incomplete.
P
You
know
we
can
track
the
number
of
demolished
units.
We
can
track
some
of
the
rents
across
Charlotte.
We
have
good
data
on
large-scale
NOAA
complexes,
but
we
really.
We
have
only
average
rent
information.
We
can
see
trends,
but
it's
not
granular
enough
to
track
on
a
unit
level.
We
also
have
about
30%
of
our
affordable
rental
housing,
our
single-family
housing
units
and
so
we're
unable
to
track
kind
of
a
comprehensive
rent
database
for
those
units.
P
So
the
second
part
of
my
response
is
and
okay.
What
do
we
really
need
to
know
in
in
order
to
inform
our
programs
and
strategies
and
and
the
question
that
we
ask
in
order
to
do
that
from
the
data
is
what
is
happening
in
Charlotte
in
the
relationship
between
the
people
who
live
here
and
our
housing
stock,
so
this
is.
This
is
really
useful
to
understand,
because
if
you
understand
it,
you
can
respond
directly
to
it
with
housing
investments
you
can
guide
decision
making,
and
this
is
the
best
part.
P
It's
a
question
that
we
have
the
data
to
answer
so
well.
I
mean
almost
I'll
note
one
limitation
here
suppose,
especially
for
Deronda,
but
also
quite
a
bit
of
the
discussion
today
about
homelessness.
You
know
we,
we
do
not
have
this
data
for
households
that
are
not
currently
in
housing.
So
there
is
an
there's,
a
kind
of
inherent
undercount
in
the
need
for
housing
at
30%
and
below,
because
we
do
not
capture
the
homeless
population
in
in
these
data.
So,
as
Pam
said,
we're
really
looking
at
this
relationship.
P
What's
the
relationship
between
households,
housing
units
and
then
broadly,
the
area
median
income,
and
that
relationship
is
really
fluid.
People
move
here
and
they
move
away
housing
buildings,
housing
units
are
built
and
demolished
and
they
age
rents
go
up.
Sometimes
they
go
down
not
as
often
units
are
converted
to
rental
back
to
owner
occupancy.
Babies
are
born,
kids
go
off
to
college.
These
are
all
factors
that
influence
affordability,
because
the
size
of
the
household
and
its
total
income.
You
know
promotion.
P
P
So
what
we're
trying
to
figure
out
then,
is
if
we
account
for
all
of
these
changes-
and
we
look
at
points
in
time
which
we
look
at
every
year.
Are
there
more
or
fewer
affordable
units
in
the
City
of
Charlotte?
Are
there
more
or
fewer
households
in
need
of
affordable
housing
and
then
how
do
the
households
relate
to
the
housing
units?
So
are
the
households
that
need
affordable
housing
in
the
housing
units
that
are
affordable
to
them?
We
talk
about
that
as
rental
bache
next
slide,
please.
P
So
we
can
track
these
net
impacts
right.
It's
do
it's
difficult
for
us
to
know
the
specific
number
of
affordable
units
that
are
lost
day
to
day
or
year
over
year,
but
we
contract
the
net
impacts
on
demand
and
related
to
supply,
and
so
we
calculate
this
every
year
using
census
census
data
called
the
PUMS
data,
it's
Micro
data
and
so
there's
a
there's,
a
lag.
So
what
you're
gonna
see
today
is
really
the
latest
year
of
data
available.
P
That's
2018
new
numbers
are
published
each
October,
we
run
the
scripts
and
we
send
this
information
to
housing
staff
to
let
them
know
what
the
trends
are
and
and
and
if
there's
any
adjustments
that
need
to
be
made.
So
the
the
first
thing
to
do
is
you
take
a
look
at
the
sample
and
you
assign
each
household
to
an
ami
level
based
on
their
size,
household
size
and
income,
so
the
number
of
people
and
their
total
income
assign
each
housing
unit
to
an
ami
level
based
on
its
bedroom,
size
and
gross
rent.
P
So
you
can
make
a
lot
of
adjustments
for
things
things
in
the
data,
but
it
we've
run
it
pretty
automatically.
Now
next
slide,
please.
So
the
question
arose
really
looking
at
2014
to
2018.
How
has
the
demand
for
affordable
rental
housing
in
Charlotte
changed
over
time?
This
is
really
about
what
housing
products
people
need
and
the
though
the
positive
news
here
is
that
over
the
last
five
years
at
30%
and
below
am
I,
the
number
total
number
of
households
at
that
level
has
gone
down
around
7,000.
P
You
know
there's
some
there's
some
plus
or
minus
margin
of
error
in
these
data,
so
I'm
gonna
round
when
I
talk
when
I
say
the
numbers,
but
there's
a
corresponding
increase
in
the
number
of
households
at
the
next
two
levels
of
AMI,
particularly
at
31
to
50
percent
and
and
then
of
course,
you
can
see
there.
The
total
increase
in
number
of
households
next
slide.
P
What
we're
really
seeing
is
when
you
look
at
these
two
kind
of
slope,
graphs
together,
is
that
we're
already
seeing
a
gap
on
the
previous
slide.
The
blue
line
was
where
the
grey
line
is
on
this
one,
and
vice
versa.
The
red
and
yellow
lines
were
lower.
So
what
we're
really
thinking,
then,
is
okay?
How
do
we
smoosh
these
two
things
together
to
determine
what's
the
gap
in
affordable
rental
housing
next
slide,
please.
P
P
However,
constrained
those
choices
may
be
lots
of
households
rent
up,
you
know
in
an
apartment,
a
unit
that
is
more
than
their
ami
level
that
could
be
to
access
amenities
or
to
be
in
a
particular
location,
family
or
jobs,
or
just
because
there's,
a
lack
of
units,
other
other
households
might
be
renting
down
so
they're,
renting
at
a
lower
ami
level,
saves
the
money.
That's
a
great
strategy,
also
there's
a
lack
of
units
at
the
high
end.
P
In
addition,
some
households
who
just
stay
put
and
whose
fluid
relationship
to
affordable
housing
has
changed,
may
no
longer
be
in
a
rent,
a
rental
match.
So
that's
that's
what
we
call
it.
Hud
HUD
calls
it
affordable
and
available
when,
when,
when
a
unit,
specific
ami
level
is
occupied
by
a
household
of
that
same
level,
but
in
this
presentation
we're
referring
to
it
as
a
renting
match,
so
there's
renting
up,
there's
renting
down
and
there's
renting
match.
P
So
what
what
we
then
do
is
put
all
of
that
together
and
look
at
how
has
the
affordability
gap
changed
over
time
and
for
those
of
you
who
were
here
when,
when
the
most
recent
housing
framework
was
adopted,
this
is
the
same
information
that
was
used
to
inform
that
housing
framework.
This
is
just
an
update
to
those
numbers
next
slide.
Please.
P
So
similar
to
the
previous
graphs
that
you
saw
earlier
in
the
presentation,
the
housing
gap
at
30%
and
below
has
gone
down
correspondingly
at
31
to
50%.
It's
gone
up,
declined
a
little
bit
at
51
288
down
to
where
we're
almost
even
there,
but
the
gap
above
80
percent.
Well,
it
went
down
slightly.
It
continues
to
be
high
and
that
puts
availability
pressure
on
the
lower
in
lower
cost
rental
units
next
slide.
P
That's
the
green
part
on
the
bottom
of
the
stacked
bar
or
households,
housing
units
that
are
occupied
by
households,
renting
up
are
renting
down,
so
these
red
numbers
represent
the
gap
and
that
gap
is
the
same
as
the
the
numbers
you
saw
on
the
previous
slide.
So
it's
the
difference
in
the
number
of
renter
households
and
the
number
of
units
that
are
occupied
by
households
at
that
level
of
AMI
next
slide.
P
You
so
so
what
I
want
to
just
quickly
end
on
then,
is
just
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
these
data
really
align
with
recommendations
and
and
the
work
that
our
housing
programs
already
do.
So
you
know
there
is
this
mismatch,
there's
a
gap
and
a
mismatch,
and
so
you
know
we
can't
just
pick
up
households
and
and
move
them
around.
But,
as
you
were
talking
earlier,
we
do
have
a
really
effective
tool
and
that's
the
ability
to
income
restrict
and-
and
so
so
what
we're
next
slide
please.
P
P
So
so,
how
do
we
get
those
units
either
to
income,
restrict
them
so
that
they're,
lower
ami
or
move
people
into
them
that
the
Housing
Services
Manager
Warren
Woodman
is
worked
with
me
a
lot
to
understand
these
data
over
the
years
and
he
frames
it
as
ad
protect
move.
So
you
want
to
add
ad,
so
there's,
certainly
a
gap
at
the
lower
ends
of
a
among.
So
you
want
to
add
new
units
there
to
fill
the
gap.
P
The
market
is
clearly
working
hard
to
fill
that
gap
that
you
see
it
over
80%
ami
in
the
hope
is
then
that
some
higher
income
units
who
are
in
the
gray
bar
at
80
percent
may
choose
to
move
up
and
free
up
some
space
there
and,
and
then
the
protect
is
really
when
you
rehab
and
acquire
you're
talking
about
Noah
acquisition
and
then
income
restricting
that
can
be
income
restricted
over
time
to
lower
lower
ami
households
or
paired
up
with
vouchers.
So
all
of
the
things
that
you've
been
talking
about
today
next
slide,
please.
P
This
is
just
a
quick
graphic
to
show
you
where
housing
programs
are
really
responsive
to
the
gap
and
the
mismatch.
Trust
fund
investments,
of
course
go
across
that
at
protect
move
strategies,
a
lot
of
the
acquisition
and
Rehab
under
the
protect
and
home
purchase
assistance,
and
you
talked
about
affordable
for
sale
housing.
It
both
income,
restricts
for
sale
housing
and
makes
it
more
affordable.
Excuse
me
sorry,
it
makes
it
more
affordable
to
households,
but
it
also
can
help
by
moving
people
into
owner-occupied
units
and
creating
new
opportunities
for
rentals
and
income
restriction.
P
So
last
slide,
please!
Oh
sorry,
one
one
more!
There
you
go!
Thank
you
one
more
sake,
so
just
just
to
note,
for
example,
the
bottom
there
you
can
see
the
income
restricted
units
that
are
created
or
approved
housing
trust
fund.
This
includes
ones
that
have
been
recently
approved,
but
not
constructed.
Yet
they
are
really
contributing
to
closing
that
affordability
gap
both
by
creating
new
supply
and
with
the
income
restriction
helping
to
improve
that
match.
P
So
that's
just
a
quick
summary
when
you,
when
you
look
at
the
overall,
affordable
housing
gap,
that's
but
that's
the
actual
number
that
we
look
at
year-over-year.
It's
almost
32,000
units
affordable
to
households
that
less
than
50%
am
I,
and
so
what
we're
really
looking
for
is.
Do
the
programs
and
strategies
that
we
put
in
place
help
that
number
to
go
down
so
lower
the
number,
the
better,
the
better
of
the
match,
not
not
just
not
just
the
ability
to
build
units,
but
also
protect
and
move?
Of
course,
this
is
a
top-level
summary.
P
P
This
is
the
way
that,
at
this
at
the
city,
we
measure
the
change
in
affordable
rental
units
and
and
use
those
numbers
by
working
through
them,
with
housing
staff,
to
inform
inform
programs
and
also
just
great
to
hear
that
the
recommendations
y'all
are
making
are
very
aligned
with
where
we
are
on
the
data.
Of
course,
there's
a
lot
to
learn
about
the
impacts,
ghovat
19
and
what
look?
How
that
will
change
the
need
in
our
community?
P
B
Thank
you,
this
chair,
this
is
a
great
presentation,
great
data
and
even
just
the
stop
line.
Summary
I
think
is
going
to
take
some
time
for
us
to
be
able
to
digest.
If
you
could
go
back
to
the
first,
they
were
back
to
back,
slides,
probably
the
third,
to
half
way
into
the
presentation.
You
could
pull
the
I'd
like
to
ask
a
couple
of
quick
questions
about
that.
I
think.
B
We
go
so,
let's
see
this
is
demand,
for
that
was
the
first
one
right,
the
next
one
supply
it
so
on
this
one
well,
first
of
all,
is
it
safe
to
assume
that
there
are
close
to
no
units
priced
at
the
30%
below?
Am
I
level
in
our
communities
that
are
naturally
at
that
price
point
now
and
that
almost
all
those
would
be
subsidized
in
some
way
or
another.
P
P
It's
pretty
close,
so
in
the
data
we
can't
would
can't
differentiate
between
no
an
income
restricted
housing,
but
we
can
see
that
about
half
of
the
units
at
30%
and
below
is
the
same
number
as
30%
and
below
units
that
Housing
Trust
Fund
has
created.
Now,
that's
not
the
universe
of
30%
and
below
units,
so
it's
probably
pretty
close.
The
other
thing,
I
would
say,
though,
is
there,
are
also
housing
units
in
Charlotte
that
are
occupied
without
payment
of
rent.
P
So
if
you,
if
you
have
a
housing
and
say
you
have
a
family
member
who's
living
there,
but
not
paying
rent
that
counts
as
a
30%
and
below
unit,
so
we
can't
answer
the
question
specifically
mr.
Eccleston,
but
even
even
from
the
data
person
I
would
say
it's
safe
to
assume
that
you're,
probably
pretty
close
to
not
having
any
naturally
occurring
at
that
level.
I'm
just.
P
So
it
is
when
you,
when
you
think
about
what
you're,
seeing
from
the
housing
stock
side,
two
things
to
remember
this
one
we're
looking
at
need
or
demand
is
really
looking
just
at
the
measurement
of
the
number
of
households
at
30%
and
below
and
in
the
data.
That's
going
down.
There's
a
you
know
the
thinking
about
the
lag.
The
economy
is
really
improving.
Over
this
time
period,
2014
to
2018
households
may
be
low.
The
households
at
the
lowest
ami
may
be
getting
displaced
from
the
city
over
this
time
period.
B
So
it's
almost
kind
of
like
when
someone
who's
out
of
the
job,
so
I
was
looking
for
a
job
they're
no
longer
counted
as
unemployed
at
some
point,
potentially
or
or
I
guess
if,
if
their
wages
have
increased
in
their
at
the
31
percent,
all
of
a
sudden
the
demand
for
that
unit
goes
creates
the
lower
one
in
the
yellow
line
and
then
and
that
demand
is
counted
in
the
31
to
50
percent.
At
that
point,
this.
P
Is
this
is
primarily
an
issue?
If
you
look
at
this
of
that
30%
below
moving
up
and
probably
like
you
say,
only
a
little
bit
into
the
31
to
50
right,
because
if
you're
renting
a
50%
unit-
and
you
are
at
32
percent
ami-
you
might
be
in
the
right
slot,
but
you're
still
going
to
be
cost
burdened.
When
we
look
at
the
cost
burdened
day
of
the
cost,
percentage
of
cost
burdened
households
continues
to
rise,
and
the
other
thing
again,
I'll
just
emphasize
that
we're
not
seeing
in
these
numbers
is
homelessness.
P
B
Might
be
interesting
to
let
overlay
this
these
charts
with
our
point
in
time
count
that
measures
the
amount
of
homeless.
That's
where
people
are
experiencing
in
Charlotte
to
see
if
our
people
are
people,
slowly
climbing
up
the
ladder
and
moving
from
the
30
and
below
to
31
to
50,
or
are
they
falling
off
the
ladder
and
going
from
the
30
and
below
to
completely
housing,
insecure
or
homeless,
and.
B
Well,
whatever,
whatever
the
question
this,
this
slide
Paul's
need
to
have
a
slip.
My
line,
so
I'll
come
back
later,
might
think
of
it,
but
I
appreciate
it,
and
I
would
like
to
get
the
data
underneath
all
this,
so
that
it's
something
that
when
we're
not
we're
not
site
on
time,
we
can
all
dig
into
this
task
force.
Members
and
council
members,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
good
a
lot
of
useful
information
here.
So
thank
you
point.
A
J
If
we
were
trying
to
subsidize
and
build
new
units,
so
I
think
this
really
does
emphasize
the
importance
of
not
just
relying
on
how
do
we
use
the
city
to
address
the
problem
in
that
we
have
to
work
very
diligently
to
engage
the
private
sector.
We
need
everybody
working
on.
How
do
we
address
this
problem?
J
I'm
afraid
that
some
of
those
folks
who
are
in
that
30%
in
below
have
fallen
off
because
they've
become
unemployed
and
weren't
counted
as
income
earners,
which
is
the
other
piece
of
this,
is
that
those
people
that
we're
talking
about
at
these
income
levels
are
actually
really
the
working
poor.
These
are
people
who
are
working
every
day
and
just
can't
seem
to
make
it
because
of
the
wages
that
they
earn.
J
So
I
just
want
everybody
to
kind
of
get
a
sense
of
the
scope
of
the
problem
and
understand
the
importance
of
us
really
working
to
forge
partnerships
with
the
private
sector
and
do
what
we
can
to
use
our
dollars
to
leverage
what
the
private
sector
is
doing
and
remove
those
kind
of
framework
mentalities
that
we've
had
in
this
box
before
of
not
doing
that
and
using
our
dollars
as
leverage.
So
those
are
my
thoughts.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
Commissioner
Lindsay.
We
will
circle
back
with
with
the
data
for
an
for
further
deep
dive.
We
can
schedule
that
for
sure-
and
we
have
one
more
speaker
and
I
know-
it's
been
a
long
meeting
thanks
everyone
for
for
your
patience,
but
this
is
regarding
the
mediation
and
we
wanted
to
bring
that
for
you
to
continue
that
conversation
that
we
had
last
week.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
miss
Williams.
Q
A
M
A
Q
Certainly,
yes,
we
were
specifically
today
to
talk
about
the
about
the
court
backlog
of
cases
and
how
dispute
settlement
program
can
assist.
With
that
we
are
prepared
to
assist
the
court
in
handling
the
following
types
of
cases:
the
landlord
tenant
cases
that
have
not
yet
come
into
the
court
system.
We
are
trying
to
reach
as
many
landlords
and
tenants
to
offer
mediation
to
address
concerns
such
as
rent
payments,
security
deposits,
property
damage,
etc
before
they
get
into
the
court
system.
Q
However,
we're
also
prepared
to
adjust
those
eviction,
cases
that
have
already
been
filed
in
discussions
with
the
courts.
It
appears
that
the
seven
day
turnaround
on
behalf
cases
process
may
change
to
60
days,
which
would
allow
mediation
to
be
a
more
viable
options
in
these
cases.
So
we
are
prepared
to
do
cases
before
they
get
into
the
court
system
as
well
as
once
they
get
in
into
the
court
system
to
assist
as
many
clients
as
we
can.
Q
We're
also
able
to
do
small
claims
cases
filed
for
money
owed
and
other
miscellaneous
conflicts,
such
as
employer-employee
disputes,
some
roommate
issues,
homeowner
association,
complaints
and
neighbor
complaints
as
well.
Next
slide,
please,
our
mediation
plans
in
regarding
our
mediators
is
currently
we
have
35
that
are
committed
and
prepared
to
provide
sessions,
starting
June,
the
1st.
We
have
another
15
mediators
that
are
committed
to
assist
the
program
over
the
summer
as
their
schedules
allow,
and
we
have
three
currently
that
are
willing
to
do
virtual,
as
well
as
in-person
mediations.
Q
As
long
as
the
social
distance
guidelines
are
filed.
However,
we've
been
told
by
the
courts
that
at
this
time
they
are
minimizing
the
amount
of
traffic
in
the
courts,
so
our
in-person
mediations
may
be
on
hold
for
a
few
more
weeks,
however,
we
will
be
ready
to
go
fully
virtually
on
beginning
June
1st.
We
will
continue
connecting
with
mediators
to
seek
additional
assistance
during
this
time
as
well.
Next
slide,
please
our
mediation
projections
and
these
are
conservative
as
to,
but
we
are
projecting
that
we'll
have
20
mediators
on
any
given
day.
Q
That
would
be
providing
about
60
cases
per
day,
so
Monday
through
Friday,
and
that
would
be
300
mediations
per
week,
which
we
are
expecting
to
serve
a
total
of
600
plus
clients
through
those
mediation
efforts.
Again,
we
have
more
mediators
that
are
on
that
are
committed
to
us
so
that
those
numbers
may
change,
but
on
a
conservative
estimate,
we
feel
that
our
twenty
meters
could
do
three
a
day
which
would
give
us
that
300
case
per
week
a
number,
our
virtual
mediations,
we're
scheduling
them
for
90,
minute
time
slots.
Q
Q
If
there
was
a
case
ran
over
for
per
se
and
then
30
minutes
for
any
cleansing
or
sanitizing
efforts
that
we
would
need
to
do
for
the
room
to
make
it
safe
for
the
next
case
to
go
in
to
do
mediation
and
we're
going
to
be
monitoring
and
scheduling.
That's
monitoring
and
we
anticipate
changes
as
the
co
vid
19
restrictions
left,
but
we
will
be
making
those
changes
as
necessary.
Next
slide,
please.
Q
We
have
provided
virtual
options
for
mediations.
We
have
already
established
secure
conference
lines
for
all
of
our
staff
members.
We've
developed
a
list
of
available
conference
lines
and
codes
for
all
of
our
volunteer
mediators,
so
they
can
host
confidential
calls
and
we've
also
assigned
additional
three
staff
members
allowing
them
with
WebEx
capability,
so
they
can
host
their
own
meetings,
so
they
would
not
have
to
kickoff
for
volunteer
mediators.
We
assigned
a
staff
liaison
to
volunteer
mediators
for
technical
support
as
well.
Next
slide.
Please
reporting
structure
our
statistics
on
the
numbers.
Q
We
continue
to
do
as
well
as
mediation
referrals
received
and
completed.
We
also
can
collect
statistics
on
the
clients
or
serve
as
well
as
the
landlord-tenant
calls
that
we
received,
and
we
take
statistics
based
on
the
cases
received
prior
to
court
involvement
and
after
court
involvement.
So
we
will
continue
to
to
create
those
statistics
and
provide
them
to
the
court
as
they
have
requested.
In
any
cases
that
are
referred
to
our
program.
An
error
will
be
before
to
legal
aid
for
legal
questions,
crisis
assistance.
Q
We
will
be
working
with
them
and
in
hand
to
do
our
mediations
for
some
of
the
individuals
that
may
need
rental
assistance.
However,
if
someone
contacts
our
office
that
just
needs
financial
questions,
we
can
refer
them
to
crisis
assistance
for
help,
as
well
as
there's
the
proposed
hotline
being
created
to
handle
summary
ejectment
Appeals
cases
in
arbitration
cases.
Q
So
if
our,
if
our,
if
our
program
was
to
receive
any
of
those
cases,
we
would
refer
them
to
the
appropriate
hotline,
but
we
are
prepared
to
do
as
many
of
the
landlord-tenant
cases
pre
and
post
court
as
we
can
next
slide.
Please,
our
next
steps,
DSP
we're
currently
I'm,
creating
a
flyer
for
the
clerk's
office
and
the
flyer
will
go
out
into
the
court
notifications
which
is
to
be
distributed
next
week.
We're
also
compiling
a
resource
sheet
for
all
of
our
mediators
to
use
when
needed.
Q
Regarding
some
of
the
relief
during
the
kind
of
in
nineteen
and
emic,
as
well
as
other
resources
that
are
meteors
might
need
to
to
help
with
the
mediations.
We
have
completed
a
win
you
rent
book
that
we
will
be
providing
electronically
to
the
public.
Any
of
our
partnering
agencies,
as
well
as
to
our
mediators
for
assistance
and
we're
also
working
with
the
clerk's
office
to
develop
a
case,
referral
and
completion
paperwork
process.
Q
A
Q
As
I
understand
from
the
court
they're
going
to
be
trying
to
stagger
cases,
so
we're
not
going
to
get
all
the
1800
at
once.
I
understand
that
they're
supposed
to
think
prioritizing
some
other
cases.
We
are
continuously
trying
to
reach
other
other
mediators
that
have
been
involved
with
our
program
to
see
their
availability.
You
have
gotten
all
of
our
staff
involved
that
is
willing
to
assist
us
with
this
process
and,
if
need
be,
you
know,
maybe
you
asking
for
additional
resources
at
a
staff
resources
to
help
us
to
to
accommodate
any
future
influx
of
cases.
Q
E
Q
Sure
we
are,
we
are
trying
to
get
the
word
out
about
our
services
to
as
many
individuals
before
they
enter
the
court
system.
We
work
closely
with
their
magistrate's
office.
We
work
closely
with
the
police
department,
Sheriff's
Department,
to
give
us
cases
prior
to
we've,
been
working
with
the
greater
apartment,
greater
Charlotte,
Apartment,
Association
local
attorneys
delayed.
So
as
much
as
we
can
get
the
the
word
out
about
our
services
and
that
we
can
do
cases
prior
to
even
getting
into
the
court
system
is
our
preference
and
our
goal.
Q
We
think
we
can
reach
more
people
that
way.
We
also
are
going
to
be
marketing
our
services
on
our
website,
but
any
avenues
that
anyone
has
to
to
help
us
to
get
to
get
the
word
out
doing.
Presentations
such
as
this
will
also
help
in
that
in
that
regard,
but
we
are
looking
to
to
try
to
get
these
many
landlords,
many
apartment
complexes.
What
have
you
to
refer
their
cases
to
mediation
as
an
option
prior
to
going
to
that
route?
Q
E
M
I
I'm
happy
to
respond
to
that.
So
I
think
the
real
answer
is
education
and
awareness,
and
the
great
thing
is
that
we,
the
greater
Charlotte
Department
sociation,
are
teaming
up
with
legal
aid
and
Charlotte
Center
for
legal
advocacy
to
host
a
number
of
lunch
and
learns
to
educate
property
owners,
whether
that
single-family
or
multifamily
about
these
services,
especially
since
they're
free
and
as
much
as
we
can
mitigate
circumstances
that
might
otherwise
cause
renters
to
have
dings
on
their
credit
reports
and
just
to
have
situations
become
more
litigious
than
they
ever
need
to
be.
I
Think,
well,
we
will
do
our
part
proactively,
organizing
lunch
and
learns
as
many
as
we
need
to
it's
just
sending
out
information,
whether
it's
fires,
an
e-blast
I,
know,
Councilwoman
Johnson,
took
a
picture
of
the
side
of
the
jury
parking
garage
because
there's
a
very
big
banner
that
only
shows
all
sorts
of
marketing
things
so
I
think
they're
just
ways
to
get
the
word
out
and
I
think
you
raised
a
valid
point.
That
is.
We
want
to
stop
these
from
getting
to
the
court
system,
because
court
legal
costs
are
real
and
they
cost
all
parties.
A
C
You
I'm
just
going
to
ask
if
there
was
a
push
to
work
with
communications,
to
really
really
market
this
and
push
this
out,
and
just
thank
you
I
think
this
is
a
dynamic
solution,
so
I'm
excited
about
it.
But
is
this
an
option
for
hotels
who
are
considered
permanent
residents,
or
is
that
too
gray
for
the
city
to
handle?
Q
Yes,
I
believe
so
we
we
can
ask
them
basically,
as
if
we
can
get
the
parties
to
sit
down
and
discuss
their
issues,
I,
don't
see
any
reason
why
we
would
not
be
able
to
help
the
hotel
industry
as
well
to
in
whatever
capacity
they
are,
having
issues
with
the
tenants.
If
it's
a
communication
issue,
if
it's
of
an
issue,
what
have
you
we
will
be
able
to
do
that
and
our
mediators
will
be
able
to
assist
as
needed.
So
we
could.
Q
A
Okay,
it's
been
a
very
long
meeting.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
your
patience,
Lee
and
Fred
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
great
presentation,
the
financial
team.
We
look
forward
to
hearing
more
from
you
as
you
advance
the
conversation
around
financial
support.
I
want
to
give
one
quick
shout
out
to
our
technology
guru,
who
is
not
here
with
us
today.